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Artemis 2 going to the moon - edition
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yes
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2039923691916800053
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3kR2KK8TEs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n1GGe0fUBs
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Holy kino
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Omg
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I took the pic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYXljV7FK4
>Artemis II - TLI Burn to head to the Moon
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>>16944612
>consider it boring
the people who consider it boring have lost touch with reality and don't go outside human environments.
forests, coastlines, geology, ocean life
all of it is fucking beautiful man, you have to stop and appreciate it sometimes.
except for beetles, fuck beetles.
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>>16944612
>Earth is the coolest planet, we just have sensory adaption to it and consider it boring
If you didn't have sensory adaptation to it, you would find it disgusting and horrifying.
Any kind of flesh-horror movie or other media you've ever consumed is basically what we live in during our daily lives. Anything from eating, fucking, breeding to nature itself is disgusting from the point of view of someone who's not adapted to this. Even your own body is a nauseating, pulsating bag of flesh with strange colour and growths all over it.
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some kind of krystal you say?
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Is it supposed to be spinning?
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Sublime
>>16944168
The only time the Apollo program had a net approval rating from the Ameriburger public was the week after Apollo 11, the only reason the program got off the ground was was because space was an extension of the cold war arms race, and the only reason Apollo wasn't canceled before it could land on the moon is because JFK was killed before he got cold feet.
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https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/2040068344519197182
>The U.S. Space Force weather squadron at Cape Canaveral predicts a 90 percent chance of acceptable conditions for the United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket launch of the Amazon Leo mission tonight at 1:45 a.m. EDT (0545 UTC).
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>Space Shuttle was a more ambitious design (for its time) than Starship, and worked first time.
It never worked. Its main objective was to make access to space a lot cheaper but it failed spectacularly, giving the concept of reusability a bad reputation for decades.
The design also proved to be inherently unsafe.
Starship is the shuttle done right.
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>>16944647
Might be clearer by 2 AM
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https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/2039976387810099302
>SPACE-PIONEER's highly anticipated Tianlong-3 rocket failed during its debut launch from Jiuquan hours ago.
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>>16944654
Every SHLV costs billions
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>done
zozzle
>>16944638
Had he lived he probably would have tried to get a joint US-Soviet mission going, he didn't want to back out on going to the moon, but he was feeling that Apollo was going to be a boondoggle. A joint mission was his preferred out.
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>>16944667
>poor starving trans gay black indian quadriplegic midgets of african descent?
Nonsense, Israel and G-d's Chosen need that money Goyim!
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>billions for Missile Defense System that doesn't work
I'd say Theodore Postol is rolling over in his grave at such news, but he's still alive and has been saying that ballistic missile defense is impractical since the end of the gulf war.
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Faith of the heart
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https://x.com/SpaceIntel101/status/2040038152996356287
>Russian Space Forces launched Meridian-M No.21 satellite on a Soyuz 2.1a rocket from Plesetsk Cosmodrome Site 43/3 to LEO
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Our SpaceX pledge. Fractional ballistic arc to a fiery crash in the Indian Oceans by May! June at the latest.
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They used to fly every couple months, why have they stopped?
The new launchpad is done, right? It's been since last fucking summer.
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The new launch pad is "done" in the same sense that ML-2 was done: it's not. Most of the major construction is finished but there's still a lot of checks that need to be run and maybe more fitting out that's hard to spot from a livestream.
Starship might be designed for mass production but the launch complexes certainly aren't
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>>16944673
it wasn't, the figures that contrarians like stating in regards to that are assuming that all the outdated equipment that was due for replacement sent in physical aid had the exact same dollar value when it was made.
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>>16944665
>Had he lived he probably would have tried to get a joint US-Soviet mission going
in that case LHO was an unwitting patriot for peeling that big mick melon
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A toast to the cislunar future
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>>16944694
It would have been better if the cold war got dialed down in the mid 60s and that the US and USSR spent money on building spaceships together rather than building 10s of thousands of nukes.
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>>16944600
>This looks like it's a daytime shot, but, it's actually taken from the dark side of Earth, with the planet illuminated by moonlight. This lets faint details like the aurora, stars and the sodium layer show up without over exposing the planet.
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/2040076111216800064
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>>16944684
Grok, have an opinion on this?
Sure do! As of early 2026, the interval between Starship tests has shifted from a "rapid" ~1–4 month cadence in 2025 to a much slower glacier like pace, with the 12th test flight (Flight 12) delayed for 7 months. Maybe 8 months. Sorry. We suck. It's the drugs man. We're going to detox to get clean.
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>>16944696
Depends on how big pierce brosnan can make her tits
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>>16944701
but I guess there has to be SOMETHING there to scatter the light since that part closer to the sun appears brighter which it wouldn't be in a pure vacuum.
so yeah some dust and residual atmosphere has to be involved too.
or maybe it's just some leakage inside the camera from the brightest part of the horizon?
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>>16944709
As much of an anti-muskfag that I am this is an unfair comparison. Falcon 9 actually works.
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Lighting up one of these when Artemis II returns safely
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>>16944715
are you just that lonely? go find some company that's not people calling you a retard because you're pretending to be a retard online.
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>>16944668
>The Golden Dome missile shield would get $17.5 billion in FY27. However, that would be reliant on passing reconciliation, with only $400 million for the program included in the base budget request. That sum would be a slight step down from the $25 billion approved for Golden Dome in the first reconciliation bill, which the administration plans to spend in FY26.
despite the budget going from $1 trillion to $1.5 trillion, golden dome is actually getting a budget cut
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https://breakingdefense.com/2026/04/trump-to-propose-1-5-trillion-defe nse-budget-banking-on-350-billion-f rom-reconciliation/
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>>16944716
it's a cute sentiment, but it's just the kind of thing that religious folk tell themselves because they think being non-religious means being non-spiritual.
they are projecting onto others what they think they would become if they were non-believers: nihilists.
ultimately most religious people are simply too weakminded to find their own modus operandi and know they would turn into animals without a centralized religion to guide them, some people like me are just built different and don't need that coping mechanism to function.
