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Hormone Level Information: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
Beauty Diagrams: https://web.archive.org/web/20180609105528/http://imgur.com/r/BeautyDi agrams/new
Chaser Map: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=676816
Informed Consent Providers: https://web.archive.org/web/20161219123149/https://dl.dropboxuserconte nt.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Fo rward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Cl inics.pdf
Makeup Tutorial: https://web.archive.org/web/20230516071228/https://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
MTF Info Dump: https://pastebin.com/7MMaN94p
Size charts: https://web.archive.org/web/20170108070652/http://www.americanapparel. net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens .pants https://web.archive.org/web/2015062 7085242/https://www.nationalworkwea r.com/size_conversion_chart.php
Transition timelines: https://web.archive.org/web/20170331232820/http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
Voice Training: https://pastebin.com/fG8pFyxD
Holy Mantis: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m25606MEXb1qa135ko1_250.gif
IRC Channel: irc.rizon.net #mtfg
discord hugbox: https://discord.gg/UESQpnYc
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quote of the day do u know how to sew? is there anything u have sewn recently? do u make self-made cosplay or clothes???
ruined community, lets rebuild it together
post new exciting links
after years u return and the thread is empty, all ur enemies, friends, and loved ones, gone like they never existed
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Does crochet count? I made my first woobles kit last month. I hope i do better next time.
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chat I love sewing so much like u couldn't even believe ngl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcWbh8ZEDg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhD65V2dIPc
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hey that's really cute anon! <3
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>>43254993
I like the worm. I made a depression blanket that I worked on while depressed. the colors are just whatever I had laying around.
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Thx! (it's a candy cane btw).
I'm making a dino next!
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just that
told myself I wasn't "like them" or it "wasn't for me" even as I accepted and supported trannies and learned more about hormone therapy, kept putting it off till I was about to turn 31 and it was too much to bear and I had all these potential turning points and opportunities in my past I had squandered or chosen to instead actively repress myself going all the way back to my earliest memories
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is this a good fit for a rave? not me btw
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Good evening, ladies. How has the weather been where you are? We are having a bit of a late cold spell here. The rain has been nice though.
Does anyone need help with anything?
Also, do I eat the cookies or do I eat the cookies another day?
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>>43255723
its a very tranny looking outfit but it wouldnt be out of place i suppose
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>>43256832
the gothic bad boy king himself
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>>43256852
i miss him
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janny must be jelly
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>>43256861
why couldnt nova or big toph get taken instead ;w;
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>crisis update:
>she wants me mailable assets
>this is not conducive to recovery
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>>43256915
>which nova?
Gabriel Gage, honestly id have traded any other cow for cobes. maybe not larson but ANYONE else
the jessica arc was a good one , tbdesu i miss the wand making videos. the fact he was just running a lathe in his apartment living room is just pure chad behaviour
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>>43256935
the captain of new york, who else?
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ah him
he seems pretty bad yeah
>the fact he was just running a lathe in his apartment living room is just pure chad behaviour
yeah i liked how he was comfortable with his life choices and didnt care about fitting into some case
its just sad he couldnt take care of his wand business bc of the alcohol and stuff, he had a real shot at it and had real fans
but also i remember him hating on himself about his autism and his look mostly, i was pretty sad the first time i saw him doing it, until that moment ig i thought he felt fine about himself just like about his situation
but he didnt and he hated himself sigh
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>>43256958
yeah just a sad case all around rly, didnt deserve a lot of the shit he got like the other cows. the memorial video his dad posted was sad af
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it is what it is toobz
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I believe for me hrt is just a placebo that I feel better because it feels like my life has purpose and I have a goal in life, but it could have been really anything. And thus I should look for a better life goal.
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just dedicate urself to something like science and less to things like media consumption iunno
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>>43257575
depends on the goal, everything is about relations tho, so look at the environment u prep as co-constitutive of ur mind along w/ body/brain
cutting out all extra stimuli at the start, especially stuff that reminds u of previous stuff is important, but then eventually u want to drag that change back to the context u have to live in, same sorta deal w/ addiction rehab and stuff tbqh
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Just think about.
After all is said and done:
Mono lost
Navy lost
Pedro lost
Val lost
And (almost) 40 year old butthole in Germany won. Kat won. She has a masculine, hot boyfriend.
She won. And there's nothing you can do about it.
