FOIA anon here The ancient web portal NASA has for checking request status seems to be broken, probably why there's scheduled maintenance in a few days Other than that, no updates
>>16993034 So how are they gonna get it vertical without a TEL? Without building infrastructure that is 5x more complicated all round (ie an enormous fucking hangar)
>>16993088 I can 100% guarantee robinhood will let you put in a market order the week of the ipo if you can't figure out how to open a rh account and put in an order you REALLY shouldn't be pursuing self directed investments of any kind
>>16993103 First you need to define what you mean by performing and what is risk. BO was testing its rockets on their only launch pad, while spacex uses a separate testing facility, who is risking more?
>>16993168 you are saying that Musks random shitposts and off-the-cuff remarks in some random interview are concrete timelines? not to mention all the qualifiers he tends to use when he knows the probability is uncertain
>>16993158 I'm not sure they even care that much I think they're going to focus on Tiangong more and perhaps get others joining in. The ISS is coming down soon enough and it's an ego blow for US spaceflight with them being the only manned presence in space
After watching Project Hail Mary, I now want humanity to get rid of electronics and microchips-based technology completely. There is nothing that can't be done with actuators, fluidics, compressed gases, gears, gyros, pins, pipes and valves.
" On Monday night, Blue Origin’s chief executive, Dave Limp, said the company would launch from its damaged pad before the end of this year, less than seven months from now.
None of the former SpaceX employees I spoke with for this article—some on the record, some off—believe this timeline is realistic. Twelve months was generally viewed as the best-case scenario. Eighteen months was seen as most likely. "
>>16993202 wrong, BO had taken in more investment money than SpaceX before the xAI merger having infinite money makes people not care about money, making them inefficient Musk is extremely frugal
They'll rush it during the first six months, in an attempt to get to Limp's retarded deadline. Actually check out the work they did thoroughly and realize they need to go back and redo it all. Remember, it took SpaceX 15 months to recover from AMOS.
https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-says-farewell-to-maven-mars-mission-hosts-media-call-today/ >The first mission devoted to observing the Martian atmosphere and its evolution, NASA’s MAVEN (Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution), has ended after more than 11 years in orbit at Mars and a decade beyond its primary, one-year mission. The spacecraft was heard last on Dec. 6, when it experienced an unexpected loss of signal after it passed behind the Red Planet. The agency convened an anomaly review board in February to evaluate recovery efforts and assess the spacecraft’s probable current state. The review board has determined that the MAVEN spacecraft is not recoverable, and it is no longer capable of performing its science and data relay mission, which is consistent with the mission team’s findings.
>Telemetry from MAVEN prior to the spacecraft’s passage behind Mars in December showed all subsystems working normally. After the spacecraft emerged, NASA’s Deep Space Network (DSN) did not observe a signal. A brief fragment of telemetry data from analysis of radio signals recorded by the DSN’s open-loop receivers indicated the spacecraft was in safe mode and rotating at an unusually high rate when it emerged from behind Mars, indicating a disruption in MAVEN’s orbit trajectory. The review board concluded that due to this rotation, the batteries on the spacecraft had drained, causing the communications system to lose power and rendering MAVEN in an unrecoverable state.
>These preliminary findings do not address a potential root cause for the anomaly, which still is being investigated. The review board is expected to provide its final report later this year. NASA has begun the official process of decommissioning the MAVEN mission, following standard procedures to archive the full mission dataset for the science and exploration communities.
https://x.com/xdNiBoR/status/2062182327380271129 >This Grimes County meeting is so funny because first they will decide on one of the most important tech projects for the US and then they will decide if they can buy a laptop for this random dude >I hope he gets his laptop.
>>16993263 i was but I didn't listen to it (other than some snippets I guess) but this seemed less hysterical, probably due to people simply not being aware of it
>>16993275 A lot of people use it for porn. It's pretty good at it if you know how to prompt it correctly and get around the moderator that doesn't want you making porn in the first place.
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>>16993284 The public are retarded, man. They probably all showed up to this thinking that Elon wanted to either build launch sites in their backyard or that he was building a data center. No one pays attention to anything. The Carlin joke about how fucking dumb 50% of the population is remains evergreen.
>>16993168 To me (I am retarded) a deadline means there must be some consequence if not met. >if we don't meet this deadline then we will... set another deadliine That doesn't like a deadline at all. To me. Per se
>>16993320 they also seem to think that the county would be able to stop the project the abatment and this economic zone thing is more about getting the county on board
>>16993322 a goal isn't a deadline the personal version of this is like... "I will be on the varsity team next year" and you don't make the cut. the missing it is the penalty
SpaceX plans to set IPO price at $135 per share, targeting record $75 billion raise
>In a surprise move ahead of its investor roadshow, Elon Musk's SpaceX plans to fix its IPO price at $135 per share to raise a record-setting $75 billion, according to a source familiar with the matter. >The rocket and satellite communications company plans to sell 555.6 million shares, the source said. It is aiming for a valuation of $1.75 trillion, two other people said. >SpaceX's roadshow begins on Thursday. >A fixed price ahead of presentations to investors and bookbuilding is highly unusual. >There is no rule banning SpaceX's unconventional plan for setting a fixed price for the IPO, said Weiheng Chen, a senior partner in Hong Kong at U.S. law firm Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati. >"Musk is simply taking a 'take-it-or-leave-it' approach which works for his followers and is also sensible given the market conditions and the lack of comparables," Chen said. https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/spacex-plans-raise-75-billion-ipo-135-per-share-source-says-2026-06-03/
>>16993231 he could easily have posted it on a mechanical computer outputting display to a mechanical television and recieving input via mechanical keyboard
>>16993343 >read reddit comments about it >almost none of them know what starshield is >they all think its starlink i get that they're really similar, but cmon
>>16993103 >Why is SpaceX performing so much better than its competitors, despite taking so much more risk? Literal divine favor >And is the future of Space travel private or governmental? SpaceX (rather, the conglomerate that results from the merger with Tesla) is going to be larger than any single government within the next ~30 years, so is there really any difference? Also why did you capitalize Space like that?