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speaking of budget cuts
https://spacenews.com/white-house-again-proposes-steep-nasa-budget-cut s/
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>The White House’s proposal would increase spending on exploration programs by nearly 10% to $8.5 billion. That would fully fund the various elements of Artemis and includes $175 million for new robotic missions to help establish a lunar base, plans outlined by the agency last week.
in exchange they would gut nasa's science budget along with the ISS budget
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>>16944734
>b-but muh strawman
>y-you think this
you don't seriously believe anything you're saying, you're a very lonely guy who never learned how to get positive attention in real life, and thus seeks negative attention to fill the void online.
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>>16944712
He doesn't know...
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>>16944593
so what is the point of going to space if we are already in space
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>>16944706
There's a girl at my job that's shaped just like this but smaller, the problem is that's she's married
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>>16944755
so what, that means you only have to compete against one guy instead do the whole world. Flirt and become the office husband.
(word of advice though, generally recommended not to dip your pen in company ink)
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>>16944755
There are plenty of them out there for you, architect fag.
>>16944758
Do you want someone to do this to you?
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>>16944737
>>they launch too much, why are they rushing and crashing so much???11
I have never said this, and I wouldn't care if they crashed once a week so long as they were launching once a week in the first place.
I want my 25 flights in 2025 Elon
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>>16944761
Uhm you don't understand sweaty
He's actually optimizing califorbia! Yeah! Starship is going all according to plan and and that's why he's not bothering! There's gonna be a launch in two weeks.
Trust the plan!
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can someone explain the animosity people hold towards sending actual people, instead of a rover, to space? even "the grass" chicken man has fell for this meme.
even if we subscribed to the dogma that space exploration is purely scientific, the rovers we send to mars and the moon shit the bed after like 3 months.
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Sagan gets the blame imo
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Reminder that the only trve astronauts are exochads, LEO scrubs dont count
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Jan 26, 2026
>“Starship launch in 6 weeks”
Feb 21, 2026
>“Starship flies again next month”
Mar 7, 2026
>“Starship V3 first flight in about 4 weeks”
Mar 18, 2026
>“Getting closer to Starship launch! ”
Apr 3, 2026
>“Next flight of Starship and first flight of V3 ship & booster is 4 to 6 weeks away”
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luckily congress didn't impliment it last time, hopefully they'll do it again.
the problem was the between period where NASA starting shutting shit down before it was official. hopefully jared won't do that
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>cool livestream of the actual capsule
>cuts to gay cgi
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>>16944798
Watch this stream anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RwfNBtepa4
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Salt on the Burger:
Eric Berger
It's hard to get too exercised about the ridiculous White House budget for NASA, because Congress will address a lot of its issues. But this will make Isaacman's job a lot more difficult than it need be!
Are Eric and Izzy going steady or something? Burgy always leaping to the defense.
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sped up 10,000%
https://images.nasa.gov/details/art002m1200920011_Apogee_Raise_Burn
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>>16944819
>They don't have an airlock type of hatch.
Neither did the CM, didn't stop them
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Airlock probably not the right term. Docking adaptor and hatch. CM had that. Although, the side hatch on Apollo could open in space. Apollo did some spacewalks using that.
Don't know if the Orion hatch has that capability.
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Hey, I know who to ask! Grok?
Design & Function: The side hatch is engineered for extreme security, tested to operate after withstanding harsh space pressure changes.
Emergency Use: If a quick exit is needed in space, pyrotechnic, or explosive, devices can instantly release the latches for immediate opening.
Opening Mechanisms: While normally opened by ground teams before launch and after splashdown, it has manual mechanisms for crew access to the docking hatch or for emergency procedures.
So, no. Unless you're never coming back.
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i'll bet you still can cut a lot from nasa (and any organization for that matter) with it still being very effective and so on. there's probably a lot of wack expenditures that has built up over the years, idk maybe outreach to african kids so that they too will be interested in space kek
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what's that
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that's what i'm doin right now
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>>16944860
those programs are so fucking minuscule it's not even worth talking about them. keep em.
Like, at my nasa center I volunteer for middle school outreach shit occasionally. I get a charge code to charge like 5 hr to, and if it makes one student want to grow up to be anything than a tiktoc streamer I'd say it's a good use of (your) money.
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takin' care of business
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Can someone explain to me why the FUCK Trump keeps trying to gut NASA's budget? The money they're allocated is already a fucking pittance compared to other agencies, why is he trying to take more of it? It would barely even be a drop in the bucket for whatever he wants it for.
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some of his influential backers are anti-science and pro-climate change, so he's placating them. the good thing is that congress pushes back on most of it, which ends up giving nasa a bigger budget than usual. midas touch.
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>>16944873
Trump is a retarded orange golem who's only concern is Israel
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My liege...
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you can read, right?
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it's 2026, you've had eleven fucking years to get it into your skull that trump is dogshit and his manipulators are incompetent and frankly evil people.
your post "maybe it's things like that that he wants gone, idk" implies you still give him the benefit of the doubt. stop.
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i am not american, i don't follow your space policy and i am asking just so i can get a view on how the future of moon and mars missions will be. nice board u got, where i'm met with aggression and seething just because i'm asking questions...
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sorry. we always assume someone is American on the internet.
the true answer to your question is you can't put a reasonable answer to what they want to do, because they don't know either. it's a shitshow.
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Moon
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ok, but that's something you don't want with regards to space exploration; budgets that change from year to year. you want stability since these projects take decades to come to fruition. i'm guessing they're betting on the commercial space industry to pick up the slack
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again anon, you literally can't assume that they are a rational actor.
they aren't.
there is no grand plan. They are not applying logic.
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summary of the White House NASA budget proposal
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It seems the camera can rotate. They just switched it from looking at Earth to the Moon.
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>>16944921
How do you explain this /sfg/?
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SHE'S COMING RIGHT FOR US GET DOWN
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https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2040126062420799672
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/business/spacex-ipo-grok-elon-musk. html
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I wonder if the fucked already
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>>16944955
how are they halfway to the moon but still got 3 days before they arrive?
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I'm glad we got this one SLS / Orion flight in around da moon before it's all cancelled, I do say. how pleasant.
