>>97387443
If you don't purpose build terrain for each game, you never beat the game.

>>97387482
Mostly true, but also if you built a nice set of "European Countryside in Summer" terrain it works with 90% of games you will ever play, and then you can custom make a few specialty pieces for individual games

>Does terrain plays an important role in your games or you use whatever table and makeshift available to build it?
Yes, both.

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>>97387443
I think terrain is extremely important but don't have the time or patiences right now to make full fledge battlefields with unique terrain for scenarios and all that. But terrain and painted miniatures (even poorly painted) make the game 100% more enjoyable.

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What the hell happened to this? I thought it was supposed to come out last year, then it was delayed till this year but there's no date in sight
Also for some reason they are already selling minis, but not the full range, in combination to the Gundam card game?? What is going on

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>>97387443

>TQ

Yes, it's an important part for immersion and for influencing actual gameplay.
I've mostly built it myself. I'd like to make a few more pieces, especially watery pieces like creeks, ponds or bogs. Any tips on making those?

>>97387843
it was always gonna be 2026
they wanted to have their cake and eat it by selling deluxe starter decks with figures but not competing with themselves by dropping a gundam tcg and miniature game at the same time

its getting demos at events mid February

>>97388528
Water is tricky because every single person does it differently.
I've tried lots of methods but the easiest and best looking is to paint the water on and then use glossy modpodge painted on top of the water to give it a wet shimmery look. Don't bother messing around with two part epoxy resins, it's very expensive and hard to do well.

I found Asymmetric Warfare but it seems a little small in scale. Is there bigger stuff?

>>97388860
Bigger stuff of what?

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>>97387443
How's the new edition of Conquest First Blood looking? I've always liked the aesthetic and sculpts for Conquest but I hate the idea of rank and flank on 38mm scale with about ten different models, it's just a little silly. Seems like First Blood fixes that problem for me.

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>>97387443
>Bauhaus Hussars
Warzone Resurrection was fucking KINO

>Does terrain plays an important role in your games or you use whatever table and makeshift available to build it?
Terrain makes a big difference in games, but I don't go all in with bushes and hedgerows etc
>Pic rel
Warzone Mutant Chronicles 1st edition with what we consider to be the perfect amount of terrain.

>>97389576
They'll be showing off the new rules in February. But historically, First Blood has always lagged significantly behind Last Argument in terms of resources and attention from both the company and the community. While I'm hopeful the new version is decent and turns things around for First Blood, I'm not holding my breath until I see the actual rules.

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This guy with missile shoulder pads rocks, it's apparently from the books.

Fresh AMA here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z21oYva4rLc

>>97390278
Shit I forgot the AMA was today. Thanks for posting.

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Thinking about 5 leagues from the borderlands
Rate my map

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>>97390635
Doesn't make much sense geographically

>>97390732
the mountains going perpendicular of the coast is weird but a river ending in a swamp delta seems right

>>97390732
The real world doesn't make sense geographically.

>>97390790
Most retard post of 2026 so far

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>>97390922
Newfag.

>>97390775
Depends how "dense" they are
The Alps are pretty straight too

>>97390775
Just exist on two fault lines? Doesn't the north part of the Sierra Nevada range go perpendicular to the coast?

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There are a lot of terrain pieces that are neta and if you want to win the high level tournaments you must counter play them or play them

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>>97391722
Like the phone booth is so used and strong that is banned in silver format.
And may be restricted once is liberated

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>>97391735
So then you just play the sentinel head and it denies shape change, so the booth gets pointless

>>97391722
no one gives a fuck about your capeshit normie tournament slop

>>97388860
AW is an amazing game. No one can help you if you don't actually tell us how "big" you're looking to play

What happened to WGA’s Damned models? It’s been over two years

>>97392422
11 sets all done, shipping to backers first

https://wargamesatlantic.com/pages/release-schedule

I've got some sci-fi buildings and scatter terrain I want to finally get painted, anyone have any tips?

>>97387443
>TQ
I honestly find it more important than the minis themselves. I reached the point of buying two FDM printers so I can go with whatever terrain I wish.

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>>97388528
Best budget rivers ive seen is taking a bit of blue fabric
>add layer of PVA
>add layer of plastic sheet (like plastic bags)
>add layer of PVA
>add layer of plastic
>etc
You can slightly twist and pinch the plastic for ripples and flow effects.
Pic slightly related but you can do a single sheet with fabric banks and then put coloured fabric underneath to change the water as needed.

>>97392502
paint them

>>97392422
>swindled by Tony Reidy again

>>97390953
This is an incredibly reddit coded image and anyone who posts it is a midwit unwilling to learn anything outside of meme images.

>>97394023
>brings up reddit out of nowhere.
Go back and never return.

>>97394043
You're being bait, Anon. He just done raped a (You) out of you.

>>97390201
The first edition was definitely massively undercooked and basically billed as a tutorial sub-game that you can play while putting together an army for LAOK

>>97390278
damn those sculpts are sexy as hell

>>97394043
No sorry I'm tired of midwit humor. "HURRR DURR IRL GEOGRAPHY IS NONSENSICAL DONT I LOOK SMART" is dumbing everyone down to the level of children.

>>97394206
It's the joke, you idiot.

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>160 euro terran and zerg starter 1k points each
>with terrain
>with table mat
>markers and rulers
>even dice
>naked protoss starter 1k for 99 euro
>with none of the mentioned
man the khaalafags are getting assfucked even if you get free shipping

>>97394239
You know what you probably think 67 is the funniest shit ever so I'm gonna drop the conversation.

>>97394239
>posts on reddit shit
>gets mad when people make fun of you

>>97394247
>Archon Studios
Nothing against them just a little worried

>>97394247
Everyone is getting assfucked with those wannabe GW prices.

