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>>97445354
TQ: signed up for a Legion tournament but backed out. Pic related

>>97445357
I like the concept of the Starhawk, but I have to say that I personally don't like how it looks. Which sounds stupid, because I don't have anything against Hammerhead-looking starships generally, there's just something about the Starhawk I can't quite reduce into words that makes it ugly to me.

>>97445215
Were the X-Wing/TIE Fighter games not arcadey? Were they closer to Ace Combat-style simucade? They're before my time.

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>>97445406
X-Wing and TIE Fighter were a lot more like actual space sims. A joystick was 100% needed and you were still using the keyboard for a shitload of commands and settings while flying. If you were really lucky you could take a missile to your TIE fighter but you would be severely crippled and need to return to base. Usually being in a crippled TIE meant you had another missile or an X-wing jockey coming in to finish you off before you got to the carrier. You learned to fly erratic, speedmatch your target and keep an eye on your front and rear radar screens at all times.

need me a girl like Danni Quee frfr

>>97445369
>thought about getting back into legion
>realized I have to rebuy all the fucking cards and tokens and shit
No thanks

>>97445783
I'll be damned. I sometimes forget that proper flight sims were once a powerful genre, just like RTS.

>>97445944
X-Wing, TIE Fighter and X-Wing Alliance are pretty cheap on GOG and there are good mods out there to upgrade the graphics. Not really to modern 4KHD but at least to be palatable for modern audiences

>>97445944
There are more flight sim enjoyers now than there ever were. Problem is normgroids polluted the gaming space and multi-billion dollar companies killed all the AA ones that made fun niche games

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Pantorans in Empire service, yay or nay?
She's part of a TIE interceptor garrison on a biomedical research station on a outer rim ice world.
The base is researching the Emperor's Plague anti-human virus under Evir Derricote

>>97446314
No real opinion on pantorans but damn that is that one sexy TIE Interceptor camo scheme.

>>97445215
>Most of us expected a X-Wing/TIE Fighter/X-Wing Alliance style gameplay and instead we got World of Tanks arcade in space.
I really think that a co-op oriented version of this would have been more successful.

>>97446314
Interesting idea could work if this is some imperial remnant who desperate for anyone to join their ranks maybe?

Also made me wonder why the Empire didn't allow more near-human species into their ranks like Thrawn but then again he was allowed in because of palps and he was a skilled tactician. Back on topic, most are near-humans are human enough either with a different skin color or tiny features like ear shape, different facial features or cover in spots for all we know but can still wear a imperial uniform without having to make costly tailored made uniforms and armor to fit different alien physiologies

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>>97446314
Near-Humans should serve in the Imperial forces.

>>97445354
No. Next time pick a TQ that doesn't make me sad.

>>97446314
Pantoran's i'd say would be a maybe. Mostly because the Pantorans seem like the kind who would be like Alderaan in the "We are not Rebels, but we still oppose the Emperor's constant attempts to crack down on planets for having the gaul to "Exist without their citizens being brutally murdered"" Then again, there's always outliers.
>>97447432
Partially agree. I'd say Twi-Leks are probably a no, due to them not being Near-Humans. Near-Humans are those who, with the right make-up could pass for human. Pantorans being a prime example. No way to really cover up the head-tentacles.

>>97446314
Isn't there an option in Star Wars Squadrons to make the player (Titian 3/Flight Baron/Case Kassandora) a Pantoran?

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The Pantoran was a multiplayer skin only
But Lost Stars had a human with green hair, Bertroff Hissa (barely canon, apparently a hybrid) and the green-haired sharp-toothed Imperial from Lop & Ocho.

They probally take any near-human who can fit in a suit, and that probably slants towards very few and hybrids.

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>>97447450
>I'd say Twi-Leks are probably a no
They serve a crucial role as morale boosters.

>>97445369
Why?

During the time of the reign of the Galactic Empire, what thing or things could go wrong in an imperial officer’s career that, rather than fire them, or kill them, or just pretend they don’t exist and let their career rot. They are made a Moff; a Moff of an “armpit of the galaxy, populated by filthy, inbred dirt farmers too stupid to know the difference between Ham Radio and fairy magic”. The idea is that the guy’s own ambitions are turned into a monkey’s paw. His job has become a dead-end because theirs just no position higher to climb to (without risking a charge of treason) but it’s without any of the perks that come with it, he’s still seen as a nobody by his peers, gets few if any accolades by the Empire, and the larger galaxy has never heard of him. Just shoved in the box with the barest of resources and put in the basement, nobody honestly even interested to see if he fails or succeeds.

>>97448782
Retarded nepobaby that did a bunch of petty crimes when he was a teen, but his military parent (or parents) is too politically connected for him to get thrown into the woodchipper that is the imperial army.
Like, if Tarkin had another son whose hobby was going out clubbing, then raping and killing alien chicks he brings home. He's not done anything bad enough to be killed off (without pissing Tarkin off), but he's enough of a stain on the family honour that he needs to be sent away to (hopefully) die or fail badly enough that there's a good excuse to kill him.

>>97448643
Need to brush up more

>>97448782
It could be by choice. Either fatigued or actively avoids politicking and conflict. Get in, get my pension, get out.

>>97445924
Just use tabletop admiral

>>97448989
no better way than playing tbqh

>>97448782
NTA, but do you watch Feral Historian?

>>97449087
That's the plan. Been getting more casual games in.

How much cortosis metal would it take to shut down a lightsaber? I assume a single wire's worth wouldn't do the job, but obviously the energy to mass ratio it can disrupt isn't exactly one of those details any writers laid out.
Similar question for beskar, how little metal would it require to safely block a lightsaber strike or two?

>>97445354
So... what's the deal with Shatterpoint nowadays? Is the game as dead as the retailers make us think it is, or AMG has something up their sleeve? What's next for the game?

Also... they haven't released a Luke Skywalker mini for that illustration, have they? Nor Yoda, nor the Emperor, although it would be the slowest mini there should be in the entire game.

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>>97449502
>they haven't released a Luke mini for that game
The illustration is the same as the Vader and Luke models when they are posed together. There is no Yoda or Sheev though.

>Is the game dead
I think it just depends where you are, its fine where I am, slowed down a bit because of SP being put on the back burner for Legion/MCP but still get new people now and then. Wish we got more, another core set based on OT would be nice, I think alot of people skip if they dont care about TCW anakin/ahsoka/maul/ventress

>>97449561
>>97449502
>what's next
Qui-gon squad which people are excited for, and sequelshit and ahsokashit

>>97449561
>another core set based on OT would be nice
I feel you man. The game is so TCW centric that it even introduced me to the series, too bad the underwater world arc killed my momentum watching it. I'm looking forward the new trilogy models, I guess we're months away to be able to reenact Qui Gon and Obi vs Maul, I don't get why it took so long.

>>97448827
Interesting

>>97449040
Could’ve been, but for what I have in mind no. No absolutely needs to be a curse.

>>97449088
Never heard of him

>>97445354
>Batman vs Robin while Joker watching, only with lightsaberz
fuck all is recycled crap

>>97449890
meds?

>>97449890
>Batman vs Robin while Joker watching, only with lightsaberz

The fuck are you talking about?
That's Mufasa vs the Joker, while King Pellenor watches.

>>97449890
It is CLEARLY Darth Luke battling his rebel clone Luuuke while Emperor Snoke watches

Which starfighters are canonically the fastest, but limiting the selection to just the ship's in X-Wing?

These are the ones I think are the fastest, does anyone know what order they should be in and if there are others to add?

RZ-2 A-Wing, RZ-1 A-Wing, TIE Interceptor, TIE Silencer, E-Wing, Fang Fighter, TIE Defender, TIE Advanced V1, TIE Advanced X1, Naboo N1, TIE Whisper, Droid Tri Fighter, TIE/ba Interceptor, Eta-2

>>97448081
Has there been a “twi’leks are not lewd” meme variant of the “elves are not lewd” meme yet?

Would love me a qt twilek gf to start a family with.

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>/swco/ is back
Well fellas thank you for hosting me in these turbulent years
ventressfag you stay, i go, no following

>>97452994
I was already there

>>97447758
>>97447792
Multi-player let you make a Zeltron TIE pilot, too

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>>97452954
that would be a good drawfag request, anon
don't let your memes be dreams

>>97455553
>image
kek

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>>97445354
What did the human condition mean by this?

>>97453786
Nucanon Zeltron are the opposite of how they were.
Instead of being horny hedonists, they all have enormous self-control from being able to turn their pheremones on/off and know when someone else is doing it.

