>>42990882
It's probably wise to keep these threads monthly considering how quick they were to die. If this one goes down, wait some time before making the next one, preferably until next month or something. You do you Anonymous.

It's finally back! I'm the one who said I would install Gentoo around Chtistmas, it's a bit late but my upgrade arrived finally, and I'm not sure if I should do it I'm on Fedora now, I have everything set up and ready to use. Try convince me or something idk I'll do it around April thoughbeit when the university term ends since it's the only device I actually use even if I could set up another desktop or laptop.

>>42990882
Is this PonyOS or just a DE I don't recognise

>>42990885
>It's probably wise to keep these threads monthly
>>42991001
>It's finally back!
The duality of Anon.

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>>42991001
You don't need to if fedora just works for you. Use a VM or something if you want to dip your toes in. Gentoo is sortof neat if you want to learn more about the parts that make up a distro.
t. Gentoo user
Also
>It's finally back
This. Now I get to gush over finally getting STAX'ed after so long, kek.
Picked me up a SRM 1 MK2 for a cheap price as well.
And I also had time to give my Thinkpad t480 heads. Literally. Now I wish everything had heads or at the very least coreboot.

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>>42990885
>considering how quick they were to die
I don't think that's the case with this thread
I mean, I assume that last time was just bad luck (sometimes indirectly dragged down by a sliderfag) and that it was the holiday season.
It's not like this was a bumpfest before that, I remember it being more active than other generals.

>>42991001
pretty sure PonyOS doesn't have Wifi or BT, (or any of the other listed programs) So i'd guess it's some themed DE

>>42990882
>Haiku
based

>>42991173
>>42991001
>they don't know how Haiku looks like
ngmi

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>>42991230
>>42991279
>>42991001
It's XFCE themed to be like BeOS/Haiku.
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6702&p=4
Pretty bizarre forum as there are people using screenfetch already back in 2010, way ahead of the reddit linux trend and in general people having desktop threads since 2006. It is weird to see it so early on, at least for me as I always felt it was a trend made up around 2012+. Anyhow, most screenshots are dead, however there are a few ones in 2007 threads that are still hosted on photobucket.

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>>42990882
Cool to see the thread again.
Not much to brag about, slowly chipping away at other tasks, in hopes of getting to pony projects within this century. A Pebble watch face with time change animations heavily inspired by FiM intro sequence sounds delightful. ETA the next year of cartoon horse.
Very glad that KurobaEx guy came back to fix captcha and work on the app a bit again.
>>42990885
I do believe a bit of time to breathe helps this general, in general.
>>42991610
That's a good find, anon.

>arch captcha
cool

>>42991668
>KurobaEx guy came back to fix captcha
skill issue

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2 months after daily driving KDE it randomly started lagging and crashing its processes like the taskbar would simply freeze, disappear and reappear after 10 seconds
back to xfce. The only issue I might have is lack of good screen scaling on X11, although on Wayland it's weird, because some programs were displaying unscaled as if they were standard windows in 1920x1080 environment even though the scaling made it look like 720p.
It's great how I don't need to nuke my entire OS files and settings, just getting by with installing a different DE and then uninstalling the other one after changing session. Years of using Windows didn't make such concepts cross my mind.

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What is the best cheapest computer I can get to emulate PS2 smoothly? I still daily drive T420.

Why is Android such a piece of shit on chink phones? Motorola, Xiaomi, Poco, Oppo, all of them have very user hostile ads integrated into the system. Samshit is tamer but not as good as say Moto G5 in 2017. Is it this bad on iPhone?

I’ve got two SSDs:
1TB WD Black SN770
128GB Patriot P300

Currently Fedora KDE is installed on the 1TB drive (500GB partition, and other 500GB empty used to have WinGlows but I never used it so I just deleted it but I can't expand the partition while booted I need to go into a Live ISO and I'm only using 90G/488 available), I’m planning to hop to Nobara KDE (comes with codecs/drivers, and apparently it's good for playing WinGlows games o algo)

Would it be better to:
A) Install Nobara on the 128GB SSD and move all my data to a partition in the free space in the 1TB SSD then delete fedora and expand the partition to 1TB data only (or /home)
or
B) Install Nobara on the 1TB SN770 and move all my torrents and data to the 128GB drive?


Also open to other distro recommendations, I don't game much right now but I want to start gaming more since I just upgraded my PC


>>42992574
idk if it can emulate PS2 but T480 since it supports all the schizo stuff like libreboot and heads (and QubesOS?) o algo
t. noob so I could be wrong

>>42993146
no ads on ios but I think 26 the latest one do have something that can be considered ads
on older ones it does have like "ads" telling you to subscribe to icloud in settings if you count that

>>42993316
Debian XFCE

>>42993709
why would you even recommend XFCE to someone who uses KDE

>>42993316
If you mainly care about gaming, I'd recommend you don't bother and just install the whole os onto your nvme SSD and use your 128gb ssd as extra storage for whatever. It'll boot and perform faster.
For distros nobara is okay. CachyOS would also work. Or if you really don't wanna tinker with anything bazzite is fine.
>>42992574
Haven't tested it but I guess T480 should be okay. Else you can pick up a cheap NUC like clone thing with an amd APU kinda like the steam deck and that will be pretty great.

