>>129222178
you couldn’t use a relevant image? anime sucks and so do you

>>129222208
your mother wouldn't be able to use a relevant image if she was posting a thread with a picture of herself on /s/

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>>129222250
picrel it's him after your post
absolutely
b o d i e d

why do lolipedo freaks always hijack general threads

dogshit thread ruined by anime pedophile + immediately opening with weird antagonism towards the ppl in this general

kill yourself pedophile

>>129222435
me thinks the niggerfaggot doth protest too much

>>129222435
This. Vladimir Putin made this thread. Bake a new one somebody! Slava Ukraeli and We. Can. KYIV!!!!!!!!!!!

>>129222435
The people that say shit like this always turn out to be the actual pedos.
What a fuckin' 'tard.

Dudes, I wanna actually play my music live but don't have the gear lmao, only an acoustic guitar and ideas, Dunno if i could do a laptop as backing instrument but still fuck.

bros why am i such a fat retarded chud

>>129223224
Yeah, a laptop running Live where you trigger clips with a foot controller while playing your acoustic guitar. You got this.

>>129222435
>>129222483
>>129222496
>>129223238
>it’s anime hijacking the board and NOT chuds guys!!!

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>>129222178
>already fucked the OP of the thread by putting anime and not putting the links
I dont have anything against anime but the public is not going to find the thread as easily as with a real /prod/ image. Never be the OP again.

the OP *text* is garbo and he deserves shit for it yeah

i’ll never understand why fags cry about the op image as if anybody who isn’t brain dead isn’t just ctrl+f’ing like actually go fucking touch grass dude jesus christ

>>129222923
no im pretty sure the pedophiles are the ones obsessively watching cartoons of little girls and posting cartoon little girls and thinking of cartoon little girls

>>129223632
because lolipedo should not be normalized and pedophiles should be shunned into their own corner of the internet

https://vocaroo.com/18qInLEw0hTS
i like this one. it didnt take me long to make either. i need to probably add more but just tried to make something with samples only.

>>129223633
You think about little girls a lot, dont you

>>129223754
stop projecting freak

>>129223820
Not him, but he got ya. It's all you bro. Maybe you should go back to Discord.

>>129223632
a lot of people are indeed braindead and seatch threads by the OP image.

>>129223820
I think about hot broads with large breasts and larger rears.

>>129223833
my hobby is not cartoon little girls, thats OP. U can make that connection. i believe in u

>>129223650
write a breakdown section or something too. something that releases the tension

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>>129205382
>>129205494
thanks for the input. ended up right now ordering a gen 3 2i2 because after looking on the market like you said not much in that price range also im still on win7 and this looked like one of the ones that is guaranteed to still work with it.

>>129224369
>still on win7
Absolutely based.

>>129222435
it's just a wholesome anime girl, you're projecting your own pedophilic tendency onto OP. it's a you problem lilbro. kill yourself.

previous
>>129166870

https://www.simulanalog.org/clip.pdf
highly intredasting i am reading this

Why didn't anyone tell me the Seqtrack got a ballin' update?

Ableton Push 2 or Maschine mk3?

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https://vocaroo.com/19zvfgM0whS0
remixed this song i made a while back, it’s been in the back of my mind for the better part of two weeks or something

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https://vocaroo.com/11jB1bgxkjcF
finished
happy with it
>>129226625
cool

>>129226977
if you listen to drums and bass without the synths, do you really envision this track with those synths on it????
like listen to what the bass and drums is putting into the vibe of the track, and you paired them with those synths?

>>129226990
woops i realized i rendered the wrong percussions
should be better now
https://vocaroo.com/1dds5WBmwkZa

https://voca.ro/1dJU6jvrh66l

>>129224276
Yeah I'm trying to work out something for the middle section so I can bring the energy down before going up again. Thanks for the opinion anon

Needing the most expensive version to be able to use Max4Live is pretty evil.

Heavy case of GAS mixed with decision paralysis is pretty frustrating.

>>129222923
https://archive.md/U23XK
they had to freeze this one because the case numbers were getting out of hand kek

https://vocaroo.com/157nNj7Kr80Y
i made this today in about an hour and a half. i think it kinda sounds like coil. doesnt really go anywhere but this is the first time in a while i played every part

>>129226625
nice who made the original?

>>129227045
i like this one too

>>129227081
not really my thing

>>129228216
>not really my thing
Thank you for letting us all know.

>>129226977
>>129227045
tyvm, liked yours too
very atmospheric, heavy drums
>>129228216
i made the original, it’s a re-mix and not a remix sorry for being unspecific
think with different drums/bass it could slap

>>129228235
I listened to a track so I felt i should give my opinion.

>>129228306
Oh okay either way still good

>>129228354
Not every worthless opinion needs to be posted online.

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>>129228406
that is just an worthless opinion

mpc vs octatrack vs ableton push

>have a logo
>have a producer name
how do i get my first track on say spotify?

>>129228679
pay a distributor to put it on spotify for you.

>>129222178
I got benkem rotz huffing toilet gas in the portapotty. Free buzz though.

>>129228698
like distrokid?

>>129223346
Stick a MIDI pickup on it and use an inbox to a DI box (if there is an extra good ground in the deal that is), run two cables or use a pickup that blends. Then laptop to a good reference line amp then a speaker.

>>129228729
yeah but they're shit from what ive heard. honestly theres no point in trying to get a spotify or apple music page up. put your songs on youtube, soundcloud, bandcamp or [untitled] .

>>129228761
yeah i'm reading about them and it seems amuse might be better
>yt sc bc
i gueeeeeess
im not after the money or fame honestly, just want to put songs out there for friends, spotify is what most people use

>>129228812
youtube was around before spotify

>>129228839
most people listen to spotify on their phones
nobody really listens to music on yt at least not over here

>>129228812
Dude I have to figure out what's in my head too. I geared up to make songs for my commercials (social posts really) and now it's kind of like I have too much to just do that I'm obligated to it lol.

>>129228843
okay but you just said you want people to listen to your song. the easiest and fastest way to do that is uploading it to youtube and sharing a link with people.

>>129228852
i feel you
i have so many project but recently come to the conclusion if i don't do it soon, i'll never
full knowing my first 100+ songs are gonna be dogshit with 5 plays
>>129228865
i could maybe combine that?