>>97456374
I like to play the bad guy so others can be the hero they want to be.
That’s probably the case with many people who chose empire. Unless I’m missing some context.
I will admit that I’d trade a comfy powerful empire position for consistent twilek and other hot aylmao sexy times though.

>>97445354
I kinda like the idea of doing an RPG where each member of the party is the captain of their own ship, focusing more on fleet engagements and blockade running than just the usual "You're 5 guys in the Not-Milennium Falcon."

I like the idea of each member of the group managing their ship, as well as sending their own crew on missions between sessions. Spending money on upgrading their crew, buying mission specialists, mercenaries, replacing fighters and repairing the ship rather than just new weapons and personal gear. Every so often, the captains need to come together to lead a ground assault mission and stuff, but the real meat and potatoes is managing your ships, cooperating with each other in fleet actions, managing equipment and trying to stay 1 step ahead of The Empire or Separatists or New Republic, depending on the faction you're playing as.

Has anyone ever tried this? How well does it actually work?

What are the best EU books? Ignoring the Thrawn trilogy and Revenge of the Sith Novelization.

>>97457222
Shatterpoint, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, Bane Trilogy

>>97457297
I should've said excluding Shatterpoint and Bane trilogy as well, but Shadows of Mindor is good? I vaguely recall reading it years ago but I don't remember.

>>97456374
Empire has cooler uniforms. There's a reason why stormtroopers are iconic but the rebel stupid hat brigade aren't.

>>97457563
Why do the bad guys always have the cooler looks anyways?

>>97457586
Good guy mooks are meant to be jobbers so the cool heros can save the day.

>>97457586
They're supposed to look intimidating, which also tends to look cool. The stormtrooper armor is designed to make you see them as faceless, impersonal instruments of the Imperial war machine, rather than individual people that you might feel bad for when they inevitably get killed by the heroes, but that stark monochrome colorscheme and face-concealing helmet design are also really memorable and iconic. Meanwhile the good guys are supposed to look relatable and not too scary, and should have their faces exposed so you can see their expressions and view them as people instead of faceless mooks, but that also means they tend to be stuck with some variety of generic soldier uniform, possibly with a silly hat.
The clone troopers are kind of an exception, but that's because they were supposed to literally be disposable interchangeable mooks, who ended up developing more personality both in- and out of universe.

>>97457608
I agree.
>>97457737
That’s actually a good explanation. Thank you.
>clone troops being disposable mooks developed amazing personalities
I always found that strange that characters intended to be relatable with personalities end up being flatter than wooden planks and yet the ones intended to be disposable mooks ended up having amazing character in writing.
It is kind of like how writers accidentally make the heroes assholes and the characters readers are supposed to dislike likeable.
What causes this and what is the name for this phenomenon if one exists?

The big Star Wars example is that purple haired lady in the last Jedi.
I wonder if Ryan Johnson deliberately wrote her to be a bad example of a leader to see how many idiots would defend her online for him to laugh at.

>>97457480
>Shadows of Mindor is good?
yeah, it has characters from shatterpoint in it as well

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>>97457842
It is pretty much a reverse Streisand effect coupled and/or modulated by the power of memes.
A good example would be Boba Fett vs Phasma vs pic related
>Boba Fett was noname nobody that fans latched on to due to (mostly) his cool armor and demeanor, inflated by much later memes
>Phasma was an attempt to artificially capture lightning in a bottle, that the studio wanted to be loved by fans but fell flat
>TR-8R was a instant fan favorite due to the power of memes and as close to the original Boba Fett archetype we got.

>>97457842
I suspect that with the clones when the writers started doing stories where they had a bigger role than random background soldiers they had to give the main character ones a lot of personality specifically because that was the only way to make them stand out from the literally identical background clones.

>>97457480
Shadows of Mindor is the wrap-up of some of the loose stories from Shatterpoint in a way. It also has a really good description of capital ship combat

>>97457891
>phasma
I hope her actor was paid well for how horribly treated her character was.
The characters in the sequel trilogy were just wasted potential.

>>97457891
This, there is power in simplicity. Also they made Phasma do NOTHING cool, while Boba Fett tracks Han Solo and helps Vader capture him in 5.

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MORE LIKE CAPTAIN PHATASSMA

>>97457222
Darth Plageuis and Darth Bane trilogy

>>97457222
X-Wing series(SOCOM x Top Gun In Space), Lost Tribe of the Sith(short story/novella collection prequel to the Fate of the Jedi books, but it can be read as its own thing - covers origin and development of the titular Tribe as a bunch of starship crash survivors from the Naga Sadow period do Korriban 2: Electric Boogaloo by bamboozling and dominating the alien natives to create a new hybrid dark side culture), and the follow ups to Thrawn & Fate books themselves aren't bad either but you'll have to slog through the Vong(I don't actually mind this and think it's overhated) and Caedus(this is pretty shit though) arcs for them to make sense.

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>>97457297
>>97457869
>>97457908
>>97459223
>>97459512
>point out on the doll where the good books touched you

>>97457193
Sounds interesting. I'd give this kinda game a shot.

Sounds like you'd have to run a lot of consistent NPC's. Each player would need a decently fleshed out second in command and support personel.

Unless you just want to hand wave their crews and treat them as background automatons that always agree with their Captain/The Player.

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>>97459167

>>97457966
It really was a wasted opportunity.
Making her his old commanding officer, now being held responsible for the shit Finn is doing and obsessed with proving herself again by squeezing the life out of him personally would've at least been something of a dynamic between them.
Instead she gets a nice hat and no characterization.

Then again asking for women to have interesting characterization in the sequels is like asking for a blowjob from a Ms World.
You can ask all you like but the chances were slim to begin with.

I'm just finishing up the sith imperial war comics now. The era of Darth krayt and such is really cool to me, even though the ship designs are much worse.

Would any of you kindly point me in another direction for more eras to look into? Still kinda new, but I watched all the clone wars. Looking for comfy media to ride out a cold.

>>97459945
phasma will be my wife

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>>97456374
>>97457563
This. Imps have got the drip.

>>97457608
Bad guy mooks also job, so I'm inclined to think >>97457737 is closer to the mark.

>>97457128
>anon just wants to bring out the best in people
Oddly wholesome reason to turn to the Dark Side.

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>>97459736
Here's my hot take and/or dogshit opinion. Hate it, love it, i don't care.

>>97460946
What's the color legend? Did you only highlight books with any remote worth of reading, or just what you've read yourself?

>>97459736
>no Jedi Apprentice or Jedi Quest
shitty list.

>>97460959
Only the books i've read and/or listened to so far.
Legend:
>dark green - Really good, well worth a read
>light green - pretty good, nothing fancy but a decent read
>yellow - okay read, some slow parts or weird shit to be expected
>orange - could skip unless you really want to read the full story instead of the wookipedia excerpt
>red - nah mate, not worth it
>red and crossed out - NOPE. BURN IT AND BRING ON THE BRAIN BLEACH

>>97457966
Phasma was also missing the most important part of Boba's characterization, which was how Vader interacted with him.

Vader pausing by Boba Fett and saying "No disintegrations" was basically what made the character work. We see a guy who casually strangles his subordinates admonishing this bounty hunter against using excessive force, and just like that, the audience immediately understands that Boba is the baddest motherfucker in the universe.

>>97460333
>>97457966
They should have replaced TR-8R with her at Maz's cantina and had Finn fight her with the lightsaber. Losing because he's not much even when he finds his balls. Han showing up and blasting her with the bowcaster just slows her down. Poe would do a strafing run on her with his X-Wing and she gets buried under rubble, that's the last we see of her until everyone has left and suddenly a silver gauntlet punches out from the debris.
There, you get Phasma a fight scene and have her removed from the situation by a god damned X-Wing which even then doesn't harm her, and you've made her tough and badass and now an intriguing hook that she could survive all that.
Certainly so much better for her than throwing her down a fucking poop chute.

>>97457842
>yet the ones intended to be disposable mooks
>>97457891
>Boba Fett was noname nobody that fans latched on to due to (mostly) his cool armor and demeanour, inflated by much later memes
When there's less concrete details and an aloof air its easier for more people to write their own preferences and depth onto a character compared to having to like whatever a studio comes up with. That there are less details and some hint of depth gives it more flexible appeal. Works for a lot of things. Vague hints, cool appearance, makes people want to know more and fill in ideas on their own that already appeal to them making the character likeable.

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>>97461102
Don't forget, Fett first appeared in the Holiday Special's animated bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsNwP_1kTZQ

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Can a Chiss or Zeltran interbreed with baseline humans? According to the wiki, they diverged somewhat recently and are near-humans. Would they just look like humans?

