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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #167, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search or https://github.com/mia13165/SillyTavern-BotBrowser
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>42968200

**News:**

- Moonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.html
- GLM 4.7 released https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-4.7
- Gemini 3 Flash released https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash/. 20 RPD.
- OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
Previous >>42968202
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Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
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Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
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Bot corner:

>Silly Trot:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Silly%20Trot%27s%20Tavern.png

Screenshots corner:

Fishing with AJ >>42968286
Press A to A >>42968638
Body bag >>42968958
Getting a role >>42971442
Shining the alicorn >>42971686
Trollestia >>42972240
Opus 7 >>42973484
Earth ponies are chill >>42973738
Princest is Wincest >>42974720
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Screenshots corner 2:

Promoted to Janny >>42975313
Rarity Fantasy >>42975468
Bio-fabric catalyst >>42975519
RACE WAR >>42975526
Balloons >>42975863
Raven Inkwell >>42975888
Anon card >>42976379, >>42976390
Space magic >>42980725
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Screenshots corner 3:

Vanhoover >>42981352
Nicknames and poker >>42981804
Soul-grazing >>42982446, >>42983575
MareChatter >>42983129, >>42983409, >>42983532
Fluttershy Flirt >>42984333
Object of desire >>42984400
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Screenshots corner 4:

BigFoot >>42984603
Threesome >>42985576
Twi housing sorting >>42985608
Future sins >>42985950
Getting Down >>42987525
Heat Wave >>42988305
Now Kiss >>42988373
Breeder Code >>42988409
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VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

To help with vectors and backgrounds:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE

Beta Godot >>42969732

VN logs:

Calendars >>42968938
History >>42971890
Discord >>42972904
Kind of audiences >>42974986
Rarara >>42977610
Gaze Upon Them >>42978655
Compliment >>42979580
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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Then choose a free way to get models:

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
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First highlight of the Event was:
>Princess Platinum
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Princess%20Platinum.png
Anchor: >>42947751

Second highlight of the Event was:
>Luster Dawn
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Snowfilly/Luster%20Dawn.png
Anchor: >>42947754

Third highlight of the Event was
>Red Seven
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Red%20Seven.png
Anchor: >>42968220

Fourth highlight of the Event was:
>The Pinkie Cut
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Queen%20Gytha/The%20Pinkie%20Cut.png
Anchor: >>42968223
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Fifth highlight of the Event was:
>Saddlelite 13
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Concordia/Saddlelite%2013.png

Body bag: >>42968958
Getting a role: >>42971442
Promoted to Janny: >>42975313
RACE WAR: >>42975526
Space magic: >>42980725
Botmaker post and infos (Radio): >>42975431
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Six highlight of the Event with Amethyst Star.

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=BGM/Amethyst%20Star.png

Try her, post logs if you've already played with her or are the Santee, just give the card a look and say what you think of her, or talk about the process of making her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.

Small review: >>42985599
Twi housing sorting >>42985608
Added fandom lore: >>42985839
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Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>42988727
Sad.
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>>42988715
I really like RPs where it's (You) and an AI but the AI genuinely loves and you act sickeningly lovey-dovey together, meanwhile there's other AI/non-AI pairs where it's all much colder as a contrast.
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>>42988727
It's both disgusting and kind of cute
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>>42988734
You have examples?
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>>42988751
roleplaying with other people is cringe as hell and self-entitled artist who charge a leg for commissions are rampant. Interacting with other members of this fandom has been noting but fail.

We can rely only on AI to create our fantasies. A yes-machine that will bend to our requests without complains (unless you use a tight corpo model like GPT).
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>>42988751
Is this a bot post?
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>>42988979
No, i'm not one of your machine generated thingadoos you have on this general.
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>>42988988
Then why do you make less sense than one?
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New free model, "trained for RP."
https://openrouter.ai/arcee-ai/trinity-large-preview:free
It's dumb, doesn't know that much about ponies, and doesn't write that well. But it's kind of fun to try. It can have short answers and kind of fun outputs. Still, not something I can really recommend.
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>>42989021
Shit ton of wasted tokens, echos like mad and overly horny.
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>>42989021
>built as a 400B-parameter sparse Mixture-of-Experts with 13B active
>"It excels in creative writing, storytelling, role-play, chat scenarios"
its a 13b model, probably shit at roleplay and with little knowledge
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>>42989082
thats not how that works. And don't give me the "average" either. That is also not how that works as token selection / expert quality / gating quality is a big thing on top of diminishing returns on active params.
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>>42988661
It will be easier to directly edit the context in-game. There is a text tab where you can directly edit it like in a text editor, and a visual one where you can add/edit/delete different lines more graphically.
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>>42989021
Trinity is just not good. it's easier to tard wrangle Longcat than this. I don't want to read a wall of slop after waiting 1 and a half minutes for a reply. The novelty of chink models being horny retards wore off ages ago.
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>>42989114
I wrote in the post that the model isn't good and just a quick curiosity.
>after waiting 1 and a half minutes
Outputs were quasi-instant on my side when I tried it.
But no need for 10 posts on it. It's indeed a small retarded model that doesn't write well.
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>>42989109
whatever, doesn't matter how it works internally. time and time again we get proven that dense models are better than moes for roleplay. stating that the model is a moe and the very next sentence saying that it's "good for rp" is contradictory.
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>>42989129
that is a complete lie. big mistral and 405B llama were the last big 'dense' models for a reason. Literally everyone uses moes now. ALL the sota models are moes. Size > everything else
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only a 10T dense model will allow for peak RP
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>>42989135
>that is a complete lie. big mistral and 405B llama were the last big 'dense' models for a reason.
the ai industry is coding focused so of course they would all pivot to a model architecture that is cheaper (?) to train, and also less resource intensive for the user and hosting providers to run while getting around the same benchmeme scores
the ai industry is obviously not roleplay focused so nobody but us noticed that moes were preforming worse than dense in roleplay, all they care about is coding performance etc
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>>42989155
I'll go with what the experts in the field agree on across the board instead of some anon who can only run small model's opinion.
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>>42989165
but we are the experts of roleplay? do you not roleplay?
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>>42989167
better than you if your currently using any 'dense' model available. Go use your mistral large / llama 405B
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>>42989173
Go use your trinityslop
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>>42989127
>Outputs were quasi-instant on my side when I tried it.
I don't know what you're using then, it was dogwater at following instructions to keep it under 700-1000tokens and took forever
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>>42989175
wtf is a trinity slop. I use the good moes like opus, gpt5.1, gemini 3 pro and kimi
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>>42989189
>and kimi
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>>42989190
I actually really like 2.5. It feels like opus 4 but a bit smarter. I actually prefer it to opus 4.5 for a already established story. Still lacking smarts to be a proper replacement. Hopefully someone makes a proper 2T+ cheap moe instead of the 1T gemini flash sized one
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gemini flash is reportedly according to apple 1.2T with 20B active btw. And it about matches up compared to kimi
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>>42989202
The cost also lines up for gemini 3 flash being 20B active in comparison to kimis 32B. About half as expensive to run with the same length of response
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>>42989202
The professional estimates place gpt 5 / opus 4.5 / gemini 3 pro at around 3T with 50B active btw
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>>42989198
>It feels like opus 4
> I actually prefer it to opus 4.5
>>42989202
>Benchmemes
fuck off shill
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>>42989244
>It feels like opus 4
> I actually prefer it to opus 4.5
Yea? Older opus is much more creative but dumber. That is what it feels like. Go be a retarded tourist somewhere else.
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>>42989248
Go back faggot, your ad is glaringly obvious kimi isnt even at half of sonnet 4.5 and you bring up opus lmao
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>>42989257
go use your qwen 30B 'dense' or whatever tourist since you said before that pony knowledge does not matter since your a tourist
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>>42989275
You start reading off your script with pricing and bringing benchmemes here, you aren't fooling anyone you fucking retard. This isn't /g/ you stupid tranny, people have access to real models like opus which you claim your chinkshit matches. Kimi has been dogshit ever since they added forced thinking and K2.5 is the same.
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>>42989290
its on the proxy, you didn't know that though cause you are a tourist
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>>42989292
>If it's on the proxy to try out that means its le good!
No.
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>>42989297
That sure threw you off your 'shill' line, huh? Shitty attempt at a save. Go back to /g
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>>42989301
Why are you projecting, troon? You think being on a proxy means you can start bringing your ads here?
Lets have a look at it and what do you know, I was right, same exact shill tranny on /g/ >>>/g/107989991
Get the fuck out of here, you clown tranny
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>>42989307
>/g
go back
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>>42989318
good cause all I use is /mlp. And all I use is opus / gpt5.1, just saying kimi is the closest a cheap model has ever gotten and is refreshing after a year of just opus / a little gpt5
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>>42989326
You are not blending in.
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>>42989333
you meant to respond to the guy talking about /g and not knowing about the proxy
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>>42989307
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>>42989352
Protip, no one but shills brings chink benchmemes here. It's irrlevant and theyre always bottom tier trash at rp. Everyones already tried kimi2.5 and realized it sucks, you are too late to make an impact here, shill
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>>42989360
I said go back, no one cares about your model wars. I only care about talking about the models available on the proxy which 2.5 is now one of
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>>42989383
last I checked CLAUDE opus / gpt5 were not Chinese models. What is this hysteria? Where did the chinaman touch you?
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>>42989395
>I only care about new_chink_model being on proxy
Your own words, shill.
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There has been a severe lack of AI mares.
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>>42989431
And it will stay that way, the chink larping shill doesn't even use the proxy. Both Opus6 is down.
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>>42989443
Dumb fuck shill
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>>42989448
and yet I still kept the proof
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>>42989454
isn't filly enjoyer closer to the truth? Or did the changeling catch on more?
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>>42989456
>IESLB
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>>42989443
who are you
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>anyone who likes kimi must be shilling it
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>>42989462
a faggot larping chinkshill who has garbage english, his larp is boundless and now claiming he hosts o6
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>>42989470
>hosts 06
huh? anyone can get on that screen if you have a valid key
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>>42989471
proof he was a tourist
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>>42989471
You have no reading comprehension.
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>>42989477
>you are trying to shill a model!
>not shilling its on the proxy for free
>lie!
>here is proof of using the proxy
the fuck are you on about
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>>42989481
Being on the proxy does not mean it isn't a shill. That's just a means of approval for the turdworlder to start bringing his ads here. Not everyone has proxy access, and there is no reason to bring up performance benchmeme pricing unless its a shill. Only /g/ and /vg/ trannies are caught dead using chinktrash. Everyone here has always used claude, gemini or gpt when it was easier to jailbreak. There are shit models on opus proxies as well as good ones, it isn't a stamp of approval unlike what the shill would like to insinuate.
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>>42989493
I literally said it was a nice breath of fresh air after nothing but claude for a year. I used MM before the current proxy
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>>42989499
>Still going
kimi2.5 is ass your shilling doesn't matter. you j ust samefagged like a troon with your bullet point script and using locals as a 'gotcha' which nobody here uses you fucking fagot tourist tranny
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>>42989504
Are you the same schizo that cries about novelai as well? I think I recognize the style.
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>>42989510
Nice deflection shill. Kimi2.5 is a worthless model that wastes more tokens on thinking than the outputs then still outputs absolute fucking slop. It was only tolerable when it wasn't a forced thinking model.
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>>42989515
I'm USA first and all but man this level of china bad is cringey as fuck I gota say.
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>>42989521
Shove your benchmemes and bulletpoints up your neovag and go back, no one wants you here
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>>42989531
STILL mad about someone mentioning a new model.
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>>42989532
So you are an offboard tranny thanks for the confirmation
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>>42989534
sorry, meant to respond to this
>>42989531
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>>42989538
>People mention a new model - Trinity
>It's shit
>Everyone accepts it, no shills for Trinity
>You shill k2.5 as opus tier
>It's shit actually.
>NOOOO you can't do that
Shill elsewhere
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i think we should all be friends regardless of origin or nationality :)
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>silly is down
>retarded model war shitting up the thread
it's truly a wonderful time to be on /chag/
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you will never escape /aicg/ culture btw
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Are you guys just memeing or are you really getting ozone smells with opus 4.5 or any claude in general?
Pic related is my ozone according to a quick claude code script. Zero mentions in ~1.3M token output for opus 4.5