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I finally found this harvest moon game I played asa kid. I played it on ps2 but its a ps1 game so the search got weird. I am debating whether to emulate it or just order a copy off ebay and play it how I originally did. Thoughts? God i miss this game though and finding out how much depth there is i am excited to come back to it probably a full 20 years layer c:
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mtfg is so hip and young, we have not even begun to peak
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cant have a midlife crisis if you're in perma crisis
checkmate
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just decarbed weed and hand some with peanut butter. My bf has been watching me play an rts he wanted me to and all my seemingly obvious strategic failings have been great for writing projects. My people live in opulence but we had wooden walls
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Just like me fr. I had such a solid plan. Moved out at 18 and start hrt. I would've gotten to it if my brother didnt force himself into my apartment and snoops thru my shit ans bully me for having a dildo. I repped for years, I could have had so many solid gains but thankfully my genetics are still heavily lifting me after hrt. Fuck him that was creepy of him anyways.
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>no work tomorrow
>DHC and xannies arrived today
we are winning so hard
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its been a long time coming, ive been doing so much autist wrangling lately. I think Kara and I are getting some nice food or something :)
Fake sick days are always an option :^)
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>>43258119
noo I wrangle autists at work . they are the worst
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>Fake sick days are always an option :^)
true but i want to save those for when im in UK wif elfi :3
i choose suffering for now..
>wrangle autists
sadly i have no at work autists sigh
team i manage is all offshore normies ; -;
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>in UK wif elfi :3
oh based yeah thats worth the wait then :3, if youre ever here kara and i would be down to hang out one day if you would want to , could be fun :)
>offshore normies
yehh we have a few indians and its not fun, that said attleast some of them can sort of hold a conversation which cant be said for the autists
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we will have to make sure to have the most unflattering picture taken of us together as is tradition for mtfg meetups
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>Use AI generated images to guess what I will look like after HRT hits full effect
>Last few generated images seem realistic and believable
>Probably gonna wind up looking like blaire white in good pictures of her
FFFFFFUCK
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rest forever here in our hearts
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>>43259229
please stop being gullible ai is not real and the term ""ai"" is a veneer that obscures how the technology actually works which i promise is completely divorced from anything you have pictured in your mind. those in positions of influence benefit from misleading you about it because it makes you more likely to use it/favor it if you see it as akin to a person, but in reality it is nothing like a person.
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i think the site is cool and the servers are great and that its absolutely fine and if anything its mb ig
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i mostly just wanted to vaguepost anon but alright
>ai is not real
it's not a 'mind' but it does definitely produce valuable outputs
>veneer that obscures how it works
they've been calling it that since the 50s and the pursuit of it goes back to like ancient greece. the name works and frankly the argument that it's not a form of intelligence is pedantic goalpost shifting.
>people dont get how it works
i mean sure but they dont know how their tv works or how cpus work either. and thats fine thats part of why its a cool technology it doesnt need expert level understand to make effective use of it
>positions of influence benefit from misleading you about it
>ppl are more likely to use it if they personify it
>in reality its nothing like a person
i agree completely but imo these are separate issues from whether its useful to me as a tool
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>it's not a 'mind' but it does definitely produce valuable outputs
ai stands for artifical intelligence. it is not an 'intelligence' in any of the ways that come to mind when a person hears that word.
>they've been calling it that since the 50s
i know the term is older, that does not mean it stops being a veneer or that companies don't benefit from using the misleading term.
>pedantic goalpost shifting.
not at all. studies have shown that people do not understand what llms are or how they work, and that's because they only ever hear the term 'ai' and are offered no further context. it has also been shown that, when the technology behind llms is explained to people, they are less likely to use/trust them. the terminology is truly having an impact here.
>they dont know how their tv works or how cpus work either.
no, but they also don't have a wildly misconstrued idea about how those things work, and those things don't borderline lie to them about how they work (such as by implying they have feelings or opinions). if someone has any concept of how a cpu works they know it does a bunch of math really fast and that it's all 1s and 0s, which is true. but people think llms are basically like a really smart person who looks up information for you, when it is not like that at all.
>these are separate issues from whether its useful to me as a tool
i agree that it is useful as a tool, but the anon i was replying to failed to realize that it would not be useful for the application they were attempting to use it for because they don't understand how diffusion models work and assumed the process by which these models can alter your appearance in photos would give any meaningful hint as to how transition will alter their appearance.
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>maybe it could've modeled it well.
it did not 'model' anything. it took the image you gave it as input, blurred it, added some noise, and then iteratively added detail back in order to minimize the dot product between the embedded version of its output and the embedded version of the prompt the llm gave the diffusion model (i know i am using the word model after i said it did not model anything. that is because the system that does this iterative image altering is called a diffusion model, not because a model of a transition timeline was developed for you). in other words, it just painted over your photo until it made the 'woman' neurons light up enough.