>>97461137
>the Star Trek-esque opening
>that Heavy Metal-esque animation
This is a fucking trip.

>>97461161
In legends, Thrawn is half human. The first book even mentions that he always wears gloves to cover the fact that his hands have ugly blotches of pink skin, like he's got Vitiligo.

>>97460946
The colours Mason! What do they mean!?

>>97461280
FUCK YOU

>>97461279
Oh cool, thanks. That's kind of what I was hoping for.

>>97461396
He's lying.

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>>97460946
>Truce at Bakura and Courtship
nice

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The ILM documentary’s a surprisingly good watch on top of dispelling a lot of bullshit that eternally permeates star wars discourse, most recently/notably “e-everyone laughed at the Yoda fight!”

Any Saga experts here? Other than the GM saying no, there's not actually anything in the rules preventing a droid from transplanting his processor into a massive combat droid, is there?

>>97460946
>Republic Commando novels
>deep green
You got taste anon. I might not agree with Traviss' on a lot of things but god damned if some parts of those book didn't have me crying like a bitch.
Kal Skirata is best space dad

>>97462521
If i was GMing, that would probably be a character goal/personal story arc but other than that, nope

My problem with Star Wars media these days is that they are all connected with the sequel trilogy that has just been a disaster in my eyes.
Like I’m sure that a lot of canon stuff is good but the mind is clouded with the knowledge that the sequel trilogy I where it leads to.
I can’t even find the sequel trilogy funny. I can do that with the prequel trilogy though.

But in all seriousness I’m sure there some absolute failures in the EU too.

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>flirts with your mechanic
>sweet-talks your copilot
>steals your ship right under your crew's noses
Nothing personal, kid.

>>97462689
Skavak...

>>97462689
but that'd be vinnie. not some retarded zeltron.

>>97462521
IG-88 literally had his whole brain copied because he wanted to be a giant planet killing gun...AKA the death star.

>>97462525
it is her later mandowank faggotry in vong arc that ruined her rep. the RC books are great.

>>97462608
Thanks. Yeah, that's the plan. Should be possible around level 8 - 10, by which time I've hopefully established my character's longing to break free of his decrepit shell. I rolled pretty awful stats.

>>97461137
I didn't appreciate how high budget the animation was compared to tv animations of its era.
>>97461165
>This is a fucking trip.
The whole holiday special is...

>>97459736
I need more anons to highlight this with their ratings

>>97462629
>But in all seriousness I’m sure there some absolute failures in the EU too.
There are, but the difference is that it was mostly random novels and comics that you only knew about if you were a hardcore Star Wars nerd, and were generally easy to ignore. So most of the stupid EU stuff like Palpatine's three-eyed son (no, not Trioculus, he just claimed to be related to Palpatine, but the OTHER three-eyed mutant dude) or Huuts building a wish.com version of the Death Star became fandom memes and in-jokes. Nobody's going to get their knickers in a twist and claim Star Wars is ruined forever because of some random book written for literal first-graders.

Disney meanwhile put their biggest failures into the most prominent places, namely the films and big-budget streaming shows. There's been some good stuff produced under Disney, but it's mostly random novels and comics even most people who consider themselves fans haven't read.

>>97459167
more like captain helped ruin a trilogy by dying

>>97462737
You have to take a special kind of trip to actually enjoy the wookiee segments where they're all growling at each other with no subtitles and it just goes on and on and on. Especially when Chewie's grandpa starts watching his holo porn.

>>97464442
The funny thing is that there was originally supposed to be subtitles, but the TV studio execs went "Oh no, we can't have subtitles because then if somebody tuned in in the middle of the scene they might think this is some kind of art film or foreign move and switch channel!". But seeing a bunch of wookiees growling at each other for 20 minutes with no explanation on what was going on apparently wouldn't get people to switch to another channel.

>>97447792
>Tom Paris, Hero of the Empire

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So, what are some high impact locations my Forceaboo historian character could/would be aware of in the immediate aftermath of Order 66 that would help me preserve knowledge? Ones our party could get to before Vader fucks them up?

The DM has made it perfectly clear that we've got free reign to fuck up the setting regardless of the knock on effects our actions have, so far our group has managed to get a warning to Mustafar a few hours earlier than than the CIS would have known that Sheev has fucked over the Jedi (Courtesy of managing to get our hands on one of his "Join me and there will be more pussy than you can ever imagine" holograms intended for potential-Inquisitors) and they're likely next, allowing several Separatists to bail out before Vader arrived, which is apparently going to drag out the end of the Clone Wars at least a little giving us some wiggle room to work with.

Any ideas? Usually I wouldn't ask but I've intentionally, with DM blessing, maxed out my characters ranks in history and force knowledge, making him the in setting manifestation of having direct Wookiepedia access, on the understanding that the DM can also always go "That's not even a thing in this version of the Star Wars universe, behave."
The more bullshit and shenanigans the better.

>>97456374
I also run rpgs so I need more enemy minis than heroic ones

>>97465733
Get a copy of the list of force sensitive babies in republic space then destroy the original, effectively stopping project harvester until they get the copy off you.

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>>97465733
The game may kinda suck, but this is where Swtor could come in handy. IIRC, there were hidden Jedi Temples on Tython, Alderaan, Illum, Taris, Tatooine, and Ossus, and since you said "Force" historian and not "Jedi", you could try discovering lost and dead worlds filled with Sith temples, like Korriban, Dromund Kaas, Oricon, and the Yavin system.

Alternatively, you can trace Jacen Solo's 5-year journey throughout the galaxy meeting force sensitive cultures before he turned to Caedus.

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>>97465851
Good call, not sure we're going to have the balls to hit the Temple that's for certain, but I'll see if I can figure something out.
Currently we're on Rishi, it's about 2 hours after Order 66 hit, so I don't know if we could even make it there in time.

>>97465854
I'm absolutely, 100% willing to grab Sith shit though it'll be far less useful since getting Sith'd up sounds like a shit time.
We do have a couple of Jedi aboard but they've already been given the "This isn't your Republic of carebears any more, we're the best and possibly last chance you have of preserving anything. Any shitlording about morality and I'm putting you in the gay baby corner." by the teams CIS agent.
Which they've agreed with surprisingly.
On paper at least. We'll see if they stick to it or immediately go Paladinmaxxing the second they see something that makes them sad.

My buddy and I are going to start playing Star Wars Unlimited casually.
What's the current state of things?

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favourite rebel uniform?

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Fuck AMG. Fuck SHITTERpoint.
Bring back X-Wing and Armada.

>>97468484
You should play the fan version of x-wing. X-wing alliance is doing a much better job than AMG ever did

>>97463976
>Huuts building a wish.com version of the Death Star
Was that the one that flooded worlds?
The female jedi main character from that series is probably why I like women with short hair since childhood.
A shame such haircuts often signal that the women have issues.

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>>97468484
Yes.

Is there a repository where I can download all the Star Wars EU comics that are organized in chronological order?
And won’t give my pc a Trojan or a virus or other form of digital aids?

>>97468662
>The female jedi main character from that series
>women with short hair
Whomst?

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>>97468923
Kerra Holt. I had to do some digging. Not really short like Casca from berserk’s hair but counts as short hair in my opinion.

>>97468960
Yeah she cute

On a related not it's probably bad that I see the Legends™ and just sort of identify it as a sort of seal of approval.

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For me, it's the T-Wing

>>97468484
Based but also burn all FFG """wargames""" in a pyre and have someone competent make a simulationist system with no named characters.

>>97460333
That would make the First Order too cool and competent, so they just job and have embarrassing moments on screen while also winning constantly off screen.

>>97468662
Nah, I meant the Darksaber from the novel of the same name. The Hutts wanted their own Death Star, and stole themselves a copy of the original plans for it, but they didn't have the resources of the Empire (and even if they did, they'd just embezzle most of the funds anyway), so they cut corners at every step. They left out everything but the reactor and the superlaser assembly (which is why it's named the Darksaber: it ended up looking kind of like a giant lightsaber handle), sourced their computer systems from some guy who claimed to be a former Imperial general with access to stockpiles of state-of-the-art Imperial tech (he scammed them and sold them computers that were obsolete at the time of the Clone Wars), and had the whole thing put together by a hive-mind of space-monkeys who kept getting distracted and did a terrible job, but presumably accepted payment in space-bananas.
Predictably the first time they tried to fire the superlaser it short-circuited. Then it crashed into an asteroid and exploded.

>>97468620
>still loads of named charactershit
>website gives you the choice to refuse cookies, then immidiately displays a second popup saying they use google trackers and you can't say no to them
Seem like faggots to me.