>>97394247
Funny considering they said in the Q&A that Protoss are the best beginner faction

>>97394335
surely blizzard can yank their chain if they will try something fucky wucky
>>97394339
oh from the viewpoint of more niche games sure it's almost/gw like pricing and somehow still feels like a smaller dildo than the one you get from GW trying even for their boxed sets

>>97394360
>smaller dildo
Maybe you're okay with that, but I don't accept any dildos up my ass anon

>>97394339
>>97394360
Looking at other awg companies of comparable sculpt quality outside of the historical scene it's not that bad imo

>>97392502
What's it look like? Could prime it grey, black wash, white drybrush, pick out details to taste, maybe some kind of grime/streaking, two coats of matte varnish.

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>>97394247
Damn that's a big ass box and models look a lot better than I expected. I used to like Starcraft, I might buy something but I really hope they make Warcraft wargame, I would collect every army for sure.

>>97394499
Warcraft is ded.

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>>97388698

>the easiest and best looking is to paint the water on and then use glossy modpodge painted on top of the water to give it a wet shimmery look

This excellent advice deserves to be repeated. A rough brush on of dark blue paint, followed by a brush of mod podge will get closer to pic related than anything you do with resin

>>97394499
there's a lot of good systems that could work for wc depending on the scale you want.
if you're looking for models you could just rip game models and print them.

>>97394808
>you could just rip game models and print them.
Could you? Even if you could rip the raw models, more often than not they're not something you could just print and use.

>>97394808
>if you're looking for models you could just rip game models and print them.
I can see Warcraft 3 models work in something like 15mm
WoW models wouldn't look good in any form desu

>>97394478
Speaking of, anyone got any good brutalist building tutorials? I have some assembled MDF buildings sitting in a box since half a forever.

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Cool

>>97394335
Their Kings of War kits are good and they fulfilled my He-man pledge with no problems.

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>>97387680
Does anyone know of some archer miniatures that would go along with these Nasier models? Planning to use them in Kings of War but the original model range never included any archers.

>>97394438
That's the problem with /awg/ companies, they are always trying to be GW or tap into the GW fan base, and that is why historical companies always reign supreme, have more SOVL, and for many they make more money. Look at Perry Miniatures, their skirmish in a box has way more miniatures than the StarCraft one, and the box is £30.

>>97392128
Funny that you call it normies shit, even when not even normies give a shit about it.
But is fine, I come here so you can bully me because I know the position this game is.
It may give you joy to point and laugh at me, while what ever you play comes on top

>>97395991
How are your hands feeling today?

>>97394380
You're missing out.

>>97394499
>I really hope they make Warcraft wargame
They said that if Star Craft does really well, that idea is definitely on the table.

>>97394247
>limited to pre-orders
They arent even trying to make a playable game lmao

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>>97396385
They are already scalping the game anon

>>97396385
>He doesn't know

>>97394478
>What's it look like?
This is one of the buildings:
https://www.bplaser.com/BUILDING_01/p1860720_8681020.aspx

All the scatter terrain is from the same company.

>>97389576
The new rules with the Confrontation esque dice system look cool from what little they've shown of it. They said that all models, including ones that couldn't be used earlier like the fallen divinity will be usable now which will be nice. As that other anon said the hope is that they can keep it up to date and balance and overhaul things like they've done with Conquest TLAOK.

>>97390278
my word. I was skeptical up to this point, but that is one nice mini

>>97396069
For now, they are fine

>>97396435
Promo miniatures are going to be sold later, this Zeratul is not limited

>>97396271
Well then I better buy some Protussy, I want plastic Horde and Alliance models so bad, especially seeing their quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4cm7wXV9qo

Archon grew up so fast, can't even make fun of them for Prodos stuff anymore.

>>97397821
That doesn't change the fact that people are buying it at 2-3 times its retail price in between periods of availability

>>97396069
Kek I knew it was him too just by the autistic and whiny ESL writing

>>97387443
I recently came across those Warzone Mutant Chronicles minis, and I love their style. Is anyone out there preserving them? I know there are a few companies still selling them, but it looks like they’re just selling off old stock; is anyone casting them to preserve the sculpts and create new minis?

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>>97398095
Warzone Resurrection is dead, what product exists is all that exists. Some can still be found on Ebay, but pickings are slim.
Mutant Chronicles Warzone (first and second edition) can still be purchased through Prince August, but they don't have the full range, but they've got more than enough to play.
Warzone Eternal is the newest iteration of the game and can be purchased via Trenchworx, but you'll be buying a Snaptray. A Snaptray is a 3d print that hasn't been removed from its supports.

Personally, I believe that first edition is the best edition, I play it all the time. You can find rules etc here https://www.mutantpedia.com/eng/Warzone.html

>>97395656
Can't argue with historicals being better value. I'm loving the Pillage stuff from Victrix lately

>>97394360
>surely blizzard can yank their chain if they will try something fucky wucky
Blizzard is the one that gets fucky wucky these days.

>>97394360
Dildos are toys specifically designed to make people feel good.

>>97396069
Are there like 5 of us on here with arthritis? What gives?

Anyone have Osprey Hide, stone and bone yet?

Can someone with a facebook grab the rules from the Dimensional Warfare: Tactics/Skirmish rules from the facebook group of the same name?
I'd do it, but FB now requires video proof of personhood, and I'm not doing that.
Thanks.

>>97398137
SnapTray is actually a really simple but smart idea. Overcome the problem of shipping fragile models by spending a penny in print material to create a frame to hold everything in place and supports to keep from being crushed. The one I ordered from them was smartly designed.

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The clear plastic isn't as invasive as I thought it was on the unpainted models. Still needs a wash, though.

>>97399422
>What gives?
Old age is a bitch, anon.

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>>97400894
>>97399422
At 33 I'm terrified of losing my near sight and having hand impairments

>>97400913
>>97400894
Lol I mentioned having arthritis once and like three people jumped on me like this an ongoing thing and I thought there might be a backstory.