>>42993316
I tried nobara on the 128, I don't really like it I think I'm just going to stay on the same system for now, I can't be bothered to back everything up and reinstall and then sign in to everything again

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>>42992065
I know the stigma around passu, but I wouldn't mind at least slightly supporting this place, only because it's where ponies happened to come from. Unfortunately after the hack, I'm very disappointed in the evidenced negligence in security department.

>>42995067
they spent an absurd amount of money on anti-proxy measures against "Hoofman", I'm not sure if they can even afford it in the long run kek

>>42995067
also
>security
>department
it's just desuwa

>>42990882
so what's our stance on technology n equestria? is there electricity? television? radio?

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>>42990882
What would be the simplest way to get an FM/AM transmitter that would get audio from my PC to all the radio receivers across the house? I have a bunch of chink radios that are powered either by AA batteries or through USB, and they're quite convenient however all radio stations play dogshit music and more ads than music, or politics, whatever.
I don't need a far radius, say around 10 meters from the computer proximity is something I need, if I can get more, that's even better. I assume it'd be something that I'd plug into the audio jack and USB for power, or maybe just USB if it can handle audio. I'm using Linux, but I'm not opposed of setting up a Windows computer for just that. Hell, if possible, I could use an old smartphone for that if there were no software caveats and the audio would get over to the transmitter by just the headphone jack.
I did no prior research on this topic, so I'm in the blank here, expected to be spoonfed.

>>42995531
managed to find something called FM D5W2. For some reason the market is flooded only with car FM transmitters.

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>>42995531
Thanks for reminding me that Nokia N900 had hardware for it built-in. I miss that phone.

>>42995773
Really now? I wonder how far that worked, I guess around 5 meters without any walls?
FM transmission is rather iffy considering some country laws forbidding citizens from transmitting over these frequencies.

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>>42995894
Worked within a car, that much I can tell you. Could've been fun to jam a popular station for one car next to you with pony tunes instead.
Check out one of the kits they sent this phone in, I haven't seen anything else like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=324t0R9NSZk Funny how people blame the uploaded for reposting the video, meanwhile now this is the only copy I could find quickly.

>page 10
don't die on me now

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>>42998330
>putting Dashie in front of that jumpscare maze game

>>42993709
I'm doing it.
It's called Trixie, it's a sign.

>>42993814
I'm not married to any specific DE, GNOME KDE and XFCE all fine by me

>>42999124
Why is it so slow to boot

Also got this error on Fedora 43 KDE and Debian 13 fresh installs:
RDSEED32 is broken. Disabling the corresponding CPUID bit.
What causes this and is it related to why it takes so long to boot.
My drive is encrypted of course if that is relevant.

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>>42999231
>RDSEED32 is broken
Did you... come inside Rainbow Dash, by any chance? If so, I'm so sorry anon, go see a doctor at your earliest convenience.

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>>42999124
And the previous version was called Bookworm, go figure. Even though the releases are after Toy Story characters, having Trixie come after Bookworm is quite a coincidence.
>>42999231
Apparently it's microcode issue. Update bios or assume your CPU is dying. A friend had a Ryzen system that randomly had BSODs.

>>42999262
Oh shit it's over for me

>>42999268
new pc with latest bios
AMD strix halo 385

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>>42999287
Well, newest doesn't mean the best nowadays, a lot of consumers end up as bet testers. Too many people complain to me about AMD being unstable. Debian might be a wrong choice for this though, since it has Kernel from mid 2025.

>>42999287
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=310214
https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/linux-firmware/-/issues/34
How recent is the BIOS? Last year AMD had a microcode signing vulnerability discovered, so they've modified stuff(TM), and now to load newer microcode from the OS level, you need the microcode loader within BIOS updated too.
>tfw microcode loader micropony loading the microcode bit by bit with her micropony microhoof

>>42999307
9th Dec 2025
FW Desktop
It seems I can ignore this error, as far as I know it might not even be what's causing the long startup time

Other than installing Librewolf any recommendations for my fresh install?
Does XFCE not have a Clock app for like timers and stopwatch, KDE didn't either I downloaded the GNOME Clock app.

I saw someone with RD as their CPU cores in some sort of task manager thing, was that XFCE and if so how can I do it. Is there a way to get pre made themes and are there any good ones, pony themed or not.

>>42999335
XFCE is pretty barebones, you need to download separate software for that, but that's kind of what makes it stable and easy to maintain by both the developers and end users.. don't know what else I can tell you. It's not a fully fledged DE like KDE, GNOME or Cinnamon. For example I think it's still impossible to set something as trivial as date through GUI. You need to do it through terminal. It's silly, but it's how it is.