>>97469600
You say it's stupid and absurd.
But then you look at North Korea and wonder how inaccurate that really is.

>>97460946
Reading through MedStar now. It's excellent.

>>97460946
Courtship is a mess but a good time.

>>97466411
Nobody?

>>97469600
You know, I had heard of the darksaber, and knew a little bit about it.

But I gotta admit, having it all laid out here. I can just imagine the heroes especially Han watching this all unfold before them beg the question “Did we really need to do anything here?”

>>97470654
90% of this general are /tv/ refugees, 9% are ttrpg players and there's 1 legion chad. We don't play card games here

>>97468736
That's how far her fist is going up me.

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>>97469600
Never forgiving the Hutts for what they did to Crix Madine

>>97445354
I don't like that they went from the finite and real feeling Old World to "infinite plains of magic" it just feels shite.

>>97471202
>1 legion chad
I think there might even be three of us.

>>97471202
>We don't play card games here
Man fa/tg/uys are gay nowadays

>>97471846
Card games became too normie, the realm of reddit and discord. We only like incredibly simulationist stuff that nobody plays here

>>97470654
Sorry m8, the card game never really took off here.
I never was into any CCG, so now I'm just sitting here missing XWM adn Armada and hopelessly waiting for more FFG SW RPG.

>>97471978
I mean, I still play Star Wars D6 from WEG, playing cards ain't SOOOO normie, it's just a little normie.

>>97472391
I miss both of those games too anon, I know your pain. I would love a FFG Star Wars LCG though, their LCGs are typically excellent.

>>97471202
there is 3 or 4 legion guys and 3 or so shatterpoint guys you havent been here in a while

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ok nerds(respectfully), i need your help

i need a compiled visual library of rebel ships, crafts, droids and troops, something equivalent to like a compilation of the old cross section books would be fantastic.

im working on a painting project and i dont want to try to sift through still frames from the films or scroll through a whole ass wookiepedia article for each ship and outfit just to get 1 image.

is there such a compilation/library? i dont need imperial or old republic, im just painting rebels.

thankyou

>>97457128
> trade a comfy powerful empire position for consistent twilek and other hot aylmao sexy times though.
I bet there are EU or canon stories about this sort of thing where a cute alien girl seduces an imperial human male.
Now whether it became romantic or was some way of getting critical info for the rebels is beyond me.
It would work on me for sure.

>>97474838
>is there such a compilation/library?
Not to my knowledge, but the ICS books are your best option. They have a variant of that for each movie.

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>>97474877
>cute alien girl seduces an imperial human male
Happens all the time.

>>97474838
try this
https://www.xwaupgrade.com/index.php?action=progress&id=1

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She didn't deserve a bad end.

>>97448782
This is the job you give to someone who fucked up really bad as a way to remove them from the fold. One you either get reassigned into or “”promoted”” into. Its your decision as to what fuck up an admiral or moff might make in order to get such a punishment, considering the empire it may be for something completely unreasonable like showing up a superior who sees you as a potential rival, or not being thorough enough with reprisals against a civilian population. or it could be something like failing to protect an important dockyard from rebel raids just before an imperial advisor showed up for inspection.

>>97476200
A tragedy doesn't have any impact if only shit, meaningless people die in shit, meaningless ways.

>>97476661
damn
you're right though

>>97476608
> considering the empire it may be for something completely unreasonable like showing up a superior who sees you as a potential rival, or not being thorough enough with reprisals against a civilian population. or it could be something like failing to protect an important dockyard from rebel raids just before an imperial advisor showed up for inspection.
-or being creepy and gooning over another Moff’s daughter?

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>>97457193
This sounds dope as fuck, anon. I hope you lean into Hornblower and Aubrey-Maturin for inspiration. That said, you're basically playing 1 on 1 sessions for each player until they come together for a fleet action, so I would suggest bringing the other players in to be the senior staff on each ship. It also seems like it'd be a huge load on the GM to keep everything straight, but you could solve that by rotating GMs and get to play yourself.

All in all, I'd play this game.

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>A Star Wars racer game is in the works
About damn time! The only thing missing is a good open world RPG.
No pods this time but no fucks given (its the intensity that matters).

>>97456374
Fools! Old republic centrists is where its at.

Got this written up as a OC sector of the Galaxy and just want to know what you guys think?

Actually I’m just asking if it all fits snugly enough into canon (and legends) to not clash with any Star Wars lore:

> The Dungeon cluster is a collection of isolated star systems in a poorly charted pocket of wild space somewhere between Empress Teta and korriban and once only accessible by the Daragon Trail. It’s believed the worlds were colonized by escaped slaves Sith Empire. After the Daragon Trail collapsed, the Dungeon Cluster became completely cut off from the larger galaxy, leading to the worlds becoming technologically regressed

> New hyperspace lanes into the Dungeon Cluster would be discovered in 58 BBY by the Trade Federation ship: Sigil, which would continue to periodically journey into the cluster to offload whatever excess cargo didn’t sell in the outer rim. This would change in 30 BBY, when, then under the command of captain Archimonde was involved is a fiasco which saw military forces being sent against the population of several cluster worlds and the entire population of the planet Azeroth being decimated. As this was only 2 years after the Naboo Crisis, the Trade Federation was again under pressure from the galactic senate and general public; trade federation representatives were quick to blame Archimonde (who was conveniently killed on Azeroth) for the whole debacle and the Sigil was reassigned to other trade routes that would put it far away from the cluster, where it disappears from official records.

> Following the Clone Wars and rise of the Galactic Empire, commanders sought to establish a permanent imperial presence within the Dungeon Cluster, appointing the Serenno noble Strahd Von Zarovich as Moff of the cluster (though many suspect the appointment and even sudden interest in the cluster was more as a way to quietly unburden themselves of a now useless and possibly problematic political pawn).

>>97476685
>this is your brain on filonifaggotry

>>97477255
I believe you, but... Examples?

>>97477476
Zygerrians

>>97477138
My favorite Filoni works, Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith.

>>97477734
woooosh

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>>97477476
They look great in metal bikinis, but they need nightly reminders why human high culture is the only choice.

>>97477980
Feel free to explain what Filoni has to do with Mothma’s depiction in three non-Filoni works, unless we’re just calling anything but sucking Gilroy’s cock at all times Filoni worship now.

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>>97476818
I was more thinking that the Party IS the fleet. No 1-on-1 sessions. There'd be plenty of downtime stuff to do, but sessions would be "You are the commanders of a fleet of ships with this being todays objective" with missions like:

>The Empire has blockaded Ryloth, find a chink in the Empires armour and relieve your beleaguered allies.
>A Convoy is moving through an area of space believed to be being watched by Pirates. Decide on what route to take and protect the convoy
>A number of Star Destroyers from Death Squadron were badly damaged in the battle for Hoth and are now moving towards the Imperial Shipyards at Hypori for repairs. Sneak a team onto the ground at Hypori and take control of their Hypervelocity Gun. With that guns help, you should have the firepower necessary to finish off those Star Destroyers. Reinforcements won't be far behind, so remember to pick up your ground team before you leave.
>Intel has found that one of the Empires strip-mining operations is coming to an end. In this operation is a lot of political prisoners and captured Rebels who are being worked to death. As soon as they run out of minerals to mine, the prisoners will probably be executed to cover their tracks. Smash through their defensive network, then deploy ground forces to rescue the prisoners before making your mistake. Fair warning, there's a Star Destroyer close to the operation zone.
>High Command is planning to make a move to capture Sullust, but the defenses are far too heavy. Your job is to launch an assault on the Imperial Shipyards at Malastare, the Sullust fleet is the closest to Malastare, meaning that they will hopefully peel off some of their fleet to chase you down. You don't need to win the battle, just keep their attention so we can liberate Sullust. Sullust is going to be an important stepping stone to an operation that could decide the fate of the galaxy...

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>>97478080
>filoni states he does not like Andor because he is jealous of its success, and he is a petty little faggot who can't accept the fact that his shitty Ahsoka and the abysmal Kenobi were dogshit
>you, the filonifaggot, makes a hypocritical little pic mocking Genevieve O'Reilly's excellent performance in Andor

>>97476874
Works for me.

I would change the name Azeroth tho.

All I can think is Warcraft.

>>97478415
Meds

>>97478471
> I would change the name Azeroth tho.
> All I can think is Warcraft.