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>but people think llms are basically like a really smart person who looks up information for you, when it is not like that at all
if i ask it to find me the best product for my requirements and it goes and looks at 600 pages, testimonials, complaints, gathers product specs, presents them to me in an easily digestible table format and gives a relatively well considered recommendation based on my initial input
what meaningful difference is there between that being provided by a human personal assistant or an llm?
>the anon i was replying to failed to realize that it would not be useful for the application they were attempting to use it for
fair enough youre right on this, definitely for gpt image stuff, less so for like faceapp but its still a dirty LIAR
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>if i ask it to find me the best product for my requirements and it goes and looks at 600 pages
yes i know they can literally look things up, i mean people think it's looking things up even when they haven't enabled any web searching. and if we want to get technical, really the llm doesn't look anything up, it just says like <web>product</web> and then openai's systems append the text of the first few results to the end of its prompt.
>what meaningful difference is there between that being provided by a human personal assistant or an llm?
that a human actually looked at the products and considered which would be the best one for you, while the llm read a bunch of text and predicted what a "helpful asisstant's" recommendation would be per its system prompt. they're okay sometimes, and i don't think you'd necessarily get a terrible recommendation from it or that that's not a reasonable use case, but like... obviously a competent human could do a better job.
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>really the llm doesn't look anything up, it just says like <web>product</web> and then openai's systems append the text of the first few results to the end of its prompt
this isnt accurate tho, part of the tool calling and rag is going out to retrieve relevant info
picrel is from a research i had it do earlier
>obviously a competent human could do a better job
maybe over the course of lets say several hours to read through/collate 600 pages and i cant afford a PA
i wanna stress that i dont support the altman fart sniffing and i think we're prob on the edge of a bubble pop, and theres about a thousand ethical dilemmas attached to this
but im not gonna ignore a good tool because corpos do another decade of horseshit hype marketing, esp when its gonna shape the industry going forward and i depend on that industry for my food
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>this isnt accurate tho, part of the tool calling and rag is going out to retrieve relevant info
but the language model does not retrieve the info i'm saying, the language model outputs text. openai's systems retrieve the info per the llm's request and give the info back to it as text. as for if it does that even with web searching disabled nowadays, beats me, i don't use them that much. exactly how that kind of thing is implemented is going to vary depending on what you're using too.
>maybe over the course of lets say several hours to read through/collate 600 pages
in fairness it's not like you really need to read 600 pages to find the right product generally. usually the easiest way is to go to reddit or a discord server for whatever you're buying and someone whose special interest is that thing will tell you what you need, or to look for high quality reviews/roundups (though those can admittedly be hard to find).
>and i cant afford a PA
of course, so like i said that's not an unreasonable use of the technology.
>im not gonna ignore a good tool because corpos do another decade of horseshit hype marketing
agreed, i use them every now and then.
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>>43260412
>but the language model does not retrieve the info i'm saying
sure i'll accept that distinction, retrieval augmented generation
>in fairness it's not like you really need to read 600 pages
in the case of the pasted example i was looking for details about the next 2 years of llm hosting hardware and i do want as thorough a check as i can get so i can make an informed decision about when to blow my cash on it
i dont mean to shill here and we're mostly agreeing
i just use these daily now to make my money and its rad
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it's just like that one movie u know... the one where the actors pretended to be machines...
and now we call them the same words and it's like waow... endless possibilities ngl
they could time travel in that movie too, that's the part I'm holding out for tbqh
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>>43260865
hey that's cool but anyways do you think maybe possibly you could keep these things to yourself? or like post it somewhere else? let me assure you here that nobody is into this type of stuff or wants to hear about it from you. thank you!!!!!!!!
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>>43261005
Hey, that's awesome, but do you think you might be able to keep these things to yourself? or perhaps put it someplace else? I want to reassure you that no one is interested in or interested in hearing about this kind of nonsense. Thank you so much!
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>>43260105
ppl like you are such kek lol
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v dramatic and emotional
im glad that you shared it with us anon
>>43261686
you obsess with this image bc you know its your future pedro
wake the fuck up
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so i pray to a real lady that exists and when i do it in pure moments of dispair she contacts me
doesnt matter if its been a week a month years since weve talked
she told me not to idolize her i dont know how to rationalize this like its just 15-20 coincidences right
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good morning troons
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>>43262704
ehh i dont really get them, so not too sure sry desu . Idk maybe smoke some weed or smth or take more benzo
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i mean how much / what did you take?
