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/krg/ - Kamen Rider General #4029: Dual Heisei Anniversary Edition Anonymous 01/30/26(Fri)00:53:34 No.23729713 [Reply]▶
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Post your impressions on Zeztz's Q2 powerups.
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How will Zeztz's final form surpass his Q2 upgrades?
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are these final forms or penultimates?
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One of the Chinese leakers said Lord Three's upgrade uses a regular Capsem. Rise is probably Zeztz's final form since it's confirmed to be a Capsem with electronics.
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Orderm suit
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>>23729806
Personally Grand Zi-O but I assume that for most people Muteki was the last time a final form was the best main upgrade, if not Muteki then Tridoron
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>>23729815
Nah people hate it because the gold statues look tacky
I hate it becauseGrand Zi-O never recreated this scene from the opening
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>>23729806
>When was the last time the final form wa the best looking upgrade?
Gavv
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>>23729851
I like Master Gavv too man but c'mon, no need to lie like that. Picrel is still the best looking Gavv upgrade.
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>>23729860
Nox is fodder for the Lords, the Lords are fodder for these forms.
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>>23729815
>Feels like people only hate it because of Decade Complete.
Personally, I hate it because Ohma and Ohma Form eclipse it completely in terms of looks. It's just too messy compared to those sleek, regal looks. Even Geiz Majesty manages to look better despite being kind of lazy. The Buddhist shrine look just doesn't look cool adapted to the human form. It's clunky and ugly.
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Decade Complete isn't a beloved design in the first place. That said, I feel like it's one of the designs that ended up ultimately hated due to how it was used in the show.
Comedic debut + jobbing afterwards while having this bulky fancy design just makes it feel like a loser. Stuff like needing to touch the statues to summon the Rider might have seen like a neat idea, but when combined with losses just makes it look clunky.
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Valen is worse than Nox, Live and Tycoon. His only real major kill and accomplishment was Jiip, a bigger jobber than Kamen Rider Valen himself
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Beroba looks to have gotten bigger...
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To be fair, Lord Three is also getting an upgrade at some point and I'm sure the tertiary could end up getting a P-Bandai upgrade like Valvarad Kurogane. But yeah, honestly good for Nox getting a final form after the main and getting a bundle too that's pretty rare for a secondary.
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>>23730084
Apparently, they both learned they're quite similar. Same interests. Same mutual friends. Same favorite candy (Rinne offered Beroba some hot spicy gummies once but she was too afraid to try). It sounds like they want to try and co-star in more works cause it just came natural for the two of them to play sisters.
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Bless the Namiki genes, damn.
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Will Nox's final form stomp over Zeztz's own final form to advertise the former?
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>Lord Three is also getting an upgrade at some point and I'm sure the tertiary could end up getting a P-Bandai upgrade
There is a DX Capsem Set 05 slated for May 2nd when the Final Form items release. So it could contain Capsems for Lord Three's upgrade and Dark Zeztz's Darkness Capsem. It could also imply Zeztz's final form has auxillary Capsems or could even be extra Capsems for Nox or the tertiary.
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Clear doesn't seem to be the actual upgrade, it looks like it's just used for the ability and has a generic Enforce sound in the Lord Invoker. Kimela made it seem like it uses a different Capsem since he didn't acknowledge Clear at all.
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I didn't think Nox will be an enemy by then, he's already getting sick of The Lady in the last episode. He would also kinda be retarded if he was still an enemy by the time Orderm comes around and I doubt the tertiary is gonna be friendly to him either if he's supposed to be an antagonist.
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Her mole is on there huh
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I'm cooming
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https://twitter.com/vv__official/status/2017070275712667676
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>>23729716
that's a god damned sentai team cannon if ive ever seen one. Look they're even using red, blue, and yellow.
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Meitantei Precure, detective theme. Girl from 2027 time slips to 1999 via mascot fairy magic. The series is her being a detective with another girl, with the goal being finding a way back to her time. I'll look forward to them not defaulting to smartphones for everything.
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It would be a more thrilling fight if Nox was some random throwaway.
But he’s the Secondary with a confirmed upgrade so the stakes are lower.
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Holy fuck
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Is stag considered to be the lesser of the two beetles in japan?
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What is this, jailbaits unite?
