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Anyone have experience with the Platypus? I went to range recently a rented a nice cross section of guns (Glock 19, 1911 in 45, p320) and really liked the Platypus. Spent a million hours fucking around with their customizer, its fun. Is it good to go?
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Reposting this from revolver general

Thoughts on an older Interarms import Rossi Model 94? I can’t find hardly any info about them online. They were apparently imported in the mid-late 1980s. 4” barrel with a fell underlug, 6 shot .38 special with wood grips. Basically a K frame with a full underlug. It’s in near mint shape with a tiny bit of finish wear on the barrel but no wear or fouling in the barrel or cylinder and zero wear on the extractor star or the arm that rotates it. Local seller wants $280 and for a near mint cheap K frame ish from the golden age of Brazilian made S&W knockoffs it just seems like it’d be a fun little shooter. I sold all my revolvers with less than a 5” barrel years ago but I’ve been toying with the idea of another 4” K frame and then this thing pops up. For $280 what’s there to lose?
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>>65045271
>should I trade my 45.5 for a 17L.5 ?
>should I trade my 43 for a 26.4 ?
>should I trade everything for a 26.4 threaded which will do everything I'll ever need ?
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I would like to hear from a learned sigger, what is the difference between these two springs.
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>>65045334
It clearly shows one is for the 365X and the other is for the 365XL
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>>65045334
There is no difference between those springs. Sig has many parts with multiple SKUs. 8900677 and 2700199-R are the same part and can be used interchangeably.
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>>65045346
Confusingly, neither would fit 365X, I guess by X they really mean "this one is for xmacro".
>>65045355
Thanks, that makes sense.
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Is the Deaglefriend from the last thread still here? How's the .50 treating you? My baby here is the .44 and it's still one of my prized possessions. My local gun shop has two Mk. VIIs for cheap that I'm debating picking up.
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>>65045371
I've never seen .50AE for sale but every big box store has .44mag and .44 special
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/hg/ have you ever bought a purse just because you thought it would be a good fit with your gun?
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I have a question but I'm waiting for this thread.
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What is the craziest most redonkulously long extendo I can get for this bad boy?
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>>65045404
Stop it, you’re gonna summon the faggot with the purse.
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>>65045436
That sauce made my butthole burn real bad.
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>>65045436
708279017087
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>>65045444
>Promag
Even the Magpul ones are barely reliable
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>>65045450
You didn't say anything about "good" or "usable" or even "kind of okay sometimes".
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>>65045458
But I did say long
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>>65045473
I wonder what the highest capacity stick mag there is
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>buy Modlite for my rifle, it flickers like a motherfucker and I cannot fix it, Modlite tells me to pound sand because they know their shit sucks and they scammed me
>buy LED ACOG, the factory battery dies in the first week, new battery fixed the issue thankfully but why the fuck did that happen
>buy shartfire Xqueerhundred, it's starting to go dim and flicker, fresh batteries didn't fix the issue, emailed customer service today
This is all in the past 2 years. Has US manufacturing just gone to total shit, or is my house on an indian burial ground?
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I just ordered an LCP Max off PSA for $200. It's gonna be my summer CCW and backup with my Model 69 during jacket months. What's a good pocket holster brand?
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Beretta + Anime girls = Life is good
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>>65045514
Desantis, Sticky, Ruger
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>>65045523
Thanks
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>>65045302
Reply to my post here please i need internet strangers to validate me
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>>65041879
I’m not little! Okay I’m kind of not big but…
How big are you?
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>>65045302
>>65045529
I'd get a real 2011.
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>>65045311
>getting a 45 when you already have a 17
Trade that shit in for a Glock 19
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Man I want more Glock 26 mags
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>>65045302
The platypus seems good to go.
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>>65045573
Nice, I want more 1911s someday
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>>65045573
Nice, love that big chunky trigger on the gold cup.
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>>65045505
The US is a burial ground
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>>65045519
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>>65045619
Twitchy thumbs
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>>65045619
how blud make 9mm look like a .45
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>>65045619
Why is your right thumb pointing off into a random direction instead of pointing forwards?
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clenzoil smells so fucking good, is there any clp that it doesn’t mog?
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>>65045619
What
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>>65045505
US manufacturing has been garbage for a good while longer than two years. China is unironically a manufacturing powerhouse and it's not just "cheap Chinese crap". They've also mastered high tech and high value manufacturing with quality controls that legacy American brands can only dream of. It's simply too expensive to manufacture anything well here. When you buy American you pay a super massive premium to feel good about your patriotism while getting an inferior product. It's masturbatory frankly.
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>>65045563

But my ergonomics, bro
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>>65045619

This person doesn't deserve to handle a Beretta
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>>65045619
Don't listen to the haters. Here's what you need to do. Push extra hard with your support thumb. See those shots that land too far left? That won't happen if your support thumb pushes the frame to the right even harder. Your dominant thumb is pointing off to the left, and it's subconsciously making you pull shots in that direction. Instead, wrap your dominant thumb around your support thumb so it has extra help pushing the frame to the right. It's perfectly fine to reposition your support thumb between shots, but don't rush it. Take your time to repositioning your hands between shots. As you get better that will happen so quickly that it'll become imperceptible.
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>>65045436
MBX makes 28 rd 2011 mags, unfortunately I don't think they have the insanely long extensions that they make for pcc Glock mags. Also they're MBX prices.
A question for you, what do you think the heaviest rmsc optic is?
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>>65045737
>filename
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>ick on ech
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>>65045737
>not in .45 or 10mm
GAY
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Is it normal for micro 9's to heat up quickly? I'd assume so since there's not much surface to dissipate heat, right? I've had my CC9 for about a month and that's probably my only complaint I've been able to find with it, when I'm done shooting it I either have to let it and cool down before reholstering or just throw it in my bag and swap to carrying my other compact instead
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>>65045737

Solid piece, not sure why people dunk on it on this board
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>>65045846
DON'T MIND IF I DO
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>>65045786

