>>97458611
>He still linked the last thread
Fake IDGAFer

>>97458597
quite literally the worst approach if you want them to power down but hey. go ahead n try it

>>97458597
>Artifactfag abusing simulacrum synthesizer
>I don't take 20 minute turns guys!!1!
You're either blind to your own degeneracy or so mentally handicapped you can't recognize it, either way you're gay and retarded

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>>97458597
What's the list so we can judge whether you're just a downplaying fag?

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>>97458481
>repostan from dead thread
When would (You) take out Good cards, that aren't especially synergistic, from a pet-tier deck?
My mono-B Lili discard deck has a Tergrid and a Bolas's Citadel. They're always good when they come out, but they feel a little out of place. I don't want everyone's Evolving Wilds, my god.

>>97458774
>i like putting game changers but i feel weird beating up opponents with them
Hmmm I wonder why

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

SEX with Katara

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>friends nag me to get back into edh for like two straight years
>begrudgingly accept
>play a few games, have fun, start brewing again
>share with my friends because I'm excited
>no one can understand them at all
>"Anon, what the fuck is this?"
>"Why would you do this when you could just play something good?"
>"Discord says this is bad."
>slap them senseless in increasingly elaborate ways
>they literally dont understand how to tune their decks to stop me
Delightful.

>>97458805
Share decklist? Curious to see what you built. If you don't, I will post the meme. You know the one.

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Hey, I'm Anon, and I'm addicted to cardboard gambling. I've been clean for four months and I'm hoping to make it to a whole year.
The recent Strixhaven spoilers, as well as the Turtles and Power Rangers ones, have made me even more determined to skip sealed products.

>>97458818
Sure. You have a choice: do you want to see the KCI/Aristocrats hybrid combo nondeterministic storm deck, or the past in flames wheel replenish "draw is removal" flicker deck?

>>97458839
Nondeterministic storm is THE cancer, I don't care what anyone in this fucking general says, so the second, plz.

>>97458839
>hesitate to share any list at least

Yeah you are full of shit anon

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>>97458805
One thing I've learned is to never take anyone seriously who says "this card is bad." Even if that's true, it's not generally true as time has shown almost every card can be good in a certain deck at a certain time. Second, that isn't the point of the format. It's to have fun and try new things, and be creative and play cards you like. If you're friends can't understand that then fuck them. You need to be playing decks at similar power levels for maximum enjoyment. If they are all trying to make good strong decks, and keep getting stomped by your bad cards then refer back to point one.

>>97458822
Who the fuck still buys packs lmao

>>97458851
Well, it has a few deterministic combo kills, but setting up the combo requires entering [EUROBEAT INTENSIFIES] with mystic forge biotransference type insanity as your life total slowly dwindles and you slowly realized the wrong half of the deck is showing up relative to your tutors. But this isnt the other version that is straight up kci second sunrise kci yawgmoth's will, cast 60+ spells in a turn.

Without further stalling:
>https://moxfield.com/decks/pI6VLydHN02CnMsg9jMBaQ

Just ask if you want a rundown. It's rather... insane and unintuitive. Mostly because I'm bored.

>>97458901
Plz, if you would.

Some retard really said last thread if your deck is properly built it doesnt need protection AHAHAHAHAHA this thread is packed with dipshits

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>guy casts a boardwipe while i have 3 blood artist effects active

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I'm developing a theory. I found a significant overlap between "friends" and "people who are really, really bad at magic". Like, "I have to bring a budget bracket 2 deck to the bracket 3 table to not pubstomp everyone"-bad.

>>97459022
Post your decks anon :D

>>97458905
Glad you asked. It does a few things. There are three main combos in the deck: heliod balista (obvious, ends the game), that stupid blink cat from kaladesh and restoration angel plus a payoff, and paralax wave opalescence plus a payoff. The cat works with wave as well. The concept is to set up a flicker loop. Flicker the boys infinite times, impact tremors, laugh about it. Alternatively, any of the weird looking nonsense cards are usually payoffs of varying quality like molten hydra. That doesnt work? Get the big vagina demon or bonehording dracosaur out with zuko and just smash face with value until they die.

Now why this deck, why like this. My brother asked me to build him a stupid avatar deck with this card. I was mad. So I did. Everyone was on the impulse draw bandwagon, but I said fuck it and made this monstrosity.

This is not a combo deck. I know it seems like one, but it's a tempo deck. You have silver bullets, and usually your tutors are there to grab one and slow everyone else down. Apparently since I was gone people stopped running interaction, which is great for a deck like this. Wheel or discard your cards into the graveyard, do not give a shit about anything because nothing in life matters. Identify what will stop your opponents, or just make them discard cards so they need to waste time sculpting their hands. Then, replenish. Replenish will bring back your combo. If you mill replenish, past in flames. Most of your creature removal relies on bow masters and wheels or burning inquiry.

>>97458858
Yup, I feel that. Coming from legacy and vintage I mostly wanted to do crazy things, and they were all "if it isnt on mtgtop8 it's shit". I mostly shrugged about it.

>>97458805
>Put gravepact out in a deck
>If it resolves friends just scoop
>They are in fact in colors that can deal with enchantments, they just elect to not fucking run any enchantment remove outside of it being randomly tacked on to things like decimate which they only run because destroy creature and teehee blow up land!
You just can't help some people, and sound like your friends are as dumb as mine and just download netdecks and don't know how to pilot or build a normal deck

Wow the hyper optimized bracket 4 deck is strokg. You either play with retards or lie about them to impress 4chan strangers cause that deck is not confusing nor does it look weak.

>>97459059
>play with retards
It's usually this one.