>>16993103 Elon. Build test until break build repeat system, Elon is a master at manufacturing. They can wreck shit fix it then retry fast. He pays the best. Stage zero comes first. Ula was a joke. Elon bought up the republicans supporting it. Private builders government controls until price comes down more. There will be crashes for another 100 years, the nature of the industry means it will happen. Blue virgin tried to go ula route which is get it perfect then test it, space x gets it ready. Starship is cheap because it’s steel and he can spam them and the engines out until flight 20 for cheap before it gets near done. By flight 15 they’ll be putting star links up.
It’s Elon though. He gets good managers and when things get fucked up pile raptor 2 he steps in and personally redesigns it from production floor to finished project then he vanishes
>>16993384 >global autonomous transport and robotics dragging everything down The orbital megabrain needs a body, anon. Tesla already leads the world on physically deployed AI. Every Tesla vehicle and robot will be networked into the largest compute pool ever built.
>>16993391 It'll spike 15% or more on the first day, near guarantee. But it'll then probably crash back down below IPO price, maybe in the ~$100 range, so he won't be a trillionaire again until it climbs back up.
>>16993392 >>global autonomous transport This will be copied by Chyna immediately and then made substantially cheaper. Space tech is much more of a pain in the ass to rip off. >robotics China is better at this already.
>>16993398 You are either a wumao or captured by wumao propagandizing. You either don't understand Tesla's lead in these segments or you're pretending not to.
>>16993391 If they announce test launching like 20 starlink on the flight 13 of starship he crushes it. At that point they are able to start putting up 100s at a time for 15 mil a launch
>>16993412 They won’t throw anything away, ste us cheap as is methlonox. The boosters per material are very cheap same with the fuel. They can catch boosters and probably ships but Elon doesn’t want to destroy the pad. He can pump out a booster, starship and the engines in about a month now.
Think about it Elon has spent on the project starship and boosters maybe a billion. To build one and launch one is 100 million. For 10 billion he could have 100 flights. If they start reusing all they have to worry about is heat tiles and fuel general maintenance. 20 million is high balling it. The total fuel cost to spacex is around 500,000 normal Market 800-1 million. It’s cheap. To build a booster is around 1 million in that steel. Each raptor 3 costs around 700,000 now.
Tiles, fuel and labor repeat 10 million eventually. Falcon has about 10 million in parts resuable and fuel is around 300k for 1/8th lift capacity. Starship uses cheap fuel with cheap materials and is reusable fully
>>16993419 The starship and boosters maybe vehicles are made of steel. It is a cheap material compared to carbon fibers. They mass produce starships now. V3 is the last major jump. It’s now to refining phases
>>16993428 People have successfully FOIA'd for NASA's footage of other private launches/tests. Assuming there's actually footage, I'd say I have a pretty good chance of getting it.
>>16993424 idk either. but the reuters report said there will be a roadshow to promote the ipo. cnbc said it'll start after markets close today, which is 5pm eastern.
> A roadshow is a critical part of the Initial Public Offering (IPO) process, where a company’s executive team and its underwriters pitch the newly formed company to prospective investors. Meetings may be held in person and virtually. >A roadshow showcases company financials and generates enthusiasm for the offering. Roadshows are regulated according to rules of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and allow institutional investors to ask questions, meet management, and ultimately help set an IPO price. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/roadshow.asp
elon about to do a flurry of presentations. maybe gwynne too.
https://x.com/theauroraguy/status/2062262512729403418 >Not since May 2024 have we seen 3 consecutive Earth directed CME's. Wonder how this one will play out but it appears that at least one of them will catch the others, another discombobulated CME arrival. G4 anyone?
https://x.com/TamithaSkov/status/2062049104532828628 >Direct Hit! The solar storm launched during the M9.3-flare is indeed Earth-directed! Since this is the second significant eruption from Region 4455 while in the Earth-strike zone, this means this second storm could get "held up" in "traffic" on its way to Earth. The NASA solar storm prediction shows the second storm arrival by late June 4. However, the first storm will precede this so expect some impact starting around mid-day June 4 with the stronger storm arriving close behind!
https://science.nasa.gov/blogs/roman/2026/06/03/hello-world-nasa-shares-new-home-for-roman-space-telescope-updates/ >NASA’s Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope is officially slated to launch Aug. 30, eight months ahead of schedule and even earlier than previously targeted.
>>16993611 >and other fantasies you can tell yourself That faggot seems to forget that while making fun of starship for not hitting the projected payload yet, new glenn is nowhere near it’s 50 ton figure either, their engines are only merely good (crap compared to spacex) so their TWR at liftoff is godawful, new glenn suffers from massive gravity losses.
