>>16946603
Previous >>16944583

put the stream in the OP!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3kR2KK8TEs

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Can someone tell me why leftists are obsessed with this "coming together" shit? Is it just a dogwhistle for "I hate white people" without outright saying it because deep-down they know white people are the ones responsible for such achievements?

how will you react when the alien mothership comes and abducts the whole crew when they go to the dark side of the moon?

>>16946613
because they're communists

>>16946613
>the white hand of Saruman

>>16946613
3 posts in and you have to post some /pol/-lite drivel? come on man, we're here to watch Artemis 2. stop.

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>>16946614

>>16946613
It's an anti-exceptionalism viewpoint, where every great achievement (only Western ones, mind you) is transformed into a global one. The purpose is to diminish national pride in our achievements.

>>16946614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNul2QETPE

>>16946614
>oh fuck, Trump is going to pull out the black budget weapons for this shit

>>16946613
You goddamn better believe it's going to be the Stars and Stripes up there.

>>16946629
now you know why starman is up there

>>16946626
>ATTENTION INTERLOPER

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pic related for the guys in the last thread who said Vietnam didn't kill Apollo
>budget immediately tanks after the escalation in 1965
Money is to be spent, and when it's not spent on space I am disgusted. Fuck a penny for nasa. I demand a dime.

>>16946618
You should've seen this place back when demonrats were trying to ban Elon from building starbase and launching starship because of some endangered species of Mexican jumping worm

https://youtu.be/dPCpGSjNxHo?si=UVp-EuK1JmKfRWhx

>>16946637
we're going to have to piss on the moon if they don't get that damned toiled fixed

>>16946636
(you can blame the republicans for that drop-off btw, even though some people here will screech about it not being the case)

>>16946642
why are you posting x garbage in my toilet-watching general? seriously.

>>16946642
it's not that serious

>>16946642
>Why aren't we neutering anyone below 110 IQ?
because we're actively subsidizing their fertility through all dat money fo dem programs

>>16946642
Dey not gettin a good lunch

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Hello, /sfg/. shame we have to cut the quality of these 8mb images down

>>16946636
>most ambition plan so far
>NASA budget only goes down
It's good to know that moon bases are only a fantasy.

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is this true? if so, why all this business about 'we're going to the Moon to go to Mars'?

>>16946652
It is true. What this guy doesn't mention is, since there is no atmosphere, you can build infrastructure to launch stuff from the moon without using any fuel at all.

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>>16946652
I'm sure there is a better map than this one but yeah, kinda?

>>16946648
make a thread on /hr/

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>>16946652
Some people are of the opinion that we should be as close as possible to Earth, while learning to live on another celestial body. Mars is months away, while The Moon is hours away. It makes sense, but I think it's gay as fuck. Those people have no balls.

>>16946656
Closed loop life support is a huge unsolved problem. You can iterate on the system on the moon without putting people's lives in imminent danger.

>>16946652
Yes which is why Starship is better for Mars. You need almost the same amount of refuels, but also you don't need to have separate vehicle for landing.
The time requirement going to Mars is the biggest roadblock.

>>16946659
Bonus points for the moon: the lack of atmosphere means you can use magnetic accelerators to send stuff to orbit.

>>16946659
time shmime. just bring a few books. it'll go by in a breeze.
Spaniards and Dutch colonized the world in tiny boats that took months to get anywhere, and half of them died in the process.
we're just too babied nowadays.

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>>16946654
not sure if better here it is another

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just take the subway

>>16946662
tfw no Eris rover.

Why is Venus requirement so massive?

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>>16946636
NASA should get 5% which would be around $300 billion. Fuck moonbase Alpha shenanigans. O'Neill cylinders by 2100 should be the goal.

>>16946666
I too want to know. plane change perhaps?

>>16946661
trvthnvke

>>16946636
The combination of the budget for the space race against the commies, mixed with the cost of the Vietnam war against communism, bankrupted the U.S. so Nixon decided to go off the Gold standard that backed our currency up with, and just use FIAT and print as much as we wanted into hyper inflation.

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>>16946671
I don't see the big deal, let's just go back on the gold standard then

>>16946650
moon base money was spent in desert storm sowwwyyyyyyyy :)

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>>16946652
This is why the program will fail. There will never be any serious attempt at Martian colonization until after we already have a multi-trillion dollar space to space industry set up in cislunar space. Even then, humans cannot survive through multiple generations with that much of a gravity difference. So even if we do end up going to Mars, it'll be to plunder the planet for immediate resource to construct space colony's around it.