>>97459059
my shitpost of the day is that bracket 4 doesnt really exist. its either non-meta cEDH in a trench coat or bracket 4 with four game changers.

>>97459059
it definitely doesn't look hyper optimized. it looks like his friends are idiots who can't close a game out and he's grinding value into their faces until they die; which, to be fair, I do appreciate doing sometimes.

>>97459073
>its either non-meta cEDH
That's quite literally the definition of bracket 4 yes.

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>>97459032
https://moxfield.com/decks/rOOLTA_u5U6A_YfzitsIKQ
this deck has probably around 90% winrate against at my friend's bracket 3 table
my other ones are xenagos and big black mana ardyn, with absurd winrates too and similar budget. I can't play any of these anymore, so I'm currently just playing an ognis deck on slightly-above-precon level.
https://moxfield.com/decks/VHONiNtJQUi17QwFyRwDXA
(jaws is only in there for the meme proxy)

>>97459054
Yup, exactly. I find they get into this weird zone where they think that the internet is law. It's more of a collaborative thing, but none of that is a substitute for goldfishing 100 times and playing the deck.

>>97459059
>friends are retards
Yes. That was the point. Hyper optimized? No. Not even remotely. Confusing? Extremely, and piloting it well versus piloting it poorly makes a massive difference. The mulligans alone are extremely punishing.

>>97458901
>locus petal
>mana vault
>top
>TOR
>helios+balista
>tutor, tutor, tutor
>wheel, pitch, dig, reanimate
>mass flicker with impact temors
>my brother's girlfriend's cousin's mother's book club's host's son's friend on a chat room told me this card is bad
you and your friends are retards

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UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!

>>97459143
stuck in gay elf jail

>>97459143
You can have new Brigid instead, you filthy would-be staff of domination abuser.

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Card has been out for a while. Has anyone had any experiences with it, positive or negative. Four mana for a tapped rock seems questionable in any tribal deck that contains green or white but maybe it's playable in red goblins or blue merfolk.

>no TQ

This thread is shit.

>TQ: What do you hope to see (other than capital punishment dealt out to all WotC staff members) in Strixhaven?

>>97459174
I tried it, not a fan. It was a chunk of nothing after boardwipes.

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>>97459177
I can't tell you what I want to see, but what I can tell you is I don't want to see any ugly dark colored people on the cards.

>>97459136
Oh, I am the king of retards. Retardus Maximus. Retard Prime. Being more retarded than me is honestly an accomplishment.

>>97458901
>a deck too weak for cedh but too strong for casual and chock full of GCs
This is what bracket 4 is meant for

>>97459174
Good in any tribe that can reliably hold up boardwipe protection, dogshit in any tribe that can't
I play it in katara and anim pakal and nothing else

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Does he still hold up in 2026?

>>97459249
>downgraded to rare
What do you think

>>97459177
Nothing honestly the set looks completely uninteresting in every way.
Really wondering what kind of audience it's meant to appeal to, it seems like it has no discernible flavor at all.

>>97459177
Monks. At least 1.

>>97458611
>that effect
waterbending healing is fucking teleportation it's damage mitigation. you ub motherfuckers don't even know what you're doing

Bretty good haul from the LGS today. Unfortunately they didn't have a meat hook massacre.
What have you gotten in the last week?

>>97458874
Only those that get a high from gambling buy boosters

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>>97459278
I'm fucking dumb.

>>97459278
I've actually gotten rid of cards as I'm tired of this game. Made $400.

>>97458822
>Power Rangers
What?

>>97459230
I agree, but it's also why I say there should be another bracket between 3 and 4. Sometimes you build a deck with a bunch of CG's but for whatever reason it's not strong like a 4.

>>97458691
I just do my math fast, it’s not that hard. And when I take a really long turn is usually “the game ends now if X is not dealt with” type of situation. Teysa guy drives me insane, he does everything at a snails pace, is literally sleep indulcing (that’s what happens when you decklist and play someone’s else strategy and not something you thought on your own).

>>97459249
>>97459258
I had one anon tell me no matter what it can't be strong, so probably bracket 4 strength isn't possible even if you throw all the syngeristic CG's on it. I still want to make one with him one day. I love the colors, the exalted mechanic and the one creature doing giant damage out of nowhere.

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>have one deck of each dual color combination
>have one deck of each mono-color but red
>have no idea what kind of red deck to make since it's my least favorite color
>slowly gathering red cards I like and setting them aside
>figure I might just say "fuck it" and pick one legendary creature and throw all the cards together and see what happens

Anyone else do this and then find some synergy that actually works out? I'm figuring doing it this way would be a long work in progress.

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>>97459249
>>97459361
you can probably take some people by surprise, and maybe if you really optimize it take some higher bracket games, but it's just going to be slower than combo at that level. still in good colors for get huge and evasion
obligatory mechanical reference post

>>97459349
>Sometimes you build a deck with a bunch of CG's but for whatever reason it's not strong like a 4.
That's because certain strategies are too weak no matter how many GCs you shove into them (voltron will never be anything beyond b2), while heliod + ballista is cedh viable
Also there's no point in advocating for a 3.5 because then people would want a 3.25 so on and so forth, a line has to be drawn and gavin has already decided
>but i want my deck to be b3+
There's no shame in just being a b2 deck, b2 is the standard format of edh anyway

>>97459416
>Also there's no point in advocating for a 3.5 because then people would want a 3.25 so on and so forth
And what would the criteria for that 3.25 be then?