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if you watch the to-scale sim of the orbit, it really just barely whips by the moon (slowing all the way to it) and then gets slingshotted back down to earth.
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so what you're saying is that starship hls can get to the moon in less than a day if it had a full tank of gas?
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vQPifXr_hRw
it gets to where the moon is before it gets there and basically waits around
orbits can be unintuitive
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Another fifty billion dollars well spent
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since their food is sometimes repurposed MRE dishes, I wonder if they have patriotic sugar cookies onboard.
t. just finished eating a Menu #4
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no joke, i was on the launchpad stream for a few minutes and literally every normie that stumbled in there asked if that was fucking jupiter.
most earthers really should never leave the planet, their absolute fucking retardation will ruin any attempt at space colonization, only agarthan ubermenschen like myself and this board should be part of such efforts.
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https://x.com/NASA/status/2039908597748940872
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>pic
which spacecraft is roomier, orion or dragon?
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The long exposure and high ISO blows it up a bit. Pluto's atmosphere is nowhere near this visible under normal conditions but being on the night side and using sensitive settings makes it really bright in comparison.
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>WNspace
White Nationalist space
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opinions? thoughts?
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I thought Earth's terminator was red but it's actually more cyan.
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>trajectory correction not needed
YOU'RE WELCOME MUTTS
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Hawkins holds a bachelor’s degree in mechanical engineering from Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University (FAMU) and a master’s degree in engineering management from the University of South Florida.
Dear Lord. Can she at least type?
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>Hi, foid with CNN, did i hear something about a leak? is there a scary disaster? and tell me what everyone wants to know about: Selfies!
>Hello, grug with zog media. Normies want to know: what's the point of going to the moon? like, who cares, yknow? Thanks
>Waow did they talk with their families (the real unsung heroes) yet?
>Is the sun gonna blow up the craft? Please, any concern or worry would be great, i need clicks to sell ads. Thanks
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the Libyans, and they want it back
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>>16945085
holy shit
m*sk btfo'd
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you think they'll be savvy enough to get another shot like this when they take a peek at the moon's backside?
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Is there anything more inspiring than spaceflight?
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>>16945096
I think them main problem is that Earth is too crowded. There needs to be more planets, nobody can share this planet anymore with the rise of the internet.
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>>16945103
>Fucking earth gravity still this noticeable?
Yes. Earth gravity has hold of the moon too.
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fun fact: even on the surface of the earth, the gravity from the sun is still stronger, we just don't feel it because we're in orbit.
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if you imagine gravitational fields as whirlpools, the sun's whirlpool is the one in which the earth and moon's much much smaller whirlpools exist
except gravity doesn't require flowing fluid to create the whirlpool so it can be whirlpools all the way down
Every human bean has a whirlpool.
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>The rocking of the camera you're seeing now is the train being run on Christina, right on schedule. The solar panels are not damaged by this movement as they are locked and "parked" in place. all indications is that this is proceeding nominally
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>Artemis 2 - Tracking Telescope - Awesome Launch
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the peanut m&m is nutritionally superior
>fats
has those
>proteins
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has those because it's an m&m
Objectively, in every measurable way, it mogs the competition.
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>Atlas V is on the pad and ready for a late-night launch. Leo Atlas 5 (LA-05) is set to lift off at 1:45 a.m. ET with 29 Amazon Leo satellites on board — our largest Atlas V payload to date, and the first of four back-to-back Atlas missions with ULA.
SFN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b01rQjEFl4
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T-6:00:00
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Depends on your analytical frame. Ideologically NASA scientists are outspoken and prominent liberals and promote an opposing viewpoint at the governing viewpoint's expense
Scientifically NASA duplicates the efforts of several agencies including NOAA, USGS, and NSF, funding basic astronomy, astrophysics, astrobiology, planetary geology and meteorological research with zero practical implication (this was not NACA or NASA's original mandate). Some of this science is believed to provide evidence that counters powerful business interests with large investments in high-polluting industries
Politically NASA employs people in states that are considered safe for the opposing party and thus become targets for the other party specifically via depriving them of a tax base and potential donors
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>Depends on your analytical frame. Ideologically NASA scientists are outspoken and prominent liberals and promote an opposing viewpoint at the governing viewpoint's expense
Reality does have a liberal bias.
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>>16944600
Sorry to say, but the original will never be beaten
>Recognisable landmass in centre of the frame
>Clouds obscuring recognisable areas
>Most of it is just ocean anyway
>Correct orientation (yes I know they rotated it afterwards)
>Colors are a little dull, not vibrant
The atmosphere is cool though
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>>16945228
Trump cares about space insofar that it makes America, and himself by association, look good. It's a superficial boomer space race mentality. I would bet most of /sfg/ is more closely aligned with that thinking than the "cancel the exploration programs completely give me 1000 more climate change satellites" thinking that tends to be preached by Trump's political opposition. I'm sure a nuSpace remnant still exists that would enjoy the shuttering of NASA completely.
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>>16945214
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/budget_fy2027.pd f
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Vollif losgelost
von der Erde
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vollig schwerelos
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I made this one >>16944825
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>>16945271
wait a sec
Were the beans go?
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>>16945269
weve seen this before with ISS.
Expect virtually zero organic commercial activity, but the fact there is a base will create government demand for cargo and person transport to the base. I'm incredibly skeptical that any country will have a permenantly manned lunar base in the same vain as ISS within this century, becuase the cost will be an order of magnitude more than the ISS.
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>>16945283
>The moon belongs to America
thats right, we saw it first
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>Donald, listen to me very carefully. Martians exist. Those martians are developing nuclear weapons. They want to use those nuclear weapons to destroy the United States and Israel. Do you hear me, Donald?
>>16945271
not enough beef jerky for my liking
don't be turning my space program into a graincel program
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Well yeah best case scenario there is some sort of cost sharing scheme between NASA and the Artemis accord agecies like JAXA and ESA, meanwhile Chyna will be doing the same with Russia, Iran and possibly North Korea.
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Iran is currently being forcibly removed from China's sphere. North Korea is still allied to China, but China doesn't like having to acknowledge that they exist. China will never do anything substantive with Russia because Russia is in a position to insist on being treated as a peer, and that's the one thing Beijing hates more than having to do a photo op with the Kims. When China goes to the Moon, they are going alone. The only people they'll consider taking along for a ride are respectful nobodies like Pakistan.
