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Which games have your favorite and least favorite rosters?

>Gundam Sentinel
>Gundam F90
>G-Breaker
>Acrobunch
>Mechander Robo
>Megazone 23
>Virtual-On Oratorio Tangram
>Gundam SEED X-Astray
>Golion
>Tekkaman Blade II
>Detonator Orgun
>Gundam SEED Stargazer
>New Getter Robo
>Fight Iczer-1
>Adventure Iczer-3
>Fafner in the Azure: Heaven & Earth
>Virtual-On Fei-Yen HD
>SD Gundam Sangokuden Brave Battle Warriors
>HEROMAN
>Linebarrel (Anime)
>Zoids: Chaotic Century
>Zoids: New Century zero
>VOTOMS: Alone Again
>VOTOMS: Phantom Arc
>Giant Gorg
>Macross 30
>Gundam AGE
These series have never returned from the pre-international era, not even in mobile games, which ones would you want to see again?

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I'm just here to find out when they're going to do a stream.

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https://twitter.com/tspark_official/status/2042075024757256426
Renais version GaoFighGar.

>>23812605
>Most favorite
V

>Least favorite
30

I haven't played much srw...

>>23812611
Wait, even the Iron Leaguers, Eldorans and Ryu Knights came back?

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Hey
You guys hear about pic rel. ?

Apparently we can have Ibis at home

>>23812623
Never internationally, but if anon means they were one-and-done entries in the franchise as a whole, than Eldorans and RyuKnight came back in OE after Neo. Iron Leaguer...I'd assume it must have been in X-O at some point.

>>23812611
Orgun and Golion were in Gakuen

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>>23812611
AGE.

>>23812605
Roster only not gameplay or scenario writing?

Favorite @3

Least? Z2.1

I miss Atsuko Tanaka

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Happy 30th birthday, Tomoyo Kurosawa.

>>23812605
>most
UX
>least
probably Z3.1

What's your dream series list? Also, list any OG or crossover interactions if you have any.

>>23811696
Imagine how much better SRW would be if women stayed away from the battlefield.

>>23812644
Z3 is such a mess. Holy fuck. The fact that you can't even control Dragon Hive anymore? All the messy route splits. Loss of story upgrades from Z2. What were they thinking.

>>23812650
You're one to talk, Wufei.

>>23812651
???
https://youtu.be/tZ_ZUnTubh4

>>23812641
Damn that's a lot of sex.

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>>23812658
For me, it's Reina.

>>23812651
You get Dragon Hive in Tengoku...

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>>23812656
>Kazuki Yao voice status
It's heartening to know that this was before SRW V and overall he managed to give Judau a couple of new lines pretty well.

>>23812594
Viletta Baddy!

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https://twitter.com/yaochan_defu/status/2040078179155747167

>>23812594
The only OG character to appear in every Alpha game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0RHmgIeTx8
Did you know that Viletta got a theme in OG1 because one of the guys on the sound team was a huge Viletta fan and made it without permission

>>23812611
Tekkaman Blade, Orgun, Iczer, X-Astray, Zoids: CC, and Heroman.

>>23812650
Shut up Wufei.

>>23812729
I'm pretty sure its just a Time Diver remix

>Initially, the plan was for Masaki to be the main character as well as Ryusei and Kyosuke, and for the story to revolve around Masou Kishin and a trip to Antarctica (at the time there were no plans to remake Masou Kishin ), but due to capacity limitations, the number of units was limited, so Masaki was incorporated into Ryusei's story .

>>23812736
All things considered, it's not a big loss because Masaki had a role in other games and he's still the undisputed MVP of the battle against Zoldark, but it would have been nice to have Masou Kishin more incorporated in Og1.

>>23812641
>Metallic Rouge
Is that series worth watching? I remember seeing it listed in a recent mecha shows list.

>>23812774
It was okay. Music was pretty good.

>>23812774
no
it's a dumb 2 episode plot stretched over 12

>>23812774
Mediocre at worst, disappointing use of it's premise.

>>23812774
It's a total waste of time. Not even offensively or comically bad, just boring as sin.

Having to choose between Turn A and xabungle on a route split is unfair. They're both so good. What route split did you guys pick? I already picked xabungle.

>>23812786
Also fucking tying together the two nuke drops from Turn A and Xabungle was kino. But slightly weird since I was throwing nukes from the Xabungle and Turn A as attacks...

>>23812786
In Alpha Gaiden? Xabungle. It's was pretty good.

>>23812774
Fuck no, duel loved it for some reason.