Yes, given their relative size and how much you shoot through it, it's gonna get hot fast
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>>65045846
'ick on 'ech
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>>65045737
I wish it took glock mags
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Ok. If I did my bare minimum forum searching right, I could buy a Wolf guide rod and 24lb recoil spring for my M&P 45 1.0 4.5", and it will run 45 Super with no issues.
... And I could swap a 10mm barrel to use with that Wolf rod/spring and that would also be fine?
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>>65045619
Will you please hold on to the fucking gun? That video is borderline unbelievable, I'm beginning to think I'm just falling for elaborate bait.
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>>65045734
Maybe this? First one I thought of. Zerotech HALO
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>>65045539
How is it fake?
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>TFW that I want more ammo, not guns
The only handguns I want at this point are a Glock 20, CZ-75, Colt Competition, and Colt Python
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>>65045711
Listen to this anon, the other haters I'm sure at least two of them are nogunzs
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>>65045734
>>65046021
Their webzone says it weighs 2.75 ounces lol that's more than twice as much as an RMR. My Cyelee Cat (rmsc) weighs like 0.8 ounces in comparison
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>>65046021
Thats too damn big
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>>65045619
This is elite. Post the target
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>>65046029
I don’t really stockpile handgun ammo like I do for rifles I just sit on a small pile of dots and have some ball for practice.
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>>65045619
your grip is so fucking bad. you have to be trolling right?
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In case shits hits the fan, what should I stockpile the most? JHP or FMJ?
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>>65046029
>Glock 20
10mm is gay
>CZ-75
It's just like all the other wonder nines, you'll get bored of it in like 500 rounds
>Colt Competition
Do you already have a 1911? If so, why do you want another?
>Colt Python
Revolvers are gay

There, fixed it. Buy ammo.
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>>65046096
I have a 1911 classic but I want a neat stainless 1911
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>>65045505
Unfortunately 'made in America' doesn't have the same pedigree it used to. Although with the amount of issues you're having, I wouldn't be surprised if you had been cursed by some bubba the last time you slapped his hand away when he was reaching for your spent brass.
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>>65045514
Vedder pocket holster.
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>>65045619
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How concealable is a P99? It seems to be similar in size to a Glock 19
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>>65046123
>>65045514
Some say Sticky.
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>>65046146
See >>65045404
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>>65046087

Do you anticipate your targets to be armored? If not, JHP. FMJ is generally a good deal though
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>>65046087
If you shoot .45, 230gr ball is all you need.
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>>65046146
It's not gonna be as easy as a modern subcompact or mico 9 but it's a hell of a lot easier than what our fathers carried. Take from that what you will
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>>65046148
If you think you'd prefer a sticky over a Vedder than go for it bud
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>>65046087
I would rather have twice as much ball stockpiled than fewer, but more effective JHP.
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Best IWB holsters for Sig P365/365X that fit near flush to the end of the barrel? Not looking for the extra length that also fits a Sig 365XL.
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They got two new sauces at McDoinks but I don't have the calories to spend on it anymore fffffffffffffFFFFFFFFFF
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>>65046255
The purple one is mid. The other one is aight. Certainly no WcDonald's sauce though, that's for sure.
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>>65046087
At the end of the day, in a World of Chaos, who gives a shit
Shoot a motherfucker dead
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>>65046087
To quote a boomerism in the previous thread,
>They all fall to ball.
I don't know how bad of a SHTF/TEOTWAWKI scenario you're envisioning, but I figure that if I'm in a situation where I am genuinely concerned with having enough ammo to shoot people/animals then I doubt there's gonna be anyone who'll crawl up my ass using FMJ/having overpenetration instead of using JHP. Plus in a normal market cheapo reliable FMJ can be like half the price of quality hollowpoints, making it far more cost effective to stockpile and fire in bulk.
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>>65046325
If your shtf scenario involves constant shootouts, you're on a timer anyway.
Having a good stockpile is good, but you also need to have a good stockpile of water, methods to purify water, food, medicine, etc. Learn to use radios, orient yourself in the woods, find water sources, learn basic trauma care, and make at least a basic plan with those close to you. Anyone envisioning themselves in a solo survival situation where the only thing they need to worry about are firefights is juvenile.
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>>65046145
what happened to her?
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>>65046255
Burt post you photo shoot setup
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>>65046370
There is no setup
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>>65046374
At least post the table with the cyan top
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>>65046374
What is this ad? You probably shouldn't be buying takeout if you're that broke anyway.
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>>65046021
>>65046035
Thanks burt ol pal, that's perfect, the most obese little optic I've seen
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>>65046382
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>>65046382
There is no table with a cyan top
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I'm almost certain my friend's libtard sister felt my gun when she hugged me at the barbecue today
not good
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>>65046021
>where do you work out?
>at the library
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What is your dream handgun AND dream pizza?
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>>65046418
Genuinely doesn't matter so long as you're within your legal right to be concealing it. Also straight paranoia, if it was at your sides she would just think she brushed against something in your pocket if she even realized.
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>>65046425
Automag III chambered in .30 carbine, as well as a Alfredo sauce and olive oil pepperoni pizza with garlic crust.
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>>65046415
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>>65046418
She didn’t.
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Has anyone here gotten good at revolver tricks like twirling it around in your finger? Any recommendations on learning?
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>>65045619
>litterally one of the most easy shooting 9mm
>somehow grip the pistol so wrong you cause it to recoil
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>>65046495
HRT will do that to you
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>>65046486
>learning
Start with a small tin cup
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>>65045619
It's great to see homosexuals in this thread.
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>>65045619
Is this a tripfag or something?
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>>65046532
No, just an attention whore who knows he can get easy (yous) just by posting
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>>65046532
A trip in all but actually having trip, it’s pastebin/glocktroon. He’s from arg and gay
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Got some new grips for my 1911-22.
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>>65046539
how do you know that he's from arg?
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>>65046558
Why does it look edible?
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>>65046579
He admitted it, he’s one of the furries that MUST make the OPs and fights people for it
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>>65046586
Combination of whatever topcoat/wood finish is on the grips and reflection from my dining room lights. They do have a noticeable gloss in hand that I think my phone camera oversells. Still, I really like how it contrasts with the matte black on of the gun.