>>16993608 I haven't been posting because I'm currently binge watching season 1 of Star Trek TOS. First time watching the series and I'm very much enjoying it, so far.
Wait, hold on...it appears that I am arriving at Season 2 and I'm coming up on it fast... Apologies, but I am needed at the bridge..
>>16993625 I like the TOS bridge way more than the TNG one. Kirk can see everything and reach every station if he needs to. On TNG, Picard can't even see the back half of the bridge, let alone reach it.
>>16993611 Might be useful for certain payloads, but throwing away the upper stage will keep it from being cost-competitive. Assuming Starship's reusability work out as planned, of course.
>>16993611 Am I the only one that feels like New Glenn is "visually" small?? Like its as big as the Saturn V, but its all smooth and plain and visually boring so my brain scales it to Falcon 9 size.
>>16993048 >>16993644 >flare stack gets blown out then reignited >burns horizontally afterwards firestorm in the making had there been more flammable material around
>>16993728 The graph at 2:45 shows that with Starship they're claiming 99% cost reduction over their calculated 1970-2000 average price of $18,500/kg to LEO.
That works out to $185/kg to LEO (or less). -If Starship manages 50 tons that's $9,250,000 per launch -If Starship manages 100 tons that's $18,500,000 per launch -If Starship manages 150 tons that's $27,750,000 per launch
https://x.com/JackWhitlock/status/2062485537580110133 >That was a close one! A Grid Fin appears to have locked up. You can see the Merlin engine gimbal at the last second to avoid landing on the wrong part of the droneship.
https://x.com/asherbphotos/status/2062492601157038360 >SpaceX launches 29 more Starlink satellites aboard Falcon 9 this morning right at sunrise, giving us an incredible golden hour launch!
>>16993738 >>never makes any profit >>somehow almost the most valuable company well, yes amazon barely turns a profit either, do you question how valuable it is? they reinvest everything.
as a corporation your main imperative is to turn every profitable function of your business into capex and expand. in SpaceX's case they need more than that, which is why it's IPOing at all, but yeah that's how things work
>>16993763 thats how some companies work, many (or perhaps most) just start squeezing their current operations for maximum profit instead of expanding into new areas
>>16993819 that was before orbital AI compute seemed like a thing the moon enables scaling orbital compute, hence it will help with the industrialization of space and thus help with the long term colonization of the moon without a industry case the moon could be argued to be a distraction and now when I think about it, I guess the moon program overhaul (Musk was probably somewhat aware of the plans) coincides with this pivot from SpaceX to the moon with previous NASA management SpaceX would have had to basically do the moon thing by themselves and that combined with no business/industry case does make it seem kind of pointless
>>16993831 so far we've had the varda pods landing in australia and new mexico. i wonder if we'll soon have designated landing infrastructure. not necessarily spaceports, but landingports instead.
>>16993842 I guess its a in-orbit manufacturing pod and return capsule in one, like a mini-factory such as manufacturing some drug that benefits from 0g during the manufacturing process Varda has been testing this for a number of years already
>>16993719 Then don't compare it to an operational Starship, you fucking mongoloid. What, Starship isn't operational yet? Ultra Giga Nigga NG doesn't even exist as hardware, likely not as anything beyond a design sketch.
>>16993867 the amount of people who complain about Starship being suborbital only to shill things that haven't lifted off of a press sheet is ridiculous
>>16993611 Cool, nigga, can I make a graph that adds 12m and 16m Starship? Because what comes after is going to be either one of those since Elon even inserted mention of a larger diameter rocket into the prospectus and reversed his position on the size of Starship literally years ago.
>>16993831 Seems kind of gay unless you’re doing something at scale, or on the moon and chucking it up with a mass driver. Small-scale manufacturing is too startup-y. And I don’t want to hear shit about “it’s a proof of concept!”
>>16993896 its not proof of concept, its for low mass low volume high value things like drugs if the dose is a few milligrams and the capsule brings back like 100kg of the drug, then that is a lot of doses
>>16993323 What happens is, presumably, that it allows png image compression to get the file size below 4chan's limit. Alternatively, the file could have been jpeg'd
https://x.com/djfnfkdkdkz/status/2062534560374833616 >At 19:39 Beijing Time on June 4, 2026, China successfully launched a Long March-6A carrying the 11th batch of Qianfan polar-orbiting satellites.
>my broker's spacex IPO prospectus is 413 pages >wants me to read all of it before making an offer Planning on 300 shares unless something changes my mind.
https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/2062215119329735118 >With several Falcon Heavy launches coming up, SpaceX is stocking up hardware. Expendable center core B1106 just rolled to the test stand at McGregor. SpaceX now has 4 center cores (91, 99, 105 & 106) & 4 side boosters (72, 75, 102 & 104) in inventory.
>>16993925 >SpaceX wins HLS contract in competition with BO >BO successfully sues NASA and gets a second equal-attention HLS contract >BO explodes their new rocket >BO's HLS Mk1 flies on SpaceX Falcon Heavy lol, lmao even
Choo choo! @northropgrumman We've shipped the twin solid rocket booster segments for @NASA's Artemis III mission to Kennedy Space Center from our world-class propulsion manufacturing facility in Utah to support America's next step in returning humanity to the Moon.