>>129228891
I so randomly played and never paid a bit of attention to do anything. Now that I am to some degree it's building but that's good. I'm used to old shit so the new tech is SO handy.
As a hint, when I went to college, we cut tape with a razor.

>>129228891
you need to figure out if you want to put out music or see streaming numbers go up. if you have a project that's done and you're proud of it then you should already have uploaded it somewhere for people to hear. if you are going to be discouraged by the fact nobody is listening to your songs i would not continue with it as a hobby. you create music because it brings you joy. there are literally millions of talented people who will never make a dime off their music because the market is flooded but they still make music every day because it makes them happy. those are the most successful musicians

>>129228932
Personally, I sold off a ton of old gear because I don't play live anymore and likely back is too bad to consider it. So I reinvested in other things and one was a nice direct to DAW/FX/Input chain. Then a 6/12 string for the versatility.
So I'm as ready as anything and I'm not short on the ability to write, I'm just now setting up track notes to DO it.

>draft of a new song
https://vocaroo.com/1agDyclaxzk6

very quick take, delivery a little low-energy because housemates in the next room, BUT - I slapped together this acoustic thing after I had the chorus rolling around in my head for a while, and the weird little 5+9/8 bridge kinda tumbled out of me.

is it worth finishing/refining?

>>129229054
Only if you go 2,000% David Bowie

>>129228932
ok but are they most scuccessful entrepreneurs

>>129229079
What makes you say Bowie?
Dramatic Story Ballad Bowie or Detached Sprechgesang Bowie?

>>129229170
>Sprechgesang
Ziggy Stardust, but in East Germany. Add deep synth house/industrial touches.

>>129228932
>discouraged by the fact
nah
im fine with that
i'll never make it to the top 100 that's not what i'm aiming for

>>129229190
I mean… I make folk music so that’d be a little incongruous on a record.

Do Bowie at his folkest ballad mood yelling at S&M leather and gay dramatic Bowie.

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https://vocaroo.com/15wKcbDtPLJk
>synths

guys, what are your thoughts on dawless for demo-making and coming up with ideas? I love how versatile and capable DAWs are but they tend to disrupt my flow when trying to write stuff. I'm thinking about getting a drums machine + sampler; and only using the DAW for polishing my turds.

>>129229333
I was thinking of doing the exact same thing.
For me, it's potentially getting a Seqtrak to act as a sketch pad that I could use anywhere: in bed, on my couch... just comfy jamming and recording without the glow and distractions of my computer screen.

>>129229333
Samplers are cool. I have a 404, I rarely use it but im not willing to get rid of it. Very useful and versatile.

>>129229350
>>129229664
was thinking about something like a Digitak 2, I play guitar and seems like a fun tool to lay down some backing tracks to play along. I'm just not sure how I'd go about recording it, I want to keep it simple.

>>129229702
Does the digitak not have a recording feature? If I plug my bass or piano into my 404 I can hit record and it'll record whatever sound comes into the sampler

>>129229838
hmm I think it has a 66s (mono)/33s(stereo) sample in-device recording limit (or 400mb if loaded from a computer)

>>129229867
You should be fine then. The 404 acts as an interface via usb c so im guessing the digitak probably does the same. Should be easy to get whatever you record on it into the daw

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https://vocaroo.com/16LcO6Ns44pq

I'm looking at DAWs, I'm interested in making pop/pop-rock. I'd like to upload my guitar playing but also use samples & effects, what DAW should I start with? I'm not opposed to use a couple of them either.

>>129230936
Any will do. I've personally tried Logic, Cubase and Reaper, all of them are great (my favorite being Cubase).

>>129230994
Are any better than others for different stuff? Also does learning one make learning another easier?

>>129231057
I'm not a pro, but you can expect more or less the same functionality, the difference is where stuff is located and how many click something requires. Don't thing too much about it, think of it in tasks (e.g. "how to program a drum pattern", "how to record bass") and watch yt videos about how to do those on the DAW of your interest

>>129222435
>sees cute girl
>immediately thinks of pedophilia
Weirdo

>>129230936
I chose FL for a similar reason (want to record guitar, but also learn synths and "electronic" music) and I'm happy with it. Some people say certain DAWs have workflows that are more suited to certain genres, but most, if not all of them, can do it all. I love FLs piano roll for when I want to do midi, and I've made a template that makes recording guitar parts quick and easy (literally 2 clicks needed when I load it up to start recording ideas). I tried Ableton as my very first DAW and didn't like it cause I found it too unintuitive and ugly, but now that I understand DAWs, I think it does some things a little better (not enough for me to switch, though).

>>129228216
https://vocaroo.com/104c45rMpckd
made another song. i think im starting to slowly get better. not too sure if these chords actually fit in a scale together i just thought they sounded cool.

>>129229295
very fun. i could dance to this

>>129230836
very good i like this a lot

Dunno if anyone cares about this or remembers at all but in a few months I will be reviving an old /prod/-oriented site I made years ago (filtered.fm) in a much, much, much better form, with hundreds of new features and capabilities.

>>129231124
you are retarded if you think lolicons aren't pedophiles

>>129231630
IMO the chords (the chords themselves and how they're played and how they sound) are the only actually good part of all of this, in fact

>>129231793
thanks ill give it another try

>>129231124
What cute girl? The cartoon? Get out of here

>>129231871
a cartoon that depicts what?

>>129231884
a child

>>129231782
i am an og so i remember... i remember....
goated site. shame it never took off.

>new features
care to tease us a bit?

Any thoughts on this?
It's trance for /dmp/
https://voca.ro/1d2ClZJWUnHe

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BASED CUTE AND FUNNY THREAD

UOOOOOHHHHH

GO BACK TOURISTS.

NOT YOUR WEBSITE.

>>129231790
See >>129227756

>>129232119
cool anecdotes!

This does not change the fact that your entire hobby revolves watching cartoon little girls, thinking about cartoon little girls, discussing cartoon little girls, saving images of cartoon little girls, and posting cartoon little girls.

That is not my hobby!

That is YOUR hobby, pedofreak.

why do you guys respond to people who are literally paid to shit up the website and make you mad lol

>>129232163
Why aren’t they banned

>>129232195
Hiro probably gets paid not to or otherwise has an interest in not banning (political or monetary or both).
Either way you're only hurting yourself by dRiVinG eNgAgeMenT when feeding the trolls

>>129228839
Test

>>129232163
Sorry, bro. I'm just afraid that newcomers will see his posts and think that is the culture here. I'll ignore his last one and try to ignore future posts as well.