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Don't forget the Gouraigers and Beet and Stag Buster. The beetle duo is all over the place in Japanese media.
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Are there more kino reaction pics like this?
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Probably a spin on the "Red Oni, Blue Oni" trope
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>It's bittersweet
https://youtu.be/EVRlq5MyCwY?si=LmnPDjZk56p4eHNK
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Kamen Rider Amazon's Yamamoto Daisuke, aka Okazaki Toru, is currently hospitalized.
As a result of the diagnostic hospitalization, he was diagnosed with kidney cancer,
and he has successfully completed surgery to remove one of his two kidneys.
Early February is the planned time for discharge, and it's expected to be ahead of schedule.
Fans, please rest assured.
https://x.com/K1muraeda/status/2017181033930862898
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Ryuki has is my favorite finale, not really because of the ending itself but the speechby the ORE journal boss, Shinji's speech at the start of the episode and Ouja VS Zolda make me emotional to this dsy
Really bittersweet ending
>>23731163
Why are most V-Cinema themes so great? I still listen to this, NEW WORLD, Brand New Day, Perfect Triumph and specially Leave all All Behind pretty regularly
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>>23729832
Honestly, Grand Zi-O is a mistake. It's one of those Main Rider Final Forms with the absolute worst track record, having lost every single battle after the first. Any other Final Forms with just as terrible track record? Yes, Zero-Two.
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The series still counts Zero-Two as the Final Form. Ark-One is Ark-Zero's Final Form, as it requires a vessel to access this form. Zero-Two lost a lot more than Grand Zi-O, including its final form status, that they decided to turn it as a separate Rider in the clearly forced epilogue movie. And I see Zero-Three as the true final form for Zero-One, if Fumiya Takahashi is ready to return, but with an extreme price: Aruto's life.
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As someone who lies in Japan, they're totally equal. Neither one is more favoured.
They're like Greymon and Garurumon.
You gotta remember that Stronger is a kabutomushi that appeared solo, but Kuuga and Agito were also kuwagatamushi that appeared without the other.
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Ei finally uploaded the new girls remix
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They both play supporting characters in this mystery drama where a guy is trying to find out what happened to his dad. The two are sisters in a neighborhood who the guy visits whenever he needs info from social media. They're Queen and Elizabeth basically.
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But that Geats episode was good and Zeztz's hasn't come out yet
Otherwise yeah Zero-One is definitely the worst one out of those, Revice's episode was also kinda weak but it's salvaged by Sakamoto's direction
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I like the color scheme and muscle/bone duality they got going on. The "gatling gun" is too dinky and looks meh, and it irks me that it's seemingly going to be mained by the the form that should be hitting everything like a truck.
Hope Catastrom's suit looks closer to something like Agito Burning rather than Zyuoh Gorilla. As for Orderm, all the armor pieces will hopefully offset the awkward "naked" look that every other suit in the show has.
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>Train
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In that regard Sword form is very clearly in reference to Momotaro, the peach boy who slays a red Oni. That, theoretically, can count as a single theme. However of course Den-O does otherwise do multiple themes. They just vary based on the used Form.
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Each form is determined by the Imajin. And the Imajin took forms based on shit in Ryotaro's mind. They each took forms based on Japanese fairytales. Momotaros took on the form of the Oni from Momotaro and it's further reflected in Sword Form.
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>he train motif isn't a reference to Momotaro
Yeah. I didn't copy/paste the whole thing, but I was specifically talking about Sword Form in that it is a singular theme. I was not challenging the train aspect.
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[SAD NEWS] Kitaoka, Masamune, Gentoku, and Gai were mentioned in the Epstein Files
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https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/2017296782590669046
It's Form Change Friday!
"Celebrating it's 21st anniversary (January 30th, 2005), it's Kamen Rider Hibiki in his Armed Kurenai Form!
In this form, Hibiki doubles his strength, and gains access to fiery attacks like the Ongekiha Kishinkakusei!"
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https://twitter.com/oricon/status/2017468920916222082
"Hiroki Iijima, on his last calendar of his 20s: “I wanted to leave that behind”
The thing he wants to challenge himself with at 30: “Golf”
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https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/2017206171128521025
"Today, January 30th, commemorates the 26th anniversary of Kamen Rider KUUGA!