>>16993742 I think this was always the most important set of numbers in the past few years. 10 Starshit (forma de V3) launches will be the equivalent of 200 F9 launches in terms of eventual Starlink revenue. I am really curious about the internal cost of current V2 sats and V3 sats, though.
SpaceX's deeper plans might see $300+B revenue per year in 2030, 4 years from now. Most of it will just be Starlink and AI. Rocket business is only going to be ~$8B/y in 2030
>>16993967 Not necessarily, if the satellites are operated and/or owned by the government customer. Then SpaceX is selling a hardware product, not a connectivity service.
"Space enabled solutions" seems like pretty much a catch-all term for anything that involves a rocket
https://x.com/Arianespace/status/2062566689108086932 >For the first time, Ariane 64 will fly with four P160C boosters. +1 meter longer than P120C,156 tonnes of propellant. The most powerful Ariane 6 configuration ever launched.
>>16993952 old man yells at cloud genuinely, what do you expect SpaceX to do? they already control the launch market for the most part, they acknowledged years ago that it doesn't have the carrying capacity to expand as aggressively as they want. that's why Starlink exists, it's a way to leverage launch to actually provide value rather than passively hoping it comes by somehow. AI is the same thing.
>>16993988 kinda not really, it's not profitable but it was already offsetting that with capital raises. both companies are the same in this regard, but the AI side is more extreme
>>16993983 >muh money I bet you think NASA's budget is too big and should be lowered because they don't do anything of """"value"""" hey, mind posting your nose real quick?
Did this hit anyone else here who's on spitter? There's apparently a massive false ban-wave of "suspected bots" happening right now and I just got caught up in it, hope I get my account back...
>>16994001 NASA has to be paid by the government because its purpose is to do things that don't have market value. that's the whole reason taxes exist, to extract bypass the market in the extraction of value.
>>16994007 It seems to be slapping everyone who likes "too many" posts without posting enough themselves. I have absolutely no idea or point of reference for how much is too much or too little.
>>16993999 It's effectively a limit order. The limit price can be updated if needed but I have the funds to buy significantly more than that if I decide to.
>>16994001 NASA isn't a commercial business, so value in their case is not the same. >hey, mind posting your nose real quick? Isaacman was born on February 11, 1983, at Overlook Hospital in Summit, New Jersey, to Donald and Sandra Marie Isaacman.[13][14] He is the youngest of four children and is of Jewish descent.
>>16994014 If you're in good shape for it, good on ya. I just know that this is a lot of Babby's First IPO, mine included, so I'm trying to make sure everyone's looking out for surprises.
>>16994003 >>16994011 same thing happened to me my first appeal was apparently denied because I was able to make a second one (the queue stopped it before), very little hope I get my account back at this point. really gay, I never post but I use likes to guide my algorithm now I can't
>>16994020 >my first appeal was apparently denied because I was able to make a second one (the queue stopped it before) I tried I think I'm in the queue still hopefully, no email or anything since that "inauthentic behavior" one
>but I use likes to guide my algorithm now I can't DUDE SAME lol
>>16994021 no not yet, and apparently it doesn't matter cause its suspending people with blue checks too
>>16994029 >SpaceX IPO Could Trigger $30 Trillion Worth Of 401(k), Retirement Money To Buy SPCX Basically all the indexes have waived their rules so SPCX can be included which triggers automatic buying from retirement funds.
>>16994032 it would trigger buying eventually anyway the problem some people have with this is that they don't think there is enough time for real price discovery i.e. the retirement funds will buy it at overvalued prices
>>16994036 >boomers all lose their retirement savings >forced to sell their second and third homes >housing prices crash as the market is flooded >young white families are able to afford homes again >white birthrates skyrocket I should have never doubted you, Elon-sama
https://x.com/Vincent_Ledvina/status/2062581716972421162 >AURORA ALERT: a strong solar storm could bring the northern lights to much of the U.S. tonight (Thursday, June 4). NOAA has issued a G3 ("strong") geomagnetic storm watch for June 4 into June 5. If it pans out, the aurora may be visible across the northern states and into the central U.S., with a small chance even farther south during brief bursts called substorms.
>What's happening: an active sunspot region called AR 4455 fired off several CMEs (giant clouds of solar plasma) on June 3, including ones tied to an M9.5, M7.8, and an X1 flare. At least three are aimed our way and may arrive together. NOAA expects the first impact around midday Thursday (18 UT or about 2 PM Eastern, 1 PM Central, 11 AM Pacific), while NASA's model leans to the evening and another (HUXt) pushes it into the early hours of June 5. It's a wide window, so watch tonight into early Friday.
>How strong: NOAA's official forecast is G3 (Kp 7), but a lot depends on whether we take a direct hit or a glancing blow, so it could land higher or lower. Don't put too much stock in pinpoint Kp numbers or app forecasts days out. Space weather is hard to predict and the storm will evolve on its own. Treat them as a sign activity may be enhanced, not a guarantee.
>How to catch it: get away from city lights, find a clear view to the north, and look during the darkest part of the night. Watch for substorms when the sky can go from dark to full of color in just a few minutes. Two things working against us: clouds (even thin, high clouds can mute the show) and a bright ~80%-lit moon that rises around local midnight. Your best window is the dark gap after dusk and before the moon comes up.