That’s fair.
it’s sorta meant to be implied that it IS that Azeroth. that the Warcraft games recount their planet’s history, and the long feud between their two rival communities, one being comprised of the planet’s human, Sakiyan, and Lannik populations. And the other being comprised of its Faleen, Twi’lek, and Gran population and the “burning legion” from Warcraft III is how they perceived the attacking droid army and the chemical, and biological weapons that were used I was on the fence about including Azeroth since its not actually a D&D setting, and that was the whole theme around the dungeon cluster, but I was kinda digging the building narrative and how it explains away why Sigil “disappeared”

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>>97476685
Nah, I never wanted to bite Hilary Clinton's thighs.

>>97479216
Idunno, she was kindof a bad bitch in college, I understand Bill’s fumble.

are there any 15mm minis?

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>>97479216
Anon no, she is a political schemer, spymaster and byzantine plotter against the authorities, not you're waifu.

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How did Emperor Palpatine present himself to the public while he ran the empire in EU vs canon?
Did he try to have a positive public image or just not cared?

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>>97479844
One of the few things from Rebels that I really did like was the idea that Palps would present himself to the public as a kindly old man in white robes, while keeping his cackling Sith Lord persona hidden.
At least until the Death Star was complete and he had the right tool to rule by fear.

>>97478415
Hot damn the TIE strikers look good. I forgot how much I like them. Kinda funny they're literally just the jedi fighters again though.

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>>97477138
She was bad in Rebels too.
>>97478080
>>97478415
They can both suck.
>>97479933
They do seem like a nice take on the legents TIE/gt actually optimized for atmo work (If y'know anything without a particle shield for its wonderful perfect aerodynamics at the push of a button can ever be considered optimized for atmospheric work)

>>97479844
In the old EU He kept himself a bit more mysterious but he was generally unafraid to be menacing.

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>>97479933
>Kinda funny they're literally just the jedi fighters again though.
Not really.
They're way bigger, have a second seat for a dedicated bomberdier/gunner and the solar panel wing things can move.

But yeah I like them a lot. My 2nd most favorite TIE, after the Avenger.

>>97470683

Unfortunatlely as >>97471246 says Crix Madine the literal head of New Republic intel died infiltrating it along with two others. I think this was a mistake writing wise and it should have remained entirely a comedy plot. Daala's invasion of Yavin IV was better for drama.

Also they had the original Death Star's designer (Well a mind transferred clone after Yavin and numerous times during delays on the DS2 Palpatine tortured him to death and transferred his mind and possibly force soul to a clone at the last minute.

He also looks and acts like Rodney Dangerfield. Even leaning to HIS HUTT BOSS and saying he wants to get off Nar Shadaa as quickly as possible because "There's a lotta unsavory characters here."

>There are people who unironically would like to live in the Star Wars universe.

Given all that happens I would want to avoid it.
Unless there is a Star Wars equivalent of Switzerland that manages to avoid all the conflict in both EU and canon. Vong included.

>>97460946
>>97461032

I'd actually rate Children and Darksaber higher
The Crispin and Daley han trilogies MUCH higher.

Black Fleet crisis I am conflicted on, the Luke story you need a specific mindset to enjoy, it's fun spotting moments where he intuits something true about his real mother while on the hunt for the fake one, and it's an interesting look at how the common people of the Galaxy live.

The Lando story is fantastic even if they fail to connect it to the A and B plot very well.

The original character (Ahabat etc) have good arcs and a great look at the New Republic military and politics. Plus K-wing My Beloved

Leia in the first book is treated like "Easily conned naive but well meaning liberal politician from a Tom Clancy knockoff," and then underused in general in the second, and overcompensates in the third.

And the Villains are basically "Imperial Japan plus every bad thing muslims and jews have ever said about each other all in one species" The edgiest thing this side of the Vong, but I quite like them.

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>>97479898
Yeah I liked it too though I found the whole bit with the hologram poorly done in Rebels. You can see posters of Palpatine in the background of Battlefront 2 and Rebels like picrel which reinforce his stately old man image instead of his evil space wizard reality.

>>97480350
>I found the whole bit with the hologram poorly done in Rebels.
I don't disagree. I just meant the concept of having a nice guy public persona.

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>>97480133
It would be fun but only if you were rich, a powerful force user or a cool bounty hunter. For everyone else you are living in poverty and constant misery. Star Trek would be better and far more comfy working and living on a galaxy cruiser ship with your frens

>>97451114
>his rebel clone Luuuke
I still feel like I've been gaslit into thinking Luuke is actually a thing in EU.

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>>97480357
If you ain't a jedi, smugglers, bounty hunter, some rich senate kid or even living on some decent earth like world or outer rim colony living a hard yet decent simple life without having to deal with death stick addicts or the ongoing wars be it the CW or the rebellion your life is going to be shit

>Wanna be a Jedi?, tough shit now get back working in the spice mine!

At least in Star trek you got all you need to live a comfortable life unless the replicator and sonic showers are broken and you dealing with shit like the jem'hadar, klingons or whatever powerful godlike beings of the week showing up to torment you with mindgames out of boredom

Still better than living in star wars though (the older star trek, not whatever the fuck the current star trek is)

So my players in EotE managed to kill a jedi. There was a whole big three-way battle between rebels, imperials and local pirates, and the party managed to barge in at just the right moment to finish off the surviving rebels and the jedi herself. They still fucked up by letting a few ships escape, which displeased the imperial officers who hired them.
Still now I'm left with a few questions
- Who would actually buy a lightsaber? It's such a unique item that you can't just peddle it off to some random guy in a bar, not unless you want to make good money.
- Assuming Imperials aren't just completely stupid, how would they go about disposing of the party since these mercs didn't actually do the job they were hired for? I feel like a failed contract would be a huge hit to their mercenary rep and no direct action would be needed, but maybe some sort of trap or just a bounty on their heads?
- I feel like it's a good place to introduce some sort of nemesis from rebels' side who would be out for party's blood for killing the jedi. Would the vengeful padawan be too much of a stretch or too cliché, given the time period? I want it to be a force user because there a loooong line of dudes with guns waiting to put the party into the ground already.

>>97480350
I think Lost Stars has someone in the crowd in the E6 scene where the Emperor arrives.
And she goes

"Oh yeah, the Emperor is a disfigured old man and everyone knows the propaganda posters are him from the Clone Wars"
But also at that point Palpatine is just so done with a lifetime of governing that he doesn't try and hide he is a Sith Lord. So he radiants the cold sensation of the Dark Side even to normal people.

>>97480418
Not just a thing, a thing from the Thrawn Trilogy

>>97480418
Luuke is real. And he's not even from some obscure novel or comic that everyone ignores, but from the Thrawn trilogy. The same book also has Joruus C'baoth, the clone of a CW-era Jedi master Jorus C'baoth, so I guess adding an extra vowel in the name is just how clones are named in Star Wars (which I suppose means that the clone troopers are all legally named Jaango Fett, and the names like Rex and Cody are just nicknames).
There's also Luuuke Skywalker, the good clone of the evil clone of Luke, but he's from an explicitly non-canon joke comic.

>>97480789
This is so dumb. Was it really that hard to come up with a better name rather than just adding a vowel?

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So, chap whose party managed to get a warning off to the CIS here >>97465733

Our next session started with us going to Kamino because one of the Jedi aboard needs serious medical attention.
And finding the entire 501st and Vader already in orbit there.
So we immediately turned around and snuck the fuck out of dodge.

CIS agent confirmed that for getting that to them? We're all being invited for medals, riches, sloppy kisses from Genosian Queens, basically anything we want.
On the other hand when we returned to Rishi the entire fucking world was on fire because the clones had started shooting each other.
Including the defences in orbit.

Which we suspect might have something to do with the CIS having dropped the recording of Sidious 'Jedi are fags' speech and a statement from the CIS leadership stating that this guy was also backing them with all the proof they could scrape together onto the public airwaves, followed by an accusation that the new Emperor is Sidious.
No proof mind you, he never says "This is Sheev Palpatine, also known as Big-Sids, architect of all the bullshit.", but "Join my Empire" is pretty damning.
And if they've done it on this backwater bumfuck they sure as shit did it on the Core.
So, everyone knows that Sheev is, apparently, behind the entire Clone Wars.

We are now proceeding to get further the fuck out of dodge to a CIS world.
We did argue about using the chaos to go to Coruscant, but we all agreed we likely wouldn't make it in time to change anything one way or the other and it'd get us killed.
I was with the Jedi and up for getting shot at if it meant he got to plunder the Great Temple, but sadly we were overruled by a general consensus of "Lets not say 'Fuck it we ball' until we know what's going on."

It's about 24 hours after Order 66, we're officially outside the realms of canon and into the Hall of the Mountain King.
But hey, next session we'll probably get to sing Dixie's Land at some point.