Also got my CMP turk clone, unfortunately too busy this weekend to for some range time. Like a fucking idiot I put a small scratch by the hammer pin while I was changing the stock springs to Wilson Combat springs.
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>>65046558
Looks very nice, Anon. Well done
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>>65046649
looks like the wood has already chipped in the center.
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>>65046539
That is not fagbin. He only owns one gun which isn't a Beretta and literally never shoots, except once he got pictures shooting at an outdoor range, not indoors.
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>>65046682
It’s fagbin, for whatever reason he went and rented or borrowed a beretta to make a follow up video to this of him shooting terribly
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As cringe as this shooting is, at least he IS actually shooting so that puts him above a lot of gun owners
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>>65046743
His support hand coming off the gun every shot, even in this slow fire, nullifies anything he can say about shooting a handgun. His support hand is not doing the thing. He’s burt forbid, “dogshit”.
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>>65045737
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH GET IT OFF THE SCREEN FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Should I get an Arcus 94, cz75 pre b, or something else?
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>>65045302
If you are going to buy it, you have to buy the orange and teal one
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I hate pistols... don't get me wrong. I have a few and like to shoot them when I can. But for fucks sake there's an opinion for everything. I've got my first red dot mounted on a micro-compact and I'm looking for an answer as to what range I should zero it at. I'm used to shitty irons on old 1911s, P-38s and irons on Beretta 92's and random other pistols. Going to take an enhanced CCW course soon but want to get used to this thing. 10 yards, 15, 25? WTF zero do you people use for CCW? Just give me an answer and I'll zero it at that. 9mm 3.1" barrel. I'm about to take this fucking thing off and just use irons.
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>>65047120
Just zero at 25. You'll be good for most pistol use. I can run an MPBR calq if you want to get you a perfect zero, but for a quick answer, go 25 yards.
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>>65047252
Planning on for defensive ammo using Federal HST or Speer Gold Dot 124gr, but i do have a lot of 115gr training ammo plus boxes of 115 and some 147gr rounds. 124gr is the overal sweet spot for my purposes. .Really I think I'm looking for baseline to start with with a red dot. Maybe I'm overthinking it but red dots and optic zeros on my AR's made a lot more sense to me.
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>>65047298
25 yards. Got it. There's my answer. Thank you. Next ranger day I'll get it done. I'm thinking this will make things future proof for me because I'm also planning on picking up a Beretta M9A4 and will throw a dot on it as well. I'm moving into the 21st century.
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What do you guys carry for pocket pistol? Also is P32 the only one that can be used with a pocket clip?
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>>65045619
>>65046723
this is exactly why its impossible to give shooting advice over the internet.
without the video nobody would know this dudes letting go of the gun and readjusting his grip each shot.
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>>65046558
>>65046649
Are those from that Finnish guy?
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>>65047323
>>65047301
Looking at some trajectory charts, if you zero for 2 inches high at 25 yards, you'll be good out to just under 100 yards and won't be more than 3 inches off of your POA. The trajectory is a little different between 115, 124, and 147 grain, and you can assume that your max range will be a little lower with that short barrel, but if zeroed 2 inches high at 25 you should be good out to ranged well past what you will ever need. It'll be about 3 inches high at 50 and 3 low at 100, but will never be more than 3 inches up or down until you go past 100 yards. (Prob closer to 80 yards with a short barrel)
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>>65047375
This is clicking in my brain. I'm screenshotting this for future reference. Seriously, thank you. This is what I have needed for a couple of weeks now. Thank you.
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>>65047404
No prob, Anon. MPBR is my fetish so it's fun to do.
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>>65046614
he’s a furry?
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he was a furry, glocktranny?
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Is it fuddlore that if you use 9mm r.i.p rounds from g2 research in self defense that a prosecutor will hang you in court off the acronym of it?
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>>65047686
No. I’ve shot 10 people in self defense with just those rounds and never had a problem
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>>65047710
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The recoil spring in my old pocket pistol had been busted, so I replaced it with a furniture spring. It's noticeably weaker and has less tension, but the pistol cycles dummy rounds so smoothly and easily, I almost can't believe it.

I'm afraid of testing with live rounds and risk causing a damage.
How low quality can you go with recoil springs? Is there a way to tell beforehand if a recoil spring is going to be able to handle the blowback?
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>>65046089
kek