To honor the legend, the international leg of the “Kamen Rider Kuuga 25th Exhibition” has been officially confirmed!
The 2026 Asia Tour will begin in Hong Kong as its first venue.
This exhibition allows visitors to look back on the world and journey of Kamen Rider Kuuga,
and to experience the legacy of the series."
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>>23731501
Fake News.
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I can accept when an upgrade looks worse than it's previous iteration but my problem comes when there's not really a good reason given for needing an a second step. Primitive to Elemental is probably my favorite version of two-step upgrade were as Barid to Volcano is my least favorite
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New Shin Kamen Rider Prologue merch
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Yet to be officially comfirmed but according to people who have visited the restaurant ran by Amazon's actor Toru Okaza had a Urinary Tract Infection, had to get his kidney removed and is set to be discharged from the hospital in February
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Not really interesting since I don't think we'll get any new behind the scenes info of Gavv from this but the actors of Shouma and Hanto plus Fujioka's son are going to be on a con in Thailand, is this the first Fujioka's son is in a con like this?
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Yo! Kamen Rider Zeztz 18 - 19, Eins with Girls Remix and Sister 18 are now on the Reiwa Rider Drive(r)
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>>23732221
Also doing a bit of clean up in the viewer.
All of Outsiders is now using the Anon Subs and the Ex-Aid Presidents episodes have been added to the folder.
OOOs 10th is getting an actual viewable 1080p version.
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Garou Cafe THOR
100-1 Sashiki, Ashikita, Ashikita District, Kumamoto 869-5441
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Today's endcard of Tojima Wants to Be a Kamen Rider was done by the artist of Inoue's Kuuga's manga Yokoshima Hitoshi
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How strong is G3-X actually? Could he handle any monsters from other rider shows?
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curbstomps /ourjobber/ with ease
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So about Tojima Wants to be Kamen Rider, is there some thematic point or something that the first two monsters from the still alive after nearly twenty episodes when they were just one episode wonders in the original show?
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I don't think it's really a theme but part of it is that they aren't actual Kamen Riders so obviously it's harder to take down monsters, and part of it is that due to being the first monsters they're well remembered which is why there are so many references to them in other Rider shows.
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>Lord Invoker only says name of inserted legend rider while playing a generic sound
Pic related is still the king of non-main rider belts for legend sounds huh
Final Form sounds are always cool. Just a same Builds legend rider item assortment is fucking terrible. Having fullbottles meant to pair with existing bottles was really cool though.
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Kinda shocking how they went the obvious route of denliner ressha but no Wizard Sentai Ring. Wish they had more crossovers between toys like that instead of rider hogging it all. Zenakaiger's Rider Gears were really cool.
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honestly im more shocked it took so long. Though I'm even more shocked there's STILL no alternative belt csm when they teased it years back.
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Send him Mogura's and wish him well.
>>23731225
It's so insane how much more I like every other alternative final form of Zero One except Zero Two. I almost think even Takahashi hated it too given how little screentime it had.
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Only flatties can wear this belt...
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also since im on the topic it's really fucked up Evol could've been the first Dinosaur rider before Revice. The sound for it was really cool.
https://youtu.be/KX2Gw9FgBEE?si=Oj_b-oSHiCSdFXGv
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huh, can see more details with that faceplate. Wish they made Esprim and Paradigm covers too, I really like purple and I seethe that the only lead purple we have is Gavv whose belt is decidedly Red. I still don't like the Zezts driver. I'm not sure if the transparent plastic is meant to be 'dream-like' but I think the Fourze and Ghost drivers both pulled out the transparent plastic a lot better, doesn'tt help that every other belt in the show is a solid color. I also wish they didn't make the strap light up. The other belts in the line are more aesthetically pleasing though I will dock the Lord Invoker some points for having 4 LED's in the main body as opposed to Zezts' 6.
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ah, right. Forgot about that.
Funny too, since Power to Tearer is one of my favorite rider inserts. Really like the harsh guitar, makes me wish modern rider had form themes again so I could hear berserk form theme songs. OOO in general just had really good inserts, Shu Watanabe has really good vocals.
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Riders end up having too many forms that barely get used to justify it, most likely.