>>42999392
and there's no volume widget, and my keyboard shortcut doesn't work for some reason

might try this
https://github.com/rozniak/xfce-winxp-tc

I stick my pee pee onto my cpu

>>42999444
checked

>>42999402
There should be a volume widget, I use Debian XFCE on my laptops and I can see the volume level as a notification. Keyboard shortcuts are configurable for everything.

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>>42999335
>FW Desktop
sigh, they are a bit slow on those updates two Zen 4 FW13s here, and it seems someone already complained about this issue on their forum, but the thread OP noticed it on FW13 with Zen 5 mobo, rather than Desktop. Might be good to ask support about this, if the firmware is indeed to blame.
IIRC systemd-blame could help figure out slow boot times, also you can boot the system without "quiet splash" kernel parametrs and get more verbose logs.
>RD as their CPU cores
Putting the "eventually consistent" in non-distributed systems too, I see.
>>42999444
>tfw pinka po's cartoon physics allow her to perform extraordinarily well as thermal compound
Good on you, nonny. Checked.

What release of the MLP G4 Movie is the highest quality or highest bitrate?

>>43000479
Masochist

>>42999335
Yeah you can ignore it. I had this one for a bit before updating my BIOS was causing slow boot time too as I'm assuming the kernel does a lot of checks to asses whether rdsneed is broken

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>>42999444

>>43000103
functional programming feels like something only ponka would do

>>43001201
I disagree, it's no fun unless there's at least 3 side effects in every function
pure functions are booring

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>>42992574
i miss my t420, ran a good 4-6 hours of battery life, dual graphics on my model, great screen, classic keyboard, thinklight, and the only drawback was that it was a bit heavy
i still have it but it just gets "kernal panics" after i spilled some water on the touchpad/keyboard and now i cant click anything even with a usb mouse

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Anyone tried one of these laptop panel drivers? How much current could it draw on average?

My old laptop stopped charging the battery because the powerbrick is "too weak" suddenly and now I don't have any computer where I don't care if it's stolen. (I tried to use android phone with BT keyboard but I'd probably rather kill myself than try to use it like that)

So I wanted to gut the thing and use the panel with RPI zero and 10 000mAh powerbank but if the driver is gonna eat even half of the required power (12V 3A) then it would last only about one hour which is useless (+ I need to step up 5->12 so additional losses)

>>43001875
forgot link
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009288564057.html

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>>42999335
>I saw someone with RD as their CPU cores
that was probably me, But it was in gnome-system-monitor that's shipped in cinnamon. I tried to replicate in xfce4 but I don't think it was possible. However I might have had very old version

>>43001758
>great screen
I assume you had IPS model
>kernel panics
Reinstall? Assuming you haven't tried changing drives or anything. T420 should be able to withstand water damage, I've seen people drink beer through the drainage holes, however could be a dying motherboard or RAM. Motherboards for these should be cheap, maybe it's possible to swap in a T430 motherboard instead.
I recall X220 having poor CPU fan and people swapping X230 one for it instead.

>>42990882
What's the best graphics card I get get for cheap for ponies?

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>>43002553
that Asus card with
>20% Cooler
on the box

>>43002029
>T420 should be able to withstand water damage
The drainage holes were removed on nu-Thinkpad because they barely work.
>I've seen people drink beer through the drainage holes
Luck dice roll, even a Macbook has as good of a chance to not suvive water damage compared to T420 which equal to God awful.

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>>43001875
I've actually used something similar at one point. Technically it was an (almost) free display, but the panel itself was terrible and the PCBs would sometimes lose contact if you as much as looked at them wrong, and I had the whole thing strapped to a sophisticated monitor stand made of scrap wood. It's not something that can survive a trip in a backpack.
No idea about power draw, depends on backlight level.
Just get a cheap used laptop.

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>>43003092
Crap i wanted to use it in car going real fast on real shit roads. Part of the reason I ditched the phone was because I was jumping so much I couldn't read anything unless I enlarged the text so much I couldn't fit more than 3 lines of text on screen.
>Just get a cheap used laptop.
I wish, I would take anything that can boot into TTY, but the problem are batteries, no one around here will sell me working laptop with working battery or at price where getting battery elsewhere is worth it

I'm sorry for rantig but I'm so pissed. The laptop would work fine, I have another adapter with the exact same specs and exact same connector but It's HP and the laptop is DELL and that motherfucker turns on but refuses to charge because it's not GENUINE DELL adapter

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>>42990882
Hey anons. Wanted to share progress because I made a thread about this but I guess I vagueposted too hard.

I was dicking around with some guys the other night when they informed me of this one russian pony-bot project. I thought, hey, what if you just put a plushie over a robot dog endoskeleton? It'd move like normal, wouldn't it?

That's the story of how I am now wrist deep in this potentially up to 5-grand project.
I plan to get it done by August.

I'm making an animatronic Rainbow Dash. That actually moves with her legs, with motorized eyelids, a head that can turn, mouth that can open and close, and a local LLM & voice synthesizer for speech and conversation. It shouldn't be too hard, since all the technology is there, but the issue is I'm a huge fucking idiot with no idea what I'm doing.

