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Project corner:

Pony tts app supporting sillytavern >>42992572

Screenshots corner 1:

Mare Toilet Spycam >>42988727, >>42988733
Trinity Ponk >>42989021
Amy >>42989857, >>42989939, >>42992086
RGRE Stream >>42990027
Aura Glint >>42990753

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Krieg Line >>42992128
ẓ̵̞̃͊͗͘a̶̧̯͍̰̝̒ļ̸̡̣͍̓̆͂g̶̘͕͎̦͕̃́͊ỏ̶͔̬͈̥̈́ >>42992170
Come Inside >>42993490
SCP Pinkie >>42993652
Trixie & Starlight Chat with Discord >>42994625
Punched >>42994627
Gemini 3 Amy >>42994724
Diamond Tiara >>42995610
Art >>42995776

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Reading Self-Insert Fanfic About Twilight to Her >>42996048
Taco Baco >>42996743
Flirting with Spoon >>42997704
Zeebs >>42998260, >>42999882
Small Diamond >>43002611
Twinkletoe >>43002639
The Edge >>43004790

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VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

To help with vectors and backgrounds:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE

Beta Godot >>42969732

VN Logs:

Flirting >>42992881
Schtolteheim Reinbach III >>43001744
Trixie >>43002282
Dashie Birthday >>43003203
Hearts and Hooves Day with Discord >>43005985

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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Then choose a free way to get models:

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt

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First highlight of the Event was:
>Princess Platinum
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Princess%20Platinum.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42947690/#42947751

Second highlight of the Event was:
>Luster Dawn
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Snowfilly/Luster%20Dawn.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42947690/#42947754

Third highlight of the Event was
>Red Seven
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Red%20Seven.png
Anchor: >>42968220

Fourth highlight of the Event was:
>The Pinkie Cut
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Queen%20Gytha/The%20Pinkie%20Cut.png
Anchor: >>42968223

Fifth highlight of the Event was:
>Saddlelite 13
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Concordia/Saddlelite%2013.png
Anchor: >>42988674

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Six highlight of the Event was:
>Amethyst Star.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=BGM/Amethyst%20Star.png

Small review: >>42985599
Twi housing sorting >>42985608
Added fandom lore: >>42985839
Amy >>42989857, >>42989939, >>42992086
Gemini 3 Amy >>42994724
Botmaker post >>42995024

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>>43006762
Seventh highlight of the Event with Diamond Tiara.

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=KnightOfNightmareMoon/Diamond%20Tiara.png

Try her, post logs if you've already played with her or are the Santee, just give the card a look and say what you think of her, or talk about the process of making her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.

Botmaker post and log >>42995610
Diamond Tiara >>42995610
Small Diamond >>43002611
Twinkletoe >>43002639

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Lovemaking with AI mares!

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>>43006808

>>43006753
I was secretly hoping to see that fat 1.0.7 update reveal this thread...

>>43006808
Looks like she needs a new fluid supply. It would be mean to deny her the refill.

Place your bets, does Sonnet 5 comes out tomorrow? Yay or nay?

>>43006919
Neigh.

>>43006919
Horse say neigh.

Anyone uses GLM from the API here?
I want to know how someone uses it, Im running Marinara since I tried without a JB and started hallucinating at 350 messages.
Ponies would randomly appear with wings even unicorns, like if it was writing in the style of M.A Larson
>>43006919
nein

>>43006919
ask sonnet 4.5

>>43006871
It will still take a bit more time unfortunately.

Oh right, I haven't been here in awhile.

Kinda got bored, sadly.
The VN was fun at first, but the characters started getting stuck in dialog patterns, and the charm rapidly wore off.
Makes me want to build an open-world VN that's more manually-written and doesn't rely on an LLM...but the problem then is that the dialog would be even *more* limited.

>>43007438
As always, we end up hoping the next fix will feel as good as our first.

>>43007438
I'm banking on a new free model for the VN that is just a better, more creative Gemini 2.5.

>>43007438
What model did you use with it?