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Jules Verne described a lunar fly by in 1865. His crew intend to land but get deflected by a 2nd moon and have to swing by
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>A number of physiological sensors were used to monitor the vital signs (electrocardiogram, respiration, and body temperature) of Ham. A commercial rectal thermistor probe was used instead of the probe used on the human Mercury astronauts. The probe was inserted 8 inches deep into Ham's rectum.
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I recommend this documentary. Wernher narrates the whole thing, and sprinkles in Jules Verne through out it. It's great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUwkamAS_mA
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>Numerous missions planned for the next decade are likely to target a handful of smal sites of interest on the Moon's surface, creating risks of crowding and interference at these locations. The Moon presents finite and scarce areas with rare topography or concentrations of resources of special value. Locations of interest to science, notably for astronomy, include the Peaks of Eternal Light, the coldest of the cold traps and smooth areas on the far side. Regions richest in physical resources could also be uniquely suited to settlement and commerce. Such sites of interest are both few and small. Typically, there are fewer than ten key sites of each type, each site spanning a few kilometres across.
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>>Donald, listen to me very carefully. Martians exist. Those martians are developing nuclear weapons. They want to use those nuclear weapons to destroy the United States and Israel. Do you hear me, Donald?
Someone tell him there's oil on Mars. We need to take it.
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>>16944603
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>>16944725
No, that anon is correct. You are dumb. You could have used your deductive reasoning skills to figure out what continent you were staring at.
>hmmm, Australia doesn't quite look like that, maybe it's something else?
>hmmm, what other continent has a large desert area?
>hmmm, I don't recognize this landmass shape, perhaps I should flip it around and see if it becomes more recognizable?
You should stare at a globe more often, and ingrain those shapes into your memory.
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>So, Isaacman is a liar and bullshitter. Good luck, NASA. Best wishes USA, it's been nice knowing you.
ars commenters have to be rageaholic trolls
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I have known Starship would be months away so I have nothing to SPEHS about...
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Hilarious the clash in design philosophy. Orion is designed in the vain of Apollo and the lessons of Shittle, it's so safe it's basically safer than driving to work in latin america.
Meanwhile you've got the Saarship which is a gigantic coffin guaranteed to kill the crew (excitement guaranteed!)
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Why delude ourselves with these Starship renders at this point when we all know Blue Origin will be doing Artemis 4, meanwhile Musk will be doing scam shit with his LEO AI data centers, anything to pump the stok price ofhis PUBLICALLY TRADED TELECOM COMPANY.
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>Erm yeah Orion is a little chilly in here!
Butch and Suni
>Yes hello, if anyone can hear this, our Shitliner life support is buck broken, and in addition to trying to kill us from the outside with busted thrusters and overheating doghouses; we are literally wearing every single piece of clothing we brought up and it is colder than an actual refrigerator in here
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>>16945417
This is way too off topic. A huge majority of potential births in the western world are lost to abortion and IVF failures. God is going to strike us down like Sodom and Gomorrah. Maybe we are due for a comet strike after all
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>le I'm spiritual but not religious
lmao
so you're rational, but not educated
everyone is spiritual by nature, they are also physical
if you want to develop physically do you just walk into a gym and start randomly using exercise machines in ways that are dangerous, or do you ask a trainer for advice
spiritual growth happens in a similar way
>people like me are just built different
snowflakes are unique
*tips fedora*
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For here
Am I sitting in a tin can
Far above the world
Planet Earth is blue
And there's nothing I can do
Though I'm past one hundred thousand miles
I'm feeling very still
And I think my spaceship knows which way to go
Tell my wife I love her very much she knows
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>so you're rational, but not educated
Nah regurgitating childhood programming without having delved into a subject is not rational. Dismiss those who say religion is a very specific thing. Heed those who say everything is ritualistic/sacramental and therefore everything is religious. The academics in a university’s religious studies department seldom sound like genx wine aunts when they speak about religion, regardless of their personal affiliations.
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The only way to achieve anything beyond satellites in LEO is to have a national space policy with a governing body with allocated resources that can have a long term plan going into it knowing that there is not going to be any short term gain. Privatized space cannot do this. You want to have large scale resource extraction and refinement from the moon being hurled back to Earth via mass drivers to construct space based manufacturing at scale and beyond? You need a government space program. Corporations fill in the gaps, they don't make the entire project.
Also, maglev launch from a fucking mountain when?
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>>16945548
Controversial take. Celestial bodies will never be for long term colonization and will only serve industrial purposes. If you want to bootstrap your way to becoming a space faring civilization, you do this:
>Go to the moon to learn how not to die and begin resource extraction and establishing launch facilities
>Be able to "cheaply" make shit around Earth
>Manufacturing of things e.g. fiber optics, semiconductors, super alloys, space based solar power, etc
>Space to Earth economy grows to the point where you start to need additional assets to support those industries forming new industries
>Eventually grows enough that you end up with a pure space to space economy that continues to grow
>You are now in big boy cylinders and wheels territory
>Even more industry and populations grow as a result of this
>Living on the moon, mars, or any other area that isn't Earth isn't doable long term due to gravity
>Instead start to build islands in space
>Islands become usable land that grow to have massive populations...Populations that can be taxed
>A lot of expensive shit now exists in space requiring protection, defensive systems are made, systems designed to defeat defensive systems are made, offensive systems are made to defeat defensive defeating systems, offensive systems are made to defeat offensive systems - presto, space navy's now exist
Unironically somebody could probably write a white paper talking about how things like O'Neill cylinders and the like end up having more benefit and less cost in the long run compared to attempting to create new cities with astronomical lot prices.
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>extract resources from dead floating rocks into space
>Assemble resources into living space
>Earth 2.0's ranging from the OG design of 8x32km cylinders to dozens-hundreds of kilometers in diameter and thousands of kilometers in length
Humans are not only fragile, but are destructive and violent as well. You can't live on Mars because it's too hostile. You can't live in tiny little metal cans because they're too fragile. This things though, you could detonate thermonuclear bombs on them and still be fine. That's what you need in order for humans to colonize it.