>>129231793
https://vocaroo.com/173tApUUR2Gs
i made a few changes. i dont know if this is much better but i think it kinda sounds cool

>>129232195
4chink operates via engagement just like any other social media shithole

>want to make some new shit
>also want to listen to some new shit
theres just never enough time for anything anymore got damn dude

>anti-australia protests going on near me
>constant helicopters over head making it impossible to mix my track down
I need to move to the middle of nowhere

>>129233459
unfortunately real. i only listen to music an hour a day on productive days and i have rules for it.
active WIP times mean i can listen to anything (1-2 new (to me) releases a week preferable (if i can tell it’s not for me after a couple songs i insta-drop though. never suffer)).
no actives mean i have to listen to something for the purpose of getting references though.
yes i have autism. when i wasn’t making music consistently i flew down /moo/ charts and shit all the time though listening to 1 or 3 new albums a day i miss that shit man damn

>>129233513
also real. that shit pissed me off so bad today.
headphones with good isolation but trying to keep non-tinnitus inducing levels… ugh… i hate not living alone

>>129233513
you did make something out of those helicopter sounds right

I'm tired of my ancient focusrite sapphire 16 being firewyre and having to use a pcie slot on just a firewire card. I'm also tired of protools. I'm looking into getting a motu m4 and reaper. Would these be good for just acoustic guitar + vocals

/prod/ related
>>129235405

>>129233329
It's a cool start, but it's just a loop repeated for nearly 2 mins. Try to expand on it and take it somewhere.

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https://vocaroo.com/1kMJI5F5X93a
wait until i figure out maximus

i like this track i made, not sure what to do with it further (besides obviously mixing/EQ but fuck that). give input

https://vocaroo.com/1cbAqd7eIuID
mellow synthpop

>>129237493
>https://vocaroo.com/1kMJI5F5X93a
early 90s are so back, i like it

>>129233329
>https://vocaroo.com/173tApUUR2Gs
cool, creepy video game OST vibes

>>129234629
bro just get a new one shit is like 100 buckaroo's wtf

>>129237909
>https://vocaroo.com/1cbAqd7eIuID
you need to tighten that melody and dial it in properly, cause as is, it sounds like the kind of experimental meandering you might do when trying to figure out an actual melody.

>>129238045
mm i like the melody, it gives me melancholy and that was the intention. was thinking more input to continue the track instead of just repeating the intro at the end. the part of the melody i would change would probably be the second part of the chorus where it goes up a minor third

Picked up an MPC One for shits and giggles, was able to get it cheap because the front headphone jack is broken, I'll resolder that at some point.

>>129230836
https://vocaroo.com/18wuldAWwddT
does this have potential to be decent if i clean up the mix, lyrics etc? I'm not not really feeling it desu

>>129231630
>very good i like this a lot
thanks btw

https://vocaroo.com/1dXZBJzENdTW
im really happy with this. im starting to understand how to use theory more often over samples.

>>129241203
i just realized i never added a bass to this song

>>129241230
heh, just -pitch it down and lowpass it and then you have your bass x)

https://vocaroo.com/147DCHHsM5SU
Not really sure what i did here. i think it sounds cool though


>>129241584
kek ill give that a try

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Are you in a band?
I'm in a Christian band.
Yeah, they know that I don't share that particular believe, but we're having fun.

>>129237909
>https://vocaroo.com/1cbAqd7eIuID
>>129238045
>you need to tighten that melody and dial it in properly, cause as is, it sounds like the kind of experimental meandering you might do when trying to figure out an actual melody.

To add to this, once I started the song, it seemed like there were like five different things trying to grab my attention.
But, now, that I actually also read >>129238068
There indeed seems to be very little to no progression as is.
Now, one thing you can do is think about a song that you like, which has the kind of build up etc that you would like, then get inspired by it.

>>129241203
>>129241230
It's pretty sweet.
Note: Fuck the rules, if you prefer it without a bass, so be it.
Still, doesn't hurt to try.
On the side: Much room for improvement in the production. Not that it's bad, but, you know, could have more punch, and so on.

>>129242075
i was in a christian duo for a day and we wrote two songs and he spent the entire time shit talking gang of four and harassing my friend about being an atheist (which i was as well but he didn't care for some reason).
great bassist. weird as fuck guy. idk why people kept quitting my bands when i was so talented. i think they were intimidated honestly.
or maybe because i'm a control freak but only concerning music idk

>>129233513
think despite the war like scenes around me, ive improved the mix on this
struggling with that final section a lot. thinking i might scrap it, and bring back the first drop with some new sounds instead

https://voca.ro/1m8m2cIQDE6J

https://voca.ro/1ekOrUKE2jQF
any feedback on this?

>put off using vital for a long time
>see a preset i like enough to install it
>neat ui
This shit is cool

guys i think i just wrote my breakthrough edm hit

How has no one trained small models that generate one shot drum sounds yet? It can't be that hard. Fuck it, I might try it out next month.

>>129242858
haven’t we had that for like 3 years atp? lol

>>129242075
>it seemed like there were like five different things trying to grab my attention.
good

>There indeed seems to be very little to no progression as is.
? homie have u listened the track, it goes from chromatic steps around Cm to solidly landing in Cm, that's the progression

maybe i'll just let add a bit to let it go round the intro again nicer, i'm not gonna make a dramatic shift

>>129243010
>? homie have u listened the track, it goes from chromatic steps around Cm to solidly landing in Cm, that's the progression
Sorry, I was a bit distracted, I'll give it another listen when that will not be an issue.

>>129243010
>that's the progression
r u being deadass like that's so obviously not what he or anybody means when they say that lol

>>129243042
i spend too much time doctoring those fucking chords man, even if they aren't even that out there

>>129243064
im sorry my autism does not allow any other interpretation

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https://vocaroo.com/1eLg3sZVvIYI

Back with more dumbass rap because I enjoy being a moron on the internet

>>129242422
Pretty fun idm trance track

Has anyone ever used the clip to zero method for mixing?

>>129243765
ya

https://voca.ro/1fkJvIw9hh5j

can you guys give me some feedback on this. im new to music production and playing instruments. i used fl studio to record my playing. would like some tips and tricks on how to become more professional.

>>129243790
The original series looks pretty long. Is it as simple as
>clip individual stuff
>group those stuff
>then clip those groups

Or am I missing something important or any special nuances ?