>The map shows roughly how far south the aurora might reach tonight. Forecasts like this don't always come true, so keep your hopes up but your expectations realistic.
https://x.com/ryanhallyall/status/2062577131629011049 >Here's where we will likely have the best sky viewing conditions tonight, if you're looking for northern lights.
>>16994111 >strap a wild seal down and force it to listen to contrived nonsense >wait for it to behave abnormally >claim the abnormal behavior is from the sound >not the fact it was restrained by humans based seal for refusing to play along
>>16994114 Cool, before it was just about space exploration, now it's cosmic super intelligence too. Imagine the TAM of colonizing the galaxy, all galaxies, all multiverses. You'd be a fool not to invest.
>>16993678 Starship can't really send anything farther than LEO. If you have 20t that needs to get to Mars orbit it's not getting there on starship. Unless maybe they start integrating 3rd stages into the payload itself but that incurs a cost
>>16994203 To be fair New Glenn can't launch Blue Moon Mk2 to the Moon in one launch either, but it's a rocket where launching a lander and a tanker and having them dock in NRHO (Blue's HLS architecture) is actually feasible.
You aren't getting a multi launch SLS mission which requires launching a fully fueled Blue Moon Mk2 and it can't do it.
>Super heavy booster 20 has rolled out of megabay 1 today for the first time ahead of transport later tonight to Starbase Massey's test site for initial cryo proof testing. This will be the booster for Starship test flight 13. https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2062674192399581659
>>16994211 >Just as B20 was rolling out, 3 Raptors, 2 sea level and 1 vacuum engine, were spotted going into Mega Bay 2 so Ship 40 should be preparing to do a static fire soon.
>>16994217 Yes, for like a year as Donny T was going back and forth on whether to make him administrator. Before the election cycle he was more focused on training and PR for polaris and insp4 and such. And before that he was presumably just consumed with gaining his billion$ with shift4
no way they are going to keep calling them Ship <number>. they really going to be like "Starbase, Ship 420 has landed." when the first people set foot on mars.
>>16994108 >1.375 TB daily Is the DSN even remotely ready for this or do they have another line of communication? Even if that's just what the telescope processes and not what's sent out that's gotta be a shitload of data to downlink.
https://x.com/ryanhallyall/status/2062686762418180398 >Heads up northern and central US, the aurora could show up tonight. We started quiet at Kp 1 but the forecast surges to Kp 7 (G3) overnight. Naked eye possible as far south as 40N, cameras down to 37N, best near midnight. Get away from city lights and look low to the north.
>>16993611 >way more delta V than starship In practice it won't. There will be multiple full tankers in multiple orbits at all times to tap off from. I would expect spacex to be able to sell fuel or oxygen to BO or any other customer.
>>16993763 >amazon barely turns a profit either, do you question how valuable it is? they reinvest everything. > >as a corporation your main imperative is to turn every profitable function of your business into capex and expand. in SpaceX's case they need more than that, which is why it's IPOing at all, but yeah that's how things work I wonder how much longer this debt based growth will survive into the future.
>>16994269 at this point we have to stop thinking of spacex as a rocket launching company and more like google/alphabet, but instead of for the tech industry, its for the space industry
>https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/documents/indexnews/announcements/20260604-1483731/1483731_spdji-us-indices-megacaps-results-20260604.pdf S&P isn't going through with the rule change to accommodate
>>16994282 If you need to play with earthers and not with the other autists on base. Then it is a normie game. The people that would choose to work for the SpaceX mining colony will probably make nukes that have been on sub deployment for 9 months look like well adjusted people
>>16994319 Neuralink has progressed about as far as the boring co. They don't understand anything about the brain that isn't already known, and are just providing upgraded versions of tech that has already been demonstrated (crude sight restoration/moving a mouse cursor)
>>16994230 they'll get the same names as container ships on earth do. for the LEO focused ones anyway. the ones adapted for beyond LEO missions will have more exploratory names.
>>16993997 The three segments are connectivity, space and AI. The connectivity segment is making significantly more profit than what the space segment is losing due to Starship R&D. So the difference goes to the AI segment.
Also, the profitable connectivity segment is essentially being put in the role of collateral when issuing or refinancing debt used to fund the AI segment, and the connectivity/space segments are being used to attract equity investors into the combined entity. That capital-raising potential could have been used to raise capital for space related stuff instead.
>>16993763 >as a corporation your main imperative is to turn every profitable function of your business into capex and expand. No, it isn't. Investment is only warranted if there are good investment opportunities that the company is better positioned to exploit than other companies are. Otherwise, the company is supposed to give the surplus to shareholders.
Or... if the CEO is a relentless empire-builder whose top priority is to expand the particular business empire that he personally runs.
>>16994022 SpaceX is a legitimate company with legitimate products and legitimate plans, but the valuation, fast index inclusion and lowered float requirement is a massive scam being perpetrated on savers
https://x.com/JeffBezos/status/2062615731158523935 >One week later, incredible progress. It’s a 24/7 operation with a solid path forward to launch this year, helped by a lot of luck. @NASA and @USSpaceForce have both been extremely helpful. >This team. Never tell them the odds.
>>16994380 >crew 3 announcement >spacex ipo >korean launch from an ocean platform, chinese launch from an ocean platform, japanese launch, fucking indian launch its gonna be an interesting week
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2062820842606584043 >Super heavy booster 20 rolling out to Starbase Massey's test site tonight for initial cryo proof testing in preparation for Starship test flight 13. >6/5/26
>>16994378 I've been wondering where the 8A has been. The last three launches have all been standard LM-8s.