Also I would assume that given the way that Sentai and [more recent] Rider have handled songs that they must be seeing better numbers using songs that are "suited for end credits" for lack of a better classification.
Though there's all this stirring towards "song battle" growing as a subgenre with Idol Precure and most of the stuff Elements Garden has been associated with recently so I could see that worked into a motif.
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It's Lord Five and Six Time!!
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is this nightmare voiced by secchan
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He’s against 2 Lords at once, so yeah jobbing is more understandable
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How was the 20th case?
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Inserts in general have gone way down. It took them like what 6 years to release timeless blue from Ghost's blu-ray series? Especially ones done by actors. When they did play this song as an insert during Route Stomach I nearly spit my drink.
https://youtu.be/9W6E9u-RDuY?si=Pka3tpXs3j2POmG_
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Pretty good, but I felt that the comedy scenes with the butterfly nightmares dragged a bit
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Ngl this height difference is very erotic.
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When people talk about G3 being a jobber, they're specifically talking about G3, not G3-X and that's even a plot point. G3-X has to work a little harder than the Agitos/Gills, but he keeps up well enough.
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Are the other two getting figures besides the So-dos?
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https://twitter.com/zeztz7toei/status/2017757337868767633
"Promote“ZEZTZ”to the world."
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Lord 5 is half as powerful as Nox stat-wise
But they need to shill new shiny toys
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Rina Onuki is so tall, slender and erotic.
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THIS WEEK ON SUPER HERO TIME
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He still had access to GS-03.
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So what did we think of her storyline
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>>23733002
I thought it was kinda weird. She didn't really do much until the end, didn't really defeat Fatale without help from Nadeshiko, and Fujioka's daughter is cute but she was written like an idiot to look all cutesy. I feel like it would've been better if the Girls Remix didn't take up 2/3 of the special.
Hopefully there can be a solo Eins special or maybe even a TTFC miniseries so she can do more.
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I find it interesting that despite claims of Uchida unable to write a female Rider, they give him the debut work for Eins. And it didn't really suck. It still has his issues of "I have the opener and ending down, but the middle that connects them is a little weak" Hell, Girls Remix was made by him. So I actually have no idea why they had to call in Akiko Inoue to take over the female aspect when it seems to be something he enjoys. He even wrote a stageplay for an all female cast that had Lachesis in the starring role. There's something off about this overall situation here.
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Weird that we didn't get art two weeks ago since the Nightmare had two expressions
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>>23729714
I really don't like Orderm and Catastrom. They just feel like random shapes without any clear theming.
So weird coming off of gavv, where Over/Master is the only form where it felt like they were just random shapes
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>>23733079
I think Zeztz is the modern Rider season with the least concrete motif, somehow feeling less concrete than Gotchard and Geats which were also for the most part just random stuff, even with the hidden meanings of the main 4 forms they don't really relate to dreams and judging from interviews with the staff the form powers seems to just have been chosen based on the action
The only way their forms relate to dreams so far is the illusion caused by Zeztz's helmet and some really vague Z shapes
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>>23733079
Personally I think Zeztz overall is honestly quite average in most catagories, but in a different way to Gotchard. It might be because the production is being made with the thought that a majority of the world can see it for the first time, but I don't know.
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>>23733103
I think it's a mix of that and the producer's priorities.
He wanted Zeztz to look like Ichigo due to it being the first season, wanted the 4 main forms to look the same and only though from an action perspective rather than motif due he wanting an approach to forms similar to Kuuga and then he picked the first design that Bandai proposed. So maybe Bandai thought that the west like the suits to be very visually cohesive so they wanted other Riders and Pseudo-Riders to also feel similar to Zeztz and because the restriction of the main form being an Ichigo lookalike and the vagueness of dreams they just gave up on motifs but also decided to be abstract rather than tangential.
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Honestly I think you'd be surprised how many american sitcoms have interestingly sized fanbases over there, usually because they either aired with subtitles or they actually dubbed the show. Like for example they have semi-sizable fanbases for King of the Hill and South Park over there.
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He's bigger than his suit actor....but the suits aren't actually suits right? They become the nightmare inside the Capsem?
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Kuuga 25th anniversary exhibition getting a blu-ray featuring a documentary along with the audio guide, and interviews with cast and crew.
