File: 113156260_p1.jpg (2.1 MB)

2.1 MB JPG

>>97461233
I play lizards. Nothing changed for me.
Aside from the nerf to Unstable, which will make the next TK or VC game much easier.

File: IMG_2418.jpg (145.6 KB)

145.6 KB JPG

There is quite literally nothing that will be changed in my list. Maybe I’ll get a lil freaky and turn my 15 man dryad block into a 16 man.

File: 1637664139146.jpg (2.3 MB)

2.3 MB JPG

I have a question about Forces of Fantasy and Ravening Hordes. Are they mostly just the army lists? Or do they also have a decent amount of lore, color guides, art, and so on?

>>97461233
Oh good, they made a change to stupidity!
>It's a stupid change
Welp. On brand I guess

File: __hua_cheng_tianguan_cifu_drawn_by_amonimy__9c2f0c885b558ed69258bcf825bab339.jpg (670.9 KB)

670.9 KB JPG

>>97461289
your dryads are men?

>>97461368
If you follow the gofile link in the OP you can look at/download them both and look through them.

File: what the faq 1.jpg (135.5 KB)

135.5 KB JPG

So... If i got say 15 gors with two weapons as 3 ranks that get charged. 5 die to the charge meaning 5 still exist in the fighting rank and 5 are now the 2nd rank. Since those 5 are now in the front rank, do they get their full attacks and not just the single attack they would have gotten for being in 2nd row?
Why does this faq make more questions than it answers?

File: what the faq 2.jpg (129.2 KB)

129.2 KB JPG

This is a very interesting set of questions that is useful to see answered. This has more impact on monstrous infantry than normal, but does have an impact.

>Cannons are gonna be sooooooo scary guys! This meta is gonna be all cannons!
>Ushtabi have 4+ impossible to reduce long range bows that instantly kill any two hit
TK is going to absolutely shit on this meta for the next year

>>97461438
No, those five dead gors would not get to fight. You don't just conjure a new fighting rank out of thin air, if your fighting rank of five gors die on the charge then they don't get to fight. The five gors behind them each get to make one attack. The front rank only changes/gets updated between turns, not within turns.

>>97461462
So why did they need to clarify that, cause that's how I've been doing it since the errata. What even exactly did they clarify?

File: 1704064604528460.jpg (611.2 KB)

611.2 KB JPG

>>97461233
>TQ
This TQ is so AoS/40k coded. Here in this general we practice Stillmania.

>>97461289
Based Stillmania practitioner

>>97461553
>Make sure it fits the background.
Best way to play.

>>97461480
I genuinely do not know. It might clear up some confusion regarding a unit being charged by multiple units and therefore having multiple fighting ranks, but it also doesn't. It's essentially confirming that a fighting rank being wiped out or changed does not affect the supporting rank. A lot of the wording regarding Press of Battle is vague and stupid, just play it in the most logical manner you can.

>>97461426
I prefer to avoid piracy, when possible

>>97461553
>Here in this general we don't buy any models
Guess TOW is doomed to fail again then

>>97461438
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kmruO_YtN2c&fbclid=IwVERDUAPnuyNleHRuA2FlbQIxMABzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAwzNTA2ODU1MzE3MjgAAR5PeErbI62nlrqvQYlcsGPZIsmo1gGOw__RFssNf-Dk7jlplHjEpLjSrX9urA_aem_DczwRoZ6RpVG-gEwytViLQ

>>97461772
Sure, fine, whatever you want buddy.
But also they are just there. Take a look, is that the content you want?

>>97461772
it's morally correct to pirate a dead game anon, GWendolyn doesnt care

>>97461438
the FAQ confirms that casualties are removed from the B2B rank first and does not provide a Slide Forward or step Up move during that phase, so if you've got 2hw the unit loses its most effective fighters.

The problem is people like this>>97461794

>>97461553
I like his mindset but fuck that idea of just collecting one army, even the "shitty" armies in fantasy have great models.

>>97461814
Collect and paint whatever.
The point of stillmania is not getting lost in the rabithole of balance and edition changes. It was also much easier when an edition could last 6 years with out significant change.