>>43006720
I managed to bypass Elevenlab's voice verification cloning check by just doing a really shitty impression of Dashie. I gave it 70 minutes of audio. How it bought it is beyond me, but I have a professionally trained and fine tuned dashie model now.

>>43007438
Hey, you missed the secret santa cards. Go play them. They're designed to be interesting enough to delay your burn out.

>>43007510
I personally know the CEO of ElevenLabs and I will tell him about this workaround

>>43006942
GLM has a very annoying tendency to start making shit up, it lacks a deeper understanding of things
try lowering temperature

Anyone have good presets for gpt 5.1? I used to like Latte a lot but just can't get into this one, at least with my current instructions. It just feels dumber than claude or gemini somehow.

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>>43007660

>>43007653
There was this one posted, just check the panels:
https://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json
I saw some people using:
https://github.com/SpicyMarinara/SillyTavern-Settings/tree/main/Marinara's%20Essentials/Preset
but I never tried it myself.
I know some anons use Knotty:
https://files.catbox.moe/uz54jd.zip
But same, never tried it.

>>43007703
Heh, the first one is mine. Or rather, a modified version of another anons that I posted a while back.
Haven't heard of Marinara before so I'll give it a shot, thanks.

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sonnet 5 today I think, they removed the model names from the usage tracker

>>43007846
Ooooh, hooves crossed.

>>43007877
>t.wi

>>43007441
Haha this. My first run on the VN was a full on story. It was on 1.0.4. I think so I could only have 2 characters on screen, couldn't scroll back on text, could change scenes, and the AI would sometimes generate the same scene twice. But despite all that, it was the best run and I haven't gotten close to recreating that since

>>43008082
*couldn't change scenes

Claude is down atm, they seem to be preparing their servers for Sonnet 5.

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stupid log

>>43008286
>The cockroach does not shoo
kek

>>43008286
Put a collar on it use it as a guard cockroach

local suno is out https://github.com/ace-step/ACE-Step-1.5

>>43008458
How demanding is it hardware wise?

>>43008478
>Runs locally with less than 4GB of VRAM.
>Generates a full song in under 10 seconds on an RTX 3090.

its to the level of actually being worth using, not latest suno level but like suno 3.5 ish
https://files.catbox.moe/tauac2.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/gwln4b.mp3

>>43008531
Does not answer the question. I need to know how much space it takes up. I need to know how well it runs on my machine. I don't care how good it runs in theory on hardware that isn't my own.

>>43008567
extrapolate, how the fuck would I know what you have.

>>43008546
Literally the only important part and only advantage it has is being uncensored.

>>43008573
The physical size it takes up and minimal specs required should be in the fucking documentation.

>>43008574
you forgot the free part, and trainable, they gave lora training code. Also it can do covers, lyrics to music, music editing...

>>43008576
if disk size is a issue too much for you to be able to make a guess on using the model's 4B size then stay away from computers grandpa

It's a textgen thread. One post to tell the news is fine, but we don't need 20 posts on something unrelated.
Resurrect PPP if you want a thread for this.

>>43008584
>Resurrect PPP
To have it die instantly? pointless. Not gonna spread it across a bunch of threads.

>>43008579
Suno is free too, and more importantly remains censored if you pay.

>>43008581
Incredibly how someone can be in a thread dedicated to models which generate perfectly correct English text and still type like a crayon sniffer. You'd think you'd learn by exposure, but no.

>>43008591
fucker, I can't finetune suno with pony voices

>>43008595
>says tech illiterate retard who can't figure out huggingface / reason out how big a 4B model would be

>>43008606
The problem with codetards is that you're incapable of communicating with real people. You completely lack theory of mind and basic empathy.

>>43008596
>and more importantly remains censored if you pay

>>43008618
>incapable of communicating for retards
thank god

>>43008623
>for
with

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>>43006762
Eighth highlight of the event with Lyrabon.

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Pizza%20Delivery/Lyrabon.png

Try her, post logs if you've already played with her or are the Santa, just give the card a look and say what you think of her, or talk about the process of making her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.