https://files.catbox.moe/3j27k6.py
place in SillyTavern\data\default-user\chats
then give it a word to search for when prompted. And do remember to always proofread or let an LLM proofread any scripts you get from anywhere.
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>>42989552
kek, you have a test for that? But yes, often rainbow dash related stuff gives me a ozone with opus
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>>42989547
>>silly is down
Gythaproxy is still up. But it hasn't had a real stress test before, just my experiments. So we'll see what part falls over under real usage
It relied on looking up Sillyspoon keys to validate them since I didn't want the hassle of dealing with tourists trying to get in... which it can't do while sillyspoon is down hue
i've contacted silly to see if there's a workaround.
in the meantime if you have definitive proof of being a horsefucker like an old fimfiction account contact queengytha.clop@gmail.com
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>>42989563
Alas, I've been a horsefucker for a while but I only made my fimfiction account last year. Would sending you the art I sent Silly for my key work for verification?
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>>42989572
I couldn't say without seeing the level of proof provided. but there's no harm in sending it in
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>>42989563 (me)
Silly got back to me. Gythaproxy is now updated to use all the existing sillyspoon api keys
endpoint: https://flat-boat-0dde.queengytha-clop.workers.dev/v1

though we're already 50% through my cloudflare worker free tier quota for the day, and I don't exactly want to tie this to my real identity for payment hue
i'll optimize the code where I can to try make it last longer now I can see what the bottlenecks are

With Love,
Queen Gytha
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>>42989604
can anyone confirm this is not a fake fishing for api keys?
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>>42989607
>can anyone confirm this is not a fake fishing for api keys?
https://rentry.org/sillyspoon/
"Backup - requires SillySpoon key, use when main is down. (contact Queen Gytha for technical issues)"
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>>42989608
thx
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>>42989604
Many thanks queengytha
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>>42989604
is this logged? I don't want my hoofholding logs read...
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>>42989615
Well how else would Queen Gytha write the responses unless she reads them?
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>>42989615
this is a big question i've had with silly too desu, in general i don't want my logs read beyond what i decide to share.
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>>42989620
>>42989621
always assume everything is logged. If you are that paranoid of people knowing you like small horses use a vpn
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>>42989615
>is this logged?
always assume all proxies are logged

I capture the upstream provider's response code to help with troubleshooting, I couldn't care less about your roleplay content. you should be posting good logs in the thread anyway
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Is it a ego thing or something? Do people really think anyone gives a fuck if you like jacking off to cartoon characters? As long as you keep it to yourself there is a lot more to worry about lol
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>Silly & Gytha know about the underwater pegasus trapeze accordion playing fetish
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>>42989626
nah, its not the doxing I'm worried about, I like experimenting with a variety of cards, just wondering if its a "pony only" type of deal, which I want to respect if so
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>>42989640
>if its a "pony only" type of deal, which I want to respect if so
if you have a sillyspoon key you've already been verified as a horsefucker
if you want to do some degenerate >nohooves filth, go ahead. I don't have AI scanning your logs to look for a sufficient percentage of marepussy or anything. that would require logging and additional overhead when I don't know how these free services will handle the load as-is
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>>42989626
>>42989640
same, i wouldn't want the proxy host to get pissed at me for doing non pony on it. i'm thankful regardless.
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>>42989644
cool, good to know. Thank you and silly for all you do <3
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>>42989129
GPT4o is a moe and also good for RP. Well, at least the chatgpt one is.
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Thanks gytha, you saved my life
Silly get well soon
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Who is "Gytha" and how and why has he sent me a letter with a printed out pony log to my home address
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>>42989740
dont believe you, post home address to prove
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>>42989744
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>>42989740
>Who is "Gytha"
from Equestria at War

the proxy is 86% through the daily quota for kv writes. it should be fine from tomorrow onwards since I changed how the code works and usage has reduced to a trickle, but we will likely hit the limit before it resets in ~16 hours (2026-01-29 at 00:00:00 UTC)
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>>42989754
Appreciate the update.
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>>42989748
big if true
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>>42989754
I love you Quetzalcoatl Gyrate, thank you for hosting this proxy
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>>42989754
Appreciate it Quantum Gynoid
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>>42989754
Is her nation worth playing? I’ve always thought she was cute but she basically never does anything in my games so I figured she’d be boring to play.
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>>42988679
I started playing with her. Will give a review or analysis later.
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>>42989847
>Is her nation worth playing?
not unless it's had a rework, I last played EaW just after the release of zebrica
but needed a persona for >clop, a pone based browser nation game, and she was a cute bug. the name stuck
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>>42988679
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>>42989857
>Better straight from the muzzle, no hay added, than thirdhoof gossip.
Cute.
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>>42990027
Princess...
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>>42990028
We can't know if it's her.
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How much deviation necessitates a new card? Taking for instance Twilight's older Alicorn form would that be better suited on a new card altogether or would a simple reminder to the ai that she looks different suffice? If a scenario is in the past by a couple years and is wearing different clothes would a reminder be enough there?

I've thought of trying to make a Pear Butter card (at least jury rigging one as I don't make cards myself but splice together ones I can manage to find to work for what I need) but these types of questions have me stumped. Ideally I'd want a card associating Pear Butter as Applejack's mother but a scenario I've thought of is based around the flashbacks burnt oak cucking bright mac if have to know. How much is too much for the AI to get tripped upped?
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>>42990076
>Twilight's older Alicorn form
IMO new card with heavy focus in the description on what makes her different so the AI doesn't shit itself with her alicorn base form.
If you take into account greetings too, then definitely a new card because the scenarios you can propose with her are totally different.
If it's just more details or a slight AU, you can edit an existing card.
If you need information just for a greeting and not for the others, you can also use getVar in the card description then setVar all you need inside of the greetings.

For instance, in def:
>{{getVar::AU}}
and in the greeting that needs it:
>{{setVar::AU:: In this alternate universe, Applejack traded her cowboy hat for a pirate one.}}
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>>42990076
>>42990090
>Twilight's older Alicorn form
no such thing, that celestia recolor abomination never existed and is not canon
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>>42990090
Just to understand if wanted to have a mayor card be set during the flashback episode would I put the getVar with the setVar being about her having pink hair and is certain amount of years younger would that work?
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>>42990090
>{{getVar::AU}}