Going to the moon should be about learning how not to die in space and developing industry to set up the cislunar economy. Especially in regards to manufacturing, energy production (space to Earth first, then space to space) along with setting up the logistics infrastructure to support all of the operations. The goal should be to have enough industry to where it is cheaper to extract, refine, build and launch shit into space off of the moon than it would be from off of Earth. That's when you're able to start building the cool shit.

At that point, things like O'Neill cylinders become the goal because unlike all other empires throughout history who had to conquer the land. You now build it in order to increase the overall population for more industrial/economic output and to increase the tax base so that you can build more. With the levers of power being the energy generation and launch capabilities... But that's for future generations to fight over. First things first, you gotta actually lay the groundwork to get to that point in the first place. All of that trumps going to Mars just to plant a fucking flag that would be nothing more than a vanity project like Apollo.

Space should be reserved for pro natalists only. I want my space empire to E X P A N D.

>>16946666
>>16946668
atmosphere drag losses on ascent. Earth and Titan also have this: delta-V to asend to orbit higher than the orbital velicity by an amount related to the density.

>>16946677
ohhhhh that's for ascent too. I see.

>>16945344
We put the chalkboard vertically, not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

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>>16946672
At the time, the president of France, Charles DeGaul, had found out that the United States started to print more currency than we had gold/silver to back it up with. (Roughly 1969-1970 ish I think)

After World War Two there was a world meeting of world leaders called "Breton Woods" (name of the hotel in the U.S.).
At this meeting it was decided that they would all use the U.S. dollar as the world reserve currency. So all of the nations from Europe moved their gold/silver over to the United States to keep it in our vaults at Fort Knox.
They would use the dollar, they would have it backed up with precious metals.
We started to just fucking say fuck it and mass print after fighting the war against commies and the space race.
And they (Frances economic team) found out so they pulled all of their gold out of the vaults.
And then we just said fuck it, and deracinated the global economy, because all 200 nations upon planet Earth are currently utilizing a FIAT system, be it the Euro, BRICKS, Petrol dollar, Pound, its all unbacked hyper-inflating FIAT slop....
We cant go back, only forward.
They need to flip the board in order to fix any of this at this point.

I would not be able to resist reading from the Bible, Apollo 8 style, if I was up there. Not even religious but the seething from fedoras would be irresistible and I’d have to take the opportunity. As it’s Easter, John’s account of the crucifixion I think would get the most outrage.

>>16946686
Spicier bits of Book of Enoch for me

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>>16946675
based pregnancy fetishist

>>16946685
fascinating shape

>>16946685
pee pe e

>>16946693
:)

>>16946691
Fascinating shape

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>>16946685
>be yurop
>spend money you do not have on world wars you shouldn't be fighting
>creditor who now owns your debt starts doing the same thing you did
>tells you to abandon your now useless empires that you can't even defend
>get buttmad
>try to crash the plane with no survivors
>wind up getting shackled to the petrodollar instead
*chef's kiss*
just win baby

>>16946686
You would never be selected for another mission again.

>>16946613
it's just hippie bullshit that sounds good. they don't really care

>>16946701
pregnant bellies are biologically meant to be a fascinating shape.

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David Willis (who wrote to his congressman about Isaacman's 'gutting' of SLS) is now onboard!

What's the fastest a generation ship could fly as far as we know?

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nigga looks like he's in an aurora

>>16946708
>david willis
you mentioning his name like this made me think he was actually some person of note who's opinions mattered or had influence, but no, it's just that guy.

>>16946703
>creditor who now owns your debt
Who?
I think you'll find it's the other way around with Europe and the rest of the world buying US debt.
And that's been the case for a very long time now.

>>16946713
Are you familiar with the concept of the passage of time, anon? And that things that are now used to not be so?

>>16946711
I see no one in this image

>>16946703
>just win
>while tardmerica is burning down
Yanks are truly masters of irony

>>16946703
>petrodollar
won't exist in a couple of months

>>16946715
Your post implies this is something recent when we've been picking up your tab for longer than your grandparents have had urges.

>>16946613
This flag is xenophobic.

>>16946720
>we
You didn't do shit, brownie.

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>>16946720
I don't think you've understood my post at all. Or the history of international finance, for that matter. Take a look at this flag.