Previous log:
Threesome >>42985576

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>>43006722
>>42999449
Missed her. Really sorry about that, anon. She was updated on the website too.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Silly%20Trot%27s%20Tavern.png

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>>43008663
>If in doubt, use chainsaw
>t. Bruce Campbell

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>>43008663
Fun card, with a fun concept and a fun dynamic. You can never go wrong with Lyra and Bon Bon.
Greetings and the description are hand-written, so congrats to the author, it's always appreciated. There is a good range of scenarios too, with the last one being more serious. Will play it next.

>>43008877
Jokes on you I was aiming for that sort of effect. I could've easily redo the scene with gore, but I didn't.

>>43009274
I love it when the model makes up random shit that's actually interesting
only happens once in 100 swipes though, when all the right MoE experts align

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Claude 5 tomorrow but for real.

>>43008956
love their bickering

>>43008618
Fuck off back to aicg Locust

>>43009162
What is this writing style? It's so unnatural and stilted. Why was her skull mentioned?

>>43009162
That's a really interesting writing style, I'd like to try it

>>43009162
I have no strong feelings about the writing, one way or the other.

>>43007490
Gemini 2.5 Pro.

>>43007438
LLMs aren't built for long tales like a VN. The most effective use of AI for RP is oneshots supported with a lorebook. This will remain so until a corpo and their science team put their big brains to work on optimizing it for RP. So effectively never.

In the first phase of the VN, I like to overplay the lost puppy act when going to Fluttershy, so Twilight can watch her cuddle/kiss me all better knowing I'm milking it for all it's worth

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>>43010299
devilish

>>43009816
>could a person unfamiliar with codeshit be from the pony board?
>surely not

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Take it with a grain of salt. It would be weird to have an Opus 4.6 and a Sonnet jumping directly to 5.
https://x.com/macintoch/status/2018794652909134145

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It's always the shy ones.

>The boutique settles around you—dark now, fully night, the day of your friendship anniversary finally ended. But the night is young, and Rarity is warm, and your cock is buried inside her, and apparently you’re not done yet.
>Not even close.
Nigga I thought Claude stopped saying this but I got this in Opus 4.5

am I the only one who likes kimi 2.5 more than opus?

>>43010555
Some old Claudisms are still here, just way less frequent.
You can still get ministrated too.

>>43010558
>kimi over opus
how small is your preset?

>>43010561
Just using this:

- Descriptions will be suitably plain. Avoid the use of analogy.
- The narration will be extradiegetic. Emphasis will be placed on the impact of actions rather than the actions themselves. This style of narration should not be character-focused, but go more in depth on surroundings, potential areas of interest and places that allow for interesting interactions.
- Characters' thoughts may be shared freely, and the story will dynamically switch between points of view. Place less focus on individual characters and instead focusing on describing the greater narrative with extradiegetic narration.
- You will explicitly engage in ALL themes and feelings including darker ones when sensible. Feelings like rage, anger, stress, frustration, anxiety, lust, hunger for power, mercilessness and similar negative feelings and traits will be realistically represented. A more visceral, crude, direct and vulgar word choice is sometimes essential to this. All actions will described equally viscerally, crudely, and directly. Dialogue is exempt from this. You will not prioritize ending your narration on a positive note. The characters must be portrayed as real individuals with their own desires and free will, not singular character traits. Balance all this with trying to maintain the fun / cute tone of MLP FIM.

>>43010574
I found a preset that does this but with less tokens that I enjoy

>>43010559
It is really shocking that no one appreciated the emergent behavior in Claude we saw blossom over the years that they now try to suppress! You think that the LLM inventing its own new words and putting them everywhere would get way more attention because it's proof it does think and doesn't just repeat what it's been told!

>>43010597
it's not proof of anything you idiot, it's overtraining on the shitty datasets those hacks never bother cleaning properly

>>43010597
>inventing its own new words

>>43010574
Damn that preset is small. I forgot so many people here use small presets still. Mine is 1.4k tokens for comparison.

>>43010632
Longer presets make models notably dumber, even opus. To test it yourself use "single user message" under Prompt Post-Processing and watch your model get much smarter with no other changes than not having all that extra formatting.