>>97399483
And what would I gain from this transaction, hm?

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>>97400913
You shouldn't get arthritis in your 30s unless you get a serious injury. In fact you shouldn't get arthritis anywhere until your late 70s if you take care of your health and body. You see a lot of fat slobs getting arthritis in their 30s and 40s because they have kept their bodies in a permanent state of inflammation their entire adult lives due to inactivity and stuffing themselves with industrial goyslop.

>>97399483
>I'd do it, but FB now requires video proof of personhood, and I'm not doing that.
Palantir has been alerted and is sending a drone to your location.

>>97401819
Oh no, I don't mean in my 30s, I just want to be able to wargame until I'm worm food

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>>97401819
Long thin necks are my weakness, I want to suck their necks like a vampire

>>97396565
what should I know?

>>97396565
What should I know?

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Still hoping I can get some people locally to play Dragon Rampant or SAGA but it seems like One Page Rules has the generic fantasy crew locked down.

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>>97402410
Painted guys so far. Once I finish painting everything I've assembled I'll buy some mounted knights.

>>97402410
>OPR
Many such cases. It really is a shame that when people try to leave the 40k plantation they always fall into the most 40k adjacent game they can find. It's like an addiction, they don't really want to quit or get help

>>97402432
Yeah. I looked into it and managed to build these guys into a Chivalrous Kingdoms list with the web army builder, but it really is just too close to Warhammer for what I want.

Anyway, what should I paint today? The rest of the footmen, or start on the light horsemen? I'm leaving the mammoth for last.

>>97402432
It's AA. That is a massive boon from 40ks igougo (an archaic holdover from whfb, where igougo is sctually fun) and a key departure go say its not the most 40k adjacent.
I'm not shitting on igougo over all, but it's ONLY fun in rank and flank

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I'll probably pirate it when it comes out to check out the campaign system but are there any recommended prehistoric games to scratch my caveman itch?

>>97402459
OPR isn't even good AA with fun mechanics, it's the most bland and lazy form of AA possible, "I move one guy, you move one guy, I move one guy, you move one guy" like nigga this sounds like it was written by young boys in the schoolyard

>>97402532
>One Guy
Are you trying to play OPR using the Skirmish game mechanics? You move entire units, simple as.

>>97402410
>>97402419
>>97402439

Paint the horsemen. Where are you located?

>>97401909
Worst case scenario you can just drybrush everything to hell.

>>97402532
>>97402564

NTA, I think the point he is trying to make is that OPR handled activations in a boring way. No reactions, push-your-luck or command friction.

>>97402597
New Mexico. So the odds of you being anywhere near me are sadly low.

Gonna go prime the horsemen now.

>>97402468
Paleo Diet by Ganesha Games is pretty fun.

>>97402616

Very unfortunate, I'm in Poland. I've thought of getting those WGA serjeants, I've liked how they designed those horses to have reins as separate pieces.

>>97402564
Get tested for Aspergers

>>97402659
what city?

>>97402603
OP here, I get that opr can be barebones but that wasnt my argument. My point was that its not 40k. And frankly that makes it better than 40k by default

With that said I am looking for fun skirmish games. Right now 5 leauges looks cool as a solo

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>>97402791
New Mexico guy here: I've gotten into Greathelm, it's a new one that just did a kickstarter. Gimmick is teams of six minis fighting in a tiny play area the size of an A4 sheet of paper. Gotten a couple games in, it's fun.

>>97399716
>The one I ordered from them was smartly designed.
Glad to hear it, but it's stupid expensive to get minis shipped to the UK so I shan't partake of this edition. Also, I think the unit stats are diverse enough to make a fun game.

>>97400241
I like the fact that the neural chord things are optional depending on what part of the timeline your Toss are from.

>>97402832
How was the December update (#14)?? I haven't bothered to look yet.

>>97402870
I didn't actually back the kickstarter, grabbed the rulebook from Malev's patreon, so I'm not sure.

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>>97396637
Yeah, the grey, wash, drybrush, grime will work fine on those. I recommend enamel spray primer since it gets better coverage on absorbent materials like mdf in less coats. You can also sponge/smack a brush onto walls for some quick color and leave the trim grey. Spraying another color at a slight downward angle onto the grey (top two thirdsish) can give it some nice color prretty quick.
>>97394953
https://brutalcities.com/blogs/tabletop-terrain-tips-techniques-tutorials/painting-concrete-wargaming-terrain-tutorial-without-an-airbrush
Brutal Cities has a tutorial for it.

>>97402884
Fair enough then.

I'm trying to make a wargame to play with my son, he's only 4 so not really old enough to play HeroQuest and stuff yet.
What do you think are some of the absolute simplest mechanics for a wargame? I'm thinking it should be played on hexes because counting hexing for morement is easier to understand than measuring. For combat I'm thinking both playera roll one single dice each, the higher score wins. Different strength models will use different dice to swing the roll in their favor, ie. a goblin rolls a d4, a hero rolls a d10, etc.

That's basically the entire game, simple movement, simple combat resolution. Thoughts?

>>97400913
I can't feel my hands (numbness, loss of fine motor control, intermittent tremors) but you learn to deal with it. A mini painting handle/grip so I don't drop the mini, an airbrush for as much as I can and dry brushing+edge highlighting are pretty forgiving. Ultra fine details like eyes can be a pain but if I brace against something it's manageable. Despite being pretty debilitating I hide it well enough, people just think I'm clumsy sometimes or an idiot because I can't tie my shoes or buckle my seat belt without looking at it and laser focus
Your body will break down and you can still do the things you enjoy

>>97402902
When I was that age, my brother and I had some army men and grabbed my mom's sewing mat (with a 1" square grid) and constructed rules about how they could move. Combat was resolved with shooting rubber bands from above the models. Could be your best bet.