I got word back from the chinese robot dog costume company and got photos of a very unrefined mockup. The current issues are that she's very wide and looks like a plank of wood right now, her neck is a little nonexistent, her legs are very stumpy and might move around weird.
All of these issues are a result of having to keep the robots naked balancing algorithms steady while having more weight on them or risk having them offbalance and prone to fall over.

They closed for Chinese New Year (year of the horse, go figure,) so I won't be able to get any more updates til I pay a 50% deposit on the $2200 they quoted me. The dog itself will be $2600, including duties and shipping, but I'm looking around for a used one.

Wish me luck, and I'lll post updates when I get them.

>>43003240
>I thought, hey, what if you just put a plushie over a robot dog endoskeleton? It'd move like normal, wouldn't it?
Problem with puting plushie over the robot is that the fabric will get damaged very quickly or it gonna look bad. If you don't care about the looks then make it more loose around the joints it will be fine I think.

>>43003250
Yes; it's gonna look terrible because the joints will chew on the fabric and such, and also it'd overheat and fucking die immediately.
SO THANK GOD that the Chinese have literally everything because I reach out and find one, singular, company that specializes in exactly this.

>>43003240
I just had an idea... this could probably be solved by giving her a bigger belly. Right now she looks like the scene after Cupcakes [HD]. Where is her tumtum? Will be there soon. Nothing this down.

Also, her chin will be more defined, as per the company. I sent them a reference of this one really good plush by TixeArt and they said they'd try their best.

I'm switching to Windows 10 IOT Enterprise LTSC.

Owari da.

>>43003803
From 11 I assume.

>>43003867
From Fedora 43 / Debian 13 (for less than one day)
I'm the goy with the new motherboard (+soldered APU and RAM)

AMD RYZEN AI MAX 385 w/ Radeon 8050S with 16GB system ram and 16GB vram
(I can reduce this which would increase system RAM, it's 32GB shared)

How bad would using windows 10 IoT be compared to Windows 11 IoT
I really don't want to use Windows 11 any version they are worse aids

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it's awesome the chinks has just as much cons as the US this year

>>43003995
Should be fine although won't surprise me if ayymd made some artificial limitation and it's only possible to use on the latest Win 10 build which isn't LTSC, iirc its last compilation was in 2023

>>43003868
>there are anons on /mlp/ that use inline extension instead of 4chan-x(t)
how many of you have userscripts while browsing 4chan?

>>43003173
...why can't you just buy a new DELL power brick?

>>43004330
It's expensive, the laptop is from ~2009 I can get original for ~30$ fake for ~20$ or beaten up used one for ~$15
Problem with used one is that I have no way of knowing whether it will also refuse to charge (the charger usually works fine otherwise) which is a problem that seems quite common for these laptops

>>43003173
Used laptops usually have dead batteries. That's good since you can buy it cheaper on average. Original used chargers in good condition cost around $15 here, and that's for 135w. 90w or 65w come cheaper but they're bad for docking station.
I daily drive ThinkPad T470 and X260, both have two batteries and they're energy efficient to the point where the fan doesn't even need to be on when doing basic tasks like web browsing. Buying a brand new battery replacement is a must, I get around 10 hours on both batteries total which is really good. The internal one lasts for almost 3 hours, it gives you enough time to swap in another external battery or get home to charge it. T470/X270 also have USB-C charging if you can provide a charging brick with 65w or more, so it's likely possible to charge them from car too. These laptops should come relatively cheap since no one wants them as they're undervolted and has 2 cores, 4 threads. I don't know what's the fuss all about though. I've used Mint Cinnamon, Debian KDE and now Debian XFCE on them all just fine. Wayland can go to hell btw.

>>43001201
Is that why I detest OOP?
T. Ponka enthusiast

>>43002029
i feel kind of retarded saying this, but no, i havent tried a new drive. honestly, when it first happened to me, i guess a part of was subconsciously like
>oh no... an excuse to buy a new thinkpad!
im notorious for getting bad models, t60P, pixel 6a, etc
but i opted for a x230t, since i could i do my first ever coreboot flash with 1vyrain, and to have a tablet model WITH a light (backlit keyboard)
ill try a different drive though

>>43005108
damn nonny, try to be less retarded in the future

i can't go back to xfce4
i've been on dwm for a little over a month now
i tried to use xfce4 but, i literally feel retarded
i genuinely can't see any reason why i should manually drag/resize a window, when dwm can do it for me
i guess this is what i'll call home for the foreseeable future

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I have to confess. I have become a kubernetes faggot.

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>>43005544
Checked.
How long have you been using it, in what scenarios, and what do you think about it? In my case:
>4 years
>deploying webshit, cloud AKS and onprem RKE2 clusters
>don't like high amount of additional tooling necessary to do "basic" things; like that it became the almost universal "Linux API" standard (managing shit is overall better than with homegrown e.g. Ansible roles imho)
I wonder what new wonderful standard of doing the same shit but it's different this time (/s but not really) we'll get in 10 years.

