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First for AI!
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>>23734496
Third for kill yourself.
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>>23734496
>AI is a showafag
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>>23734528
>>23734496
>showafag
You aren't, you just post AI because you hate toku
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>>23734496
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Why doesn't the Lord 3 figure have a pattern on his forehead? They managed to put the patterns on every other Zeztz figure in this line why not this one?
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>>23734528
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>>23734541
The OP is also A.I. "art" if you haven't noticed.
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Demon King Zeztz
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>>23734612
>Orderm is Zeztz Atrocious
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do you?
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HENSHIM
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https://twitter.com/GaidenKarun/status/2017750737271590947
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>>23734496
No one wants your slop, Aruto.
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https://x.com/eitoku8109/status/2018297454496764269
>Please treat me kindly.
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>>23734680
>Jujutsu Kaisen
>One Punch Man
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https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10451404240
Color's post on Revice.
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>SEVEN, YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME
>THE TRUE WORLD IS A HELLSCAPE HIDDEN BEYOND THE REAL WORLD
>CODE IS LYING TO US ABOUT THE UNMOORED WORLD, THEY DON'T WANT US INVESTIGATING IT BECAUSE REASONS
>THAT IS WHY THE METEOR NIGHTMARE MUST CRASH INTO EARTH, BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO EXPOSE THE TRUE WORLD BENEATH REALITY.
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The midseason upgrade items of Reiwa.
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>>23734692
Metal Cluster Hopper is still my favorite
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https://files.catbox.moe/8t0q5m.mp4
The Capsems.
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>>23734692
ye they all mid alright
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https://twitter.com/chinen_hidekazu/status/2018261169895858610
Potato Magazine Umasho.
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https://twitter.com/GaidenKarun/status/2017643460875194867
Episode 18 preview.
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https://twitter.com/potato_magazine/status/2017885639312613714
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>>23734708
Shut the fuck up, Geats/Gavvnigger.
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https://twitter.com/orehako_ntv/status/2015892507830403581
Shoji Kohei.
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>>23734692
Primitive dragon is the best jingle ever
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>tfw someone interrupts you while you're saying cryptic shit to yourself
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>>23734772
He's so fucking handsome guys
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>>23734828
He cute in a old man way
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https://twitter.com/tojima_rider/status/2018338630498930704
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https://twitter.com/fayra_aileena/status/2017876825620332564
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>>23735036
Gwine
Grape
Gummy
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>>23735028
Momotaros pls
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>>23734828
The fact that he goes on cryptic rants even when nobody's listening is laughable, this guy is such a fucking clown.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaHWnmXoaEk
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https://twitter.com/punchdrunk_ntv/status/2017795038382854399
Yuna Hoshino.
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Considering that we were shown that the Erase Capsem can erase memories what are the odds that Nox/Kensei is double agent working with Zero to infiltrate The Lady's group by modifying and erasing is own memory to do so
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https://twitter.com/tvo_mayodora/status/2015333822137770366
Naito.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNSJiMhRUEQ
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>>23735119
Can she get chubby again so she looks good in a diaper ?
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https://twitter.com/felonyrose__n/status/2017891604863033516
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https://twitter.com/kuuga25th_ten/status/2016708620747158003
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>>23735141
It would be the only way to make Nox's actions remotely justifiable. But how would he recall his true mission? By watching the recordings in Zero's memory unit? Or would Zero be banking on Baku's actions awakening Nox's lost memories?

Also, the existence of the Shadow Nightmare does imply that Nox is genuinely upset over some of CODE's shady secrets, so would him and Zero be part of a splinter faction that's fighting against CODE's darker side?
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Just finished episode 46 of Faiz and I gotta ask, why the fuck did the old man choose Kiba as his successor? What's his idea?
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>>23734690
>HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUN ROOF!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAXVJletQtk
Sato Ryuga.
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https://twitter.com/nhk_hamatta/status/2015028361932968290
NHK Hoshino.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL1w2JFYVn0
Nox calling Honoka Yahagi.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbSJqJKioCg
Part 5.
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>just finished DQ2 HD a week ago
>tomorrow DQ7 remake come out
>just watched the new episode
>it's one big DQ reference
Incredibly based. Glad I didn't get spoiled on it.
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Why is Takahashi so shit at secondary Riders? Brave is such a nonentity that you could probably take him out of the show entirely and lose nothing. Vulcan was pretty good before they completely torpedoed his character. Tycoon is a cuck. Now Nox is a clown.
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>>23735317
It's just his quirk, like how Omori couldn't produce a show without inserting fetishes into it. Takahashi's signature is writing increasingly garbage secondaries.
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I accidentally got my dad into Kamen Rider while watching the OG series on Tubi.
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Can they remake the OOO 10th movie with a complete rewrite?
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>>23735433
The 15th movie will involve time travel again.
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>>23735433
better to pretend it didn't happen
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Been awhile since we've seen TV Series Shocker, wonder what those rascals are up to.
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>>23735437
Only worth it if we get a mythical creatures combo
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>>23735469
Probably lounging in a cave somewhere, polling on a new prefix for their next revival. NovaShocker is proving hard to top.
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>>23735375
How would you personally improve Nox's character?
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>>23735518
Reveal he's a false opposition. He's hamming up because he's a CODE informant who's trying to avoid suspicion while he collects classified info and combat data
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>>23735518
Actually give him personality and not 'deep quotes that's really just shallow one liners'
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>>23735518
Give him an actual personality and more of a relationship with Baku. Seriously, him and Baku might have the most distant and tenuous relationship of any Primary and Secondary ever, it's been 20 episodes and they're still just acquaintances at best, all because Nox still refuses to drop his "mysterious" façade even once despite having accumulated so much screentime at this point.
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>>23735600
Or don't make Nox the Secondary, his type of character doesn't work when it's the second most prominent Rider in the show. When a character like this shows up and does their mysterious schtick too often, it just becomes annoying.
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>>23735518
Like a rewrite? Make him madder and more confrontational, he should be personally offended that Baku's willing to blindly obey CODE. Less vague bullshit, more calling Baku a leashed puppy, get them emotionally entangled.

Going forward from where we are? Tell us more about the missions za radee is giving him, so that we can have scenes of Nox engaging in unrelated tasks or making his mission more complicated than it needed to be. Like, show up to his cop friend and give him a lead to track down, or sabotaging the Nightmare. Nox is actually in a good place for his character, a scheming vague poster needs other plans to scheme around and the lords and lady are finally giving him a framework to scheme around. They just need to properly tease him carrying out his own agenda.
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>>23735518
Make him gay
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https://news.mynavi.jp/article/20260203-4073522/
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>>23735518
make him speak all his limes in full English and give out no subtitles so the Japanese viewers can experience a real mysterious character
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>>23735698
>speak all his limes in full English
But can he hold all his limes?
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>>23735786
No one can hold all those limes there's just too many
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>>23735518
Maybe just not make the secondary Rider the main enemy for half the show? I feel like the Nox shit was all resolved in Booster's debut, but he just went back to status quo. Also constantly saying "CODE's darkness" while also willingly endangering several lives really makes the character very incompetent, it's no wonder Zero abandoned him because he really sucks at doing anything.
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>>23735247
>Honoka Yahagi
Is she arguably OOO's most successful actor? She seems to be getting steady careers more than the main characters even.
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Fuwa (dead?)
Rintaro
Daiji (alt schizophrenic)
Keiwa (cuck chair)
Rinne (secondary rider skin walker)
Hanto (/ourjobber/)
Nox (groomer)
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>>23735809
Rintaro should be Chad because he gets the girl.
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https://x.com/t_features/status/2018580240491237639
Pass, Nox Knight when?
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whats your favorite "toku fight scene area" that isnt used all the time but is used just enough
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>>23735815
I like that one location under a bridge with the rocks and river. Also that white tiled dock area with the building and flipping cube mirror things (which got demolished a couple years ago.)
That aquaduct place was cool whenever they used it, but IIRC they don't allow filming down there anymore.
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https://twitter.com/rider_sentai48G/status/2018527853890179273
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>>23735815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap4qFbP0X9Y
The smaller warehouse that they don't set off explosions in.
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>>23735518
Just have him actually do stuff. Zeztz is such a weird fucking show with how nobody actually does anything except Baku. That's understandable to a degree with the way the dream world works, but you've got Nem and Nox right there.
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>>23734651
He's so fuckin adorable
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>>23734692
Blizzard Sorbet is criminally underrated, man. Everyone always glazes Caking, but Blizzard Sorbet fucks.
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So I haven't watched a new kamen rider series since Gaim ended (and I skipped Wizard). Have I missed anything particularly spectacular?
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>>23735867
Blizzard Sorbet had great sounds
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>>23735867
I prefer Blizzard's design, but it really sucks that it tends to job, especially compared to Caking
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>>23735871
Drive = Great
Ghost = Mediocre
Ex-Aid = Great
Build = Really Great
Zi-O = Fine
Zero-One = Great
Saber = Mediocre to Great
Revice = Terrible
Geats = Great
Gotchard = Mediocre
Gavv = Great
Zeztz = Fine
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would you still like it if the Shin Kamen Rider design was this?
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Plapping Nem.
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>>23735899
no
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>>23735899
Kinda Battaman-esque. Feels more like a tertiary rider then a main.
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>>23735877
>revice worse than ghost
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https://bandaicandy.hateblo.jp/entry/20260203_rider
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Plapping Nasuka.
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>>23735871
Drive, Build and Saber are the three best shows.
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>>23735899
I prefer the one we got but I wouldn't mind a standalone Kamen Rider movie where the protagonist looks like this
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>>23735871
Personally speaking I thought Build was amazing, Ex-Aid and Gavv were also amazing for me but they have some retardery, Drive and Saber have pretty bad first quarters but otherwise they're pretty great seasons so I'd recommend them as long as you don't mind having to stomach a bad start
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>>23735941
I look at the whole "snack food" theme of Gavv and I leaves me with cold feet to watch it.

