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>>16901742
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997794076570300616

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one ping only please

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https://www.ark-invest.com/articles/valuation-models/ark-expected-value-spacex-2030

Cancel Gateway

you would need a purpose for all this AI computing power though

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>>16901756
Helping humans of course..

>>16901756
full immersion VR gooning

>>16901756
A basic query and response gets a lot better as the number of parallel agents and model size grows, but this also makes the compute and power requirements grow. One of these machines might be good for a relative handful of people, but if you have billions of users making use of the AIs, the amount of inference compute you need soon becomes ludicrous. Microsoft and OpenAI both poisoned the well on the idea of needing that much compute: OpenAI by scaling way faster than demand, and Microsoft trying to shove it down our throats in useless schemas. But that doesn't mean there isn't actual value or utility in AI services. Demand for them is probably going to start growing much faster when they can be paired with robotics and automation services that exist outside of pure software environments. That leap hasn't been made yet, but it will probably show up soon.

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Absolutely over for space endeavors. Not a chance at achieving anything of substance.

>>16901765
We already knew this, we are at the end stage of the empire. Rome is withering and caesar and the patricians care not.

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spehs

>>16901746
>3 trillion $ martian gdp by 2040
Seems a little optimistic to me

>>16901766
Trump is the desperate attempt to salvage the empire

>>16901765
Wait, you mean to tell me that if all 200 nations on Earth use unbacked FIAT fractional reserve paper, and then keep printing more money for the elites, their families, friends and other fellow scheming greedy masonic golem vampires to steal from their own nations coffers, that the system crashes and cannot sustain itself?
But....but I want science and space stuff....
How come the magical paper does not make magic space stuff anymore?
*Pokes money printer with a stick*
Print more paper please....
Oh wait...yeah....

>>16901765
good riddance
they should work in private companies instead of bloating up the bureaucracy

>>16901768
thats enterprise value, not GDP
completely different things

>>16901771
100 years of fiat currency looting the world

>>16901765
Waste of woke shit

a 60 year old PHD government worker's value is.... ?

>>16901771
This post is proof that /sfg/ should never be on the first page.

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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2017028920420552958

SpaceX might make a phone, integrating with xAI for the OS and Starlink D2C

>>16901790
I genuinely do not know what the advantages would be for having local inference on your phone.
Like there is basic-bitch facial recognition but we've had that for over a decade.
Instant local language translation maybe?

>>16901790
What does this even mean

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>>16901802
>>16901808
you replace the OS with an AI OS that generates the Apps you need to use on the fly

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1956583412203958733
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1952821887773663579
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2017028920420552958

>>16901810
Sounds like a bunch of vibe coding gobbeldygook

>>16901812
https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/google-deepmind/project-genie/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxkGdX4WIBE

to get a sense what it could be like
here you have a world model being generated in real time

>can't call the merged company X because it will be confused with the site itself
musk is retarded
I guess X Technologies (XTech) might werk for him.

if the ticker symbol is not SEX I'm not buying

>>16901819
I think that would be illegal.

So Elon is using spacex money to build datacenters because AI doesn't make any money?

>>16901818
or he could call the holding company something entirely different
X harkens back to his payments company from over 20 years

>>16901823
>or he could call the holding company something entirely different
He likes the X shit though

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>>16901822
AI companies do have substantial revenues, its just that the revenue is dwarfed by the capex needs for new datacenter buildouts
so in the short term they need more money than they generate

>>16901790
I'm still waiting for the Tesla electric plane that enron mustard literally promised years ago

>>16901790
They are not making a fucking phone. What is it with muskfucks wanting the muskfuckphone? first Tesla now SpaceX. unserious people

>>16901790
disrupting the phone industry would be so cool, I'd get one of those

>>16901820
land of the free.

>>16901845
OpenAI is already developing some kind of device

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https://www.russianspaceweb.com/olymp.html#2026
>At the end of March 2025, Olymp-1 left its position at 18 degrees West longitude, where it was sitting for around 2.5 years next to the Intelsat-37E communications satellite, and started drifting eastward at a rate of 0.5 degrees per day. By early September 2025, the spacecraft re-adjusted its orbit back to a geostationary altitude, fixing its position over 65.5 degrees East longitude, but its orbital plane naturally tilted to 1.14 degrees from the equatorial plane, indicating that ground control no longer performed necessary adjustments, perhaps due to lack of propellant.
>After around a month at the geostationary altitude in October 2025, Olymp-1 climbed several hundreds kilometers into a seemingly "burial" orbit at the end of its mission. It therefore operated for nearly 11.5 years, or less then a standard 15-year life span of geostationary satellites, which could be explained by extensive maneuvers that resulted in the rates of propellant consumption not typical for the satellites in this class. On Jan. 30, 2026, the Switzerland-based S2a company, specialized in space situational awareness, reported that Olymp had started tumbling in its graveyard orbit and additional objects had been detected in the vicinity of the satellite. The company said that the fragmentation took place at 06:09:03.486 UTC on Jan. 30, 2026.

https://x.com/s2a_systems/status/2017192355279884655
>A short time lapse of the fragmentation event on LUCH (OLYMP) #40258 that took place today, 2026-01-30 from 06:09:03.486 UTC.

