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Nothing ever happens - edition
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https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2018673438613762183
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/02/unable-to-tame-hydrogen-leaks-na sa-delays-launch-of-artemis-ii-unti l-march/
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lol
lmao
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What did she mean by this?
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The Shuttle fueling hardware they used in SLS was so reliable it produced an average of one scrub per successful launch. Then they planned to fly it with a Delta IV Heavy launch cadence that would ensure a significant chunk of NASA's geriatric workforce would retire between missions, taking what minimal operational experience they'd gleaned with them.
No one has any right to be surprised at this sort of outcome.
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Serious question:
How is NASA going to build space stations without the Shuttle's Canadarm?
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>>16904909
Can this ET derived shit not leak for once?
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i dont claim any right to be surprised but i am, a little bit. but thinking back to a previous press release it was said by some here that it sounded like they were hedging a bit and here we are.
i mean hell, they've only had years to get ready for this.
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>>16904964
>starship has a literal blowout on a lox line during fueling
>fixed in 24 hours
>nasa needs a whole new window when it hasn't even entered the original
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>Asking about how SLS can still be experiencing hydrogen leak issues three years after Artemis 1, Honeycutt says on the ground side, they are limited in how much realism they can put into testing and simulations.
>"We like to test like we fly, but this interface is a very complex interface and when you're dealing with hydrogen, it's a small molecule, it's highly energetic. We like if for that reason. We do the best we can. This one caught us off-guard."
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>>16905019
Do you think military psyops teams help with messaging during major events like these?
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What's the status of space crime? If your servers are on the moon, can you run a thinking machine that denies the Holocaust?
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https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2018753967505940890
>The main cold box was lifted into position today at the SpaceX Starbase air separation plant.
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>>16905087
The same government that just scrubbed its first manned moon launch in 50+ years due to leaky hydrogen, that government?
How?
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>>16905090
Just paint the moon blue, they can't do shit then
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>Meet the RS25 - E2047
>Flights: STS-91, STS-96, STS-101, STS-98, STS-104, STS-112, STS-115, STS-118, STS-123, STS-126, STS-128, STS-131, STS-132, STS-134, STS-135, & Soon to be Artemis II.
This engine here flew on Atlantis, the final space shuttle flight
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>>16905098
Don't worry I just thought it was funny that it was one of the reasons that an article named for the X raid. It's just very funny seeing these two things side by side
>“The investigation has been expanded following other reports denouncing Grok’s operation on the X platform, which led to the dissemination of Holocaust denial content and sexually explicit deepfakes,” it said.
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https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2018768591370260908
>A view of Massey's test site this morning. Booster 19 in the middle after some initial cryo proof testing last night. Test tank 18.3 has since been cut in half.
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>>16905151
I don't understand the issue whatsoever. So richfags want to put computing in space and they're willing to pay for it? Okay.
I don't care if it's in space or on the ground, I'm not the one paying for it.
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2018789510658834558
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>>16905186
Let me tell you how you play this stock. Wait for the Arabs to fake pump it then short HARD.
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Admit it, you loved these sexy beasts.
>nooo they were dangerous
Do you want to live forever?
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Is SpaceX going to keep getting dragged into shit because of twitter now?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2018785481308438907
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https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2018843652634898656
>The top half of the B18.3 test tank is staged on Massey Way for transport back to the production site later tonight.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwMRMh_6jbw
>Elon Musk's Wildest Idea Yet? 1 Million Orbital Data Centers to Power AI | Starship Update
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are there any good reports on different countries space industries? especially annual reports.
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>>16904909
What a sick joke.
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Disregarding private industry, so no kiwis, and taking all of Europe as just ESA, I like to divide it into several tiers, each one miles ahead of the next one:
- The 'Big six': USA, China, Russia, ESA, India, Japan
- The other big six: Ukraine (RIP), Iran, Israel, South Korea, Canada, North Korea
- 3rd division?: Brazil, Argentina, Pakistan, UAE, maybe Australia
- 4th tier: everyone else
The order within each category is messier and depends if we are talking about human spaceflight capabilities, exploration beyond LEO, orbital launchers, etc.