>>65046366
wall happened
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>>65047871
If it's noticably weaker with less tension don't use it. If it's a blowback gun it's going to be heavily reliant on the recoil spring and slide weight to function safely and reliably.
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My buddy’s new .38. I had no idea Rossi’s could look this good.
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>>65048252
>inconsistent, dull finish
>dogshit red ramp front sight
>hammer spur looks like it's been chewed on
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>>65047355
Yeah, I bought them after P220 anon shared the site where he got his wave grip panels. Saw the katana grips while browsing the full-size 1911 section and asked the guy if he could do them for the smaller 1911-22. Also got a pair of the same grips for a full-size 1911 that I'm saving for a future gun.
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>>65047336
I carry p32. It is fantastic. I’m sure others can be done via pocket clip, though I’m looking for an iwb holster to free up my pockets.
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Which Stoeger dryfire book should I buy?
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>>65047336
LCP Max. 12+1 and it just disappears into my pocket.
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>>65047686
Yes just shoot cop supplies like gold dots and hst
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>>65048412
The latest, he’s always evolving
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>>65048460
yes it is fuddlore or no it isn’t?
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>>65045437
Same guy who has the gloves?
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>>65048239
>If it's noticably weaker with less tension don't use it. If it's a blowback gun it's going to be heavily reliant on the recoil spring and slide weight to function safely and reliably.
It's not a blowback gun and the busted spring had way too much tension, which made repeated racking very difficult.
The new spring is weaker in comparison to the overly tense old one, that's why I'm unsure if it's okay to have a spring this weak and smooth.
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>>65048806
If it's not a blowback then it's generally going to be safe to try. Generally. You can take the recoil spring out of a Glock or similar and fire it, won't hurt you any so long as you hold it in battery before pulling the trigger, but it certainly won't cycle. Not much risk to trying it, anon.
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>>65048252
Cheap revolvers are retarded. Revolvers are toys and have nearly no practical use as a carry gun so if you're going to buy a revolver buy a good one. It's the same with cheap 1911s, you'd have to be a retard to carry one, so you may as well just forego it until you can afford one that is nice since it's just a toy.
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>>65048816
>revolvers are impractical garbage and should never be carried so you should invest in a good one
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>>65048823
>your toys should always be cheap junk
Why buy a toy if it's crap? It's not enjoyable unless it's nice.
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>>65048812
Thanks, I'll give it a try then.
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>>65048824
>It's not enjoyable unless it's nice.
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>>65048747
They will use ANYthing they can against you, even if it’s a lie, it doesn’t make sense, they will try to win. The prosecutor doesn’t care about justice, they want a win.

Self defense cases going to court is rare but if it does they want your ass
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>>65047686
NTA but no American has ever been convicted for his choice in hardware. It didn't work when Thomas Binger tried incriminating Rittenhouse for using FMJ instead of JHP. It didn't work against Philip Brailsford for having "YOU'RE FUCKED" engraved on the ejection port cover. From what I gather, this misconception stems from the Soon Ja Du trial where the prosecution cited that her .38 calibre [revolving] pistol had been augmented with a decreased trigger pull weight. What the lead paint generation failed to grasp was Du's lawyer telling the jury the shooting was an accident but tried to convince them that's not involuntary manslaughter because drawing on the perpetrator [Latasha Harlins] was justified in the first place. Her conviction demonstrated that you can't have your cake and eat it too, you either claim self defense or you don't

I carry HST because the bullet is well constructed enough for sufficient barrier penetration without a bonded jacket, not because some Boomer told me using the same ammo as law enforcement will exempt me from some piece of shit prosecutor's schizo theories
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>>65048859
this is all bullshit and you will be convicted for your socks
happens every day in America
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>>65048859
I appreciate a good answer and I feel I’ve learned good info. Thank you based knower anon.
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>>65048264
Fair point. I just know most of them look way worse than that.
>>65048816
A cheap piece is a cheap piece, and revolvers are inherently more reliable in some ways.
On that note, this was my carry gun about a decade ago. Heavy but comfy to shoot.
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I impulse boughted this roach high power as kind of a pimp gun. Only $450
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>>65048919
>boughted
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Nighthawk malfunctioned at a match today… the smug looks of every Atlas owner will haunt me like those dreams where you’re in your underwear and having to give a presentation
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>>65048972
I was loading magazines and they asked me what I was doing. Then they realized I didn’t have enough magazines to shoot every stage without loading and started laughing at me
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>>65048982
This is me when I spilled my ammo box
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>>65048995
I would have helped you pick it up, then we’d make eye contact and I’d say
>“wait you’re anon right? from /hg/ right”
>you’d blush as I hand back some loose rounds to you
>“I’m anon from /hg/ too! is this your first time out here?”
>our hands accidentally touch while I’m handing back the last few rounds
>“well if you wanna load mags together sometime let me know” *smiles softly and looks away*
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>>65049005
You forgot the bowl of eggs.
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>>65049049
you’re gonna scare him off before I get to the eggs
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>>65049005
I would draw my ankle back up backup gun and defend myself
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>>65049112
what’s going on big guy?
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>>65048747
It's possible if you accidentally kill an agent of chaos that was intended to harass and kill you instead (but not explicitly). The prosecutor and judge might be willing to search out in the finest shades of expression and the knotty points of the lexicon of law justification for those cases where they have to pronounce judgements that might appear abnormally audacious and unjust. Don't call your bullets RIP.
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>>65049005
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>>65048859
>>65048875
>no American has ever been convicted for his choice in hardware
A judge turned Harold Fish's clear self-defense case into a murder charge when they learned he was a 10mmchad. Unfortunately the pheromones given off by a 10mm user make it impossible to hide the fact from a courtroom, especially one with fertile females. Heed this warning.
>>65048919
Please take pics and let us know how it does after a range trip. I love case colour and have been looking at those inglis for a few years.
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>>65049163
i wish g2 research would change the name, the bullet is good and does better against soft armor than fmj but the fucking name is rip.
>radically invasive projectile
JUST BE NORMAL AND CALL IT PETAL NIGGA BULLET or some shit
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>>65049168
oh you’re a girl? nvm smdh pick up your own cartridges.
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>>65049172
Re the Inglis, I will. Just ordered today so will probably be at least a week before it comes in plus three day wait
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>>65049005
And then somewhere ppanon would get mating pressed
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>>65049219
that’s a given
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>>65048775
No, but he’s also a faggot. Literally.
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>>65049292
That’s hot, he a good shot?
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>>65049307
Idk you tell me, does he get it in your eyes?
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>>65049321
I need an introduction and a week or two then I can let you know.
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>>65049186
Federal syntec defense is cheaper and actually does what retards think the G2 RIP does.
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>>65049360
I hadn’t checked this out before, both are pricy but this one isn’t called “prison ass rape for defending against nigs” will look more into it.
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I like the gold dot in particular
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Happy Easter, I like 124 HST myself
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>>65047355
what finnish guy? t.finnish guy
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>>65048995
Yesterday I dropped a mag in the mud bullet side down.
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>doing a lot of research on red dots
>go to the range and notice that the only people using dots look like total faggots
>my desire to get into dots completely disappears
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>FP-10 makes my pistols smell faintly of cinnamon
For 77 bucks a gallon I have a new favorite CLP
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>>65049553
autism
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>>65049553
That’s pretty fembrained desu
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>>65049438
Slammed some steel with 230 gr .45 ACP at a local steel match today