>>97459416
>voltron will never be anything beyond b2
this type of thinking is what 0 pussy does to a mf

>>97459416
I think 5 is a bad number because the differences between 1-3 are so minor, then you get into nutso bonkers crazy land immediately afterwards if you run the wrong cards. I get having a soft banlist. Tiers? Not so much when there is no material difference.

But all this is an aside. I have never once seen anyone refer to the system IRL. Online? Obsession. Most people at the game store are in three big buckets: people who build what they have, people who buy stuff to be better, and people who also play formats where the floor is having everything already.

>>97459394
Squall has a niche in bracket 2 wherein he's voltron while retrieving combo pieces and removal from the grave, he can kill the most threatening player and then kill the other two with a warren soultrader combo

>>97459436
There's been some guy for the past few month that just comes here to rage about voltron decks, and equipments specifically.

>>97459442
>differences between 1-3 are so minor
And yet watch how many people tremble at the idea of primetime and aeons torn being GCs

>>97459434
If you cant imagine a 3.25 being justifiable well gavin thinks a 3.5 isnt justifiable either so there you go

>>97459461
People will be mad about anything. Emrakul is a bit iffy because that opens the flood gates for all the sneak and show tin fins type stuff weaker players would explode about, prime time is a cool guy who doesnt afraid of anything, and neither really make a big difference in the scope of all magic ever when applied to EDH.

>>97459486
>Emrakul is a bit iffy
So now you're seeing b3 having an identity and b2 will be safe from those shenanigans, not so minor after all huh
It's not like gavin is keeping this a secret, any 60card tournament grinder worth their salt wouldve seen exactly what kind of "meta" he wants for each bracket/"format"

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>>97459482
>I don't have an argument for what you said, so I'll just make a pithy comment with no substance

>>97459498
Good luck convincing gavin of a 3.5, it's been a year and he's clearly not budging

>>97459495
No, actually. I think they're both hysterical over literally nothing? My comment was literally "weaker players will lose their minds", but the subtext was those strategies have been around an extremely long time and arent even very... good? Anyways, the segements always made the most sense as "some soft banned cards, all the soft banned cards, none of the soft banned cards" and I have a lot of difficulty understanding anything betond that.

>>97459442
>the differences between 1-3 are so minor
0 games take

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>TQ
Even more Toughness Matters support for Doran.

>>97459523
>but the subtext was those strategies have been around an extremely long time and arent even very... good?
Try playing a deck w/o any GCs first, your perspective is skewed

>>97459553
This was meant for >>97459177

>>97459533
It's true. Hate all you want, the fundamental difference between "cards are good" and "structure is relational, a deck is a system, and even great cards are only good in context for the amount of the solutions they provide relative to the solutions you have" is so unbelievably vast that it's almost impossible to move between them.

>>97459572
You're too autistic to accept that any delienation from cedh is by definition arbitrary and it just so happens that gavin is at the helm
And even cedh itself is arbitrary, sheldon banned the moxes just because he said so, and imagine how ridiculous it is that contract from below is banned when cedh games are done fully proxied

They should ban every card over $50.

>>97459559
Oh? To the point and to skip the bickering, it wont make a difference. I can make a crazed combo deck without them, I can make one with them, it's about literacy and experience, not the soft bans. Problem solving can be taught, and magic is a skill.

>>97459585
Sure, I'm autistic, but that's not really relevant, and I aware this is the bait specifically selected for you so I'll leave it here. They are two VASTLY different methods of deck building that do not care about tier or soft banlist. However, a soft banlist keeps the strongest proponents of the methodology on the side where they get the most toys, until there is incentive for them to come back. Like prizes.

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She's pretty good, no? I'm surprised I haven't seen a list posted here yet

Is it true the Tolkien Estate is worth more than Hasbro?

>>97459616
Glad to see you admitting to be disabled, but rest assured i'm telling you the truth that any "soft-bans"/GCs inevitably lead to new distinct metas for each bracket/format, the arbitrariness of gavin saying so and so doesnt take away from this truth

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I am forgotten

>>97459174
Tried it in Ashcoat. It's fine if you can get it down early and can keep your board up with rats. But a lot of times it would just sit in hand since there would be other things I'd rather cast. I'm debating just cutting it for some other mana rock.

>>97459642
I agree? Damn. Maybe I need a smoke or something. I was just trying to say that a big chunk are parts, and the smaller chunk are things greater than the sum of the parts, so we should just accept the premise that metas gunna meta.

>>97459658
Did they even change the rules on this or were YouTubers just sperging out for no reason?

>>97459625
She's very good, but she's two colors, doesn't have a very splashy effect and doesn't point you in one easy direction so she gets overlooked. She'll have her day in a year or maybe two.

>>97459593
May I introduce you to Penny Dreadful

>>97459625
I mean, she sure is a UR commander that wants to only have >=4cmc cards
her most "interesting" case is probably going to be as turn 2 ramp in nongreen decks with 4mana commanders, and especially 'big grixis/temur spells' or similar types of deck

>>97459675
There hasn't been any official statement afaik, but I think they put out feelers and were going to do it in Lowyer given how much hybrid there was, but the community gave too much push back

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>>97459625
>She's pretty good, no?
Shut up Rrrrrrararararan

She's fine but only in the 99 of other decks.

Tonight at the game store there were four pods of three and when asked to sort it out they turned into two pods of five and one of three

"Just build a deck that works without its commander," he says as he puts together yet another generic tribal/landfall/enchantress list.

>>97459788
clearly they should have been one pod of seven and one pod of five

>>97459675
They wanted to change it so they could start printing lazy pie breaks and overpowered hybrid cards to double dip on whales in every color, but they've gone silent.
They haven't started they aren't going to do it, they're just going to wait until people are apathetic again, then push it through.