>>97480830
All this effort, coming up with shit that did not happen.

>>97480850
Just because you don't have games doesn't mean the rest of us don't.

>>97480796
perfectly Star Wars esque naming convention

>>97481224
Proper starwarsy name would be Ekul, Klue, Locke, Uke. Luuke ain't it.

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>>97460946
darksaber is great, same as the new rebellion and the corellion trilogy

i recomend scourge too

>>97481450
None of those are proper starwarsy names.

I have an urge to start a Star Wars cosplay of some sort but i'm a chubby guy. Anyone got any good idea for big/chubby male character to cosplay? Nothing with extra arms since i hate doing prosthetic work.

>>97482651
Wat Tambor

>>97482651
Do this >>97481496
Boba Smalls

>>97480492
The nemesis is the jedi's lover

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>>97482651
The Warlord himself. Or Darth Baras the Wide

>>97481450
If Lukes the Uke, who's the Semi?

>>97482993
>Luke
>Uke
>Semi
Obviously that'd have to be Lsemi.

>>97481496
>darksaber is great
I'll defend a lot of EU stuff, but this book was memorable mostly for its lack of coherency, irrelevance to larger narratives, and utter anticlimax. It's like a deliberately constructed textbook example of how not to write sci fi adventure/intrigue stories.
[Spoiler]
>Discount brand Death Star self-destructs without a fight anyway because it was built as cheaply as possible
>Hutt gangster antagonist doesn't even have a real reason to build the thing (What's he going to do, stick up banks with a Death Star?)
>Important character dies trying to stop construction of a non-viable derivative superweapon the New Republic has already defeated multiple times under more difficult circumstances
>Story is built to convey some sort of aesop about WMD proliferation to non-state actors despite this being nonsensical for something as colossally expensive, overspecialized, and support-dependent as a Death Star; Story actually backs this up by showing it not working at all, countering its own point
[/Spoiler]

>>97480850
You're coming across as more of a no-games. None of that sounded hard to prep or run

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>>97483182
>a non-viable derivative superweapon
Yeah, that and the 'Luke, Leia, Han, Lando, Chewie, R2 and 3po do fucking everything' were the bane of many EU arcs.

I think that is the reason why people liked Thrawn, Mara Jade etc. and a bunch of the characters from video games.

>>97478976
Wut?

>>97484017
I mean it being nonviable was half the fun.

>>97483182
>>Hutt gangster antagonist doesn't even have a real reason to build the thing (What's he going to do, stick up banks with a Death Star?)
Deterrenc, hutts just got their de jure independence back with the fall of the Empire (Arguably they never fully lost their defacto independence) and sometimes extortion.

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>>97482993
Lando

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>>97483182
I am now very curious.
What is the worst piece of Star Wars EU and/or canon media out there?
I’m talking so bad that it cannot be “fixed” with extra media like novels like how the Clone Wars “fixed” the prequels.
>inb4 holiday special
I mean so bad it is largely forgotten and didn’t even get meme status.

I’m talking so bad that if someone says he enjoys it is most likely trolling bait or mental illness. It cannot be enjoyed by people who like seeing bad media to laugh at how bad it is.

Pic related to get attention.
It is Dah’lis Stark a female Nautolan.

>>97480152
I fairly recently red Children of the Jedi, and it's kind of hard book for me to rate, due to the difference in quality of the two plotlines. The Belsavis plot with Han and Leia was good. A decent mystery plot that did keep me interested in finding out what was going on the planet. The Luke plot with the Eye of Palpatine and the brainwashed Gamorreans cosplaying as stormtroopers on the other hand was kind of ass, and felt it dragged on for way too long due to the author having to swap between the plots every other chapter but clearly not having as much material for the Luke plot, so you constantly cut from the actually interesting mystery plot to Luke aimlessly wandering around the corridors of the Eye of Palpatine while suffering from a concussion, all the while a bunch of green pig-men are running around in the background dressed up as stormtroopers.

>>97446314
If Thrawn could get in while having more alien looking pure red eyes, then I don't see a issue with other less alien looking Near-humans joining the Empire as long as they are extremely rare

>>97445400
I used to hate the Starhawk. Looked underpowered and like it was meant to be a smaller ship that it was, but it grew on me with some later depictions that seemed to reflect the scale better. I kinda like that it's ugly because it's a battlecruiser sized ugly.
>>97445357
Being in a hurry to dismantle perfectly serviceable ISDs doesn't sit right with me. Especially not as you said in a vulnerable time for the New Republic. It'd argue that the early days of the New Republic as an established state is it's most dangerous. As a rebellion they held no known territory and nowhere for the Empire to be the ones to pick the fight. Suddenly when they have systems openly declaring for them, they have territory they have to defend. They'd realistically need all the gear they can possibly get their hands on. That said, using ISDs beyond repair makes perfect sense, using the the ones that work until they start needing facilities they probably don't have to further maintain them.

I kind of head canon the Resurgent to be the Imperial Remenant counterpart to the Starhawk. Something large enough to stand up to Starhawks and using largely the same parts as ISDs, the first couple of them being made from scavenging ISDs.

>Tuskan apologia
Is there any position in the entire canon more indefensible? Apart from maybe simping for the Yam'rii?
Seriously I'm trying to think of one and I can't come up with anything.

>>97466411
It's probably my most played card game of the last few years. Easy to play, decently fun and relatively well priced. Can't really complain about it. Don't expect bottomless depth or anything but it'll be fun if you treat it like a casual game played only for fun.

>>97462521
Look at the downloading and restoring memory section of a scavengers guide to droids.

Taking a R2 and putting inside a destroyer is a dc35 use computer and has a chance of reducing the droids int by 1d6 that's separate from all that.

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>>97482751
>Has his own guys
>Acts stupid to distract his enemies
>Has stranglehold over Dathomir and bullies Nightsisters like Grevious
>Pirates connections
>Somehow annexed the Corporate Sector

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>>97486226
we Zsinjpostin now?

>>97484651
The one thing I always imagine when Im watching star wars is sniffing a line of blow from young Carrie Fishers buttcrack edge all the way to the neck.

>>97485486
Dark Nest, just completely worthless outside of Luke and Leia learning about Padme.

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>>97482651
Jabba the Human

>>97485486
Some of Dark Horse's comics were real fucking shit. The ones that immediately come to mind are:
>That one where Leia does a really boring version of Brazil where she goes to the Banking Planet to get a loan for the Rebellion and Vader tries to stop her.
>That one where Qui-Gon tells Obi-Wan that Jedi don't love because one time, a pair of jedi faught over a girl and long story short, the planet exploded. That's not a verbatum, Qui pretty much says "Long story short, the planet blew up"
>That one where Maul and Vader fight and they never really explain why Maul is here with spider-legs beyond "He's back, fuck you" this was before he came back in Clone Wars.
>The one where Boba get's eaten by the Sarlacc for the third time (Second time was in Marvel's comics)
>That weird and awkward Clone Wars comic where Aayla Sakura and Kit-Fisto almost fuck, but then don't. That's it. That's the story
>That other weird Clone Wars comic where there's this super-mega-epicly-hypercompetant-Clone that reads like someone's fanfic who keeps calling Obi-Wan a retard.

Also, shout out to Force Unleashed. Great gameplay. The absolute worst fucking horseshit story ever put into a video game. Starkiller is the most Black-Hole Sue who ever existed.

>>97486226
To this day what impresses me about Zsinj is that he's literally just a very smart fat guy. Not even some strategic mastermind who's always ten steps ahead or tactical genius who's undefeatable, but just a proficient opportunist and a good commander. In a roster of imperial commanders who are either absolute bumbling buffoons or plot-warping galaxy-brained warmasters, Zsinj is unique for not being either.

>>97486491
I am surprised Lucas signed off on TFUs stor

>>97486673
Sometimes, that's all you need to be.

>>97479844
>How did Emperor Palpatine present himself to the public while he ran the empire in EU vs canon?
Old EU didn't go into it a lot. The implication seemed to be that the Empire's leaders like Palpatine and Vader were distant and mysterious rather than figuring prominently in propaganda. Imperial characters tended to focus on the idea of the Empire as an institution rather than the Emperor as a person. It emphasized the notions of peace and order imposed through overwhelming military strength and bureaucracy. It was more like a military junta than a cult of personality built around individuals - at least from the perspective of the public and "little people" within the Imperial hierarchy. The further up people got into the organization, the more they knew about how things really worked (though even people close to the top like Xizor could still deeply misunderstand the nature of the system and motives of its masters since they hid so much).