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>>16946703
Where We SLOP One, We SLOP ALL!
The only good thing, is that all 200 nations of Earth are all in the same FIAT currency boat together
We either all unite together to unfuck this shit and fix the mess....or we suffer a global hyper inflationary collapse....
Aint gonna be no world bank to bail Zimbabwe out....its gonna be Omega Wiemar mode globally....everyone will all suffer together
A global class war
Bricks is FIAT, the Euro is FIAT, the pound, the ruble, all of it....ALL.OF.IT.IS.FIAT.SLOP.
Hyper-inflating FIAT SLOP

For whenever the yokels decided that instead of the natural leverage of The Creators stellar evolutionary periodic table of elements gold/silver rarity is to be replaced with a fat greedy ape holding down the print button....we seem to lose.
Strangely enough, the fat greedy ape always, always, always prints more paper.
And The Creators stellar rarity of elements is...well....adamant....congruent in a way that the fat greedy ape with their finger on the print button is not.......

But we cant go back to metals, we have to leap frog past currency itself.
Its just a slop race towards using things like vast quantities of electrons (energy as a form of money) compressed into storage devices.

We have to kill money itself, or humanity dies upon the global stage.
This far, and no farther....

meds

>>16946053
>and ICPS on top
There's only one ICPS left you stupid nigger, and Musk doesn't want a man rated FH anyway.

>>16946704
You sue for religious discrimination then and they have to let you fly :^)

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what am i in for?

>>16946742
They would simply never select your retarded ass again.

This thing is going about a mile a second?
H-he's fast!

We're gonna build an American moon colony and we're gonna make China pay for it.

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i saw news that the US claims space superiority over iran and saw that they referenced this site
https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2026/04/us-has-declared-space-superiority-over-iran-what-does-mean/412605/
https://spacedata.aei.org/space/satellites

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>>16946751
freedom ver.

are we there yet?

>>16946760
Don't.

/pol/ now has an Artemis II general. >>>/pol/532436471

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbBWQnaqa74

>>16946766
and it turns into a falt earth and moonhoax fest instantly. thankfully this place seems to have escaped much notice. so fucking annoying

>>16946658
>without putting people's lives in imminent danger.
with orion in nrho the lives of people on the moon will always be in high danger. Rewatching old apolo footage it's striking how they had a contingency for everything and were constantly doing go no-go polls during the lunar stay. They could abort to orbit at a moments notice so were only about a week from home. Meanwhile if you land in Artemis 4 and need to abort after a few hours then tough luck, you will be waiting days just to do the abort liftoff.

>>16946766
Pol has a dozen Artemis threads any given moment. The combination of Trumpian American triumphalism and toilets is irresistible to them.

Amazon’s total constellation target is reportedly 3,232 satellites. The company has now launched approximately 241. Its FCC license requires half the constellation, around 1,616 satellites, to be in orbit by July. The gap between 241 and 1,616 is not a gap that two extra satellites per Atlas 5 mission can close.

Amazon filed a request with the FCC to extend the deployment deadline by two years or waive it entirely, citing delays from its contracted launch providers: Arianespace, Blue Origin, and ULA. The company is essentially arguing that it did everything within its control to meet the timeline, but the rockets weren’t ready.

Give Jeff his waver. Better Bezos than Musk.

>>16946785
You're laughing at poor jeffy but this will be Mush with hls next year

>>16946773
You kidding? This place is filled with politics, including the rest of /sci/. It's just muted compared to /pol/ of all things.

>>16946788
go hang out in the various artemis threads for a while and then come back here. you'll be glad of the respite.

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NSF has a few ideas. They apparently got into Elon's Ketamine stash.

>>16946773
it turns into a falt earth and moonhoax

And sfg was an inertialess drive hang out for months. Wouldn't go pointing fingers.

>>16946743
more delusional timelines.
How can this man say with a straight face that Artemis 3 is next year when neither private provider has shown any prospect of being close to ready? Blue Origin is like 2 to 3 years away from being able to achieve this. SpaceX is about 8 to 10 years away.

>>16946792
they stole this from the chinese

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>>16946792
Is it impatience or desperation at this point that's driving all the crackpot theory crafting? Is it because Starship isn't anywhere near ready to perform as advertised and that the only recent big step is Artemis II?

>>16946794
Blue is working on their Yeet Lander hack that could happen in 2027. But the current Summer date is very aggressive. Maybe before the end of the year. HLS is stone dead.

>>16946796
Think that's more of a bit of bant than a serious proposal.

>>16946796
i like people proposing ideas even if they're not that great. its alot better than the usual whining and quips that you see by your average person on other websites.