>>23812804
>Muh bogeyman
GET A LIFE

>>23812806
Likewise.

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Do I miss out on anything worthwhile by not doing these in 30? I hate turn limits on long missions.

Every time Z3.2 gets brought up I can't help but laugh how much of an apology game V was.

>>23812844
V is a decent but overrated game.

>>23812844
V started the over reaching super casualization of modern srw by allowing you to cast spirits whenever

>>23812854
Enemy phase spirits had existed in the franchise since 2009 but that game's sp system is way different.

>>23812844
>no playable rey
>no laevateinn urzu strike
>no final getter tomahawk
>plotless hathaway's flash and zz
Nah, not really. Cool mazinger though.

God why are the Quaestors the absolute WORST units to be up against in 30, they're not even difficult, just incredibly annoying as far as mooks go

>>23812849
I'm just saying how you can tell V was made with then trying to up for all the issues Z3 had.
>people were mad that Athrun wasn't playable. So not only did they make mhim playable this time but made a point in having him in the trailer to show off he was.
>people complained about no Mazinger Zero. So they added it in V
>people complained about Pseudo-Evol Eva 01 only showing up once and not playable. So they made him playable
>people complained heavily about the over focus on the OG plot. So they basically made it non-exist for the most part
>brought back ZZ after people complained it wasn't in it

>>23812861
Pretty sure nips don't give a fuck about most of that

>>23812863
>Mazinger Zero
Stuff like Athrun, fine. But Mazinger Zero is definitely heavily peddled from our side.

>>23812557
And to date, J is still the only SRW to physically feature the old Shuffle Alliance even if only as map sprites.

>>23812872
64

>>23812824
No, all of these fights are pointless.

>>23812876
But not as map sprites.

>>23812878
https://forums.serenesforest.net/topic/104832-super-robot-wars-64/page/2/#comments
Chapter 19. They have map sprites.

>>23812893
Or rather Joker has a sprite.

>>23812857
I didn't count NEO under modern SRW to begin with and wasn't counting on someone caring enough to well acshually

>>23812863
>>people complained about no Mazinger Zero.
The fuck? this is bullshit.

>>23812844
How would they ever make an apology game to Y? I've been asking for IBO in a new game for years but what I got was G-Bitch and most of series I don't give a shit about.

>>23812896
Neo is responsible for ep spirits, reusable consumables and start with X SP out of your max total.
Hakai inherited the consumables
Jigoku modified the SP thing
V brought back EP spirits (but NEO/OE had a range limitation that V+ dont have)

>>23812909
The major complaints were people getting attack onlied and OG plot shilling. Mazinger Zero/playable Pseudo EVOL Eva 01 were things V added so it didnt feel like reheated Z3 leftovers.

>>23812909
Sort of. People complained that the big preview stuff for Z3.2 being "This is Getter/Mazinger's true power!" being a stat upgrade and getting attacks we already had from Z2 back was a massive cocktease when they were expecting Mazinger Zero/Mazinkaiser/Getter Emperor/literally anything cool and new.

>>23812909
>>23812929
Z3 hyped up a new Mazinger power up and Great Mazinger showing up. People were hoping that it was either Mazinger Zero or a Kaiser and we got nothing. Both being in the game directly after Z3 after shows it wasn't done not to be a "reheated Z3" and only a retard would think that

>>23812930
Getter Emperor is beyond wishful thinking and Mazinger Zero wasnt even on the fucking cast list. This was the era when they stopped sneaking stuff in too. In hindsight, it was beyond kind of silly to expect that much even if what we got was underwhelming.

>>23812939
I expected something after all that. God I can't believe what a fucking letdown Z3.2 was after all that hype they gave. They fucking knew they had nothing and were lying through their teeth the whole time.

>>23812939
Nowadays Getter Emperor seems like it might actually happen. Technically we did get a playable one with Devolution

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What is you preferred flavor of Gespenst?

>>23812946
I forgot that one point Kyosuke was the main protagonist of the OG games. I wonder why they picked him

>>23812937
V shared a massive chunk of its cast with Z3 and if you were there, you'd remember how much shit the game got pre release for sharing so much of the cast even admist the hype of Yamato and it being the first non OG game to get an official translation.
They HAD to include something new among the returners which is why they made sure to show off the likes of Athrun (which addressed a common complaint) and showed off Mazinger Zero, so people would give a shit. I believe V was also the start of toy shilling too.

>>23812863
V also brought Tetsuya after so long and giving him an upgrade.