>>97461851
no, anon. Stillmania was and still is just a joke.

File: 1677445473847461.gif (2.3 MB)

2.3 MB GIF

>>97461811
I'm going to chalk this up to the undeniable fact Bongs no longer know how to speak English.
Ok, lets start by removing supporting attacks from the equation because it pointlessly obfuscates this discussion. Spears can get wrecked for all I care for this.
Step up is a referenced state where models not in the fighting rank "step up" into the fighting rank; we know those models can't fight. Models in the fighting rank "close in" on the opposing fighting rank making them in B2B since wounds are allocated to ends of a unit. Fighting rank models in B2B contact get full attacks, fighting rank models not in base to base contact but within move speed distance get 1 attack. This is exactly the same as a 10 wide 1 deep unit losing wounds. That's what it says as written.

It's also bullshit though. See, I fucking knew the faq was just going to have a dozen english errors making things worse for everyone! >>97448069

>>97461851
fair point, I understand it now.

>>97461553
gr8 b8 m8

>>97461851
This. I think a lot of people here on /wfg/ can't seem to understand Stillmania because they are actually autistic and they take everything literally instead of seeing the meaning or intention behind it

>>97461233
I will try out ironhail guns and bombs with the sky lantern for the first time.

>>97462012
Ironhails suck complete shit. 3 strength no ap hits at 11 inch range? Absolute trash.

>>97462031
AP - 1 no AB, excuse me. Still utter garbage. Just take crane guns at that point

>>97461480
They probably did this for people like me. In the beginning of the edition, I thought that models with spears, who can make supporting attacks from the second rank, would not be allowed to do so if models on the first rank die because they would "move" into the first rank, which, from my understanding back then, would not allow them to attack at all.

>>97462044
That's an understandable question, sure. Them adding first two ranks as fighting rank though just buggers with so many other rules. I do contend that in spirit its a good change to make infantry better (other than inf v inf), but its implementation is just amateurish at best.

You want a real fun example? How do throwing spears work for primal herd?

>>97462031
>>97462034
Thats the point. IHG come with dragon fire bombs and were too strong before the FAQ in my opinion, so I never used them.

>>97461233

>TQ

maybe I should get some flagellants with a prophet of doom. I also thought of an arch-lector with armour of tarnus, he can cast a bound spell and pray during the same turn, yes?

File: kewl.jpg (133.8 KB)

133.8 KB JPG

>>97461814
This. I can't ever see myself starting an army of orcs or goblins but i still want to buy and paint pic rel at some point

File: orca-image--1567139591.jpeg.jpg (170.1 KB)

170.1 KB JPG

Goats!

>>97461553
Can someone post Sneedmania

>>97461233
>TQ
I'm going to finally kitbash some centigors
please GW make a plastic kit of these things already

>>97462436
>please GW make a plastic kit of these things already
Same feeling bro, but I've been thinking of getting one kit of metal ones so when they eventually come in plastic I have some classic ones on the shelf already.

Should I expand my Renegade Crowns into a proxy of Empire or Bretonnia?

combat resolution is a fucking stupid mechanic

>>97461379
>he allow f*males in his army
I suppose your witch elves aren't femboys, either

>>97462526
go back to 40k 10th edition

>>97462526
what do you think should happen then? let's hear it

File: images(16).jpg (32.1 KB)

32.1 KB JPG

Just finished Forged by Chaos by C.L Werner. Essentially, Orcs, Chaos and Dark Elves try to obtain an arcane item for their respective faction.

It's pretty insane to see just how backstab happy Dark Elves are, I'd go far as to say they're worse than Skaven! The Orcs were fun for a time but end up as pawns of the Dark Elves, until not. Though the Orcs manage to keep to thenselves.

In the most ironic twist, the least betrayal happy faction was Chaos, Tzeentch no less, besides one member who is swiftly dealt with. The Chosen, Marauder and Sorcerer are as tight knit as one could get and also ironically, they end up being the most bonded. Urbaal the Chosen was MVP.

Was good but ends a bit abruptly.