>>97485902
That's good to hear, we've got the Hoth starter box on the way and from there we'll pick up Starter Decks and Booster Boxes, which seem to be well priced too

Is there some neat side-by-side that shows me ALL of the CW Era Republic ships?
I'm homebrewing a space game.

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What type of campaign would he run /swg/?

>>97487826
>Be me
>Formerly minor warlord of my own little subsector
>Nobody really listens to me, but if they did, it would make me a target for murder, so i don't mind.
>Some 3 eyed asshole puts out a recruitment campaign to join his side.
>Asshole also claims to be Palpy's son.
>What the hell, i join up. Gets me a bunch of systems surrounding my own fiefdom that means i can mostly kick back and relax
>Only proviso on joining? We have to join his Edge of the Empire game
>FML
>Show up. He has fucking salad and nuts as the table snacks.
>Fucking SALAD AND NUTS!
>I show up with my dice, but he calls me a retard and that we have to use the superior Genesys dice.
>Those things look like ass, are expensive and are more confusing than anything, but i decide, what the hell.
>Make a Human Marauder. I kinda am working through some anger issues, so i think a melee fighter will help me work through them.
>Sit down with 5 other jackasses.
>The other warlords are each all suffering from Main Character Syndrome.
>I don't mind that so much, i'm happy to just be the big dumb muscle of the group, but GM has his own plans.
>Most sessions end up with us being the supporting players in the GMPC's story about how his character kills a high ranking New Republic guy and then fucks his wife to add insult to injury.
>It's after the 6th session of me sat there listening to him waxing prose about fucking Senator Solo atop the crashed Milennium Falcon that i decide i've had enough of this.

>>97488124

>Make an excuse to go to the refresher.
>Hop in shuttle
>Defect to the New Republic.
>The Deprogramming therapy isn't so bad. Plus, i didn't commit too many warcrimes (That they know of) so i pretty much get away with it scott free.
>Then comes the real punishment.
>To get a ship of my own, i have to join fucking Borsk Frey'Lya's Force & Destiny game.
>Long story short, it's some shit about a "First Order" relic of the Empire coming back with their super-duper-duper Death Star and the GMPC is Palpy's having a clone granddaughter who murders Senator Solo's pussy Sith Son.
>FML

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we out here doin bad shit nigga

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>>97488129
>Rey is Borsk Fey'lya's DMPC
This makes too much sense

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>>97485486
children of the force

holiday special is okay outside of two or so weird skits like harvey korman slapping his ass

>>97483182
>I'll defend a lot of EU stuff, but this book was memorable mostly for its lack of coherency, irrelevance to larger narratives, and utter anticlimax. It's like a deliberately constructed textbook example of how not to write sci fi adventure/intrigue stories.

Its fun, the beggining with Luke and Han and the tuskens were fun, durga and captain sulumar were good, but the best was Admiral Dalaa and palleon, I loved Luke on hoth vs the wampa in empire desu too, when they are in echo base

Anyone know where I can get some 28mm twi'lek or rodian heads?

>>97484017
This is why I can't entirely hate NJO. It was at least an attempt at doing something new, even if it ended up failing and generally being ass.

>>97490548
> It was at least an attempt at doing something new, even if it ended up failing and generally being ass.
Yeah… with as huge as the Star Wars Galaxy is, having EU writers be obligated to involve the same 7-8 characters in every story was a severe hamstring that held the EU back a lot of times.

Just imagine how much bigger the galaxy would feel.

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>>97486491
did you plat 'last gen' TFU or 'next gen' TFU?
because the ps2 one had a much, much better story, where you keep going back to the jedi temple and the sentinel keeps putting you through the jedi trials and teaching you the whole time, which really sells starkiller turning to the light.

>>97486491
>force unleashed
I read the dark horse comic adaptation of that.
I enjoyed it as a kid. It really was meant for a teenage nerdy audience so for what it is worth I think the writers knew their target demographic well and focused on it instead of trying to appeal to everyone and end up pleasing no one.
I’ll admit the emperor’s shadow guard made me pause when if I recall correctly the metal part of the “lightsaber pike” deflected a lightsaber.
This was before I knew of beskar and such.

Maris Brood is also why I like female Zabrak aylmaos.

>>97476200
Reminder that she may have had consensual sex for the sole purpose of recreation with Darth Caedus/Jacen Solo.

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>>97486491
>Some of Dark Horse's comics were real fucking shit.
Yeah, especially if you don't actually remember them correctly;
>That one where Maul and Vader fight and they never really explain why Maul is here with spider-legs beyond "He's back, fuck you" this was before he came back in Clone Wars.

Unless there's another comic with Vader and Maul fighting that I'm unaware of, then I'm pretty sure you're talking about 'Resurrection' from Star Wars Tales 9, in which case, you're wrong.
>Vader arrives on moon to hunt Rebels
>It's a trap
>The Prophets of the Dark Side think he's too weak to be Palp's apprentice, so they've resurrected Maul, natural legs and all
>They fight
>Maul gets a couple of good its in an brings Vader to the ground
>Moves behind him to kill him and says something like "What could you hate enough to destroy me?"
>Vader says "Myself!" and stabs himself through the chest with his own lightsaber to kill Maul
>The Emperor arrives, kills the Prophets and claims to have nothing to do with any of this
'Resurrection' canon has always been dubious at best.

And I think where you're getting the spider-legs from is that you're getting it mixed up with 'Old Wounds' from Star Wars: Visionaries, which had Maul return with robot legs to get revenge on Obi-wan. Except his robotic legs were the digitigrade/goat-like legs that he later got in Clone Wars (which 'Old Wounds' not only predates, but inspired).
>Owen Lars is doing chores near sunset with you Luke
>Notices something in the distance that's coming in fast
>Has a bad feeling about it
>Tries shooting it
>It dodge
>It get's close and it's revealed it's Maul
>He's here because he's learnt that Obi-wan is protecting the kid here
>Obi-wan is revealed to be near by
>They fight
>Obi-wan get's Maul at his mercy, but hesitates to kill him, because Jedi
>Owen shoots Maul in the head and tells Obi-wan to fuck off.

What was your glup shitto moment?
For me it was when I saw Maul in the clone wars gets bionic legs from the Nightsisters.
I recognized those legs from the sideshow collectibles Maul with those bionic legs. It was a reference to that comic where cyborg maul (EU) fights Obi Wan but gets shot by Luke’s uncle I believe.

>>97491934
NTA, but 'Maul does everything that is not directly linked to Sidious/Dooku'is just the prequel version of 'Luke, Leia, Han, Lando and Chewie do everything'

>>97491934
>It get's close and it's revealed it's Maul
>He's here because he's learnt that Obi-wan is protecting the kid here
>Obi-wan is revealed to be near by
>They fight
>Obi-wan get's Maul at his mercy, but hesitates to kill him, because Jedi
>Owen shoots Maul in the head and tells Obi-wan to fuck off.

I’m just gonna say it: I think rebels went on to do the final confrontation between Maul and Obi-wan better

>>97446314
I could see Near-Humans being allowed, if kept off the main areas. Maybe some better jobs at planetary defense of their systems, unless they have some special abilities that would make them good in specific line of work, like Kiffar with their psychometric abilities being potentially useful for ISB.

>>97491934
>The Prophets of the Dark Side think he's too weak to be Palp's apprentice, so they've resurrected Maul, natural legs and all
The DARK GREETINGS guys? It's always funny when they show up in a supposedly serious context.

DARK GREETINGS
LIGHT FAREWELLS

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>>97445783
>no shields
Fool. A raider always has shields and cortosis. Cad Bane didn't have shields and lost.

>>97492924
One of the Stormtrooper trainers/admins in Nu-Battlefront 2 was a female Aquilish.
I think she just oversaw the program though. She gets evacuated to the FO to do their child soldier stuff.

There was concept art for non-clone alien pilots for the opening Ep3 battle.

So the order of aliens in the Empire goes in my head canon goes:
Can you wear the one-size fits all human-shaped suits?
Y-Military
N-technical service only, which also probably produced some irate Republican pilot veterans who have a reason to join the Rebellion.

Are you human enough for the Stormtrooper Corp to break you down and rebuild you psychologically?
Y-Any
N-Navy and Army only

Are you 100% an alien from the dirt-farming Outer Rim?
Y-Enlisted only
N-Officer level

>>97491338
She probably could have bagged Zekk since he wanted to have a threesome with her and Jaina

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>>97491934
I am continually surprised at how many people tried to salvage the Prophets of the Dark Side of all things from the Jedi Prince series

>>97494060
>Aqualish
What? That one is actually stupid addition, when you think about it.