I had the same feelings towards Gaim with its fruits and nuts themes, but Gavv feels like it's pushing it.
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>>23735944
It's a show where every Kamen Rider has to undergo surgery to fight drug dealers that eat humans, it's pretty hardcore by modern Kamen Rider standards surprisingly
Problem with Gavv is that the villains are extremely retarded, honestly some of if not the most retarded in the franchise, the show also unnecessarily bullies the secondary a lot by not giving many meaningful wins, but otherwise the show is pretty entertaining from start up to the penultimate episode due to hero cast being really likeable and the action being consistently solid
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>>23735871
Ex-Aid and Build are probably your safest bets, also if you ever want to watch an anime and are a fan of W there's Fuuto PI which is a pretty great sequel to W made by the same creative staff
IMO out of 10
>Drive: 8
>Ghost: 3
>Ex-Aid: 9
>Build: 9
>Zi-O: 6
>Zero-One: 6
>Saber: 8
>Revice: 3
>Fuuto PI: 9
>Black Sun: 4
>Geats: 7
>Shin Kamen Rider TV Edit: 8
>Gotchard: 5
>Gavv: 9
So far Zeztz is a 7 for me, it excels in direction since it has one of the best directors in the franchise heading it and a good pool of secondary directors, but other than that it doesn't excels in anything else so far but there isn't anything I find outright offensive
Tojima Wants to Be a Kamen Rider is so far an 8 for me but it doesn't feel like Kamen Rider at all, I recommend it if you enjoy stuff like Baki, Air Master or Kengan Ashura, if you aren't then I wouldn't recommend it
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>gotchardfag and geatsfag seething in 3...2...1
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>>23735877
>>23735952
I gotta ask, what's so bad about Revice to get such a low score?
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>>23735968
It absolutely falls apart by the end, like the production itself was jinxed.
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>>23735970
Like Kabuto did?
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>>23735973
Kabuto was still entertaining and good when it became a mess. Revice wasn't.
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>>23735968
Revice starts fine, but basically goes out of its way to undo or retcon all early set up of the series for worse things later on. It's just inconpetency, but almost feels malicious (like two of three most popular characters of the show getting sidelined into the background in a failed attempt to push others as relevant, and the one that gets focus almost feels like it's deliberately trying to make him unlikeable).
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>>23735968
After episode 18 the show is mostly aside from 2 episodes, the action, writing and direction becomes significantly worse and it in retrospects ruins the few likeable thing of the first half by retconing some of it

>>23735973
Not really, since Kabuto at least had good action and likeable characters up to the very end, and at least you could blame some stuff like Dark Kabuto and the lack of screen time of Drake and Hiyori on production issues behind the scenes, with Revice's case most of the problems stem from the writer being given more freedom after episode 14 and deciding to retcon ideas established by the director and producer, the writer is just that bad
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>>23735975
>and the one that gets focus almost feels like it's deliberately trying to make him unlikeable
I don't think the writer was trying to do that and it just stems from him being legitimately bad at writing
I still can't believe that Revice's producer decided to hire him again immediately after for a stage show, and the stage show was so controversially bad that the producer was demoted even further
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>>23735975
>Sakura is constantly using Lovekov as a kickboard or abusing her in combat
>Demands Ikki or vice protect her since she doesn't want to.
>"LOVEKOV IM TRYING TO PROTECT YOU"

Why did no red flags go up at toei when the guy they hired tried forcing a female MC named after a character from one of his from novels?
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>>23735986
By that point Mochizuki had already formally hired him as head writer and come up with some ideas together, and not every producer has the balls to fire the writer halfway through to replace him for a better one like Hikasa did with Blade or the ability to force the head writer to hire less while micromanaging episode writers so that the show still feels concise like Tsukada did with Magiranger
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>>23735518
Write a two-parter that focuses on him without Baku.
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>>23735975
>Revice starts fine,
It doesn't, it was bad from ep 1.
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Zeztz will probably end up being Takahashi's worst Rider to date. We're almost halfway through the series and it feels like NOTHING has happened. The plot has gone basically nowhere and the only character who's gotten anything resembling development has been Baku and even then it's moving at a glacial pace. Takahashi's problems with supporting cast are more glaring than ever here. Most of the characters who aren't Riders/agents/Nem are absolutely pointless and have contributed almost nothing to the overall story.
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>>23736054
She's too powerful...
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>>23736055
It can still pay off (quality-wise, not talking about mainstream success) if the planned switch to serial storytelling goes smoothly. It does feel like some of its best moments were in these last few episodes.
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she's so ugly bros...........
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>>23736055
Nothing in Zeztz has been as bad as most of of Zero-One.
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>>23736096
Yet.
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>>23735952
>>23735877
saber is still bad.
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>>23736055
>Nem
Just a reminder that she's somehow this mega celebrity that everyone knows and loves and has been missing for years but her agency covers up her disappearance by acting like she's still around and no one's looking for her aside from Baku. Nem's character might be dumbest things Takahashi's come up with.
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>>23736096
Zero-One's first quarter was great. It was just everything after Gai's introduction where it started to slide and then the coof absolutely fucked the final stretch.
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>>23736127
I’m sure the police had an investigation for a year or 2, but just like the Black Cases, they found nothing conclusive. So now 4 years in, they aren’t going to burn the money on her.
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>>23736163
And yet her talent agency has kept her disappearance a secret despite Nem being such a well known celebrity that everybody has dreams of her. This doesn't even pass the smell test.
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>>23736096
And nothing has been as good either. A roller coaster quality is better than a steadily dull like Zeztz
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>>23736167
The show's already established that memory tampering and brainwashing is a thing. It's not much of a stretch to assume that The Lady's involved in making sure no one with any pull questions Nem's disappearance.
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>>23736168
Even during the tournament arc I found the firefighter episodes to be great
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>>23736127
You have people in real life simping for instagram models that are entirely AI generated and this is the part that bothers you?
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>>23736230
Honestly I don't mind people screeching at AI, it's the first sign I can pretend to be nice to them but intentionally not invite them to anything and avoid them like the plague because the people whose entire existence is to virtue signal that AI is super mega evil and you're worse than Hitler for not shitting yourself in anger when seeing it are the most insufferable fucks ever.

Yes I find them worse than the AI / Cryptobros that treat the most generic garbage prompted from AI or floaty weightless animation as "omg good enough to replace the entire CGI / animation industry". The latter is retarded, the former is insufferable, miserable, hypocritical AND retarded.
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>doesn't answer Anon's question, just spergs out
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>>23736096
Within the same episode range, nothing about Zeztz is as good as Zero One, and the worst of Zero One still easily beats most of Zeztz's best (I will give you the lightning scene because the OST track was a banger, the episode itself, not so much. Literally named his fear out of nowhere and conquered it without any build up makes the whole thing hollow)
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https://twitter.com/T_HEROnight_GW/status/2018602956493611407
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The Lady got me finna act up tho
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>>23736111
Saber's worst is better than Revice's best
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The actress who played Kohana is now two years older than Hana's actress was during Den-O.
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>>23736317
And she’s fucking a black guy
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>>23736111
Still better than Gavv, Geats and Zeztz.
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Stop replying to yourself
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>>23736163
>I’m sure the police had an investigation for a year or 2
They didn't, the wife of Nem's adoptive dad (who should be in prison alongside whoever runs the hospital they put her in, honestly) suggested calling the police but he refused and said they should investigate the matter privately, all because he didn't want to worry Nem's fans but also and more importantly because he didn't want to face the truth. Fujimi and Nasuka only learned she went missing because of Baku, but it's unclear if they've informed the rest of the police department because Nem's disappearance doesn't seem to be public knowledge even now.
>>23736174
The Lady's mental suggestion doesn't last forever, the nurse she used it on eventually remembered what happened but kept quiet because she didn't want to be framed as complicit in Nem's kidnapping.

So it's all just a bunch of contrivances put on top of each other so that the job of finding Nem falls solely on our very small group of heroes.
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>>23736475
This is how I know I'm making you butthurt, shitposter.
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>>23736277
>the worst of Zero One still easily beats most of Zeztz's best
No, the Job arc, its expansion and all the bullshit that went down afterwards outside of the fights are definitely not better than Zeztz.
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>>23736168
The problem is that it wasn't a roller coaster, mostly descending with a couple of highlights. By this point, we already had Thouser attacking Zero-One in broad day light several times and no one reacting to it. And they only remembered to make Thouser buy the police at the end of the job arc, months later (I actually wonder if this wasn't influenced by online complaints in the first place).
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>>23735809
>/ourjobber/
That's Hikawa, not the loser who went as far as sacrificing his humanity only to kiss the pavement all show long.
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>>23736277
>Within the same episode range
Dude within this episode range was the job arc and yes that was much worse. The writing sucks in both shows but at least Zeztz is kinda slowly moving towards revelations but Zero-One came to a complete halt for a boring as fuck dick measuring contest with nothing happening. That whole arc was about character assassinating everyone.
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Top this triple rider kick I dare you. There goes one of the best Orphnoch designs, but the King promises to be another great one with the grasshopper motif that resembles the first Kamen Riders. Also I feel that even if Kiba is going through his Orphnoch boss phase I feel he's gonna turn back into a good guy by the end
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>>23736547
>but the King promises to be another great one with the grasshopper motif that resembles the first Kamen Riders
It also resembles the 555 Riders, if you haven't noticed yet.
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>>23736550
Oh right, it does have the eyes likes the visors of the trio.
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>>23736552
It also has lines running across its body, and a belt.
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>>23736447
Gavv, Geats, and Zeztz are actually good and miles better than crap like saber. saber is still and will forever remain bad.
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>>23736587
>Geats
>actually good and miles better than crap like saber
Unironically neck yourself
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>>23736598
Why are you replying to him? I thought the motto is to ignore shitposters instead of giving then attention.
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>Kaido being based and fighting with Mihara to kill the Riotroopers (which I thought would've been a thing earlier but no, and then they get bodied by Axel Form)
>the revelation of the Orphnochs being terminally ill
>the entire Kaixa belt thing

You'd think the old man would know this and not be stupid enough to let his precious children use it to transform, yet it has 3 or 4 confirmed deaths from its use, and it strained Kusaka so bad it almost killed him neck snapping aside, which I celebrated like a goal from the midfield. And then the old man named Kiba as his successor who seems hellbent on going full Orphnoch, I think the dust cancer made him senile too.
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>>23736604
Because >>23736598 is a shitposter.
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>>23735518
I don't think Nox can be salvaged at this point. He attempted omnicide. He tried to kill every single human being on Earth with that meteorite/moon, all because CODE was mean to him. There's absolutely no valid justification for this.
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>>23736587
Reminder that this anon thinks Ghost is good.
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>>23736622
>He attempted omnicide.
Counterpoint, Gai and Nadge-Sparrow.
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>>23736627
Ghost is just as bad as saber.
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>>23736627
Reminder that this anon thinks Zero-One's job arc is good.
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>>23736628
Also terrible characters, but at least they aren't the Secondary.
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>>23736631
>>23736634
Nice samefag, nigger, but you already confirmed you like Ghost and you probably like Zero-One too given you like trash like Geats.
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>>23736622
He stepped aside during that battle though.
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>>23736642
He got shitstomped so he just gave up and let Baku fall into a coma for being "stubborn".
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>>23736639
Nice job telling on yourself. I never brought up Ghost nor said anything about liking it, but you did. So you are the one who likes Ghost.
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>>23736644
>He got shitstomped
He was still standing just fine. We've seen in episodes after that one that he'd act against Nightmares doing stuff against his goals. In that case, he just stepped aside and let Baku go at it, but at this point I'd say that's definitely part of his pattern.
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>>23736639
Says the person who likes Revice.
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>>23736646
>I never brought up Ghost nor said anything about liking it
You did in a previous thread, the archived evidence is there. Maybe don't be retarded enough to make your genuine posts and your shitposts under the same IP, you retarded-ass shitposter. Now fuck off or kys out of shame, Ghostfaggot.
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>>23736083
Am I supposed to know who this is?
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>>23736655
I've never done any such thing.
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>>23735877
>Zero-One = Great
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Zeztz is way too invested into its mystery box

By now we really should have a clearer idea of what the antagonists want, even if eventually that gets revealed as just a piece in the greater scheme of things
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>>23736663
We don't really even know who the villains are yet either
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>>23736663
I think we might finally learn some stuff this week with the army of nightmares and that giant butterfly? Then again, it also looked like we'd learn stuff before and then we didn't.
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>>23736663
>Zeztz is way too invested into its mystery box
It really isn't that but rather that it's a show that wants to be a police drama being done by a writer that doesn't know how to do police drama, the story not progressing would be fine if the cotw were better and Nox had more characterization in spite of his mystery
Was Mountain Doctor by Takahashi also this bad?
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>>23736650
>He was still standing just fine
He gave up, Gravity was kicking his shit in and since he couldn't stop Baku he went all "fine, suffer the consequences of your own actions" before Baku went up there and got sucked into the black hole he used to destroy the Nightmare, which landed him in the same kind of coma Nox was in. If Nox really didn't want the meteors to hit, he wouldn't have repeatedly told Baku to retire, wouldn't have destroyed the one Capsem Baku planned to use to stop the meteor strikes, wouldn't have left him with zero Capsems to transform with, and wouldn't have arrived to cockblock Baku right when he showed up to stop the big meteor strike.
>We've seen in episodes after that one that he'd act against Nightmares doing stuff against his goals
The only two times he fought a Nightmare were against the Shadow Nightmare that was keeping him in a coma and the Wolf Nightmare that had already served its purpose as a distraction and held Nem, a valuable asset for Nox and The Lady, captive. He didn't do shit against any of the other Nightmares that did stuff like blowing buildings up or attempted murder, in fact, he tends to show up just to cockblock Baku so that the Nightmares can keep doing their thing.