>>16946618
>pretending there's no inherent political component to Artemis
neither stupidity nor dishonesty is a virtue

>>16946656
The real reason for the delay is that Elon thinks 1) he can make lunar infrastructure not merely possible but actually profitable and 2) once Optimus is sufficiently capable, Mars infrastructure can be built, including ISRU propellant, long term closed system life support and food production can be demonstrated and operational at some scale before sending humans. It also potentially solves the catch and launch ground infrastructure problems if you're willing to wait long enough.

But primarily it's about a greedy (in the technical sense) shift toward shorter term profit. Elon's plans are only meaningful if he can fund them.

>>16946805
The politics of nationalism and influence, yes. The programs of the 60s even had that. But not pol's neo Nazi rants.

>>16946812
racist fascist pig.

>>16946813
It's bad trolling (or mentally retarded coping) because you're seething and shitting yourself but you couldn't even pretend to refute the obvious truth.

Do better.

>>16946703
>be amerigoy
>only read robert maxwell's version of history
>think you're super superior whilst you're actually just a hebrew's plaything about to be discarded
Europe would have been on the moon had you not been such a good golem and destroyed Europe for your masters

>>16946812
I'm one of those two groups and I say you should kill yourself.

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>>16946819
this you?

>>16946820
Actually sorry I responded to the wrong person. You're good.
>>16946813
Kill yourself.

Wakey wakey

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>>16946823
eggs and rapey

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this is very funny to me

>>16946809
>Elon's plans are only meaningful if he can fund them.
He has been able to fund whatever the fuck he wants for the last decade.
At the same time, this has been your excuse for the last decade. What a coincidence.

>>16946785
>The launch bottleneck is real, but Amazon’s situation is partly self-inflicted. Amazon’s parent company owns Blue Origin, whose New Glenn heavy-lift rocket was supposed to be a core part of the Kuiper launch strategy. Blue Origin was itself a source of the bottleneck: New Glenn’s delays contributed to the heavy-lift shortage that Kuiper is now citing as justification for an extension. The circularity deserves scrutiny.

>The FCC’s milestone rules exist to prevent spectrum warehousing, and Amazon knew the launch market was constrained when it designed its deployment timeline. Without enforceable deadlines, applicants could seek authorizations to block rivals, increase bargaining leverage, or hold spectrum idle. The FCC has legitimate institutional reasons to enforce strictly.

>If it grants exceptions based on investment size, it creates a precedent that rewards deep-pocketed applicants who can always claim extenuating circumstances. Every future operator seeking an extension will cite the Amazon case, and the FCC will have weakened the only enforcement mechanism that gives milestone rules teeth.

>Moreover, Amazon designed its deployment schedule knowing Blue Origin’s New Glenn was unproven and heavy-lift capacity was tight. Amazon made a strategic choice, not one forced by external misfortune. If the FCC allows companies to externalize the consequences of their own launch bets onto the regulatory timeline, the milestone system becomes advisory rather than binding.

>There is also a scenario the extension’s proponents rarely address: what happens if Amazon gets two more years and still fails to deploy? The spectrum remains locked, the precedent is set, and the FCC has spent its enforcement credibility for nothing. If the extension becomes a runway to an eventual wind-down, the warehousing critics will have been vindicated, and the FCC will have set a precedent it cannot easily retract.

Why do they have show cgi in the stream? Why can't ee have two cameras outside showing the earth getting smaller and the moon bigger? Do they want people to doubt them?

I feel sad that neither of the commercial landers leave a stage behind. The LEM descent stage remaining on the moon is such an awe inspriring and awesome monument to the acheivement. Leaving physical evidence of the acheivement for milliosn of years to come.

>>16946766
God bless whoever made that thread
Single handedly saving /sfg/ from the tourist rape gangs
Why don't we do this for all important launches? Instead of making a new thread on /sci/, do it on /pol/ so they don't even come anywhere close to here.
Especially after IFTs, the general tends to become unusable for weeks at a time. It's a serious problem.

>>16946828
i think its rather lovely

>>16946648
What continent is that on the left on the globe?

>>16946685
There is nothing at all special about your favorite shiny rock. Get over it. Also this is a spaceflight board.

>>16946833
the live feed has been pretty shit. spacex would have done a way better job

>>16946837
not a bad idea

>>16946841
They would have done a better job IF they had done the job. They didn't.

>>16946844
i think thats fairly obvious yes, thank you Mr EDS

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This is the man who will first open the hatch after they land back on Earth.