File: 20260107_184805.jpg (1.3 MB)

1.3 MB JPG

>>97462181
Damn man, still waiting? Last I saw the command set is back in stock. It's fabulous honestly, enjoyed putting together my lads.

>>97462526
Wrong it adds a second axis of quality that a unit might bring to the main component of the game (melee combat) beyond what you get in other GeeDubs games.

A unit can be good or bad at melee (killing models)
And a unit can simultaneously be good or bad at melee (winning/stacking combat resolution)

Go back to spending 1CP to deal 1d3 mortal wounds

>>97462601

>Was good but ends a bit abruptly.

Something that occasionally happens with C.L Werner books, but i would recommend them nonetheless.

File: 1709619118736090.jpg (1.6 MB)

1.6 MB JPG

>>97462358

>>97463099
Based

>>97463099
>use paper books instead of tablets and phones
Only non-based part of this. I’m not spending a penny on GW paper that’s out of date by the time it reaches the store

>>97463144
>he still plays warhammer using GW rules

>>97463180
What rules are you playing that isn’t based on the GW rules?

Will be playing a winners tops tournament over in my LGs today, between chaos warriors and Cathay, which should I bring to ensure I get my booty ate out? I don’t have centerpieces.

>>97461868
It was a joke that was making a point(I know brocco-brains struggle with this, but before TikTok we actually had these things called "subtlety" and "wit"), and that point is correct: tourneyshits are not human and should all be murdered, armies should be built based on what is aesthetically cool and narratively interesting, and you should learn to fight and win with an army constructed on that basis rather than endlessly expanding and changing it in a futile attempt to "beat the meta" or whatever.

File: I7LJMIRY_2505161425531sbpi.jpg (118 KB)

118 KB JPG

How good are Chorfs in TOW?

>>97463099
>Transport models in a cardboard box
Nah, magnetic movement trays are your friend and stop your time-laboured models from getting all chipped and moving around in transit

>>97463298
If you triple gloss varnish your models they would not get chipped, faggot

>>97463286
They have a shitload of unit variety so you're bound to find at least one combo that works for you

>>97463286
Play using renegade rules and they’re markedly less shit

>>97463099
Kek. Though I somewhat disagree with the no female thing. Obviously things like shoehorning female Dwarfs is lame but females are an integral part to some armies like VC or Elves. Big difference between big titty goth gf Lahmians leading an army vs the fat bulldyke Marauders from the Trannyoath box.

>>97463355
go back to 40kg with your gooner shit.

File: img_1_1767071479635.jpg (182.8 KB)

182.8 KB JPG

>>97463093
Ithink he is, easily, the best Chaos writer in BL. Blood for the Blood God and Palace if the Plague Lord were very gnarly, but he depicts Chaos in all its gross and corrupt ways. That said, the best part is he humanises them. All of them. It adds a nice layer of depth to Chaos. Was a nice contrast to the Chaos followers in Beastslayer who was an awful antagonist and died in half a paragraph.

To the novel itself, one thing I did enjoy as well was the Black Orc Warboss Gorgut and his mob/army. They make it all the way to the end and he even fights a Minotaur Leader, which was cool.

Also how Werner describes the goblins jabbing at the groins of enemies in between the Orcs legs while fighting was a nice touch how orcs and gobbos actually fight in melee. It's dirty as hell.

Urbaal, the Chaos Chosen, still takes it though as he ultimately proves to be the most honourable character and in an odd way, the Chaos forces are also the most focused. I liked them being made more three dimensional a lot.

Dark Elves are absolute scum though. Chronic Backstabbing Disorder and that's not even including the other factions!

File: images.jpg (30.2 KB)

30.2 KB JPG

>>97463360
I don't design the models retard. Go back to Bible camp with your pearl clutching shit.

Are demons in a playable state in Old World?

>>97463144
Then print updated rules with the FAQs, put down that fucking phone for an hour of your life man.

>>97462526
Why? Historically morale was borderline the biggest factor in big melee pushing contests like what you see in WFB. The killing didnt happen as the sides fought, but when one side broke, ran, and was run down.