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>>16905365
Europe doesn't hate commercial space, there is a big satellite industry there. It's one of the things Ariane was built to grantee access. The incident which triggered this was a fight over two communication satellites launched in the US. The US insisted on a non-compete clause, forbidding them from competing with Intelsat.
There are military missions, but they don't have the same bloated budgets the US does. It is not part of ESA's role, and is left to member states.
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>>16905356
>America 250
Reminds me that the Viking 1 lander was meant to touchdown on Mars on July 4th, 1976 for the Bicentennial. Due to various issues, it didn't land under July 20th.
Will NASA try to do something for the Quarter Millennial if Artemis 2 gets delayed a couple more times?
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>There are military missions, but they don't have the same bloated budgets the US does. It is not part of ESA's role, and is left to member states.
EU wants to federalise the military and space force is the branch I can see this actually work out fast and without any friction.
mainly because no individual country can afford a full space force, other than France and Germany and the German one is too cringe to take seriously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0-f9RNfBqw
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and we weep for the environment
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fuckingbeatme
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The main advantage for an EU army is to eliminate duplication. e.g. 6 different types of main battle tanks. 17 or so types of fighter aircraft. Instead of producing different equipment they could invest in systems which the armies individually lack, like ballistic missile defense.
Space isn't really a big enough slice of the pie to bother about. And ultimately it will come to the usual conflict, in that most European armies are defensive plus some deployments with NATO support. They don't require a huge global network. Whereas France, with it's overseas departments, will demand it. Also there is already some collaboration on military space projects, adding EU bureaucracy to that may make things worse.
>no individual country can afford a full space force
There's no such thing. What an EU army would require in space will be different to the US. The US spends far more than it needs to, a lot of US defense spending is about jobs, in muh district. Most European countries spend too little, but you can go to far and just burn money.
An EU army is often talked about but pretty far away. When crisis strikes the EU leadership is paralytic, because they have wait to see what the leaders of member states say first. There is no common foreign policy either. EU presidents are not powerful, they are usually failed national politicians. It's far more likely to have joint regiments and procurement programs.
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SpaceX and the investors they find will be the ones who pay for it. Investment will either come in the form of debt or equity in the combined company. It isn't free money.
How it goes depends on the business plan. If they plan to use all the capacity internally, for xAI, then they will have to find a way of returning a profit on that. Which hasn't been done yet.
If they rent out capacity, then they will depend upon the market continuing to thrive. If the bubble does burst, a lot of these companies could go bankrupt.
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Where is their JWST? But yeah, JAXA is still up there with the top two (NASA, ESA).
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>>16905496
Wheres europes manned spaceflight program?
Europe didn't even make jwst, they just put it up there.
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>Europe didn't even make jwst, they just put it up there.
Europe made two of the instruments, NIRSpec and the MIRI optical bench. It is the NASA, ESA, CSA JWST.
>Wheres europes manned spaceflight program?
Columbus is attached to the ISS now. They also built many of the sections on the US side, as part of their contribution.
And Orion's ESM. Independent manned launch is not the pinnacle of spaceflight.
Where is India's or JAXA's JUICE? Or Planck? Or Gaia? Nowhere.
JAXA is still recovering from mission failure after mission failure. They keep descoping their ambitions.
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2018959222575423774
>Peter’s assessment is inaccurate. As my posts show, I have never wavered in believing that we should make life multiplanetary.
>Now, more than ever.
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>What an EU army would require in space will be different to the US.
Is it? Even if we were to ignore the French totally-not-colonies in the Pacific and South America, we need to cover North Sea, Atlantic, North Africa and Russia
that's already like 1/3 of planet
>The US spends far more than it needs to, a lot of US defense spending is about jobs, in muh district.
I fail to see how that's any different to EU any multi-national projects.
Even the smallest country will throw a hissy fit and buy American if they don't get to subcontract at least one door handle and the co-pilot's cup holder
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cope
we shouldn't need to argue we are better than China, Russia and India
It should be unquestionably self-evident
this is why nobody has any pride anymore
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>Is it? Even if we were to ignore the French totally-not-colonies in the Pacific and South America, we need to cover North Sea, Atlantic, North Africa and Russia that's already like 1/3 of planet
You don't need geostationary satellites covering the whole world then. That's already a saving.