>>97459802
You okay bro?

>>97459824
Is there a term for acting like a victim over events that haven't even occurred?

>>97459788
when you saw that one guy mitosis, did he spawn in with another copy of all his decks, or did he divide all his decks in half

>>97459059
>>97459070
isn't the point of the post to call his friends retards?

>>97459851
we found the dupe exploit

>>97459836
Pray tell, why do you think the company that prints the cards is suddenly trying to change the rules of the format?

>>97459836
Yeah it's called being a liberal

>>97459859
A retard should not call others retards. Its unbecoming.

>>97459862
I see

>>97459861
Kill yourself libtard

>>97459851
The former but they were proxies

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>>97459675
They were trying to feel it out but only the vast amount of pushback actually kept them from changing things. It was a bad change and would have made pie-breaks more common for no actually beneficial reason as >>97459824 said.

>>97459836
You can be annoyed by a company's stated intent if it runs counter to your desires, especially as a voluntary consumer of their product. We're under no obligation to respond positively when WotC goes "hey guys, we were thinking about doing some more enshittification about a format we didn't even come up with, is that maybe okay with you guys?"

new to commander, played standard for a while. I was building a deck and saw the whole bracket system. I was wondering what the attitude around it was, like if someone is bringing a really thematic deck that is super suboptimal but has a couple strong cards is viewed the same as say a midrange deck

ALL THE FAGS WHO WERE SO SURE IT WPULD HAPPEN YOU WERE ALL SO MEAN TO ME BUT I WAS RIGHT THE HYBRID CHANGE DIDNT HAPPEN
PRE ADDRESSING THE OBVIOUS COPE
>it could still happen
It could! That has no bearing on this scenario!

>>97459888
only good poster in this thread

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>>97459922
Forgot image my bad

>>97459733
Oh, okay. That's good to know. Thanks anon.

>>97459824
I don't even know how to respond to this. If they were going to do it, I would think it'd mainly be to save money on printing color symbols. Hybrid can fit 2 symbols in one circle, thus giving the card a little more space.

>build a full powered Ob-Nixilis Captive Kingpin cEDH deck back 2023
>Never played it not even once
I should reconsider my habitual deckbuilding addiction

>>97459922
Reminder we dont care if the hybrid change pushes through eventually or not but your life will be forever ruined if it does go through so enjoy holding on that cliff's edge lol

>>97459946
Neither of us care but I was right and you were wrong :)

>>97459953
>neither of us care
>YOU WERE SO MEAN TO ME
>...i'm not crying!
haha sure bud

>>97459920
>I was wondering what the attitude around it was
the attitude is awful. I can't figure the opinions though.
>if someone is bringing a really thematic deck that is super suboptimal but has a couple strong cards
depends on what you mean by "super strong cards" as there is essentially a "this moves you up a bracket" list, but generally that would probably be 1 or 2.
>as say a midrange deck
depends on a lot.
here's the issue, "strongly themed at the cost of power" is 1, "about your average precon" is 2. unfortunately it's half vibes and half "how early do you expect to win the game;" with tournament cedh being "t0 wins acceptable," bracket 4 "threaten to win starting on turn 4," bracket 3 "win starting turn 6," 2 is "win starting turn 8" and bracket 1 anything past that.

>>97459963
Imagine opining about brackets without reading gavin's latest update

>>97459965
anon I literally have the article open to reference the turn counts. 'average precon' is deprecated language because dumbasses can't help but say "but this one has a gamechanger in it," but if you can remember what 'average' means it still works.
also I'm not opining, I'm explaining the guidelines in different words so it's hopefully easier to understand.

>>97459922
Isn't Hasbro getting sued for fucking up the game? Hybrid mana really was the straw that broke the camels back. wotc won't fuck with the rules until that gets resolved

I really hate how every card game seems built for longer turn counts but never actually pans out that way
Even in the weakest formats you'd never be able to hardcast shit like the Eldrazi titans without ramp, because games simply do not go long enough for them to be accessible
I don't like every 5+ mana card being permanently impractical

>>97459971
>although the difference is subtle
The difference in what?

The best part about commander was the colour pie as a deck building description. And now it's the worst.

>>97459978
The opposite, actually, they're being sued for not fucking up the game enough in terms of profit-chasing

>>97459861
Because MaRo is highly egotistical and wants to leave his mark on the game.
Companions were literally his take on Commanders, and I bet nothing burns him more than the fact they were not well received

>>97459869
I mean, he's only retarded because it's obvious he's smart enough to do something better.

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>>97459999
Elaborate
ALSO NICE QUADS

>>97458839
nondeterministic storm is BASED fun. don't let anyone keep you down

>>97458839
>KCI/Aristocrats hybrid combo nondeterministic storm deck
This sounds like apex level niggercancer but I'm a slut for anything involving KCI, post it please

>>97459922
wait did the april announcement already happen?

>>97460000
Curiosity

>>97459977
I would use "average precon" in any way shape or form regarding bracket 2 as the average precon is in fact weaker than the world shaper precon even without the gitrog darkmor infinite
What actually defines b2 is how incremental and telegraphed it is compared to b3, "whenever x do y" commander design is a good example

>>97459959
What on earth do you even think youre saying

there is nothing wrong with prolonging the game

>>97460049
*i wouldnt use avg precon*

>>97460014
Back in the day, like 2012ish, the colour pie was a real limitation. You needed to know the mechanics, the flavour, and a giant card pool of elaborate work arounds. Multiple colours (beyond two) was unironically a massive drawback. Jeleva and Kess used to be top tier JUST because they were grixis and had somewhat of an effect. Colour fixing was expensive, difficult, inconsistent, and a legitimate drawback. 3 colour commanders were rare, sought after, and limited. Anything beyond that was unheard of.