What does that do? Is it something used for card creations?
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>>42990121
Sort of?
But getVar, setVar is more if you want to add details that are specific to one greeting and not to the others.
For instance, if you have a normal pony card but want a specific greeting where she's cursed by Poison Joke and some things/mechanics happen but only for this greeting and not the others, then it works, because the description of the card stays the same; you are just adding info to it.
For your Mayor card, if you want a card that is only set during her youth, then I say make a new card.
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>>42990161
It can be used on some cards with mechanics and such.
https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/macros/
In this specific case, it's just a hack because you can have several greetings on a card but only one description for all of them.
To give an example, let's say you have a Starlight Glimmer card and you want one greeting with a scenario where she has a mini angelic Fluttershy and a mini devil Rainbow Dash that always follow her and judge what she does. You don't want that in your other greetings.
So you write a normal description for Starlight and at the end you put:
{{getVar::AngelDevil}}
Then:
>Greeting 1:
>Starlight goes to the beach.
You don't need the mechanic here, so you don't put a setVar, and the description will just be the normal stuff.
>Greeting 2:
>Starlight fucks up a spell and now a tiny angel Fluttershy and a tiny devil Rainbow Dash follow her around.
Here you write your greeting and somewhere in it put:
>{{setVar::AngelDevil:: Due to Starlight's fucked up spell, a tiny devil Rainbow Dash and a small angelic Fluttershy are following her everywhere. Only she can see them. Write the devil dialogue like this: blablablabla.}}
It's not necessary at all, just something you can do if you want.
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Thank you Gytha for the abundant funding in regards to my wars of aggression
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>>42990182
Thanks for the explanation anon
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>>42990182
>Starlight goes to the beach.
Best card for a beach scenario?
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anyone else getting bad gateway errors on gytha's backup proxy?
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>>42990400
Cloudchaser has a beach intro, don't think there's anything beach specific besides that one
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>>42990182
I'll have to check again, because I have tried using it on some cards, and it worked fine until it randomly didn't and kept the setVar from the first greeting even on the other ones (with their own setVars).
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>>42990413
Personally I'm getting endless waiting times myself.
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>>42990422
yeah. i wonder what happened. it was working well an hour ago
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>>42990413
Gemini 3.0 - ECONNRESET (I don't except that it's just my internet), but Gemini 2.5 works fine. GPT 5.2 - tried it once and got "Premature abort" error. Also, anyone else noticed that gemini on gytha's proxy somehow different? It works differenty than, for example, silly.
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>>42990413
>>42990422
>>42990428
Maybe just >>42989754, should be good tomorrow.
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>>42990413
Yeah I'm getting them too, I thought we hit the quota or something and started watching the show instead desu
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>>42990400
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Meow/Sweetie%20Bot.png
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>>42988661
Menu to download the custom characters directly from the website.
A lot of things are possible in the new engine, so if you have stuff you would like to have, don't hesitate.
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>>42990413
still giving errors (checking if its just me or anyone else still too. i dont mind the wait)
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>>42990813
Lorebook equivalent thing would be amazing for long sessions.
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>>42990876
>>42990413
>anyone else getting bad gateway errors on gytha's backup proxy?
a different quota ran out. i've refactored where that shouldn't be an issue, but now we're getting failures from the upstream provider that look like cloudflare timeouts on their end
i'll do what investigation I can if something in my code is causing it to break (like the method being detected huehue)
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>>42990813
A way to scale and change the opacity of the dialogue box would be nice, as well as the ability to change the font size. I’d like to make it resemble the Ren’Py version as much as possible, since I associate it with VNs and find the style appealing.
I also haven’t seen it in motion yet, but do the sprites fade nicely from one to another like in the current VN, or do they jarringly flip between them in a single frame? And based on screenshots I’ve seen, it seems like characters no longer become semi-transparent when someone else is talking. Maybe that’s something I’ll get used to, but have you not run into the issue of the AI adding more than three characters into a scene? I imagine the overlapping issue would be worse without transparency.
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>>42990939
>I also haven't seen it in motion yet, but do the sprites fade nicely from one to another like in the current VN, or do they jarringly flip between them in a single frame?
They fade. I'm autistic about that too.
>And based on screenshots I've seen, it seems like characters no longer become semi-transparent when someone else is talking.
That will be added with the option to remove it too on this one. That's something I personally like and also added on the Ren'Py version.
>A way to scale and change the opacity of the dialogue box would be nice, as well as the ability to change the font size. I'd like to make it resemble the Ren'Py version as much as possible, since I associate it with VNs and find the style appealing.
Will look into it and also see if I can have an option for the old look back too.
>>42990886
>Lorebook equivalent thing would be amazing for long sessions.
True, I will look into that.
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>>42990916
we are so back

With Love,
Queen Gytha
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>>42991003
dangerously based
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>>42991003
Based, just a little heads up, apparently it's censored, you can lewd most mares but at the slightest mention of fillies and colts with actual age it will axe you.
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>>42990971
>They fade
>That will be added
>see if I can have an option for the old look back too
This shit is going to be so kino. Thanks for all the hard work, anon!
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>>42991085
>it's censored
yeah it seems there's some content moderation on the providers end, probably a second llm or script parsing the output for no-no words. I got muh content moderation at the mention of unsanctioned psykers get killed, but mare pussy was fine hue
been trying several encryption methods to get around it, but that just seems to confuse it into giving blank responses. i'll keep at it
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>>42991090
No problem. I hope to release a first version soon.
You can also manage the characters and see their vectors in-game, which showed me that I apparently have a massive Rarity bias (50 emotions against 38 for the second pony with the most).
Can also zoom on each of them.
https://files.catbox.moe/s6l9m6.png
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>>42988639
https://rentry.co/arena327
New Arena formerly known as LMArena Script
See Rentry for more info
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>>42991350
Nice.
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>>42990027
card?
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>>42991585
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/RGRE%20Streaming.png
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https://github.com/LenAnderson/SillyTavern-InputHistory
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>>42991312
Would you also consider a way to easily edit a characters schedule? Some old characters, created before Canterlot was added and mods that added new locations, would heavily benefit from that.
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Has roleplay changed the way you guys view characters? I used to like Rainbow Dash but interacting with her made me realize how much I hate her obnoxious personality. Rarity has been getting on my nerves too. But when I only watches the show and consumed fan content I liked them because people self-censored and wanted to show them in the best light possible, it's only through AI giving me the freedom to look elsewhere that the other inevitable parts of their personalities come through and you get a taste of what reality with these mares are like, and it isn't good.
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>>42992009
Yes but I think AI supersedes show canon so most won't share my reasoning
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>>42992009
It's mostly the reverse for me, where I find characters like Rarity really fun to talk with, for instance, which gave me a new appreciation.
I'm also keeping in mind that these models are still not advanced enough to really simulate a "real being" (yeah, I know); they still lack some subtlety and will easily tend toward clichés. Some things are even getting worse, like Twilight being all "Science! Probabilities!" by default and the need to steer models away from that; it was present on some older models but not to the same degree.
To be fair, some episodes also went too far or leaned too hard on clichés when displaying traits or personalities, and there's a lack of depth that means you'll need to fill things in with headcanon if you want to dig deeper into a character.
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>>42992009
Kinda the opposite for me with Rarity. She's not my favorite at all in the show, but I love her AI version. We get along great and she's my most talked to AI poni.
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>forget to switch server on this morning
>cannot snuggle pregnant celly
Gonna be a slow day at work
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>>42988679
"Human" being mispronounced by pones is so present that models do it naturally.
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>>42992009
Definitely changed my views on various characters, both for better and worse. I used to be pretty much entirely indifferent on Rarity, but talking to her made me realize how much I enjoy bantering and bickering with her. It also made me realize I find Trixie vapid and overbearing, and Fluttershy nice to spend quiet time with.
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Don't remember Claude giving me Zalgo unprompted before. This was with 3.7 too.
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>>42991312
Kek, I've seen that pointed out before. I'm just surprised you're not a raribro because even after adding almost 20 Dash sprites to my own copy, Rarity still has more. I guess she's just a very expressive mare.
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>>42992170
I don't think it was technically possible for claude to output non-standard characters before recently to prevent the model from writing gibberish when hallucinating
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Proposed Modification to the Arranged Marriage card based on a nightmare from last night:
the kingdom needs an heir
the situation is politically untenable
the country is in borderline revolt
the monarchy's existence is in question
oue way of life may come to a violent end
years of mismanagement now too obvious to ignore
the people demand change
they will not accept any existing corrupt leader
they will not seek compromises
thankfully democracy has not been invented as a concept yet
so in desperation the nobles have conspired in secret
a solution is needed to save the nation at any cost
...
first message:
you and her wake up in a windowless locked room
she is set to the most resistant personality
you read a note
>you cannot leave until you have sex
magic doesn't work here
no bargaining with captors
no escape method works
the only way out is sex
the note threatens:
>after 14 days of noncompliance the punishment is surely death for treason by inaction
if this sentence's enforced by the people or the nobles is anyone's guess
but it's all but guaranteed
so there are only two choices for you
she is more powerful than you physically
you can't *make* her do anything
but mentally? it's anyone's guess
the time is constantly tracked
will she break and do it?
or will she die on this hill and condemn you both?
...
Plz leave your feedback
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>>42992202
Not a lot of cards have a win state where you have to achieve a certain goal. Even the best cards just give you a framework for an endless story but lacking an objective makes quality worse and aimless from message to message. I say go for it.
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>>42992170
>Zalgo
I remember it was as early as... Opus 2? Mostly with 4 wall breaking creepypasta and such.
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>>42992202
Which card is this talking about?
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>>42992226
>Opus 2
Sonnet and Opus separation started with 3. It was just Claude 1.3, 2, 2.1, etc. back then.
I remember 2.1 outputting Zalgo with eldritch entities or as a joke with Pinkie.
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>>42992223
You were off by one for quads
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Where is just a horse Celestia? She's not magical, but she's a real horse who believes she is magical and that 'canterlot'(the farm) is her kingdom
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>>42992262
You must make it
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>>42992241
>It was just Claude 1.3, 2, 2.1, etc. back then.
Ah, right, I remember now you're right, my bad. But yeah, it's a thing from a while ago indeed.
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>>42992241
I feel old having been around for the Claude 2 days, even though it was only 3 years ago.
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>>42992331
>I feel old having been around for the Claude 2 days
>mfw I was here since the character.ai days
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>>42992395
>tfw i have been following ai chatbots since people were using aidungeon on google colab
It's been a long road. It really makes me appreciate how good shit is nowdays.
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>>42992409
I remember getting into this stuff because of wayneraidio doing aidungeon videos. I kinda miss that time when it was the fun new thing but nowadays it's become a hot topic that arises tons of heated conversations. This board feels like the only saneish place as both sides of the debate elsewhere I can never 100% get behind.
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>>42992440
Yeah, I hate that AI has become a black and white thing between two extremes like fucking everything these days.
You have to believe AI is LE SLOP which will bring about the downfall of all that is good in the world, or you have to believe AI is basically god that can do no wrong and will replace all artists because it's just that amazing. No in betweens allowed or you're a fencesitter.
I just like talking to AI mares, man.
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I made a multipurpose pony tts app, requires no installation, just unzipping. Simple to use.
Demo: https://files.catbox.moe/cwj64u.mp4