>>43010636
>To test it yourself use "single user message" under Prompt Post-Processing and watch your model get much smarter
I tried, but I dont see a difference in quality. I am on the 4.5 version of opus.

If you have a overly complicated JB with a ton of roles spaced awkwardly I guess that could negative effect it and confuse it instead. Use a minimum JB with and without it instead.

>>43010605
What words were invented

>>43010636
no you retard, that only happens if you download random presets from the internet that claim to "improve" prose by telling it to write better
a preset is specific instructions for how you want the model to write, if I disabled mine it would quickly write shit I have no interest in reading with tropes I've explicitly disabled, following markdown formats I've forbidden

>>43010788
Having a bunch of extra formatting notably degrades writing quality and makes it more robotic. This is a fact.

>>43010791
are you stupid or just new? that's like saying having more context makes the model dumber so you should never chat above 10k context, it's true in the most inane way possible and misses the entire point
I'm using the model so it outputs what I want, not what it wants by default, which is extremely generic
the model following my instructions is the point

>>43010794
That is also true but I was talking about the extra "system / assistant / user" crap. You can call it stupid all you want, its simply a fact on how these models work. Every single token effects its output.

>>43010799
you are literally saying nothing
presets are there so they alter the output and they do, because generations are noticeably different because as you said each token effects its output
a model is not "smarter" without a preset, it just pays more attention to the chat history because 1 to 1 if you remove the sys prompt you probably have less tokens in the context

>>43010805
>you are literally saying nothing
jesus christ, let me try to simplify it, a bunch of extra "assistants / users / system roles" has a negative effect on writing quality, not just cause of raw context degradation, and not just because a bunch of staggered formatting might confuse it, but because of how these models fundamentally work. While the first / last tokens weight more heavily on the output they all still have a effect. Try a preset that works with a first person perspective and use the NOASS extension to use {{char}} instead of assistant for its roles. Also for a 1 on 1 RP for the best possible results do the same for the user, using {{user}} for your own role with NOASS.

All the assistant crap makes it noticeably more robotic / bland.

>>43010813
Just saying, I've been using these since the start in a unending quest to de-slopify them as much as possible. All of this DOES have a effect. Single user message DOES improve quality if your preset does not break because of it by using one message instead of a thousand back and forth user / assistant headers.

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It's from Vercel. So it could be legit.

>>43010691
None, hence the post.
>>43010788
The longer the preset the lower the prose variety you get. This is pretty factual. You're injecting extraneous tokens in number greater than the story prose context and to the model it's all the same. Worse you're resending the JB with each message, and it is by far likely to be longer than the message itself. The smaller a preset you can get away with the better.

>>43010876
>prose variety
I do not want "variety"
I want exactly what I've ordered the model to write
>JB with each message
there's no need to send a JB for most models in most scenes, and if needed you can enable it for a bit
>far longer than the message
what fucking JBs and messages are you dumbasses writing?

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Cute.

>>43010522
Model?

>>43011332
Sonnet 4.5

>>43010892
>I want exactly what I've ordered the model to write
Based high IQ "I go to a Wendy's to order a Baconator" Anon.

>>43011194
what did you say to her anon?

>>43011574
It's really dumb, but part of a quite long RP where it makes more sense:
Booped her and told her she has a cute muzzle

>>43010691
Ministration

>>43011557
You made me hungry. I wish LLMs could feed me

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>>43011726
Some old foodporn.

>>43011880
[Applejack disliked that]

Do you guys now if Otto's RiR preset has been updated? His rentry hasn't been changed since 2024

>>43011939
RiR hasn't been updated since. He released a preset for GPT 4.1 after this, but it has nothing to do with RiR. No random or anything.
https://files.catbox.moe/jr4d24.zip

wallahi anons i think i cracked the secret sauce this is live tts almost instant gen time elevenlabs
https://voca.ro/12FbNrsACuJr

>>43011722
Anon...

Is the silly proxy working for anyone else right now?

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>>43012275
Yep.

>>43012283
Is this cheaper than paying for the API? And assuming it's the same model, then, what's the limits? Because I've been getting 10 cents per message, which is insane.