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>>43005590
1 year along my journey so far. I blame work for pushing me into it, but then I saw the light. Fell for k3s, but have to endure with my idiot coworker that still wants to use the legacy microk8s clusters, bitnami charts and ingress. I want to throw him out of the window. He also can't do anything outside argocd.

I'm an sbc fag so I'm currently working on a cluster across various devices for my home shit. Rpi3's, some older odroid things. Have to build some things myself, as most images haven't been made for armv7.
Bit of a long tangent after I just wanted to deploy bookstack and heptapod in a home cluster.

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>>43005626
>k3s
Decent choice, in my experience so far, as RKE2 shares plenty with it.
>microk8s
Never used it, got burned one too many times by Snap just autoupdating LXD and breaking some prod somewhere.
>bitnami charts
Tell him about the rugpull. https://github.com/bitnami/charts/issues/35164
This is one of those things I consider "additional tooling", and the drama reminded me to switch to using upstream charts (when available) and hoof-written tiny charts for smaller shit.
>ingress
ingress-nginx, I assume? I'm still considering what other implementation to switch to, given the deprecation in less than a month. I'd be happy to pass something to my coworkers, mentioning that it was recommended to me by an anonymous pony poster on a Mongolian underwater basket weaving forum.
>He also can't do anything outside argocd.
My condolences.

To other anons reading: I promise Kubernetes isn't like frontend development, with 5 frameworks abandoned every month and 10 new created to replace those. Usually the ecosystem is sane enough to be maintained by one person (or a pony!). Honestly I have a love-hate relationship with it, sometimes it feels like overengineered rocket science for cases where docker compose could be sufficient, but the more things I need to add to such compose-based projects, the closer I get to reimplementing K8s but worse. Can't see myself migrating away from it for now, despite maintenance toil it introduces by e.g. some of that additional tooling getting upgrades released multiple times a day sometimes. Buck thou, ArgoCD community chart and Renovate.
Still better than using Ansible as default tool, which doesn't track state of tasks deleted from your playbooks, so you need to litter those with "state: absent" until you're sure you've ran that on all servers applicable.
>tfw ansible pone
>state: present and looking at (You) intently
>hoof always ready to flip switches and tuck templated files in the right places
>pedantic about spaces and pretty names on her todo checklist
>enjoys the logistics of shipping snakes internationally
>can be either an excellent multitasker, or woefully lazy
>sometimes forgets to delete things unless you remind her to do that, unlike her sister, terraform pone
>more stable if her home is a virtualenv, with all the pet snakes and toolkits in the same place
>she hopes that one day you'll give her an infrastructure standardized enough so that she'll trot around lots of servers and dutifully write "changed: 0, ok: 1337"

Current plans:

>Shut down my Windows 10 computer and install the latest updates (yes this is a problem because I have annoying OCD)
>Backup the data I still have on my new Windows 11 PC so I can wipe it clean
>Install the latest version of Linux Mint on that system
>Do some configuration or stuff, I dunno
>Install Tor and Monero and the P2P mining software
>Mine some Monero to buy a KYC-free eSIM with
>Register some for-funsies accounts with it that aren't tied to my real identity
>Buy an RX 9060 XT 16GB and install it in the system
>Install some more advanced software to gen sloppa with than what I can find in online generators
>Maybe start working on some place to share pony sloppa with each other that doesn't have shit moderation

Last point might not come to pass unless my health improves significantly.

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>>43005885
Guy knows about the rugpull. We all know vmware/broadcom flipped a 180 with bitnami, but after he kept complaining and had meetings with our manager, I've had to make legacy microk8s clusters with all the usual bitnami charts adjusted to use a bitnamilegacy repository.
I am really just venting, sorry, but I spent good time setting up k3s with Traefik sorted and all the usual tools deployed outside helm charts, even wrote a manager to handle an etcd deployment properly, and then he bitches that he has to change his helm charts to use httproute instead of ingress, and the services don't have -bitnami appended anymore. Fucking dipshit then has the gall to keep asking me for help when ingress keeps shitting itself. I still have no fucking clue how ingress accepts connections from outside the cluster, when there is no loadbalancer service, like the likes of traefik has running.

Anyway, rage aside, i am a paradoxical weirdo who loves kubernetes by now, but have zero interest in docker on its own.

>>43005949
I literally didn't understand anything of what you just said. I guess this thread operates on a level beyond my capabilities.

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>>43005960
Sorry! Kubernetes shit is hell of a drug.

>>43006011
Don't apologize, it's my fault for being tech illiterate at least on here.

