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Hyperlion P-Bandai now available
https:///www.twitter.com/p_bandai/status/2038828676146761847
DD news:
Shin Getter 1/Getter Noir 1/Getter Arc/Getter 1 (Devolution) - Dynamic Getter Formation
https://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/2038541755289571376
Burn Bravern - Burn Brave Knuckle
https://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/2038544258572206418
'Lui Hawkeye' - Vincent Hawk
https://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/2036369931231699375
Gauma - Dynazenon
https://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/2036367418080239625
Masaki Andoh - Cybuster (Possession)
https://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/2036372448061341763
For discussion on SRC (SRW fangame program), please join the dedicated Discord
https://discord.gg/WrV2AhG
If you need help with any game try checking Akurasu for help (links for other resources also here):
https://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars
(add ?action=purge to the end of the url in case of a blank page)
SRW Japanese Wiki
https://srw.wiki.cre.jp/
Booru
https://daitrombe.booru.org/
Game Availability in English:
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Music Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LzxYHqDY
Bring Stabity's Quick Guide to Katakana:
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Game Modification Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/k722v36x
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If you wish to help with the SRW fan game they are always in need of more musicians and artists
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Future DD material.
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These are the world wide top 3 Gundams. Say anything about them.
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Who is the better OG MC?
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>>23805663
Code Geass's mascot did a Rayearth reference
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>>23805766
Kyoukai Senki for the next game.
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Geass Roze for the next game
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>>23805766
Why is Duke so bad at like... everything
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What would be the most "unpredicted or WTF" debut of a retro and/or modern /m/ related series for the next console game?
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KO Century Beast
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>>23805781
>Third Stage never
I miss Gonzo.
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>>23805780
Some old forgotten OVA like Z-Mind, Sailor Victory, Battle Skipper or Dinagiga. Anyone remember any of that shit?
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That is one small Getter 1
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>Vandread
That's up there with stuff like Granzort for series that people would like to see in SRW eventually. Even Kannazuki no Miko is also pretty high up on the list.
You'd have to reach for some really esoteric stuff.
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Selena might get shipped with another OG character from a different game when we get OG Final, which will include more characters from later games. You choose who gets shipped with her among later characters.
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Happy 65th birthday, Naoko Matsui.
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Bestgirl
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when will they return?
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Which OG MC has the best Mech?
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>>23805914
Ibis a cute.
CUTE!
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>>23806091
Not that anon, but it's not that odd? It'd be just one unit. 30 had the Hi-Nu and MJP movie as DLC too, so upgrades as DLC just happened last game. That said, Wing would have to be the Snow White Prelude, not the actual Snow White.
And I guess it's more likely they could go with the Cloaked Custom since it's the newer design?
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Which OG MC has the best Upgrade Mech?
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>Dangaizer 3
>Cyberbots/Armored Warriors
>ExoSquad
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Ibis is love
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>>23806094
An honest to goodness valalpa image (c2007)????
WITNESSED
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>>23806089
>gee Axel, how come Bamco lets you have TWO best OG robots?
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Not relevant
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>>23806301
But he doesn't use Angelg.
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>>23806315
Calm down lady
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>>23806153
Not, the anniversary video and manga have the "Cloaked Customs" which are pre-Frozen Teardrop variations. The actual Frozen Teardrop designs are still unrevealed.
That said, looking into it, the kit for Cloaked Custom Wing Zero will be released this month, so I guess there is really a chance it could make it into Y DLC if the coordinate the reveals.
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>cool design
>useless unit
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>>23806337
We get it, you're horny for Ibis
>>23806341
Yeah, all six of them
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>>23806314
Based.
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>>23806350
One day we'll get an Angelg model kit, and then I can paint it so I can have an Angelg Noir toy
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>>23806360
Katina uses the Gigan better than the intended pilot since she tends to get all of the things needed to not make it into a fat brick.
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>>23806346
We get it, you're a monumental new fag and underage faggot. Shut up and fuck off.
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>>23806328
They should just make a new Wing movie so Greenriver can be Heero in something animated again. Just set it, like, 5 years after Endless Waltz and get the the gang back together for one last hurrah, make some new rival that has a new Zero System and you've got something SRW can use for the next 20 years.
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The big problem Wing has always had in SRW with EW being the default is it doesn't lend itself well to the SRW format. The only people to fight are Wufei and nameless grunts, so its led to eternal memes about Wufei and the need for it to basically ride other plots most of the time.
Make something for Wing like Seed just got with Freedom and it can do a lot more if Heero gets a new foil or rival, and Wufei doesn't need to be the punching bag anymore. Also because even if people wanna see the suits from it, no one in their right mind actually wants Frozen Teardrop plot.
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>debuts as chinabot's default pilot
>gets china boy's voice
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1. Her size is just fine, stop being weird about it
2. If you want us to post more Ibis pics you can just ask, this isn't /v/
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>>23806565
Oh another one of these things? Typically when a game comes out there's a slew of these. I have some from OG I have some from Z And I think I have one from Impact?
They are either keychains or standalone figures like that usually made of some rubber-ish material.
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>accel
>literally cannot be hit ever
>nothing in the game can outrange her
>ammo based bread and butter attack with 16 shots
>cheap as fuck final attack
>direct attack for when boss needs to die
She's pretty good.
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The middle one is a widow, and her now dead husband actually does some significant plot contribution before dying off-screen by vague chronic sickness, the blue-haired one was the little sister for said dead guy and had a superiority-inferiority complex hate for redhead over being chosen to pilot a MC robot and was a enemy for a bit before making up and combining into pic. This is tldr version of their plot, does that fit any of whatever the fuck you are talking about?