Now? Every set has 3+ colour this and that. WotC slaps effects on cards just to get around restrictions. All the good decks are lots of colours and monocolour is a massive draw back. Deck building is too consistent. Colour fixing is effortless. Partners have been around for a decade and are uncontested on top of the shitpile because they get around colour restrictions with upside, and every single deck is just all the best cards slapped together with some mild variation. New problems that require solutions not allowed in the colour pie have cropped up, and they are gated behind 3+ colour decks that can do everything.

They need to remove the colour limitation and just get on with it; it is only a negative and doesnt matter in a functional sense anymore.

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>>97459996
Excellent question. I don't know. Here's the source from the clawmark rune.
I took it to mean the difference in "horrific" and "unwelcome", implying horrific things aren't inherently unwelcome.
But I guess it could also mean the difference between the "Beast" rune and the "Clawmark" rune. Where beast is unwelcome while clawmark is inviting.
I do like the first interpretation more.

>>97459999
>>97460000
C-consecutive..!

>>97460063
>They need to remove the colour limitation and just get on with it
Wotc is trying with hybrid to give mono a boost but casuals as usual dont understand anything

>>97460065
it's a lot clearer with both subjects, anon. remember that you're supposed to be able to rearrange clauses separated by commas in (nearly) any way and the sentence will still make sense.
>"although the difference is subtle, Caryll describes X as this while Y is that."
>"Caryll describes X as this while Y is that, although the difference is subtle."

>>97460019
They couldnt even if they tried.

>>97460029
Oh, it is. Long turns that dont go anywhere. Harsh mulligans. You will kill yourself if you arent careful. But I love it. Based on my playtesting, you win no later than turn 6. Usually around turn 4. Rarely before turn 3. It's like... well I dont want to spoil the magic, but that B warp guy that's blood artist also works with artifacts.

>https://moxfield.com/decks/UAOYJvfElE2IHgxnV8T1yQ

>>97460082
shitty idea they though of in a 10-minute meeting, just makes multiple hybrid cards an autoinclude in all mono decks
they need to print cards that are inverse-converge to actually encourage monodecks. print more high-commander-cmc-matters cards, things that reward high cmc commanders (and uses the lowest cmc among commanders you own/control, fuck you dargo)

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>>97460133
dargo's an honest pirate in an honest mardu deck he did nothing wrong

>>97460065
Fromsoft translations are notoriously scuffed but it makes more sense with the full context, yeah

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>>97460155
The deck is cool. Once.

>>97460105
>>97460157
So, I take that the difference between Beast and Clawmark is the favored interpretation.
I don't think it'll look good to have the entire paragraph on the card, so I'll likely paraphrase it or look for another source of flavor text.

>>97459920
Brackets are mostly a way of better enabling rule 0 talks instead of the "everything is a 7" that plagued the format before.

The main thing I would suggest is readily knowing and being able to communicate how quickly you plan to win, how much you will be interfering with other people's gameplans, and how hard it may be to set you back once you get going.


>>97460000
So far as I saw it was specifically about things like the high release volume undercutting the long-term value of the brand which was demonstrated by huge reported growth followed by losses the very next quarter. It's still being laundered under the terms of "fiduciary duty to shareholders" but could be enough to potentially reign in aspects of this absurd release schedule since it is in terms that Hasbro execs can potentially be forced to understand. That said I'm not super optimistic, going public is bad for any even remotely niche company.

If you have a trigger doubler, like roaming throne and someone triggers a creature of yours with ward, do they need to pay the tax twice?

>>97460241
yes

>>97459920
>I was wondering what the attitude around it was, like if someone is bringing a really thematic deck that is super suboptimal but has a couple strong cards
this is covered by gavin wherein he gave an example of a nicol bolas bracket 1 deck getting the pass to run bolas's citadel even though that card is broken as fuck

>>97460241
Ward is a triggered ability, so it would happen twice and they would need to pay the ward cost twice.


What are people's thoughts on the shape rotator captcha?

>>97460260
I like the "find the odd one out" ones but the "find the one with only X number of Y-pointed stars" are cringe.

Man Marvel is sure looking like a pure monkey paw for me. I love all these characters and Wotc is not even trying to port them over well. We’ve seen 2 Captain America’s and 2 Dooms and they are both dogshit.

>>97460282
90% of any given set is useless pack filler. That's not going to change just because it's UBslop.

>>97460310
>90% of any given set is useless pack filler
Said this a thousand times, but anon what the fuck do you think happens if they try to make 100% of cards busted?
The power level of the whole game goes up and still only the top 10% of cards see play and you continue to say that 90% of the set is pack filler.

You would have to be an actual diagnosable retard not to understand this.

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>>97460310
They gave more of a shit about FIN than either of the Marvel sets honestly

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How do I build monke? Voltron? Blink?

>>97460339
I'm pretty sure Squeenix made them give a shit.

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>>97460347
>squeenix
>giving a shit about FF
haha yeah

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Thanks for overloading that winds of abandon fuck wit.

>>97460352
They give a shit they're just retarded

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How you all feel about the big gay sol ring?

>>97460379
when's the goatse secret lair

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>>97460396
Can you see it too?