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>>129242422
Sounds like something I'd hear in some early PS2 action game. I like it.
>>129243839
Needs better mixing. I can only hear the bass in my left ear. Drums sound like they don't belong. Good for a first attempt, don't give up sir.

>>129243848
i didn’t actually watch it because i was already implementing basically the same concept before “ctz” became an established thing, so i don’t know what she says specifically i only skimmed the text thing to get to the few technical bits and some clarification on what she was talking about (e.g you should reach for a limiter for sustained sounds or anything with “delicate” high end rather than clipping usually).

the “nuance” you should walk away with is really more in observing how things stack once you start trying mix with this concept in mind.
i.e once you’re looking at how loud certain sounds sum together you’ll think more critically about what sounds *need* to be played and what you can cut away, what actually needs to be smashed and what can remain dynamic, what sounds should actually be processed together and not, and so on.

i think people generally misunderstand it to be a paint by numbers thing and don’t really “get” the whole point of it beyond “max loud xD” honestly.

… oh but yeah that’s pretty much it

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Aw crap, it's not even that easy to lose a post that's not yet sent, but here I am, I did it!
So, short version:
>>129243010
Yeah, I just expected another kind of progression, so that really just went over my head.
May I ask, who, and why perhaps, are you making it for?

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If I sound like a dick, I honestly don't mean it that way.
I do like to try to motivate sometimes though...
So, lets go!
>>129243576
>https://vocaroo.com/1eLg3sZVvIYI
Haha, it's fun, has potential.
Just don't start taking it serious, that would ruin it I think.
>>129242422
>https://voca.ro/1ekOrUKE2jQF
I like it, Very playful with the effects, synths and samples.
That's some work, and it seems to pay off! Nice. Now, more!

>>129242141
>idk why people kept quitting my bands when i was so talented. i think they were intimidated honestly.
>or maybe because i'm a control freak but only concerning music idk
Oh boy, do I have a pic for you! See >>129244945
>>129237493
You probably could, like, build a whole song around that!
"Could" used here, because I sure often tried and failed in similar ventures, haha.
>>129240079
>does this have potential to be decent if i clean up the mix, lyrics etc? I'm not not really feeling it desu
NTA Not my genre, but it seems nice enough to deserve some more work.
>>129243839
My first impression, everything but the bass is dead center right now, the bass, itself, well...
You can start fixing that, EQ some perhaps, some effects, use that space. Not bad otherwise.

(the system deemed my post spam, so I had to split it in two posts)

https://voca.ro/1bGr9GmepnHX
Posted this track in the last thread, tried to make it more melodic and change up the rhythm a bit but i think i fucked the rhythm up. Not my genre and i think i am overthinking this track. Worth sticking to this track and making something of it?

>>129242422
Very crisp, nice
>>129242173
I really like the first drums

can someone please tell me what they think of the mix on this. thank u :)

https://voca.ro/1g5JxHCqTv4V

If only I didn't suck at guitar
https://voca.ro/1k1hEuk8vnOa

https://vocaroo.com/172O4DfhUfKe

https://vocaroo.com/1lf2Og2iL9HT

https://vocaroo.com/1ajkASIQJOkU apologies for double posting i just wanted to turn up the vocals, the compression artifacts on the male vocals also suck but i feel like its also kinda charming

https://vocaroo.com/19NlNoXSmbqE

>>129245650
this is cool
clipping on purpose?

>>129245881

thank u bro, i automated the bass mixer knob to peak so it would emulate a kick kinda. sounds good on headphones but pretty eh on monitors desu.

>>129245881
and yea it is clipping on purpose. i have a version with no clipping but it sounded booring

>>129245445
OWIE why the kick so loud? Pretty nice otherwise

>>129245595
This is nice, whats that pad sound?

>>129245982
>>129245989
the reason i asked in that specific wording was because i had assumed it was for artistic effect
the sound reminds me of this yaego track, though this yaego track is much more upbeat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfTMLsBEe0Q

cool track you got going though - keep working on it :)

>>129246004
haha my bad im mixing with these bullshit ass shure headphone. thank u for the feedback and the compliment

its antarctica from massive 15.5- :) thank u

>>129246040
ahh gotcha and thank u bro. Yaego is awesome his tracks are crazy

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>>129245532
I like it. I feel you could do a better rhythm tone than that but I have always hated metal tone so wtf do I know.

https://voca.ro/1dUYGj19PgTK
>Indie rock
I made this for someone else to sing but haven't gotten around to it. This is still an earnest attempt from me though. Any advice/criticism is welcome.

>>129243839
You don't sound like an amateur.
I think there's way too much going on with the drums.
I like it a lot though. Very catchy.

>>129246410
sounds alot like queen of the stone ages little sister when the cowbell comes in :3
make the cowebell more like in that track i dont know why it sounds so good in there

>>129242743
ok guys I've finally worked up the courage to post my big EDM dancefloor smasher:

https://vocaroo.com/14VQowZnYCZp

i've been dancing in my room to it and i asked my mom what she thinks and she said "it's really good".

what do you guys think? so excited to hear.

>>129246594
Raping a black to this song

>>129246652
releasing the epstein files to that song

>>129246662
>>129246652
>>129246594
>le clown music is peak humour xd

yet another reminder that conservatives will always be ass at art and aren’t funny

>>129244995
I think it’s great, I really dig the vocal samples and overall atmosphere. Reminds me of Andy Stott.
I’d work on the drums more, they are pretty muffled and lack energy. You have a lot of low end, it would be nice to contrast it with some clicky percussion or more sharp snare sound. You don’t have to fill up the higher part of the spectrum and turn it into a dance track, but some groovy elements, soaked in reverb, fading in and out, could make this way more interesting (to me at least).

thanks for the feedback! I’m >>129242422

>>129245445
like the other anon said, kick waaaay too loud and distorted. Also, the kick and bass are very wide, which is weird, feels like there’s a void in the center. I’m not sure what you were going for, but there’s a good reason we usually keep it mono and centered. The rest is perfect, lovely synths, it’ll be a sweet track if you fix the low end.

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>>129246858
https://www.youtubemultiplier.com/69770217dbe53-party-rockers-in-the-house-tonight-every-body-just.php

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>>129246594
failed on all levels. it's not funny enough, it's not catchy enough, it's neither well made enough or poorly made enough, the flavour text is boring and gives it all away before even clicking the link. make some fucking effort, at least.