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https://x.com/chamath/status/2017266017945497774

>>16901857
grim

>>16901848
It's called vibrating anal beads and they have already existed for years.

>>16901865
how are you going to watch youtube videos with those

>>16901857
Raising capital for what

>>16901870
For the sake of raising capital and investing it further. You have people who want to make money, then there are people who like to make a lot of money, and then you have ascended types who want to literally drive the entire market itself such as elon. For better or for worse

>>16901878
Did Mars ever actually matter to elon

>>16901883
Sincerely yes, I don’t doubt it. I think he is serious about a backup to civilization and the autism of doing some sort of Mars city just as much as he cared about undercutting old legacy launchers with F9 and reusability. But I think his market and business autism reigns supreme over everything else and Starlink success sort of triggered a “okay hmmm Mars is going on the backburner here, there’s an entire market to tap” line of thinking

>>16901883
It was never about merely putting man on Mars, or even a self-sufficient colony, it was always about ensuring humanity could survive even if the worst happened to Earth. "The worst" is not Earth being struck by some destructive cosmic event, but being controlled by people hostile to humanity ever escaping their grasp. He needs to ensure humans in space can not only survive in space without Earth, but survive a fight against Earth.

Humanity was never meant to go further than LEO

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>>16901905
It's necessary

>>16901905
If humanity was meant to do something it was go extinct when it numbered 10k. This is all extra fuck you time against the universe.

>>16901905
Yet we landed on the Moon just fine. And idc the Catholic church already has soft doctrine to send priests and establish new parishes off-world, the vatican already said they’re going to do it when the time comes. It is inevitable.
People used to say man wasn’t made to fly in the air in machines, and that rockets were just a philosophical idea conductive to science fiction stories. Never bet against the indomitable human spirit

>>16901912
Careful now, we could still be absolutely blindsided by a dark planet killer from the black backdrop of space that we don’t even see coming until it smashes into the lithosphere and kills off all human life

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https://x.com/Fraunhofer_FHR/status/2017160931575246886
>Radar image of the Chinese upper stage of the heavy-lift rocket ZhuQue-3 taken by our space observation radar TIRA yesterday at 10:30 a.m. on behalf of the WRLageZ. Today around 10 a.m. last overflight over Germany. Re-entry according to ESA + EU-SST network expected around noon.

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https://x.com/isaraerospace/status/2017161064178127158
>After resolving the pressurization valve issue identified during the first launch attempt, a new launch window for Mission ‘Onward and Upward’ will open no earlier than 19 March from Andoya Space, subject to weather and range availability.

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https://x.com/Astra/status/2017253305186177101
>This week on the test stand: the Astra team continues pushing the run box limits of our Rocket 4.0 first stage engine combustion chamber.

I'm all for a Mars settlement but the probability of a an extinction level event on earth that doesn't affect Mars too is incredilby small.

>>16901870
SpaceX: to build a lot of ships fast, build a lot of AI data center satellites fast (instead of having to wait for starlink to grow and fund it from cashflows)

Tesla: they just increased their capex guidance to 20bil this year, building a lot of different things and this doesn't include plans for a GigaFab for chips/memory/packaging and a separate fab for solar panels, a rapid scaling of robotaxis and related infrastructure is also going to need a lot of capital. Tesla has 44b but that might not be enough for all of the needed plans

xAI: will need massive amounts of capital for compute, they just raised 20bil but the demand for compute is insane

>>16901768
In 2040 $3 trillion will be roughly equal to what Mcmurdo costs

>>16901885
no, this is a way to use all the ships and boosters that are waiting between mars synods
starlink launches are not going to eat up enough of launch capability for amounts of mass he wants to send to mars
AI datacenters will have unending demand for launches however, which means that outside of preparing for mars launch windows, the launch infrastructure and vehicles can be used for something that will simultaneously pay for the mars launches

starlink might justify building starship, but it doesn't have the launch demand to justify building enough launch capability for the 100 megatonnes of mass into orbit that mars is going to need (I don't remember the number he was flinging around, but it has probably increased if he is talking about building 10k ships per year, the last time it was like 1k ships)

>>16901921
its not simply about a complete extinction event, its about events that make civilization on earth stagnate in a way that doesn't allow for space exploration
this encompasses a lot of things that don't necessarily mean total annihilation of all humans

>>16901920
HOW ARE THEY STILL ALIVE

Superbowl + Artemis II

>>16901931
More like Athena (this is a superb owl joke)

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Apparently Blorg will be pausing New Shepard flights for at least two years to focus more on New Glenn and their lunar ambitions.