This is the same guy that was egging Nem's dad on to commit suicide and nearly got Kureha killed after making her relive her traumas. He might not be completely evil, but he's still a terrible person.
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>>23736652
>>23736660
Stop samefagging, Reviceshitter.
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>>23735911
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>>23736682
You're the one who likes revice. You've admitted it several times.
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>>23736656
The best Tertiary of Reiwa.
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>>23736689
But that's a woman.
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>>23736688
Stop projecting, Ghostnigger. You're just making Gavv and Geats look worse with your unrepentant shit taste.
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>>23736692
I've never even come close to praising ghost, meanwhile you have constantly defended both revice and kinoshita.
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>>23736695
Stop projecting, you're not fooling anyone, Ghost/Revice/Geats/Gavv/Zeztzshitter. Just kill yourself already so you don't have to live with the shame that everyone here knows about your shit taste thanks to a retarded slip up:
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23598350/#23601571
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>>23736700
That's not me, that's most likely you.
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>>23736702
Every time you shitpost, I will come and remind anyone you're pestering about this, so we can point and laugh at you over your severe shit taste. You have no right to shit on people's tastes when yours is far worse.
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>>23736706
Again, that's not me. For how quickly you have that at the ready that's most likely you.
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>>23736712
Say whatever you want, at least I sleep well knowing I'm not a fan of bottom tier characters that nobody likes such as Suel, Magen and the Gammaizers.
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23598350/#23601261
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>>23736717
Wow, you must really like ghost to remember character names.
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Jesus christ talk about the show rather than shitposters, I have to assume "you two" are actually just one guy fellating himself
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>>23736722
No, it just one shitposter who assumes everyone that has a different opinion than her is the same person.
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>>23736720
How do you know I mentioned Ghost character names? Oh right, I triggered you by shitting on your favorites lmao.
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>>23736724
You didn't even deny the samefag accusations in this very thread, miss.
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>>23736726
Because you like Ghost, that's how.
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>>23736731
Suuure, Ghostfag.
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>>23736733
Why are you talking about yourself?
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>>23736734
Your monitor's turned off, bro.
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>>23736736
My monitor is fine, unlike you.
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>>23736739
Keep coping, nuMaurice.
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>>23736741
Seek help.
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>>23736743
Tell that to yourself, you're the one who's been shitposting here non-stop for nearly a decade now.
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>>23736745
Why do you keep talking about yourself?
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>>23736748
I already told you your monitor's turned off, and it seems like it still is.
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>the time gap between posts
You really just are a schizo pretending to be two people having a petty conversation to hit bump limit huh
What a pathetic faggot
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>>23736753
If you see posts disappear you will know that's not the case because why the fuck would I report myself?
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>>23736753
>>23736756
>>the time gap between posts
Also, how does it feel to be retarded?
>>23736734
>>23736736
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>>23736756
If so then stop falling for bait and letting schizos live rent free in your head, don't lose to schizos by giving them attention and just report them silently
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>>23736758
Reporting only works once in a blue moon, usually during SEA hours, it's easier to make the shitposter kill himself out of desperation and shame.
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>>23736759
Subhumans don't feel shame sadly
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Where does he rank among the Secondary Riders so far?
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>>23736752
Why do you keep telling on yourself?
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>>23736766
On par with Nago.
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>>23736766
I don't see the point in doing rankings when the show isn't over yet
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>>23736768
Seek help.
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>>23736776
So we can compare his reception at different points of the show.
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>>23736777
You first.
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>>23736780
I mean if we're comparing secondaries during the first half of the shows he's definitely among the least interesting, the best part of him is his fighting style yet he has barely had any fights
The only secondary I think I might have disliked more at this point is maybe Rinne who despite being better written the actress' acting was so offensively bad she legitimately pissed me off more than Nox at this point, even Ibuki who's one of the most basic secondaries had more going for with him at this point than Nox with how comfy the teacher/student dynamic was and him being in love
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>>23736783
Only after you kill yourself.
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tatakae
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>>23736007
Nox is holding the sword backwards.
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>>23736851
Based Lord 5
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>>23736766
Overall? Definitely near the bottom. Among just Reiwa? Better than Live because at least his suit/gear is decent. Not sure if he's better or worse than Tycoon yet.
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>>23734491
>Watching Geats
>This shot
muh dick
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>>23734491
Is Gotchard Worth Watching? finishing geats to get more up to reiwa.
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>>23736935
>Is Gotchard Worth Watching?
No, skip it.
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>>23736935
nah u should watch it
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>>23736935
It's bad.
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>>23736935
>Is Gotchard Worth Watching?
Not at all. Skip to zeztz.
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>>23736935
Don't watch it.
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>>23736935
It's probably better binged but it's not particularly great, mainly because the main rider and the main side character are planks of wood when it comes to acting.
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>>23736951
>>23736952
You didn't need to reply twice.
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>>23736935
It's as worthwhile as any of the other bad Reiwa shows such as Geats, Gavv and Zeztz.
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>>23736973
You mean bad shows like saber and revice. Gavv, Geats, and Zeztz are all good.
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>>23736973
i thougt gavv was good.
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Where do niggas get their Shodo figures from?
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>>23736976
>>23736975
Why are you guys replying to a shitposter?
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>>23736976
Gavv is good.
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>>23736981
because (you) r shitposter too
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>>23736976
It's a bad version of Kiva.
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What ever happened to that China release of the Hopper Zecter we were supposed to be getting? It was showcased alongside the DX Arcle.
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This Oni is a Cutie!
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>>23736996
Abandoned.
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>>23737007
A CUTE
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Anyway, Ayaka Imoto has a new photobook coming soon to celebrate her new adulthood
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>>23737016
Cute!!
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>>23737016
Not rider.
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>>23736975
>Ghostfag
Opinion discarded.
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>>23737020
>Revicefag
Opinion discarded.
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>>23736976
It was good until it wasn't.
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>>23737022
>>Revicefag
But enough about you.
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>>23737030
So you like ghost and revice. All the more reason to discard your opinion.
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>>23737034
So you like ghost and revice. All the more reason to discard your opinion.
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>>23737036
Dumb parrot.
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>>23737037
Dumb parrot.
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>>23737016
She is very pretty.
I wish I could bite her nose.
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>>23737040
She isn't.
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>>23737046
You don't like her now that she isn't underage, huh?
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>bot & AI general
>lolicons everywhere
>shit taste galore
LMAO the absolute state of /nu-krg/
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>>23737050
Go back to your discord server, pedo.
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>>23737060
I'm from reddit, you dingus
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>>23736976
It's fine. It does have the worst/least interesting villain group of any Rider series though and it starts falling apart in the last quarter when Komura remembers there was supposed to be a plot for the past 20-some episodes.
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>>23736976
It started promising but plot progression was TERRIBLE. Needed more Stomach family deaths after episode 14 but it took 26 episodes to get another one with the entire Bitter Gavv storyline kinda awkwardly crammed in there. Power ups just seem to pop out of Shoma for incredibly flimsy reasons one after another. Bake could've been a promising villain but he was literally Scissors tier in terms of screentime. Bitter Gavv being a clone army could've been cool and there was one left unaccounted for after the end of the arc but I guess was just written off.

It's the typical Reiwa show with frustrating writing decisions with an interesting premise that it fails to live up to.
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>>23736683
I'm surprised Exceed Gills suit has held up this well over the years. You'd think all those kibbly bits would be fragile. Like if you watch the Blade anniversary stage show, there are some shots where you can see Joker's arm spike thing broken and flopping around.
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>>23737016
Nice.
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>>23737049
She was always ugly.
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>>23737278
Kys, Revicefag.
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>>23737104
>Power ups just seem to pop out of Shoma for incredibly flimsy reasons one after another
There's always an emotional reason tied to it.
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>>23737293
And they were all phoned in after Caking.
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>>23737300
They weren't.
Blizzard Sorbet was because of his relief at having Sachika accept him.
Frappe Custom was joy at Hanto breaking free of Suga.
Master Gavv was Shouma finally accepting that being a Stomach doesn't automatically make him worse and being happy he was born.
Ala Mode Mode was the of Lakia breaking free from his vengeance to fight for the future.
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>>23737104
>plot progression was TERRIBLE
It wasn't. The plot progressed fine.
>Needed more Stomach family deaths after episode 14 but it took 26 episodes to get another one
Because they were doing more character work with other characters like Lakia, one of our protagonists.
>Bake could've been a promising villain
And he was a great villain. Perfect for Hanto's story and a nice cap off to the middle of it.
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>>23737306
>It wasn't
It was. Stomachs disappeared for an entire quarter.
>Because they were doing more character work with other characters like Lakia
You can do both at the same time. Why are making excuses for Komura?
> And he was a great villain
His entire backstory is unexplained.
You must only like him because he does memey things like Evolt.
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>>23737318
>It was. Stomachs disappeared for an entire quarter.
It wasn't. We know they were doing other things while the Suga plot was going on.
>You can do both at the same time.
Screentime is a limited thing.
>His entire backstory is unexplained.
There are more than enough context clues to put the majority of it together. A scientist who lost his child and became obsessed with creating a perfect lifeform
Gavv didn't fail, it succeeded.
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New Kamen Rider Amazon HOT TOYS ACTION FIGUAR 1/6

Also is there any reason why people are replying to obvious shitposting on both generals? I woke up to find like 40+ posts on each general thinking there had been news but instead no one had posted anything and it was just a bunch of baity statements
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>>23737333
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>>23737312
That's one of the big reasons I hate zeztz suits.
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>>23737333
AI general + Gozyuger ending is putting the shitposters into overdrive
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>>23737328
> It wasn't
It literally was. Did you actually watch the show or are you just shitposting?
> We know they were
No “we” didn’t.
> There are more than enough context clues
If you have to make a Headcanon about it then it’s bad writing.
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>>23737333
>>23737342
You newfags say this every week. Sometimes the general has good periods and bad periods, if you’ve been here long enough you would know that instead of asking dumbass questions.
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>>23737345
Why spend several hours shitposting about a japanese children show you don't even like when you could always just kill yourself or at the very least actually do something productive with your life?
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>>23737343
>If you have to make a Headcanon about it then it’s bad writing.
Naturally letting the viewing pick up on clues that make sense in context is much superior to direct raw exposition or flashbacks. What are you even talking about.