>>23812948
>V shared a massive chunk of its cast with Z3
That's literally every SRW and nothing new

>>23812947
They considered Masaki, Ryusei and Kyosuke. Masaki got folded into Ryusei's route and Kyosuke got included because Impact was the most recent game. (They both came out in 2002)

Z3 was like Tales of Graces Wii in that you could tell they knew they fucked up based on how the staff acted afterwards, and what was done following.

>I believe V was also the start of toy shilling
too.

The toy shilling is honestly part of it because they spent most of their streams showing off toys and chatting rather than going on and on about the games and promising the world when they know full well know they'll have had halfass at least a few things because of limitations. Now it's mostly just toy/gatcha shilling, a trailer and a stay tuned.

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>>23812947
Can't see how, in addtion to this he also got his own route in OG1 and an entire manga adaptation of said route, plus the OVA having him as the MC and 2nd OG giving him an entirely new animation set despite not having any plot in said game.

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>>23812947
He and the Alt are cool.

>>23812953
Compare the number of shared series between Z3/V and 30/Y.

>>23812947
Impact and Alpha were the most recent console games when OG1 came out.

>>23812960
>>23812954
You forgot also being the MC of OG2 while also having his Shadow Mirror self being set up as a future villain. Which will most likely never happen now

>>23812960
Also, that manga adaptation based on his route. Though there was one based on Ryusei's, though I dont't think it has a translation and Divine Wars was based on Ryusei's route too.

>>23812970
Weren't people a few threads back also talking about how the game made him the MC of A's plot leaving Lamia with practically nothing?

>>23812970
Kyosuke is not THE mc of OG2, he's one of the mcs of its plot. Since the game you know, covered Impact, a reworked Alpha Gaiden, aspects of Arado's plot in Alpha 2, SRW3, etc.
>>23812976
Yes, Divine Wars is Ryusei's Route.

>>23812970
>You forgot also being the MC of OG2
Literally in the image.

>>23812981
Yes, because it's true.

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What went wrong?

>>23812993
Nothing even the Mc of EF is based on him

>>23812976
Bro, the manga is called "Record of ATX" and it ends with Kyosuke and Excellen fucking, he's the main character there too.
There was no manga for Ryusei's side.

>>23812981
>>23812990
The OG and the rival barely have anything that consititutes a rivalry in A. AP has been translated for over 5 years, we should be familiar with the plot by now. They used Kyosuke to explain why the SMs jumped and Gilliam to explain how they got the tech to jump. Lamia is still the one driving the A plot in OG2.

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>>23812997
There was but it looks like this.

>>23812998
>Lamia is still the one driving the A plot in OG2
She really isn't. You can like her but every aspect of Advance's plot was taken by other characters.

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>>23813008
That's dead wrong.

>>23813008
Her plot got taken over so hard that they actually made Lemon and Excellen the same person tying even harder to Kyosuke

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>>23812997
Anyone have raws for the final volume of Divine Wars ATX? Translated sites are missing the first half of the volume.

>>23813013
It still pains to say that NxC is just a terrible game, great fanservice but horrible gameplay

>>23813017
What is with them trying to give Excellen clones to Axel?

the one negative thing about the jump from GBA OG to OGs is the loss of many old school BGM that would never be remixed ever again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ6v_NfDcOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A-ITA6xfYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOBAVpx29pM
Posting the Alpha versions because I didn't find the OG remixes. Didn't search that hard though.

>>23812996
But Hawken is Axel's son.

>>23813017
>Lemon spends almost the entire game talking about how much she values the development of the W series and is happy to see how Lamia, Wodan and Echidna manage to make something of themselves beyond what she set
>But the Excellen part is totally the most important part of her character guys

>>23812997
I thought there was another manga that focused on the SRX team.

Fun fact, you can just kill Vindel in the second to last stage of OG2 and completely ignore Lemon who simply disappears forever and is never acknowledged again by anyone.

>>23813042
You can also completely skip the part where Kyosuke/Excellen talk about naming their children as well.

>>23813038
See >>23813006

>>23813046
You can? I thought they always at least mention Alfimi.

Reminder are the irui and Sanger doujins canon?

Okay which game's plot did OG fuck up the most? Didn't they change the R cast to being from Shadow Mirror rather than the future for one?

>>23813035
>But the Excellen part is totally the most important part of her character guys
Because that's all anyone remembers.

>>23813046
Wasn't that in a post stage cutscene?