>>97402920
I played the same way except we threw a marble back and forth until we knocked down all the opponents models first

>>97402918
How did that happen?

>>97402729
nta, Gliwice.

>>97402432
Or because it's $1000+ USD to field a 2k point army and US bankruptcy rates are higher now than they were during the pandemic, highest since the housing market collapse. Warhammer isn't compatible with a recession

>>97402985
Okay but what does that have to do with OPR

>>97402935
Bad luck. Woke up one morning in my twenties and couldn't feel anything from the shoulders down. Random inflammation in the spine while sleeping. Initially misdiagnosed as low electrolytes so I missed the 48h window where anti-inflammatory meds may have done something. 60% of cases have an unknown cause and I'm one of them

>>97402659
>Very unfortunate, I'm in Poland.
Moje kondolencje, anon :)

>>97402432
What's your recommended alternative for fantasy OPR?

>>97403005
Are you fat?

>>97402990
>free
>can use your existing minis from other games
>can buy units at 1/3 the cost of GW
>can buy STLs and print for pennies on the dollar
right now a resin printer costs 10% more than a combat patrol

>>97403015
Nope and it's not listed as a cause or comorbidity

>>97403040
That's an absolutely insane statistic to someone who doesn't keep up with Games Workshop's output. Is that a workable army or just a portion of one?

>>97402729
>>97402966

Near Katowice. There's a gaming store in Chorzów which also has gaming tables. Seems like they're mostly focused on GW stuff and konflikt '47. But i'm pretty sure one can reserve tables there for alternative games.

>>97403005
>>97403046
>unknown cause
Modern medicine kek

>>97403052
A combat patrol is around 500 points of units but if you max it out with addons you can get it up to 800 or 900. They're usually seen as a starter pack and the name of the game mode for 500 point armies is Combat Patrol. The most popular game size and what's used for competitive play is 2000 points. In models alone you can expect to pay 1k USD for a 2000 point army. Not including paint, primer, brushes, glue, etc

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>>97403088
$500-1000+ according to the most reliable source. how shit would the $500 bulk unit army be?

>>97403088
>>97403112
Who the hell is getting into 40k these days is what I want to know, because it sure as hell isn't schoolboys anymore. Really unfortunate that the main entry point for young people in the hobby has decided to switch its target audience to 'the kids who grew up and got jobs'

>>97403123
Turns out 20-somethings and 30-somethings with moderate amounts of disposable income are a great market. Who knew?

>>97403060
Wait what? Since when there is a gaming store in Chorzow? When I was moving abroad the peak was having Mgla, Erpegie and Inny Wymiar in Katowice at the same time.

>>97403131
Of course, but surely someone in their strategy team or whatever it is they do noted that increasing the supply of 20/30 somethings with lots of money requires attracting 10 somethings with not much money.

>>97403142

Its a pretty new place, started maybe in 2024-2025? Haven't had the chance to visit it yet because I haven't had a reason to go to Chorzów lately.

>>97403157
Do you know the name by any chance?
>Haven't had the chance to visit it yet because I haven't had a reason to go to Chorzów lately
How about going there to buy an apartment 14k PLN/m2 built atop burning mine dump?

>>97403184

Klub gier pandemonium, Katowicka 115.

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>>97390635
Making a team for 5LftB with the models and stls I own/have painted
Heres what I got so far. Since the cat and rabbit models are already painted I figure it will be a beastfolk party. "The Animal Crackers"
this will be there theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAmMeAO7Dko

The team:
>Sir Jack Droppole, a catfolk knight who left his order because it was starting to get a bit gnostic-y and that never ends well. He just turned 3 years old and figured hes not getting and younger so he went questing in the east marches looking for loot and food. He tests if he really has 7 lives or not

>Oswald Van Radjish, the brain of the party. A rabbit cleric of great intellect out to stop the brooding madness in the east and find the secrets of the lost Metropol. He gives good counsel that Jack ignores because he doesnt respect the Dutch, and Scroop seldom understands his accent

>Scroop Masher, Frog scout. A skilled hunter and spy. He was evicted from his home from the east swamps and is out to reclaim it with these mammals. Fish out of water type, rather dumb but happy to go with the flow.

>Bertha Ironvulva, the token female(? no one wants to check) gnoll of the party. Just sorta came out of nowhere and started killing stuff for them. Scares the daylights out of Oswald, Sir Jack figures as long she is killing for them its better then being on the otherside of the axe. "Sometimes ignoring the problem is the best way of dealing with it Ossy"

Followers not shown:
Jane and Dick: 2 orphans who Scroop "hired" (kidnapped) after Jack said they should get humans for better ratings. Scroop did not understand humans dont mature until their late teens and figured the were older than most of the party. Jane (14) and her brother Dick (10) think they are the main characters. They will either become heroes or learn the hard way

>>97403149
That sounds an awful lot like next decade GW's problem. Fuck those guys, we're this decade's GW and we need to make the line to up and to the right as much as possible right now.

>>97403360
>three fable-style sapient animals
>one blatant magical realm furfag
Every fucking time.

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>>97403410
really not a waifu I assure you
More a parody of butch lesbians

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>>97403419
>really not a waifu I assure you

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>>97403458
m8 I think at this point you are just projecting. Battleyak does pin ups but this aint one.
I just want to use my cat fallstaff parody

>>97403360
>>97403474
where are the cat n rabbit from?

>>97403531
Cat is from Goon Master
Rabbit is from Bite The Bullet
Both are on MMF

>>97403360
>"Mom can we have redwall?"
>"We have redwall at home"
>Redwall at home

>>97403538
thanks

>>97403184

So, Gliwiceanon, what war/skirmish games are you into?

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Playtest game #4! Vermin Gangs vs Avid Theocracy.