>>129246594
this shit (ts) is really good
reminds me of martin garrik

>>129246546
Good idea. Thanks man. Didn't make that connection but yeah that song rules.

>>129246912
you are now going to pen a superior version of his post
if you do not post it within 30 minutes, you have conceded
good luck

>>129246864
https://vocaroo.com/1msWd1gjBPe2 hows this. the low end was already mono but i EQed the best i could to make it fill up the space. lmk what u think

>>129246912
>>129246974
over 30 minutes has elapsed
concession accepted
anon is an unfunny uncreative jerk

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https://vocaroo.com/1eav9lIZzdUN
trying to make 6trance

>>129244644
>May I ask, who, and why perhaps, are you making it for?
myself, no particular reason, my dad died recently and this has been my vibe i guess

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>>129247545
i fucked up the ending isnt there and the picture has a gay name trance uma thurman looks at me in a combination of disgust and interest.

>>129244644
https://vocaroo.com/15Ot8BGI1L85
i made this too recently, i like it but it's a dumb and simple progression. want to add melody but i kind of like it more just as a groove, more synthpoppy stuff

>>129247545
>https://vocaroo.com/1eav9lIZzdUN
that bassy synth is intense brother, i'd tweak it but i'm a mellow guy myself. i like the second half, indietronica vibes

>>129247092
different anon, didnt listen previous version, but this is nice. how'd you get the big ambient-y sounds at like 0.50ish?

>>129247594
Im not sure what ur talking about but those hi freq chirps are just init serum square waveforms pitched up super high with luxeverb, flanger, delay, and a phaser with everything but the transients cut out on the equalizer. The lower pitch one is the same FX stack just pitched down and the EQ just has a 20hz+18hz cut on it instead of isolating the high band.

>>129247594
The melody and chords are there, u just need to add FX +EQ and flesh out the drums

https://vocaroo.com/1nqGgQb5xEB7

Is my nightcore remix going to get millions of views on youtube?

https://vocaroo.com/1oQeTwpesOTL

i make drum under three basses

>>129247735
yeah the low pitch one is what i meant, cool, i'm gonna try that too

>>129247774
man i hate doing actual production, i just wanna make compositions i guess. you're right though

>>129247125
>>129246880
>>129246921
>>129246974
yawn
ywnbaam

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>>129248651
boring, unfunny, schizophrenic
like all city-dwelling liberals

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https://vocaroo.com/1d3e4dDOdA1f
im adding solfeggio frequencies next. you all need healing.
a combfilter in solfeggio tones has to comb it out. thats it. thanks /prod/ you always inspire me

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Oh, btw, this was all me:
>>129244971
>>129244945
>>129244644
>>129242075
Just so you know, new here.
Also, I got nothing to sell.
Actually, pirate Hybrid 3, don't buy.
I have a fucking license, but it wont let me activate. Glorious iLok and some other major annoyance in software form won't let me.

>>129247548
>myself, no particular reason, my dad died recently and this has been my vibe i guess
Ah, my condolences. That can be brutal.
Music may help indeed.
...I have to split this in two again.
Computer says it's spam.
Again...

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>>129247594
>https://vocaroo.com/15Ot8BGI1L85
>i made this too recently, i like it but it's a dumb and simple progression. want to add melody but i kind of like it more just as a groove, more synthpoppy stuff
Neat. To me, works a bit better together than https://vocaroo.com/1cbAqd7eIuID , but, it's your song, for you. Only thing that really matters.
You wanted to add melody as in another voice/synth, or add/extend more to the existing parts? To me, again, it seems to work pretty well.
Well, I like it. I'm used to totally different stuff, not that it matters, but for reference, it usually goes something like this:
https://voca.ro/18QWN9CJKCgd
Yes, dear reader, you may rate.
Actually, rate!
I could use some re-affirmation.
Or constructive criticism, we'll even take that.

>>129248985
>https://voca.ro/18QWN9CJKCgd
4/10 for effort. The mix starts off well and has a good sense of space for the intro, but seems to go flat as it continues. The harsher arp sound that plays over everything is not very nice, especially when it kicks in just after the intro. I would remove that entirely, or choose a different sound - I think it's that the detuning is a bit too much.

How to find peace and settle down in to or at least close to a genre? I feel I wanna do different new stuff all the time

>>129249146
pretty much just self control mate.
pick what you want and minimize your unfocused music making

>>129222178
Thoughts on Omnisphere 3? I like the FX rack external plugin.

>>129249078
Unbiased 3rd spectator. Ur talking big game for a guy who made a song that sounds like a youtube outro.

>>129249078
Thanks. Yeah, the arp won't go anywhere for multiple reasons, but I appreciate the...actually rather constructive input.
One reason perhaps, it helps to imagine being on a bunch of psychedelics, dancing somewhere in the woods.

>>129246864
Thank you very much. I lost identity with this track a bit but now I have some reference, I'll have to check out Stott.
Good idea on the percussion. I have all my current percussion grouped as one right now and I might have compressed it too much and also EQ'd it a bit off. If I may ask do you think the breakdown towards the end could use something still or is it good like it is?

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new bingocards just dropped be ready for sundays bingo.

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y'all even sample

>>129249751
>Unbiased 3rd spectator. Ur talking big game for a guy who made a song that sounds like a youtube outro.
So, you know who that is? By the writing style?
Reminder, my first time here. Just learning.
Note that you don't need to be a 3 stars michelin chef to not like a meal.
>>129250083
Sometimes. It's not entirely unheard of.
And that Tascam thing still has like 9.6 years of warranty.
Ugh.

>>129248985
it is boring :(
kick and snare clash not sure if intended takes away from the danceability. maybe phase issues idk.

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>>129250157
Yeah, it's not mastered or anything, but something I made long ago, 2008 I think, an attempt at making an actual song.
Whatever that may be.
Still, thanks. So much to look out for.

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>>129245873
>hydrochlorid acid
im feeling this one. just too short and needs another section

>>129248985
cool, i like the track. outrun its called i guess? i would maybe make the synths less plucky, but besides that nice

>>129249751
>>129250108
lol i'm catching some strays here i think

>>129249869
quality of /prod/ plummeting.

literally one good voc in the entire thread and trash people posting.

Is there anything even remotely similar to logic pro that is on Android or Windows but touch optimized?