Combat resolution is a convenient way of having several relevant elements (how the combat is going (wounds), notable events (challenges) and context (press of numbers, banners, high ground)) come together to help represent this morale factor.

>>97463312
Nah, varnish is stupid and messes with your paintjob

>>97463424
Not really, no. Not competitively anyways.

You have some funky listbuilding rules, very flexible force org, but the actual units are - furies asides - very underwhelming. The greater demons in particular are kinda laughably weak.

>>97463409
Stop spiking your own cortisol over internet stuff

>>97463430
Go to hell. I read the rules once and just use old world builder to refer to the unit rules. Checking my phone for 10 seconds to check a unit profile isn’t frying your brain

>>97463430
>just drown in paper crap rather than use the convenient data format because anon is a luddite

>>97463467
>isn’t frying your brain
And you say that after admitting that you can't remember shit you read?
>>97463470
>if you want to spend the time playing a game not looking at a screen you are a luddite

>>97463489
If you want to spend your time playing a game, you wouldnt be smothering the table in random print outs and reference sheets.

>>97463439
nogames

>>97463441
I thought the BT was meant to be an absolute butcher. Is he not?

>>97463489
How is flicking through pages until you find the one you want ‘playing the game’
>ignoring your opponent to look at text
>arguably taking longer than if you’d just used ‘find’ on your fucking phone

>>97463499
No. Not in TOW. Lack of proper magic item options and the general demon weaknesses (no wards vs magical attacks), plus the wat monster lords work now, leaves them a bit fragile and low damage, at least for duelling.

They can still beat up on infantry, but theyre not going to be brawling with anyones lord.

Is there a book for WFRP regarding Arabya by any chance? 2nd edition is fine of course.

>>97463518
Would have thought killing blow would do some work. Good thing I saved cash, was gonna dip into DoC

I bet you virgins have already discussed this at some point, but I faced of an opponent last week who insisted that a full hit with a small blast is only 1 full hit and not 5 full as the template isn't covering the furthest corners of the 25mm bases
you might not be able to see it, but it can be proved mathematically
he also had some other strange takes on rules and "forgot" some, but this one specifically stuck with me

>>97463548
>you might not be able to see it, but it can be proved mathematically
That it does or that it doesent?

>>97463432
Not him but man

>killing didn't happen during the pushing

Ancient History back to the Romans shows there was still a shit ton of killing in melee, it just avalanches when one fled. This perception most people just stood there hardly killing or maiming is absurd.

>>97463238
Fine fuck you niggas, I’ll be packaging Cathay to go and play. I guess I’ll let you know how Cathay plays with the new nerfs with the banners.

>>97463494
It has worked for decades, anon.
>>97463504
Chances are that you know where to look, and I find it quicker to just flip through a couple of pages than typing and scrolling. Been good enough for years.

>>97463550
that it does
the template is 75mm across, but the curve (as it's an circle), makes it so it doesn't cover the corners furthest away from the blast point

>>97463562
Anon "the killing didnt happen during the battle, it happened when one side broke" does not literally mean that no one died while fighting, its talking about the fact that the period of intense casualties, where "the killing" happened, occured during the rout.

Obviously people died fighting, but the difference in intensity and proportion between that and "when one side breaks" is big.

>>97463567
>It has worked for decades, anon.
Tables have been covered in countless print outs and bits of paper. Yes. And now technology has come along and meant they dont need to be.

>>97463575
>the template is 75mm across, but the curve (as it's an circle), makes it so it doesn't cover the corners furthest away from the blast point
Then roll for it I guess? Tbh this is one of the reasons I dislike partial hits.

>>97463522
no sorry
The best chance is some blog posts made by former WFRP writers like Ben Scarri but i woulden't rate they quality very high

>>97463579
Pardon I phrased too literally. Yes of course people died during the scrap but just how its discussed, you'd think hardly anyone did but the Normans facing the German Swabians describes a complete charnel house. Similarly with Hastings.

So much so I often wonder if the number of deaths during Crecy were wildly undercounted for the English, less than 200 out of 9000.