>Avids started strong knocking out a threatening Grizzlies charge turn 1, but the Vermin sniper squad cracked off the Avid commander once they were free from combat, scoring commander kill points to bring the score ahead.

>Turn 2 Pinion Guard removed some backline Slumrunners while the Vermin bikes took control of the center of the board. Shots were traded but not much died.

>Turn 3 activation count of the Vermin dropped heavily, the Avids removed the sniper commander and traded home points with the Vermin.

>Turn 4 scores move back towards even but the last Grizzlies pack catches up to and removes the Avid's heavy mechsuits.

>Turn 5 the only way for Avids to win is to remove the bikes from the center, but without a good melee threat, they have to rely on shots from the battlepriests to force a Panicked check, which the bikes passed thanks to their Leader.

>End score 34-36 Vermin Gangs.

Playtesting is coming along smoothly, still making lots of tweaks to factions mid-game. Next step is to finalize terrain so I dont have to keep using 40k-style L ruins. Haven't come into any game-ending issues yet, which is good. 3'x3' play area for "half-sized" games has been working well, I just got another set of "minis" to test out a full game, gonna try 6x3.

>>97395649
So.w of the old Skorne crossbones from Hordes, maybe? Cheap too now, no doubt.

>>97403790
Terrain looks awful

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>>97395051
I like this lil guy

>>97404245
Agreed, hence why I said I'm making my own. It's what I had on hand and is a rough enough approximation to appropriately playtest with.

>>97401819
Arthritis is genetic if you're an insurance company

>>97402410
Better than nothing

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>>97390953
What did the author mean by this?

>>97404245
And the models are geometric shapes with marker text on and the first word of that post was "playtest" you clown. Is this your first day off /v/? Don't be such a fuckwit.

>>97402889
Thanks anon.

>>97394499
By 2030, once WoW is dead, Archon will start a Warcraft Miniatures game.
And their successful partnership with Blizzard means they'll also have an Overwatch hero skirmish game in the vein of Marvel Crisis Protocol.
And in that time Diablo minis will have been released for a grim and dark RPG.
The Overwatch skirmish game will prove to be popular enough that it will have promotions to let you use your Diablo minis or Starcraft minis or Warcraft hero minis and then it will just be tabletop Heroes of the Storm (RIP)

>>97403790
KYS

>>97404385
>hence why I said
I didn't read anything you wrote after I saw the unpainted 40gay terrain

My poor wallet...
https://youtu.be/2HfOohWzREU?si=s43_cgIIDuH4rfLz

>>97403790
>>>/40k/

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>>97402468
>but are there any recommended prehistoric games to scratch my caveman itch?
Made this a few years back. Here's a mega link to a bunch of reference material I gathered for a project I'm sure I'll get around to finishing some day:
/folder/z8ITXIgC#qbJwn08M1G3WOGu80I4IcQ

>>97405898
>limited to 990"
gonna find 400 of these things in a container on storage wars in 3 years

>>97403790
Sorry, we have a lot of stupid people in here. I hope you keep posting stuff, I'm interested

>>97402856
Being an American and seeing all the stuff from European/UK boutique shops I can't afford to get due to import and shipping, I get it.

>>97405930
>>97402643
Cheers, thank you guys. I'll be ordering my first cavemen today

>>97406061
I'm used to it. I don't like the 40k ruins either, but I'm not a 3d sculptor that can just shit out beautiful hand painted miniatures and terrain for a game that only exists in my personal Drive.

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>>97403790
>>97406549
I don't know what an avid theocracy's minis would look like or how gross you imagine your vermin but one page rules has free paper minis and terrain if you want to add some flair to your game
each faction gets150 pdf pages of paper minis and 23 pages of themed papercraft terrain

I just discovered full spectrum dominance. The minis look great, but is the game any good? I've only ever played 40k and first edition bolt action.

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>my favourite eBay shop for random little miniatures has closed

F

They were called miniaturemen and they sold their own resin Orc Cowboys, but also all sorts of random miniatures second hand for a couple of quid each. I'm actually quite gutted.

https://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Miniaturemen

>>97395649
no but now I need to go find some bows and bash them onto the pelgarth's.
WOK was such a weird game. I really liked it though. ton of unusual mechanics and really willing to throw out all the assumptions and rework skirmish from the ground up.

>>97394831
yeah, it's been done with a lot of game models. they do usually need a small amount of work because vidya models are often not closed solids. but there's tools for that and it's really not that complicated. same level of difficulty as learning to add supports in your slicer; any anon with a working brain could sit down with a tutorial and blender and master it in an hour or two.


>>97394853
a lot of them would work fine. WCs Big Shoulders Big Hands look is driven by the same goal as GWs version: making models easy to identify when viewed from above. that'd translate to tabletop fine.
WC3 models probably wouldn't work even at 15mm though. that was still an era when most of the visual detail was in the textures (they're VERY low poly). you'd have to use WoW stuff. that said once you have the models you can obviously combine and rescale them to your heart's content.

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>>97407132
>you'd have to use WoW stuff
yeah but as I said, WoW stuff doesn't look good, most character models are bad, creatures are usually ok or even good
also WoW has a lot of stuff that's just simple flat plane shapes with textures on like WC3. or it used to, I stopped around WotLK, but I'm sure player character models were or are mostly just fancy helmet/shoulder + texture armor

I think something like pick rel could pass in smaller than 15mm scale. Or just with a little extra detailing work on it then

>>97404712
>GM literally makes the virile giant barbarians live on a yuge fuggen benis
magical realm shit

>>97394831
Its so doable that Blizzard themselves released STLs for the game models from Warcraft Rumble. https://warcraftrumble.blizzard.com/en-us/collection

>>97405911
>/40k/
I have sold old plastic cadians I want to mix up with stargrave scavenger stuff like the arms and rifles but managed to not find any of the sort as images online.
Are the stargrave two handed rifle arms just not compatible with the previous (before current cadians) cadian torsos?