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>>97460347
To an extent maybe but there's only so much you can do on the corporate end to control card design, not to mention Disney is notoriously litigious
It's not a perfect set (Omega's flavor is bizarre) but in comparsion to spidermemes it's night and day

>>97460437
I didn't run Deltascape so I don't know a lot about it

>>97460489
I did, and I don't get it either

>>97460363
>anon gets blown out at the LGS

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>>97460489
In most of the series Omega is a superboss with the shtick of traveling through the Interdimensional Rift, kind of like what Gilgamesh does.
The XIV one is designed to be a perfect weapon that chased Midgardsormr from the Dragonstar to the game's planet because Omega's race (the Omicrons) genocided the dragons. It's trying to finish the job and use the WoL to optimize its combat skills but can't because it's in a setting where passion and willpower make you stronger, and eventually it learns that and stops trying to blast everything, or at least that's the tldr
Basically it has nothing to do with lands/nature and is no more Simic than Memnarch was, but they made it that way because the YoshiP card is built for landfall and they were clearly meant to be played together. I really like Omega so I'm a little bit sour about it still.
They COULD have gone for the OMG route, where you can find Omega's little drone peacefully exploring the world after completing that questline, and that would have sorta made sense with the land synergy, but it wouldn't have done anything to represent the franchise-wide Omega.

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>be me, sigma WANGHAF
>only play GOAT commanders
>my lgs doesn't understand, they big mad
>roll up to some uncs playing some bracket 2 or 3 shit
>decide uncs are in for a mogging and get out my blue farm
>tell them it's giving 3 vibes
>we sit and i'm mewing while moging their negative aura with sigma rizz
>t1, i stacked my deck so i keep and yeet my infinite on the table
>uncs be delulu yapping about my deck not being 3
>i low key hit them with that sigma stare and walk out of the store to my pookie in the car about to get some action on

>>97460596
Your slang is outdated and you're trying too hard

What are the wokest card I can add to my deck?

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>>97460623

>>97460623
Ayron-gorn probably

>>97460638
That's more of a christian revival type of card.

>>97460638
scryfall's gonna use this for their next political theme

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>>97460623

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Turns out it's really good. Giving your opponent more cards doesn't matter when they can't play them all.

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>>97460761
That's why I really like Socrates, politics and draw all in one.

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Are we posting bad proxies?

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>making a maralen deck

Jfc

>>97460930
man why is feywild visitor so shit, it has like three restrictions too many

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>>97459143
He's unbanned but only his "updated for 2026" art card is legal, which is pic related. Do you still play it?

>>97459143
How many times do we need to tell your retarded ass RL cards aren't going to get unbanned.

Is there any mtg youtuber that isn't gay?

It's always morally correct to kill furniggers.

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>>97459249
No. Both Rafiq and the Exalted mechanic have been powercrept out of the game. Needing a Voltron commander that relies on 8+ not good creatures/enchantments sticking to the board to get lethal is laughably bad in 2026. Even his strictly better replacement isn't great.

>>97461072
this, but people who proxy

can we go back to being mad april isn't a redhead? that was fun

>>97460282
>we’ve seen 2 Captain America’s
I liked the Shield Token Cap. Commander Deck Cap is okay. Scene Box Cap is the only bad one. None of them can live up to the Secret Lair Cap unfortunately.

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After 16 years, I finally put together this deck. What are some must have cards for it? I'm going to sleeve it up and start testing it out.

>>97461232
Nigger you had 16 years to tinker this shit figure it out yourself

>>97461232
this deck can only be played as BW goodstuff with a commander that exists

>>97459888
>looks like

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so I've been tinkering with a Bre stoutarm a bunch, and realized she doesn't return the exiled lands to the bottom of the library like other pseudo cascade effects. is there anything in boros that can benefit from (land) cards in exile? something in the vein of candlekeep inspiration?

>>97461259
It was an off and on and off and on deck. I finally got around to narrowing it down to 100 cards.

>>97461270
It's anything but that. Not one CG.

I swear if I see you use any cards from an IP I do not like I will go insane and begin throwing poop

>>97461055
>AI Slop
No

>painting slop
I'll stick to my imagination thx

>>97461055
Was it really too hard to Google 'male shirtless elf' and NOT get something AI generated? Or are you that brain dead? Or, even sadder and sillier, you're a hater of artists...

>>97461409
What's wrong with being hater of artists? Why can't they be hated? Asking for a friend

>>97461429
Nothing, that's based 2bh

>>97461429
nothing it's based

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So tired of tribalfags wasting card slots in sets.

>>97461556
Normally, I might agree, but it's a tribal set.

>>97459249
Maybe. Try brewing him outside of the obvious voltron shell and maybe as a wincon in the command zone for bant enchantress stax.

>>97461556
mono white tramble....

>>97459888
>he doesn't know

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>>97459249
He's just bant xenogod

Oink

Meow

>>97461608
E N L I G H T E N E D

>>97461612
Piggy go oink oink
cow go moo
chicken go cluck cluck
how about you?

>>97461640
Stream it

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>WG
Kindred Instant - Enchantment
Testicular Torsion
As you cast this spell, each player and each creature with flying they control take 1 damage for each ability they activated or had trigger this turn.
Until end of turn, if an ability would trigger or be activated, instead it doesn't.

>Not Impossible. Necessary.

>>97461676
>Kindred Instant - Enchantment
what the fuck am I reading

>>97461682
it's bullshit, but I banged a chick in seattle who said something about they floated modal types - like evoke for enchantments and planeswalkers. didn't give me any details but I figured something like a cast trigger than sacrifice it while it has an overcosted static ability.

I think summons were actually an interesting use of design space

>>97461676
I don't know why everyone makes such a big deal out of testicular torsion. I've literally walked it off twice.

>>97461698
based

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>>97461698
>t no balls

>>97458874
I buy a box now and then to draft with friends but wotc is determined to make me not enjoy that anymore

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>>97461698
Jesus christ. You didnt get it checked? Holy hell.