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btw duel has been spamming his false flag thread on other boards to raise a panic over the site supposedly dying, all of this because a mod decided to take action about his trolling here and deleted all his shit lmao
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KAMILLE WAIT HE'S SORRY
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Is there a new Janny or something?
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I'd just use the Glory of the Losers manga. It's retelling the tv series yes but the katoki versions of the Gundams are completely different designs with new weapons, even the upgrades have extra bits their EW OVA versions didn't. For SRW it basically would be a new series.
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Honestly, I'd be down since if it means we get the equipment packs like Igel, Armadillo and Rousette.
You could even toss in Epyon's and Wing Zero's extra parts and having both Wing EW and Tallgeese as secrets.
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>>23807412
There's also the story changes like making it incredibly explicit that Heero and Zechs are both in on the whole White Fang thing
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Chicago has been achieved
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>Rousette
It's spelled Rosette.
The rosette is a common flower motif from antiquity.
Notably - used commonly in places like ancient Greece to decorate funeral steles.
Their variant of grave headstones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosette_(design)
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Why the fuck does he type like he's some kind of radio host with an audience? Is it autism? I'm honestly a bit scared that this guy is living in a country with easy access to firearms, he is clearly not well in the head and could snap at any time.
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https://twitter.com/gundam_info/status/2040701164191117386
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>>23806599
Yeah that's who I'm talking about. I keep forgetting the name of her unit. She's got like this princess snotty bitch music and ax all stuck up. It's great in comparison to Tusk.
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>>23807541
I always thought it was supposed to be a naming reference to Egyptain fruit bat, the Rousette, given Deathscythe's final appearance with the custom having the bat-like Active Cloak design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_fruit_bat
Neat that it can reference cultural headstones as well.
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>Average SRW Neo map past the early game
>Beat up a bunch of mooks
>Boss shows up, beat him/her up
>Second set of enemies appear
>Deal with them
>Major map event happens and the entire cast gets positioned
>A third set of enemies to fight show up
No wonder OE tried to break it up by making you play each individual section as its own map and encouraged you to use a different set of units for each part.
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>>23807682
Possible- would be in keeping with other adapter parts being animal references as well, e.g. Eagle and Armadillo.
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Had to look it up- and confirmed.
The original spelling is ルーセット - Ruu-se-tto
So indeed, Rousette - the fruitbat reference is the correct one.
Neat. TIL.
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>>23807435
I assumed he would of "loved" the Hi-Evolution films because they take a massive dump on Eureka Seven?
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If he had a firearm he would turn it on himself already, he's too fat to even leave his house
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You only need 6 medium lasers to destroy the entire universe
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>>23806089
This guy has the best OG mech
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speaking of, isn't it fucked up it's been 13 years since UX came out, and there's STILL no proper upload of the final boss theme?
everyone just uploads the same gamerip by someone who thought there's only 2 cycles(verses?) before it loops but there's a 3rd one where the instrumentation changes slightly and caps off with a slow orchestral segment of UX's main leitmotif and THEN it loops
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Might makes right.
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This nigga
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>>23807853
They through him in 30 because he's not getting anything else.
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The original.
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even using that excuse there were 2 attacks from the mobile game they didn't use
his finisher in 30 is his SSR2, his SSR1 is MIA, and even then his SSR2 awkwardly ends halfway through the actual DD anmation
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>>23808031
I'm that is because those were the only ones made when they started making him for 30 and didn't expand to any attacks made for DD that came out while they were making him for 30. Like how WFM is only up to ep 9 in Y.
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>This guy has the best OG mech after you play through his game three times
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>>23808008
Forte's hair color is wrong, but alas I must go goon.
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>one of the most OP mechs in the show
And yet she was getting her ass whipped by Shinn.
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Devil Uratalia.
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It's actually a beam boomerang that cuts that arm. So, it's still weak to beam saber type weapons, just reflects beam projectiles.
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bio injection has been achieved
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>>23807853
I want him to appear in OG and fuck up Isurugi heavy industries. Doesn't even have to be as pilot. Just him tearing into Mitsuko until nothing is left would already be enough.
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There were three choices: the Granteed, the Bellzelute, and the Coustwell. It is kinda mixed, but Calvina chose her absolute best machine in OG, and the same game made Granteed cooler to suit Touya the best. I really want the J MC machines as model kits ever since Kotobukiya made the Raftclans kits.
By the way, has the Full Armed Huckebein showed off its Wing Thrusters' MTDMs yet, or they don't put those in there like usual?
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Point: If Kira actually died against Shinn the first time, he would have killed Cagalli then and there, and Athrun will go completely berserk, outright killing Shinn near the end of the show. And if Cagalli died, then Orb will be razed to the ground without contest, losing the Archangel's last backers and become vengeful against ZAFT, who are considered irredeemable because of Orb's destruction.
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>>23808344
barrier pierce doesn't go through ANY phase shift in Alpha 3 or any mainline game
it counts as special defense and not a barrier
you can technically punch through it with Direct Hit/Pierce V and Y but there's no enemies with phase shift in those games
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Local Gundam (angry) goes awoothis isn't even with full upgrades, jesus christ
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Happy 73rd birthday, Keiko Han.
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I'm starting to see overlap with /a/ schizo posting here. It was already bad enough that you retards did the same Yuri spam ACK tier shit when people talked shit about Gwitch. Now I'm seeing "the guy who talks about him is just as bad" posts.
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It feels like every board needs to have their own shitposters nowadays.Also, caring about Y and completely ignoring Iron Saga Vs is probably one of the reason why you guys get assaulted by shitposters over and over again
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>giving a shit about "people" on reddit and discord
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>people can't really bitch at you as long as everything works.
you'd be surprised
though in this case I probably will want to redo it. The colors are off and the Z flames already don't line up with the logo underneath
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It'll get the pilot finishers next game right?