>>16901939
>pausing
What chances they actually want to cancel the program and it's just a nicer way of going about it?
Seems like a waste of time and money.

>>16901939
Let it die. Suborbital tourism is a joke.

>>16901941
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/2017337452730708291
>What I'm thinking is that the risk per flight is too high, and the consequences of a failure to the rest of the company is too great. Maybe they found a problem with the newly recovered booster and were looking at having to address the problem and build another.

>>16901905
source?

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>>16901933

>>16901950
My ass.

>>16901939
>suborbital tourism is now kill
i know it was shit but this is depressing. between this and spacex giving up on mars, we're definitely regressing.

>>16901939
good news

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>>16901939
kek, what will that chinese company that copied new shepard do now.

>>16901958
Mars is only accessible every two years. You need something for starship to do the rest of the time

>>16901961
Most of the flights would be carrying fuel to orbit

>>16901939
Okay wait holy fucking based. Should’ve just killed it entirely (hopefully they will). This is the news I’ve been waiting for and this might perhaps be the first time I’ve ever complimented the big Blue Who for something here on /sfg/

>>16901790
AR goggles will replace phones.

>>16901966
elon has probably never used real AR so he wouldnt know. its not something most people understand until they experience for themselves.

>>16901966
I don’t think it will but I wish it would. AR is one of those things that normies would absolutely eat up an make part of their everyday lives. It just hasn’t been implemented correctly by anyone yet

>>16901958
>regressing
huh?! Blue Origin is putting more resources on a vehicle that goes beyond earth orbit. How is that regressing?

>>16901969
Unless it's somehow implemented directly into your brains it will never work. People will never wear weird goggles.

>>16901972
Smart raybans ar glasses already exist
https://www.ray-ban.com/usa/ray-ban-meta-ai-glasses
These likely gradually replace phones.

I do not think the vast majority of people will ever be comfortable having direct neural implants.

>>16901971
Anon is just doing performative doomerism

>>16901976
those arent true AR like quest 3

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sad day for spaceflight

>>16901978
well I'm going to perform some real sodomy on his bitch ass if he doesn't stop

>>16901939
Bullish on Blue Origin. If it was traded publically then now is time to BUY.

>>16901939
Sad news for thrill-seekers.

>>16901988
>if only i could get away from myself.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqjy-Y4EG7o

>>16901857
I'm gonna be fucking rich holy shit

>>16901988
This is what is meant to be.
Space habitats are the way, planets are a mistake.

>>16901939
What the fuck? So I'm never going to space

>>16901939
And now Boigah just wrote an article about it.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/01/heres-why-blue-origin-just-ended-its-suborbital-space-tourism-program/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFdPFyc-xtc

>>16901996
it's fucking over, man

It has been over for a while now.

>>16901785
Maintaining the status quo through gatekeeping.

>>16901921
No? An extinction level event on Earth that simultaneously manages to destroy life on Mars as well is several orders of magnitude less likely.

>>16902018
I think only the second coming of Christ could do that lol. Or some asininely insane hypothetical like a random formation of a supermega magentar with a pole ejecta jet of doom that sweeps across the whole solar system in one fell swoop, or a creeping rogue black hole that passes through the solar system and just rapes everyone’s orbit away from the Sun

Hey I'm a faggot and I know about aliens

This is how they do it:

There is something in the core of stars that resists normal gravity. This is the reason the entire universe is not just one big blob.

They mine some of that and know how to manipulate it, congrats now your ship floats.

Since your ship doesn't weigh anything, you can propel it forward with light. Light does have mass. I have only seen this type of ship once, and it can turn in space. When I show this ship to other people with my psychic powers they see a flying bell, which told me that they focus the light with sound. The ship had two engines and left two trails of golden light behind it.

That's how light speed is done. Light speed is lame though, some aliens can teleport. Wormholes are real but I'm too dumb to know understand anything about them. Some aliens even have what I call 'phase machines' that can basically be in two places at once, go figure.

How do I get my Nobel prize?

>>16902021
>There is something in the core of stars that resists normal gravity
Yeah it’s called the electrostatic force

https://news.mydrivers.com/1/1101/1101290.htm
Single-chamber YF-130 (240tf Kerolox, 220 Bar, 308s SL isp, plans to be uprated to 300tf) will be used on the "Long March 10C"/"Commercial Long March 10A" expected to have its maiden launch next year
It'll likely have at least the capabilities of the Terran R, maybe of the current initial version of New Glenn

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https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2017380425690149144
>The booster transport stand at Starbase pad 2 today.