I'm also not sure how they can "cease production," since the LM-8 is just a LM-7 first stage with only half the standard boosters with a LM-3B/7A third stage stuck on top, and none of those models are going out of service.
>>16994373 idk why everyone is panicking about exit liquidity. Most of the current (as of today) holders of stock are employees who, obviously as people that actually wanted to work at SpaceX, believe in the mission and would continue to hold
>>16994472 steel allows a lower total weight for a reusable second stage that needs to survive orbital re-entry, starship would be heavier if they made it out of aluminium. the price of RP-1 and the engine coking would make cheap reusability impossible, and hydrogen doesn't have the TWR nor density nor on-orbit longevity.
>>16994468 >>16994469 It would be fine if there wasn't the XAI boondoggle. Worst case is Starship development+frequency allocations made SpaceX break even. The IPO is primarily CapEx fundraising.
>Movies The Right Stuff Apollo 11 Apollo 13 The Martian ? 2001: A Space Odyssey Moon zero 2 - Featured on MST3K lmao. Ad Astra ? Alien Event Horizon Solaris (1972) sunshine (not the second half) Contact Interstellar Starship troopers ? Moon DUNC ? Mission to Mars Total Recall (1990) ? Dark Star October Sky Titan AE Treasure Planet Space Cowboys First men in the Moon
>Tv Shows Planetes Cowboy Bebop Space Brothers Moonlight Mile Orbital Children For All Mankind ? Expanse Rocket girls ? Irina: The Vampire Cosmonaut ? Crest of the Stars ? Earth to the Moon
>Books (Fiction and Non-fiction) Rendezvous with Rama - Arthur C. Clarke Larry Niven's Beowulf Shaeffer short stories. The Chanur Novels by C.J. Cherryh The Expanse The New Case for Mars The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
>Vidya Kerbal Space Program Children of a Dead Earth Space Station 13/14 Moonbase Alpha Aurora 4x Freespace 2 Deepspace Emporium
>>16994497 >Crest of the Stars ? idk why everyone thinks its good. its boring shit that veers off course real quick.
and where are the classics like stargate, star trek, babylon 5? i think natgeo's mars tv series should be considered too, most especially the first season. its the most realistic look at mars colonization that we've had.
>>16994509 >its boring shit that veers off course real quick. Wdym? The story is pretty consistent: an interstellar war between large empires largely witnessed through the lives of two minor participants. I like Lafiel but i like massive fleet engagements with thousands of spacetime mines even more.
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2062884633432457672 >Possible blueprints of the CZ-9 assembly factory has published on the Hainan gov' website. The factory has 100k m2 with a 85m tall gate. Through the blue print, we can peek some specs of the CZ-9. 10m diameter , has a 3 stages variant, fairings is huge with a diameter of 16m.
CZ-9 design just got updated (again) and the fairing is absurd.
>>16994523 https://x.com/NASASpox/status/2062886271064633576 >The Zvezda service module transfer tunnel, known as PrK, has suffered from cracks and leaks for some time, and has been mitigated by Roscosmos as much as possible to date. The cracks have always been a concern that NASA watches very closely. NASA and Roscosmos have been working to determine the root cause of the cracks, and Roscosmos manages the issue through operational mitigation measures and periodic partial-repair efforts.Following new leaks, Roscosmos has elected to proceed with a more extensive repair operation on Friday, June 5. Out of an abundance of caution, NASA has directed all four of the agency's SpaceX Crew-12 members and NASA astronaut Chris Williams to assume an elevated safety posture in the Dragon spacecraft while the repair is underway.We continue to work with our Russian counterparts, along with the rest of the international community that supports the space station, to arrive at a more permanent resolution.
https://x.com/tobyliiiiiiiiii/status/2062891019574689904 >China wants to build a Long March 9 variant, their super-heavy lift rocket, with a 16m diameter fairing. This is what it would look like compared to Starship, New Glenn. Insanity.
>>16994497 >>Tv Shows add: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Race_(TV_series) >docudrama series first shown in Britain on BBC2 between 14 September and 5 October 2005, chronicling the major events and characters in the American/Soviet space race up to the first landing of a man on the Moon. It focuses on Sergei Korolev, the Soviet chief rocket designer, and Wernher von Braun, his American counterpart. The series was a joint effort between British, German, American and Russian production teams.
>>16994525 https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/2062907170165788922 >Following a brief period sheltering within the Dragon Freedom spacecraft, Mission Control Center at the Johnson Space Center says the four members of the SpaceX Crew-12 mission and NASA astronaut Chris Williams are clear to exit the "safe haven" configuration.
>"Our Russian colleagues have elected to perform measurements only today."
>>16994547 https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/2062896676122071181 >It'd be interesting to find out what the "more extensive" repair operation involves, to the point that the Crew-12 astronauts need to be (I assume) "inside" Dragon and ready to undock in the event those repairs...well, it wouldn't be good for anyone, not least the Cosmonauts conducting the repairs.
https://x.com/joroulette/status/2062908932578795933 >The Russians are attempting to saw off a hinge of some compartment where they believe they can access the crack that's leaking air, according to a NASA official.