We don't know the details, but it was clear he lost a child, considered the human body too weak due to that, and was making these experiments as a replacement. All that was said in the show, just not put together into a single exposition.
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>>23737303
>Blizzard Sorbet was because of his relief at having Sachika accept him
Sachika had already accepted him before this, Sorbet was born because Shouma got constipated despite Sachika being there for him and then she conveniently found the one food that didn't trigger his tummy ache.
>Frappe Custom was joy at Hanto breaking free of Suga.
He conveniently shat it out because Hanto needed a power-up, he doesn't even look happy here.
>Master Gavv was Shouma finally accepting that being a Stomach doesn't automatically make him worse and being happy he was born
Yeah, the same fucking lesson he has to learn over and over again until he finally stops crying over it in the last few episodes.
>Ala Mode Mode
Same shit as with Hanto.
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>>23737343
>It literally was
It literally wasn't.
>No “we” didn’t.
We did. Nyelv was scrambling to cover his ass after Vram switched sides while Lango and Glotta was continuing to do their jobs like they had been.
>If you have to make a Headcanon about it then it’s bad writing.
That's not headcannon, that's giving the viewer enough clues to figure it out themselves without directly turning the the camera and infodumping.
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>>23737350
>he doesn't even look happy here.
I think you are blind.
>the same fucking lesson he has to learn over and over again until he finally stops crying over it in the last few episodes.
That isn't what happens. At all. He briefly attempts to give up his own happiness with Nyelv's plan to kil Bocca but that's the only time that happens and that isn't even the lesson there. Are you sure you watched the show or are you just shitposting?
>Same shit as with Hanto.
Shouma literally has a giant smile on his face after Lakia's speech then the gochizou pops out.
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>>23737306
>The plot progressed fine
It went in circles with the Bitter Gavv shit in Q2, then we got a little bit of development around the time the Jaldaks got introduced (out of nowhere, may I add), then it went in circles again until they started killing off the rest of the Stomachs in the last 10 episodes.
>>23737328
>It wasn't
Lango literally doesn't appear for like a month or so.
>We know they were doing other things while the Suga plot was going on.
They were doing jackshit, that's why they needed Jiip to return out of nowhere with his in-laws to take over the company and move their story along.
>Screentime is a limited thing.
They were wasting screentime in random one-dimensional Part-Timers and Shouma clones instead.
>There are more than enough context clues to put the majority of it together
His backstory's only hinted at in his last two episodes alive, rushed out the door right before the they off him, they don't do anything with it in the show past those 2 episodes, not even when he "comes back" (the zombie Suga shit was so fucking bad, holy shit), only choosing to do something about it in a fucking drama CD.
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>>23737353
>I think you are blind
He doesn't look happy when he shits it out, only after he realizes Hanto has a new power-up.
>That isn't what happens. At all. He briefly attempts to give up his own happiness with Nyelv's plan to kil Bocca but that's the only time that happens and that isn't even the lesson there.
He was giving up his happiness because of his nature as a Granute and a member of the Stomach family, again.
>Shouma literally has a giant smile on his face after Lakia's speech then the gochizou pops out.
I'll give you that one.
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>>23737351
>Nyelv was scrambling to cover his ass after Vram switched sides while Lango and Glotta was continuing to do their jobs like they had been.
Nyelv covering his shit up was like two short scenes that just serve to maintain the status quo instead of being meaningful developments, and Lango and Glotta doing the same shit they always did but off-screen barely counts as doing anything, especially when they had the perfect excuse to do something noteworthy with the fucking business falling apart under their watch, but they just simply didn't do anything. Lango wasn't even aware of 90% of the shit going down in the show, and there's no hint at all that he made any progress towards his stated goal of climbing the social ladder before he got removed as CEO, so he was pretty much doing jackshit that entire time. And this fucking clown is the final boss of the show.
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>gavv out of nowhere
OBSESSED
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Thinking Reiwa has one of the best stories ever is such an entry-level toku opinion. It’s kinda like thinking Christopher Nolan is a genius director.
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>>23737372
Because Nyelv doesn't want to get fucking caught like what happened later with Bocca.
Lango and Glotta getting the business on track offscreen is fine, especially while the riders are distracted with Suga. And Lango's slow and steady plans were working fine until Jeebh jumped the gun brought in someone they couldn't handle.
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>>23737362
>He doesn't look happy when he shits it out, only after he realizes Hanto has a new power-up.
And he's happy in the scene before where Hanto has his own speech.
>He was giving up his happiness because of his nature as a Granute and a member of the Stomach family, again.
No, he was giving it up because he felt Nyelv's sneak attack plan was better than failing constantly against Bocca.
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>>23737380
This. All reiwa rider shows are bad.
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>>23737345
A sad state of affairs when a newfag is the one >>23737333 posting news while he asks dumbass questions at the same time.
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Drive was the last good rider. This is s fact.
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>>23737400
Why do you phrase your statements like bait?
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>>23737402
To piss you off, specifically.
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>>23737383
>Because Nyelv doesn't want to get fucking caught like what happened later with Bocca.
Yes, I get why he was doing it. Understanding his reasoning doesn't make it any less of a trivial non-development, nobody found out nor cared enough to look further into it, it literally changed nothing.
>Lango and Glotta getting the business on track offscreen is fine, especially while the riders are distracted with Suga
>And Lango's slow and steady plans were working fine until Jeebh jumped the gun brought in someone they couldn't handle
The problem is that those two useless dipshits didn't even actually get the business back on track, Lango was surprised to see the numbers go back up to pre-Kamen Rider numbers a few episodes after the Jaldaks took over. Which only makes him look even worse knowing the context that he had only taken over the company shortly before the events of episode 1, meaning that despite offing his father because he wanted to "aim higher" than him, throughout his entire tenure as CEO his numbers were actually lower than his dad's, he's a fucking joke. And let's not forget Glotta let the heroes get away with a fucking raid to their factory just because they gave her a good fight.
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>>23737410
They went back up to pre-rider numbers BEFORE the Jaldaks took over, he specifically says so just before Jeebh barges in with Lizel.
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>>23737410
>oh no character act in character and not out of character for the sake of drama
Sounds more like a you issue.
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>>23737388
>No, he was giving it up because he felt Nyelv's sneak attack plan was better than failing constantly against Bocca
He did it because Nyelv said that he, as a Stomach, would need to take over as ruler of the Granute World after beating Bocca to keep the human world safe. He never confronted Bocca directly before this plan, which is why he fought him with Over/Master after the hypnosis plan failed instead of running away right away. Even Nyelv thought the Gochipod forms could do something against Bocca.
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>>23737413
It's not about a character doing something in-character, it's about it literally changing nothing in the story. He got away with it and nobody found out, wow, what a fucking noteworthy event.
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>>23737418
>He never confronted Bocca directly before
He and Hanto got beaten by Bocca from a single shot earlier while fighting his minions. He was still afraid of his might and how much damage to the innocent humans a fight could bring which is why he agreed to the sneak attack in the first place.
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>>23737418
>as a Stomach, would need to take over as ruler of the Granute World after beating Bocca to keep the human world safe.
There was nothing about being a Stomach mentioned there, just that Shouma could keep the doors locked from the other side. You are grossly misinterpreting this as the same thing he had been dealing with since ep 1 and finally got past in Master Mode's debut.
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>>23737432
Poppy!
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>>23737412
>They went back up to pre-rider numbers BEFORE the Jaldaks took over, he specifically says so just before Jeebh barges in with Lizel.
He claims he restored the numbers in episode 29, but Glotta scolds him and tells him that they're actually making less and less of the premium line (you know, the line that they supposedly wanted to focus on to climb up the social ladder) by the day. It's not until episode 33, a month after he got demoted, that he looks at the numbers and says the procurement of Quality Presses finally went back to pre-Rider numbers. And the only point in time in which there were no Riders was when his grandpa and his father were running the company. So Lango was always running on lower numbers overall even when he restored the normal Press numbers.

Lango was so incompetent he never got close to fulfilling his initial plan, the one he killed his father for, it was Bocca who had to do it for him.
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Why don't riders just have their gimmicks pre-inserted in their drivers?
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>>23737452
Because where's the fun in that?
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>>23737444
And the method for getting those quality ones drew too much attention and lead to their downfall.
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>beverly singing RealxEyes
neat
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>>23737458
>beverly singing EXCITE
oh!
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>>23737456
That's dumb and impractical. Just having them pre-inserted is more logical.
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>>23737458
She covered REALxEYEZ at Chou Eiyuu Sai? Hope it got clipped.
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>>23737460
>>23737458
The singer behind the terrible build OP. Pass.
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>>23737463
Yeah nice shit taste fag
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>>23737462
EXCITE
https://x.com/KRSentai/status/2018662413592351019
RealxEyez
https://x.com/KRSentai/status/2018662246919127518
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>>23737466
It's funny because she pronounces the english words properly and makes the song sound different in that sense. Still the best female singer Toei has on contract right now.
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>>23737428
>He was still afraid of his might
He wasn't afraid enough to 1v1 him when the hypnosis didn't work though.
>which is why he agreed to the sneak attack in the first place.
His main reason to go to the Granute World was to beat Bocca, become President, outlaw Dark Treats and seal off the portals to the human world to keep humanity safe from further threats.
>>23737431
>There was nothing about being a Stomach mentioned there, just that Shouma could keep the doors locked from the other side.
Nyelv literally starts his offer with a speech about how much he loves the Stomach family and wants it to stand at the top of Granute society, then goes on to say that he realized Shouma was more than just a human with a Gavv and that he has more potential than any of his other family members, then tells him that regaining Stomach Inc.'s control and becoming the Granute President means defeating Bocca, and that by staying in the Granute World as its ruler Shouma can keep humanity safe by enforcing laws against Dark Treats and sealing off the portals to the human world.