>I fail to see how that's any different to EU any multi-national projects.
My point was that you shouldn't judge capacity by assuming the US has the exact needed capacity, and the EU would match that.
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>>16905451
I learned about this last year. In the eyes of the DoD, only the US and China have early warning satellites with lookdown capability, Russia's EKS apparently does not have it lol. Ofc the EU can make the required MgCdTe sensors. They just need to get their act together.
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What’s your reaction going to be when we are 15 years down the road and Musk was yet again right and proved everybody wrong
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Say that again pls.
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>What’s your reaction going to be when we are 15 years down the road and Musk was right and we have mars bases and shit
>posted from my Iphone 3G in 2009
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Kek bitch is flat
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berger dropping a scathing article about SLS
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/02/nasa-finally-acknowledges-the-el ephant-in-the-room-with-the-sls-roc ket/
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we may have detected a black hole that exploded
https://www.umass.edu/news/article/did-we-just-see-black-hole-explode- physicists-umass-amherst-think-so-a nd-it-could
https://journals.aps.org/prl/accepted/10.1103/r793-p7ct
>Schwarzschild black hole
oh nvm its nothing since those are toy models that dont exist in reality
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>>16905637
Scott Manley
@DJSnM
I see people asking why SLS is launching once every 3 years while the more complex shuttle that it was based on flew more often.
SLS Is still in development, that upper stage is an interim stage that needs replaced.
The funding may be a huge part of NASA’s budget, but it’s a lot less than the kind of money needed to fund development and flight operations when the contractors don’t have much incentive to go fast, in fact I expect some contractors make more by dragging out development.
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@guardian "Elon Musk is taking SpaceX’s minority shareholders for a ride
Merger with loss-making xAI looks to some investors more like a bailout than a rocket trip to the future"
Mainstream media catching up to where intelligent observers were a decade ago.
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Can you even put H200 GPUs in space without significant compromises? My impression is that chips for datacenter or really any terrestrial tasking tend to be thinner and more vulnerable to radiation than any hardened space chip. Like you can't just take a Starlink and jam in H200 without something else giving way.
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Elon isn't putting H200s in space
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https://x.com/dwarkesh_sp/status/2019102570720211211
Dwarkesh does podcasts specifically about AI, so this is probably going to be about the merger mostly (and I guess the usual stuff about SpaceX, I guess there could be some tidbits here, Dwarkesh lets people speak)
the other dude is the co-founder of Stripe, a fintech company (payments mostly)
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https://x.com/collision/status/2019102517171519698
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https://x.com/beffjezos/status/2018967283805421859
maybe he is just trying to have a bit cleaner look, trying to look presentable to the bankers and so on
after the IPO or a reverse merger with Tesla he can mostly ignore them again
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https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/2019111243173491117
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https://x.com/collision/status/2019102517171519698
>It will be 10X cheaper to get power from space than on earth
>in 30-36 months (~3 years) time frame
>eventually, they'll launch more AI data centers in space per year than entire AI data centers there are on earth combined
>mini fab for chips first then big fabs
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okay so disregarding Elon Scam Magnitudes(ESM) we get
>It will be ~1X cheaper to get power from space than on earth
>in ~30 years time frame
>eventually, they'll launch a hundredfold less AI data centers in space per year than entire AI data centers there are on earth combined
>mini fab for chips first then bankruptcy
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https://x.com/mymatrixplug/status/2019114538776330502
>New boundary wall for Pad 1 expansion going in.
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>>16905603
>It's been 12 years since he floated hyperhoop.
I know this is bait, but he doesn't have a fiduciary requirement to make hyperloop like he does to ignore Mars and make Ai servers.
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>>16905791
Microsaar tried that. It was useful for cooling and they found that there was a much lower failure rate overall of equipment, but it wasn't worth the cost.
Funny I guess space servers will end up having the exact opposite problem
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>t. BAE, Honeywell, any other MIC scammers
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Didn't mean to reply to >>16905799
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>>16905805
Same vibes
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new push by congress to kill off SLS
>The amendment concerns acquisition powers bestowed upon NASA by Congress, stating in part: “The Administrator may, subject to appropriations, procure from United States commercial providers operational services to carry cargo and crew safely, reliably, and affordably to and from deep space destinations, including the Moon and Mars.”