>>97407115
RIP in peace. Maybe someone has bought their molds and the little lads will be up for sale again elsewhere?

>>97407046
Its in the share thread if you know how to find it.
Haven't checked it out yet, there was another anon recently who gave a breakdown of gameplay a bit back.

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FUCK these are sexy

>>97411197
>>97402863

>>97400241
How do you make wash stick to the clear plastic?

>>97411340
From my experience with the beading of washes on diecast cars, a first layer of either acrylic medium or varnish and then the coloured wash

>>97411197
Seeing them painted up has changed my mind about the minis.

>>97411340
Thinned down ink, perhaps?

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Games/armies for this vibe?

>>97411429
Yugioh

Trying to remember a game's name. Fairly recent one, I think it started publishing last year? 3D print models only, no physical available, sci-fi setting, hex bases. I think it was some company that had been doing 3d printing models for a while and they had put out rules and lore for their setting. Larger army sizes?

Can I get the downlow on Firelock 198x?

>>97407161
it'd definitely work for 10mm. wanna do warmaster or hordes of the things with wowcraft armies?

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If I posted a zombie game I wrote, would anyone even bother reading the ~30ish pages of rules in order to give me feedback?

>>97412637
I'm interested, but 30 pages of rules is quite substantial

>>97412637
Sure, but don't forget there's a Amateur Game Design and Homebrew Thread >>97283892, you might get more hits there.

>>97412650
I've formatted the documented so that the rules are presented with bullet points instead of traditional paragraphs. I think its a bit more readable and easier to skim for specific rulings, but it also takes up a lot of space, so the rules are probably even shorter than 30 pages. the document is 50ish pages total but a lot of that is weapons, zombie types, etc.

Anyways I'll do a bit more editing and formatting and just throw it out here at some point.

>>97387443
>TQ
As a Heroscape player, not only does the terrain matter, I have to build it every match. This however, isn't a problem, because a good Heroscape player knows that map building is part of the game and should enjoy it as much as the rest!

Also, question for anons in thread. Do anyone have help me find some minis? You guys post cool ones all the time so I'm hoping you could all source me some cool ones. In particular, I'm looking for floating Swords, Guns, Shields, and Chains, if they're all one style, even better.

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I'm going to say it here. I have this lot to paint for April and I will do it.

>>97414270
Witnessed, I stand ready to taunt you in 3 months time.

>>97414270
What are you gonna do to the car?

>>97411519
Nevermind, found it.
The Promised Land by Solwyte Studios.

>>97411197
> Only three factions
> Mandatory special characters
> Still no info on the rules
Yeah this is fucking gay

>>97416512
trust the plan

>>97400241
It looks like shit when combined with painted models, especially well painted models (and these are well painted).
I'm sure with a slapchop slop job the clear colored plastic looks ok (because the rest looks like trash)

>>97414270
Where do these little green men come from?

>>97416512
Is it mandatory named chars or a mandatory HQ/command guy?

>>97416512
>> Mandatory special characters
Can you elaborate? That sucks if true but I guess the franchise isn't great for /yourdudes/. I wonder if the idea is introducing all the co-op commanders from SC2 as HQ options.

>>97416512
Characters are optional not mandatory.

>>97417055
He is talking out of his ass. Characters unlock their sub-factions like Raynor's Riders etc. but you can play vanilla factions without them.

>>97416512
>proprietary game based off of pop culture video game/movie/TV series
No good game has ever come out of this formula. They're always low effort cash grabs for low IQ normtards, and the people who get excited over them should be looked down upon or mocked

>>97416512
>>97417055
>>97417076
The real question is are special characters going to be so OP as to force you to have them to just compete.

>>97417230
Nobody will know until people start playing, and even then it must be at least few months to judge properly.

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>>97416848
Mammoth miniatures. If you really want some be quick as he is mothballing his casting operations whilst he looks for a new studio. Apparently.

>>97416012
Probably not a whole lot conversion wise, mount a weapon where the searchlight type thing on the roof is

>>97417230
All we know so far is that a character like Raynor isn't going to be akin to Guilliman. He will provide buffs and specific loadout options, but he himself won't be able to tackle squads without friendly support.

>>97417387
>>97414270
ngl they are bit expensive for what they are but very charming
like those rust goblins, I'd gladly put them on a weird sci-fi board

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>>97417432
Eh they're £10 for 5, and his single sculpts are like £2.50-4 for man-sized and slightly larger stuff. He's literally just one guy (who used to post on /tg/) making his own stuff in his own style.

Even Forlorn Hope and em4 are charging £3 per old Grenadier metal these days.

Never mind Ramshackle Games. Curtis bizarrely has single resin miniatures up at like £6 each but you can bundle ten for £45 which is still bloody expensive imho

>>97417506
>our guy
Myself and other anons ITT have had bad experiences with him and never receiving items we have ordered

>>97417512
NTA but can confirm this story. I had to post on the facebook group he runs to get my order shipped. Once he said he shipped it, it turned up on time and I'm very happy with Planet 28 as a rulebook, I'm even going to support the upcoming softback that will have the expansion content rolled into it, but I shouldn't have had to publicly shame him to get my order.

>>97417506
>Eh they're £10 for 5
I could buy a box of 20 something for ~£22
but I'm a poorfag anyway so I'm a bit stingier with prices

>>97417512
>>97417538
Yeah tbqh I've placed three orders over the years, and the two with miniatures took quite a while. I did see on his Instagram he posted his casting list for the day and he was casting stuff ordered like three weeks prior.

My Planet 28 book came rapid though. And now it's OOP

>>97417556
Aye this is true lad. I'm a real stickler for a bargain myself. I actually placed an order with a small UK company who had sci-fi and fantasy metals for £1.20 each last year, and after my order he put his prices up lel

>>97417538
>>97417567
My planet 28 book I ordered 3 years ago never arrived. Messaged and complained and he said he would resend it. Never arrived. Messaged again, no answer

>>97417594
The best I could advise is make a stink on the facebook page or grab it for free from drivethrurpg. Not quite a solution, I understand, but better than nothing? Perhaps.