He even feels hurt when Nyelv goes back to working for Bocca, which means that whole spiel about them being family did get to him, at least partially.
>You are grossly misinterpreting this as the same thing he had been dealing with since ep 1 and finally got past in Master Mode's debut.
In his goodbye letter he fucking apologizes to Sachika for running away yet again. After he gets rescued from Bocca, Sachika chastises him because he still hasn't realized he deserves to be happy and keeps running away like fucking always. It was the same thing he's been doing since episode 1 and it's only in episode 46 when he finally learns his lesson, after having gone through same pep talk over and over again.
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>>23737480
>Nyelv literally starts his offer with a speech about how much he loves the Stomach family and wants it to stand at the top of Granute society, then goes on to say that he realized Shouma was more than just a human with a Gavv and that he has more potential than any of his other family members,
And none of that matters to Shouma.
>then tells him that regaining Stomach Inc.'s control and becoming the Granute President means defeating Bocca, and that by staying in the Granute World as its ruler Shouma can keep humanity safe by enforcing laws against Dark Treats and sealing off the portals to the human world.
Which has nothing to do with him being a Stomach.
>He even feels hurt when Nyelv goes back to working for Bocca, which means that whole spiel about them being family did get to him, at least partially.
Because that was the first time Nyelv actually acted like family to him.
>In his goodbye letter he fucking apologizes to Sachika for running away yet again. After he gets rescued from Bocca, Sachika chastises him because he still hasn't realized he deserves to be happy and keeps running away like fucking always. It was the same thing he's been doing since episode 1 and it's only in episode 46 when he finally learns his lesson, after having gone through same pep talk over and over again.
And that is where you are wrong. Since Master Mode's debut Shouma had been working towards his own happiness and figuring out what that means. Him sacrificing it because he feels it the best way to keep everyone safe is different than him thinking he didn't deserve it at all. You just have poor comprehension.
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>>23737457
The Jaldaks would've actually won if Lango hadn't gotten in the way, the plot point about the public at large finding about the Granutes went nowhere and there was no hint whatsoever that humanity could actually fight back against them. Lango himself didn't bother keeping a low profile when he regained control of the company either, and he managed to run it completely into the ground in just 2 episodes, way faster than the Jaldaks ever could.
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>>23737480
>His main reason to go to the Granute World was to beat Bocca, become President, outlaw Dark Treats and seal off the portals to the human world to keep humanity safe from further threats.
And he did that because he wasn't sure if he could beat him and was worried about how many innocent humans could die so he went with the sneak attack. They focus on the damage done in that same episode.
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>>23737491
>Lango himself didn't bother keeping a low profile when he regained control of the company either,
Because he foolishly used the Jaldaks faulty methods rather than going back to his slow and steady approach.
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>>23737353
I can tell anon got heated over his first rider show getting flak for it's dogshit writing.
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>>23737489
>Which has nothing to do with him being a Stomach.
It does, because Stomach Inc. controls Dark Treat production and him being the head of the top Granute family gives him the means to protect humanity. And him being a Granute has everything to do with him becoming a peace-keeping Granute President.
>And none of that matters to Shouma
>Because that was the first time Nyelv actually acted like family to him.
So his brother telling him they're family and that he believes in his potential doesn't matter to Shouma, except it does.
>Since Master Mode's debut Shouma had been working towards his own happiness and figuring out what that means.
He's been doing that since the start of the series and he keeps going in circles about it.
>Him sacrificing it because he feels it the best way to keep everyone safe is different than him thinking he didn't deserve it at all.
Putting his constant self-sacrifice for others' sake over his own happiness is pretty much the same thing. You literally described his dilemma since the start of the series, he keeps running away because he wants to keep people safe since he's always surrounded by danger due to his particular circumstances, putting their safety over his own happiness.
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>>23737413
You have low standards
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>>23737492
>And he did that because he wasn't sure if he could beat him and was worried about how many innocent humans could die so he went with the sneak attack
The sneak attack is not the endgame of the plan. The end goal of the plan was to become Granute President and seal the doors AFTER beating Bocca.

And that whole part about becoming Granute President to keep humanity safe forever is when Shouma truly warmed up to Nyelv's offer. Nyelv started out by saying they could beat Bocca together, but Shouma didn't consider the offer until Nyelv brought all that other shit up about using the position of President to ensure humanity remains safe after beating Bocca.
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>>23737507
>Putting his constant self-sacrifice for others' sake over his own happiness is pretty much the same thing.
It's not, sacrificing something because you think it will help others is different from thinking you don't deserve it at all.
>You literally described his dilemma since the start of the series, he keeps running away because he wants to keep people safe since he's always surrounded by danger due to his particular circumstances, putting their safety over his own happiness.
He never put their safety over his happiness until the deal with Nyelv because until Master Mode he felt he didn't deserve it. And he only ran away twice in the beginning, the rest of the time he was wondering because he didn't have anywhere.
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>>23737516
And he decided that AFTER seeing a the damage from the episode because he was worried about how many innocent people could get hurt with how strong he saw Bocca was.
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>>23737499
>the Jaldaks faulty methods
They literally fully restored Hitopress production back to pre-Lango numbers and even began accomplishing what he never could (gaining power abd influence by getting rich Granutes hooked in their product). Stomach Inc. only went under because Lango backstabbed them and took over when he didn't even have the power to beat the Riders like Bocca did.
>rather than going back to his slow and steady approach
His overall numbers were still going down even after he claimed he had restored production, he never restored the production of the kind of Presses that were key to his grand plan. And the production of low quality Presses probably only got restored because the Riders were busy dealing with Suga's shitshow that Lango had absolutely nothing to do with, and since the Riders were done with Suga and his clones, chances are that LQ Press numbers would've gone down again once the heroes got back on track.

He's objectively the worst-performing CEO of Stomach Inc and there's no way he could've fully restored the company's numbers if he kept doing what he did.
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>>23737537
>They literally fully restored Hitopress production back to pre-Lango numbers
By using faulty methods that lead to their demise.
> and even began accomplishing what he never could (gaining power abd influence by getting rich Granutes hooked in their product)
Which Bocca could do because he already had that influence.
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>>23737519
>It's not, sacrificing something because you think it will help others is different from thinking you don't deserve it at all
Thinking others deserve safety more than you deserve happiness has the same end result, you end up believing you don't deserve happiness because of some situation you've evaluated. After the fight with Bocca, Sachika basically tells Shouma that he deserves to be happy and that he should remember that.
>He never put their safety over his happiness until the deal with Nyelv because until Master Mode he felt he didn't deserve it
He did it all the fucking time. The start of the show involves him enjoying his time with a human, then putting his personal happiness aside and running away because he realizes that people aren't safe around him. He puts his happiness aside for others all the time.
>And he only ran away twice in the beginning
He ran away four fucking times at the start. He also considers running away from Sachika multiple times after that.
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>>23737527
I don't know what you're arguing anymore. Ultimately, his nature as a Granute and status as a Stomach family member play a part in the plan that made him abandon his friends again, if he was neither a Granute nor a Stomach, Nyelv would've never come up to him with the proposal that he ended up accepting, because its end goal hinges on him being a Stomach and a Granute.
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>>23737538
>By using faulty methods that lead to their demise.
Their only fault was not ensuring Lango was 100% dead. But his survival was fucking bullshit anyways, so I don't blame them much on that.

Ultimately, Lango is the sole definitive reason why Stomach Inc. imploded. The numbers went down almost immediately after he took over from his dad, never fully recovered under him, he's the reason why Jiip turned against the family, and the Jaldak's plan would've worked if he hadn't sabotaged them and hijacked their plan without ensuring he had the power to carry it out properly.

>Which Bocca could do because he already had that influence.
Nice job proving Bocca had the means to to achieve the goal Lango never could, and unlike him, he actually made progress towards it.
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>>23737551
>Thinking others deserve safety more than you deserve happiness has the same end result, you end up believing you don't deserve happiness because of some situation you've evaluated. After the fight with Bocca, Sachika basically tells Shouma that he deserves to be happy and that he should remember that.
It's completely different. One is an easy choice because you don't think you need it and the other is a difficult choice because you do. What you are doing is equating going left with going right as the same thing.
>He did it all the fucking time. The start of the show involves him enjoying his time with a human, then putting his personal happiness aside and running away because he realizes that people aren't safe around him. He puts his happiness aside for others all the time.
He didn't put his happiness aside until Master Mode became he never sought it out until then because he felt he didn't deserve it.
>He ran away four fucking times at the start. He also considers running away from Sachika multiple times after that.
No, only twice. Once with Hajime and once with the old couple.
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>>23737557
>his nature as a Granute and status as a Stomach family member play a part in the plan
They don't. Being a Stomach was irrelevant to Shouma accepting the deal.
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>>23737575
>Nice job proving Bocca had the means to to achieve the goal Lango never could, and unlike him, he actually made progress towards it.
No, Bocca was already in high status and power by being the president. So he could do things with impunity and disregard because he was already at where Lango wanted to be. And his greed at getting mass quality presses in his faulty ways lead to his death.
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>>23737640
>They don't. Being a Stomach was irrelevant to Shouma accepting the deal.
The deal only exists because he's a Stomach, and he did develop some feelings for Nyelv over this whole thing.
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>>23737697
Except that is irrelevant to Shouma accepting the deal in the first place. Shouma accepts because he felt it was a better way than risking countless lives over fistfights that could level a city. That's why he accepts at the end of the episode rather than immediately when the deal was made.
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>>23737644
>No, Bocca was already in high status and power by being the president. So he could do things with impunity and disregard because he was already at where Lango wanted to be.
Not quite, he was President but he didn't have all the high-ranking Granutes on his side, and they were a threat to his position. He took over Lango's plan to win the nobles over.
>And his greed at getting mass quality presses in his faulty ways lead to his death
No, it was Lango's fault for ruining everything. Bocca would've succeeded if Lango hadn't come back and allied with the heroes just to sabotage him, only to regain control of the company with his powercrept ass and zero strong allies, leading to his demise and the definite end of Stomach Inc.

Increasing production was never a problem because their visibility in the human world never ended up being a problem at any point in the show, and Bocca was easily able to shitstomp the trio of Riders by himself. It was literally only because of Lango's betrayal that Bocca lost, and it's Lango's fault that he decided to continue from where Bocca left off knowing that Shouma alone could beat his ass.