>>97463439
>MUH PAINT JOB
guaranteed your army isn't even fully painted

>>97463585
Of course. The point I'm trying to make is that we have tech all around us every moment, taking a step back from it for an hour can partially balance this. But you do you in the end, I'm not your father I think

>>97463312
You would think they'd be safe with three mighty coats of varnish, but no, anon. I use gloss varnish on essentially all of my minis and I still deal with chipping issues when I transport them to games, especially if I have to take public transportation. Varnish, stick magnets under the bases, then carry them in a metal toolbox, that's what I do and chipping incidents are now very rare. Layered defenses, that's the way to go.

>>97463611

Not an expert on the battle of crecy, but could it be that only the nobility was counted when it came to English casualties?

>>97463593
I ended up rolling for them, but only getting 1 guaranteed hit and 8 partial with a grudge thrower is kinda rough

>>97463650
I don't think so, it is noted 2 knights, 40 men at arms and 100 welshmen died. I doubt all of them were nobles, if any.

Just seems absurd.

>>97463649
I've never chipped a single mini in my entire life. Perhaps you didn't prime them properly.

>public transport
Disgusting

>>97463681
No amount of priming can fully protect metal miniatures, anon. That's what varnish is for. My plastics have never chipped, but who really cares about plastic models? The metals are what you should worry about the most.
And yes, I wish I had a car too. Alas, I'm still in university and I will be for another 6 years.

>>97463681

I've noticed that my chipped miniatures have mostly been due to poor priming (horses tails and bowtips are also very prone to chipping). What would you recommend for good priming station, should the models be on an elevated position for better coverage from multiple spraying angles?

>>97463548
What kind of beta weakling lets some loser lardass walk all over them with made up rules? LMFAO whenever some dork tries this shit at my LGS I just say "nah I'm not gonna allow that" or "no it doesn't work like that" and they immediately drop the issue.
You should really try asserting yourself more. He clearly thinks he can enforce his will on you with zero consequence, and you proved him correct

>>97463504


>How is flicking through pages until you find the one you want ‘playing the game’

If you actually played any games you would know that searching for rules its not the time consuming part, its the discussion around the searched rule most of the times, presuming you have a functioning brain.

Because how in the unholy fuck would you even engage in the gaming part of this hobby if you cant handle that part or find it tiresome to that extent.

Must be because your brain is an immediate gratification addicted fuck.

>>97463562
No shit retard, no one is arguing that people didn't die during combat. They are saying that your chance of dying is 100x lower with your shield towards your enemy instead of your back

File: 1715901511687014.jpg (63.5 KB)

63.5 KB JPG

>>97463180
>>97463203
I've actually been thinking about this a lot. I don't think anyone would disagree that the core mechanics of WHFB/TOW are pretty bad, and that it's the army lists and unique abilities of each army that make the game fun.
I've been wondering about writing a different ruleset which incorporates all the innovative and well thought out mechanics in a lot of modern historical games, which capture the essence of battle better, but also keeping the army list aspect so you can still play your all your favorite Warhammer fantasy armies. I'm not talking about some generic fantasy games, but one tailor designed to fit Warhammer Fantasy armies, but with much better and more streamlined turn sequence, activation, combat, movement, etc.

Thoughts,?

>>97463812
I think assuming that people posting in a thread about a game think that game isn't good is retarded. WHFB is a good wargame.
I also think you should stop yapping and start writing. Less chirp, more work, if you will, then show us the finished product. Now go and don't return until you're done.

>>97463781
Bit late reply but yes we know. Funny thing is, seeing how people react in TF2 after winning a round, I can only imagije how ferocious a route was

>>97463812

Have you played any alternative rank and flank games like kings of war, OPR regiments or hobgoblin to compare what these games do better or worse than Warhammer?

>>97463812
Isn't that what kings of war was basically supposed to be?

>>97463856
>WHFB is a good wargame.
nice joke.

>>97463856
>WHFB is a good wargame
Not trying to cause an argument, but honestly how many other non-GW wargames have you played?
I love WHFB for the setting and nostalgia, but I would never argue that it's a "good wargame" in 2026

Books > phone/pdf > paper printouts.