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>>43005960
Don't worry anon, it's just incoherent rambling that starts making sense only if you're a masochist, work with servers, and want to eventually make your waifu proud in Equestria by showing her your 99.9999999% uptimes, with nines that instinctively are checked by every passerby pony or anon. It can be a lot of work to achieve this, or even just 99%, and I'd say modern software isn't necessarily more reliable than older projects.
If you're a normal ponyfag who likes tech, this thread seems like a good place to lurk and post too.
>>43005949
I'm so sorry. Legacy infrastructure goes very hard, but I'd focus on the pains of sticking with what sounds like plenty of hacks instead of planning a migration. Been there for 3 years. Sure, it works now, but it will be increasingly annoying to maintain, or you'll get some CVE to frantically patch out from those abandoned images. Putting this in writing can help cover your ass later.
>even wrote a manager to handle an etcd deployment properly
Tell me more, do you run separate nodes for etcd and separate for k8s control plane?
>and then he bitches that he has to change his helm charts to use httproute instead of ingress
That's fair and I'd bitch too, majority of 3rd party charts I use still create Ingress resources only. I'm considering Traefik partially because it implements both Gateway API and the older Ingress API, so I'll be able to soften the shock for myself and my team. Check the docs how to enable both APIs, it also has some CRD based config source but you won't need that.
>and the services don't have -bitnami appended anymore
kek, that's a bit silly. Does this mean he needs to rewrite some configuration, or what's the precise pain point here?
>I still have no fucking clue how ingress accepts connections from outside the cluster, when there is no loadbalancer service, like the likes of traefik has running.
I'd bet on nodePort or hostNetwork enabled on ingress(-nginx, right?) controller pods, or manual iptables mess to port forward to pod IP.
Is the other guy higher in seniority than (You)?
>zero interest in docker on its own.
I'd encourage you to get some experience with it. Starting from higher levels of abstraction hides from you what problems you would encounter without the abstraction, and knowing those helps understand why some decisions were made while developing the abstraction.
>>43005937
Have fun, anon.
Windows 10 no longer gets security updates unless you pay or massgravel the ESU.
Usual concerns about hosting user generated (manually created or AI-generated) content apply.

>>43006039
>Windows 10 no longer gets security updates unless you pay or massgravel the ESU.
Yeah I'm using the ESU hack. I actually had switched over to Linux before (Ubuntu) years ago but started using W10 again just as a "quick" install but this install has persisted for almost 5 years now. Needed certain applications you can only get on Windows back then but now I'm just going to either use Wine or a VM (for stuff I don't use much, such as Acrobat, probably the latter).

Also learned recently that Mint has dropped support for ZFS with their current release which is somewhat annoying because I wanted to try that, but at least now I won't be using it and suddenly get caught during the update with a deprecated software package. I guess I'll just try it out on another machine that's going to serve for dedicated backups.

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>>43006039
>do you run separate nodes for etcd and separate for k8s control plane?
In k3s itself, I just have 4 control plane + etcd master nodes, I haven't bothered to separate them, and 2 worker nodes.

The microservices my colleague has made relies on etcd for our own stuff. The bitnami and etcd's own charts and manifests didn't handle scaling automatically, so you had to edit the cmd args in the stateful set to make sure the new nodes are recognized with enough luck. Etcd is really tedious and seems to shit itself more often than not when you try to scale it up and down. Easy example being when scalling down hard, then the existing nodes starts screaming hard enough you can't etcdctl in to delete the removed members.
I made an operator/manager thing that just kinda handles all that, respecting the statefulset size.

>That's fair and I'd bitch too
He only has two-three very simple deployments. It's not a giant production solution I want to up-end. I could write the new httproutes and get it working, it would take 5-10 minutes and that it, but noooo. The precise pain points was boiled down to that his helm charts had to be adjusted, yet he hasn't even tamed ingress completely to begin with. Anyway. Yeah he does have higher seniority.

I already approve of traefik. We only have 2 or 3 microservices of our own deployed, so by being the kubernetes responsible, the sole DevOps, i more or less made the executive decision to switch to k3s and ditch the outdated ingress system. But we live in a society we work as a team, so it can only get so far.

>I'd bet on nodePort or hostNetwork
No nodeports, just clusterip across the board. I haven't checked the hostNetwork option, that does sound the most likely. The ingress-nginx controllers are on each node with daemonset after all.

What would I get from messing around with docker, that I wouldn't get from jyst launching pods in my cluster?

>>43005949
>Loves kubernetes
>zero interest in docker on its own
Wait until you try podman. It's like docker and kubernetes. Here's the kicker it seems extremely simple but it'll do everything to fuck you in the ass, is barely documented and some features work completely differently based on what version your package manager decided to ship .
It's really great at doing rootless containers, and quadlets are great when systemd doesn't shit itself. It's great, try it t. masochist

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>>43004256
>test it
>no support for clipboard images
how the fuck do people use 4chan with native extension?

pomf.lain.la will be kill

>>43007408
I downloaded podman, just so I can build images. I like the distributed nature of kubernetes, how everything is described in manifests and i don't have to sweat how and where the containers deploy, nor how the networking is handled.
Deploying containers manually and locally on a single machine, just doesn't appeal to me with the overhead and the added complexity in interacting with whatever application deployed.
But I'll completely admit I might just be weird on that front. I might just not have seen the bright idea yet.