>>129250260
Thanks, I'm also >>129250108
Damn, this anonymous stuff is complicated!
(joke, mostly)
>>129250540
I'll try out Ableton with touch, on Windows, in the near future.
But, not there yet.

Also, a blind guy near me is looking for support with Logic.
I know nothing of Logic, but I assume I could figure out the basics, given decent knowledge in other DAWs?

>>129241203
Listened to the first 40 sec. My review: I like everything except the piano.

>>129250823
thanks anon.

>Native Instruments is in preliminary insolvency proceedings
uh oh...

>>129225302
Thanks for this. Neat.

>>129229333
Just get an MPC and an old workstation keyboard. MPC is so nice and easy and handy to use, laying down tracks, putting things together, editing. I really like the nu-MPC for this even better than classic ones (I also have the 500, 2000, 2000XL).

Workstation keyboard will have all kinds of sounds, you can get all crazy with editing them and whatever or just use presets for noodling. MPC is already your sampler. Old workstation $250 or so.

>>129250905
Imagine all the suckers who spent actual money on VSTs losing access when the license server dies lol.

SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A REAL SYNTHESIZER YOU PIGEONS

>>129251291
I even made a shitty song only using...a shitty synth.
Oh, it's a circle!
But yes, see:
>>129248968
>Actually, pirate Hybrid 3, don't buy.
Fucking bullshit.
Exactly why Steam is successful too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVQIlMM1s30

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Didn't mean to interrupt any of you btw.

>>129231782
hi, i remember someone mentioned filtered.fm in /dmp/ when talking about dmpproductions.org. i couldn't find archives/screenshots on the internet so it would be cool to see it.

>>129247948
My high self enjoys this. Going green goblin mode!!!

You guys ever send your tracks out to local DJs?

>>129250466
>literally one good voc in the entire thread
Which one?

Not much going on during american hours it seems.
Have they ever heard of music?
Get it?

>>129251291
>buying synthesizers when free ones exist
oy vey
>losing access when the license server dies
when that happens permanent license keys typically get posted. still using my free photoshop cs2 that way

>>129253328
Hes probably referring to himself because hes a self important faggot

>>129254447
>oy vey
Actually the Jews want you subscribed to rentalware or paying for virtual instruments. The last thing they want you to do is buy one of the huge number of cheap, cool MIDI synths still floating around the used market.

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>>129254701
>MIDI synths

https://vocaroo.com/1liHSQ6ICrHg
i played the bass here on my fender. everything else i played also on my keyboard using vsts. i should really learn how to mix cause i think a lot of the things are too loud. the pad at the end is my favorite part. i thnk the whistle is kinda cool. only thing im not 100% on is the single note thing i did with that ghosty sound

>>129222178
How to use a MIDI keyboard?

>>129254814
DETAILS!?

>>129254814
pres butans

>>129254814
Just hit the keys
If if has velocity sensitivity, try hitting them harder

>>129250225
https://vocaroo.com/1jKgkfocdqox

thanks for the feedback. i made it longer with freddie gibbs, hopefully it kept the same energy

Anons, talk me out of getting a Behringer RX1202FX.
It just seems to be the best bargain when factoring in price per channel.

>>129255964
>having real gear in 2026
*snorts loudly*
plebeian!

I did this in about 2 hours. It was fun to write, fun to play a few times, but practicing music is boring so I just did a few takes and left it at that:

https://voca.ro/1dy4pMpej9re

>>129229054
I appreciate the beautiful fingerstyle, good work on that. Compositionally it's good, the vocal performance is hard to understand but it characterizes a crazed/pained vibe well.

>>129245532
This is fun for a jam session, but for anything else it needs a lot of compositional tightening up. I was sad the intro hook never came back.

>>129246410
This is fine with a few critiques: They keys coming in overtake the mix and take away from the rest of the song. Besides the sound being too resonant, their melody largely noodles and clogs the whole arrangement. The call/response at 1:50 is nice, though. Vocal melody's largely verse-focused, leaving it melodically and rhythmically inconsistent throughout. Work in some hooks or maybe a chorus structure to add some consistency.

>>129254784
What kind of mixing have you done on your bass, if any and how was it recorded? It is completely out of place here. It gets buried by the rest of the instruments and the playing sounds a little sloppy as well.

>>129256277
>practicing music is boring so I just did a few takes and left it at that
Yeah, it shows, sounds like shit with obvious mistakes, discordant chords and the lead mostly just following the backing notes. Really undermines your reddit-spaced feedback about melody and consistency. If you don't take your own music seriously why should anyone take your 'critiques' on theirs seriously?

>>129222178
Working on a video game soundtrack
Here's an ambient to synthwave tune
https://voca.ro/1dtjNhhWr2x9
Here's an ambient tune
https://voca.ro/1cgt8IMFwZiw

I'm having a hard time figuring out what the studio wants exactly: they sent me a bunch of reference tracks (neo-80s synthwave mostly, with big drums and everything), saying that they wanted that but dark (it's a thriller type thing). Then when I sent them that first tune they told me it was too jazzy (?) and it wasn't what they had it mind. So I'm trying again with that second one which is more of a typical soundtrack sound, with more subtle nods to the 80s synth sound. Pray for me

is there a DAW or VST that will let me change temperament

>>129237909
The m4 is $260 and reaper is $60.

>>129222178
am I ever going to be as creative as I was when I was 17 or should I just kms ;_;

>>129256931
Kontakt has custom temperaments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcWtlF2uJSY

>>129256985
You were probably not very good or creative at 17, you just thought you were - just like when you're drunk and performing music and you think you're on fire, but you listen to the recording the next day and it's shit. Music is work, creativity is work. Work on your skills and you will be much more creative than you were

>>129257059
I was genuinely much better at 17 than I am now. I used to get spotlight articles written about me in local publications as a "artist to watch." I hit some kind of wall and everything after age 22 has been absolute shit. even now when I go through my shit I can easily see a sharp decline in quality around that age. idk what happened.