Lango's a pathetic, incompetent excuse of a villain who couldn't stop shooting himself in the foot both times he took over as CEO.
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>>23737702
>Except that is irrelevant to Shouma accepting the deal in the first place
The main reason why he keeps running away is because of his circumstances. And those circumstances are always related to his nature as someone who's part Granute and a member of the Stomach family.
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>>23737717
And he got over that with the Master Mode debut. Him accepting the deal is not related to him being a Stomach, it's him thinking that he can end this with less bloodshed and less risk to the innocent. You seem unable it understand correlation does not imply causation.
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>>23737715
>Not quite,
No, it is. He literally threatens police action against Lango by saying he already controls them.
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>>23737636
>It's completely different. One is an easy choice because you don't think you need it and the other is a difficult choice because you do
You're being retarded on purpose at this point. In one of the early episodes, Siita and Jiip literally threaten to turn the elderly couple he's staying with into Dark Treats. He really enjoys hanging out with the humans that take him in and even considers staying with them permanently, but he chooses their safety over his own happiness and thus he runs away once more.
>No, only twice. Once with Hajime and once with the old couple.
No, four times. First was Hajime, then Sachika, then the thief dude, then the elderly couple.
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>>23737729
Controlling the police isn't the same as controlling all the powerful nobles and political rivals with overpowered abilities, you stupid braindead retard.
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>>23737731
No, it was only Hajime and the old couple. Sachika was always just a stop he was going to leave at first.
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>>23737736
Except he already had most of them in his pocket and controlled enough power to make them disappear like the guy he had Nyelv fuse Suga with.
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>>23737731
>You're being retarded on purpose at this point. In one of the early episodes, Siita and Jiip literally threaten to turn the elderly couple he's staying with into Dark Treats. He really enjoys hanging out with the humans that take him in and even considers staying with them permanently, but he chooses their safety over his own happiness and thus he runs away once more.
No, before Master Mode Shouma did that because he felt he didn't deserve any happiness because of him being born a Stomach. After Master Mode he starts working towards making his own happiness until the deal with Nyelv which he does not because he is a Stomach but because he feels it's the best way to minimize the death and destruction Bocca can cause.
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>>23737724
>him thinking that he can end this with less bloodshed and less risk to the innocent
This is the exact same reason why he keeps running away at the start, he keeps attracting trouble and he doesn't want the kind people he meets to suffer for it. And the reason why he attracts trouble and has the strength to fend it off, is the same reason why he had the opportunity to become a peace-keeping Granute President: because he's part Granute and a Stomach. It's what brings him trouble, but it's also the thing he thinks he has to lean on to keep others safe, as a means to an end.
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>>23737742
And because he felt that by him being a Stomach he didn't deserve that happiness which is why Master Mode is him getting over that. Being a Stomach didn't matter to Shouma the Nyel deal. Again you seem unable it understand correlation does not imply causation.
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>>23737747
>Being a Stomach didn't matter to Shouma the Nyel deal.
Nyelv opening up and acting like his brother did.
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>>23737737
>Sachika was always just a stop he was going to leave at first.
He actually enjoyed staying with her, up until her friend got targeted by a Granute, at which point he got sad and told her to make sure she didn't run into other monsters and left Sachika, who didn't expect him to leave. The thief guy also wanted to take him in, and Shouma enjoyed working for him until he learned he was a thief and then the Granutes got involved again, which promoted him to leave again.
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>>23737755
Both those times Shouma had already made the decision to leave before Granute part-timers got involved.
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>>23737750
But it's not why Shouma accepts the deal.
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>>23737740
>No, before Master Mode Shouma did that because he felt he didn't deserve any happiness because of him being born a Stomach. After Master Mode he starts working towards making his own happiness
The reason why he decides to stay with Sachika in the first place is because she convinced him he should care about himself some more. He regressed in the Master Mode 2-parter because Lango was mean to him and brought his self-esteem down.
>which he does not because he is a Stomach but because he feels it's the best way to minimize the death and destruction
It's the same reason why he keeps running away at the start, to minimize the harm done to others.
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>>23735871
>Drive
An amazing series with great characters and a stupid gimmick.
>Ghost
The first arc is fine, but then it just starts getting repetitive.
>Ex-aid
A fun mess of a show with one of the most memable characters in the franchise and controversial suits.
>Build
A good show with one of if not the best villains in all of Kamen RIder, but it's really really fucking gay. Ignore people who say the post-series specials aren't canon. They're liars.
>Zi-O
An anniversary series that's better when it's not an anniversary series. The agito episodes are peak though.
>Zero-One
It starts and ends really well, but the middle is a slog due to the coof.
>Saber
It starts of pretty rough, and it doesn't have enough time to flesh out or focus on all of its riders and characters, but it's got some sick aesthetics and sound effects.
>Revice
It has some genuinely good moments marred by an overall lackluster and confused plot with some characters who are just utter dogshit.
>Geats
It's a bit of a mess, basically every arc is some time loop bullshit and the ending falls apart very quickly.
>Gotchard
A series marred by bad casting, new, young actors, and a jobber of a tertiary who is a total joke with medicore villains and annoying gimmicks.
>Gavv
A fantastic show from start to finish hindered only by its rather bland villains and the scheduling of the alleged big bad in the first half. Also, very, very gay. Contains MPREG. More than once.
>Zeztz
Only really worth it if you like the idea of a spy thriller. It currently leans heavily on spy tropes about doublecrossing and whatnot.
>Shin Kamen Rider
Wait for the series version.
>Black Sun
Garbage. Not worth your time. It's got a bunch of dumb political BS in it.
>Amazons
If you like edgy stuff this is the series for you.
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>>23737761
And the main reason why he leaves others at the start isn't because he feels bad about being a Stomach, it's because he doesn't want them to be harmed.
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>>23737738
>Except he already had most of them in his pocket
When did he say this? Even then, it was a better idea to have every single noble on his side instead of dealing with multiple coup attempts on the regular, and also have zero political opposition as a result.
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>>23737767
AND because he feels he doesn't deserve happiness because he's a Stomach.
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>>23737769
Not the main reason, he barely identifies himself as one.
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>>23737764
>The reason why he decides to stay with Sachika in the first place is because she convinced him he should care about himself some more.
No, it was because he made to decision actively fight Stomach Inc, he needed a place to stay, and because she was someone he aspired to be like.
>He regressed in the Master Mode 2-parter because Lango was mean to him and brought his self-esteem down.
He doesn't. Fighting Lango directly brought those feelings to the forefront but they were there since the beginning.
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>>23737772
He does identify as a Stomach, he doesn't like it and doesn't want people to know but he internally does.
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>imagine thinking these incompetent shitters are good villains
>imagine thinking they were used well in the story even after it was revealed that they planned to kill them all off in the middle of the show and were only dragged all the way to the finale simply because the producer liked their actors
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>>23737785
>dragged all the way to the finale simply because the producer liked their actors
This keeps happening alot in Rider huh, where one of the producers or writers like something too much so they make sure to keep it around instead of getting rid of it.
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>>23737765
>They're liars.
Not wrong but it's better to stop watching at the end of the show. Those specials seem to exist only to undo the ending.
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>>23737765
>A fantastic show from start to finish
Not really, especially if we take into account that over half of the show's cast is comprised of the villains.
>scheduling of the alleged big bad in the first half
He wasn't even planned to be the big bad in the first place.
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>>23737765
>the middle is a slog due to the coof.
No, anon, the entirety of Gai's tenure as the main villain happened before COVID.
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>>23737765
>>Shin Kamen Rider
>Wait for the series version.
That's already out, it's just a director's cut of the movie that Anno autistically edited to make it look like several episodes of a TV show.
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>>23737791
So like Zero-One then?
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my biggest problem with shoma shitting out upgrades is he can for some reason produce Vrastumgear compatible gochizo which are mostly incompatible with his Gavv. It doesn't make sense to me that he can produce things his belts incompatible with. I get that they have smaller parts that ARE compatible but then what would he theoretically do with the rest? But also why do Caking and Pudding A La Mode not disappear after use but Sorbet and Frappe do?
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>>23735871
Drive, Ex-Aid, Build, Saber and Gavv are all shows that are definitely worth watching. In terms of spin-offs not related to the aforementioned shows, Shin Kamen Rider, Fuuto Tantei and Toujima are also worth a watch.

Zi-O is worth a watch only if you've watched most of the previous Heisei shows, but not all its tributes were made equal. The movies are pure fanservice though.
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>>23737785
Last time I heard of actors being made to stick around it was for characters who actually contributed to the story.
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>>23737844
>But also why do Caking and Pudding A La Mode not disappear after use but Sorbet and Frappe do?
Probably a dual strong emotion. Caking was both the joy of sharing the cake with Sachika and the pride of making it himself. Similarly Lakia is the joy of seeing him overcome his vengeance mixed with the memories Dente and the impact he made on their lives.
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>>23737846
Drive fucks me up because if you want to account for every roidmude you have to watch a bunch of extra media like a couple hyper battle videos or the Ninninger crossover.
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>>23737861
heres your poster bro
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>>23737860
The Ninninger crossover isn't extra media, it aired during SHT, it's basically another weekly episode of Drive.
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>>23737844
Don't think too hard about it, Takebe and Komura definitely didn't, since they clearly gave up after Caking.
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>>23737853
Frappe was made through Shouma's intense love for his butt buddy Hanto yet not only does it dissolve it also didn't make him that much stronger.
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>>23737791
>Those specials seem to exist only to undo the ending.
The ending was stupid anyway.

>>23737809
It's still the best Reiwa rider show.

>>23737812
That doesn't change the fact the middle is a total slog but the start and finish were peak.

>>23737826
Then it should be watched instead because from my understanding they added more content.
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>>23737912
>best reiwa show
lol some of you guys are hilarious man I tell you
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>>23737912
>It's still the best Reiwa rider show
Debatable.
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>>23737912
>It's still the best Reiwa rider show.

That's like saying AIDS is better comparable to cancer or ebola. They are all bad, just one is probably better compared to the others relatively speaking.
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Another problem I have with Gavv is the monsters suit designs are inconsistent. Part timers have fly's on their designs somewhere but none of the other Granute do. In fact why do the Stomachs and Jaldaks look so different from the common Granute body type? I get we live in an era whre they can't afford constantly making new monster suits but thats no reason to get lazy about design consistency.
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>>23737912
It's still Saber. That's how low the bar is for Reiwa.
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>>23737948
>In fact why do the Stomachs and Jaldaks look so different from the common Granute body type?
So the Stomachs do have an explanation in that they've all been heavily modified by Dente and later Nyelv's tech. They're all cyborgs in some manner or another, with Nyelv being the most aggressively converted. I don't think they ever explained why the Jaldaks look that way though.
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>>23737948
>Part timers have fly's on their designs somewhere but none of the other Granute do. In fact why do the Stomachs and Jaldaks look so different from the common Granute body type?
The monsters of the week, the generals, and the mooks all had a different designer instead of all kaijin designs being drawn by the same person like usual.
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>>23737960
>So the Stomachs do have an explanation in that they've all been heavily modified by Dente and later Nyelv's tech. They're all cyborgs in some manner or another, with Nyelv being the most aggressively converted
That's not an explanation, that's a headcanon.
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Preorder starts tomorrow
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>>23737970
>That's not an explanation, that's a headcanon.
I mean this was directly explained by Tamotsu Shinohara on Twitter and demonstrated by the fact they all have the same unique belt built into their gavvs.
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>>23737966
I guess that explains why Lakia still has a fly on him despite hating dark treats. So the fly designs technically never had anything to do with consumption of dark treats.

>>23737970
I THINK I read in an interview that Nyelv at least has modified himself, though in his case it was just some more blades on him. So the problem still stands of inconsistent designs.
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>>23737975
I think he just means Nyelv bulked himself with extra blades. On the topic of Nyelv, he's easily my favorite monster design of the show. His head actually matches his body for one, that was my big problem with Lango who looks like his body was designed way after his head, I like how threatening his bulk is too. Didn't like the end he got but whatever, disappointment is normal for Reiwa at this point.
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>>23737975
Ok, so there's confirmation that Nyelv modified his own body to strengthen it (which makes sense since he was born weak), but there's no confirmation that the other siblings got modified beyond the addition of a Mimicdeviser. And considering the way Zonb talked about Nyelv, it seems like his older siblings were naturally strong.
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>>23737977
Rakia's suit is a kitbash of pre-existing monsters of the week, his torso is a repaint of the Mushroom Granute's. Only his head, his blue tendrils and his frilly shoulderpad are brand new.