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>awesome design (even Getter-3)
>awesome attacks
>awesome music
>3 pilots
>tfw your favorite unit is DLC
Getter Devolution anime when
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I liked it, at least animation-wise it's much better than Arc. But the reaction was pretty muted when it came out. First few episodes adapt the beginning of the original manga but replacing dinosaurs with oni (not Getter G's Oni, mythological oni). Musashi is replaced with an OC monk kind of similar to Baku design-wise and called Musashibo Benkei.
Later episodes then switch between a completely original plot involving feudal Japan (some people at the time thought it was referencing some Ishikawa manga since he did lots of period drama, but although it mimics his style, it's not actually using characters from any Ishikawa manga outside of maybe the final bosses) and some stuff from the Shin Getter manga.
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Anon, G-witch is literally the most controversial Gundam. Mostly because you can't even talk about it flaws without people spamming yuri shit or culture war bullshit. Hell, the official Twitter for it had to close replies because of all the Yurifags seething
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Can you miss out on DLC missions in 30/Y if you only get the DLCs late into the game? I'm almost done with 30 and eager to start Y, but I don't have time for two playthroughs to accomodate for the unreleased DLC3.
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>>23808781For some reason Chinks and their dickriders REALLY hate it when you're talking about a Japanese products over their products on the videogame sector
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Nope, all DLC stages are available all the time.
Sometimes in both 30 and Y dialogue is heavily changed depending on the point you're doing the missions though. A few of the "diversity" pack DLC missions (the ones without new units) in both 30 and Y are tied to specific moments of the story, and if you them only afterwards, you get a new introductory scene that frames the entire stage as a flashback.
The ones with new units are always in the present, but can have some heavy dialogue changes depending on when you do them. The DLC 2 pack in Y especially has some pretty big dialogue changes in the Noir and Jeeg stages since they tie directly into parts of the main story.
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>>23809064
In both of those games the DLC missions can't be lost forever
At most they may disappear together with every other mission during a stage that must immediately follow another (like with the ending stretch), but they reappear after it
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Here, now it's relevant.
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Oh my God he's serious. This dumbass wasn't around when SEED was still new, when 00 added aliens, when AGE basically broke the guarantee of near-50 episode series because of how bad it was.
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Yeah, Freyja from Macross Delta, part of the idol group Walkure. In SRWY, Miorine becomes Walkure's producer and Suletta ends up helping them and becoming close friends with Freyja. They even tease her about needing to improve her dance to join the group a few times.
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Endless Frontier. Which means both it and Namco X Capcom have shown up in the last place anyone would expect licensed series to show up, courtesy of Monolith Soft being the devs of those games. Though with that said, it would be nice to see in mainline.
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So, the DLC likely will be released right after the announcement. I guess they really will be waiting until the anniversary to announce this stuff.
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>>23809361
Then you have to keep waiting. We do not want them to go back to the V/X/T release schedule, as that has already proven unsustainable just by looking at T. Plus Y has hanging plot threads, including both DLC waves.
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>>23809361
The developers already said they won't go back to annual releases. I guess they could announce the game for next year though, like they did with V, but that's unlikely since it has been a while since they did that.
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I think they need to find a way to convince the Bamco higher-ups to let other companies develop for the series again to lighten the burden on the main team (that or get on the rerelease train and drop games on modern consoles and PC)
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Think about it.
SRW spin-off games
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>>23809502
I think a possible solution to both of these issues is to put a secondary team on remaster duty to fill the empty years without new mainline SRW
Yeah there are probably many SRW games that will never see a rerelease because of a few specific series, but between the cast lists of 30 and Y we already have multiple copyright holders that show full cooperation with worldwide releases. Aside for the recent V, X, and T (they remastered fucking Berseria, the "they're too recent" excuse clearly doesn't work) I don't think the Z series has any hard to relicense series, for example, and while they're much older the classic series (especially the Complete Box and F/F Final versions) since they feature mostly Nagai, Nagahama and Tomino series. Those games could last them for years
And obviously there is OG which doesn't have this issue, so they could also remaster those games
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>>23809521
>(they remastered fucking Berseria, the "they're too recent" excuse clearly doesn't work
Berseria R happened because they were catering to Japan who did not get the PC release we did. This of course failed because a lot of players would rather they remake the older games instead of just focusing exclusively on the PS3/PS4 era.
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Playable Godzilla or Getter Emperor at long last.
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>>23809320
Any hope for the DLC units to get extra attacks or forms? I'd be down for Big O getting some of his season 2 weapons.
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>>23809558
Double will also get Cyclone Joker Xtream
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>>23809556
It seems unlikely, at least as a paid DLC, as the other anon said, DLC that requires a past DLC doesn't seem like a good idea. The only case of something close was the DLC added in 30 that gave SRX a new move, and my memory is foggy but I believe both SRX and that move in the EP were free updates. (Big O may or may not need extra licensing to get those attacks, which would be another wrinkle in the issue, if I recall past times where 2nd Season was needed to be listed separately.)
>>23809544
Unlikely to be playable, but I wouldn't be surprised if an EP for Y brought Godzilla back for one more boss fight with even more jacked stats, similar to some boss fights 30 did.
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>>23809594
So far, nope. DLC1 and DLC2 have their own plotlines and villains that are mostly resolved, but tease some kind of continuation at the end.
We will probably get a story continuation and new ending with a DLC or update announced in the anniversary though.
For 30, the actual story ending was completely free, but I'm not sure they will do that again since Y didn't leave things on a cliffhanger unlike base 30.