>>97463890

NTA, but I've played TOW, dragon rampant and opr, which is probably the weakest out of the three, even with advanced rules. DR incorporates command friction to the base mechanics, while TOW has rules like impetuous and stupidity. It is also lot more abstracted and not really a rank and flank game.
TOW has a lot of clunkiness that detract from enjoying the game, but it has good elements like unit psychology and charge reactions. The TOW matches I played didn't really feature any gamey bullshit and I could visualise with my minds eye what was happening on the battlefield without breaking my immersion. A lot depends on who you play with.

>>97463890
The spectrum of good to bad is extremely wide and WHFB falls closer to the good side of said spectrum in my opinion. If it's playable, has decent army building, and people in my area play it, I consider it to be good. Other games might be better, but if I can't find people to play with or I don't want to play them, what's the point? The answer to your question is zero, by the way. I've only ever played WHFB and not for lack of trying. I can barely get the people in my area to play anything besides TOW and 6th, convincing them to try something like Kings of War or even T9A has proven to be impossible. You should hear some of the opinions these people have on anything that isn't TOW or 6th, man. It's rough. I'm familiar with several wargames, I just never get the chance to play them. Song of Blades and Heroes is one I've been wanting to try, but there's only one guy at the store who wants to try it and our schedules don't match.
So yeah, WHFB is good. It's something I can actually play and have a good time with and the people around me play it, so it's good.

File: Untitled.png (1.8 KB)

1.8 KB PNG

Quick rules question on charging.

Assuming the red squares are facing south towards the green. The smaller red square is in front of the big red square.

Can both red units charge the green unit? Or is the second one blocked?

File: 20260129_170223.jpg (823.1 KB)

823.1 KB JPG

Next batch of dudes with swords. Three more to go and I'm done with the unit.

>>97463964
Yes, the second one is blocked.

>>97461233
whats a good way to spice up tomb king skeletons?

their models are so plain.

>>97464025
Pimp hats.

>>97464025
Don’t paint them in khemri colors. It’s fucking hideous first of all, and secondly it’s the mark of an npc.

Maybe add some desert wild life to the bases.

>>97463964
Be honest dude... What do you think?

>>97464000
Thank you.

>>97464052
I ask because arguably, the wider rear unit has line of sight. I had this happen to me in a game and because i wanted a smooth game, i just went with it.

My gut said no of course.

>>97464070
Anon, what makes SENSE? Realistically, can a formation of dudes phase through another formation of dudes simply because they can SEE the enemy?

Make common sense common again

>>97463984
That chequerboard turned out really good!
You are making solid progress anon, I’ll have to up my game. And speaking of game, when will you get to use these troopers next?

I’m still plodding away at stormvermin, I’m actually pretty close to completion though, just got to do the red metal armour,black fur, then highlights/details on the 20.
(Then I’ve got 2 more rattling guns) , and a few command models I’ll do to relax.
I’m thinking a nice cozy batch of 10 total models. how illegally comfortable.

>>97464084
I agree with you 100% but again, you got a bloke in front of you, things are going well and he's a jolly guy, I just shrugged and said ok.

File: IMG_1508.jpg (115.6 KB)

115.6 KB JPG

can i launch my fanatics into/through my own units lol

>>97464084
You don't understand the thought process of a modern Warhammer player. They don't view the game as a fantastical battle simulation, they view the game through the lens of E sports and video games, and thus the idea of mechanics making logical sense doesn't even enter their brains. They only think in terms of game mechanics, and how they can cheese or exploit them like in an E sports tournament. If they can cheese the rules they will, because they don't care it if makes sense, they care about whether it's allowed or if they can get away with it

>>97464093
According to the rules, yes.

>>97463947
>WHFB is good compared to other wargames
>btw I've never played another wargame
You can't make this shit up

File: IMG_9553.jpg (124.8 KB)

124.8 KB JPG

>>97464105
so my cunnin plan of screening with snotlings and just obliterating them and whatevers in front of them with fanatics is legit >:)

>>97463925
DR and OPR are the most sterile and generic games available. Unit psychology and charge reactions are the standard in the majority of wargames, they are not unique to TOW, in fact they're pretty lite in TOW

>>97464112
Good is not always comparative, but you're not actually engaging with the post in the first place. Go back to /hwg/.