>>97494133
Honestly the Empire being racist is just silly.
It's already a 1,000 year old conspiracy ran by the worlds biggest bastard that spent his entire life playing chess with the entire galaxy, blows up entire worlds, enslaves and tyrannizes every, ect, ect.
Adding "Also they hate them some fuckin' ET. That fucker can go home in a body bag." is gilding the lilly.
Having them hate/repress specific aliens, those that were in the CIS or joined them would've been subtler.

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>>97494060
>Stormtrooper trainers/admins in Nu-Battlefront 2 was a female Aquilish.
Kinda cute ngl

>>97494234
People just love their Dark Greetings

>>97494551
The Empire being (unofficially)racist makes perfect sense. Authoritarian regimes have always and will always use divide and conquer. So long as you can prevent it from spilling over into full blown civil war, engineering a divided and acrimonious state in those you rule is only a good thing for you as the ruler: bad outcomes of policies can be blamed on existing outcasts and boogymen; racial, ethnic, and religious factionalism allows you to place yourself in the centre managing their relative strength via selective and temporary patronage, tweaking and managing their conflicts to ensure that even if they eventually come to despise you they will always hate someone else just that little bit more; engaging in Tokenism("We can't be racist against aliens, look we have a blue Grand Admiral!") also gives you an additional angle to use in your propaganda - human-majority populations not regularly exposed to the Imperial machine or alien culture can be fed attack lines against any potential rebellious movements painting them as agitators who lie that the Empire is racist as a dishonest smear; on top of that you can use it as a loyalty test - is someone you know from state surveillance doesn't have any problem with aliens willing to performatively shit on them? Then your general level of social control in that society is probably holding nice and strong. If humans on a world ever start bleating about "solidarity" and the like or questioning the narrative that the industrial decline on their world isn't the result of the Moff gifting production contracts to another planet because his buddy is Baron there but rather Ishi-Tib scab labour or whatever, you know it's time to go in and readjust some attitudes.

You're thinking in terms of
>They don't *need* to be that evil, so why would they?
but that's not how fashy leaders think. Everything in their mind is a calculation: will This Thing make it more or less likely that I get dragged out of my palace and strung up?

>>97494551
It makes perfect sense, though.
What matters is that humans in general contributed more for the Republic during Clone Wars, and many non-humans were on the side of the Separatists, so by the end of the war, sentiment would be anti non-human.
Near-Humans could be made acceptable relatively easily, especially when in possession of special skill-set, planetary industrial/mining/farming capabilities, or providing services of high use, while with non-humans, they would need to be visibly contributing before and after the war for the Republic, or be more useful to be kept in the role they have, hence why you could let Khil do most of the planetary defence, as their tradition made them so for millenia, how Empire still let Muuns do most of the Banking Clan activities, and how some species could still maintain their shipyards, as long as they would provide Empire with their warships, while at the same time making civilian products.

>>97494963
>racial, ethnic, and religious factionalism allows you to place yourself in the centre managing their relative strength via selective and temporary patronage
Yes but that's my point. This isn't a situation where they engaged in divide and conquer. They engaged in a situation of "Everyone who isn't a human gets unified into a single faction with a single interest"
Meanwhile having it be 'Us vs the Confederate fucks that betrayed the republic' lets you keep it vague and flexible. Doesn't matter if someone is a Human, a Bothan or a Nemodian, you have that leverage of 'Acting pretty Confederate there bro, you want to go put on your white suit and your big hat and sing about Dixie some more while I go call the authorities?'

Once you define an enemy permanently you have to stick to it, Hitler couldn't have turned around one day and gone "You know what? I've been talking with the Jews and I'm a big enough man to admit, I was wrong.", that shit was entrenched and it was pure ideology, to the point where there's fair arguments to be made that it cost him the war.
Not in the Holocaust either, but in the "All the scientists who might have given Germany the first nuclear bomb bailed because they had funny names that ended in -stein and -scowitzenbaum"

The Emperor would've benefitted more, long term and short, from keeping things amorphous, 1984-style and prompting racial competition rather than entrenching racial supremacy.
"Whose the best Imperial, is it Twi'leks, humans or Bith? Let's find out together boys and girls." is far more subtle and insidious than "Everyone line up, humans on the right hand side, everyone else on the left, it's slur Tuesday."

>>97494580
Wasn't she just a traitor that loved brutalizing abducted prospective child soldiers for money? I never pinged her as believing in the cause beyond saving her own skin.

>>97492561
It's my favorite saber fight in the entirety of Star Wars. Saber fights are best when played for drama, not action.

Okay so after the galactic civil war is over, is there any actual reason NOT to hunt down every imperial officer, murder them AND wipe out their bloodline?

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>>97495970
>hunt down every imperial officer, murder them
I mean it defeats the purpose of being the non-monstrous, legitimate re-installation of the Republic but you can argue that they all know what they signed up for I guess. Very Jewish revenge fantasy here, emphasis on Jewish and fantasy
>AND wipe out their bloodline?
are you being retarded on purpose?

>>97495970
>murder them AND wipe out their bloodline?
Because collective punishment is wrong.
Now engaging in a force sensitive eugenics programme to breed Jedi back into existence, that's on the table.
When you think about it the Jedi are, definitionally, a death cult. They keep taking powerful force sensitives out of the gene pool when they damn well know that it's partially hereditary. The perpetuation of The Force as a genetic concept is being propped up, not by the most virtuous of Jedi, but by the horniest of Sith.

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>dooku was racist
>grievous was racist
>ventress was racist

huh?
not making this up either

>>97496242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th4FMmNQpAk

>>97495084
>They engaged in a situation of "Everyone who isn't a human gets unified into a single faction with a single interest"

Except this whole conversation chain started because of people pointing out that they did the literal opposite of that. There *are* aliens in the Empire, and *officially* there is no policy of human supremacy. It just so happens that most of the humans who end up in positions of authority within the empire - total coincidence, nothing to see here citizen - think and act and hire and fire on that basis, and so long as they aren't egregious about it the hierarchy will look the other way. Again, you're framing it wrong. The Empire was not rounding up aliens and gassing them...mostly. They were pitting Near Humans against Humanoids and Nonhumanoids, they were using existing enmities like the Trandoshan-Wookie conflict to their benefit, they were putting out propaganda framing things as good aliens vs bad aliens and which was which changed over time depending on their strategic aims(initially supported/opposed the Republic during the Clone Wars, then other things as they began to set themselves apart from the Republic).

The Emperor wasn't going on the holonet doing spittle-flecked speeches about DER JUDEN or whatever, the Empire's human supremacy was more like America before the Civil Rights movement - aliens are (mostly)technically people, they get jobs, many Imperial citizens don't have a problem with them so long as they don't start trying to date their daughter etc.

>>97492561
Nah fuck that, farmer with a gun is better.

>>97494580
>>97495127
She seemed to work for the imps. I did like that she had Piggy's voicebox.

>>97495970
Because they're not a buncha haitian naggers.

>>97495158
Agreed

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>>97492561
Well, yeah. One has actual storytelling, drama, character work and themes. The other is just vapid hype moments and aura for edgy teenagers.

>>97495158
> Saber fights are best when played for drama, not action.
Always exceptions to that.
I like the lightsaber fights in the old republic cinematic trailers, but then again they are CGI so my suspension of disbelief is turned on so maybe that helps. It happened in Clone Wars too but I think the animation helped a bit. It is live action where I kind of accept that the drama context is more important that the lightsaber combat execution.
Except the first Vader vs Kenobi fight I didn’t like that lightsaber fight.
>>97496701
Admittedly I kind of thought the Rebels Maul death was better. Wish he kept the long robotic legs and the fight was a little bit longer but it worked better than Old Wounds overall.
I just think it is quite amazing that a throwaway literally who sith got turned into quite the character.

>talking about Maul vs Obi wan
I had a bit of an autism a year back and wrote some crap inspired by the Ashoka Tano copypasta.
Did the Ashoka Tano copypasta ever evolve to create a series of memes poling fun at the EU and Canon timelines?
Especially always ending with “and he was a good friend.”

Here’s my autism:
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96044431/#96044517

https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/84449130/#84459174

Feel free to point out any mistakes from spelling to grammar to maybe even an autocorrect like word misuse.

Lastly would anyone happen to know of a good Ben Kenobi 28mm miniature be it stl or resin or metal, please?

>>97485887
>Is there any position in the entire canon more indefensible?
Yeah, apologia for space witches from the Acolyte.
>Mind control a jedi and make him fight other jedi
>Turn into a horrifying smoke monster
>Turn a little girl into smoke too
>Get stabbed
>"I was going to let her go with you, wtf"

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>>97488654
ACK!