>>16994503 >>16994507 >"le fug you Neil Armstrong" >"I've got a hole in my suit, I can fly around like Marvel's Iron Man™!" >"Play that disco meme music!" >"I'm gonna have to science le shit out of it" >"le pirate ninja" >"Please explain basic physics to me, magical negro. I'm only the director of NASA so you'll have to use layman's terms"
https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/2062917869457772798 >MOSCOW, June 5. /TASS/. Specialists discovered two air leaks in the Zvezda module of the Russian segment of the ISS during pressurization of the module's transfer chamber to ISS pressure. Roscosmos informed journalists of this.
>"While pressurizing the Zvezda module's transfer chamber (TMC) to International Space Station (ISS) pressure, specialists from the ISS Russian Segment's main operations team detected a leak in the TMC. During an inspection of the TMC, the cosmonauts discovered two potential air leaks," the statement reads.
>It is noted that there is no threat to the safety of the crew or the ISS onboard systems. One leak site was quickly sealed with a layer of the two-component sealant "Germetal-1." The second potential leak site is located on the conical portion of the transfer chamber, and preparations for sealing are currently underway.
>>16994575 I think it has more to do with it being a module that was construed around 40 years ago being maintained by a country whose priorities are elsewhere
>>16994587 Yes the originals have degraded, they have added new ones to compensate including recently-added roll out ones that are way lighter and smaller profile and generate way more electricity due to panel advancements since the 90s/00s
>>16994587 Yeah, a few years ago they installed new panels called iROSA over the old ones, they rolled out from a scroll configuration. Dragon brought them up in the trunk.
>>16994587 They are bolting new ones on top of the old ones. Despite being much smaller, the new ones provide as much power as the old ones did when they were new. The uncovered sections of the old ones continue to produce some power.
>(Bloomberg) -- Underwriters on SpaceX’s $75 billion initial public offering have been told not to accept orders from investors in Hong Kong and China, citing US restrictions around the export of critical technology, people with knowledge of the matter said. >SpaceX’s website was inaccessible from Hong Kong and Shanghai on Friday, with attempts to do so resulting in an error message that said the company had banned access from Internet addresses from those locations.
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/2062931832748822993 >Atlas V is getting ready -- for the ninth time -- to deliver for Amazon! From launching the early Protoflight test spacecraft to the first batches of production satellites, United Launch Alliance continues to be a trusted partner in helping the Amazon Leo constellation connect the world. Today, we began the launch campaign for the next mission that will launch an additional 29 satellites in July!
>>16994617 >>Atlas V is getting ready -- for the ninth time were the previous 8 times just a warm up or something? why cant it do it the first time like everyone else?
>>16994507 >noooooo you're supposed to hate uplifting, solutions-based thinking >act like a cynical nigger instead that's so much more based! redditor calling others reddit lmao.
>>16994698 no, but considering all of colossus 1 is already rented out, renting it out to someone else doesn't make any sense and SpaceX doesn't have substantial datacenters other than colossus 1 and 2 at this point (at least on this scale)
>>16994711 because otherwise there's little point to the test flight other than confirming that starship can still fly and that the door still works. Or do you disagree that spacex would like to know the effects a full payload has on the rocket?
>>16994714 you're pulling that assertion from absolutely nowhere, no the test was not to test full payload, there were a lot of things tested like the new engines, upgraded tiles, upgraded heat shielding placement in general, new attachment methods, new dispenser system, max payload was never on the list
>>16994676 because they were going to paint the TPS white and blue and designed the livery around that but then they decided not to and left the rest of the livery as is.
>>16994716 sounds like cope to me >hey we made this giant fucking rocket but we're not gonna actually test it in real world conditions because lol lmao but of course v4 will fix this
>>16994753 same reason why it didn't 11 flights later. because it's an deeply flawed design incapable of ever meeting its targeted specs. Next question. >>16994754 goalpost_moving.jpeg now answer the question: why would they not test the full capabilities of their rocket in a test flight meant to test the full capabilities of their rocket?
>>16994755 >same reason why it didn't 11 flights later actually I think the dynamics changed somewhat >why would they not test the full capabilities of their rocket in a test flight meant to test the full capabilities of their rocket? you made this up on your own, the "full capabilities of the rocket" are not being tested, there are multiple rockets in various stages of assembly waiting after that one that will all be incremental upgrades on one another
>>16994805 I’m still undecided on whether or not this is an ultimate good. The optimist says this scales starship and in-space manufacturing to perhaps one or two whole orders of magnitude. I just hope there are minimal strings attached. Law of equivalent exchange means there could be unintended fools that want to maliciously decelerate, or a shift away from mars colonization to prioritize other objectives
https://x.com/dpoddolphinpro/status/2063042682809729528 >Amazon Leo has been granted an extension to their deployment timeline requirements, to maintain priority on their comms bands."Amazon Leo has represented that it will fail to meet the 50% milestone required in section 25.164(b)(1) of the Commission’s rules.", said the FCC. Previously, Leo was required to have launched 50% of their 3,232 first gen sats (1,618) by July 30, 2026. To date, they've launched just over 300. Leo still must deploy 100% of the constellation by July 30, 2029.
>>16994891 There wasn't ever any real chance of it not being extended. Amazon's done a good job ramping up hardware production while ULA shit the bed. Amazon isn't to blame for Vulcan's launch cadence problems and after ordering 10 more Falcon 9 launches they're clearly doing everything they can to mitigate the issue, even if its not that much.
