>Ἥφαιστος Ἴδης λαμπρὸν ἐκπέμπων σέλας
what's he cooking?

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Wonder what the threadly category will be

>>25064869
ohhhhh so it's 69 in this case I thought it referred to the thread's OP? rolling anyway

I only study latin, but to me ancient greek seems to have a more beautiful sonority; what do you think

Caecilius est in horto

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>>25065006
>Epistola Christoferi Colom de insulis nuper repertis
>incole utriusque sexus nudi semper incedunt, quemadmodum eduntur in lucem, præter aliquas feminas, que folio frondeve aliqua aut bombicino velo pudenda operiunt, quod ipse sibi ad id negocii parant
oh god the images that flashed in my mind...

>>25065158
Atque Anonymus EST in IVchano

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>>25065096
I might be biased but....yes, especially in the right mouth

How much can I learn by just reading original texts alongside their translations while skipping grammar lessons completely?

>>25065096
I speak Latin to the Gods, Greek to philosophers, Oscan to the people, and Etruscan to my horse.

>>25065596
with willpower and time everything's possible but you'll probably burn out quickly, this kind of thing I guess can realistically work for very similar languages e.g Italian learning Spanish

>>25065596
Try learning Italian with Dante and Petrarch first.

>>25064869
rolling

>>25065522
would you say that there's something sweet about it? or do others think so as well? So it seems to me, although I have no clue why

>>25065596
Sisiphus's task! haha

>>25065606
lol

>>25064869
Roll

>>25065006
That’s not what I intended when I made the images; but I can see how saying “OP” would be taken as the thread OP. Kind of retarded of me in hindsight.

>>25065164
I’ve read the letter before specifically because of making these tables lol

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Descartes ended up being shockingly readable. I think one thing post-classical Latin has going for it, as a second language for everyone using it, is that no one tries to flex by using obscure words, so it makes really advanced philosophy surprisingly accessible even if you can otherwise only read the easiest prose like the gospels.

English has this weird disease, originating from poor grammar education, where we intentionally utilize jargon to make our work less readable, to come off more impressive.

Which ascends to yet higher planes of absurdity when the illiterati, unskilled in their craft, include basic semantic errors in their purposely poor prose.

So you get ESL foreign attorneys writing gibberish that no one can read, and that the attorney hopes no one bothers to read anyways. On top of this, their writing still typically outstrips the average native lawyer.

Basically it means the lawyers all write like jargon-bots and the academics all write in a mix of jargon and platitudes, because none of them can write anyways.

I think I am years off from having enough of a grasp on grammar to really be able to consistently express my thoughts eloquently, but Latin has helped somewhat.

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>>25065987
idk maybe it's the pitch accent, when done properly

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>>25065158
ὁ Καικίλιός ἐστιν ἐν τῷ κήπῳ

>>25065596
Not much if the translation is from Loeb’s and antiquated as fuck. Check out this sentence from Daphnis and Chloe for instance as taken by Sir George Thornley.

“Mytilene estin politeia Kai megales Kai Kalle.”

“ Mitylene is a City in Lesbos, and by ancient Titles of honour, it is the Great, and Fair Mitylene.”

>>25065596
Loeb’s shills always say Loeb’s is perfect for learning Greek because they use literal translations so imagine my horror when the translation is some public domain crap from 1600 equivalent to Longus what Alexander Pope was to the Iliad. In retrospect I think I should’ve just read the penguin classics edition.

>Polis esti tes Lesbou Mytilene megale Kai kale.

Here. I got home and this is the exact sentence as written down which has been rendered thus by Thornely. How is this not embarrassing to Loeb’s shills???? That’s like using Pope’s Iliad or Jowett’s Homer. Loeb’s is supposed to be the perfect teaching apparatus for newbies…

Whelock's book quality is so low I cant read it, I'll try the epub version and if the formatation is not too messed up I'll continue, but in the case it sucks is there a similar book but with a proper digital format?

>>25066945
labora piger

>>25066874
My hope is eventually to just use Latin-Greek texts to dodge this entirely.

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>>25066945
huh?

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>>25066982
It sucks right? its not worth to make a philologist work this early, but idk maybe in a smaller screen it may look okayish
The epub version seems quite good contrary to my expectation