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The move wasn't a free update, but SRX itself by that point went from a pre-order bonus to a free update for everyone.
The issue this time though, is that both DLC 1 and DLC 2 end with teasers of continuations, unrelated to each other, so it does seem like they're planning some kind of extra content if you have DLC 1 and 2.
I guess the big question is if this will be tied to a DLC3 or a free update.
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>>23809445
Yeah, but both Librasta has post movement spigot-vx this time so it's kinda moot. It sucks because thematically I think Crowe abandoning Brasta's default weaponry to go all melee with swords and chest blaster works better than a typical upgrade path.
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>>23809715
>Why does Z have animations that are 10x better than Y
Because HD was a curse. Z was still in that perfect goldilocks zone where the technology to do what you wanted exists and it didn't cost your entire development budget to do one unit.
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>>23804786
that was ChrisX.
it's weird to think about how long i've known that guy.
i remember seeing a lot of his posts in a certain SRW based forum.
he in fact did blow a gasket when it came to that part in OGG and eventually got banned, man was absolutely obsessed with lamia.
weird thing to have nostalgia for, but there you go.
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>>23809698
It varies depending on the rights holder. Gundam stuff in recent games seem to list everything separately, the only exception seem to be a show and it's compilation movies which appear to be a bundle deal. Meanwhile, Nadesico's license seems to be for everything, which is why POD always seems to have stuff it shouldn't.
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Fuuto Tantei also has an odd listing, since they only list the movie but have a bunch of tv-only stuff.
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>>23810023
>Prince of Darkness
The only extra thing we get in the modern games is older Yurika in the Nergal uniform as a subpilot after the plot is over. I'm sure they had a design lying around somewhere.
If you want Gai then we need TV to be part of the castlist.
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Well shit, I slept on SP Get. I thought you're limited to 10SP per turn (it's 50 PP cheaper than SP recovery so I expected some limitation), but they really gave you 10 per enemy defeated (map excluded).
I gave it to Kallen along with propellant tank, now she's solo-ing everything.
Is this skill Saisei only?
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Except most of the same animators from the time period are still credited as working on Y. Using Z2 as a reference.
https://www.mobygames.com/game/141999/dai-2-ji-super-robot-taisen-z-sa isei-hen/credits/
https://www.mobygames.com/game/247264/super-robot-wars-y/credits/
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>>23810069
Yeah, because there was supposed to be another movie, so they'd never really do too much in the games. But then the movie didn't do too well, the staff split to other projects and then were too busy to return to Nadesico, and then years had passed already and it was too late for a Nadesico sequel.
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I have been playing V after finishing 30 and Y. Its crazy how much more I've been enjoying this game. I am aware its considered the easiest but I have been only upgrading weapon damage and making all units into glass cannons so gameplay is good. Its nice not to be showered with a million freebies at the start. I love how the bonus scenarios so far serve to give background info on events that happened prior for Crossbone/00/etc (I've only played up to 12). Nine having a convo after every mission with characters is a small thing but this extra time with the characters really helps flesh them out and make you feel more attached to them. The scenarios being designed to happen right after the one before it has made the story narrative feel very cohesive and well thought out and I feel invested in the story. I think back to 30 and Y and in comparison the narrative always felt messy and random and convoluted no matter what order I did them. I can see why they did it but for me the reading has always been half the fun for me. Also the series in this game just have much more custom BGM potential, Nadesico/Evangelion/Full Metal Panic/00 has so many great songs to throw in. I'm happy that I still have X and T to play afterwards... I just kind of wish they would go back to taking inspiration from their previous games, because right now it feels hard to go back to 30 and Y. I wonder if this is an unpopular opinion because I've heard VXT get a lot of flack but so far V has impressed me so so much compared to 30/Y.
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>>23810172
If you're having fun with V (and it does have a number of good moments, like once the Mazinger plot kicks in for instance), you'll probably enjoy T a good bit, since it follows the linear structure but also doesn't have a world set-up involving lots of alternate dimensions, something a lot of folks here were getting tired of as the justification for how half the series worked together. In T, the only series that are kinda disjointed from the rest were VOTOMs and Expelled from Paradise, and they still managed to make them fit in and connect those two to each other, at the least.
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>>23810181
That sounds super promising, thank you anon. T's roster looks fantastic to me. Another thing I forgot to mention is that I enjoy the SR points thing, it encourages me to play more aggressively and take more risk and seems to reward funneling upgrades purely into offense which compliments going glass cannon. I hope to see it come back one day
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>>23810155
Sato tried to make Nadesico into a multimedia franchise (similar to what happened to FFXV), so he kept sequel baiting and doing random shit. That failed for obvious reasons.
So the narrative of Blank of 3 Years or Mission "filling holes" is just wishful thinking.
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>>23810202
What even happens in those games anyway. I just know the Dreamcast game is where Yurika in her uniform in V and T comes from since she didn't have it in the movie and I think one girl from one episode was the villain or at least some kind of antagonist.
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>>23810181
Its the linear structure doing the heavy lifting and giving the impression of a "structured" narrative.
I say that because practically speaking, the beginning of pretty much every SRW game including Y/30 is just the cast fumbling around and getting their feet wet as they recruit the various members of the cast. Maybe 1 or 2 series will get a bit of focus so we can get an early game climax.
Its not until when you get everyone that the narrative really tightens up.
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>>23810172
30 generally had a lot of backlash here too. V is definitely seen more favorably than 30.
Y was seen more positively due to improving on 30's model like having more crossovers in each stage, while 30 often had each stage focusing its plot on a single series, and Y also adds connectivity scenes, so one stage can lead to the next one... but this doesn't work with the DLC stages.