>That language is fairly general in nature, but the intent seems clear. NASA’s initial missions to the Moon, through Artemis V, have a clearly defined architecture: They must use the Space Launch System rocket, Orion spacecraft, and a lander built by either SpaceX or Blue Origin to complete lunar landings.
>But after that? With this amendment, Congress appears to be opening the aperture to commercial companies. That is to say, if SpaceX wanted to bid an end-to-end Starship lunar mission, it could; or if Blue Origin wanted to launch Orion on New Glenn, that is also an option. The language is generalized enough, not specifying “launch” but rather “transportation,” that in-space companies such as Impulse Space could also get creative. Essentially, Congress is telling the US industry that if it is ready to step up, NASA should allow it to bid on lunar cargo and crew missions.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/02/us-house-takes-first-step-toward -creating-commercial-deep-space-pro gram/
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so potentially 40 Starships staged while waiting for launch
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>>16905832
He has repeatedly said its a must to run the radiator loops at the highest possible temperature for efficiency.
They plan to do this by running the silicon itself at high temps. This sounds crazy because we all know this makes chips unstable and reduces their lifetimes, in a place where servicing is impossible. But, if you can run those fuckers at like 120C, or better yet 150C or more, you can radiate much more heat away to space with smaller radiators. This will be the balancing act here, radiator size and coolant temperature. If SpaceX-Ai decides to take silicon in-house with custom fabs, one of the main goals will be high temp operations. Not sure if anything currently available is an off the shelf solution. Im aware of gallium arsenide and others running hotter than silicon but they cannot be made into fine pitch chips with hundreds of billions of transistors, they are more for power handling components. Innovation will happen, it has to
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>>16905834
I think Musk said something like 85C, not 120C
but 85C would still be more than the 40C or whatever that watercooled NVIDIA chips run at in the datacenters (so lower than retail gpus I guess, probably due to running 24/7)
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>>16905836
Musk has talked about doing his own fab inside tesla
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>>16905841
So practically speaking, it'll likely just be dropped in a few years. We're talking about trying to play catch up to an industry running at the razors edge that changes over what's top of the line (which is what you need for AI) every few years.
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>>16905837
The radiator efficiency equations will NEVER change, so the long-term goal would be to push the chip operating temperature up as high as possible. 85C seems doable immediately, using 3rd party silicon for first generation deployments. But farther out it will be worth changing the formulation of the silicon itself to be super high temperature optimized. Who knows what limits are possible, but every degree they can push it directly translates to mass savings at launch time.
It is definitely worth doing, if AI in space is a thing, then this tech is required too
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https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2019183785024098670
>The SpaceX Starbase launch complex has been expanded today with new boundaries and silt fencing installed around the new perimeter. All of the details of the expansion can be read at the site linked below. Click on "public notice" and "project plans":
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Sadly the Stefan–Boltzmann law will not change.
It simply takes a higher temperature to radiate away kilowatts of waste heat. Thermodynamics sucks.
Maybe some kind of heat pump fuckery can run the radiators extra hot while keeping the chips cool.
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>1 million satellites
>GPU failure at datacenters averages a failure for every 6-8 hours per 10,000 GPUs at the low end
>averages around 100 failures total every 6-8 hours or 300 failures a day at a low end
I am going to assume that the GPU satellite is like a Starlink V3 at 1900 kg for 54 satellites per Starship launch due to the supposed bulk you'll need to cool and shield these things. Each satellite carrying only 1 GPU. Who knows what these would be like the end but as a baseline, it's 6 Starship launches daily just to keep the million satellite strong constellation going. This number decreases depending on weight or number of satellites per satellite.
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>>16905856
>Maybe some kind of heat pump fuckery can run the radiators extra hot while keeping the chips cool.
No shit
IDK why this idea persists that cooling in space must be completely passive with either simple fluid loops or straight up conduction.
For fucks sake there is a literal cryocooler on the JWST, refrigeration systems are quite literally everywhere but the moment they leave the atmosphere it's completely impractical to commercialize
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>>16905871
Elon's companies get their value because the tech is actually out there.