>>16946837
thank Sagan that your superior euphoric intellect is here

>>16946836
It's just some garbage that was too heavy to bother bringing back, just like Neil and Buzz's poop bags which are still up there too.

If I play Kerbal Space Program, will it teach me shit about orbital mechanics?

>>16946881
yes

>>16946881
Just let mechjeb do it and watch what it does to learn

>>16946881
In theory, yes. In practice, depends just how retarded you are.

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>>16946883
>mechjeb

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>>16946878
>It's just some garbage
Soulless

>>16946666
Because venus is so massive.

>>16946652
That was always a cope to avoid going to Mars

>>16946881
You'll learn the basic shit and what goes on in a rocket launch and how orbits work in essence
Not rocket science

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo7mR44sqCQ
powerful...

>>16946901
I'm dying to cum in her pussy

today is LSOI day!

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something seems off about this view count...

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>female takes a selfie in space
>"ugh women are fucking narcissistic bitches"
>male takes a selfie in space
>*crickets*

>>16946918
vgh.. a pioneer and explorer... sovl

>>16946841
Isn't it all on the Deep Space network? Does SpaceX have a better connection out that far somehow?

>>16946924
yep. it can go up to a few hundred mbps(?), which is quite good

>>16946844
Elon should be forced to pay Boeing for Artemis

>>16946918
well he's Canadian, that's feminine

>>16946927
thats reid wiseman though. what will be your next cope i wonder?

emails discussion right now

even astronauts aren't exempt from Outlook issues, again

>>16946929
the photo was candid

>>16946937
>Why do we all have to wear these ridiculous ties?

Leah flaunting her religion with that necklace. cringe

>>16946942
happy Easter!

>>16946918
There's a difference between "woman astronaut photographed in space" and "social media foid advertises herself as a sex object." It's subtle, but it's there.

>>16946940
remember that one dude who wore that hawaiian shirt and got cancelled because there was a girl in a bikini on it?

Toilet status?

>>16946972
Yes. And it was his wife who sewed the shirt for him.

>>16946974
Full of shitcicles that would make Moscow proud.

>>16946977
grim

>>16946795
china is explicitly mentioned there

>>16946977
must be why Gene Krantz always stuck with white

it's been 5 days already?

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what's that on his finger?

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>>16946987
blood oxygen meter. technology connections has a nice video on it

>>16946988
cool

>we're still updating outlook so everything but e-mail is go

lmao, common microsoft L

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>>16946991
this is what he took a picture of (it's me)

>>16946992
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Zawinski#Zawinski's_Law

Orion is as cramped and unaesthetic as the ISS, bring back Skylab kino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1sr6aVzW9M

oi you got a loicense for that stowage?

>>16946995
wow i didn't know that. awesome. why did they make the iss so small and cramped?

hot BRUSHING action going on right now.

>>16946999
because the modules had to fly up on a proton or in the shittle payload bay.

>>16947000
gay. how did they do it with skylab?

>>16947001
Using saturn

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>>16947001
a fuckin' Saturn V, mate. it replaced most of the 3rd stage.

>>16946988
they are sciencing the shit out of it

>>16946995
its huge compared to Apollo

>>16947002
>>16947003
and they replaced that with the deadly space shuttle because?

>>16946613
>>16946723
I actually think a hand is a decent design for a flag of humanity as a whole
certainly better than random geometric shapes
not too hot about the colors though, too polite

EGGS

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>>16947006
MORMONS

>>16947007
but i don't think you can put humanity under one flag, it's just hippie bullshit really

>>16947003
Skylab is my favourite looking Saturn launch. My oh my what could have been.
5 of these big fuckers could have put up a Mars or Venus flyby mission, we were so close.
Imagine how far the voyager probes would be if they were launched on a Saturn V.

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Musk is playing 4d chess. He knows that the best way to make America do a manned Mars mission is to have them spectacularly lose to China on the Moon, so he is doing everything he can to sabotage HLS. Trvst the Plvn

>>16946977
lads, is wearing a hideous shirt worse than having a nazi fencing scar?

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surely the well-tested, well-performing, under-budget and reliable orion heatshield will protect these 4 people from burning alive in 5 days, right?

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legs

>>16947011
that I agree with
I'm just saying that if it were to happen somehow, I wouldn't mind a cool organic hand symbol
it is meaningful even if you're an alien otherwise completely ignorant of our culture

>>16946817
>would have
Ok, but what about now? It is curious how the majority of Europe, right now, is in a non-destroyed state, and yet, no capability to go to the moon. What excuse will you come up with to explain this?