>>129229054
De-ess your vocals

im reading a book about pop hits right now. it is a bit like "the manual" but written by a music professor and deals with the question of what makes a pop hit a pop hit.

for example he was able to predict quite a few winners in the eurovision song contest, mostly on the basis of their chord progressions. (he predicted euphoria would win and Heroes, the songs are quite different, i dont know the other songs but i would never have been able to predict these would win anything)

one of the interesting passages apart from the sheet music in there is that he writes that pop music hits are very stylistic.
it is a bit of a trueism, but when you think about it it isnt.
take someone who produces hits. like anyone who had a hit spree.
all there songs were stylistically "them". lady gaga is lady gaga, bruno mars is bruno mars. timbalands beats were recognizable too.

bruno mars doenst make a song and it is less stylistic and more successfull, he is maxxing out bruno mars. adele always sings like adele.

the difficulty is about being memorable + original and unique + doing the thing that works. i think if one of these factors is missing then it just wont be good.

>>129256931
Omnisphere which answers many questions

>>129257319
Just prioritise the vocal melody line and harmonise with the bass, don't do parallel motion. Basic two voice counterpoint is most pop songs. The exception is novelty songs. Don't sing the bass note.

https://vocaroo.com/1iL9o02iJiSU
tried to make a hiphop beat with a key change lol, i kinda like it but also eh

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>>129257695
>hiphop
not listening

>>129257708
hater, its barely hiphop anyway cuz i suck at making hiphop beats

>>129257740
do you even own instruments?

>>129257745
? i play everything myself lol, haven't touched midi or vst in ages (except for drums)

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https://vocaroo.com/14Y1u0o1j9CH
i think my new name is now dj heartchakra drill instructor.
>6trance attempt cont

>release my 1st song on the streamables
>5 plays
>have to keep paying 30 bucks a year to keep it there
in the eeeeeeend it doesnt even maaaatter

>>129256583
I kinda messed with the EQ a bit on the amp. The playing is definitely sloppy and a bit off beat. I recorded from my amp xlr port into my mixer. I was told to add more mids into my bass. So I'm gonna give it another try today

https://voca.ro/1dyzxZmJo30U

>wip (im on earbuds rn)
>replaced snare 83 times (still dont like it)

i think the 2nd drop needs something more interesting
ill get a better mix done once i get home

>>129258716
music has always been pay to play until you make it. you had to pay for your instruments and spend time on your craft too. all of that is putting you in the red. expect to go further in the red

>>129258716
what else did you expect?

Trying out Serato Sample now, but it's expensive. Anyone got a sampler vst to recommend? The built in sampler in Bitwig is arse, love the DAW otherwise though. I need non-destructive slicing and if possible warping.

sick of the saw wave

>>129260256
>$160 for a virtual sampler
that's fucktarded, you can get an Akai S2000 for $100 more than that and it will kick the balls off the stupid VST

there are infinite free sampler VSTs, too

https://www.izmar.nl/

>>129262332
>”hey you should spend more on something that does less, is a thousand times slower, and only does 16 bit retard!”

why does this general attract so many of these faggots jfc

>>129262360
It's very full featured, the S2000 is based. It has a great sound and you can do some tricky shit with it using MIDI. Probably stuff your VST can't do. Anyway PAYING for some gay VST sampler makes no sense at all. Why would you do such a thing? And I just looked - you can get the S2000 for even less than $200 on eBay. There are quite a few up there.

There is simply no excuse to start paying to make music on your computer when most of the good tools are free. Heck with csound and pd you can basically make any sound you can imagine with a relatively small investment in time to get to know these systems. If you're seriously thinking of dropping nearly $200 on a sampler, there had better be an insanely compelling reason to get the payware one over say, an S2000. What if the license server goes down? It happens all the time. Look at all the great music created with the S2000 from way back, until today. People love it STILL. At $200 or less it's a steal.

People who create music and get on the payware / subscription-ware treadmill will find at some point that all the things they bought won't work on a new OS, the ancient files won't open, a license server goes down, etc. and eventually they are abandoned. Of course this happens with MIDI hardware too but the abandonment doesn't cause your stuff to magically stop working one day.

I would say if you're going for all in the box computer music and you spend more than $100 all told including your DAW, VSTs, and everything else all put together you're doing it wrong. You SHOULD be using all Free software if possible. Software that can not be taken away from you.

>>129260256
get a real sampler hardware is cooler

>>129262541
yes /g/aylord, every pro is wrong and you’re right.
investing in anything that isn’t foss makes you an idiot

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japanese fbi came knocking on my door said "WHERE AR YOU RAISENSCE"
it's over. they got me. dont use cracked plugins kids.

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>>129262792
I just use Surge XT...

https://vocaroo.com/1osNtedQicRQ
Here is a new track from today. Everything besides the acoustic guitar is me. I can kinda feel myself getting the hang of playing over samples. even if it's just singular note stuff now eventually ill be doing chords. I think the bass might be too loud. I didn't use headphones at all while making this


>>129256277
I liked it and i also do the same thing sometimes. It's hard to get a perfect take but if its close enough ill take it

>>129256842
>https://voca.ro/1dtjNhhWr2x9
reminds me of hotline miami

>https://voca.ro/1cgt8IMFwZiw
This one sounds spooky

>>129257695
>https://vocaroo.com/1iL9o02iJiSU
i like it.

>>129258520
>https://vocaroo.com/14Y1u0o1j9CH
this was fun to dance to

>>129262758
>every pro is wrong
Every pro doesn't use VST. In fact I doubt that most do these days. Some do. But many prefer hardware. You're not a pro though, you don't even know what you want out of a sampler or how to work one.

VSTs are a lame investment. You can't rely on them down the road, something important to an ACTUAL pro. Unless they're Free of course. You're that plugin sellin' jeet ain't ya lol? You're in every thread, like it's your job to just hawk VSTs and Ableton in every thread. That's gay.

in the box music making is extremely free until you get to sampled instruments which is ridden with tasters, demos and crippleware on the low end of the cost spectrum
that's the only thing i would spring money on however

>>129263554
You can literally just grab free multisampled instruments of every variety right off archive.org. Professional grade sample packs right from the sampler companies themselves and others. Good enough for all the professionals back in the day to make all the tunes you can imagine.

Load one into VMPC2000XL and boom, you're off to the races. It's a full emulator of the MPC2000XL, which is still good enough for anybody.

my headcannon is that this is chuzo’s new posting identity

>>129263713
>the personality you made up because you're mentally ill is coming back to haunt you
It's simply retarded to buy a software sampler, there's zero need to do it and it's obvious that we have VST sellers and Ableton-pushers in the thread at all times.

It's too late. You don't have to do this any more, everybody's been found out. Nobody every bought your shit anyway.