>>43007502
Fair, kek.
For me it's the opposite I find it too messy to have to look through manifests. I don't like abstraction, in general, in my workflows. I just tend to completely forget how I set stuff up, kek.
I might give kubernetes a more proper go at some point, though I just don't have a bunch of nodes to manage.
Guess it doesn't help I don't like doing anything that's not onprem either, kek.

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>>43006067
>no ZFS on Mint
motherfucker I was gonna try that too. oh well I know that there are other programs for that that exist and that are supposedly better. but still

>>43007518
I use k9s to get an overview and make small edits to whatever resources, it made working with k8s, dare I say it, a little fun. Then I have my little library of manifest files for different deployments and our confluence wiki where I document every single step of anything I do.
I've only done on-prem as well, k3s, autok3s to deploy and expand clusters. It's heaven compared to canonicals homebrew k8s.

We use ansible too for a lot of things, or abuse ansible, in the case of my coworkers. More raw and shell tasks than any using any real modules.

>>43007538
Pretty sure they only removed the zfs root install option?
Just put your home directory on zfs and you will get 90% of the benefits. System rollbacks are mostly a meme.

I wish for a trixie-fied debian 13 wallpaper.

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>>43008424
fuck take me back

>>43008424
>where the fuck is my browser? i need to make these damn icons even bigger... anyway, its 14 degrees today!
why the fuck are these icons so big kek

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https://www.rapid7.com/blog/post/tr-chrysalis-backdoor-dive-into-lotus-blossoms-toolkit
A rather curious choice of names, wouldn't you say?

>>43007992
There you go Anon:
>>42786511
https://twibooru.org/3592252

I realized that the only reason I moved from Mint to Debian was KDE. Now that I'm back on XFCE, I don't see the point to continue using Debian. A lot of things are missing like Bluetooth manager or MTP, which were shipped by default on Mint XFCE.

>>43009257
>Reinstalled whole OS because wanted to change DE
>About to reinstall again because some programs were not installed by default
I really don't get it. Or the concept of distro hopping in general. The only part of a distro that matters is what packages are available in the official repos and which versions of them. Installing and switching to some other DE is so much simpler than starting from scratch.

>>43009469
For your information Mint lacked newest KDE and it still ships with 5.27 or something in the repo, and officially it's unsupported. Debian has 6.3 with Wayland. I wanted to see what's the fuss about, lasted for 2 months. Decided to install XFCE on the existing install and it worked, but strange things have started happening like icons in tray refusing to show up or my power manager malfunctioning. The system likely still had some KDE leftovers. So I tried clean XFCE install just to see how barebones it is since it lacked utilities. On Mint they're already preinstalled so it's less of a hassle.
I'm not guilty of anything, let me be.

>>43009469
I hopped over to Debian 13 from Popos, popos being horribly outdated, based on ubuntu 22. Also annoyed that gnome lacks a lot of features and settings options, and I can't be arsed with their brewing cosmic rust cocksuckery.

>>43009469
>I really don't get it. Or the concept of distro hopping in general.
Let the kids play before their souls are crushed by the reality of the state of open source. What better way to learn the Linux ecosystem?

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>>43004005
as many cons but on a much smaller scale, most of them are 1 room with around 30 attendees over 1 day with no guests, concerts or charity auction
it's still comfy but really has more the feel of a large meetup than a con

>>43009489
By all means, experiment with distros all you want if you have the time. Maybe it's just my weird way of "research and test in VM first, install second". Of course there are some things (mostly drivers) that cannot be tested in VM.
>strange things have started happening
Ok fair, this does make clean install sound reasonable, though I can't recall if I ever had such issues (I think at some point I jumped from KDE to Cinnamon to awesomeWM on the same install. The thing that made me reinstall in the end was my own fault messing up .Xresources that fucked up DPI settings and somehow couldn't be reverted).