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>tfw the only real place humanity can colonize would be an Earth 2.0
>tfw Earth 2.0's are dozens of lightyears away at best
>tfw interstellar colonization isn't even a pipe dream with how insanely difficult it is
>tfw even with obscure ideas to get FTL to work you would still require energy levels requiring the size of entire gas giants converted into pure energy
>tfw anything short of that is ultimately futile
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GO FATLAS GO CENTAUR
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I wish I could see a launch.
Best I've seen is Endeavour on the shuttle carrier flying basically over my house (at low altitude as well), and saarliner reentering because white sands is only about 50mi away
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I saw the ISS fly over my house before and it was really cool. Its a very bright dot that flies over the sky pretty quickly, and I sperged out going "waw there are people up there"
You should try to spot it some evening, its fairly frequent and easy to do anywhere.
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>repost cause i didn't realize a new thread was made
i told my parents about this and my dad said he thought they were just sending an empty capsule to the moon and my mom thought it was all an april fools joke. the normies don't even know we are going back to the moon
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>Nobody will really process it until boots are on the lunar surface again.
Boots on the ground and flags in the dirt will get the normies screaming USA USA USA again
seriously all it takes is one live stream to get caught up in the social media algorithms and boom people care again
unfortunately that will also mean people saying it's a waste of time to do this again, so it's a double edged sword
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Spaceflight is kind of a long-term thing. You get a big event (probe landing, JWST photos, manned launch), and then a long period where nothing happens (people actually working in the background) and people forget about it until it fires up again. People don't have the attention spans nor give a shit about long term things.
It should be treated like seasons of a TV show, or like football
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>It should be treated like seasons of a TV show, or like football
this is why I hate that I'm fixated on this hobby because all the normals get to watch high profile kino when it hits the news and meanwhile I'm over here on /sfg/ daily for six years straight with nothing but blue balls
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>>16945557
Cope and seethe we will explore and inhabit every rock God planted in this universe
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>>16945601
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the ship lands, embryos are grown in artificial wombs, once children are born robots take care of them
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> Imagine how cool it was to see the Moon landing without having any idea how it will look like.
There had already been loads of Surveyor probes by then, dingus. No one paying attention was surprised by the lunar surface.
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>No one paying attention was surprised by the lunar surface.
Wasn’t the point that nobody but enthusiasts pay attention, and that even the 21st century cattle who don’t pay attention are seeing(in memes and AI slop mostly tbf) what only the dedicated enthusiasts saw in nerdy periodicals back then?
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>>16945745
Only the dedicated enthusiasts saw in nerdy periodicals back then
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this nigga gosling is overcast to shit. why do hollyjews do this? He doesn't even look anything like Armstrong. They cast this guy for every male protagonist who goes through sadness or lonliness at some point. I'm surprised they didn't cast the rock as Buzz.
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Starship required an extra decade of development when Musk forced them to start throwing together rockets. It was literally impossible for the vehicle to work while using V1 or V2 designs, and let's be honest V3 will definitely not be the moon rocket either, so why even launch all those flights? The whole thing was probably a scam by Musk to raise venture capital by projecting the illusion that they had made more progress than they really had done.
With modern computer simulations 99% of the work can be completed before you do a single launch, with that 1% being filled with things which are poorly understood like plasma dynamics, and the unknowns of what could happen when all the parts are integrated. Development would have looked slower but been faster, and at a lower cost.
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The Saturn V is so freaking sexy, oof.
If Artemis III is now going to be some fuckass LEO mission, wasting most of the heavy-lift capability of SLS (not to mention wasting a pretty-much-full ICPS) then they should have justification for the added mass of painting SLS white and giving it a Saturn V livery
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the only frustrating part would be that you can't easily experience that silence because you need a bunch of equipment running at all times to stay alive. but you probably get so used to that stuff you dont hear it anymore.
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>>16945174
>TFW
why is all normalfag speech just downstream of chanspeak? do normalnigs not have a single original bone in their bodies?
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>>16945206
will the jet aircraft take flight before the biplane?
the answer is it doesn't matter, SLS could fly 4 more times before starship is operational and it still wouldn't matter, starship is the future, SLS is not.
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well no, ziggers absolutely hate musk because he cucked them out of roscosmos' free money cheat and also recently made starlink pretty much impossible for russians to use, resulting in a bunch of lost ground for them because their own comms equipment is ass and they don't have an equivalent constellation nor will they ever.
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>>16945376
>i-it's a gigantic coffin because i say so
>please ignore all the oldspace designs that killed and maimed astronauts while spacex has never done so even once in it's entire history.
>>16945385
>people who care about the actual 21st century rocket are delusional because they don't stop to talk about musk every two seconds.
SLS is the horse, starship is the car, people will keep laughing at it just like they did falcon 9 until suddenly they'll all backpedal and pretend they always believed in it from the start.
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>>16945909
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>le
no, not le, that's just true, organized cultlike religion has no monopoly on thinking beyond our baser instincts
>b-being religious is the same as being educated
no, it just means you've been indoctrinated.
>or do you ask a trainer for advice
if you're very fragile and need someone else to tell you what to think, sure.
>*tips fedora*
that is indeed the stereotype that's been strawmanned onto every man who is not servile and feminine and doesn't get peer-pressured into some organized belief system.
nihilistic and aimless reddit atheists like that absolutely do exist, and the reason god-fearing folk make fun of them so much and hyperfocus on them as the only version of atheism that exists, is because they know they're really weakminded themselves and would fall to all the same vices if they didn't have religion cushioning them into a very safe and cuddly reality where all the answers are clear and there's no uncertainty.
most non-believers however, simply have a superior way of looking at the world, they don't have a chain on them that any sociopathic charmer can use to tug on them, like religious people do. (this includes non-theistic religions like communism and liberalism, who i make no distinction between because they function the exact same way)
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their main communication apparatus was based around a western company that could be turned off for them at any time
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getting KSP back up to nearly 10K concurrent players might actually be the most profound and important thing that this launch has done for the future of spaceflight, of this new batch of kids and teenagers that just got introduced to this because of this launch and the people who covered it, at least some of them are bound to become succesful spaceflight engineers in the future. KSP is integral to building future talent for spaceflight.