>>16902024
implessive

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https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2017364476488769712

>>16902027
Stop making me sick

I think if you time-traveled the average /sfg/ user from as recently as circa 2023 into the modern day and they saw how quickly the trajectory of everything has changed they would simply die on the spot of a broken heart

>>16902029
kek.
I used to worship Musk as the greatest man to ever live, unironically. Since I stopped paying attention to anything he says now to avoid blackpill overdoses you can tell it's bad.

>>16902025
where is the rust?

The ONLY way to settle Mars is to rush there just as quick as you can, so that the settlers have motivation to survive.
All this talk about "commercialising space" so that people have a reason to be there is just a distraction

>>16902021
>>>/x/

>>16902027
only elon could make $50 billion in a day

https://x.com/MicahMaidenberg/status/2017364803728114043
>Some launch news from Amazon Leo - the Amazon sat business has hired SpaceX to conduct 10 more flights for it, per a new FCC filing. Business also now listing 24 flights with Blue Origin (started with a dozen launches + options)

>>16902038
Enron accounting department too maybe, lol

>>16902039
lol

E's in the fiiiilleeeesssss

>>16902039
terawave sisters bawling rn

>>16902043
Ten additional Falcon 9s and 12 additional New Glenns doesn't make it look like they've got much faith in Vulcan ever hitting that high launch cadence that Tory was talking about

iss was boosted to the highest point it's ever been 422 km. neat

>>16902029
Few things have positively shocked me in speed over the past ~3 years in spaceflight desu.
A lot did shock me in how slow they were however.
Personally the only thing that did shock me in speed were:
>Vast Haven
>Some LV developments of chinese commercial companies (less so their operations)
RL and SX are doing better than i expected but that's more because the competition is slower than I did, in absolute term I definitely expected both to have been quicker

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>>16901992
We sure will be

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https://x.com/xDaily/status/2017404955385102480

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/musks-starlink-updates-privacy-policy-allow-consumer-data-train-ai-2026-01-30/

>>16902056
I am the most naive bitch ever because this doesn’t bother me really, and honestly it’s at least comforting to have a company to bootlick for such as apple or X who are at least honest about it instead of some fake charade where they say everything’s private and then some lawsuit 15 years later reveals that they’ve just been training off of your data anyways the whole time.
Do whatever you want bro, I am unfortunately offering the “I have nothing to hide” argument lol.

>>16902056
Oh no, the bubble bursting will drag down SpaceX. Don't do it.

>>16902056
>unless users opt out, data will be used for stuff
How is this different from every major website or platform in the last 25 years trying to leverage its data? If people can clip an opt out option, how is this even an issue?

>>16902056
So I can train Starlink to be racist?

>>16902056
*downloads JAV*

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So in the last few days
>western space agencies detected chinese space debris was about to come down to earth
>china at no point warned anybody about it, leaves the question if they decided to keep quite about it in hopes nobody would notice or they dont even have a clue about their own stuff they shoot up there
>the western world acts as if this is business as usual and ignores the fact that china is flirting with the Kessler syndrome.

So what is going to be the breaking point?

>>16902056
lol and just like that starlink is dead

>>16902029
go even further, to 2021, and then show them how in 2026 SLS, New Glenn, Vulcan, H3, and Ariane 6 all have gone into orbit before Starship, which is STILL in experimental stage, haven't sent anything into orbit, haven't tested orbital refilling, got its payload reduced from 150T to 'at most' 100T which is still several versions away, also got its pressurized volume reduced by a third, ditched methane sweating for a traditional heat shield composed of thousands of unique pieces just like the shuttle, still hasn't launched from florida, found the 'chomp' bay doors too difficult and opted for a pez dispenser, still years away from a manned variant, still no tanker versions, and blows up in every other launch. oh, and don't forget to tell them about the SpaceX IPO, possible merge with Tesla, dearmoon cancellation, 2022 2024 and 2026 mars launch windows missed, blue moon, musk being in the epstein files, and artemis ii happening for real thus beating spacex.
they'd kill themselves on the spot.

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>>16902089
That was the Zhuque-3 upper stage? Fun fact it recently came out that Landspace didn't have a predetermined target orbit for this launch, they internally just had a goal to reach the highest orbit possible with the circularization burn burning to depletion, they hoped to reach at least 140km apogee to declare a success.

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i cant believe it, i really cant fucking believe it.

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>>16901988
grok is getting good
i didn't prompt anything but the image

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https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2017404416022679967

>>16902109
the tortoise won the race

>>16902112
On a escalator made of gold.