>>16946917
lmao

snacks

>>16947011
you're getting under a flag with me whether you like it or not bitch

Not enough normies care about this. If elol was doing it they would care more

pills here!

>>16946613
>Is it just a dogwhistle for "I hate white people"

Yes.

>>16947032
they would care only to hate it. but this is caring admittedly

EXTREME THIRST

>>16947035
No, it's a hope for motivating other group members to start pulling their weight. Even if someone's a retard, they're more likely to happily find something they can do or at least not be disruptive if they feel included as opposed to scorned.

We're all stuck together in the same system forever and it would be better if we all helped

>easter
>no egg hunt
what are they even doing?

>>16947045
they mentioned hiding eggs earlier in the morning briefing with Houston. PAY ATTENTION.

>>16947021
in space everyone can hear you fart

Artemis IV Go/No Go poll
>FIDO GO
>GUIDANCE GO
>CONTROL GO
>TOILET GO
>CAPCOM GO

>>16947048
I believe now we need a full time toilet person on console for the moon base

What are our space niggas up to?

>>16947052
they'll be testing their space suits (seeing how quickly two of them can put them on), and installing the seats. they'll also be testing the pill-hole in the helmets.

>>16947050
Space janitors are the real heroes

what is the worst thing with the highest probability of killing them right now?

>>16947058
software.

The sissor that got away...

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>>16947061
scissors are important. apollo 17 tidbit:

>>16947054
>installing the seats
I don't know if I would feel confident trusting my life to a seat I've had to assemble myself
fuck something up and you'll smear yourself on the window during reentry

>>16947059
>software
do they have backup paper instructions?
if they lost radio and an Outlook update decided to brick their tablet at an inopportune moment, would they be screwed?

>>16947068
they have contingency plans for everything. even If the engines fail, they can still extend kevlar reinforced oars from the sides of the capsule and row back to earth

>>16947062
Thanks for posting that. The thing that floated away just now looked more like ordinary nail clippers.

>>16947062
& the audio: https://apolloinrealtime.org/17/?t=118:09:23

>We had a lot of fun kidding him on the way out and all the way back about losing his scissors in a spacecraft which was, after all, not very big. But the complication was that the whole timeline on the surface was geared to having two pairs of scissors. With two pairs, Gene and I could leave one pair in the cabin and take the other pair outside - probably as a contingency tool - and not have to worry about taking it up and down (the ladder). However, because you needed the scissors to cut the plastic food bags, we finally condescended to leave one pair with Ron so that he could eat. And ultimately his scissors were found. I found them as we were preparing stowage for re-entry; but was able to signal to Gene that I'd found them without Ron knowing it. We continued to give him a pretty hard time and said that, in fact, we didn't think he'd lost them at all but he was trying to get away with these scissors as a memento of the flight and that ultimately the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) would be very interested in his activity. They were fancy, surgical scissors. At the splashdown party we had at the Flight Control Division - probably a month after the mission - we presented the scissors to Ron with great fanfare. We'd had to do an awful lot of preparation because, in order for the inventory of the spacecraft not to be confused, I had to let the crew assistance people in on the secret.

>>16947062
>no sir
interesting how the astronaut culture changed
back then they sounded like military on a mission
now it's a road trip with colleagues

>>16947062
I am so ready for mass autism to end

>>16947073
Sounds like they were bullying him. I as an autistic incel would have had a meltdown fuelled by infernal autistic rage and caused everyone to get killed.

you could grill up a nice salmon on that foot rest

>>16947080
thats why he's an astronaut and you aren't

>>16947075
>now it's a road trip with colleagues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl_VdN6rfrQ

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so fucking aesthetic my god

>>16947075
>they sounded like military
because they were

>>16947075
They weren't IFLScience redditors.

>>16946839
That's the strait of Gibraltar

>>16947090
>the last thing you see is africa
bleak

>>16947043
It's just the remnants of the naïve star trek ism that everyone is completely equal so anyone can do anything

what's gonna happen to this capsule after the mission? straight to a museum or back to lockheed martin to be stripped down?

>>16947006
Because reusable spaceplanes were supposed to be cheap and rapidly reusable. It didn't work out

>>16947075
Back when spaceflight was taken seriously.
The biggest mistake NASA ever made was conciously trying to make manned spaceflight unheroic and boring during Shuttle. It backfired because then people where super shocked when crews died.
This gay shit with a plushie and corporate HR atmosphere massively reduces the cultural impact of Artemis. But everyhting must be done to court the mythical science wahman, so nothing cool can be allowed.