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by wasting two decades, billions of dollars, not having the capabilities necessary for the program it's meant to be a centerpiece of, and generally being a technological dead end less advanced than even the shuttle.
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out of desperation, you use what you got, their alternative was shitty, easily traceable and easily jammable old russian comms or bafang radio's, and i guess they just got so complacent with a solution that was working for them that they never thought to start developing a backup in case elon finally got around to cutting them off.
but enough about that, when is orion gonna pass through the van allen belts? i want to see the astronauts skin melt and slough off live.
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>spacex has never done so even once in it's entire history
Falcon/Dragon is not Starship. Falcon and Dragon were designed with plenty of help in R&D from NASA and followed all the best practices learnt by NASA. As a result Falcon and Dragon worked first try and proved to be incredibly reliable.
Saarship meanwhile has a design which is flat out insane for the task of returning Americans to the moon before China. Sure the idea of using cryogenics for deep spacce missions is good in principal because we need to at some point, but this makes the mission incredibly and unecessarily risky. Thats beside the other issues with Saarship. I guarantee it will fail the HLS demo, if they ever get that far. Engines will fail to relight after days on the moon, if it doesnt tip over on landing.
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>>16945945
>falcon/dragon is not starship
not an argument, starship has done a bunch of risky testing with hardware, NASA does risky testing with humans.
>ehrm chud it was actually NASA that made falcon 9 work
unironically parroting r/antiwork talking points about spacex from 2022 is not helping your argument.
>i-it's insane
i think you mean innovative, SLS is the horse, starship is the car.
>but muh cryogenic propellants
cryogenic boiloff is not going to matter if some issue pops up that delays the use of those cryogenics, fuel and water supply would run out before that starts becoming a problem, and it's literally a non-issue before the crew transfers to starship and they are actually committed to TLI because fueling of the ship will happen without crew on board.
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I'm not talking about boiloff, that can be mitigated at the cost of dry mass. Turbopump rocket engines are complex so a lot can go wrong after many days standing on the south pole of the moon with the extreme thermal regime of sun beaming on one side of the ship and the other half cast in absolute shadow.
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Crazy how WvB went on a generational run over the course of only like 8 short years and did an autistic speedrun any% getting man to suborbit all the way to orbital rendezvous, docking, and landing on the Moon. And literally everything we’ve been doing since then has just been stuff he figured out and proved and successfully tried
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>>16945956
Having a human in the photo always makes them feel more special.
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>>16945509
Capcom is Jenni Gibbons. Backup for Hansen. Make of that what you will.
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>>16945978
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>>16945988
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>>16945681
In the US at least anything more interesting than sugar fuel is regulated and nominally requires recognition by the Tripoli Association to verify that you understand this might blow you up or threaten others
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Thats leverage. Now that Musk is using this, it means X bank or Xpay might also get huge banking deals that make it compete against the world
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why aren't they using full radio protocol?
you know, starting every message with callsigns, ending messages with "over", repeating everything for confirmation etc.
instead they're pretty much acting like they're speaking on the phone and letting silence and context indicate end of message
seems pretty lax
is it because they're literally the only two participants in the frequency?
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capcom is the *only* person who can talk to the astronauts (well, besides like private medical conferences with the flight surgeon once a day). It's been this way since Gemini when they didn't have different ground stations along the orbit track.
Quindar tones are the *beeps* at the beginning of a transmission. You can hear them faintly right now, esp. from capcom.
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what does integrity mean? and who do they speak to in that case?
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>>16946061
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>also, they *do* do "Integrity, Houston, ______" occasionally.
yeah, only at the beginning of the convo
>>16946047
>Quindar tones are the *beeps* at the beginning of a transmission. You can hear them faintly right now, esp. from capcom.
does integrity even use quindar tones? according to wikipedia, only mission control needed them for technical reasons, although these days they're entirely cosmetic
wikipedia also mentions that unlike normal radio, astronauts and mission control use two separate frequencies, so they can actually talk simultaneously
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>>16946006
That's nice. Hey, wasn't that Musk guy laser focused on getting a million people by 2030 to save our species? Whatever happened to that.
NB4 you go to Mars, you must build 100,000 Starships, one million Starlinks, one million space AI servers, start a bank, and dig a sewer taxi tunnel at a Florida theme park.
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not sure, I've only been hearing quindars from Houston.
there were some odd talk-over issues on apollo... I recall one of the LM's liftoff, the CM pilot played a song with a tape recorder and it stood on the ascent discussion lol
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>>16945924
this is factual information! It just is okay!
So, may we see your factual information? Part count SLS v Starslip and we'll see which is larger. You do have that information, right? You wouldn't just be doing your "my boyfriend Elon'" thing again. You do have those facts?
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not even the toilet compares, the toilet at least is a spaceflight problem
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Modern tech sucks ass so fucking much, it really is depressing. I wish we had a trustworthy hardware/software computing company. Musk jokes about making x-phones but he has also said he really doesn't want to do it
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imagine in the future when spaceflight is as natural as getting in your car and you gotta call customer support back on earth to fix your toilet and rajeesh from india answers. "saar i no help, no support beyond asteroid belt saar warranty void saar please do the needful"
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Not possible for Windows. Apple is way better about it, but they are also full of these delusional california techbros who don't understand usable UI or pragmatic features. They are obsessed with minimalism and somehow everything they code just gets worse (like apple keyboards no longer working, less features than there used to be across their suite of apps, stupid illegible 'liquid glass' user interface, etc).
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Nah fuck all this "erm multiple fuels is hard" shit. I used to think it was difficult to swap rocket parts, and I used to similarly think it as difficult to upgrade ground infrastructure to support new fuel types. This, however, is an oldspace LIE fueled by faggot boomers who have no faith of the heart and consider it difficult.
SpaceX has launched payloads in F9 that require methalox fueling and have rapidly upgraded their launch infrastructure to support it.