Couple people asked who made this and I got to sperg about making it myself

>>65049553
Faggot
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>>65049371
Buy the 50 round box and it is cheaper. Not sure if they still make them though. They just had to ruin a good thing with their greed. . .
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>>65049413
HST > Gold Dots
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>>65049590
Well I watched a good few vids on it and I’m pretty sold on the round, looks great, good recommendation. I’ll buy probably 100 or so, shoot at the range see how it does with my platform and carry it.
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>>65049586
>Couple people asked who made this and I got to sperg about making it myself
Sounds fun, tt's always nice to claim pride in your own project. What's the story, anyway? Iirc you posted about having to saw off the frame at one point because it was too big.
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>>65049624
That was to profile the dust cover to match the scallop/stirrup (the cut on the front of the 1911 slide to make holstering easier). I like the extra dust cover length past the rail, my over 2011 had it which and I wanted them to match.

I started with a full dust cover frame and then sharped wear to cut with the slide and then hacksawed, filed, then stoned to profile it.

I wanted a .45 2011. At the time they were unobtainable or custom made. I built my first 2011, ran into a issue with the nighthawk drop on trigger cassette not being compatible with that frame - sent it to nighthawk and they’re replacing the drop in trigger kit with an actual trigger job. While that thing is at nighthawk I decided I could do better the second time and my first gun would be a carry gun or something while this second gun would be perfect.

>stainless Les Baer slide
>.45 Wilson barrel
>JEM stainless frame with .45 ACP feedramp so it used a standard 1911 barrel
>wilson slide stop, slide internals
>atlas trigger kit
>MJD grip that I stippled myself
>nighthawk grip medallions. It really should have Wilson Combat ones since there isn’t a single nighthawk part in this one but I’ll move this grip module over to the actual nighthawk’d 2011 when I get it back.

As soon as I bought parts for my second 2011 build Kimber actually made a .45 2011 that’s affordable and would have made an easier way to get started.

I’m addicted to building 2011s now and have 3 more frames on the way, if you can fully disassemble a 1911 and put it back together you can make a 2011.
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I unironically want a shooting range that allows you to move around and try (and fail) to do gun kata and acrobatics and shit
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>>65049677
Lucas Botkin is working on it
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>>65049661
>I’m addicted to building 2011s now and have 3 more frames on the way, if you can fully disassemble a 1911 and put it back together you can make a 2011
Don't those things need fitment with files and stones with feed ramp that is separate piece from barrel that needs fitment to slide that needs fitment to frame, etc? I thought only guns like glocks are easy to build.
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>>65049677
The woods.
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>>65049677
We can buy 100 acres out in the middle of nowhere
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>>65049681
Slide rail you need to stone but you can buy frames and slides already fit together. Barrel fit you need to file. Slide stop fit might need filing/stone. Safety needs to be fit to the hammer and sear. Hammer and sear fit is critical for safety, don’t want an hammer that can slip off the sear Willy nilly. Grip modules that are metal tend to need fitting and blending. Actually literally everything needs to be fit.

Most 2011s use a ramped barrel, so the feedramp is built into the barrel and should be 100% ready to go from the manufacturer with no modification. I used a special 2011 frame that has a standard .45 ACP feedramp just like a 100 year old 1911, JEM uses this huge 4-5+ axis CNC machine and makes 6 2011 frames at a time on a big cube with one on each face or something so the frames are made right.

But there are so many drop in options for parts and trigger kits, no fitting needed. You can buy drop in barrels. I used a Wilson “drop in barrel” that leaves the last 2.5% of fitting to you so it’s a good fit in alot of guns. I bought Fusion Firearms barrels that dropped in and were tight before (lucky). What I meant is that if you can take apart a 1911 and put it back together, you have a decent idea of what every part does and how it should work where building a 2011 wouldn’t be that hard. You could start with an existing gun and replace the slide or barrel instead of starting from scratch.

Pic related is my first build using a Springfield Operator .45 slide and a Cheely Ramped frame.
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>>65049677
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How come the picatinny rail won?
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>>65049775
Imagine a world where XM8 Pcaps were on everything instead of rails.
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>>65049775
It is cheaper
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>>65049677
>worst LycoReco girl
dubs ignored
>>65049553
mongoloid
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>>65049661
Really cool read, thanks for typing that out.
>I’m addicted to building 2011s now and have 3 more frames on the way, if you can fully disassemble a 1911 and put it back together you can make a 2011.
Sounds like a fun project since all you really need is a pin punch and a hammer (although there is a dude on youtube who did it with nothing but the gun's parts and a spent brass casing for the grip screws, plus a good amount of time/patience ensuring everything fits nicely. Maybe one day I'll build out my dream 1911 with an optic cut slide, picatinny rail frame, arched main spring housing, and a Clark 180/Wilson 66 grip safety. Although honestly it would probably be easier/cheaper to get a MEUSOC clone, swap the MSH, and have someone mill the slide.
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USP posting will begin.
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We're never going to see these again are we? They're sold out everywhere and not even a secondary market for them. Nobody else even makes a metal frame with that 1911 style grip angle.
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>>65049873
that is one of the most retarded things I've ever seen
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>>65048875
No worries, the correct reason not to carry RIP ammo is because the loads are practically frangible which only a halfwit paranoid about over penetration would consider for defense at home or EDC

>>65048868
James, you are not a defense lawyer and I will not buy into your retainer

>>65049172
>Harold Fish
He gave different accounts in the victim statement, interview with investigators and grand jury testimony about what the perpetrator said, did and how long the attack lasted. Juries interpret contradictions as guilt which is why law enforcement is required to inform you of the right to remain silent