>>23813013
SRW OG the Inspector is the best Yakuza anime ever

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>>23813052
J. They completely fucked up Calvina's character, made Touya more boring, and tried to make the Fury less evil.

>>23813052
R or Alpha Gaiden for sure
Probably R wins out because it has actual OG protagonists who just kinda end up doing nothing except get chased down by Axel and then Raul hops along and chills in the Kurogane until OGG decides Fiona is actually alive in the final 5th of the game.

>>23813022
Yeah, like I'm surprised of all the characters from Resident Evil to choose from they went with the guys from Dead Aim.

>>23813052
Them being from the future really didn't matter much since they didn't really pay attention to current evens going on during thier time and didn't know much about the major shit that happened

>>23813057
It's the last bit of dialogue during the ending of OG2.

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>Alfimi joins in the final(2nd to last for true ending) stage of OG2
>Can't hit worth a damn because Regisseur has Warp Field

>>23813053
Its an incredibly minor part of her character that people gas up as a really big deal. The A "plot" is basically just the OG deciding that the Shadow Mirrors are wrong after working with Londo Bell/Steel Dragons and realizing that a world of perpetual war is wrong. OG made up so much shit for it, its absurd.
>>23813057
>>23813064
Excellen has to kill Lemon to get the expanded dialogue concerning the names of their children.
>>23813052
R and GC.
R covers all of like 4 maps in OGs, OGG is just them doing random stuff until when Fiona shows up at the very end and even then Duminass is not even the same person.
GC is completely unrecognizable.

>>23813069
She also counts as a forced deploy for both stages lowering your deploy slots from 20 max to 19.

>>23813071
>Excellen has to kill Lemon to get the expanded dialogue concerning the names of their children.
Nah, if you do that she brings up having 2 daughters, if you don't she just mentions one daughter that would be named Alfimi/Alchemie

>>23813071
GC is not only unrecognizable but it's also pretty insulting

>>23813062
I do miss all the arguments people used to get into about the timeline/alternate timline stuff. I remember arguing with a guy who kept saying MMX wasn't apart of the Future timline with Xenogears and Legends.

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>>23813075
If only we could get them as characters that come from the future for a subplot piloting these units.

>>23813080
That's weird considering in the game itself Tron and KOS-MOS are aware of X and Zero and vice versa. Though, I'll admit it did seem weird that PXZ and X and Legends taking place at the same time. This was before I knew much about SRW such as how most games like Alpha had all the UC series happening at the same time.

They could have used R to supplement the Alpha Gaiden and even 64 plot (if they knew that people cared about them before 2020) but that ship already sailed.

>>23813084
It'd be hilarious if Kyosuke clings onto plot relevance by having his special darling time traveling daughters show up while the 2 SRW in OG that actually feature time travel as a plot point were treated the way they did.
I was gonna say "the 2 SRW that actually feature time travel" but then I remembered Y was just a while ago.
And also UX if you squint a little and Alpha 3's true ending

What's the best OG anime OP theme and why is it Break Out? Though I think Rising Force is a close second.

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SRW DD already did pilots from one franchise piloting another from a different franchise. When is a mainline SRW game going to add that feature.

>>23813092
>Break Out
Not a bad choice but Prisoner of the Labyrinth exists.

>>23813090
I guess so if they're gonna have Excellen using recyceled voice clips whenever she's in a game now.

>>23813087
NxC/PxZ go even harder with the time travel/muiltverse travel stuff that sometimes it gets really hard to follow like both Sakura Wars and Valkyria Chronicles being from two different alternate past timelines. But Vergil is from the main timeline but before DMC3 while Dante is post DM1

>>23813092
It's Maxon.

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DD when?

>>23813099
I remember in PXZ2 when Alisa reunites with the Resonance of Fate trio she says it's been years since she last saw them but for them it was only a few weeks ago. The game also had Revelations Chris and Jill meeting RE6 Leon and of course Kite and Haseo teaming up.

>>23813089
People say that but what do the MC of R even do in thier own game? They basically aren't familiar with most of the stuff going on cuz they didn't pay attention to any of it and they keep the fact thier from the future hidden the whole game. The OG villain barely doesn't even do much out side of the opening stages

>>23813109
They also have Metalface meet the Mech Fiora even though I'm pretty sure they never figure out each other's true identity at all in their home game because Mumkhar dies before she joins.

>>23813109
What about opening stage Hibana from Nightshade meeting pre-Shinobi start Hotsuma. Or Natsu meeting everyone and it's never mentioned that everyone mer Taki

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>>23812946
Was this a test run for the for the Type-G or was the Type-G made because people liked this?