Gameplay-wise, V doesn't have the hard mode of the later games, but to me going for SR points is funner than building up units for hard mode. 30's hardest modes also mess up the joining mission of all new units, and Y's wasn't as bad as that, but it's still an issue. And even in those modes you still power creep the enemies anyway, especially in 30 (also Y, although Y does bring a couple of end game enemies with some bite).
As for the sequels, they're basically V again, but worse, IMO. SR points aren't as well designed and both X and T have story issues compared to V. X and T both also have many new units with just 2/3 attacks.
X's plot mixes up way too many parallel worlds to the point many series lack connective tissue story-wise. It also mishandles how it adapts some stuff from Wataru, which is the series that gets the most focus in the game. You also have oddities like only giving most of the Gurren Lagann cast 3/4s into the game even though Simon, who is around from the start, is obviously better than all of them.
T just reuses reinforcements from another side way too much, (although not quite J's level). The story also kind of lacks a strong hook, aside from moving away from the parallel world set up of the last two games. Still, it's well executed initially, but then the 2nd half feels underbaked. The scenarios barely feel connected. Lots of character relationships or reveals only relevant for one stage and entire series becoming irrelevant. T is also the start of mixing CG model renders with sprites in a big way, leading to the inconsistent art style seen in 30 and Y.
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>>23810233
>30 generally had a lot of backlash here too.
Duel shitting out it 24/7 because it had "Trigger Gridman", "Worst Godzilla", and "Woke from Mercury" doesn't count as legitimate backlash
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>>23810233
When I think back to X, I think of the Buddy Complex BGM, that was a really good song. Also in retrospect its kind of funny how we had Dunbine in X but no Drake or Ciela, they really didn't do much with it at all
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>>23810233
With X it doesn't help that the routes splits for basically between Gundam/Buddy Complex and then everything else. I think I only went the Gundam/Buddy Complex route once then ignored it every other time.
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You dont have to play all the maps.
>>23810261
SRW loves doing samey route splits. T was strictly outlaws vs everyone else for example.
Hakai was SRs vs Wing/Geass/Votoms vs 00/Dancouga/Macross. Then it merged to Earth vs Space.
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>>23810172
>I wonder if this is an unpopular opinion because I've heard VXT get a lot of flack but so far V has impressed me so so much compared to 30/Y.
4chan is full of contrarians who love to show off and hate what happens to be popular, and SRW V is very popular. It's still the best modern SRW even awarded by Sony itself. EVERY damn SRW that followed is copying it in some way. Which I admit is quite annoying.
SRW Y is the first SRW after V that somehow stands out, especially for the gameplay, but I agree that narratively SRW V has a better story and in general many more memorable fanservice moments. A significant detail: SRW V, despite certainly having a lot of rework from SRW Z3, manages to feel decidedly fresh with plenty of new content and shows with their own plot, with the exception of the Gundams.
Graphically, it's also one of the last SRWs to truly maintain a consistent visual quality.
The Brave Express Might Gaine has been brought back really well and the whole Yamato carries the game especially narratively. Yeah, some people hate Cross Ange, but that was a pretty faithful debut too.
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>>23810279
>4chan loves to be contrarian
I can like V but still think that people gas it up to an annoying degree because it followed Z3 so expectations were rock bottom.
It also doesnt help that people just rehash the same talking points like the Eva/Mazinger Zero stage as if that's the only noteworthy part of the entire game.
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>>23810286
V actually has a lot of good (or ridiculous) moments. They're often never mentioned because Zero's stage is truly one of the highlight of the entire franchise.
Soji being stupidly hated by the crew for no real reason.
Athrun being sent to psycho girls island.
Tobias and Hathaway lead to a series of funny scenes, especially regarding Hathaway's future.
Tetsuya himself is fantastic in the game, and people often forget how good the opening part is with Ryoma.
I don't disagree that V had a favorable outcome and is somewhat overrated, but it's genuinely a good game.
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>>23810293
or it doesn't align with your agenda.
Reminds me of a FF fan poll in 2018 and one guy was shouting RIGGED! RIGGED BU THE XIV FANBASE! DOESN'T COUNT! because his favorite FF game (XV) didn't perform well.
It placed like 10th in "favorite game", the highest ranked character was Noctis at like... 15th place and beat out by characters some "literally whos" from the MMO (Herchfaunt Greystone and Emet Selch), and other coping
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>>23810286
That one is always going to be my stand-out but let's see what else there was that I can recall off-hand from V.
>Every girl shitting on Embryo
>Judau getting pissed at Ange's death-seeking to the point of activating his biosensor
>Getter vs. Great
>Purus and Marida, though I think part of that was done mostly in a DLC stage
Didn't it give Hathaway a say in some Unicorn stuff, related to Loni? Can't recall, it's been ages.
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>>23810309
>Tetsuya himself is fantastic in the game, and people often forget how good the opening part is with Ryoma.
I'm replaying V now and my memory is foggy so I don't remember why this is a thing but I absolutely love it, it has me intrigued. Athrun in psycho girl island reminds me that they really didn't do much with him in Y, he just hangs around aimlessly with the enemies which makes sense and then joins and then thats it?
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Destiny's protag representation in SRW is very sporadic, sometimes you get a K which actually locks in on Kira hard (and as such the plot of the show happens over maybe 5 stages), Z which locks in on Shinn's side of things, and finally L which strikes something of balance.
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>>23810367
Oh yeah, that reminds me, V had Ruri being another Coordinator project didn't it? So that's Ruri, Mikumo, and I think the MJP kids that have been linked to Kira's origins.
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L did the balance by also changing Shinn's motivations didn't it? Like Kira wasn't responsible for his sister's death or something?