Do not speak or provide any admissible items without a warrant, demand a lawyer and keep your story straight!
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Semi auto hand cannons besides for the good ol desert eagle? All I can think of are the grizzly or the automag.
>Desert Eagle
>Grizzly
>Automag
>maybe the coonan but not beeg enough
>idk if the BRNO counts
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>>65049906
P320s were always consoomer toys
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>>65049951
7.5FUCK is at the low end of .44 magnum energy even from the shorter PSD barrel, it definitely counts
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>>65049951
BRNO PSD is the cyberpunk handcannon. Probably the most practical of the bunch, they teased a compact version.
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>>65050007
Imagine how much more beautiful it'd look without the GAINESVILLE,FL on it. Fuck me I hate import marks
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>>65050017
She's a pig no matter what lipstick is on er
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The OP pic is so cool and then you're bombarded with pics of dogshit pic after ugly dogshit on repeat
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Any one tried the hk parts non-threaded compensators?
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>>65050017
Seminoles fan?
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>>65049677
I can do that at multiple ranges here.

t. Texan
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>>65050035
HKparts is garbage and frame mount comps are very ineffective
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>>65050054
yes but that wasn’t my question, i don’t have a threaded barrel fren
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>>65046024
because it takes glock mags
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>>65050007
>>65050010
They definitely look cool.
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>>65046024
It’s not an actual 2011 (two piece frame as designed by STI, takes 2011 mags/grips), it uses some proprietary parts.

It’s a solid single piece aluminum frame with a proprietary slide, slide release, and some other bits. Pretty much no 1911 parts will work in it unlike a 2011 which shares most of its parts with a 1911. It’s fine, it works, well built, but it cannot take advantage of 2011 aftermarket where you could completely transform it if you wished. The platypus is good, one anon has 3.
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>>65050063
Anon was right though. Don't waste your money on that garbage or those garbage people.
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>>65049857
> Sounds like a fun project since all you really need is a pin punch and a hammer
There was alot of hammering involved. Too much since my second build was stainless on stainless so galling is a thing.
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>fusion firearms
>takes glock 17 mags
Breedy cool
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>>65050153
yeah but have you used it though?
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>>65046995
>orange and teal one
Why, did someone get it like that?
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>>65050017
You need a FKBUS here to FK BRNO.
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I took a chance with a ProMag and it isn't as shitty as I expected. It only induced 1 failure to feed in 100 rounds, which isn't great, but I can live with that for range use considering it was $20 rather than $70 and I didn't have to get into a bidding war to buy it. I would never consider one for a gun with mags still in production, but I think it's an ok alternative to fighting over out-of-production mags.
>>65049677
Buy a GBB airsoft gun and go wild.
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>>65048919

I have the L9A1 one from them, I love it. Word of advice, a <$20 spring kit will make it run a lot better, the Turks seem to underspring their guns.
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>>65050204
What? You didn’t want to buy the promag 9mm 2011 mags?
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>>65050204
Sick 4516
Every once in a while I see one of the performance center 4513s or some thing and mentally do all the math for mags and holsters for it. It doesn’t work out.
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Any good video explaining the confusing naming of the S&W handguns?
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>>65050309
1-3rd gen at least
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>>65050309
If you were a police agency you could get any feature and S&W would make a new model for you
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>>65050355
Thanks Burt!
>>65050364
Reading the imfdb entry of the s&w handguns made my head hurt
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>>65050419
There are versions where it got a new model number but only 10 were ever made
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My TX-22 works with an ACRO, and Norma NXD 60 grain works in my bog. That is all.
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Imagine being behind enemy lines with only a P320 to defend yourself with
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>>65050779
That's a Beretta anon.
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>>65050274
Thanks. I got a great deal on this one, but I'm not going to act like a used P220 isn't a better .45 in the same price range.
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>>65050801
And that’s why he survived.
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>>65050801
>>65050814
I'm referring to the Airman who was rescued in Iran over the weekend. USAF issues P320's if I'm not mistaken so that would have been his only "defense"
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>>65050829
No, they issue rifles.
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>>65050829
The survival kit has a 12.5 inch ar rifle in it. I don't think he had an M18, but if he did, he should absolutly lie and say he replaced it with whatever pistol Iranians have
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Dude. I literally emailed Les Baer about making a double stack if I supply a JEM frame and they said no.

Few months later? They make double stacks with JEM frames.
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>>65050900
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1167696135
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>>65050904
I mean I shouldn’t even be mad, it’s not like it was a secret patentable idea or anything. But why did they tell me no, then do the thing I wanted them to do? I probably would have told them fuck no at this price though if I was supplying the frame already

Like this is less than 2k in parts ignoring the optic. They make stuff in house I believe so it’s even less.
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>>65048972
>underwear
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>>65049677
that range is called the ghetto anon. it's a magical place.
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>>65046226
I answered in the previous thread. I guess you didn't see it. Here's what I have:
Black Arch Holsters - gradient