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The latest episode script was under a tentative title, wonder if this is a thing for actors playing a minor character or that Zeztz was not the final name during that stage of filming (doubt it)
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Watching the newest Zeztz, honestly? If they ever decide to do another Video Game Rider I wouldn't mind it being akin to this. Something like there's a Digital Realm that's threatening reality, people are getting sucked in. Main Rider gets Isekai'd and put in the "Hero" Role, other riders take on other jobs like Mage, Black Belt.
Could even do the Final Fantasy thing where Power Ups are Job Upgrades.
Fighter -> Warrior -> Knight -> Hero
Mage -> Wizard
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>>23733103
The generational uglification effect of the MCU to superhero design needs to be studied.
I hate the way it's leaking into Rider.
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But can he beat Batman?
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>>23733079
>Over/Master is the only form where it felt like they were just random shapes
Over is super punching gummy and Master is just bigger popping gummy.
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Why didn't they just keep him as Birth?
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>>23733582
Cause Gotou was always planned to be the primary user but Takebe fell to fan demands and requested to extend Date's tenure. We don't know when exactly Date was supposed to exit the show, but it was heavily delayed
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>>23733444
Stop responding to yourself
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>>23733741
Shows and esthetics like Den-O, Ryuki and Zi-O didn't become the new norm in spite of being successful, at most Ryuki influenced how Bandai did toys but that's it
Why would Zeztz become a norm even if successful when the staff itself stated since before the show aired that it's not supposed to become a norm?
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>>23733498
>Over is super punching gummy
and yet it is orange. Should've had bigger boots and make Master into a sky blue Punching Gummy form. I gotta be honest having dual forms for a final form gimmick is a terrible idea. It works for anything below becasue you almost never see those forms post-series and now you have these 2 competing for post series screen time. I get what that other anon meant about random shapes though, the item is a candy jar but they just look like Gummy upgrades, Slash had a more noticeable candy motif.
>>23733582
idk, Date-san probably had to go back for rescue or somethin'. Dual births was really cool though, and that duet insert. For OOO 10th they should've made a third Birth instead of Birth X. In fact just keep making Births into an army of Births.
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>>23733753
But Ryuki and Den-O did become the new norm. And Zi-O was just carrying over aspects present in previous successful Heisei Phase 2 shows, it brought nothing new to the table.
>Why would Zeztz become a norm even if successful
Because that's what happens when a show becomes succesful, it gets replicated by others in the future.
>when the staff itself stated since before the show aired that it's not supposed to become a norm?
You're twisting the meaning of that statement to "it will never be the norm no matter what happens", when Yanaka basically just said all creative decisions will be up to the next show's staff. But it's been proven time and time again that staffs tend to emulate what has been successful before, that's one of the reasons why Yanaka picked Takahashi despite Zeztz being his first Rider show and never working with the guy before, it was just a no-brainer.
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>make Master into a sky blue Punching Gummy form
No, that's a terrible idea.
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I remember everyone hating this suit when the movie came out, do we still hate it?
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>>23733857
Back then I think people just really hated Den-O suits and I still don't understand why. G Den-O fulfilles a very specific niche I've been looking for of police themed riders who are black and white with siren lightss on them. The fact that not a single other police themed suit in the franchise does not fit this aesthetic I crave drives me nuts because I think suits with siren lights on them look really cool.
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IWAE
SACHIKA GRAVURE IS FOREVER A THING NOW
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>>23733819
There was a high rate of schizos that came here with Zero-One, combine that with the two insane shitposters that arrived with Gaim and Ghost respectively, plus 4chan deciding to remove the poster count and now it's really difficult to discuss toku here, it sucks.
From what I've gathered out of the normal anons that finished these shows most of them like Saber and Gavv, hate Revice and Gotchard and are mixed about the rest, but still a lot of normal anons dropped Saber early and I really cannot blame them, the start sucks balls.
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I don't know how to describe this but Todorokis actor doesn't look like a main character kamen rider actor. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, /krg/ has much more love for Saber than pretty much anywhere else. So, you really shouldn't be blaming "schizos" for the hate it still gets here.