>>43010536
So even their meetups have early fandom sovl

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>>43006190
>I just have 4 control plane + etcd master nodes, I haven't bothered to separate them
3 would provide you the same reliability as 4, since etcd (or rather Raft) leader election blah blah blah.
>relies on etcd for our own stuff
Interesting, I haven't seen a reason to make etcd a hard dependency of anything, except K8s and stuff like db operators with automatic failover, but even then the stuff which needs leader election often reuses K8s for this instead of another etcd/zookeeper/the like.
Sounds like NDA, but otherwise I'd be curious to hear what you're actually running on these.
>his helm charts had to be adjusted, yet he hasn't even tamed ingress completely to begin with. Anyway. Yeah he does have higher seniority.
kek, oh well. Such "politics" at work aren't pleasant to participate in. Hand (hoof?) him a fixed chart with both httproutes and ingresses toggled via values, and if you are indeed "the" devops guy, your concerns should matter too. Sometimes it's just easier to do someone's job for them to unblock yours, rather than having to persuade them first.
>The ingress-nginx controllers are on each node with daemonset after all.
yeah, if that's the case then check if you were also exposing the admission webhook port to the internet while it was vulnerable to https://kubernetes.io/blog/2025/03/24/ingress-nginx-cve-2025-1974/. Fun stuff.
>What would I get from messing around with docker
I'll put this another way, here's what I gained appreciation for when I went Docker -> K8s:
>Service abstraction
haproxy shutting down stops processing new connections but stays running for a while until all are closed or timeout is reached. This meant when I wanted to update haproxy, I'd have some downtime which was annoying enough to remember.
>Probes combined with Services
Sure, Docker has healthchecks too, and haproxy can check that if you don't forget to add it in config, but K8s made this more universal => common.
>Ingress API
It's nice that you can have different actual reverse proxies and they're all configured from the same abstracted resources, although it still sucks I needed a lot of ingress-nginx specific annotations. I wonder if Gateway API will be a less leaky abstraction.
Off top of my head, that's about it. Similarly I wouldn't tell someone interested in homelabbing to immediately start with Debian/Ubuntu + docker compose (although that's arguably my best recommendation for average home server, for now). Live through the pain of apt install everything on one system, then through VMs, then LXCs, then Docker, then K8s. At each point you can see the tradeoffs you make to get some advantages, and that makes you less likely to default to K8s when nginx on VPS could be just fine.
>>43007408
Hi anon. Here's a complimentary hug from a butterhorse.

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>>43007477
I saw anons in /fast/ claim they've saved the pony from there. That's reassuring.
>>43007502
>I like the distributed nature of $software
I don't mean to be condescending, but at some point you won't. It's incredible learning about new failure modes you didn't even think of before, when considering adding an inherently unreliable network to a computer system. Sometimes the tradeoffs are worth it, sometimes not really.
This made me reevaluate my pursuit of HA services on my home servers. I don't need zero downtime switchover for my Postgres, I eventually realized all I want is to quickly stop it, sync ZFS dataset to other server, and start the db there instead. I don't need cloudnative-pg (looks cool tho) and hope distributed consensus never fucks up and decides new writes should go to a replica that's way behind. Or that the primary needs to be overwritten with contents from a replica, which happened to a friend apparently.
This quote, apparently from Paul Barham, is pretty great:
>You can have a second computer once you’ve shown you know how to use the first one.
It's humbling. I don't want to make a cheap laugh off average SaaS webdevs, as every day I find out I'm more retarded than I thought myself, but let me tell you they don't always realize they're developing distributed systems, when they do. The bets they subconsciously place on network, on system clock, etc. eventually kick (You) in the ass.
And you eventually start fancying boring technology for your infrastructure instead. It's not a bad thing.
>Deploying containers manually and locally on a single machine, just doesn't appeal to me with the overhead and the added complexity in interacting with whatever application deployed.
That's why I suggested you fuck around with Docker first. Feel the pain. Try to orchestrate it semi-manually with e.g. Ansible. Realize that you want to connect those containers across multiple servers. Learn Linux networking well, without eBPF CNIs. You'll appreciate what Kubernetes et al. solves for you, in exchange for being a very complex (and distributed) system underneath.

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>>43007518
If this is just a home or small business scenario, don't push yourself towards K8s. You'll feel at some point that even Podman doesn't cut it, and then it'll make sense to consider the former.
For example, the stuff I listed in previous post is annoying even on a single node. I run 3 nodes at home and 1 at parents house, and I opted for K8s there too, mostly just to unify my stuff. A VPS running reverse proxy is just apt install haproxy, because at this point I don't need more there.
It's all about tradeoffs.
>>43007561
>k9s
Excellent piece of software. Helped me get rid of Lens altogether. gif from previous post was supposed to go with this reply. at least it's not 2k character limit like /g/ has.
>>43007972
qt
>>43006636
>tfw ignored distropone
>>43008424
cute; feels like ricing Windows desktops like this became less popular.
>>43008981
I wonder how many ponyfags are in each tech niche. There's that meme that IT is ran by furfags, but I believe ponies grant one enough autism to work in IT too.
>>43009489
>Mint lacked newest KDE and it still ships with 5.27 or something in the repo, and officially it's unsupported.
Personally I treat Mint as the dedicated distro if you want to use Cinnamon, with everything else better suited by *ubuntu.
>>43009469
>Installing and switching to some other DE is so much simpler than starting from scratch.
I haven't done this in a while, but years ago installing Gnome and KDE could get you a funky-looking UI, thanks to dotfiles from those somehow getting mixed. Like KDE has a distinctly-KDE theme for GTK programs, but Gnome obviously brings its own too.
>distro hopping
Maybe there should be fewer distros. A few opinionated ones for a normal person (sharing a common base, like *ubuntus), a few with novel approaches (e.g. NixOS/Guix for their packaging), and some one DIY meta-distribution like Gentoo. Would there be a reason for Arch to exist in such timeline? Wouldn't a Gentoo with precompiled binary repos be good enough?
>>43009934
cute susepone
I've tried to like her but never found a reason to keep her on my puters
>>43010826
percussive maintenance pone