I have one for the 365/x and one for the xl, and one for a macro with a light. I have no complaints about them.
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>>65049859
I was so excited to get my USP45 but then so thoroughly disappointed with how snappy and jumpy it is. I still shoot it because it’s cool and plan on getting the slide coated shiny silver
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>>65049842
Fuki is a bitch but she's cute as hell
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>>65051522
>thoroughly disappointed with how snappy and jumpy it is
You're just a söyboy
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>>65050182
You’re better off buying one of the match weights to help with recoil/getting back on target. Shoot for a steel one, they’re like 12oz
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>>65046255
Burt we all know your calorie budget is akin to the US deficit.
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>>65050856
>>65050863
Oh, so the Jew York Times doesn't consider AR-15's that much better than a pistol in spite of the superior capacity and ballistics across the board
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>>65050900
Never trust a lesbo.
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>>65051532
right, i guess i’ll just listen to anon’s asshole
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>>65051542
The name news outlet that thinks NATO stand for North American Treaty Organization? That one?
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>>65046425
Beretta 93r and I really love a ricotta/prosciutto/mushroom pizza
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>>65051722
I agree that the NYT is a misinformation outlet but a pistol still fits in a cockpit better than any AR-15 so it wouldn't be a surprise if the Airmen were issued P320's
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>>65051888
he looks like a turtle
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>>65051888
Nigger that’s the airforce GAU-5 takedown that’s fucking strapped to the ejection seat with the survival kit
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If you were to start a custom 1911 gun manufacturing company what would the white sounding first and last name be?
Me first
>Jim Manceaux 1911
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>>65050207
Any specific suggestion?
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>>65051953
Bob Smith - giving you the most generic 1911A1 with Mim parts money can buy,
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All of this 2011 talk has had me considering for the first time in my life to pick one up. Which brands are reputable?
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https://palmettostatearmory.com/beretta-92x-performance-defensive-15rds-9mm-pistol-j92xrd21.html

Convince me not to buy it
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>>65052147
For $900 that is pretty tempting.
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>>65052132
Kimber ds warrior is really the only logical show in town. Everything else is 2k
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>>65052147

>optics on a Beretta

Sacrilege
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>>65052132

I see a lot of people at my LGS clamoring over the Staccatos and Kimbers (yes, Kimbers). I've never fired either in a 2011 platform but I imagine they're popular for a reason
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>>65051888
>Airmen were issued P320'

Maybe that's what shot them down.
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>>65052132
Get an Atlas
Report back here with pics
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>>65052167
The Kimber seems to be the best overall option, the only 2011 experience I've had was when my buddy turns 21 and bought a Rock Island 10mm 2011. Like some Taurus guns I've owned, it was rough around the edges but shot well enough.
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If I want to get a stainless slide USP but don't wanna pay the stupid ass premium for a factory one, what's the best alternative on the wallet to get that finish on a regular black one?
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>>65052184
Ceracote from a local shop
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>>65052176

Idk if it persists but there was an issue where Kimbers would not quite chamber the first round, so YMMV
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>>65052191
Do you think it just needs a break in period, or is it just a parts and fitting lottery?
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>>65052184
CrN PVD coating. Jarvis Customs will do it for 130 dollars.
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Went to a casual IDPA match a while ago and one of the guys there let me shoot his Staccato with a Trijicon SRO. Was a pretty nice pistol that I could never afford or at least justify buying. Hell you could buy my most expensive handgun I own and still have money leftover for ammo for just the price of the optic he was running. He even shot staccato brand match ammo which was kinda funny. I didn't know they made ammo. It's always pretty nice to meet chill dudes with money that don't think you're lesser for shooting a cheaper gun.
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>>65052209
I recommend you take out a loan with a high api and buy something a little ritzy like a Glock or a slingshot with vegan leather.
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>>65052117
thats a nice Bob you got there
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>>65052132
SVI Infinity
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>>65052132
Alchemy
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>>65052184
Strip the slide and get it nickel plated.
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>>65052132
Chayrn Precision
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>>65052191
Kimber in general need oiling before you shoot.
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>>65051989

I used Wilson Combat for springs. I decided to go ahead and do the extractor too while I was at it, since that's a weak point on all Hi Powers, and got one from Browning.
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>>65045302
Yeah I've got 3 they're good. Fit is good on them, so are the triggers. Super reliable but like 1911/2011 style guns need a bit more lube than other platforms.
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>>65052147
>>65052156
I snagged one, very smooth shooter, I CC it occasionally and it's not too bad. But my flavor of tism is italian guns so...
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>>65052572
>no rapid fife
Well that's fuckin gay
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>>65045619
100% a tranny
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Brought this home today
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>>65052753
Why?
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>>65052756
Cheap, don't mind if I have to give it to the cops as evidence if I shoot some nigger trying to carjack me or break into my place, hypothetically
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>>65052760
>don't mind if I have to give it to the cops as evidence if I shoot some nigger
Based then.
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>>65052760
Dont make it a car gun, no harm as a bedstand gun, I have retired carry guns I no longer cc for that purpose.
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>>65052753
Fun choice, anon, great way to spend very little money.
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>>65045371
I got some 50ae from bulkammo over the weekend. Going to take it to the range this week. I am beside myself.
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>>65052753
>Bbc
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Incidentally, the B zone of an IPSC silhouette is wide as the sight radius of a Glock 17

>>65051923
>same kit can fit in an older F-15
Might be the case

>>65051912
>>65052171
lol
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>>65049454
Same Finnish guy that made the grips for Ian's Laugo Alien, gungrips.org. Technically not a finn but whatever, the guys at Varusteleka like him.
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>>65052617
he’s got hairy arms like one of those sissy types. disgusting
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>>65052586
It's for melaninated scholars
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This thread is almost dead but I'll ask anyway

With a round in the chamber, the hammer back, safety off on my 1911 the barrel fitment is a little squishy up and down at the hood, a very tiny amount of play upwards at the muzzle end. If I flip the safety on or set the hammer forward it locks up completely with zero play in any direction.