>>16902115
i love him

>>16902115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2017313346375004487?s=20
>On December 8, the Perseverance rover safely trundled across the surface of Mars.
>This was the first AI-planned drive on another planet. And it was planned by Claude.

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>>16902119
Again I must ask what criteria we are judging on here, have not these rovers been running on automated data already that "train" on older data and make informed decisions. AI is a fucking buzzword, it's all just computer. Real AI i.e. real sentience by any meaningful use of the word is here or ready to be here quite soon. GAY

>>16902115
legit read as "i will let you down"

>>16902128
Apropos

>>16902027
I'm gonna be unbelievably fucking rich

>>16902138
You own zero SpaceX stock, so no, you won't.

>>16902141
You sound very poor. That's so sad

>>16902141
Anyone who owns Tesla will get free SpaceX

>>16902115
thanks Elon. Im trying my best too

>>16902115
Words are cheap.
I'm still waiting for my artificial gf.

>>16902110
Still thinks fishing means making fishes have a bath.

>>16902161
Imagine being too cringe for Epstein to want to hang out with you

>>16902163
>epstein was shitposting on xbox live and 4chan
>Elon sent him cringe reddit shit so he persona non grata'd him
understandable

>>16902018
I think people underestimate how difficult is to wipe out all of humanity.
A disaster able to kill 99% is possible but the population left would still be in the millions.
And the planet would stilll be more inhabitable than Mars.

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https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2017464161576391148
>SpaceX is requesting to launch and operate a constellation of 1 million satellites with unprecedented computing capacity (orbital data centers) to power advanced AI, according to a new FCC filing.

>SpaceX: "Launching a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step towards becoming a Kardashev II-level civilization—one that can harness the Sun's full power-while supporting Al-driven applications for billions of people today and ensuring humanity's multi-planetary future amongst the stars."

>>16902171
Absolute state of spacex

>>16901738
Dyson swarm, but y no skyhook still?

Maybe someone should shill space elevator to elon

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On Monday Elon will cancel the HLS contract and pay any penalties in order to prioritize Starship and deploying orbital data centers.

Kardashian Scale seems too coarse. You're either utilising all the energy of your homeworld, or all the energy of your star, or the entire galaxy.

>>16902180
You can be kardashev 0.1 etc

>>16902181
How embarrassing

>>16902180
It's always parrotted by Elon "Order of Magnitude" Musk

>>16902178
This will get us to Mars faster, it has to

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>>16902180
>Kardashian Scale

>>16902192
who took this photo of yo mama?

>>16902171
>1 million satellites
this actually has to be fake news

>>16902195
It will be carried by one million starships

>>16902178
girls FTW

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>Awesome detail from the SpaceX orbital datacenter filing - heliocentric disposal of satellites at their end of life. This is necessary long-term and is something we've been talking about for a while. You can't re-enter that amount of mass without causing problems.
https://twitter.com/ezrafeilden/status/2017503632330280983

so we're just going to have a junkyard in space filled with millions of satellites?

>>16902202
You wanted industrialization of space
You got it

>>16902202
Think of all those space janitor jobs, anon.

Girls FTW!

>>16902206
Is that industry profitable?

>>16902202
This is the kind of thing we observed around Tabby's Star

>>16902209
As profitable as GPUs in space

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>>16902029
take me further back famalam

>>16902099
Amazon beats Elon to both the Moon and Mars.

>>16902202
>Awesome detail from the SpaceX orbital datacenter filing - heliocentric disposal of satellites at their end of life. This is necessary long-term and is something we've been talking about for a while. You can't re-enter that amount of mass without causing problems.
That's not what it says. It says active disposal first. And then dumping them in orbit. Then maybe escape trajectory. In that order.
The concerning part is the middle one. Having thousands of tonnes of dead satellites in orbit for hundreds of years. Not clear if 1/100 is globally or per or orbit, or per spacecraft. Also after 100 years your satellites are going to break apart.
Active disposal into the atmosphere is the only rational option.

>>16902223
Maybe hoping that after that much time there's a better way to recover them than could currently exist?

the world sucks

>>16902226
deal
withthis .
thanyou

>>16901988
>>16901993
this but actually unironically
anyone above average iq should quickly realize how pointless planet colonies are.
the fact that not one entity or individual with influence is taking this seriously or even considering it is proof that we're not ready for space.

>>16902235
Ok you can live in your tin can in the middle of nowhere
I'll live where the resources are
>but muh gravity well
Learned helplessness from decades of ultra-expensive launches.

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>>16902226
>epic
>FTW!
>good sir
he sounds like early 2010s 4channer
curious

>>16902236
what resources are mined on Manhattan Island?