>>97417428
Sounds like he's going to be like his Heroes of the Storm version. Which feels appropriate. Buff others while providing decent ranged support.
Following that though, Kerrigan will probably be able to dive into the enemy and deal massive damage, but is squishy and will need to be supported or she'll die quickly.
Leaving Artanis to be the tankiest of the bunch able to hold down a front line. Would be great if the could work in his little swap-places ability.

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Do you know what would be cool. The Napoleonic Wars, but with some fantasy technology like hot air balloons/blimps and alchemy. No stupid magic or goblins and dragons and shit

>>97419139
And fat tiddy werewolf women, yeah I get what you’re saying.

>>97419139
>fantasy technology like hot air balloons
One of the Montgolfier brothers lived to see the Napoleonic wars.

>>97419139
>>97419386
Okay but seriously, why were hot air balloons not used for war in the Napoleonic period?

>>97419453
Probably a similar reason as to why Pauly's cartridge system didn't get picked up for their military arms: Too new and unproven for military minds of the time.

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>>97419453
They pop. Also they're pretty beholden to the weather, and not actually super reliable even when the weather is nice.

The Munchkins in Wars of Ozz do have an aerostat corps though.

>>97419453
Because Napoleonic artillerymen were very professional and gunnery was very advanced, a single cannon crew would shoot the balloon first try

>>97419453
they were, although only in the 1790s
also used a fair bit more in the american civil war although that's a bit later
>>97419474
also trying to mass produce it and the ammo would have been extraordinarily expensive

>>97419139
Napoleonic Weird War is a pretty cool spin on the idea. I guess maybe the problem is that the older guys who tend to be into the period are less likely to be interested in those kinds of elements?

Have any of you tried the OPR necromunda alternative (FireFight Gang Wars) ?
If yes, what was your experience with it?

>>97420996
I've tried the grim dark firefight (mechanically the same thing at least a couple of years ago). Fun enough to have a couple of games during a Barbecue but not deep enough to make it my main game.
Just having 2 stats well (4 movement and wounds but hidden under universal special rules) makes you wish the game was a little bit more complex since you are dealing with characters and not entire units like in the other OPR games.

>>97421296
Hmm i'll try bare firefight to see how i like it then, thanks anon.
Something else you would recommend?

>>97421382
At least when I played it we went for 400. It recommend 300. (No idea how much is recommended now) We did that because otherwise the teams had super boring compositions.
For example a leader unit could buy some skill and a weapon, but that ended costing like almost 100 points so everything else end being super cheap or basic or if you avoid the special rule the teams end being super similar. With the game only having 2 stats even less difference between teams does not help.
In the bigger games is not a big issue since you have enough units to see some difference, but here usually you only see 10 models between the two players in theory the max is 20, but that would required both players going for the cheapest thing possible
Also bring different list, games tend to be super short and fast.
If you can print the stat cards even better they usually fit in a single page.
Side note all OPR games are almost the same, the quest, warmaster and space ship games are the actually different ones. You can play with fantasy or sci fi version against each other with no real issues.

>>97421296
>makes you wish the game was a little bit more complex
The classic OPR problem. Instead of doing too much, do too little

>>97391722
Nice. But seeing the 3D minis on the mock-up kinda repels me to invest into Heroclix.

>>97421576
The 2 stat system is fine for bigger games that want to be like warhammer fantasy/AoS or 40k, but copy pasting it for a way smaller skirmish game does not work.
I do admit the wound system is kind of fun

Can anyone hand me the pdf of This is not a test 2nd edition? Could not find anywhere

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kinda cool

>>97421790
>in hard plastic
Noice. Have they made any other accessories sprues like this?

>>97421790
>That'll be $40 please

>>97411608
Platoon and company scale Cold War warfare in a low-magic fantasy setting, with alternating unit activations, and a focus on sight and spotting mechanics. This video is a pretty good overview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aY0O2rdkx4

Everything is free on their itch.io page https://drekfortmdc.itch.io/firelock-198x-09-public . There's an official TTS module, and the game is designed to be playable with printed standees and construction paper terrain.

>>97422229
But if you buy ten sets, the cost will go down to $34 per set.

>>97422396
Huh, funky, gonna have to give this a proper look. Thanks anon/

What the fuck happened to /hwg/, are jannies really letting that general go to shit because orange man bad?

>>97422559
Let them all self delete and ignore.

>>97422229
I hate that gw makes lower prices always look more reasonable but really is it a bad deal? Especially for someone with no space for a 3d printer and wash and curing station?

>>97422693
It's quite premium at the very least seeing as most people get their kitbashing bits from random sprues they didn't use or a communal box at an FLGS

>>97422693
>is $40 for a few bits a bad deal
Lol

>>97422214
They made an 'animal bits' one, which is a bunch of bones and antlers and such. They're all pretty large (definitely AT LEAST 32mm, and then most of the animals were probably super duper dire versions of the real thing).
But if you need a ton of antlers, it's bretty gud.

>>97422844
Could be good for mutations or wild forest bases.

>>97422229
>he isn't buying a single sprue for $5 off ebay if he wants it
I guess if you're going really hard on frostgrave or wizard fetishtry you could need 330 vaguely wizard flavored knick knacks.

>>97414270
Noted, good luck anon.

>>97422396
setting looks very cool, I remember some years ago anon posting it here, think it was it's creator
but the gameplay? I haven't played such, well, wargame looking wargame before
how convoluted are the rules?

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>>97421588
Would be much better if they were like this instead?

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>>97411608
If you like Advance Wars you will like Firelock simply for the aesthetics.