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>>23733946
>Design-wise, they really didn't
They did, from Den-O onwards they started doing more goofy designs with goofier motifs, it's the prime example of what Shirakura calls a good memorable design. Ryuki started gimmick items and the trend of having more than 4 Riders who all share the same base design, on top of experimenting with less conventional Rider designs.
You're just a retarded faggot who wants to delude himself into believing Zeztz becoming a new norm would've never ever become a possibility under any circumstance, even if everyone loved it.
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>>23733941
>Yeah, /krg/ has much more love for Saber than pretty much anywhere else
China has much more love for Saber than anywhere else, and not only do they vastly outnumber fags like you, they also have generally better taste than any other place including this one.
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>They did, from Den-O onwards they started doing more goofy designs with goofier motifs
Kiva? Decade? W? OOO? Like the first "goofier" design afterwards was freaking Fourze, many years after Den-O.
Den-O contributed, but only in the sense that the show's lighter atmosphere after several years led to goofier designs after several years.
>Ryuki started gimmick items
There is more than half a decade between Ryuki and W though. You did have Blade and Decade using cards too in the period
>and the trend of having more than 4 Riders who all share the same base design
Faiz and Blade were the shows following Ryuki and didn't follow that though. Hibiki and Kabuto did it, but then you had to wait half a decade for Gaim (which actually had several different base designs split among the cast).
Also, you're ignoring the elephant in the room - Zi-O's. Its success didn't drive Bandai into a frenzy where every show was based on past Rider gimmicks.
Obviously, if a show is a success they might try something with elements from it afterwards, but it never really seems to really "take" over the show's format. The one exception to this probably was W's Gaia Memories, since collectibles pretty much became required for Rider afterwards.
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>>23734017
Schizophrenia, people just want to bring the MCU as much as possible here for some reason and create the imaginary scenario that Toei wants every design to look the same
Personally my problem with Zeztz's suits is that they're too abstract feeling motifless and him being Ichigo-inspired feels repetitive when Gotchard and Zero-One are too
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>>23734017
That actually surprised me too. Way more people than I expected here seem to love bulky armored Riders.
That said, I do wish Zeztz' suits had chest armor/padding like the Zeztz' base form promo suit. The stunt suits and all base form changes, for the chest, are basically just stickers on the generic Zeztz's bodysuit shape, rather than having any kind of unique chest plate.
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>>23734023
People like both type of designs, it's really dependant on the execution of it
I want more sleek suits but Zeztz's way of doing it is weird, not bad but not really the way I wanted, hell due to Zeztz not being able to turn his head his suit feels clunkier than some armored suits
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>>23734015
>Kiva? Decade? W? OOO?
All of those are Riders that either have goofy motifs (Kiva, Decade and W) or integrate common motifs in weird and imaginative ways for the sake of the gimmick action figure line (OOO), which I assure you wouldn't have happened if Den-O hadn't blown up like it did.
>There is more than half a decade between Ryuki and W though. You did have Blade and Decade using cards too in the period
You forgot Hibiki and Kiva like the retard you are.
>Faiz and Blade were the shows following Ryuki and didn't follow that though
They did though, their Rider designs are much more uniform than Agito's.
>Hibiki and Kabuto did it, but then you had to wait half a decade for Gaim
Den-O's Riders and Decade & Diend are almost complete repaints of each other, save for the chest armor, shoulderpads and helmets, retard.
>(which actually had several different base designs split among the cast).
They're the same base design but with slight alterations, retard.
>Also, you're ignoring the elephant in the room - Zi-O's. Its success didn't drive Bandai into a frenzy where every show was based on past Rider gimmicks.
Because they're already doing Rider gimmicks every year anyways, a trend they've consistently kept since 2009. They did jump the gun and make another anniversary Rider (Revice) just 3 years after Zi-O, which didn't perform nearly as well as they expected, and then they created Legend for Gotchard.
>but it never really seems to really "take" over the show's format.
These design trends from successful shows have lasted over 20 years because they're successful. If Zeztz was successful and the shows that replicated it were successful, it would keep being replicated, I don't know what's so hard to understand about this, you stupid deluded nigger.
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>>23734055
>Den-O's Riders and Decade & Diend are almost complete repaints of each other, save for the chest armor, shoulderpads and helmets, retard.