>>16902236
(You) will live in a shitty bugpod because that's the most efficient use of space in your retarded cattle commune on some shithole inhospitable planet you call home (but you know it's not a real home to you).
>resources
why would you establish an asteroid mining and processing operation in a gravity well kek

>>16902244
>why would you establish an asteroid mining and processing operation in a gravity well kek
Because that's where the resources are
In your L5 colony, there's nothing but vaccum.

>>16902226
Remember when the picture of him and Maxwell was circulating? He said like it was just a random encounter. While he knew what party island was for a long time, and had begged to go there.

>>16902243
Human suffering.

>>16902247
no shit

>>16902053
Vast are starting to delay things though. They just about managed to launch their test probe last year, but the station itself has been delayed to next year

>>16902247
Well how come there aren't any other pictures?

>>16902253
vast are clueless
t. knower

Is this a safe place to hide from the schizophrenic /x/-refugee AI spammers?

>>16902248
that explains the hasidic mine shafts

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>>16902256
sure, take a seat

>>16901939
Excellent news.

>>16902226
HUGE blow to the
>"Elon doesn't actually have autism, he's just larping to make you like him"
crowd.

1 MILLION SATELLITES
100 GW/Y IN SOLAR POWER IN SPACE
100 GW/Y OF COMPUTE IN SPACE
1000s of STARSHIP LAUNCHES PER YEAR

SOLAR
CHIPS
SATS
ROCKETS

>>16902226
This is fake

>>16902268
Activate ARCHIMEDES II

>>16902269
No, it's 100% true. Elon is such a massive sperg that even an Israeli blackmail OP doesn't want to hang out with him.

>>16902245
Put the colony within reasonable travel time from a mining or processing operation.

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>>16902245
resources to do what exactly? You're not bringing any of that up to orbit. Any serious colonization effort WILL use raw material and products from factories in space.
>In your L5 colony
with a space habitat you can go anywhere you want. Or bring the rocks to you instead, likely utilizing their own supply of volatiles. But nonetheless, L5 is a good spot for some heavy industry utilizing Moon mining and mass drivers, if they prove to be viable.
>but then why not just settle the Moon?
low gravity makes life and work awkward, not to mention the associated health issues. What's the gravity cutoff point for jello babies? For healthy childhood? What about radiation protection? All of this applies to Mars as well btw. People won't emigrate until these question are answered and even then, they'd choose an environment more similar to what they are used to. For a cylinder colony, none of that is a concern.
Planet based colonies are inherently inefficient in all manners except self sustainability.

did Musk take the O'Neill cylinder pill?

>>16902280
>resources to do what exactly?
Just live.
Unlike you spincucks spinning around uselessly forever, desperately trying to sell delta-v to passing ships.

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>>16902285
>Just live.
and that is exactly the difference between well dwellers (soulless subhumans) and spacers (ascendants)
You can "just live" perfectly fine here on earth, which is why you will never leave it. You are content being cattle and so is most of the world, it's why (we) still haven't bothered going outside.
YOU are the issue. The leftists and faggots are an obvious enemy, sure, but you are insidious. Your kind infests any spaceflight effort like a cancer and depreciates it into meaninglessness. You have no ambition and you try your best to drag everyone else down with you. Because you want to
>Just live.

>>16902306
We have to become a level 1 civilization first.

https://www.scribd.com/document/990167804/SpaceX-Orbital-Data-Center-Request

https://www.scribd.com/document/990173574/FCC-Technical-SpaceX-AI-Data-Center

the FCC filing

>>16902319
that is going to happen naturally at pretty early stages of building a dyson sphere
though this 1mil constellation is orbiting the earth, so pretty far from K1 still I guess

>>16902315
So what are you planning to do you in your little spinhab

imagine being a chinese general and you have to take out a million satellites

>>16902328
just nuke space

>>16902326
whatever the fuck I want (mostly browse the interplanetary net and shitpost)

>>16902326
nuking earthers first and foremost
then speedrunning interstellar exploration/colonization while genetically engineering mankind to be smarter, ethics be damned.
also shitposting on the colony version of 4chan.

>>16902328
taking out lots of satellites is easy, taking them out non-kinetically is the holy grail rn

Spinqueers are pathetic larpers.

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You either choose now to continue supporting the global Jewish pedophile cabal or kill the Mars dream for the foreseeable future and accept that you won't see it happen in your lifetime, sparing your ancestors the misfortune of Jewish influence expanding beyond the Heavens. Which one is it?

>>16902348
I meant descendants, but you get the point.

>>16902306
>>16902171
> becoming a Kardashev II-level civilization
Oh boy. We've reached peak popsci.