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L actually has Heine, Dearka and Yzak introduced earlier. Dearka and Yzak actually stick around and tell Shinn about Kira before Berlin and the Destroy situation.
It helps that Stella lives by default (her being a pilot is the secret) thus preventing Shinn from getting pissed off at everybody and preventing the Rey/Durandal manipulation.
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I should get back and read the LP/translation someone did, it was the same guy who went through UX/MX and Z, as I recall, wasn't it? (W too, though now that one has the fan translation to work with)
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They don't seem to do the same non-UC Gundam twice in a row (Crossbone in V and X being an exception) so this probably means we can write off Wing, Seed, and G for the next mainline SRW (which means more hope for 00, X, Turn-A..) It also means we won't see Code Geass, MJP, L-Gaim, Combattler V as that would be 3 games in a row. is that right?
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>>23810433
It's true that it debuted in DD, but I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't want to use Seed Freedom in the next SRW HD.
We'll definitely be saying goodbye to Combattler (temporarily, it's too popular among the Japanese), L-Gaim, MJP, Wing, G, and Macross Delta. I'm also a bit doubtful about Getter Ark returning. G-witch depends on whether they do Season 2 in the next DLC; if they don't, then it'll definitely return in the next game with the full story. Code Geass largely depends on whether they plan to do Rosé or not. I expect a second round with Raideen, maybe the return of Daitarn 3 or GoShogun.
Also GQuuuuuuX debut? which could mean no Gundam UC for once although I have a hard time believing they could make an HD SRW without Camillie or Amuro.
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>>23810463
Why is Combattler so popular among the japanese
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With Code Geass getting axed in the next SRW, they missed out on some good vvv crossover potential
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00 has the Z3/V sprites, so it could return at any time. The issue is that it'd be the movie.
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Code Geass has Roze, which is notably missing from DD even though you'd think they'd jump on that due to being a Sunrise show. Just like G-Witch, I bet this means they're saving it for console SRW.
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>>23810057
We get units and character designs are used from other stuff in V:
-Uribatake looks normal when he's a fucking mess in POD
-Some of the jovian Gekiganger ripoff show up even when the show isn't listed, the movie only had a brief cameo of one in a museum.
-Nadesico using attacks that weren't in the movie.
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I think Arc gets at least one more game before bowing out and we most likely return to Armageddon (maybe with the Noir team tagging along if the gap between DLC 2 and then is wide enough). Though relatedly, I'm not sure what they'll do for a Mazinger rep since I doubt OVA Kaiser will stick around. Maybe Saudi money is on the table to push Grendizer U and it's Mazinger X
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>With Code Geass getting axed in the next SRW
No its not? Geass has Roze, which will probably also use Res alongside it.
AND Geass has a new anime coming up
Just because you don't care about Geass doesn't mean its going anywhere.
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>Code Geass has Roze, which is notably missing from DD even though you'd think they'd jump on that due to being a Sunrise show. Just like G-Witch, I bet this means they're saving it for console SRW.
Geass's plot in DD hasn't even reached Res anyway, they have lots of room for Geass in DD. And as you said, they didn't do an event like say, Grendizer U, seems pretty obvious they are probably planning it to debut next game.
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No. Its theatrical runs did well, and its currently the focus in the Geass gacha plot.
Its even getting a TV broadcast this year starting in July, freeing it from Disney+ jail.
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>>23810615
The next Route Entangle AU in Lost Stories gets revealed tonight
KoR Kallen will be a tough act to follow though
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>spends most of her time dressed as a fag
I hate the fact that they wanted to imitate Zero's little trick of the secret identity and used this bullshit. I hope that at least in SRW, at the end of the plot, she'll be playable with her real appearance. No, wait... we're in the age of laziness, they probably won't even allow her Frame to separate from Ash.
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>>23810619
Ash is super popular anyway, they'd probably want them always together like Lelouch and C.C. getting the Gekkoei Sui to stop being solo units.
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>>23810620
There's no official confirmation. The possibility of a major DLC3 comes from a recent SteamDB update that seems to hint at it.
But there's no confirmation; we're waiting for an official announcement. The pic is from the previous thread.
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>>23810619
She might switch out one of her Spirits with Love once she is done using her disguise near the end, because Ash has always planned to protect Sakuya without a Geass, a grave error in her part that ultimately helped to hide her identity anyway.
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I don't mind the Roze cast, but the Roomba plot is just way too fucking stupid to me and it's going to make all of the playable cast look like such fucking idiots
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Norland is basically begging to be previously acquainted with Rau and they can team Neo Britannia and Foundation up.
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The Roze plot flows way better there too. Addition characters add more, it uses the old characters better, explains stuff better, and just giving it a little more time to develop the characters does go a long way.
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Because Chitose is the real MC.
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You wish.
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What temp mech do we give Kyosuke next time?
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Which version of the Riese is better: 30 or DD?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_iduWxK5BI
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>>23810639
Might be confusing it for Dot Blastrizer G-EXT.
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Honestly, I'd say toss in 00 S2 and have the killer Roombas mixed with the A-LAWs Automatons. Maybe even F-91 with the Bugs.
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>>23810615
>Maybe one of the Geass AUs, if not Nunally then those ones in Lost Stories.
New one looks like its gonna be the successful SAZ storyline
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So I'm curious, ma'am, is V actually your favorite of the International games or are you just horny for Chitose?
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Two different posters. I'm the second one you responded to. I actually do like Chitose's character in V a slight bit more than Soji's. It's not to say I dislike Soji, I just found myself liking hers more, felt a bit more impactful over the course of the story. V itself is something I can say has what I felt was the best overall OG story of the International games, even if I feel like Y is fairly close behind it and that I still have quite a soft spot for T.