>>23813121
the type G MIGHT have been in ACE Portable first
there's 8 Gespensts with 3 different loadouts in that game, so I don't even remember all of them

>>23813118
Fiora might know since she was binge controlled around that time. She just didn't see him die because she joins right after that

>>23813110
>They're barely familiar
They're familiar with very important aspects of their world like for example the Zambot children dying at the end, Heero and the others losing EW, etc. Theh wrestle pretty heavily with changing the events of the past throughout the game. Which is why its so lame that the EW finale is optional when its a really big moment for them.
Also, Tiz/Lalia/Despinis are the ones who helped organize the alliances for a lot of the non OG villains.

OG misses even the easiest of references to R's plot by using Mizuho's access to tech from the SM verse to allow our side to reverse engineer it. What about combining the R Devil Gundam plot with the Machine Cells + Magus instead of disgracing Lamia in a please shill Axel moment?

>>23813121
>>23813124
Type G is based on Kai's mech in OGG
Type N is based on the Cry Wolves
Type C is the Schutzwald's successor

>>23813130
Sorry, our OG Devil Gundam parallel are mainmade Einst strains so it all somehow loops back to Kyosuke.
>>23813132
Type G has a chest blaster and plasma stakes on the legs. Kai's didn't have that, just plasma stakes on both arms.

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When are the shuras coming back

>>23813118
I always remember seeing people upset at PXZ2 and Smash Bros. for including Mech Fiora because of spoilers yet those same games also have Lucina.
>>23813120
I thought Hiryu mentions Taki but not by name when he first meets Natsu.

>>23813132
Type N is just a normal supped up Gespenst.

>>23813094
Maybe when the Gundam Wing×Code Geass crossover manga comes out, the start including the Wing Zero Rebellion for Lelouch when Wing and Geass get into games together.

>>23813140
It has the 2-way folding rifle the Cry Wolves' customs had

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>>23813138
Never.

I can't be the only one who thinks enemy turn spirit isn't a big deal. Back then prevail was overpowered, you can spam confuse every turn and there was no evasion penalty so you're invincible in enemy phase regardless.

>>23813134
Type G is a fusion of the Mk S and Kai's custom.

So, what's the worst game in terms of annoying enemy reinforcements? I'm gonna assume Namco x Capcom.

>>23813145
Prevail was terrible in a lot of games back then.

>>23813142
It's not really the cry wolves' personal custom. They (and kai) just got the early rollout for the gespenst remodel plan. Gilliam gets his own modification because he's a chad.

>>23813141
When is that manga coming out?

>>23813150
I love J but spawning all enemy reinforcements on the opposite side of the (too big) map always sucked.

>>23813152
Gilliam already had RV since OGs and he's the one who helped organize the Halloween Plan which was meant to make specialized and upgraded Gespensts for the few specialists lying around.

>>23813139
I think he says she's familiar but must people focus on why she talks like a Natsu and use modern slang first some reason

>>23813157
NxC is way worse. Imagine twice as many reinforcements and combine that with unskippable attack animations that are basically mini fighting game combos. Stages towards the end of the game end uo being like hour and half long because of all the reinforcements

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The voice of Hibiki Yuta.

>>23813138
Folka saw the potential stupid romance subplot and decided to fuck off

If we miraculously get a new OG I want Kyosuke and Shu being bff for no reason in Story. The go to SRW Hero and SRW Villain back in mid-late 2000's and they're also on the same age

>>23813013
Dante is my favourite OG

>>23812993
How could we wank him even more?

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>>23813226
We can't, but she will.

Sex with Nanbu Kyosuke.

>>23813225
I swear there was a time some people here wanted him to appear in OG.

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What's his next step?

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>>23813229

>>23812939
We didn't know what new shit was or wasn't in Tengoku when Jigoku was out

>>23813151
Enemy turn or not Prevail is strictly better than Alert unless you're gonna get tagged with a stun or -50% attack if you don't dodge

>>23813244
it wasn't good until Z which does have evasion decay (which doesn't reset when you get hit)

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Leave Y's DLC3 and the franchise's 35th anniversary to me.

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Machu's voice actress.

>>23813244
There's an entire glut of games where Prevail is either bugged in some way or just boosts your crit rate. This leads to funny stuff like Prevail being very bad in Compact 2 but extremely good in Impact.

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https://twitter.com/ueyamamichiro/status/2042220119703912508

>>23813071
>>23813077
Devs took a little too much to heart about how not-talked-about GC was and just decided to get it done as quickly as possible to say they did it.