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ahh okay, im probably not the person to ask then considering our dosage differences, a good high for me is 8-9mg
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>spiro 100 at morning and again at evening so that's total 200 daily
>2mg EV sublingual taken 2x in afternoon
is this hondosing or ok? no I can't get injections or patches right now so I have to work with pills only
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>>43263169
literally u
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>>43263206
porin up sum drank
popped a perc
yall salty you dont got motion like me
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>>43263228
i literally am
fuck the bosses
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>ideal dose
for me, it’s you
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It's my 1 year hrtnniversary uguuh
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his love quest is finally over :0
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if I can just get my dose right and interleave it w/ my longitudinal dosing trend so it corresponds to my moon charts and leverage my supplement stack so the tangent and the cycle coefficient align w/ the derivative of the gaussian prediction model then I will have surely found the narrow path to a perfect optimal transition ...
anything less would doom me to ending up like john50 tbqh
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it's hard when there's this obnoxious faggot who doesn't shutup but yeah i'll try to just interact with the rest. that said and maybe just maybe try shutting the fuck up since quality control seems quite difficult. or just honcope haha it's just 1 hater xDDD it away i guess. no wonder no one really likes like you and seems more like tolerance from a place of pity
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kek did you type this out twice because you thought it wasnt posting
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>>43254812
good evening girls
thoughts? i am too scared to wear a skirt in public desu but I am trying to get my confidence up!!
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>>43254812
just looked at the trans timelines link for the first time and honestly it's really beautiful :')
also I love the vibes between the late 00s and early 10s captured there too
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any tips on how to waste less e when injecting? currently using 1ml luer lock needles and dosing .1ml of EEn but i swear im losing at least half a dose worth of e in dead space for each injection
i draw the required amount from the bottle, then draw as much from the needle head as possible before switching to my injection needle and pushing the from it out, any other tips to help reduce waste?
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desensitized my bf
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is it ok to coom to tranny porn if you visualise yourself as the tranny topping the man? thats still straight right?
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chat, there are like 68 or so days until summer starts...
how much weight can I lost between now and then? how much should I lose??? afraid if I lose too much my breasts will fall off ngl
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>>43265744
Get ozempic
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Is Jane an okay name to go with? I was initially gonna go with Janet because it's Catholic and the lady from Virtua Cop 2 is named that. But if I were born a cis woman I'd undoubtedly have started calling myself Jane. It just feels like one of those stereotypical trans names. And I would be sharing a name with Jane from Breaking Bad. I don't necessarily wanna share a name with a bpd junkie.
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me when i can't go inethe womens bathroom:(
https://voca.ro/16Iy3T1F850M
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>>43266308
great name, my favorite milsim publisher
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>fishing
cool, with someone?
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So basically your dad didnt love you and now you want attention from men so you became a tranny?
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>>43268903
It's ok to do that! It's also ok to be gay! You see I am larping as a female, and you are larping as straight. We are not that different. Well, except you're a faggot, which has nothing to do with being gay like you are, but yeah in addition to being gay you're a huge faggot too which is not good!
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I keep alternating from feeling normal and feeling like the biggest faggot to ever have lived
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Literally me
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it's cos it's so hot rn
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I don't really have an appetite tho
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possibly yeh
I lost 4lbs already but that was probs just cos of salty food last week
I think I can lose 20lbs pretty quickly but then have to keep it off iunno...
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was going to comment yesterday but the connection here was being fucky; I looked at the transition timelines for the first time and I honestly felt they were really sweet and uplifting :')
today I want to ask, what the hell is meta attraction? I keep seeing that phrase used on this board and I still haven't figured out what it really means
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>5 years was a few months ago
cos fat ngl...
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yeh it was a most positive and productive time to transition
meta attraction is like the idea where a girl is attracted to and dates men just cos it internally validates her ideal of being a woman, rather than cos she is actually attracted to them
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imagine if women's rights were revoked and as soon as you begin transitioning a man can claim you, make you a housewife, and you have little to no say in regard to anything. All the while, he (and everybody you encounter) will mock you for having CHOSEN this life of feminine subservience . At least AFAB's were merely dealt a bad roll. Imagine if he had children and now you're expected to be their step-mother.
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>>43275507
Haha, that's funny. We both know women aren't allowed to own property. You are property. You don't work anymore and if you play nice I'll give you an allowance to buy cute outfits and get your hair and nails done.
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can I still ride my motorcycle sir?
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new weight loss plan tbqh
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