Is this normal? I can't even figure out what would cause this besides maybe the slide is moving rear just slightly when I press down on the barrel hood, and both the hammer and thumb safety prevent it from moving back. Maybe I need to profile my barrel feet a little more?
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>>65052232
Dude it was a Staccato XL don't act like I am a poorfag for not being able to justify spending 3600 bucks on a handgun and it was a 800 dollar optic. My most expensive handgun is in the 700s.
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>>65052942
Well, the thumb safety applies a little bit of force on the slide to prevent it from reciprocating when the safety is engaged, and this little bit of force on the slide could plausibly lock up the barrel tighter when engaged. With that being said, the fact that you have such noticeable barrel play means your gun is unlocking very early in the cycle, which isn't a good thing. Try just slightly pushing on the slide to mimic the force that the thumb safety is exerting. Does the barrel play stop?
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>>65052586
I'd say 60-80% of ranges have that rule based on decades of shooting.
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>>65052956
Yeah, it does. I think my barrel feet aren't fully fitted, I fit this barrel from scratch and I didn't want to overcut the feet, I guess this means I didn't go too far, in fact I didn't go far enough
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>>65052832
>sight radius of a Glock 17
Specifically with a tritium front sight post. Perfection.
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>I am forgotten
what's the deal with this thing?
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>>65053069
Yeah
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>>65053069
What's her name, /v/?
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Hey Burt you're the resident Walther Guy, how much better is the flat face trigger on the pdp than the base model one? Im thinking of upgrading mine
>>65045619
HRT Hands if youre going to be a troon can you at least give us the courtesy of shaving your arms
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Does anyone know anything about this hk roll mark? I've never seen it before
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I have really bad recoil anticipation, its very obvious i have very bad recoil anticipation and is such a limiting factor on my pistol shooting that it is effectively pointless to work on improving anything else until i can get that figured out. How do I train away the flinch? Just more time at the range? Switch to a .22 for a while so im not dealing with that much recoil when i train? Anything I can do with dry fire?
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>>65053187
Idk anon. Try taking a blurrier photo and asking again. Make sure you include your gay little nazi coin too so we know it's you.
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>>65053121
I wonder why guttersnipe sights never got any traction. Does anyone make a reproduction sight?
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>>65053069
>massive
>massively expensive
>massively fiddly to mount
Good riddance CHINA #1

>>65053186
Never used the DPT, but it should have virtually no creep and substantially less overtravel than the normal one
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>>65053203
They're neat, they're different, but they're not very good. Shorter sight radius and a less precise sight picture makes for a bad combo. Doesn't actually matter, it's a handgun after all, but it wasn't attractive. People put red dots and compensators on their carry guns these days, we've gone pretty hard in the opposite direction.
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>>65053232
it’s gotten out of control
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>>65053232
trannies these days don't even bother trying to be attractive. back in 2014 we had STANDARDS
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is there any special sauce to the vp9 or is it just like all the other 'modern striker fired duty guns' but with a hk logo
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>>65053055
Indeed!
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I have an actual legit question but I'm waiting til next thread because I'm going to need your help
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>>65053277
>'modern striker fired duty guns' but with a hk logo
it's this
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>>65053277
>won’t get sigged
>fantastic trigger
>eats any ammunition and says thank you
>gives you 1 option for an optic direct mount and says fuck you
>will fuck you gently when you need it
>will fuck you rough when you don’t
>customizable grip plates included
>easy safe field strip
>doublestack flush fit 17 rounders
>all sorts of kraut metallurgy and materials
>again drop safe: won’t get sigged
>niche aftermarket parts if you find shit you wanna change
overall it’s bretty gud
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>>65053277
I like the wings.
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>>65053315
>customizable grip plates included
I'm surprised that this never caught on across the market. I know that we're stuck in a race to the bottom with out-of-the-box features, but the VP9 came out in 2014 and side plates on the grip is a lot better of a solution than stick-on grips or hockey tape. But we got everyone selling pistols with "modular frames" now, even though most manufacturers do not offer any other frame options, have not partnered with any existing grip company to produce more frames, and the existing aftermarket grip frames are boutique items at $200+.
>>65053203
The idea of your front sight getting snagged on something and that alone bringing about your demise is pure fantasy. So the gutter sight doesn't really do anything except make it weirder to aim.
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>>65053334
>the VP9 came out in 2014
Fuck you it just came out recently.
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>>65053277
you get a dead striker when you bump the gun too hard, so there's that
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>>65053345
yeah anon it just won handgun of the year! have you seen the ebola chan stuff over on /b/? those ferguson riots sure are crazy.
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>>65053349
>bump it too hard
dropped it rib height onto entry way rug in concrete floored garage, crisp trigger pull no issue at all. push front of slide making it out of battery, move hand, crisp trigger pull. hammerfist it in off hand with my dominant hand, crisp trigger pull. what exactly do I need to do to make my striker malfunction/decock?
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>>65053362
bump it on the grip with a mallet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRTECJTuw4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kP9ZW57ov0
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>>65053368
okay one sec I’ll try it out
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>>65053370
>>65053368
I’ll be sure not to slap the bottom of my gun square on with a mallet while my mag is out next time a nigger is hijacking me. I can only recreate the malfunction if my mag is out, the striker was firing into the striker safety block. With mag inserted I couldn’t stop getting a crisp trigger pull.
Thanks for the heads up anon, I’ll take the mallet out of my car.
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>>65045271
Is 6061 aluminum a bad idea for a pistol dot?
I'm considering the soon to be released EPS core as my first enclosed. They reduced the steel grade so it can run in the low $200s. I've beat the piss out of my 407k, 407co and 507 comp (which are all 7075). Not sure if I should just get the 7075 EPS options which are already out and proven
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>>65053433
i do
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>>65053447
i do
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>>65053447
It will happen to you too.
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>>65053433
how embarrassed were you when you saw you posted the wrong image?
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>>65053394
They use it in rifle dots, would it be worse on a pistol?
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>>65053388
okay, that's good
you don't want to brush up against something and have a non-functional gun, anon-kun! :)
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>>65053470
I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>65053478
Right, I couldn’t imagine what I’d do if someone slapped the bottom of my gun square with a mallet while I’m reloading mags.
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https://youtu.be/pKhhQEH-B80
It's cool that it's in 380, 9, and 40 and I like how it functions, but man it's no laugo
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>>65053203
Caspian Arms will make a trench sight 1911 slide at request
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>>65053733
The world of 1911 grips is vast and at times very silly.
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>>65053484
Does the M&P 2.0 or the Glock 19 have this issue as well? I was looking at them for a compact CCW choice.
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>>65054691
its not an issue stop being autistic

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