Pity, I don't know much about it but I do like the Super OG it has. Though don't some of the OG units have some weird legal kerfluffle about them, which is why the Real wasn't in in any capacity unlike most other OG cases?

>>23813151
The point is it's so easy to be invincible in enemy turns. Games where enemy turns are legitimate threat are exceptions.

>>23812946
the mark II Kai in OG gaiden.
Jet Phantom was an awesome attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsh4yTci33c

>>23813228
>>23813241
My waifu

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https://twitter.com/catsuka/status/2041970311327879226

>>23813319
>>23813321
How many promotions have they done. I remember that Char one from years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0yNuh9MeA

https://twitter.com/NOBUKIHIYAMAY08/status/2041488326348399000
Hiyama.

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>>23813145
>>23813312
>You can spam Confuse every turn
Please tell me how I'm going to be able to spam confuse every turn in the games where it doesn't exist. The spirit's price also varies between games and it can be rather expensive and/or rare depending on the distribution of relevant units in the game who actually learn it, especially in the single deploy games.

the whole lmao half hit rate spam tends not be a viable strategy until the lategame which is already the easiest part in most srpgs anyway. not to mention that can be foiled by enemy phase reinforcements or some units having such low evasion modifiers that confuse basically does nothing for their avoid anyway.

>>23813301
Dokkoida was pretty alright

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>>23813352
>and it can be rather expensive and/or rare depending on the distribution of relevant units in the game who actually learn it
Besides the games where it doesn't exist at all its almost always available from Combattler/Voltes subpilots or similar units
Realistically you only need a couple of casts of it most stages cause its most useful when a fresh enemy wave is coming in, and you're saving SP on everyone else even if you're having Quattro or Gilliam or whoever use it. And then there's some supports that have it anyways in other games like Lelouch and it might as well be handed to you for free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Zv1PMx1Ac
Line up.

Oh and in the squad/pair games you have no reason not to be using it constantly when whoever's sitting in the back row is doing fuckall with their SP anyways and you can probably deploy a double digit number of pilots that have it in Alpha 2/3 and Z.

>>23813373
>>23813377
I'm glad that you have a sample size of maybe 5 games.

What actually weakens the enemy phase in SRW games is the existence of powerful map weapons, because the games then turn into lure as many enemies as possible into range, so your competent map attacker either kills or severely weakens all of the enemies in range for the rest of the team to mop up.

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>>23813412
What are you even talking about and why are you trying to make it into an argument.
Confuse is in way more than 5 games it's always been useful

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Mazinger's 55th anniversary next year.

>>23813352
Like i said man, even if my example isn't applicable to all 50+ games, you can't honestly say enemy phase in these games aren't trivial. Unless you just send out units with 0 upgrades to the frontline alone or bring up shitters like aphrodite ace side by side with mazinger I just don't see any scenario where enemy phase casting will make the game easier than it already is.

>>23813428
>>23813431
How is this even a "debate"?
>Unit is low on HP for whatever reason
Cast Vigor/Guts/Trust/Faith
>Enemy exhausted all of your support defends and racked up oodles of dodge decay
Who cares, you still have Alert/Persist/Foresee to spam with impunity.
The only games that got enemy phase spirits right were Neo/OE because SP was at a premium and you couldn't let some random character with Trust heal you from the literal other side of the map if your unit got hurt.

Do you think a game like AP wouldn't be significantly easier if you had the ability to cast spirits whenever you wanted to bail you out of a sticky situation? Especially during the early/mid game?

>>23813255
Only if you bring Diebuster with you.

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>>23813421
Surely this means something will happen with Dancouga right?

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>>23813457
Enjoy your model kits.

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>>23813174
>dommy-mommy Fairlion
God damn it- that thing needs to be painted red and given to Katina.

>>23813420
>What actually weakens the enemy phase in SRW games is the existence of powerful map weapons
And conversely, what actually strengthens the enemy phase in SRW games, is double (or even triple) turning bosses with map attacks running in the 5000+ damage range at 10 squares distance. And I'd say enemy-turn usage of spirit commands is a good counterbalancing to that bullshit.

>>23813449
I was only talking about confuse, chill out niggy

>>23813022
I powered through it by sheer force of nostalgia. Every stage after a point lasting 2~3 hours was kinda miserable though.

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>>23813373
>Combattler/Voltes subpilots
L was a really funny game in retrospect.