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it's especially egregious when you consider how much things have regressed
windows 98 legitimately had better interface than windows 10
I mean things like buttons, windows, menus, drop-downs
and don't even get me started on scrollbars
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'pon my word, i'd smite thee with utmost zealousness and eject thine mortal shell out of this here space-craft if it weren't 'gainst regulations and basic human dignity! prithee, you devil, count your lucky stars that i am a most respected gentleman in space-faring circles.... or else i would make you non-ambulatory!
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Imagine explaining to NHI's how we do things.
>So then, we have to turn on our tablet devices and log-into outlook, errm, uh,,, my password is ILoveDaenerysFatAss234, and then complete the 2-fa authentication
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yeah but how often do other nationalities get to tag along? how many astronauts does europe have for example?
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>there was a time recently when it was just american and russian
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>>16946136
it's mostly americans and russian, with usually one or two other nationality per expedition
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this is only crew, it excludes short term visitors apparently
I took it from there, so idk how accurate it is (it's not up to date for one)
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>everything is ritualistic/sacramental
If everything is sacred, then nothing is.
You need to have both the sacred and profane for either concept to be coherent.
>>16945916
Very not fragile people became fragile because they experienced a catastrophic injury by training using incorrect form.
Something having a guide would have prevented.
You think you're superior, but really you're just as vulnerable to manipulation as any religious person. You're just too blind to see that.
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I'm a traveler, but refuse to use a map.
I'm hungry, but recipes are just a way to control how I eat.
I'm want into spaceflight, but I don't think organized procedures and protocols are important to a successful mission.
You can just do things however you like personally and everything will just work out, you know?
Everything is fine.
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better than Australia and New Zealand at least
poor cunts stood no chance down there
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>If everything is sacred, then nothing is.
Yes, that's my point. You can't secularize everything and hope religion remains far away. People will form their own rituals out of things that were previously non-ritualistic and previously disconnected from the religious impulse. Secular systems don't work because you can't prohibit something as inoffensive and subjective as superstition without being illiberal, but the banning of commonly known religions can be prohibited. Within the vacuum of that prohibition, and on a long enough time scale, superstition flourishes into new religion. Ban the sacred and the cattle will form a new religion out of the profane.
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>I'm want into spaceflight, but I don't think organized procedures and protocols are important to a successful mission.
Join the Somali space agency. Africa will set you free.
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Your point indicates that your argument is self defeating, and that you aren't understanding these concepts adequately.
The distinction between sacred and profane is as important as the distinction between edible and inedible, or being lost and found, clean and unclean.
People sometimes create cargo cults when they come across something they do not understand.
This does not mean the objects of their fascination suddenly become sacred in and of themselves.
Superstition isn't the root of religion.
The innate spiritual need you already identified is. Religion satisfies this need, just like physical training regimens serve to develop the body and cartography helps ships navigate.
Do you have a specific diet you hold yourself to, or do you eat pencil shavings and paper clips?
It's really quite similar.
If you make a god for yourself out of something that is not truly divine, you're going to end up with a kind of indigestion.
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>>16946218
depends on whether or not we spend six gorillion dollars invading iran
the iraq war killed the constellation program 20 years ago, and iran can just as easily kill artemis
the Vietnam war also killed Apollo btw, but /sfg/ isn't ready for that
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too bad that isn't the norm
also I'm not a photographer, but isn't startup a frequent problem with modern cameras?
I recall some review specifically mentioning some model or other making worse quality photos, but still having an edge because it can be used almost immediately
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>>16946236
I think there already is a base. Tranquility base.
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the base is right here >>16946218
its not really a base at all, just a bunch of probes and a lunar RV. we'll see again in 20-30 years.
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5 years ago starship was flight testing aiming to reach orbit that year
today starship is flight testing aiming to reach orbit this year
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>commercial aint going away
Government agencies create the demand for commercial. If those government agencies are deprived of funding by war or some other kind of financial crisis, then commercial shrinks as well.
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People with actual backgrounds in science, medicine, etc. aren't going to spend their time posting on an anonymous imageboard filled with schizos, a lot of that shit is too boring or complicated for the average cumbrain or /pol/tard anyways, you can't explain grad-level shit to people who've rotted their brains and lost 30 IQ points to porn addiction and retarded conspiracy theories.
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>>16946243
outer space treaty prevented states from making claim to territory beyond the earth, but anon is wrong because the OST was only signed as a saving face treaty for both factions who had realised that there was zero economic or military reason to have a presence on the Moon or other planets.
China wants to go to the moon purely as the final symbolic step on the long march to end the century of humiliation and become the world's 2nd superpower, America decided to return as a party trick and to prove they can still do it in the context of China also trying to. Everything else is a meme. There is zero economic prospect to outer space objects at the present time, so the outer space treaty had no effect on the end of manned flight beyond LEO.
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Dare I say, you don't need muh economic reasons to go to the moon if you don't spend 500 quadrillion dollars dropping napalm on rice fields. War makes everyone an annoying retard chanting about Whitey on the Moon.
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America just can't really do anything unless someone else is going to beat us to it. As soon as it was obvious that the ussr was giving up on the moon then all of a sudden this talk of "cooperation" became popular
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>>16946248
starlink has given spacex good revenue independent from govt. contracts so spacex can still do shit after nasa's budget shrink.
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>Iran done bombed my Israel
>(but goys is on the Moon)
>Her blood and bones began to smell.
>(and goys is on the Moon)
>I can't pay no doctor bill.
>(but goys is on the Moon)
>Ten years from now I'll be fighting still.
>(while goys is on the Moon)
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This man was singlehandedly responsible for Americans landing on the Moon. He staked the Soviet Union's prestiege on socialist futurism and pioneering in space. The Soviet Union was blazing ahead for his entire rule and gave America the kick up the ass to go to the moon because everything easier had already been done. After he was deposed it wasnt long until the Soviets quit when the going got tough with N1.
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>>16946280
Do you see him fucking Beria in the ass?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDOIzK8NuoU
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I've got hundreds more anon, if you want more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHYPqf7DgzQ&list=PLQZyI6xfln8BxyYVkVKI 3Pe3N4eFV13y9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bub4iylevTE
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It's a pretty detailed and grounded story about a guy going trough astronaut training and working on a moon base.