Forgot to mention Wizard as well (yes, even Beast shares his base design with Wizard, believe it or not). Hell, every Rider in W except Accel looks nearly the same as W.
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>>23734042
That's not the norm for Kamen Rider and it feels less creative, even during Showa Skyrider and Black were the result of a hiatus and Black RX was a sequel
With Reiwa there's really no excuse for having 3 Ichigo inspired protagonists so close to each other
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>>23734055
>All of those are Riders that either have goofy motifs (Kiva, Decade and W)
I just can't agree with that. W specifically had them going out of their way to basically make a basic "Kamen Rider" as the motif (and referencing Rider 1 with its base form colors, which they had to fight Bandai for it). It's the opposite of a goofy or out there motif. And this Rider performed better than Den-O in all metrics, and yet you didn't see Rider 1 references taking over.
>You forgot Hibiki and Kiva like the retard you are.
How does Hibiki have collectibles? The freaking disc animals? Those are more predecessors to the gadget toys.
Kiva had the Fuestles, but they were very few of those and basically part of the base belt, or other items, they weren't actually a line of separate items sold by themselves.
>They did though, their Rider designs are much more uniform than Agito's.
With Agito they set out from the start to make the Riders distinct though. My main point is that they aren't just aping Ryuki's formula there.
>Den-O's Riders and Decade & Diend are almost complete repaints of each other, save for the chest armor, shoulderpads and helmets, retard.
Yeah, but those only had two Riders, not 4+ like in Ryuki.
>They're the same base design but with slight alterations, retard.
No, they have a few similarities, but otherwise are completely different. Gaim and Baron share a bit of the lower leg armor and the gloves/bracelet, but outside of that their undersuits are completely different. Now obviously, each one then had other Riders similar to them.
>Because they're already doing Rider gimmicks every year anyways, a trend they've consistently kept since 2009.
Anniversary gimmicks without show promotion clearly isn't the same as Zi-O though. Like you say, they had been doing this for years already.
And Revice is really a much more toned down version of this, where the forms aren't even named after the past Riders even if the design references are obvious.
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>Saber 38
People should pay more attention to the first quarter, the pay-offs to things subtly set up in those episodes become even better.
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>Daiji and Kagero becomes Revice
>Hiromi is Kamen Rider Evil
>Sakura is Demons
>Chameleon kills Ikki's parents
>Orteca kills Julio, Aguilera and Hiromi
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>W specifically had them going out of their way to basically make a basic "Kamen Rider" as the motif (and referencing Rider 1 with its base form colors, which they had to fight Bandai for it). It's the opposite of a goofy or out there motif
W's main motif is the Alphabet. The whole suit has Ws all over it, even the antennae and the belt are shaped like Ws.
>And this Rider performed better than Den-O in all metrics
Only in toy sales, Den-O is still Japan's #1 to this day. And toy-wise, W is just bringing Ryuki's and Den-O's toylines together, with the new addition of mix-n-match forms that have become common in the years after it.
>How does Hibiki have collectibles? The freaking disc animals?
Those are collectibles, they work with the Henshin toy, newfag. They released a brunch of sets for them, including a special one for the movie.
>Kiva had the Fuestles, but they were very few of those and basically part of the base belt, or other items, they weren't actually a line of separate items sold by themselves.
You're moving the goalpost, you still needed to get all the toys if you wanted to unlock all the sounds in the Kiva and Ixa belts, just buying those belts themselves wasn't enough.
>Yeah, but those only had two Riders
Den-O has 3+ Riders.
>No, they have a few similarities, but otherwise are completely different. Gaim and Baron share a bit of the lower leg armor and the gloves/bracelet, but outside of that their undersuits are completely different
No, they're mostly the same but with a few differences. The only differences in Baron's are a few extra armor pieces in the thighs and elbows, somewhat different forearm armor, and the torso and outer thighs having a chainmail pattern instead of a fishnet one, but even the outline of the torso and outer thigh section remains the same, the gloves are the same, the cuffs on both sets of limbs are the same, the kneepads are the same, the shin armor is the same and the shoes are the same.
You're blind or coping.
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>>23734127
The fansubs are just scrubs of the official subs, they change a few things but are mostly the same. I'd say you should watch the official subs if you wanna watch on the day of broadcast, download the scrubs if you want to save the episodes on your drive.