>>97461698
My cousin had to cut one of his ball because of it bruh

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Sooo… what does it go with?

>>97461000
Pronouns update is imminent

>>97461848
Etchings of the Chosen naming zombies + literally any ETB/LTB trigger

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>>97461848

>stop playing combo it's not fun
>stop playing control it's not fun

I am not allowed to play control.
I am not allowed to play combo.
I am not allowed to play aggro decks such as Arabella or Ureni because I win faster than my opponents can win.
I am not allowed to play simic.
I am not allowed play removal.
I am not allowed to play mono-blue.
I am not allowed to play mono-black.
I am not allowed to play izzet.
I am not allowed to play azorius.
I am not allowed to play any commander in the EDHREC top 100.
I am not allowed to play any commander with protection.
I am not allowed to play any commander that interferes with my opponents interfering with my board state.
My pod? They play, to mention a few: Edgar Markov, Krenko, Y’Shtola, Pantlaza, Lathril, Ms. Bumbleflower, Teval, Frodo and Sam, Hearthhull, Atla
Palani, and Captain Niggathrod

>>97461896
sounds like the only common denominator is you, bubby.

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You can cast your commander ONCE for free, but only on or after the turn that meets its mana cost (eg 2 mana commanders could be cast on turn 2+ for free, 5 mana commander turn 5+ for free).

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U board btw...

>>97461904
Well I tried advertising my fantasy book on 4chan ads and like, 3 people bought it. Now you get that. Many such cases, I fear.

>>97461698
My bf unironically lost 1 to torsion

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>>97461908
Ayyyyyy. I wrote an unmarketable postmodern hell book no one will publish or buy. Neat. We're now internet friends.

>>97461920
Just selfpub and spam on /lit/, friend. I got 165 sales in a couple of months doing that

>>97461912
Your what?

>>97461928
My black daddy boy friend.
Not kidding btw.

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>>97461908
>>97461920
>>97461926
MTG commanders with this feel?

>>97461903
Ludicrous with win-button commanders.

>>97461930
Tell me your top three commanders and your gender assigned at birth.

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>>97460339
Given how uninspired and outright bad a lot of UB has been, I'm starting to suspect that Final Fantasy's success was due to SquareEnix advisors putting a boot on wotcs neck and forcing them to be at the top of their game in every respect. The characters were protected from DEIversity and it nailed the power level Magic should be, not weak and not full of overpowered whale call chase cards. And every single major deck type got to eat good, there was actual variety in the set.

It feels like one of the few sets they actually gave a fuck about in awhile and given that they don't seem to be personal fans of the series I really can't help wondering if wotcs FF success was forced upon them...

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>>97461946
>given that they don't seem to be personal fans of the series
gavin says his favorite is ff9

>>97461690
Shame they weren't well done. Hopefully we'll get a lot more in the future.

>>97461926
I am in the process of negotiating with a few publishers, I was being dramatic, but sales are irrelevant to me. I mostly wanted to have my book published so when I'm dead people can look at my ideas and say "neat".

>>97461931
For me? Nin, fhe Pain Artist.

>>97461946
aside from the blackening of a few characters, lotr was very much in the same stratta of power level, perhaps slightly more torqued with halfling, bowmasters and the one ring, but otherwise a flavorfully diverse set.

>>97461934
Those ones make the deck bracket 4 by default and are confined to cedh troon table

>>97461943
>send me your cranial measurements you yakubian ape

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>>97461960
I have extremely high expectations for the Hobbit, mostly because I desperately want a viable golgari food commander, so I am apologizing in advance to anyone else who also is excited for the Hobbit because God personally hates me and doesn't want me to experience joy so it will probably be shite.

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>>97461965
Not really. Many commanders would get significantly stronger.

>>97461957
You can do that with self publishing. Buy author copies and distribute them in the neighborhood library boxes. Publishing traditionally is just masturbatory

>>97461957
>I mostly wanted to have my book published so when I'm dead people can look at my ideas and say "neat".

By the time we're dead 99.99% of the human race will be illiterate due to AI reliance.

>>97461974
Yes. Yes it is. That's my goal. I could tell you a long silly brag filled story, but mostly I want a real publisher to give me some street cred so I can follow my dream: writing childrens books. I have chops, I have a voice and a distinct style, I even have a market segment with long tail upside and. built in merch options, but attention would be nice. Anyways, thanks for your advice anon, I'd happily talk about your book any time.

>>97461943
>Tell me your top three commanders and your gender assigned at birth.
I am a male.
I will not tell you my commanders,

>>97461986
Bello, Aragorn, Rin and Seri, Kefka, and K’rrik. I’m sure at least one is played by you

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>>97461848
Infinite with whatever treasure spamming sac/death outlet

>>97461904
>seeing ads
>2026 years after the death of our lord and savior christ

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I love this guy.

>block almost anything
>removes anything if you're attacked, which basically makes it a fog
>if removed or sacked, gives you a ton of value

It's the perfect white card. Buys you all the time to do what you need.

>>97462033
your pods are so innocent

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In response to his activation, I bounce kang

>>97461182
Fuck. You’re right. We’ve seen fucking 3 and they’re all absolute buns. Precon cap gets a pass for being the designated hero slop commander that I can throw all the heroes in but I had really hoped they would have built upon what they started in the Secret Lair. All the Avengers barring Hulk have weapons that could be equipment. Equipped creature matters would have been a solid theme. We better get his shield as a card.

>>97462037
Wait until he finds out about Godsend.

>>97461556
I need this for hero slop

>>97462037
What do you mean?