>>97423626
Rules aren't that hard at all. The biggest thing is that the phases are ordered so that shooting happens before movement and there's a few token systems to manage like Command Points and Pin/Ammo but overall you have maybe a couple dozen units max to manage if you're going with cheap stuff so its not hard to keep track of. I have a friend who likes OPR because its simple and he likes Firelock.

>>97423718
I really do like Advance Wars...

>>97423901
If you like Advance Wars but Werewolves are using Wire guided missiles and the elves are Skynet Terminators you'll like Firelock

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>>97423945
Forgot my image

>>97423945
Can I get a tldr on how it plays? I'll have to play hardball with my homies to make a game like this fly.

>>97423974
There's prebuilt armies in the core rulebook and if they've played Bolt Action/Warhammer a lot of the mechanics will click.

>>97423988
I never got around to playing Bolt Action, but I've skimmed the rulebook and it seemed reasonable enough.

>>97424000
This game has alternating actions so you take turns shooting for example in the shooting phase. I find that makes it easier for people to handle than 40k because tabling is basically impossible.

>>97424016
Yeah at this point I think I'm gonna have a read at the rulebook, that will give me something to do tomorrow morning. Thanks for your input homie.

>>97411608
RYGONET IS DEAD
THE PETTY STATES MUST FALL
WELCOME COMMANDER

>>97421702
>>97421576
Isnt OPR more focused on keyword modifiers to differentiate units other than having too many stats?

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>>97407115
If I were a warhams nob I would combine these with feral orks

>>97403566
I have dwarf army from warhammer, generic arabs, Some miscelenous warbands and I am currently working on 300+ minis for a greek-persian wars.
Basically I am into anything I just like making stuff.

>>97427360

Very cool, I've also plenty of fantasy and historical figures. Do you also have sci-fi miniatures?

>>97403006

Dziękuję za kondolencje, ale lubię mieszać w Polscem

>>97424119
The game comes with a few scenarios to help learn the rules, in the appendix of the main rulebook. I've found those, especially the first one, helpful for teaching/learning

>>97427422
>Do you also have sci-fi miniatures?
Some battletech and a few 2nd ed Eldar.

>>97422559
You can more or less post about whatever where ever. Quality doesn't appear to be a concern as much as quantity.

>>97427479

Ok. If you're interested maybe meeting for a game (I think pandemonium in Chorzów seems like a potential spot), please drop an email at oprmikolow@protonmail.com.

>>97427422
ja też, ale dlatego też współczuję :P

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Does anyone has a size comparison of WA's Boxers and Great Escape's DMH male gunfighters? I would like to buy a box to kitbash bands mainly for LotOW and Dracula's America but I don't know if they're compatible size wise.

>>97423745
well, thanks, I might check it out later
I don't have that much space so I'll have to half all the ranges and base sizes

>>97428731
Why are tehy called Boxers?

>>97429012
Because they engaged in fisticuffs, and boxing was the general term for unarmed combat at the time. They called themselves Yehiquan or the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists.

>>97429095
Should have called themselves "We have Mantigers" you have to lead with the most important things.

>>97429095
I see.
Well, every day's a school day.

I just learned about heroscape (I thought it was heroCLIX) and holy shits it got fantastic factions
The necrotech, the marro, the vipers etc
But from what I get most of those minis are OOP, right?
Anyway does someone know a good AWG battlerep youtube channel?

>>97429555
Yeah Heroacape was what got me into wargaming as a kid. I have both of the master sets, every troops pack they ever released, all sitting in a box collecting dust for the last 20 years.
The minis are so cool, I can't wait til my kids are old enough for me to break them back put again.

Looking for a copy of Five Leagues from the Borderlands if a kind anon has the rules for it.
I'm looking for something co-op to play with a friend and this was suggested. E

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Just at the blutack stage. Gun is one of the heavy weapons from the now em4 Space Rangers

>>97422711
For a few?
The box says 330 bits.
I think 3d printer Etsy services would charge more for a quarter of that amount of bits.
I hope not though.

Mantic is increasing their prices again.

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>>97433597
like how? There are already companies that charge less per metal mini then Mantic charge for plastic.

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Looking at traitors toll. I already own city terrain so I am tempted af.
Looks really fun if a little slow and random. I think it might be a fun game to play with the girlfriend.
Anyone here play it?

>>97422559

Starting a thread with an image of a sitting president's implied threat of annexation was obviously going to lead a thread into political slapfights. Either ot was a deliberate troll job or the OP was a legitimate idiot.

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>>97421790
Its a bit meh items wise. Seems largely stuff that's very easy to make with greenstuff, foil, paper, etc.
Might be more convenient for some I suppose. But it lacks the interesting items I want to root around for as inspiration in a bitz box.
Closest competitor would maybe be Dungeons & Laser's adventure bits, which have a lot more going on comparatively.

>>97423718
>If you like Advance Wars you will like Firelock simply for the aesthetics.

How the fuck is Firelock's aesthetics anything like Advance Wars?

>>97434763
NTA but my guess is that it has small chunky unit art?

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I'm interested in throwing together two forces for Silver Bayonet. What's the cheapest way to go about doing that? I have plenty of monsters, I just need soldiers. 3d prints even seem to be priced a bit high for what I'm looking for.
(Pic is more appropriate for Devilry Afoot, but still)

>>97435331
>£33
>65 troops
>has Spanish regulars, Spanish guerillas, Spanish command and officer, French skirmishers, French grenadiers, French officers, a few French line infantry, three pamphlets showing uniform guides, equipment info, etc.

There isn't a better box for Silver Bayonet than this
Literally everything you need and

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>>97435419
Forgot pic

>>97433409
Who makes the truck? I was looking for vehicles for Necromunda, how tall is it?

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>>97435567
I got it from a UK department store called Boyes. Probably about 3 inches tall max