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>>16902355
>>16902306
>>16902171

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>>16901918
>rentered over the South Pacific after all that fuss
absolute ballistic gods ensurely the peaceful and safe use of space

>>16902309
That's roughly all of TSMCs planned advanced wafer capacity.

>>16902363
yes, that is why Tesla is going to build their own Gigafab

>>16902367
On the moon

>>16902375
no, the moon is for solar panel production

>>16902283
The Elon cylinder you mean?

>>16902383
The Elongated Habitat

>>16902283
>>16902383
>cylinder
yikes, only dyson swarm

>>16902375
>>16902379
Tricky, none of the commonly used solar cell production processes are suitable for the moon since it's extremely poor in hydrogen, nitrogen, carbon, and fluorine. Halide perovskite cells made with vacuum sputtering instead of solution might be plausible. You're still importing carbon in that case, but in meaningfully low enough quantity that it might be worthwhile.

>>16902056
I am proud to be used to train AI's

>>16902389
the swarm is for AI satellites, people will live in cylinders

>>16902390
as long as there is some way to create panels, doesn't even matter much how inefficient they are as the moon has plenty of materials
with mass drivers and robots its a self-sustaining system shitting out panels

why did they do new shepherd in the first place ?
Why continue it for a decade?

>>16902394
>a self-sustaining system shitting out panels
That's the problem, shitting out panels without any imports is pretty damn hard. Blue Origin has a dedicated team that's been working on it for years and they're still, as far as I know, dealing with a lot of the challenges to doing it via pure ISRU. It gets a lot easier if there's something you can procure from Earth or another body.

>>16902397
testing stuff, not sure why they made a crew version though

>>16902398
hmm
one silver lining in this is that if this is truly the case and no solar panel can be made from moon raw materials, then that is going to be a forcing function for driving more and more efficient moon cargo delivery systems

>>16902222
nice digits because it's true.
I have been saying for years that Blue will land cargo and humans on the moon before SpaceX, youa re right about Mars too if Benzo decides to. Blue simply have an achievable archietecture, SpaceX is working toward the design laid out by Musk which is 5x harder than it needs to be, and has lotsof baked in bullshit problems because Musk thinks they are cool features.

>>16902406
>I have been saying for years
No you haven't, stop lying.

>>16902402
Ceres is the other key to bootstrapping the industrialization of the solar system. The volatiles the moon is missing are available in abundance there, but Ceres is so brutal that it might be more reasonable to start with teleoperated (or AI controlled) robots from an O'neill Cylinder than trying to put boots on the surface.

>>16902410
I was. Difference is back even just 3 years ago the whole thread would come crashing down on you as a troll for saying the slightest thing positive about BO and negative about SpaceX. Got banned a few times because of apparent trolling.

>>16902420
Any other lies you’d like to share with the class?

>>16902420
lmao

>>16902420
BO is a joke and spacex is 99% of space
So you best not talk shit

>>16902424
your dad likes to share his hairy asshole with my cock and kiss my chest when I'm done, idiot

>>16902427
>spacex is 99% of LEO
ftfy
oh and LEO isn't space btw, sorry!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>16902202
>send too much iron junk into the sun
>sun goes supernova
Elon must be stopped

>>16902438
It's barely 8 AM on the East Coast, how are you already crunk

>>16902441
Hahah

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How the hell do you cool a data center in space in a practical way? Surely that is a showstopper?
Even if you can cool it, the temperature extremes due to lack of atmopshere seem to just be a disadvantage, as well as the increased error rate due to radiation. There seem to be no pros to in space compute aside from "it is in scifi", only disadvantages.

>>16902446
>reddit

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Nooooo!

>>16902447
>How the hell do you cool a data center in space in a practical way?
With hopes and dreams.

>>16902447
you cool it with a radiator, you optimize the chips to run at higher temperatures
the pro is that you have unlimited power, real estate and cooling (when you solve the problems)
yes, the cooling is going to be an engineering problem like the radiation, but a H100 has been demonstrated to run in orbit already

>>16902450
>>16902447
Radiators. Everyone seems to think 100 kilowatts thermal is a lot, and it really isn't, especially if you use a heat pump. These things are going up on Starship, so stop thinking like a Mass Autist.

>>16902447
The main pro would be potentially reduced time to get it powered if it's going to take years and be more regulated on the surface.

>>16902454
>These things are going up on Starship
So 250 mil for a 30T delivery? seems like mass autism is still required.

>>16902458
Starships expended cost about $100 million, so I have no idea where you get $250 million, and 30 tons was Block 1 with reuse.

>>16902454
And how much can starship carry?
Not to mention size constraints will still be a thing if it's going through pez dispenser.