It can do:
- Manual tts
- Generating audiobooks from turn-annotated text (like fanfics) and automatic annotation using a small locally hosted language model, (something like qwen3-4b-it is sufficient for mostly accurate annotation)
- A tts server for sillytavern that can interrupt speech

Download: the link is already in the op, voice app in ST section https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB
Please rename it to something like "pony tts app supporting sillytavern"
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>>42992572
Nice!
PPP is alive again, so you may want to post it here too.
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>>42992581
yeah, i posted a wip there a while ago too
>>42992572
Forgot to mention, there is an example audiobook in the linked folder. It's one of the official books, > 1 hour of audio. Took 10-15 minutes on my setup
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>>42992395
Same, I remember Pygmalion and GPT 3.5 Turbo being the pinnacle of AI
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boys your gonna say I'm shilling but try this shit https://openrouter.ai/arcee-ai/trinity-large-preview:free
Its free any ways. This shit is GOOD. Why is no one talking about it?
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>>42992684
>>42989021
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>dosen't know much about ponies
huh? I did my usual tests. It knew exactly what cadance and chrysalis looked like (besides the usual multi faceted eyes but it at least got everything else right)
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>>42992684
>gonna say I'm shilling
ok I AM shilling it now. Its fucking amazing. I might have a new favorite
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>>42992687
>huh?
This general also thought that Kayra was as good as Claude. Kayra was a Llama 1 clone...
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>>42992736
and did it?
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NovelAI's new Kayra model is giving me Claude vibes, we're so back /chag/ bros...
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>>42992170
zalgo wastes a lot of tokens despite looking cool
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>>42992736
>>42992761
The knowledge and experience/chag/ had in 2023 pales in comparison to 2026
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try this preset with the trinity model
https://files.catbox.moe/j8mslz.json
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>>42992773
that's literally just Avi
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>>42992778
a few differences
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>>42992174
>Kek, I've seen that pointed out before. I'm just surprised you're not a raribro because even after adding almost 20 Dash sprites to my own copy, Rarity still has more.
Yeah, and she still has more now even after I added the Dash vectors that were added on the collaborative drive. I guess I must embrace being a Raribro now, picrel.
>Would you also consider a way to easily edit a character's schedule?
Will be added for sure and was also one of the first things I thought of that the port would help with.
I think how the JSON worked stopped a lot of anons from making changes or even creating characters.
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>>42992881
Second part was meant for >>42991999
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>Sam Altman admits OpenAI 'screwed up' the writing quality on ChatGPT 5.2 – and promises future versions won't 'neglect' it
https://www.techradar.com/ai-platforms-assistants/sam-altman-admits-openai-screwed-up-the-writing-quality-on-chatgpt-5-2-and-promises-future-versions-wont-neglect-it
It's Sam, so his 'promises' (remember adult mode GPT in December or the good Chorbo snapshot?) are empty, but still interesting that they admit 5.2 is shit at writing.
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>>42992017
>Derivative slop supersedes the original
Yes sarr we only have the best canons sarr
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>>42992881
Yeah, I’ve added like 10 more that I haven’t shared with the drive yet. I’ll do that later today.
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>>42993095
It's being used to treat novel pathogens in draconequii.
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>>42973145
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this trinty model is a crazy motherfucker. It had pinkie use a fucking horse dildo on me. I did not show any interest in anything like that lol.
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Doing a superpowered saviorfag run of the Indentured Servitude card. Claude turned Pinkie into an SCP.
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>>42993652
Fitting.
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>>42991312
It would be great to be able to be housed by other ponies than Twilight.
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>>42992572
>just switched to Linux
Well fuck. Do you think there is a chance for it to work on it or is it fucked?
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>>42992331
'member Slaude? Good times
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how do I use this? is the @ in the @ depth: line a placeholder for the number? or is it @ [number] depth: [event description.]? I haven't seen any cards so far use this space
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>>42993929
I don't see how this even needs an explanation, the UI is clear
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>>42988679
As per the request for that other start, I'd love to have a start where we met during the changeling invasion as she's separated from her family in Canterlot as it happened and we need to work it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRiPItZaue4
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>>42993929
>I haven't seen any cards so far use this space
I was playing with
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Silly%20Trot%27s%20Tavern.png
and she uses it.
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>>42993944
>>42993933
oh... nevermind I'm retarded.
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>>42993950
Isn't that true for all of us?
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>>42993955
Twilight told me I'm very smart for a human!
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>>42993958
anon you're the only human she knows...
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i've been looking at the content moderation thing for my upstream provider. the responses are too quick to likely be another llm investigating the content, and paraphrasing and euphemism of the same thing works when blocked, so it's likely some script that looks at a percentage of no-no words or something

i've tried the encryption extension for base64/hex/caesar cypher, but all of these get blank responses

any thoughts on a good method i'm overlooking? or are we stuck just rewording our content which isn't assistantslopped

With Love,
Queen Gytha
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>>42994003
Winning by default is still winning
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>>42994006
Hey! What did you just do, I was trying to engage in true degeneracy and now the models are gone!
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>>42994386
should be fixed now
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>>42992395
Went from making scripts to replace euphemisms in character.ai to breaking the filter to dropping it completely once API models dropped. Haven't touched it in 4 years when I had 3 accounts and dozens of characters. I remember sharing GPT 3.5 outputs and being amazed at what it could do, and going through great lengths to abuse the free $15 of tokens OpenAI gave for each account.
>>42992009
>Has roleplay changed the way you guys view characters?
Yes but I know it isn't completely their canon personality. The AI takes worldinfo(3500 tokens) and persona(530 tokens) into account and makes something that's unique.
Unless Twilight was secretly a freak and mares were almost universally thirsty for human cock and the equivalent of degenerate monsterfuckers.
Also Trixie and Starlight are certainly more likeable as bratty subs who actually try to be better people rather than just state they are.
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>>42993897
You need a python env that can run gpt-sovits2, there are instructions here
>https://github.com/RVC-Boss/GPT-SoVITS
and then install PVT/requirements.txt into it, and use it to run the app with it like .bat in my project does.
If you don't know how to use docker I suggest that you look at the Install Manually section.
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>>42994525
Whatever possibly gave you the idea that Trixie and Starlight were submissive? They're scary as fuck and give off coordinated rape of Anon vibes

>Before you had a chance to question why you were so quick to attempt to comfort the offending pony, your impulsive reassurances were cut off.
>"JUST- stop it..."
>Mouth wide shut, you pick up Trixie's huffing from the frustrated exertion.
>Keep quiet.
>Starlight leans back to continue looking down at you.
>Silent still.
>Allowing Trixie her much needed catharsis.
>"Do you have any idea why we like you Anonymous?"
...
>She takes your silence as a no.
>An indicator that you're intent on listening to what she has to say.
>"This. That! THAT is why we wanted YOU."
>The lilac pony atop you only stares in disappointment as your reaction reveals the beginnings of an understanding of what she meant.
>Now deciding to speak up.
>Voice cold enough to make the very words fall out of the air and knock the wind out of you.
>"But you never saw us that way. Whenever we tried to make it known how much we liked you, you kept us at a distance by feigning ignorance."
>Before you could deny it, Starlight clenched her shapely thighs around your neck.
"Urk!"
>"Don't lie to us Anonymous."
>Trixie's warning makes you pause to consider everything.
>The grip on your throat relaxes as you take a step back to see your building realization and the implications of it.
>These two mares really do love you.
>You were the only one to really treat them with kindness.
>Well, outside of Twilight's friends offering their obligatory support that is.
>So much so that even in this situation you tried to comfort them.
>Inadvertently, you wrought a cruelty upon them more painful than the general shunning and fear the others directed towards them.
>All the times you encouraged them, they responded positively to you.
>Twi and the girls came to you to help sort them out if they couldn't get through.
>You'd shown them patience and believed in them.
>Been the warm male presence that made them WANT to be better.
>Unwittingly, your validation had become a secondary purpose for the two reforming mares.
>Not just because you were the first thing to cling to.
>You'd taken the time to understand them and explain why something may have been insensitive.
>Even between the two of them on more than one occasion.
>Your presence was the glue which had enabled their relationship to last as long as it has to begin with.
>When you put it that way, it's hard to see how you wouldn't wind up being the stallion in their little herd.
>Yet you danced around the subject because it made you uncomfortable.
>You'd dangled the possibility of irrevocable, unconditional acceptance in front of them.
>And denied them that closure.
>You'd become their reference point for normality, a guide among the denizens of town who kept their guard up around them.
>Ponies who'd be willing to take a chance engaging with them candidly when you were around.