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I played Chitose first and I do also like Chitose more than Soji. Her sister-bond with Nine is better, and her personality as a resilient beam of hope in the depressing world that V starts out with makes her character more outstanding. Also it feels fitting that the jaded senior falls to the enemy's side.
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>Crossbone is UC though.
I'm not asking for a full plot remake with the same level of content of Alpha 2, but it really bothers me that in VXT, none of the three have AT LEAST a minimal remake of the first part of Crossbone. Okay, they should have made an X3, and add the cape for X2-X1 and some other units, but it was doable. Finding a way to put Harrison in there wouldn't have been bad either. Love his theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AKVEXYdMDA
To date, while Full Cloth is awesome, Crossbone in VXT has been one of my biggest disappointments.
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When was even the last time we had a crossover non UC gundam plot in SRW? BX? I don't think SD Gundam actually interact much with the actual Gundam series.
I know WFM was in Y but they didn't do much with it.
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>>23811117
It's partly because, IMHO, Witch seems to have been added at the end of the game and the writers didn't really know how to exploit it without the Season 2. Wanting to use only the S1 still seems like a stupid idea to me.
It's also the fault of the show itself, which tells a very short story set almost entirely in a single space station, while the Prologue, the manga, and other side materials suggest that there's quite a mess outside Asticassia. With only S1 there really wasn't much to work with, but Heero, the scene with Freya, the Miorine-Walkure , the part with Domon aren't bad.
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This is true, but all things considered, X brought quite enough , even if many of them had one or two attacks. It seems like a complete waste, to me, that Reconguista didn't get a second go-round in SRW T where they could have perhaps improved things .
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>It's partly because, IMHO, Witch seems to have been added at the end of the game and the writers didn't really know how to exploit it without the Season 2. Wanting to use only the S1 still seems like a stupid idea to me.
I really think in addition to all that, Witch likely has some pretty strong control over the writing so, in some ways the staff just didn't bother trying.
You get lots of interactions with Suletta, Miorine and Chuchu, even more so if you have the pack with varied side missions launched alongside the game. But even without season 2, we could have seen the Benerit group suits being used by armies or mercenaries, but they just never show up outside of Witch stages. You also have some script oddities like how they have one scene with non-Witch characters talking about "Gundams" in general aren't the actual issue, but rather "Gund-Arm" tech, but then when they recreate the scene from the episode with Aerial being declared a Gundam, they use the script from the anime where Gundam is treated the same as Gund-Arm.
And then, no Witch characters get any lines in DLC 1 and 2. Miorine gets briefly referenced twiced in DLC 1 as a potential negotiator and as Walkure's manager, but she never shows up on screen. And then they just have no presence at all in DLC2. It really feels like the staff had to submit the script for them and so just didn't bother since they wouldn't get big roles anyway.
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>>23811202
All the Gundams directed by Tomino are considered "UC" in SRW, even if some are AU. I personally don't mind, I actually like it. Gundam UC and Gundam Wing generally let you swap pilots while many other AUs are stupidly locked.
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>>23811240
I'm referring to when their series plot actually intertwines, not just le epic fanservice moment where treize and ribbons consulted their plans to char and amuro.
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>>23811275
So by your logic, a series can have an entirely new post plot thing made up and it wouldnt count because they didnt use the actual in series plot?
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>>23811138
I feel like G-Witch could go well with Gquuuux in SRW. Could compare Clan Battle vs the duels. Plus you could make the setting pseudo-post-apocalypse. Say the Federation losing the OYW led to groups like Dawn of Fold, Neo Brittania, Blue Cosmos remnants, and those Doctor Hell remnants from Grendizer U episode 1 to become prominent. Also could explain the space racism towards Earthians in G-Witch.
Throw in Getter Arc since the world is fucked up in that one too.
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>>23811425
AC genuinely has a few nice series to pair with WFM, mostly thanks to the stuff outside Asticassia fitting the mold of many an AC setting. VD and G Gundam is honestly an inspired pairing too, especially since you can have its the Towers linked with the Devil Gundam, maybe have that as a dual boss with the Temu White Glint in the lategame.
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>>23811494
Ange is giga straight. She just gave Hilda a consolation prize to keep her quiet.
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>>23811457
Koros carries an actually useful item that you want more copies of, so shooting her down is a good thing. Furthermore, a poorly upgraded Daitarn also means that you're going to be taking longer on that map and the Lunar Frame one which means two good skill teaching opportunities down the toilet.
There's a bit more nuance than just getting the first 50 SR points and ignoring the rest.
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>>23811507
there's not enough deployment slots to cry over spilt milk over missing 2 potential mental focus parts man, by endgame you basically run out of available pilots to learn it
>getting the first 50
I didn't say that, I just said 50 is all you need, and even getting the first 50 is absolutely the wrong way to go, because you need extremely low counts for the extra exclusive skill parts and the game checks for you having less than half the current to get FAHSK.
Also I guess HWS too but regular Nu is plenty good enough already, HSK is an actual shitbox compared to the alternative.
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>>23810393
It's been two fucking games. Quit being a brain rotted retard.
>>23810993
Good fucking god. I like Armageddon but even fucking Mazinger changed installments every few years. We really couldn't have had Shin VS or NEW Getters to break it up a bit? It's not even like they take advantage of all Armageddon has to offer and have actually been downplaying it.
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>>23811542
>mental focus
Putting aside the fact that there's a lot of maps that you straight up cannot get the 5 turn clear due to quirks, that skill is far from being best in slot for a number of characters.
Nice job putting words in my mouth assuming that i was "crying over mental focus" bro. I was just using Daitarn 3 as an example of a moment where the game expects the player to have foresight to get something 20+ maps down the line.