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>>97462045
>kang
Krang*

I want more 1-mana landcyclers.
Like even if it's just "basic mountaincycling {1}.
Hell, I'd run one wastes and a "wastescycling {1}" in a deck if the card was usable.

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>remove banlist
>bring back tuck rule
>bring back legendary rule
>ban UB cards

There. I fixed Commander.

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>is non-binary
>doesn't sacrifice any creatures
73 gender bros. we are eating good!

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>>97462122
Not so fast colorlet

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>Wolverine, Furious Mutant
>1RG
>Legendary Mutant Hero
>1/1
>Whenever this creature attacks it gets +X/+0 until the end of turn, where X is it's power.
>Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, it deals that much damage to each other player.
>1G: Regenerate this creature.

I will now buy your Marvel set Hasbro.

>>97462135
>having 2 open
You're tapped out, bro. You're always tapped out.

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>>97462142
I may be tapped out, but I always have it.

5 top reasons why white is the worst color

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>>97462162

>>97462162
1 no draw
2 no draw
3 no draw
4 no ramp
5 no damage
paired with another colors, it's good tho, like every other color. it's just that it's so ass when played mono.

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>>97462162
SYBAU

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>>97461946
I unironically think that after LOTR black washing a lot of third party ip's have been WAY more careful with what they let wotc do.
Square enix is notoriously defensive of their intellectual property so it's no surprise that everyone was represented properly with s lot of thought going into the cards (even if they clearly didn't take very many risks design-wise). As much as I love LOTR(the books of course not the wotc changes) I feel very much like it was the sacrificial lamb in terms of UB. It had to die so that every other IP that comes after actually defends their characters

>>97462003
>Bello, Aragorn, Rin and Seri, Kefka, and K’rrik. I’m sure at least one is played by you
your prediction is black x white pairs
based actually
but I prefer commanders that are hot males but with plausible deniability of me running them as a coomer

>>97461521
based on what?

>>97462162
Because if you mention it Whiteschizo will appear and start screaming about Israel

>>97461556
Go home zoomer

>>97462215
Honestly I agree, the IPs where the holder actually gives a damn about them seem to have produced better recieved sets, and the ones where the IP holder doesn't fucking care have produced garbage. It's just genuinely tragic that the current IP holder for LotR literally does not care about it outside of how much cash they can milk from it. It'd unironically be better off in the public domain since at least then people who actually love and cherish the IP can freely work with it as they please, instead of access being limited to the highest bidder, who only cares about it because it is a recognizable brand that people have a high opinion of (Because it hasn't been subverted by ideologues yet)

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>>97462243
>it's just genuinely tragic that the current IP holder for LotR literally does not care about it outside of how much cash they can milk from it
tolkien's descendants are bongs, it was bound to happen

>>97462152
Complete the Spirit Guide Cycle

>>97462254
Kek who was that quote originally meant to describe?
The British spent 900 years in the Dark Ages after the Romans left but everything they built after that was entirely their own. A nation that has lasted 1000 years, took democracy to 1/4 of the world. You can’t say any of that was built on older civilizations any more than you could say it about every other European country

>>97462268
>he fell for the dark ages meme

>>97462268
theodore dalrymple is referring to the superior civilization of the old british empire and the barbarians are the current YOO KAY

>>97462162
It has no identifiable purpose.
>blue: draw
>green: ramp
>red: aggro
>black: all that shit but with a life paying them
>white: uuuuuuhhhhhhh removal and weak as fuck creatures?

>>97462277
MTG color pie should've been constructed differently.
Instead of
>White kills enchantments
>Red doesn't
it should be
>White kills enchantments AND gains life doing it
>Red kills enchantments BUT loses life doing it
etc

>>97462277
White used to be the color of fairness and balance but players the stax plus it was super abusable
>Armageddon
>Balance
Etc
The whole point of the game is to advantage yourself and disadvantage your opponents. In white if an effect is legitimately symmetrical then it fucking sucks, and if it’s asymmetrical then players will just break it so it benefits them the most

>>97462283
If you swapped "Red" for "Black" in the second group, you'd get the modern color pie, since under rare circumstances, black CAN kill enchantments, provided they pay a cost.
Red still can't kill enchants, but it's one of the best at killing artifacts so it's fine.

>>97462283
white kills stuff good (exile)
blue kills stuff and draws
black kills stuff agood but loses life
red kills stuff and burns as well
green kills stuff and gains life

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She's still beautiful...my Jeska

>>97462316
>white kills stuff good (exile)
Theres only like a couple playable cards in white that does this. White has far more banishment effects instead

>>97462324
if I were hasbro I'd fire everyone at wizards and put japan in charge

>>97462324
Fugg are we getting some planeswalker commander partner reprint?

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I don't know anything about Star Trek. Would it be unreasonable for me to hope that explore returns in it? I want new cards fro my Nicanzil deck.

>>97462367
I kinda doubt we will see explore in tng, even if it is thematic to the ideals of og and tng

>>97462376
explore in mtg*, fuck me running.

>>97462380
Sad but I kind of figured it's probably not likely.

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>we are going to print sooo many cards
that means a lot of near forgotten mechanics will get reprints and new additions, right?
> :^)

>>97462402
Honestly preserving the idea that every new set needs new mechanics in an era where they print 6 fucking sets a year is beyond deranged.
One of the biggest arguments I ever got into at the LGS was with the old guard, telling them that I’d rather see support for existing mechanics than shit out a new mechanic that’s just slightly different to an old mechanic but with a completely different name

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>>97462141
Nigger they made this card

>>97462408
I fully expected Marvel to bring back crimes and plot and heroic. The cards write themselves.