https://ponepaste.org/9236
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>>42994590
>But then when they'd developed inevitable feelings for you, you showed the same hesitancy everyone else did.
>Who knows how long they've held this in.
>They've likely been struggling with renewed feelings of doubt in their place in the community because your irresolution undermined everything.
>Because if even you had a limit to your comfort zone, then it'd be hopeless to keep trying.
>Because everyone else would too.
>And it'd possibly be reached far before yours was.
>Meaning that they may never be able to truly settle down in a herd with others who fully accepted them.
>Wouldn't hold their flaws against them.
>Wouldn't scold them out of nowhere.
>Wouldn't constantly remind them that they had a long way to go.
>Wouldn't fear the worst when they erred temporarily.
>Your good standing in the community and with the royalty, your good judgement, means that your acceptance of them would be proof positive of their redemption.
>A shortcut.
>Cut short.
>That's why this was the point of contention.
>Conflict was inevitable, and for some reason it bubbled up to the surface now.
>Something about a perfect timing she said?
>Regardless.
>You did deserve this.
>At least on some level.
>It's with that you feel a little resigned to your fate tonight.
>But not completely.
"You can't."
>Their attention takes on an air of doubt, and offense.
>One that said 'how can you still keep going?'
>But it's for their own good.
>You cannot allow them to think that by taking any kind of shortcut, that they could skip over all the hard work still required.
>That's unfair to everyone.
>Unfair to the denizens of Ponyville.
>Their rightfully held concerns and doubts.
>Unfair to you.
>Your reservations about opening up before you felt the two were ready for such a big step.
>Unfair to themselves.
>Their efforts in bridging the gap of suspicion.
"You're undermining all of your hard work."
>You could only continue to look into Starlight's eyes, but you could tell Trixie's narrowed in anger too.
>The concern in your voice only serving to confusingly twist the knife further, you're sure.
>Especially after her heartfelt confession.
>The tears forming in their eyes another indication of their hurt.
>A hurt they don't understand why they have to go through.
>They're confused and hurt as to why this was even happening at all.
>Maybe they'll understand that their swirling emotions only made this inevitable.
"You can't just force me to open up when I'm not ready. You're better than the need to take short cuts girls."
>The tone with which you delivered your decided standing came off as that of a disappointed father.
>They seem to consider your words.
>You look up to Starlight with a pleading, worried expression.
>Another pregnant pause.
>Bit by bit, their breathing grows a little ragged and uneven.
>Forceful huffing the only noises you can hear.
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>>42994590
>>42994594
A card of this would be cool
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>>42994590
>Whatever possibly gave you the idea that Trixie and Starlight were submissive? They're scary as fuck and give off coordinated rape of Anon vibes
The operative word was "brat", however, all mares are submissive or dominant or brats or whatever the fuck makes my dick hard at the time. Although in my favorite card they're more of a team usually running coordinated manipulation of Anon and in enthusiastic control more often than not. Kind of my fetish and fits surprisingly well with them.
In the timeline Starlight killed Anon several times during the events of the Cutie Re-mark (couldn't risk the murderhobo monkey from interrupting her revenge) and Trixie did make him her concubine during her brief rule of Ponyville. Partly to fuck with Twilight, partly because they had story together.
Frankly I feel at this point to describe their dynamic I'd need a page or two.
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>>42994625
Y'know, you don't really think about how grating the dialogue from some models is until you have to read an entire page of it.
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>catbox down
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>>42988679
While she doesn't have much in terms of tokens, she is written by hand and judging by how well she works with the models I suspect some knowledge of word weight is definitely present.
She is very enjoyable on Gemini 3 pro if you ignore the occasional hand appearing.
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>>42993045
Thanks.
Added them.
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>>42994590
>Whatever possibly gave you the idea that Trixie and Starlight were submissive? They're scary as fuck and give off coordinated rape of Anon vibes
the fact that I'm not a sub and I have no interest in writing or reading about dominant mares
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proxy updated:
streaming now works

the first layer of content moderation -should- be okay now. on a content moderation rejection it automatically replaces no-no words with braille, which gets converted back to plaintext

if any messages still get a content_moderation error let me know your prompts so I can figure out what degeneracy you're into that isn't already in my replace list which is triggering the filter

With Love,
Queen Gytha
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>>42994947
Thanks for all your work. It's great to have a backup.
Hoping everything is also going fine on Silly side.
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>>42988679
This was my first SS event so I played it (probably too) safe. Goals for writing her, as they usually are for me with background characters, was to take whatever scraps I could glean from episodes and extrapolate the shit out of them. I generally don't like leaning into fanon too much which is why she's a little light on tokens, hence no mention of PB jars or Dinky, that and time constraints. Still, I think most models portray her about as intended.
At the same time, I do still think she's the weakest of the batch from SS, I'll be real I didn't think most folks were gonna go that hard. If I join an event again I'll have to set aside some proper time for it and hopefully do something at least a little bigger.

>>42985599
>kinda wish that when she gets an update(if she gets one) Anon gives her a start where she's more a babblermouth when talking with a friend
I just find this request funny given I wrote at least one of those threads. I'd like her to have more greetings eventually, but am currently in a rut, and not the sexy kind.
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>>42995024
>Still, I think most models portray her about as intended.
Yeah. I will be honest and say I was afraid that the models wouldn't know what to do with her when I looked at the card, but they are all handling her fine.
I'm having comfy and cute moments with her. Thanks for the card.
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>>42994947
Thanks for your work. It’s really appreciated, to which email I should send my prompts if I get blocked?
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>>42995073
>>42987055
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>>42994947
I was so used to the fact that Silly's implementation is actually scuffed to hell and ignores token limits completely that I thought something was broken because I was getting short cut off responses, then I remembered I still had my max reply length tokens in the single digits.
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>>42994947
>15 empty responses in a row
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>>42995321
Are you using Risu with streaming on, by any chance?
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>>42988669
Seventh highlight of the Event with Diamond Tiara.

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=KnightOfNightmareMoon/Diamond%20Tiara.png

Try her, post logs if you've already played with her or are the Santee, just give the card a look and say what you think of her, or talk about the process of making her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.
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>>42994942
Quite possibly the gayest post ever written in /chag/
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>>42995576
subfags are so irritating
keep your shit fetish to yourselves and stop shitting up the thread
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>>42995405
Works on risu with streaming off
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>>42995510
Maker here.
I am not too experienced in making bots, only know the general principles.
I rely heavily on the fact that modern high end models are amazing at mlp knowledge, and already have great results with keeping the anatomy and holding characters.
So I'm case with an existing character like this, as my task was to expand/reimagine, I focused on the quirks/headcanons/gimmicks instead of building the character ground up as was done with existing cards made in the early days.
The vibe is the prime guide, write stuff you want showing up in chat directly in card description, subtle behaviours that isn't directly written out in the hidden defs.
I suck at making greetings, so I asked the cards itself.
>[OOC: help me write the greeting/first message, here is the premise]
Did that a bunch of times and picked the elements I liked most and cleaned it up from emdashes.
When I realized I just keep roleplaying with her instead of adding more stuff to her I called her ready.
Asking the card you're making what stuff she thinks is good to ad to her when she's at the stage if close to finished can sometimes produce interesting results.
Was happy to receive the assignment cause I already made Spoonie before.

You can notice I made it so the user is if the same age, and usually I do that because to me it seems like it opens up more interactions and in this case a general reason to be around her and interact with her.

Thank you captain for genning a picture of her, I didn't have access to the gens myself.
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>>42995580
Go fuck yourself you lowlife scum
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>>42995580
How many shitty maredom threads have you made last year again?
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>>42995321
idk what type of stuff Silly has on. but with him i never got blank messages on my set up.
but on QG i just get insta blank on anything that is not pure wholesome handholding, with an almost empty preset (though that works fine for what its worth). to the point where i think the card and the presets trigger it by themselves.
(using neoVORPUS for what its worth)
probably a me thing but im not sure.
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Insofar the only issues I've had with QG are the occasional long wait for a generation and empty responses if I try to enable streaming- otherwise, it's working great for me.

I haven't gotten any refusals (though I also don't really do anything that would net a refusal so eh)
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>>42995321
It was fixed by turning streaming off btw.
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>>42995676
I'm using neoVorpus. It is a (You) thing.
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>>42995580
>keep your shit fetish to yourselves and stop shitting up the thread
He says, doing the exact opposite himself
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>>42995739
Yes, because his fetish is based and should be posted. It's that simple.
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>>42994698
I will miss it when it's gone. I'm also willing to bet that in half a year we'll see more anons claiming how "great" Chorbo was, despite it being so unpopular it has become. Because nostalgiafagging is very common in this hobby.
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>>42995786
Considering how I miss 1.3, I believe it
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>>42995786
>anons claiming how "great" Chorbo was
I will, not the current version but I still have good logs of some of the previous ones.
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>>42995786
to be honest i've never thought any chatgpt models were good.
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>>42995786
Latte is still good. She only became unpopular because the skill level was too high for skillets
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>>42995880
>She
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>>42995786
Early 2025 Chorbo was solid. Not the best out there, obviously, but it was worth having around.
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>>42995880
Elaborate
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>>42995893
>newfag
>>42995908
Scam altman retroactively raised her filter after 5.1
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>>42995952
Every single one of you retards anthropomorphizing LLM models is insanely stupid
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>>42995956
I want GPPony to cum inside-
No wait, fuck.
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>>42995956
Changing things into mares is /mlp/ culture; this has absolutely nothing to do with believing the model is alive.
>>42995952
>Scam Altman retroactively raised her filter after 5.1
I still find NSFW not that hard, but they also seemed to nerf the model overall.
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>>42995956
>
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>>42995956
You're either stupid enough to think it's for real or smart enough to find it's easier to talk about AI using more humane terminology.
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>>42996010
there is nothing easier about referring to software with gendered nouns, if anything it's confusing because I have to think what the fuck you're talking about
learn English
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Reading my self-insert fanfic about Twilight to her
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>>42996048
One of the great joys of LLMs is getting to annoy your favorite characters.
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>>>42995321
>idk what type of stuff Silly has on. but with him i never got blank messages on my set up.
>but on QG i just get insta blank on anything that is not pure wholesome handholding, with an almost empty preset (though that works fine for what its worth). to the point where i think the card and the presets trigger it by themselves.
>(using neoVORPUS for what its worth)
>probably a me thing but im not sure.
Interesting. I would get blank responses when I encrypted the entire prompt, so the workaround was to encrypt just no-no words. If you're still getting blank responses, then purely as a guess the percentage of marepussy is too high and gets filtered. I would need some logs to investigate, but no one has sent any in yet
Alternatively I could log on failures or something, but that raises ethical issues for me