Tesla actually commercialized EVs in the biggest scale they have ever seen. FSD has been available for awhile in it's various forms for anyone to buy. Falcon 9 is the highest cadence rocket with Starship being an enormous risk to better even F9's cadence and capabilities.
If you think a handful of cars with allegedly better FSD is better than millions of cars with Tesla's FSD, that's fine, you can hold that opinion. Same with rockets with most launching only a few times a year. If you think those rockets are better that's also fine. No one who wants to invest has to listen to you.
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>>16905876
IDK if there is an infotainment system that isn't donkey shit in some way
I have a feeling there is a good reason almost every vehicle has android auto/carplay as standard and doesn't bother to gatekeep it
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>nothing ever happens
>Space flight
If a ICBM is launched from Asia to the United States, is it possible to create solutions for interception with a multiple kill vehicle. The warheads are spread out like a blunderbuss shot at midcourse phase for reference.
Is interception like 5 minutes ahead of possible spread in space as a warhead is best described stuck in a tunnel for viable targeting of mainland U.S. targets while an interceptor vehicle can spread out as far as needed.
>inb4 lulzy strategic-stability world like 1945-49.
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Does Orion’s LES even do anything when you have two giant extended and unstoppable megasolid fuckyou rockets strapped right underneath you?
Everyone cried about how the Ares-I would be a death trap even if you managed to pull away. How the hell is Space Launch System any safer?
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>>16905915
New glenn kind of gets a pass because they are at least actively un-fucking 20 years of stagnation and regression. Two successful launches, I do think Limp is seriously trying to pivot them in the right direction, and they’re driving the stake into ULA’s coffin behind the and dabbing on them while they do it.
I think killing new shep was the final thing they need to do to gear up and get serious here.
Meanwhile SLS and Vulcan deserve the hate, fuck the lot of them
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>>16905637
Every launch is an adventure
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>>16905913
They'd be fine, trust in the tower
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>get told to watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd_PrgsoMbQ
>they say its really good
>turn it on
>video is whatever
>wonder why its so popular
>half way through she lays all NASA's woes on spacex and blue origin
>says they're stealing all of NASA's money
>further says the companies are monopolies that are destroying the environment
ah, i see now why its so popular
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Artemis will NEVER lunch
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>still frosty
is the valve stuck?
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>>16905840
Not the same eco system. Tesla buys 10s of millions of chips for themselves. xAI and now SpaceX wants tens of millions of chips as well. TSMC serves third party. Tesla will serve themselves and SpaceX and they will become their own customers. This will reduce risk due to geopolitical concerns or supply chain issues for future expansion
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>>16905971
Fuck it's going to burst isn't it
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>>16905971giveung you my good energy
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>>16905897
If you don't have couple hundred thousand to spend you won't get shit from the public IPO. It will be overmarked so goddamn hard.
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>>16905958
Also
>muh humans are pointless and a waste of money when we have robots
She complains about the Artemis program being a one off and not creating space infrastructure, but that's literally what happened with commercial cargo then crew programs. Then it's some how a bad thing that SpaceX will have their logo on their lunar lander because none of the companies during Apollo did it, since they "cared about the country more than their company".
The only redeeming part about her video is she does complain about how expensive SLS is and how its a massive jobs program
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>>16905720
He looks so old bros...
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2019264360682778716
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It just doesn't feel right
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>>16906031
When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-N1GvbQofc
>SpaceX Road to IPO, with Jack Kuhr (Research Director of Payload Pro)
talking about SpaceX business things
>We discuss:
>• How Starlink has overtaken launch as SpaceX’s primary growth engine
>• Why Starlink’s constraints are more likely terminals, regulation, and physics—not satellites
>• How international markets are powering the next phase of Starlink’s expansion
>• Why aviation and maritime are the most underappreciated Starlink verticals
>• Whether Starlink “Lite” can meaningfully take share from traditional ISPs
>• How Starship and Starlink V3 could upend Falcon 9 economics
>• Why the SpaceX–xAI merger points to a fully integrated space, connectivity, and AI stack