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Because your examples aren't really examples of intertwining story but just characters inserting themselves in another anime scenario. I'm not saying it doesn't count, that's just not what I'm seeking.
>a series can have an entirely new post plot thing made up and it wouldnt count because they didnt use the actual in series plot?
It would if it actually has a plot like G Gundam in MX.
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>>23811594
A funny lipservice moment is something like them saying that Ryoma and Master Asia were rivals back in the day. It's useful setting fodder but it doesn't directly impact the events or foreshadow something in the overall narrative that's being told.
A character from another franchise actually contributing to the events of another's plot even if they have no plot of their own is by definition a crossover moment. For example, while they dont cover the actual EW beats in X, the Wing boys still have stuff to do to prop up the Buddy Complex plot, in addition to dealing with Relena/Mariemeia. They're not completely plotless goobers like say Mazinger/Great Mazinger in a lot of games or the vast majority of Zeuth in Z2.
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Hello Az
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Crazy how Razangriff got it's upgrade from 64 but the Ashsaviour didn't.
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>>23811661
I like his Geass character
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>>23811714
I's no even an upgrade, Lamia says the Fylgjas were based on the Valkyria series (the 64 mechs), which SM then develops into the Randgrith, which is then further developed into the Laz Angriff and in OGs they give it the Raven pack which is basically the same as the 64 Rathgrith down to being a flight pack with a partiicle cannon.
They fucking reinvented the wheel.
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>>23811794
Faith is one they kept even though it's totally wrong.
The OGs translation had some weird localization quirks like renaming the Ashsabers (for consistency?) or changing the reading on Keitoragouken to Ketu Rahu Sword but leaving RKO/KRO as is
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>>23811831
I mean, yeah, but it's like splitting hairs over someone saying "Ryofu" instead of "Lu Bu", it's the same shit, just a different language.
And you can say I'm the one splitting hairs over the patch saying "Lu Bu" instead of keeping "Ryofu" but if they leave other japanese names untouched (like for the very explicitly chinese super robot) then there's no consistency.
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>>23811874
Who want some Wang?
https://youtu.be/L1k8oHxM_6Y
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>>23811880
It's actually pronounced: "Lone Wong" in Mandarin Chinese. I fucking hate the Chinese Piyin Romanization of vowel switching the Os with As and Us with Os.
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>>23811874
Or Wong.
Like this guy.
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replayed OG2 GBA for a bit and noticed 2 weird bugs related to NG+
carryover cash for NG+ only ever counts half what you earned last run, it never improves past 50% carry over and doesn't account for your initial carry over from last run
and if you get a game over in a stage where a character gets their first playable appearance (like say, Ryune and Gilliam in the triple Inspector fight), all their carryover PP completely disappears and they revert to whatever their base new game PP was
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>>23812435
Tengoku feels like they had a plan but had their budget cut between games which derailed everything
Besides whatever they were setting up to do with Daitarn 3 since Z1 there was also the ZAFT war that practically didn't happen because they didn't have time to draw and animate ZAFT enemies
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Hakai/Saisei were pretty much mandatory because of Z2's headliners (00 and Geass). Z2's biggest problem is that it ultimately does not do much for the OG plot in the grand scheme of things and that carried over into Jigoku as well.
Z3 didnt really have a reason to be split unless they felt like the Vita couldnt cope.
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So something I really enjoyed about SRW J - if memory serves correct - that all of the series included were not post-plot, and they all had story relevance. Like Seed had its plot it from episode 1 all the way to the final. Well, we had Shapiro Keats but Dancouga plot wasn't there for the most part. I want to play the SRW games that have minimal post-plot and actually weaves in as many of the original anime plots as possible - which games would these be?
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>>23812461
You genuinely don't need a lot to cover stuff like 00, Gargantia and Endless Waltz. But the game would definitely be really dense to cover the entirety of FMP (remember Z3 went from the beginning up to Sophia) in addition to the other stuff while wrapping the insane amount of loose ends from Z3.
They were probably worried about not turning the game into a case like W where you can't go two stages without covering GGG plot.
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>>23812464
Yeah that's fair. But still route splits definitely could've been managed better to condense some of the plots from Jigoku.
Diebuster for example could've been done in Jigoku just fine since you get post plot Gunbuster anyway.
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>>23812459
UX is pretty good for that, as I recall. Even the post-plot series like the SD guys get their moments to shine, everyone gets a little something.
>>23812478
Yeah, I think only like, Mazinger Z doesn't get all that much, and he's still there for the reasons of playing into Tetsuya's plot about not being a dick. Zeta Gundam also only gets a little, but it's the Rosamia/Four choice at least (and Kamille's also the way to get Puru/2 as I recall).
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>>23812478
A/A Portable is a strange game in the sense that it carries some parts of the plots and skips others completely. For example, the story begins post-Z Gundam, but Char is still a member of Zeon and you even fight him. At a certain point, Quattro appears out of nowhere as a new officer. The same thing happens with many other events mixed together.
And I hate so much that ZZ guys are joining so late. Some games from the past were really a mess.
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>>23812521
Also, despite Zeta being post-plot Stardust Memory isn't. Though a majority of the Federation side is absent aside from Kou, Nina and Burning. Similarly, a lot of Dragonar's supporting cast aside from Linda and Kaine's mom are also absent. So, Noin and Burning take over as the trio's mentors.
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>>23812459
J has no plot for Combattler except for Hyoma's arms getting blown off too (also plotless Fumoffu, but that's a secret only unit). But J doing so many series from episode 1 does hurt the ones it doesn't bother doing this with, like G Gundam
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