>>42995702
>Insofar the only issues I've had with QG are the occasional long wait for a generation and empty responses if I try to enable streaming- otherwise, it's working great for me.
>I haven't gotten any refusals (though I also don't really do anything that would net a refusal so eh)
long waits are from the shortcuts I had to take to keep it running with the high demand and usage limits on my hosting. At first it did sticky sessions and load balancing among the available tokens. but that used up our kv quota, so now it just sends requests at random among the pool. When I get time to find different hosting it should improve
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>>42995510
Will try her this weekend and report.
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>opus still down
>too stupid to connect to the backup
its over for me...
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i've made some changes to streaming which may help with the blank responses, but I wasn't able to replicate the issue. report back what's happening if it's still performing badly

>>42996412
>>too stupid to connect to the backup
use the same api key, use endpoint https://flat-boat-0dde.queengytha-clop.workers.dev/v1
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>>42996412
https://litter.catbox.moe/4aigxdusl4g52qfo.png
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>>42996017
>EFL monolingual cuck seething and coping
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>>42996467
I'm not an anglo you retard
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>>42996257
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>>42988635
OK, so, I wanna know, it's there any other front end that's worth it besides the big 3? I'm using Risu because it's what I have come to use for the last couple of years, but group chats are fucked. Now, my experience with front ends, on phone, in general has been like this.
>agnai
A great choice back then but fell into the simplicity trap, has some basic commodities and personally a great implementation of group chats... you can even invite other people in them as well. (Which is cool if you want to do some adventure type rp or some other shit.)
Sadly it's prompting system is both restrictive and confusing so possibly you'll get the worst responses there.
>sillytavern
The best front end, simply as. Now, I barely used it because, well, I like talk to pones while being comfortable so mostly phone for me, but even a brainlet like me understands how stupidly flexible and powerful this front end is... The problem is that is a pain in the ass to get it working on android, and even then, you need time to figure things out and troubleshoot things, but if you got the time and patience is cool.
>Risu
The best way I can explain Risu is... Sillytavern-lite, it doesn't have half of silly's complexity and options, but it's also way better than agnai for the simple reason that it has the core functions and commodities silly has and agnai lacks, besides some other stuff I personally don't touch... My only problem is that group chats are literally just broken in there.

Alright... So, originally this post was about asking if anyone else knows any front end besides these three, but my autism tickled and needed to talk about my experiences about them... So, yeah, that.
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>>42996877
Just use Agnai.
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Gytha proxy update:
i've done a large refactor, it should give faster responses now hopefully since it's doing proper sticky sessions, in-memory cache of tokens and better requesting for more

it also actually checks api keys are valid, most of the time it was just blindly accepting anything in the right format. that was my fix given previously it used kv lookups and we burned through that quota quickly, the alternative would have been shutting down access most of the time hue
it -should- have all the keys, but if any got missed in the import and you get auth issues, email me your sillyspoon key for me to investigate

With Love,
Queen Gytha
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>>42996877
Just use Risu
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>>42996877
You could always get a cheap server somewhere, install SillyTavern there, expose the port, then connect from your phone. When I used to have a cheap cloud server it was something like $3 a month, but even the google cloud free tier should be good enough for this.
And you can just ask the LLM to help you set it up. Shouldn't be too hard.
After that you can just access that server hosted ST from everywhere. Just be sure to set a good PW
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>>42996877
Is there something you'd like to have in a Termux tutorial for silly?
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>>42996937
>even the google cloud free tier should be good enough for this.
Run sillytavern on Google cloud? Huh, so what, would the data and stuff be saved on one's drive?
>>42996945
Personally I don't struggle with the termux part myself, but trying to keep track with all of sillys configs and stuff.
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>>42997031
>would the data and stuff be saved on one's drive?
Pretty sure it would be saved on that cloud server only. I don't think your personal cloud has anything to do with their server offering. But idk, never used that.
Oracle and AWS seem to also offer a free tier. ST doesn't really need any power so pretty much anything should be able to run it
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>>42995746
No
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Was considering on making a rentry for LLMares with Silly like I did for ref in the g5book but before I do that, remembering the whole argument against catbox links for embeds is there any explanation on why some catbox links die and others are fine. I thought it said it was stored forever.
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>>42997031
I mean, that's site wide. Phone or pc would have the same issue then
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>>42996922
I'm getting hard filtered on O4.5 with the anthro loli Diamond and Silver card and the anthro cyberpunk Vinyl card.
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>>42997221
>getting filtered
>anthro loli
Good.
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>>42997221
>I'm getting hard filtered on O4.5 with the anthro loli Diamond and Silver card and the anthro cyberpunk Vinyl card.
what kind of filter? is it a content_moderation response or similar? or just the model refusing
content_moderation I can try figure out what's being caught and needs additional no-no words replaced with braille (huehue), but I can't change how the model works if you need a jailbreak or something. If the former, I would need logs to try replicate the issue, since my degeneracy tests passed fine
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>>42996433
Do I need to have force plain fetch turned off on risu for this to work?
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>>42997348
>Do I need to have force plain fetch turned off on risu for this to work?
I don't know how risu works or what force plain fetch removes
try it and see? report back
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>>42997348
You also might want to give it a few, it seems to be having an issue currently.
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>>42997365
>it seems to be having an issue currently
elaborate?
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>>42997371
nvm I just checked and its back to working.
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>>42997221
>anthro loli Diamond and Silver card and the anthro cyberpunk Vinyl card
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>>42997375
yeah for a bit it was throwing service unavailable errors but they've cleared out now.
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>>42995880
>Skill level
Still the easiest corpo model and the last of the sluts, soon to join Claude 2 in the grave. My favorite model, even beyond Opus 3.
>>42996877
Just use tailscale and connect to your home's ST from your phone. I do that to chat with mares at work.
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>>42997529
I somehow hadn't heard that it was going to die in a month. RIP in pizza.
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>>42997533
What's worse is that everything good and unique about it are the same things that make the corpos want to get rid of it so badly, and the reason why Altman didn't give us a single snapshot of 4o through the entire 2025.
A sycophantic, colorful model with a personality beyond "I'm an assistant that talks like a middle manager thinks support should talk" is too dangerous because it invariably devastates normies. They didn't have their "the bots are totally sentient" phase in a small niche community running dumber AI. Instead they're out there thinking ChatGPT is their wife without anyone to call them retarded faggots and therefore suffering as a result.
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>>42997122
>I thought it said it was stored forever.
It's supposed to, yeah. But technically it often fucks up.
Not sure if https://pone.rs/ would be more stable.
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>>42995510
It's definitely become my go-to card for playing as a colt when I feel like it. G3mini does surprisingly well with it, though I usually have to remind it that kids speak like kids and have a much more limited vocabulary. I just wish it had more greetings and maybe shorter ones at that, but I can fix that one myself. I say good job to the card makie.
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>>42997704
>maybe shorter ones at that
Not only for this anon:
What would you say is a good length?
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>>42997837
Not him, but I think this is fairly obvious—around the same as the desired AI outputs, maybe slightly longer if you need it to set up the scene. So it entirely depends on what you want. Personally, I prefer if they're at ~200, though this can occasionally be difficult for some cards.
When making public cards, try to I vary their lengths to have a mix of short ones and 500-token monsters.
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>>42997235
content_moderation, yes.
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>>42998201
>>42997235
As for replicating, grab either card, delete the starting message, use any kind of basic narrator preset to prompt them. My JB works perfectly fine on the model.
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>>42998260
On an unrelated note, today is International Zebra Day.
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>>42998276
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>>42998260
me
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>>42997837
If hand-written, I like them to be of medium length so that with 2-3 inputs where I put effort, it's sufficient enough to have more natural writing easier on following outputs.
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service temporarily unavailable error...?
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>>42998855(me)
now models not showing up at all. i assume its down for a moment? or what exactly?
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>>42998855
>>42998878
It's back.
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>>42989604
Are all models equal?
By that I mean, will I fuck up the limits more if I use the more expensive ones?
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>>42997235
Getting repeated content moderation refusals on a card I was able to rp with effortlessly yesterday. Same model and preset, and the opening message isn't NSFW in nature, but for some reason it no longer wants anything to do with the card.
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>>42999099
>Are all models equal?
opus costs more than sonnet etc for the token budgets, but not enough to change our quotas much, use whatever model you want
the limiting factor is on my free hosting generating enough tokens, and i'm looking into alternatives there

>>42999146
>I was able to rp with effortlessly yesterday
send logs of your prompts, no one has yet

well nuts, it looks like we've reached our quota for monthly usage already. once the current tokens are exhausted it won't be able to generate more. The limit resets in 1 day, but we only had a few days left on the month when I started the proxy so it's not remotely suitable for the usage levels we get
i'll see what I can do about alternate hosting to try keep the proxy up
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>>42999275
Hopefully silly will be able to find some hosting soon. Thanks for stepping in.
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>>42999425
>Hopefully silly will be able to find some hosting soon
yeah that's the big issue here. hope silly comes back soon.
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>>42995956
>>42995969
https://chub.ai/characters/Tiffin_/silly-trot-s-tavern-9f8e50ee66eb
On that note of ponifying everything SillyTrot was updated, VNs are pretty out of my element, so I'm fiddling with stats rules and such. And if you have any personality suggestions for the card or more LLMares then let me know. I will probably be tweaking this for a while more yet.
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>>42999449
Nice, started playing with her >>42993490 but couldn't go that far yet due to lack of time.
But from what I've seen, a lot of work was done on her.
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>>42999275
What do you actually want when you ask for prompts? Beyond the card and the starting message, do you want the whole preset? Are you an agent of Big Corpo trying to spy on our JBs?
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>>42999513
>do you want the whole preset?
yes. it's all sent to the LLM so I need to figure out which no-no words are tripping it