But yeah, his body looked like that even before he had any modifications done on him. The only thing that changed after getting modified by Nyelv was the addition of the golden mechanical belt and the slot for mimic keys that all Part-Timers have.
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>>23737506
>>23737513
hasegawafag.............
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>>23737959
No, saber is still bottom of the barrel alongside revice.
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>>23738035
>>23738037
Retarded samefaggot..................................................................................................................................................................................................
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>>23737867
Why'd he do it?
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>>23738074
He teamed up with Roidmudes to fight for robot rights.
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>>23738074
Because he's jealous, his show was forgotten and has no fans.
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>>23738037
Saber at least bothered to give each of its riders a good fight in the last arc. I cannot remember a single thing Aguilera did.
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>>23738035
he did write Nexus I'll give him his credit sure
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Fuck yall this is one of the peakest stretch of episodes ever
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>>23738085
I remember it. Capcom remembers it with Q in street fighter. I think he's a much more timeless design than most retro heroes, his suit's very good. Shame that he never appeared in that one taisen movie, him and a bunch of other ishinomori heroes deserved better.
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>>23737788
They will never have the balls to kill anybody.
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>>23738100
No, it was shit.
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>>23738100
says (you)
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>>23738100
Did you know that the words Ren said at the end of that fight are the same ones he said at the end of his very first fight with Desast?
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How did these become the best selling gimmick toys when they have no play value?
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>>23737860
What fucks me up about Drive is that they went out of their way to cover pretty much every roidmude, but never bothered to use all of Drive's shiftcar powers. I get that the suit tires were probably rough on the budget, but isn't selling the toys kind of the point of having all those collectibles anyway? Shit, some shiftcars got entire focus episodes to characterize and endear the audience to toy cars and they STILL didn't get used.
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>>23737785
Nigga, you've just said it yourself. People don't like the Stomachs as villains, they like the actors.
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So realistically which of the fake options could be made real in the future and which were totally fake with no chance of ever being made?
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>>23738131
I want the Ex-Aid one to be real because
Tetsuya Iwanaga's hair has become downright majestic and I want to see him flaunt this as Shin Neo Dan Kuroto God Super Gamer God+.
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>>23738131
think of it as market research, the more votes the options has the more likely they'll do something about it
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>>23737765
>Gotchard
>medicore villains
You finna talk shit, bruh?
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>>23738130
The Gavvfag was defending how they were used in the show. And the reason why they were kept alive was because the staff, not the audience, liked their actors.
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>>23737765
>with some characters who are just utter dogshit.
>some
That's like 80% of the Revice cast.
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>>23738146
>That's like 100% of the Revice cast.
Fixed
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>>23738131
Ryuki, Gaim and Ex-Aid are the most likely, Ghost and Amazons are too unpopular to get shit, and the rest have too many unavailable actors for a movie to happen.
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>>23738128
>Shit, some shiftcars got entire focus episodes to characterize and endear the audience to toy cars and they STILL didn't get used.
Amazing Circus and Deco Traveller got done dirty and it fucks me off to this day.
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>>23738128
I blame Drive for the problem we have now of having a shit ton of collectible items but not even renders or concept art of forms. Gotchard got concept art of all SUITS sure but no concept art of all the wild forms, and they're missing concept art of the other legend rider forms. Gavv somehow still sells gochizo who have generic sounds but somehow gochizo were just that popular they can be sold entirely off of existing.
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>>23738142
Hi, Flame!
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>>23738163
>Gavv somehow still sells gochizo who have generic sounds but somehow gochizo were just that popular they can be sold entirely off of existing.
Well most of them are just different flavors so people can relate to them.
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What happened to the ttfc mega? Link isn't working
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>>23738164
Hi, Duel! How's your diabetes going?
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>>23738163
>Gavv somehow still sells gochizo who have generic sounds but somehow gochizo were just that popular they can be sold entirely off of existing
Bandai's just trying to get rid of the massive pile of unsold leftovers they made by putting new stickers on and rebranding them. Remember that Gavv has the worst-selling toyline of the last 9 years.
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>>23738131
Ryuki 25th and Den-O 20th next year.
They put more effort on the Gaim logo seeing it looks like the Agito one, but the movie probably won't be until 2028 (Gaim 15th)
If they wanna do Build they need a better title, that Be The Two almost look like a bad photoshop.
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>>23738167
Seems like every Ei Mega uploads including the recent Girls Remix got DMCA'd.
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>>23738226
All because some guy really hated him being a whiny baby
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I don’t get it. This shit is GREAT and has been on an upwards trajectory in quality the whole way through. Why does it have such shit rep?
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>>23738232
Because certain anons in here just hate on it for shitpost reasons.
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https://twitter.com/KRSentai/status/2018821048930803938
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>>23738232
>Why does it have such shit rep?
Most people dropped it around the first 15 or so episodes, majority of them didn't even make it past the first 3 episodes episodes. It also has some major schizo haters, one of them is legit one of the worst and most constant shitposters in this board's history, at this point he's probably second only to Duel.
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>>23738240
The times where he dissed on Aniki.
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/21849578/#q21850725
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/22297684/#q22299896
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>>23738119
What? They make multiple sounds by themselves, they have the face rotation gimmick, can be used in the belt in different ways.

But, also, the combination of large number of Watches covering all Heisei main Riders just in q1, with even more release afterwards anyway. And was the toyline actually pushed in the series rather than just being a side toy-only gimmick to something else.
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>>23738247
I always liked how the upgraded belt in Gaim turned fruit into soda
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>>23738232
Because it's actually bad.
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Do not let the masses fool you
There is nothing wrong with a good Hype and aura moments
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>>23738268
You insulted Aniki's memory, your opinion is worth less than trash.
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>>23738268
Are you the schizo they talk about?
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>>23738288
Yes, it's him.
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https://twitter.com/rina_onuki0529/status/2019018012867879157
Rina's 19 sec video.
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Bro always feels like he shouldn’t have been there
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>fujimi: finally back with my love again
>kensei: wtf is dis nigga baku smoking
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>>23738298
Anon, being almost as pathetic as Duel is not something to be proud of, it's something that should make you rethink your life.
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>>23738165
>>23738163
> Gavv somehow still sells gochizo who have generic sounds
That’s normal anon. We usually get a few post-show toy stragglers. The only difference is that it’s retail instead of p-bandai.
> Remember that Gavv has the worst-selling toyline of the last 9 years.
It’s not that black and white anon.
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i keep thinking about the fact that a Reiwa Rider episode costs twice as much as a Heisei episode now
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>>23738326
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>>23738337
Why did you steal Koji Mori's Idea about a transforming hero that enters dreams to fight monsters?
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>>23738337
Greetings, Hideaki Yanaka. I would like to say that you are a nigger. That is all.
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>>23738328
Man, if it's due to the CG effects they really should tone that shit down.

You'd think Bandai would be paying for that due to the toy advertising. It's ugly most of the time anyway.

The last two shows don't even have the stupidly large number of q1 forms that some previous series had. And yet we still have recycled suit monsters for monsters that last two episodes.
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>>23738328
it's fucking expensivce everywhere if we are honest, disney don't have revenue out of their shows anymore that aren't gray anatomy, warner is dead, fox is dead, netflix just made slop etc etc.

Bleak situation for TV production and toy-based franchise have it hard since there's a lot less kids nowdays.
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>>23738328
reminds me when they drove Geiz's actor to the country side for 5 hours only for a single scene filmed that day to make it to the show
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Just finished Saber. Gonna put Trio on hold till tomorrow.

It was genuinely great. It’s easily a top 3 for me now. I can never trust you fuckers again
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>>23738337
Kys, Shitposting larper.
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Where the fuck is this show going
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>>23738368
My nigga. I will always appreciate Saber for being the ray of light following that dogshit Zero-One. Fuck y'all.
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>>23738311
>*cryptic mumbling intensifies*
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>>23738311
You're right anon, he shouldn't be there... I should be the one standing along Minami!
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>>23738368
Anon this is literally the only english speaking site that actually says that Saber is good because in everywhere else most people haven't seen it through the end, the hell are you talking about by "never trust you fuckers again"
Unless you're a rarity that actually liked the universally hated first quarter
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>>23738397
He's probably new and/or thought the resident shitposter was multiple people. Or maybe he only visited this place back when Saber was airing.
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>>23738311
He's too old for that haircut, he looks like he's having a midlife crisis.
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>>23738368
If Saber was your first show, I can see why you'd like it.
Compared to nearly any other Rider, it falls extremely short.
But I'm glad you watched it for yourself, and made up your own mind about it. Don't trust what others say about anything, watch every Rider show yourself, in full, or you're not a true fan.
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>>23738368
Trio of Deep Sin is one of the best movies in the franchise, it's an excellent cap off to the show. Even people who don't like Saber tend to praise that V-Cinema, it has a very different tone from the show, but it manages to keep its spirit.
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>>23738429
Kami/Fukuda is a powerful combo, I hate Ghost yet the Specter V-Cinema was fucking amazing and a top 10 Kamen Rider movie for me
Honestly now that standalone movies are on the table again I hope Fukuda writes some movies, he clearly has less chance to fuck up with movies because it's a schedule he's actually used to working with
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>>23738427
>Compared to nearly any other Rider, it falls extremely short
Not really.
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>>23738431
>gives no argument
nta but at least try to be taken seriously
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>>23738427
>first show
>top 3
Failed math too, schizokun?
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>>23738432
The most consistent Rider has ever been was back during the start of Heisei Phases 1 and 2, and that consistency only lasted 3 shows at most. After Ryuki, every Phase 1 show with the exception of Den-O had notable flaws despite being well-liked or was straight up called terrible. After Fourze, Phase 2 kept kinda alternating between good and mid or bad shows, with the longest streak just being the Ex-Aid and Build duo, only to end in Zi-O. Now we're 7 shows deep into Reiwa, and every single one of them is significantly flawed in some way or another. And I'm being fair here by not bringing Showa into the conversation.

Rider just has never been the most consistent franchise, it's much more of a quality rollercoaster than Sentai, and I don't know why people have forgotten that.
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>>23738450
I'd argue that most of Heisei is still above Saber but you're still right
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>>23738450
What’s Sabers flaw. I’ll wait
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Did Takahashi ever explain why his summer movies always take place after the show's ending?
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>>23738439
>>23738450
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>>23738455
Iirc, Zero-One's was supposed to take place during the show and Zero-Two was supposed to debut in it, but they had to change it into a post-show movie because of the whole Corona fiasco.
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>>23738322
post show stragglers should not look like these fucking terrible nightmare things

>>23738455
true ending just sounded good for a movie title probably, game theme and everything.

Real x Time probably didn't have much choice in the matter because of DA VIRUS.

and I don't think the Geats movie takes place after the show, it just has a terrible timeline.
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>>23738454
Too many Riders on the same side introduced too close to each other in Q1 which leads to most of them just standing around waiting for their arcs to start, the civilians not having focus in Q1 dulls the actual sense of heroism, Ogami and Daishinji never grow as people, Reika turning into a Rider actually makes her lose her relevance despite being menacing in Q2, Storious' actor decides to get really bad in the endgame when he was fine beforehand, and the epilogue devotes several minutes to farting.
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>>23738454
It's painfully mediocre, complete opposite of ghost and gotchard.
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>>23738450
Sounds like the justifications of an angry J-dramafag who still doesn't realize the series is a boy's action franchise and not just soap opera slop for cat ladies.
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>they probably won't even bother having Yuzuki record herself saying "I love you" for the P Bandai release of this
fuck this gay earth
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>>23738487
>Too many Riders on the same side introduced too close to each other in Q1 which leads to most of them just standing around waiting for their arcs to start
While Q1 introduced too many things at once and Q3 sidelined the supporting characters to have a strong focus on the Main Trio, I think Q2 did a good job of connecting all the character arcs together. Daishinji's was tied to Yuri's through Touma's development, Ogami's actually had some impact on Ren's, Rintaro's and even Primitive Dragon's, Kento's was tied to Ren's and Primitive Dragon's as well, and Rintaro's was influenced by nearly everyone's character arc. And of course everyone gets their own moment in Q4 too.
>Ogami and Daishinji never grow as people
Those two and Ren had a stick up their asses regarding Touma because he was a seemingly unskilled outsider, until Touma proved his worth and humbled them through various means, though Ren did take much longer to give him the respect he deserved. Ogami and Daishinji are just older and more experienced than the rest of the swordsmen, so they're not nearly as immature and impulsive as the Main Trio and Ren, and levelheaded characters like them are mostly used to guide and support the others. But they do have their own personal dilemmas, which for the most part consisted of them evaluating which was the decision that felt truly right to them: staying loyal to Logos or choosing Touma's side.
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>>23738517
So we agree Reiwa is the best for having the best action, right?
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>>23738472
>and I don't think the Geats movie takes place after the show
It officially does.
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>>23738526
I like Q2 quite a bit but that doesn't change the fact that Q1 was overly cluttered and even after the show tightened things up it had too many characters it was unwilling to get rid of.
Ogami and Daishinji at best share the same exact arc, in fact they're probably the single best example of this show being overstuffed since Daishinji gets a two-parter in Q2 fighting and then bonding with Touma only for Ogami to lazily repeat that exact arc immediately afterward. Even then said arc was just realizing the new guy was right and their old bosses were wrong, they don't change their philosophies the way someone like Ren or Kento did so much as they realized they were being lied to and changed allegiances. You say they had a stick up their ass but both of them were already happily goofing around in Q1. They don't even show the same intense emotional connection to Logos that Rintaro does (even though logically Daishinji at least should) so their defections don't carry the weight that it should, it felt not like them leaving their cult and more like leaving their job.
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>>23738528
huh, wiki says so too. So you're telling me this guy just randomly appeared for giggles for one teaser and decided to fuck off until after the DGP got destroyed.