>>16947095
dunno
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(spacecraft)#List_of_vehicles

>>16947092
and europe

>>16947095
Probably sent back to Lockheed to be examined. This is just a test flight, and the capsule is still unproven and riddled with issues. Especially the toilet.

>>16947099
incorrect.
people were 'super shocked' when Apollo 1 happened, too.
it makes no sense to have military test pilots on the future moonbase. They need research associates.

>>16947101
but you repeat yourself

>>16947095
hopefully used to make future orions fully reusable then donated to the museum in houston

>>16946656
We will never love on mars or the moon. The gravity change is fatal long term

>>16947105
your dad was 'super shocked' last night when I showed him my blowjob skills, faggot.

>>16947114
you are infected by /pol/. go back.
I can't wait for your petulant reply, kid.

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I really like how big Skylab's interiors were

>>16947115
Your dad was infe... I was y-you.... Shut it. Zip it kid.

>>16947116
bottom left photo is from the Smithsonian of unflown Skylab B. I recommend visiting, you can go inside (partially)

>>16947116
Did the toilet on this thing work?

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does anyone know if they're still sticking with this EVA suit design? or have we updated to something more/less ugly?

>the pressure suit test is expected to take all day
>it will save them in the event of cabin depressurization
If the cabin depressurizes won't they die before they get the suits on?

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>>16947123
yes

>>16947129
why was skylab so much more advanced than the iss?

>>16947128
depends how fast it depressurizes dont it

>>16947131
what makes you think that? besides the size.

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>>16947131

>>16947128
Yes but I think the idea is to don the suits before certain operations when depressurization is more likely

>>16947133
I mean for starters they allowed women on ISS...

>>16947139
ah ok you don't actually care then.

>>16947132
Wouldn't be instant since they're in a vacuum? The hole would just get bigger until the entire capsule was a hole.

>>16947142
12psi isn't much. ever mess around with a vacuum chamber in undergrad?

>>16947139
You really think they'd let people who aren't absolutely brilliant on space missions for muh diversity?

>>16946613
Lets them leach off others without actually putting in the work.
Like Rakesh can spend all day at home gooning, then when a bunch of white/asian people plant a flag on the moon he can suck himself off about how awesome humanity is and how WE can do anything. He will then post about how billionaires are hiding the cure for cancer because they want to make money of not curing people, totally ignorant of what cancer actually is, then maybe he will fantasize about immortality as if we could ever justify the immense effort it would take to keep everyone alive like that.

TLDR; Some people are extremely lazy and want to be the main character.

>>16946675
I agree with the moon being more important than Mars for research reasons. But why the fuck would you build a colony around it? I assume you mean in the orbit instead of on Mars On makes more sense as you remove the issue with gravity effecting human reproduction, bone density, blindness, etc. Also you're right there where all the resources are. Seems easier to stay on Mars where gravity helps keep the atmosphere there. Just build a shield around it to block the sun from stripping it.

Personally I also like the idea of the moon being a graveyard/archive of humanity. No atmosphere, the crust protecitng the inside from asteroids, etc ensure things last as long as possible. Sadly we are now pozzed and no doubt there would be a few artifacts for trying ti show the existence of DNA, and an entire continents worth of shit about gay pride, to the point where alians assume all reproduction is male-male anal intercourse. Black obviousy.

>>16947145
No I'm retarded. I'm mostly basing this on the scenes from The Martian and Interstellar when they bombed the airlocks.

>>16947147
obsessed.

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>>16947134

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>>16947134
I love how the airlock hatch is just a door from a gemini capsule. I mean hey if you've already designed it

>>16947147
congratulations, you have brought black gay sex discussion into /sfg/ because.....? why exactly?
Spaceflight?

>>16947146
yeah

>krispy kreme box
dunkinbros...

>>16947127
give it a spiky helmet and some katanas

what are these two geeks talking about? are they fucking?

>woman on board
>name is pronounced cook

>>16947127
It's not that ugly. We can certainly make it even uglier with proper work.

>>16947128
isn't the test also about how practical is it to stay suited in the cabin?
so they'll wear them all day to see how it impacts daily activities
putting on the suit in case of an emergency has to be much faster, as you say
they're going to have two astronauts don the suits normally, and two in express mode, presumably for those emergencies

>>16947159
>named cook
>plunges toilets
handwashing status?

>>16947148
in martian the hole got bigger because it was a rip in hab canvas
well, in book martian
a rigid construction wouldn't be impacted so dramatically
so depressurisation speed would depend on the size of the hole, which size would probably stay more or less constant

>>16947152
Because Artemis is causing polleaks in every sub. An unfortunate problem.