>>23813449
Yeah but for every 1 game like ap you get 10 games like alpha 1 or 64.
Besides it's not like you can't just park a super robot with guard cast ahead of everyone else.

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>>23813500
That's still fairly balanced since you can't cast those lategame spirits more than twice

>>23813459
Whatever, anything for a full Henkei Gattai Dancouga Nova. In fact, MODEROID might be enough, but they could still make a THE GATTAI anyway, they have to also give us the R-Daigun for Dancouga Max God.

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>>23812946
pork

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>>23813200
Highlights of V, I hope when Eva returns to SRW Shinji and Koji can be bros again.

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>>23813429

X or 30?

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>>23813590
>>23813429
I havent been on /m/ lately any OG news
kek at that sprite tho
>>23813511
I miss Gravion Z and Z2 my favorite unit there, I wish the series appeared in our modern SRW

>>23813591
X is the worst of the VXT trilogy, but in retrospect I don't like playing 30 at all, and this despite 30 having a better cast for my taste. Sometimes I like to imagine if Bandai wasn't made up of retards and what would have been if SRW X had been skipped and all its resources had been directed to T.

>>23813477
nta but you really are full of shit.

>>23813421
Why are there two Hamans?

>>23813507
>enemy AI ignores your SR

>>23813315
they made it way worse in OG2nd
they didn't know just how hard that axe kick into split second plasma stake activation went and took it out

>>23813511
Gravion's ace bonus makes them go from struggling to cast spirits to holy shit.

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>>23813595
>any OG news
just toys and the odd bit in DD

So we'll never see other representation of Gundam Wing except for EW?

>>23813650
Might take a long time to have something like Z2 again

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what exactly are these

>>23813650
We might get TV Wing but only past the point where the Gundams have already upgraded so they don't have to animate two sets of Gundams

is PP or funds the bigger constraint in 30

>>23813652
the stages you can repeat to farm

>>23813622
hypervisor is not a crack it's a bypass that have to open up your bios to use. Denvou is still there

>>23812611
Dangaioh

>>23813695
That said, the one doing the answer does not use Hypervisor, it just a straight up crack. Sadly, I don't think SRW Y is a priority, given it's not a AAA title and specially since it seems it still not done with DLC, so don't expect a crack anytime soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekUa3dxXnKE

Well, Y just got another Steamdb update today

>>23813704
Oh, the problem with cracking the game now is that you won't be able to play any new updates and or DLC if it comes out

>>23813716
>Well, Y just got another Steamdb update today
That's what, the 3rd time this week or something now?

>>23813752
It's kind of hard to tell if it's just a steam side thing or an actually update. But when they happen this often it usually means something is actually coming

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>"Lieutenant Quattro never acts without reason."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

>30 has two missions to upgrade the Hyaku Shiki
>instead of just giving Char a mech that isn't underpowered mediocrity

>>23813774
Hyaku Shiki is among the strongest of the side units in 30.

>>23813790
And unless it's the ZZ version it's usually pretty good

>>23813774
I mostly just put Quattro in the RX-78 2

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>huckebein game
>no vanishing trooper

>>23812594
I tried to install SRW Y on my deck and i had creamapi'd it. On the deck the game doesn't see the dlcs. I copied the files and i pasted the creamapi..what am i missing? Is it because the deck uses linux?

>>23813653
I'd be fine if they do like D again where they have their upgrades already.
>>23813759
Char does nothing ever wrong.

>>23813759
Didn't Kamille punch him over Axis in the same game?

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>>23813802
Sucks they didn't have pic rel. in 30. They had like a billion Comp Hero games so it's a big chink of SRW history.

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>>23813865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0nEXlUbj1g

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>>23813866
That hoverboard. . .

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>true super expert plus mode™ unlocked
>let's go grab DLC units
>
perhaps this was a mistake

Now I get why i wasn't enjoying my 2nd runs of 30 and Y. While it was fun to get all the NG+ freebies and build whoever freely, it removes any semblance of struggle entirely and makes the playthrough feel hollow. Restarted fresh with no NG+ and now I'm having a blast with both games again

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>>23813878
Super expert Plus is basically just this game.

30 still sucks for the most part, unless you like J Decker which I do.

>>23813883
oh hey, you found my ignore-list

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>>23813885
I have a younger cousin who for some reason was absolutely terrified to the point of nightmares of this frame of Getter 2. I thought it was pretty funny by my Aunt didn't think so.

>>23813884
No, not really. Impact (and D) suffer from a bad case of parroting.