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I'm talking less about appealing to flat earthers (who will never believe it no matter what) and more about how it would look on TV to normgroids. Remember most normies give so little thought to spaceflight that they assume StarWars artificial gravity is probably real.
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These people are dumb. Having the astronauts floating upside down while answering questions would be the coolest thing ever,
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In the NASA press conference today (4-5 hours ago) the lunar scientist lady gave long 5 minute responses to all the people asking those questions
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yeah I heard her say they're going to maximize the science fifty times and spoke about lunar targets and blah blah blah. every answer she gave was a master class in obfuscation. she even seemed to be annoyed by people asking her to clarify. so basically this is not science. There is no hypothesis or test or anything. just take some bad pictures so we can tell people "we did le freaking science!!"
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Here nigger, you could have at least tried to put in some effort to find the answers to your questions.
https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/artemis-ii-science/
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such as taking bad pictures? the lady could just admit that's what she was blabbering on about. my guess is she figured fancy language would obscure the fact that she should be fired for wasting the astronauts' time, as well as our own.
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I watched the conference, and looks like I am vindicated. there is zero lunar science that adds any value to the corpus on this flight. woman and her team should be fired
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For the entire history of spaceflight there has been zero scientific reason to send humans to space aside from specifically testing what the effects of spaceflight are on humans. It's basically the same as sending a chimp to space to see if it will die or not.
Even when computers were extremely primitive the extreme cost of sending humans still wasnt worth it. All the science done on Apollo could have been done by an array of unmanned landers at a fraction of the cost. With the leaps in computer technology since then it is laughable to think that there is anything humans could possibly do for muh science apart from being the subjects themselves. Artemis is not about gathering science at all, it is about repeating the spectacle of humans on the moon for its own sake. Just this time the veil of science is more flimsy than before because anything Artemis astronauts will ever do on the moon for tens of billions of dollars could very easily have been done for a tiny fraction the cost with an unmanned probe.
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So, I'm answering the question that Artemis has zero scientific basis.
I want humans to go to other worlds, but to larp that they are going to conduct science experiments is shaky ground because it's a lie. People will correctly call you out on your bullshit which is what happened under Obamna .
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No worries, anon! I've got you covered!
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Straya upside down (right side up, innit?)
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salties in the water near the pointy bit keep an eye out mate
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Surely all of us here have photographed the moon before, right? Post your moonpics
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want to feel rage? https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moon-photos-a i-galaxy-s21-s23-ultra
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My phone is a Samsung, I haven't take photos of the Moon because of this.
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someone should do a 50,000x sped up timelapse of it, I wonder how it grows over time. once we get the raw video I'd imagine you could use fancy video editing software to identify specific pixels that stop changing after X frame
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yeah nothing is as enraging as anons posting theverge links
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By definition, being a freaky autist who doesn’t feel an innate, strong physical fear of being ousted from an in-group already makes me far more resistant to manipulation, so no.
Yes i realize that life is hard and it can mindbreak tough people, but i don’t see how using a mental crutch like a strong dogmatic political ideology/religion is a superior option.
Again, i’m sure it is for people who know they are very weak, and wouldn’t be able to build/keep their morals without someone lording (heh) over them. But i still don’t see that as an ideal situation.
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That’s a nice strawman i guess, not sure what it’s going to accomplish.
Non-theists use maps that they built themselves, along with guidance from their parents, they still have them, they just don’t include all the indoctrination and easy answers you need to not go crazy. You’re falling back on the same mistake of pretending everyone who’s not religious is a hedonistic nihilist like you think you would be.
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the news videos about mom and pop card game shops that are fined into shuttering by the language police for not having French labeling for everything makes me want to volunteer for the Canadian invasion force unironically
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>suddenly become sacred in and of themselves
Yeah, they do, sanctity is not a concept unique to your religion, i could make my own OC religion right now it could have it’s own ritualistic sacred verses, fake events, and objects.
>superstition isn’t the root of religion
Is it is a less structured version of it, and has often been a precursor in history.
Both are ultimately borne from humanity’s fear of the dark. The unknowns of future, past and present, physical and metaphysical, are mankind’s oldest fears for a species built on intelligence to survive, we have evolved a brain that is so scared of not knowing things that it will force an illogical explanation into place just to remove the unknowns and make things less scary.
This is the difference between you and me, you are scared of the dark, and i’m not. I still have a way of life, i still have a modus operandi, i just don’t pretend to myself that the difficult questions are answered because it would be less scary that way and i don’t know how to find direction in life without it, that’s you.
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what the hell are you two babbling about?
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I said no foreigners.
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>victor so disgusted by canadians that decided to stay behind the camera the whole time
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Bro, it’s australia upside down.
Can people just not rotate shaped and colors in their heads?
i experienced this recently with a new co-worker of mine, we work in the woods and she was reading a map while i was driving and she could only read the map and make sense of it when the direction of the nose of our vehicle was aligned with the top of the map, if we were going “downwards” or “sideways” to the perspective on the map she could simply not correlate the roads she was seeing with the roads on the map. Had to keep stopping to read the map myself because her directions were worthless. Why can some people do this while others can’t?
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>>16946532
I don't spend all day looking at Australia from odd angles.
I have excellent internal rotation. Just didn't recognize it at all. here, quiz time:
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I have to admit that while I definitely can visualise mentally and do stuff like rotating a map, I don't find it the easiest thing to do. I tend to have to expend some effort to do it properly.
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Explains why most normgroids are so amazed by the latest AI’s “accuracy”
Even when ever object in the scene are not visually blurry and well defined, the sequence and placement of objects and people as well as the physics and speed of movement continues to be obvious bullshit, it’s been depressing watching me slowly become the only person in my friends group who can recognize AIslop at a glance.
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Neither do i, but i have memorized australia as a shape from the few times i’ve seen it, and by dedictive reasoning i immediately figured that a small isolated continent with a red desert covering most of it must be what i’m looking for, i rotate the shape into place in my head until it fits, and presto, it’s australia. What makes you think i need to look at maps all the time to remember what australia looks like?
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You think that's cool? Check THIS out
>image limit
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canada, gulf of st lawrence, newfoundland etc. i recognised it immediately but this >>16946438
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