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>>23734114
>W's main motif is the Alphabet. The whole suit has Ws all over it, even the antennae and the belt are shaped like Ws.
So, you're some new anon? The summary about W's behind the scenes production used to be posted fairly often here.
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/20594649/#q20596915
web archive link for the raw source since the old links are all broken by now.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190111021313/https://reggiocomics.blogsp ot.com/2010/10/scans-kamen-rider-do uble-character.html
The main motif IS "Kamen Rider". They also specifically talk in the full article about how they didn't want something like a lion or car motif for the main form since it'd deviate from their concept of a "Kamen Riderish" Rider.
The Gaia Memories were also implemented due to Go-onger's success rather than anything Rider related.
>Only in toy sales
Higher tv ratings. Higher movie box office. Higher toy sales like you say.
Also, not quoting here, but I still think it makes more sense to associate Hibiki's disc animals with the gadget toys rather than collectibles.
>Den-O has 3+ Riders.
The show/main toyline only had 2 Riders.
>No, they're mostly the same but with a few differences.
You basically just reworded what I said replacing "lower leg armor" with three separate terms. As for the chins, those were just kind of irregular. Ryugen and Knuckle had differently shaped ones.
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>>23734155
>They also specifically talk in the full article about how they didn't want something like a lion or car motif for the main form since it'd deviate from their concept of a "Kamen Riderish" Rider.
They still went with something fairly outlandish by basing all the designs around English alphabet letters. Letters are not a normal conventional motif. The mix-n-match gimmick of the forms also stuck around.
>The show/main toyline only had 2 Riders
You're showing off your newfaggotry, Ga-Oh's stuff was retail, movie Riders didn't become exclusively P-Bandai until Build. Ga-Oh also appeared in the show, even if it was just to shill the movie.
>You basically just reworded what I said replacing "lower leg armor" with three separate terms
No, I didn't. You said they're almost completely different except for a few similarities, I'm saying they're almost the same except for a few differences.
>As for the chins, those were just kind of irregular. Ryugen and Knuckle had differently shaped ones.
I didn't say chins, I said shins. And theirs are the exact same shape as everyone else's unless you're a blind retard. The only one who stands out in that regard is Bravo because his shins are spiked, but they're still practically the same mold save for the spikes.
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>>23734174
>They still went with something fairly outlandish by basing all the designs around English alphabet letters. Letters are not a normal conventional motif. The mix-n-match gimmick of the forms also stuck around.
Their intentions there are spelled out as going a Kamen Riderish motif where whatever they added wouldn't be image to overshadow that it was a Kamen Riderish Kamen Rider. Yeah, they have W patterns into the suit if you look closely, but that's exactly the kind of thing that won't get in the way of the overall Rider 1 reference, not a goofy eye catching motif that distract from the classic Kamen Riderish elements of the design.
>You're showing off your newfaggotry, Ga-Oh's stuff was retail, movie Riders didn't become exclusively P-Bandai until Build. Ga-Oh also appeared in the show, even if it was just to shill the movie.
I thought I remembered Gaoh not even getting a belt released, but looking at it now, it's because it was bundled with the Wing Form belt, but it did have one. Still, just 3 Riders.
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>>23734017
Maybe people here really hate Hibiki and Ultraman?
My issue with Zeztz's designs is that none of them account for the belt being on the chest instead of the waist. The belt isn't used as a center piece and actually interrupts the upper body designs.
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>>23734311
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The belt even makes the Typhoon sound when you insert the Card that's literally called Hopper1, you mongoloid retard.
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I always assumed that Date was going to die as a betrayal of the Greeed deal, and Gotou was going to take over to show the correct desire for the secondary.
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>>23732292
G3 was designed for Unknown Lifeforms.
G3-X was designed for The Lords.
It might need some suit modifications to deal with something like Bugsters, but he should be able to handle the majority without much problem.
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>Zeztz's current mission is to defeat the Maou
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Date was supposed to turn into a Greeed and then get defeated/killed by Gotou after he sided with the Greeeds, but that was changed after the earthquake to keep things more lighthearted.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BB%AE%E9%9D%A2%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3% 83%80%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3 %82%BA/OOO
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