Never saw the movie, I can't stand Geats. Constant frustrating writing decisions with a lead actor with a wooden performance.
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>>23738538
Watch it if only for the action scenes. XGeats may be an obnoxious clown, but he can fight really damn well.
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>>23738538
As far as Rider movies go, it was pretty alright.
I like the little background lore tidbit about X Geats targeting Gaim next.
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S.H.Figuarts Kumo-Aug
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>>23738546
Haven't seen it, but does Geats X specifically hunt riders who have become gods? Because if so, I'm really enjoying imagining a scene where Kuroto Dan is like "surely Geats X must be coming after me next!" and then getting pissed of when he doesn't.
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>>23738556
Hachi Aug figuarts when?
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>>23738556
I love the thing with them holding chunky telephones
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>>23738535
>it had too many characters it was unwilling to get rid of
I don't think it needed to get rid of any of the initial ones because they all contributed something to the story, and simply killing them off would go against the central themes of the show and one of the aspects that makes it a quite unique entry in the franchise
>Ogami and Daishinji at best share the same exact arc, in fact they're probably the single best example of this show being overstuffed since Daishinji gets a two-parter in Q2 fighting and then bonding with Touma only for Ogami to lazily repeat that exact arc immediately afterward
I've seen many people share this sentiment, but I think it's a very shallow comparison made just because both fight Touma and join him by the end of their arcs. Daishinji was much more preoccupied with determining whether Touma was physically and mentally cut out to be an independent swordsman or not, whereas Ogami was mostly questioning himself on whether leaving the organization he's been working at for decades was a good decision for him and his family or not. Most of Ogami's scenes are spent on him feeling conflicted because he has conflated working for Logos with protecting his family rather than testing Touma, since Touma at this point had already gotten most of his shit together. So in one arc you have Daishinji pushing and guiding Touma, and in the following one you have Touma (and Sora) pushing and guiding Ogami. Touma even tries to empathize with Ogami at the end of their duel because he also knew the sensation of feeling lost due to all the hardships he faced in the previous episodes.

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>>23738566
>Even then said arc was just realizing the new guy was right and their old bosses were wrong, they don't change their philosophies the way someone like Ren or Kento did so much as they realized they were being lied to and changed allegiances
They weren't nearly as immature as Ren and Kento were, so they had always approached tense situations with caution. They were experienced and levelheaded from the get go, so they didn't need to go through radical changes like the younger swordsmen did because they're grown-ass men who already knew better than them, that's why they were always the first ones to call Reika out on her bullshit and why they were the first ones who left Logos. They're wiser than youngsters like Kento, Ren and Rintaro who often let their emotions get the best of them.

It makes sense that they're already more "developed" than the rest, since they're mature older men who already went through some of the bullshit that went down in the show many years before. They ARE the younger swordsmen's seniors and mentors, they are supporting characters.

>They don't even show the same intense emotional connection to Logos that Rintaro does (even though logically Daishinji at least should) so their defections don't carry the weight that it should, it felt not like them leaving their cult and more like leaving their job
They're smarter and wiser than Rintaro, these two scolded him and Kento back in Q1 when they got into a fight because one prioritized his utmost loyalty to Logos and the other prioritized his personal feelings. Not only that, Daishinji had a prophecy outside of the Sword of Logos to look forward to, and Ogami was an outsider who treated his duty more like a job.

I don't think it was a bad idea at all to explore the perspectives of experienced men like these that were much more mature and sober than the likes of Rintaro and Ren, who were prone to emotional breakdowns because they were boys that hadn't gotten their shit together yet.

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>>23738557
>but does Geats X specifically hunt riders who have become gods?
He hunts gods in general, he targeted Ace and Kouta because they were gods. But yeah, he probably wouldn't have gone after Kuroto because he's only a self-proclaimed god and not an actual god with actual supernatural powers.
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>>23738328
Don't forget that Sentai episodes cost way more than rider. TV has become expensive
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>>23738527
Honestly, I can't really agree. Reiwa's action sequences are definitely more polished since they began storyboarding action scenes ahead of time. At the same time they're lacking the frantic energy the old filming style brought. And even that's different from Showa's haphazard yet audacious and sometimes outright dangerous stunts.

Reiwa definitely has the potential to have the best action, but I don't think they've found the proper balance between stuntwork and VFX the way they had in late Heisei/Early Heisei II.
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>>23738582
>action
rder VFX is never good
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>>23738593
Wtf it's even lower than gavv?

Takahashi finally goes down to unpopular writer
LMAOOO
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>>23738593
I'm really curious what the final last number of gozyuger will be.
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>>23738612
Why do you type like a retard rather than stating it normally? It makes it harder to take you seriously
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>>23738593
I cannot read this but assume Zeztz sold poorly since aside from the first month where it was selling extremely well in the countryside there weren't any news of the toys selling out unlike the 4 prior seasons, also Shirakura's comments and the fact that toys are delayed in some other asian countries where the show might be more popular
I assume Gozyuger's sales improved due to the news of Sentai ending, this makes me wonder if they'll include post series Gozyuger merch sales in the Project R.E.D category or if they'll feature both from now on?
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>>23738593
>>23738612

6.3 for Zeztz q1.

So, yeah, lower than Gavv's.

>>23738621
I'd guess we'll see both Sentai and Project Red separately while Sentai keeps relevant numbers.
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>>23735871
You missed Build (the last good Rider show) and Amazons season 1.
Don't bother with anything else.
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>>23738640
>Build (the last good Rider show)
Only if you're a redditor.
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>>23738626

Also, Bandai didn't change the full year expectations, so they seemed to expect this performance.
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>>23738621
The Capsems are pretty shit trinkets. They did the moving picture gimmick of Shinkenger's disks again but way worse, with only half the animation frames and, because of the plastic cogs in the spinning wheel obstructing the view, you can't spin the Capsems too fast or else you won't be able to see the animation clearly. And you're only supposed to spin the Capsems once when they're inserted in the belts.

Also Zeztz's overall aesthetic is pretty uninspired.
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>>23738642
I'd bet 20 bucks Reddit has more Rider discussion than this graveyard.
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>>23738650
A hit dog will holler.
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>>23738647
>>23738621
I really think the main issue goes with both Gavv and Zeztz going for the dumb Drive toy format, where you have a bunch of gimmicky toys that don't give forms, just cg effects or goofy weapons. Drive saw a huge fall when doing that and now we saw the same with Gavv. Zeztz is even bellow Gavv, but not by much, just 0.2 (Gavv q1 was 6.5 compared to Zeztz's 6.3).

So, I really think this toy format is the main culprit.
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>>23738655
Zeztz’s toyline also got a price cut compared to Gavv’s
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>>23738655
I'm honestly surprised Wizard did well despite doing the same but less (IIRC you only get a form change that drastically altered the head and nothing else). But yeah it's not going to work out long term. Zeztz I think is worse in the case because his forms don't change in silhouette at all. It just changes color and the pattern on his chest. At least Kuuga and Wizard was a bit more substantial in their form changes. Bandai needs to go back to the modular form change design similar to Geats but make it more universal and simpler. Maybe make the form change similar to Fourze and Kyoryuger where each form changes is essentially a weapon but make it substantial enough by having it change either the left or right arm only. That way you can have form changes be mostly weapons but it changes the arm along with it making form changes have a more unique silhouette even if its subtle and it's simple in design that the Action Figures and potentially Figuarts needs to swap just the arms making it viable to replicate.
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>>23738655
Gavv's main issue is that they underproduced, even though tokuota complained about the design the gochizo would sell out constantly yet Bandai wouldn't have enough to supply, in Zeztz's case it's what >>23738647 said, the capsems suck and despite toys being the lifelines for these shows they aren't selling toys in the west making the whole concept of bringing the shows worldwide kind of pointless, not that selling toys in the west would have improved sales that much
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Nemu-chan !
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>>23738693
Hmm, I'm not really feeling the same as I usually do towards Nem as I usually do to Takahashi's mascot girl heroines. Dunno why.
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>>23738647
That reminds me, what Sentai trinkets can be remade into Rider trinkets and still sell well? I feel that the Gears from Zenkaiger can be copied wholesale and do well.
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>>23738696
The gears would be just Ridewatches with less playability.
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>>23738640
Armor Zone is fine but S2 has IF BEING BORN INTO THIS WORLD IS A SIN THAT CANT BE FORGIVENNNNNN
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>>23738712
I don't think those two are on the same level. Ridewatches are similar to Shift Cars or the Boonboomger cars where it's a big hunk of plastic you insert and it presses down on three rails to make a sound. I honestly don't know how the Zenkaiger Gears work but it would definitely benefit in making the Rider belt be robotic and gear based. Complete with a lever like the Build and Gavv belt to crank and spin the gear.
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>>23738696
>I feel that the Gears from Zenkaiger can be copied wholesale and do well.
Zenkai (and Donbro) Gears are more like OOO Medals, they don't have their own electronics or fidget feature to be played without the main roleplay toy.

>>23738712
Sentai Rings are closer to Ridewatches because of the spinning image part, heck Ridewatches felt like already reused Ninninger Shurikens.
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On one hand I'm not ready for the show to end, on the other I don't know how they're going to resolve the kid being the final boss with just one episode left and Takumi being in danger of succumbing to the dust cancer, although seeing there's an anniversary movie 20 years later I doubt that's much of a concern.
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Is Rita the third rider or Nem
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>>23738781
We have no info about the tertiary aside from his design, everything so fsr indicates that the tertiary is male so neither
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>Gavv & Zeztz viewership ratings
(Data source: 株式会社ビデオリサーチ)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10461486582

Kamen Rider Gavv
>Average 2.2%
>Highest 2.5%
>Lowest 1.8%

Kamen Rider Zeztz (ongoing)
>Average 2.2%
>Highest 2.8%
>Lowest 1.8%
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>>23738819
Reiwa Rider viewership rating
Zero-One
>Average 3.3%,
>Highest 4%,
>Lowest 2.3%

Saber
>Average 2.9%,
>Highest 4.3%,
>Lowest 2.3%

Revice
>Average 2.4%,
>Highest 3.3%,
>Lowest 1.8%

Geats
>Average 2.4%,
>Highest 3.1%,
>Lowest 1.7%

Gotchard
>Average 2.1%,
>Highest 2.7%,
>Lowest 1.5%
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>>23738607
It's never been Hollywood level, but there was previously more measured usage of it before the later portion Heisei II and Reiwa started leaning into anime-esque spectacle.
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Damn when is Nox Wolf Shadow gonna debut?

Funny that Wolf Shadow was actually used for Nox Shadow’s TV-Asahi spec page at first before being corrected.
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>>23738746
The gears are just plastic bricks with no real function that you insert into the toys (which detects the pin and then plays a sound). One side has the heroes's face, monochrome, another the team emblem, also monochrome. the Donbrothers version in the next year had a colored picture, but only the hero face. It's the most basic type of legend collectible you can do.
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Gavv didn't really have that many forms did it.
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DX Legend Rider Capsem Random Box

Strongest Form ver. 01
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The box.
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