>>16947164
Well that too but I meant at the end when they blow up the rescue ship to use the venting oxygen to alter course. They don't have a second compartment in there.

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>>16947148
We've had holes in space suits before. It just leaves a mark on your body where the hole is. You won't get sucked out into space like you see in movies.

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Now that the dust has fully settled...
What made them think that using a Superheavy lift disposable launch vehicle to put a giant refurbishable glider plus medium size payload into LEO was going to be cheaper than using a medium lift rocket?

>you can watch
we sent some FREAKS into space

Does Artemis have a sextant on board just in case like Apollo did or do they have a gay little app on their iPhone?

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it's actually going to happen

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>>16947129
Towel Retention Device is funny for some reason.

>>16947169
Medium lift rockets with the performance parameters you have in mind were pretty expensive before Falcon 9, especially before reuse.

retard here, can you explain to me why the spacesuits require being zipped up from the back? Wouldn't that mean you couldn't put it on by yourself in an emergency situation?

Seems like a pretty big oversight (unless their thought is if it's gotten to the point where you're the only one left shit is too far gone to begin with)

>>16947176
what's the chance that of the four, three are incapacitated and one isn't?
risk analysis is a thing. all of engineering is tradeoffs.

>>16947168
So why is it called a vacuum if you don't get sucked out?
What if the suit hole was in the crotch? What would happen then?

>>16947178
The three guys could sprain their hands from gooning too hard.

>>16947167
again, depends on the size of the hole
martian's Hermes was bigger and took noticeable time to empty
orion is small, so with a basketball-sized hole they would be immediately super fucked
but the leak might be small enough to allow time to act

>>16947179
PENIS ENLARGEMENT. science has yet to explain it but it certainly happens

>>16947179
again, it's going to be at most a 12psi delta. usually less since spacecraft are at 5-12 psi or whatever. that's not much if the hole is small.

>>16947178
the spacex suits don't seem to have this limitation

>>16947184
Isn't the problem that they're going to 0 and not so much that they only lost 12 psi?

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why did they cut away when Christina was changing into that tight black outfit?

>>16947188
huh? I don't think you understand

>>16947189
Who's gonna file the FOIA request?

>>16947191
What I don't understand is why the capsule wouldn't just be instantly torn to shreds if there's a leak since that's what happens to airplanes unless they descend immediately.

>>16947192
The people have a RIGHT TO KNOW.

>>16947186
those aren't complex rescue-type suits. these have built-in life rafts, among other features.

>>16947189
nasa is in texas, and lewd content requires ID verification in texas for the safety of the children

>>16947196
but they were ok with showing us a naked black guy?

>>16947194
>>16947196
I paid for the panties she's wearing so I should get to watch her float around in them. That's how taxes work.

>>16947193
hahahahahahahhahhahahaahahahahhahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaah. you've been corrupted by movies/Hollywood. lmao.
planes don't get torn to shreds if there is a small hole. never have.

fucking kids in this general I swear

>>16947197
it's like that nowadays. men can be almost butt naked in movies and so on but it's misogynistic when women do it

>>16947193
lets say you have a sphere with 12psi inside and 0 psi outside.

there is 12psi force on the sphere pushing out.
now poke a hole in it.

air escapes through the hole.

there is still just 12psi of pressure. no enormous pressure change magically materializes. go re-take 9th grade science, christ almighty

>>16947198
I was told there are no panties in space.

>>16947193
Airplanes operate in a much more dangerous environment. Ignoring the negative effects of radiation exposure and long stays in a zero g environment, flying at hundreds of miles per hour in earth's dense atmosphere is genuinely more dangerous than floating in space outside of the atmosphere.

>>16947202
What does this capsule smell like exactly?

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night vision

>>16947193
the capsule is much too strong for that to happen
to begin with, a perforation is unlikely
they're probably more worried that something will come loose and start leaking air somehow

>>16947193
this dude thinks Alien Resurrection's ending is realistic wow

how do the suits actually deal with the bodily "waste"? They say the suits are designed to support life for 6 days, that's a long time to go without peeing/pooping or eating/drinking

space will suck out your living guts if you let
better beat it into submission first before it gets the chance

>>16947199
>>16947201
I already told you I'm retarded.

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OMG THE BOTTLE ROCKET WILL EXPLODE IF YOU LEt AIR RELEASE FROM IT1111!!