>>16994756 >you made this up on your own yes, obviously? Is using logic and established historical facts to form an opinion on modern events such a big deal to you? >the "full capabilities of the rocket" are not being tested and why not? It would cost comparatively little and allow to gather additional data, thus reducing the total number of tests. What are they scared of? >>16994781 take your lithium, muskrat >>16994786 you do need to do it to confirm that there isn't a hidden failure mode. Consider if spacex decided to skip engine relight because "it's trivial, we can do it later and we know that it works theoretically". Nonsensical and goes against the basics of Starship's design philosophy.
>>16994945 >and why not? It would cost comparatively little and allow to gather additional data, thus reducing the total number of tests. What are they scared of? because they know how to put things into orbit, that is not what they need to solve they are going straight for reusability and putting things into orbit while still iterating on the components quickly would mean a failure in testing would be much more harmful in orbit than in a suborbital trajectory which would mean they couldn't really do the testing as rapidly, because they would have to make sure things don't go wrong reducing the number of tests is not the objective here, getting to a fully reusable system that is reliable as quickly as possible is the objective, whether that takes 10 tests or 1000 tests
>>16994945 >yes, obviously? if you admit that everything you're saying is a hallucination and has nothing to do with SpaceX's intentions then there's really no point in arguing it >why aren't they doing the thing I decided they should do? I am way smarter than all of SpaceX's engineers ok bru
>>16994949 explain engine relight tests then. They're irrelevant for reusability and were done to prove that starship could enter orbit. And they cost two tests. Goes against the whole "focus on reusability" shtick, right? perfecting the heat shield and reusability would do nothing to make starship orbit-worthy. Additional tests would then have to be done to establish that and fix any potential failures that crop up. >but spacex knows how to put stuff into orbit flights 7 and 8 beg to differ >>16994951 >logic and facts are hallucinations lol >SpaceX's intentions presumably are to develop a rapidly reusable super heavy launch vehicle as fast as possible as the other anon said. In that case, what you are suggesting they are doing goes against their own intentions. >why aren't they doing the thing I decided they should do? the point, my dear retarded muskrat friend, is that spacex IS doing what I am talking about. The last flight carried as much payload as v3 could manage. Feel free to screencap this and call me a retarded EDS if I get proven wrong later on.
>>16994955 what is there to explain? the engines need to be tested in orbit as well (and there is other things they need to test in orbit), they test them when its convenient and thats why they have skipped them many times
>>16994955 >The last flight carried as much payload as v3 could manage this is the crux of the entire argument and it's a complete hallucination derived from nothing >bbbut facts and logic!!!!??????)!?? you admitted that your "logical" starting point was made up. you haven't referenced a single actual fact this entire time, you barely know anything you just wait for people to supply it to you just to say "nuh uh"
>>16994959 >and there is other things they need to test in orbit one of those is the ability to put a full payload into (pseudo)orbit and test the effects it has on rocket dynamics. They will have to do it at some point, there is no logical reason not to do it as early as possible. >they test them when its convenient and thats why they have skipped them many times they have tried to test engine relight in every single flight since IFT-6 the only times when they "skipped" it was when starship did a RUD or the engines failed. >>16994960 >t-there's no facts!!! no logic!!!1!1! shut up eds! see >>16994749 history and logic are on my side. For some reason this makes you seethe. do you think I can call Elon and ask him if the stats he provides are true or """optimistic""" estimates meant to bait investors? No, and if you can, feel free to do it. >you barely know anything elaborate. I'd like to know what I don't know.
>>16994965 the logical reason is that they want to get to full reusability first, putting things into orbit would not help with that and would be pointless if the mechanism and whatever has to be changed due to not being the right solution for full and rapid reusability you seem to have a really hard time comprehending this really simple concept
>>16994965 >elaborate you showed that you have no clue what's actually being evaluated on test launches you've shown no understanding of the basic fact that a testing regime can exist between paper and a finalized vehicle you clearly don't understand that starship isn't at a finalized state because it completely nullifies the "logic" behind absolutely everything you've said you don't even understand the simple physical reality that they know the payload capacity to a given orbit just by looking at flight metrics because that's how rockets work. the marginal extra information you get by loading X mass is too detailed to be useful on a test vehicle that's going to be superceded in the very next launch
>>16994966 >there's no need for rapid all-up iterative development >let's do slow stage-by-stage development instead do you even double read your own posts bro? >>16994967 >you showed that you have no clue what's actually being evaluated on test launches so what is being evaluated then if not the core design of the rocket? The kino factor? Do tell me. >you've shown no understanding of the basic fact that a testing regime can exist between paper and a finalized vehicle I understand it and it has no effect on this discussion. >you clearly don't understand that starship isn't at a finalized state lmao what made you think that? >you don't even understand the simple physical reality that they know the payload capacity to a given orbit just by looking at flight metrics this isn't at all what the discussion is about. Reread it again. Calmly.
>>16994971 i already answered the first question but you were too high to follow, retard >oh no I definitely understand all of those things even though everything I'm saying betrays the fact that I don't I'm calling this here because it's blatantly obvious that you're twigging
>>16994971 if you think iterative development means doing everything simultaneously at all times, then you never got it look at the algorithm again they do the engine tests if the situation allows, but it isn't a priority