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>>16902463
>up to one million satellites
>altitudes between 500 km and 2,000 km
kessler bros?

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>>16902460
>And how much can starship carry?
More. What's more, 30 tons is still a lot, just less than targeted.

ARTEMIS 2

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>>16902472
Im still excited about it.

>>16902447
>There seem to be no pros to in space compute aside from "it is in scifi", only disadvantages.
The pro is money, at least in the short term. People can see the insane levels of investment being thrown at OpenAI, Oracle and Nvidia, with little regard for returns. They want a big slice of that pie, and Grok isn't exactly competitive. They want a niche to sell to investors. It's something that they are uniquely qualified for, and it will massively inflate the share price with speculation. It's not a coincidence that this was decided at the same moment they are going public. Whether or not it is useful or profitable seems to be irreverent. I guess they also hope it would give them priority in buying hardware, being able to give manufactures a space-hardware premium. And I'm sure it isn't irrelevant that it would make him the first trillionaire.

The risk is the bubble bursting. The industry is unlikely to vanish overnight, but a sudden drought in investment will cool things off.

>>16902472
but did they really have to launch it at 20 after midnight on sunday/monday when everyone has to go to work in the morning?
Saturday night would have been way better for viewership.

>>16902472
I was chatting with my mother just now, I mentioned they're flying around the moon in a week(?), her response was basically oh, anyway my ankle is aching. But then again she saw the Apollo stuff back in the day so maybe it's not very interesting 50 years later

>need like 20 refuels for a single moon ar mars starship
>starlinks
>space data centers
It's going to take years for them to reach falcon 9 cadence.
So many things they want to do and the rocket that supposed to do all that doesn't even work.
I feel like they are stretching themselves thin.

>>16902485
I can’t help but think that any Lunar flight will be refilled by tankers atop expendable SuperHeavies to minimize the launches needed. Everyone keeps saying no, no, they want to always fly these reusable. But anything going to the Moon is going to be an Artemis thing with NASA money and if Raptor3 really is as cheap as everyone says then I don’t see why they couldn’t just build and spend some super heavies for Artemis

>>16902488
*expend
not spend

>>16902387
the Elon-Gated Community

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>Liftoff at 04:01UTC on January 31, Long March 2C launched AlSat-3B for Algeria

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how does he say all this with a straight face while starship still hasn't gone into orbit

>>16902507
The same way Blue Origin did before New Glenn went orbital.

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>Hasn't been updated since Dec 11
What was the total F9 count for 2025?

>>16902509
165.

>>16902513
none of these are reaching orbit btw

>>16902516
how will these 13 ships die?

>>16902518
*11

>>16902516
source?

https://spacenews.com/spacex-files-plans-for-million-satellite-orbital-data-center-constellation/
>The filing did not include a deployment schedule or cost estimate. SpaceX requested a waiver of FCC milestone requirements that typically require half of a constellation to be deployed within six years of authorization and the full system within nine years. The company argued the milestones are intended to prevent spectrum warehousing and are unnecessary because it would use Ka-band spectrum on a non-interference basis.

>>16902518
extremely painfully

>>16902533
>>16902533
>>16902533
>>16902533

>>16902518
with a whimper

>>16902513
>>16902514
I'M SO FUCKING BOARD LAUNCH ANOTHER ALREADY

>>16902513
>>16902514
>they are still not sure about final v3 design

>>16902543
NET March.

>>16902363
For reference. 100 GW is 143 million GPUs per year, assuming 700 W (H100). Nvidia actually shipped something like 2 or 3 million in 2025.

>>16902550
Elon's companies are already spinning up their own ASICs for AI work, and they use a lot less power than Nvidia GPUs for a given amount of application specific processing power.

Last chance to get aboard the Blorgin train. Get in now or fuk off forever with lamex.

>>16902518
they will live on forever in our memories

>>16902555
And how long do you think it's going to take for them to produce a competitive product? Not to mention building out all the support and software needed. And then how long will it take to produce them 100 times faster than the market leader? Google are building TPUs, and they are only expecting to build 3 million in 2026, after a decade development.
>they use a lot less power than Nvidia GPUs for a given amount of application specific processing power.
All that maters to the calculation is the power per unit. If it is lower, then would need to produce even more to get to 100 GW/yr.

>>16902568
They're probably 18 months from a large scale TSMC tapeout, and probably 36 months from opening their own fab(s). You're right, they will need to build even more hardware than Nvidia GPUs alone would suggest.

>>16902563
, . ?

>>16902482
It's gonna be that late? Man, my Dad wanted to come watch it with me, that's gonna be way too late to do that.

>>16902588
saw it on here
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/

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>>16902226
>>16902603
Typo. He meant:
>I was* refused (that one time).