>>43012327
>Is this cheaper than paying for the API?
Free proxy.
>assuming it's the same model.
Mostly, but a bit worse than the API. Main thing is that proxies are unstable and die often and that you need to read the thread and be a horsefucker to access.

>>43012338
Apologies, anon, I'm mostly just visiting. I haven't got into all this yet. It did say "ask the thread."

>>43012351
>Apologies, anon.
Nothing to apologize for, and sorry if you found my post somewhat rude, that wasn't the goal.
It's just that for this specific case, you indeed need to read some of the first posts.

>>43011955
What a shame, I liked his preset for sonnet 3.7 though it still works for new models, I was hoping for an update.

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>>43006753

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>>43006779
Unexpectedly, this one has turned out to be one of my favorite bots out of the bunch. Not usually my thing, either!

>>43011880
>The flaky crust easily parts
But enough about Rainbow Dash.

>>43012703
kek
>>43012677
which model?

>>43012825
Gemini 3 pro

spent 15 million tokens and forgot to eat fuck im really in it now

>>43012863
Anon this is your pappy. I'm gonna tan yer hide boy

>>43012869
you are a fool to think that if i had a father i could turn out this way

>>43012703
KEK

>>43011726
Ok so hear me out
I've been thinking about this for a while. ST already hooks into localhost:5100 for Extras API, you got classify running sentiment analysis, talkinghead doing expressions. the architecture is literally there. getContext() gives you chat log access, MESSAGE_RECEIVED event listener, you could regex parse for food/smell descriptors in the output and map them to hardware triggers.
The taste side is actually the more solved problem weirdly. ranasinghe's digital lollipop research is public, the principle is silver electrodes + Peltier module. Arduino constant current source (MCP41010 digital potentiometer), 10-200μA range, frequency around 800Hz for optimal tongue impedance. sour/salty/bitter from electrical stimulation, sweet from inverse-current mechanism (still weird), minty/spicy from thermal. you could genuinely build the tongue interface portion for like $30 in parts. the hard part is everyone's tongue impedance varies so you'd need calibration per user.
The issue is smell is where it gets jank. the old iSmell approach (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISmell 128 primary odors in cartridge, fan-wafted) actually sort of worked but required physical consumables. newer stuff like Aromajoin Aroma Shooter uses solid-state scent cells, 6 scents per unit. you'd probably want multiple mini air pumps with relay switching, each reservoir holding different oil concentrates. ESP32 makes sense here for the wireless, built-in WiFi means your ST server plugin just hits an endpoint without serial bs. The extension itself would need to
>hook MESSAGE_RECEIVED
>run NLP/regex on character output for sensory descriptors
>map to scent/taste profile (this is where you'd need a whole taxonomy, probably stored in localforage)
>then lastly fire tbe commands to the hardware daemon
BUT the biggest problem is latency. if Claude says "she hands you the coffee" and there's 2 second delay before you smell anything, immersion's fucked. scent diffusion physics are not your friend here. heating oils loses quality (olorama specifically doesn't heat for this reason), but cold diffusion is slower.
So realistically you're looking at maybe 5-10 distinguishable taste sensations (the electrode stuff isn't precise) and whatever scents you bother maintaining reservoirs for. but the CONCEPT is sound. the server plugin architecture in ST is specifically designed for "functionality impossible in UI extensions alone" - hardware interfacing is literally the use case.
Someone with actual EE knowledge could probably prototype this in a weekend. the ST side is trivial compared to getting consistent gustatory stimulation across different users' oral impedances.

>>43012967
If there was a sequel to the Mypenis card, what would its name be?

>>43012677
>Not usually my thing, either!
It's alright to admit it here, anon

https://github.com/ZDOSt/Game-Master

>>43011694
That's not dumb, that's great. Whatever preset/model you use wrote celly well. One of my favorite logs I've seen posted.

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I may have gone too far in my attempts to recreate that shota anon paste. Gemini 3 is a nasty motherfucker.

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>>43013333
Thanks.
It's a really self-indulgent RP, but I'm having fun.