>>129263662
i already yarr my sample packs off the internet archive but the instruments i was talking about are more elaborate than that
>>129263713
>headcanon

The Ableton-pusher jab is interesting because it made me notice he was shilling for Akai

>ableton-pusher
okay my bad, this is the guy who melts down and crys about “shills” to the point of derailing entire threads with posts attacking random anons lmao.

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>>129263760
>shilling for an ancient used sampler which costs the same as a new VST is "shilling for akai"
I also shilled the MPC2000XL emulator as another option rather than the VST that poor anon was attempting to sell.

Ableton is garbage though, that's true.

>>129263821
Threads are full of shills, yes. I mean actual anons don't post NEW THISORTHAT ON SALE 12% OFF SHOULD I BUY IT HERE'S AN AFFILIATE LINK!

Nobody gives a shit which VST you use, or if you use them at all. it's just retarded to PAY for them.

>>129256170
Computers are gay
>>129246410
Thanks for listening.
>>129256277
>needs a lot of compositional tightening up
My project is actually a cover so I was following the structure of an original. I guess I could have trimmed or rearranged it some since my version is slower

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>>129264219

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>>129256277
Thanks, anon. I really appreciate you taking the time to listen and critique my song. Changing the keys should be easy enough. I will try to implement a chorus/hook to tie it together.

Zensphere desu

https://voca.ro/1cfhi5qVH0NG

I was thinking about a Minifreak, but controlling the VST (or another one) with a midi keyboard seems about just as good. Am I going to get some improved interop if I buy an Arturia keyboard, or is there no difference between a box of knobs and a box of knobs?

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>>129266576
knobs are bad. faders are better.

kinda at a loss how to proceed on this chase & status like dnb project ._.

https://voca.ro/15Q2QPpVShLw

the drop is not even remotely close to what i was going for
how do i make it sound heavy and hard hitting
i also think the drums dynamic is too fast for what i'm going for, i think

>>129266968
Why? Endless encoders seem the most sensible to me.

>>129222208
This. I'm NOT responding to a cartoon picture.

>>129266968
What a god tier instrument
it literally
>Does everything

>>129231057
Reason 13 for inspirationmaxxing

>>129267118
moog stop posting we see through your economic knob tricks but knobs have always sucked compared to faders.

>>129256842
Reworked the first half of the synthwave tune, got rid of the actual synthwave part
https://voca.ro/11DfPi7RMvyB
instructions were to make it more intense than the other ambient tune as the player is nearing a dramatic moment and looking for something
Some heavy lifting done by Damage loops, but I feel like composing fast will be more valued than creating custom hi hats and kicks for this

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Will this be used in Hitler edits on Instagram?
https://voca.ro/1eZQzNUL73ka

>>129267706
kill yourself

>>129266969
>heavy
this probably sounds counter intuitive but i think you need to be way more aggressive with your eq and automating out low/mid content (e.g on the reverbs) so that each hit has a spectral contrast on impact.
i could nit pick on like, your snare selection, but i don’t think that’s the main culprit. its the sound selection/eq and where you place them on this one

>>129268303
thanks anon
i think if i slow down the overall movement, give the drums more impact that might also solve something?
but yeah more eqing is needed and better sounds

>>129268311
i mean that wouldn’t be my first thought personally but maybe that’s worth trying for what you have in mind, yeah

Kinda getting in the groove for Deep House again, wdyt lads

https://voca.ro/1bEBlkpR3v3V

If I made a couple tracks and I think I'm good enough, what do I do next?
After quitting my current job, that is?

i like old space ambient and also tried to make sparse composition you can sing sacred songs on (like Gorecki or something). Like i want opera singer to sing on it, so i want some fragment quiet and sparse but also to have some synth climax at the end. How this can be improved?
https://vocaroo.com/12hh9wPIyp67

>>129268423
Pretty neat track. Vocals remind me of Overdrive by Drizzy, check it out maybe you could get some ideas from it. Mix is nice, i like the pluck melody support also.

>>129267706
Probably not bro. Its not phonk, it sounds more like real music.

>>129266969
I think you should chop vocals, maybe filter them, and turn on the ta-ta-ta-ta synth, maybe even octav higher. Also the vocals take really broad spectrum of EQ, maybe dim them too. Otherwise sounds good.

>>129265804
Really like the guitar sound. Great. Have you released anything?

Not shilling but here is my latest with the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znOxTQk3DY

>>129262332
Used this back in the day. Great stuff.

>>129271174
NO SHILLING IN PROD YOU DUMB RETARD

>>129256277
Shorty

https://voca.ro/1eLWshWwdagp

Going to pick up a cheap midi keyboard so i can make music at work tomorrow

i actually don’t mind people shilling their youtube videos because it reminds me not to take these peoples opinions seriously

>>129272058
This general was unusable for a few years because of fags shilling their youtube constantly.

>>129272089
literally never happened

you should cry about how wrong i am for all of the next thread though, that'll show everybody how right you are.

>>129272234
seethe newfag

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>>129272058
vangelis says any amount of attention is bad for the creative pursuit. if you read above one anon has been damaged by being exposed to attention and losing creativity in exchange.

if you receive attention you want more of it. you will do the same thing again. this can be very bad in art.

>>129272539
this topic actually warrants a serious conversation but i don't people here have the scope or experience here beyond personal experience or "social media bad" to really talk about it

*i personally* think making art (solely) in pursuit of attention is "bad," or at the very least unhealthy, BUT there are several sects of it that are intrinsically tied to things that will inherently draw attention (i.e anything made to provoke or make you question a hot-topic issue that people tend to get emotional about)

MOREOVER: you are failing to communicate as an artist if you don't understand the audience, how you are being perceived, and what barriers there are to having your desired effect, so naturally those are things you must end up thinking about at some point. (to clarify because i already see somebody seething about this, take for example the lowest level: "i want to make something *sad,* does it *seem* [to other people] sad?" and you move up from there).

imo, all vanity aside (this topic usually invites some discussion of motivations and moral up-rightness even though that's a different boring discussion) the real danger in caring about attention is the tendency to craft things that are ephemeral or *extremely* context dependent, to the point where they cannot be appreciated outside of that moment as a work in a (relative) vacuum.

JUSTICE FOR PENISMANK

How do you all save stuff in Ableton?
I don't mean... like.. how does one go about saving.. I mean what's your technique for saving your projects?

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>"keep it simple stupid, keep it simple stupid, keep it..."
>hit record
>overplay
every time