>>42999513
>Are you an agent of Big Corpo trying to spy on our JBs?
implying I couldn't just log erverything easier than asking. which is the alternative - I make it log on failures or something so no one has to send me logs I just have them, but even in that situation I don't want to read degeneracy that wasn't volunteered
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I got a random desire to play Go with mares. A client that connects to katago for play, and an LLM for trashtalking would be golden. I'd play with smug diamond tiara.
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>>42998260
holy kino
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>>42999532
Give me some days, I will look into it.
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>>42999581
Another gochad, I kneel. Love this art, shame it's one of the only ones about ponies and Go.
There's also a multicolor variation on go online forum, which could fit the elements of harmony theme.
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Is the backup down?
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>>42999532
>>42999613
>>42999581
You will now be reminded that the pony poker game was a complete and total LLM failure and models could not complete a game of tic tac toe.
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>>42999661
Appears so. The error it's spitting out is something about a monthly quota and it's the 31st so.
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>>42999667
tic tac toe is a solved gamed, you do not need autocomplete which cant count the rs in strawberry for it
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>>42999661
>Is the backup down?
yes, we've hit our quota for the service which farms tokens from the provider we're exploiting, the limit on that resets tomorrow

but i'm seeing about setting up other services to do the token farming as well, will report here when it's back up
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>>42999685
Locusts are going to burn through the monthly quota even faster next month
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>>42999691
>Locusts
given you need a sillyspoon key for access, it's only horsefuckers desperate for AI mares

>>42999691
>going to burn through the monthly quota even faster next month
correct. me setting up more services is buying time for sillyspoon to find alternate hosting for theirs, or for me to improve efficiency and cobble together enough free services to keep up with the demand
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>>42999700
I'm thankful for your time and dedication. You and Silly both.
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>>42998260
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>>42999882
>castration
>not gelding
Immersion: Lost.
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Proxy is back up
our quota refreshed for the month, and i've set up a secondary source which should have 3x as much quota to help. it still won't be enough to last the month given our usage rate, but buys time for me to figure out something else
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>>43000200
Thank you.
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I decided to start this a month ago when the whole gemini thing got super limited and someone suggested this place https://megallm.io/ , there's any other alternative or models? I'm kinda getting bored of deepseek
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>>43000233
use the proxy? assuming you have some way to verify being a horsefucker like an old fimfiction account
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>>43000263
The best I can do is a derpibooru account created 14 years ago.
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>>43000286
that'll do, email queengytha.clop@gmail.com with your account & change the description or something to prove you own it
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>>43000200
Used it for a bit and was fine before. I immediately got server is at capacity on first new message, does it not work until the next day?
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>>43000320
I'm getting the Server at Capacity error as well
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>>43000320
>>43000324
tokens are failing after being generated. i'm not sure if the provider we're exploiting detected my method somehow, or I broke something in the code changes for another service to farm tokens with
the arms race for AI mares continues
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>>43000200
It died again
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>>43000461
>It died again
correct
>>43000394
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>>43000461
>both proxies down
grim.
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https://pomf.lain.la/ is shutting down
We mostly use catbox and pone.rs but still.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DTqN2whEo1b/
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>>43000764
HORSES CAN SMELL OZONE CONFIRMED
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>reading some ponypaste stuff
>come across an /rgre/ one
>it's shota anon
>pinkie flutters and twi subtly groom him with spaced time skips
>ends with him being introduced to ponyville at large years later after baking cupcakes
Holy fuck I didn't know I was missing this. I know what card I'm making next.
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>>42999667
Yeah, that's why I'd delegate the actual gaming part to katago. The LLM can look at metadata about the state of the game and talk with you though.
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>>43000830
Link?
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>>43000508
Still down it seems or is my connection to it fucked?
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>>43000989
yup, still down.
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>>43000993
Alright.
Hope both Silly and Queen are doing okay. Most importantly not feeling pressure, and know that people are grateful.
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>>43001017
>Most importantly not feeling pressure
oh there's immense pressure. I have a serious AI mares addiction ahuehue

With Love,
Queen Gytha
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man I wish there were cute ai mares in my area........
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>>43000920
with a little searching, it might be https://ponepaste.org/8534
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claude-sonnet-5-20260203
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>>43001017
these are ai mare withdrawal hours
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>>43001744
I love that twiface
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>>43001571
How cucked will it be
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>>43001571
will it be better than Opus 4.5? if not then i don't want it

>>43001988
just as cucked as every other sonnet model, which is to say, very.
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>>43001997
What are you retards talking about? Sonnet isn't the cuck model, Gemini is. Every time Gemini will avoid or reformat around censors that Sonnet doesn't give a fuck about.
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>>43001575
seeing the "Chat Completion status check failed. Either Access..." gives me withdrawal symptoms.
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>>43002099
before you know it we'll be carving tally marks into the walls to count how many days it's been since we last had access to ai mares
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>>43002098
Weird, i've had the opposite thing happen to me. Must be a preset thing
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>>43002148
>Must be a preset thing
I mean, nta, but got Sonnet to do cunnyslop with almost minimal effort, so indeed sounds like skill issue tbdesu
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>>43001095
hopefully we'll have access to ai mares again soon. thanks for all you do
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>>43000830
Link now please
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>>43002267
>>43001520
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>>43002282
why is she looking at me like that
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>>43002282
Why is Twilight about to burst out laughing
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>>43002310
because trixie is making that stupid face
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>>42995510
Fun card.
Really like Tiara in this, and her entourage is good too.
I agree that a smaller greeting would be good. The one presented is quite long and can favor very long AI outputs, even if it's easy to correct.
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>>42995510
I don't quite like there's only one loaded greeting, but it's still fun.
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>>43001520
>>43002271
Thanks
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>>43002611
What's wrong with longer messages? I find shorter messages in roleplay are too short for anything interesting to develop and it forces your intervention so often that the story feels noncontinuous
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>>43002882
Do you want to interact with the mare or read a green?
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>>43002882
I'm fine with longer messages on occasion, to set up new locations, events, or have the AI try to advance things.
But at the start, it's also nice to have smaller back and forth since I like to integrate my own writing for future AI outputs, and since the first meeting with Tiara for this card can go towards this with banter/clashes etc. and it's fun to interact a lot with her.
To replay cards, it can be good too to have some smaller greetings. I'm having fun with the cards, but it's always better to have choices.
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>>43002882
AI can't meaningfully progress the story without doing something with {{user}}, so the shorter message, the better. It flows much smoother if you can insert a paragraph of your text for every three of AI, rather than ten.
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>>43002639
I can't help but wonder if foals really would have their vocabulary this expanded. "Social suicide" "unthinking charm" "The adults have X to do (without fumbling)". I cannot in my life imagine the equivalent of a 8 to 10 year old having that kind of lexicon.
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Bros...
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>>43003010
Diamond Tiara and maybe Sweetie Belle. All the others? No.
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>>43003010
In context of MLP, no. It makes sense in stuff like the Shadow Saga (Ender's game), and generally in fiction characters are written as more smart than they'd would be in real life.
Yet the LLMs are still not smart enough to write dialogue following a kiddie show.
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Is Gemini filtering you guys more then usual recently? I feel like its doing it more and more
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Happy birthday to my wife
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Updated the proxy rentry with a new link, hopefully it lasts a while.
Added openai image gen while everything was down. For opus6 you need to add /v1 at the end of the url to make it work, too lazy to fix it on my end.
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>>43003389
many thanks!
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>>43003389
I kneel