Why is almost every enemy targeting Brain unit in J? Do these things have some kind of hidden bonus aggro I don't know about?

>>23813653
>>23813650
They could do Glory of the Losers. Reuse EW Gundams as the upgrades, and even could base the base Gundam's sprites on the EW ones.

>>23813899
No one wants that.
You keep saying this will never make it happen.

bring back route splits to modern SRW

>>23813922
There are a lot of things I wish could go back.
And SRW Y doesn't exactly give me hope for the best. I can only hope the Japanese complain enough and the SRW team backtracks on a couple of things. Like removing Wave Rider Mode from the Z Gundam is clearly bullshit. Same thing for Macross, they must have at least two forms.

>>23813895
They target the nearest unit with highest rates. I think they also prioritize using mapw and c moves

>>23813930
The characters in delta spend such little time in battroid, they'd basically have to make up entire movesets from scratch

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>>23813899
You're more likely to get the Wing/Geass manga in SRW than you are Glory of Losers

>>23813932
The problem isn't so much Delta, but setting a precedent so that they never have to make alternate forms again when a robot has them available and uses them regularly. There was no need to remove that form from Z. In SRW Y it seems more like a convenient excuse to work less and get people used to that.

With Delta I'm more annoyed that most of the Valks' weapons aren't useable attacks but they instead get a lot of Consecutive Attack type moves

>>23813955
You could count the number of times Billbine had a real use for its alternate form in SRW on one hand. I dont recall Show using it that much in series as well.
As for Waverider, it has a tendency to flipflop between being the only form worth using and, I only use you because they crippled Zeta's movement far too often for my liking.

>>23813960
Bilbine can fly, and its speed doesn't change much between the two forms, and the last time it could transform was in Alpha 1.

But there are units which gain significant advantages by sacrificing power. And I've always used the Jet form of Wing or the Waverider.

>>23813930
I can understand some stuff like L-Gaim' MK 2s Cruiser mode, the Billbine's Wing Calibur and the Delta Valks. Other stuff like the Zeta I can see where you're coming from. Zeta's Waverider needs the HML back as a move though. Stop with just the Beam Gun + Beam Rifle moveset.

>>23813932
It's a similar reason to why Gerwalk was cut from Frontier's appearances and just incoporated into movesets.

>>23813964
>Bilbine can fly, and its speed doesn't change much between the two forms, and the last time it could transform was in Alpha 1.
wrong

>>23813895
Most of the nintendo handheld games enemies prioritize units in an order that's something like the lowest evasion > highest current HP > closest target (if the other two factors are tied somehow)
Usually means they'll beeline for Combattler or a ship but if those aren't in range it can be less predictable.

>>23813973
Fine, I'm guess you're referring to Impact or something on a nitendo console like Neo, which I haven't played.

>>23813981
then don't talk out of your ass if you didn't know

>>23813899
>>23813650
>>23813653
They could do Frozen Teardrop.

>>23813976
A/R/D/W i think were nearest enemy
J was lowest evasion
K onwards was highest HP

>>23813989
I think Evasion is a factor in D at least before distance
I've had enemies shooting at someone in the middle of a support defend pile even though the guy at the front is closer and not standing on the better defensive terrain

>>23813992
I think they prioritize the most likely kill among nearest units

>>23813992
>>23813989
I think some games also check whether there's X allied unit within possible range that would get shot down

Transformations were just a novelty for 1 more movement range or a terrain difference back when it mattered. Next game is gonna get rid of Getter forms 2 and 3 and just relegate them to an attack for 1 in order to cut out more fluff.

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>>23813997
even for a shitpost calling getters fluff is going too far

>>23813894
>Bullet sponge game isn't bullet sponge game

>Reinforcement hell game isn't reinforcement hell game

Neh you're just a contrarian fag. D isn't bad but that doesn't change the fact for what it's bad AT

>>23814002
Daitarn 3 will be the next victim, THEN it will be Getter's turn.

>>23814007
They already removed Daitarn 3's forms back in Z3 though

>>23814007
were Daitank and Daifighter even in V?

>>23814010
Yeah no, the seed was already planted

I'm not sure I've ever actually ended a turn transformed into Daitank in any game. Daitarn doesn't get stuck with range or terrain issues generally and in the games with blocking its not really any tankier than the main form.

it's funny that Grungust's alt forms are way more useful than the alt forms that inspired it ever were

>>23814004
You can keep repeating it, that still doesnt make it true.

SRW, but the villains are the playable units and the heroes are the enemy characters.

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