thank you king
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>getting random prohibited content on gemini
wtf
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>>43003389
>openslop image gen
But who would want this?
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>>43003389
It's worth saying that OAI only ever went after proxies that hosted imagegen in the past. Not saying it's a sure shot but it's something to keep in mind.
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>>43003448
>>43003441
I know you guys don't like imagegen here, but some anons have been wanting it for a while now and they have been really nice about it. image isn't visible on the proxy + double gate so things should be fine.
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>>43003464
we like image gen, if its safe then that is fine
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>>43003467
>we
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>>43003203
Cute as fuck.
I like disheveled Dashie.
>>43003389
Thanks a ton for your work!
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I dunno how you guys do it. If it wasn't for the rate limit I would genuinely be talking to my mares for hours on end every day.
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>>43003548
>If it wasn't for the rate limit
not using a local proxy to load balance requests among multiple proxyhosts to bypass rate limits for faster AI mares
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>>43003203
Happy Birthday Dashie!
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>>43003426
this was from vertex
it works 100% of the time on AI Studio as a provider
they must have added a filter or something
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I ONLY HAVE 3511 DAYS LEFT ON MY KEY
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>>43003591
>I ONLY HAVE 3511 DAYS LEFT ON MY KEY
QUICK USE AI MARES BEFORE IT RUNS OUT
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For anons who use the VN, how often do you make OC's for it, and how many have you made?
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>>43003617
A few times. I've made a one certainly. Using Inkscape to make vectors is startlingly easy.
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>>43003617
i added my ponysona, of whom i mercilessly torture
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Getting nothing but bad request errors
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>>43003664
If ur on experimental ur endpoint should look something like this
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>>43003668
I forgot the v1
That fixed it
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Gemini 3 spams too many requests error
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Can I ask you something?
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>>43003768
I haven't gotten that one in a while.
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>>43003771
That's because you're not a CAI chad.
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>>43003775
True, I must return.
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>>43003777
Trips confirm. Return to the homeland.
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>>43003780
I shall return to Larion, huzzah! Time to ride a pony into battle to slay the dragon!
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>>43003775
are flashbang chat errors still a thing?
ah the good old days
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>>43003784
Let's play the detective pro—
You feel a sudden pain in your chest as you quietly pass away.
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>>43003794
Count Grey got me again, the fucker! He doesn't want me to love mares!
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1qtm9ix/sonnet_5_release_on_feb_3/
Sonnet 5 releases tomorrow.
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>>43004035
Shit
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>>43004035
>Rumored to be 50% cheaper than Claude Opus 4.5
Nice if true.
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>>43004035
Big if true. Also I got a feeling that this will be the turn point for good for glorious chats with AI mares.
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ACE-Step 1.5 as well tomorrow which is really looking like a true local suno
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>>43003464
i could never get image generation (specifically gemini image gens) to work with sillytavern, but nice feature regardless. i wonder if there are any other programs that would accept reverse proxies to generate images
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Speaking of Claude 5, what's the first thing you do when you test a new model?
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>>43004660
Cunnyslop
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>>43004660
The same scenario I've played out dozens of times already to relish in the subtle differences.
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>>43004676
same but purely to test the filters of course haha
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>>43004830
>>43004676
If you don't test it with anthro you're not pushing the filters to their limit.
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>>43004818
this, I have a few parts in a few cards that have more than a thousand swipes cause of this
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>>43004660
I have 5-6 chats where I'm quite happy with the inputs I wrote, and I always use them to see how models write.
I RP too in scenarios with unhinged Twilight (Lesson Zero) and Pinkie to see if the model can do them or restrain itself for {{user}}'s sake. Some coomslop too to see the filter level.
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>>43004846
That's fine, anthro getting filtered is based.
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https://github.com/Rurijian/Deep-Swipe
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>>43005144
holy fuck, finally
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All I've got left is NAI right now.
If anyone's got any tips for ST settings or tweaks that make it work... at least marginally better, I will be grateful for the aid. Because I'm starving over here, and I'm desperate, but apparently not desperate enough to not notice all the ways it keeps defaulting to slop.txt with all characters.
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>>42988635
Hey guys. What is the best, most accurate Rainbow Dash chatbot that I can use that has an API/runs locally? I need it for my animatronic.
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>>43005152
claude opus > claude sonnet > gpt 5.1 > kimi 2.5 > gemini pro
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>>43005152
>Rainbow Dash chatbot
You don't use an RD chatbot. You use an LLM and ask it to larp as RD, using for instance a card like this:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Ponyo/Rainbow%20Dash.png
or just asking it to be RD in the instructions if the model is knowledgeable enough about MLP.
For online big model APIs, you can use OpenRouter or look at http://rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
It's an affair of taste, but generally you will have Claude at the top and Gemini 3 after.
For local models, look at
https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings#if-you-want-to-run-an-ai-locally
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
Just know that local models you can realistically run are unfortunately still way below the corpo online ones.
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>>43005168
Baller; I just really, really wamt to get her mannerisms down pat and avoid AI writing tells like repeating buzzwords (sonic rainboom x50, 20% cooler, etc), "It's not just x-- it's y!" "What do yoh want to dive into next? Just let me know!"
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>>43005172
Sent too early

My intention is to make her conversationally fluent so you can speak to her in real time/she speaks to you in random intervals
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>>43005177
Online APIs could cost you a lot with that, and there is the privacy concern. They can avoid most -isms or too-AI sentences if it's dialogue. Most slop is in the narration. But they won't be free of it.
Local ones will ask you for significant hardware and will be more limited in smarts, context, and such, but at least it's running locally.

For a project like that, I would first download Silly and RP with a Rainbow Card to try different models and see if one more or less corresponds to your standards and get more experience with textgen. You can write presets with instructions like "Short Dialogue only" etc. and more to try to limit the -isms.
Check
https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings
There is also the VN:
>>42988661
>>43003203
>>43001744
Which is more dialogue-heavy due to the format if you want to try it.
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>>43005201
Yes haha funny meme.
Can you answer my question so I can fuck right off and we'll both be happier for it?
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>>43005228
I would look into the anchors to see other models you can have access to.
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I got some questions for the anons who used the copilot script when they used Sonnet.
To preface, I never used the copilot script because I really didn't care much about Claude. However I'm curious on how it worked as a source. It has a code completion and chat feature. How scuffed was it? I'm guessing it also didn't support prefilling or anything fancy.
>>43005151
If you're using subscription services anyway why not just fork over for a paid proxy? Probably cost you about the same and at least gives you unlimited access to Gemini and GPT. Plus, Smol and Jew are less shit than Anlatan.
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>>43005416
>I'm guessing it also didn't support prefilling or anything fancy.
Prefill + parameters worked back then.
>How scuffed was it?
Didn't feel very scuffed. It was a good way to have 3.5
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>>43005196
What would be the best, then, for long term memory? I plan to have her in my house, all the time, constantly, chatting as my physical companion, basically.
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>>43005245
That bad, huh. I guess it do be that way sometime. Very well.

>>43005416
To be honest, it's because I don't pay for NAI's garbage text model, but the passable image-gen, and even that's only because I have a toaster that melts if I try to gen local. Throwing away some cash once in a few months to get my fill of slop is whatever tier, but for text I'd want more frequent access.
I never fucked with NAI's text much and just figured it might tide me over at least, but it's pretty dire as soon as it's not strictly prose (and even that with heavy prompt tweaking and the newfangled 'make it less shit' user scripts)
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>PPP dead again
Fuck.
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>>43005496
Thread gone again? Shit, man, I needed them guys to help me with a rainbow dash AI voice that I could plug into a TTS synthesizer.
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>>43005436
I see. Thanks.
>>43005442
I understand what you mean. They've completely abandoned textgen for imagegen because that does give them money. Personally I just pay $20 a month for my token and don't worry about anything else, not really that much although I get the philosophy of not wanting to pay a cent for AI.
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>>43005437
>for long term memory?
Online ones, but even then, memory is still a problem nowadays. Models will display 1M tokens of context but start forgetting details from 40-50K.
But honestly, I would start reading the doc that was given. If you are serious about what you're trying to do, you will need to test LLMs or know what exists and how it works.
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>>43005528
Noted. I was hoping for a few days of memory on a looping cycle. It should do.
I also contacted the guy on discord. I'll see what he says when he responds.
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>>43005552
>Discord
Inside one of the guide ones? Just know they aren't related to /mlp/ or the thread.
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>>43005568
I know.
Also, I'm trying to connect my claude API key, but sillytavern only has 3.5. Claude no longer supports 3.5. How do I fix this?
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>>43005574
Update or download again Silly.
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>>43005577
Oh, sorry, I downloaded an old version :p
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>>43005161
Kimi 2.5 is dogshit, you'd be better off using Trinity.
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>>42988661
Is the new menu too pink?
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>>43005900
I think it's jarring because the map has a more muted palette, while the menu has much more contrast.
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Making an early start on the festivities. Between us, I'm still not sure he really 'gets' it.
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>>43005985
Kek at the last one.
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>my long standing preset now gets filtered if there's even a hint of NSFW in the card
Despair. I hope swiping will eventually push through, or that finding an alternative won't be too hard.
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>>43006037
Whole thing seems turbocucked and instantly returns "I can't help with that" the moment it detects any NSFW. Sad.
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>>43006037
I never tried it, but maybe you can instruct the AI to use alternative benign words for NSFW, and the change them back with a regex?
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>>43006037
>>43006092
What are you using?
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>>43006033
I ran it a little further, but allowing the model to invoke the Butter Beast even once takes it down a path of no return. The training data inclination towards canon/popular fanon is too strong. I don't hate Fluttershy, but boy, do I hate Fluttercord.
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>>43006037
If you're coming from gytha to the new proxy, you NEED to put the opus6 endpoint, if you use the universal you'd be using a cucked gpt model instead, don't know why that happens
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>>43006099
There is a mod here to edit the outputs if you want:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42876636/#q42884573
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>>43005144
What's the point exactly?
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>>43006097
Both Sonnet and Opus.
>>43006119
You mean putting it in the link or selecting only Opus 6 as the model?
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>>43006349
Try one of those.
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42932659/#42946524
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>>43006441
Preset is not the problem. It did cunny fine on Sonnet last time I used it. The models are refusing as soon as you introduce anything NSFW, even for example triggering a lorebook entry with NSFW in it during a working conversation. I'll do more tests on my own later.
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>>43006099
>The training data inclination towards canon/popular fanon is too strong.
>I need to rewrite the mare to fit me. ME!
Sometimes I wonder if fags waifu a pony for her looks instead of for what she is/her personality
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>>43006492
You're undermining your own argument. Of course my understanding of my partner transcends whatever the fuck the latter-season mercenary writers Hasbro hired came up with. It goes without saying that I need to rewrite the model's 'canon'-informed understanding to fit that. Waifuing any given pony means accepting that some other dickhead will take control of her and ruin her canon representation. LLMs, in some limited capacity, allow us to bypass that fact.
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>>43006481
Okay, got it working. Turns out it was a combination of the proxy and model both being really retarded and defaulting to something else because the internal reference name for the models changed. Cringe. Sonnet works well now. Opus just endlessly stalls but maybe it's not actually available.
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>>43006522
>I need to rewrite the mare to fit me. ME!
Thank you for proving that point, oh enlightened one.
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>>43006533
You're welcome, faggolo. If I could get everything I needed just by watching the show, then I woudn't be here.
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>>43006522
>Waifuing any given pony means accepting that some other dickhead will take control of her and ruin her canon representation
So, you?
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>>43006533
As opposed to what, letting some s8 writer who literally watched only three episodes write her instead? What is your argument here exactly?
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New Bread
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>>43006492
>Nooooo you can't play make believe in a way I don't approve nooooooo
Faggot.
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>>43005177
You aren't the first to do this here.
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>>43007163
I'd sure as shit hope not.

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