>>97464136
To be honest I stopped reading your post as soon as you said you have never played another game and therefore have nothing to compare it to. I mean no disrespect but this makes your opinion on the matter next to worthless. I think you're making the mistake of confusing "good" with "good enough"

>>97463594
Damn. Thanks nonetheless!

>>97464168
Fantastic, feel free to stop replying and take my advice at your earliest convenience.

>>97464088
Thanks. If everything works out around mid-February, my group should start a small campaign partially based on Lustria (6th ed rules) but placed in dense forests of border princes.

>nice cozy batch of 10 total models
The only army for which I would try that amount again would be VC if I decided to add more skeletons or some zombies. For any other project I'd pass.

>>97462331
Looking good beastbro, almost finished my ungor block

>>97464114
.....Dat's right proppa cunnin dat iz!!!

File: warhammer queek headtaker.jpg (39.9 KB)

39.9 KB JPG

Other than the karak eight peaks omnibus and rise of the horned rat, what should i read to get the complete karak eight peaks and queek headtaker lore? Queek is my favourite and i love the whole struggle for karak eight peaks. It's just a shame the two books i already listed above are expensive as fuck. reprint the thanquol novels and karak eight peaks novels GW!

>>97464328
you can read them in the pastebin in the op you fucking faggot.

>>97464335
I like to collect physical books. I probably will read them online i was just lamenting that it's hard to get physical copies

>>97464335
no need to be unkind anon

>>97464193
Why do you immediately start behaving catty and feminine instead of just having a discussion

>>97464348
furries dont deserve such treatment

>>97464361
i hate furries; i like skaven because theyre funny little guys and have fun society and lore

>>97463964
Technically it can declare the charge, and could charge but it likely won't be able too unless the distance between the small red and enemy distance is longer than shown. A charging unit can wheel to make the most units into combat, when multiple units charge the same they both move simultaneously so both units would wheel to allow the frontage to maximize. Functionally the larger one is probably going to be blocked based on distance consumed by the wheel, but it can declare the charge.

Now, as with many rules in the book, this is stupid and could/should be ignored. However are edge cases that use this principle that happen frequently. If that front red unit is for example a monster and the unit behind is a cavalry, both could easily make it in and would line up beside eachother.

>>97464328
Skarsnik is great, ignore >>97464335, he has been bitching all day

>>97463964
The only time the big red unit can charge is if they are a unit of kroxigor and the small red unit is skinks, since krox have a rule explicitly stating they can move and charge through units of skinks.

>>97464373
That was the logic applied during the situation but the wheel during a charge, people in my local interprate you can do it quite broadly. As in, say you need to do a slight curve, you can. How I understand is you can do one wheel to adjust your angle and the rest you just bolt in straight forward, where people treat it a bit like snaking.

>>97464414
I will clarify withmy opponentbefore the game next time.

>>97464446
You can snake a bit, but you only have as much movement as you roll and you measure from the dudes moving the most. From your diagram they wouldn't have the distance to maneuver.

>>97464446
You can't snake at all, it's one wheel before moving. In your example, supposing both get say, 10" charge and the enemy is 4" away, the front one can wheel west and hit the unit, the back can wheel east and hit the unit. Then they would consolidate to most units in contact.

The bigger reason is how this interacts with frenzy and impetuous which must declare charges if in front rank and charge range. So the back unit if it has frenzy must declare that charge cause. It can see it and it's in range. Otherwise you could just use a flying carpet nerd to prevent frenzy baiting.

>>97464527
I'm >>97464510
Hmm. Imma have to pull up the rules. I will acknowledge I could be wrong.

>>97464530
Double checking the rules, with TOW, you are allowed to wheel once at any point during the charge move, but just once before your models make contact with the enemy. So we were both wrong.
Don't have to wheel at the start (but can) and no snaking.

>>97464559
Good to know you can wheel later. But that just means this scenario is more likely cause little square can move forward a bit before wheeling.

Reminder not to engage with historical trolls. The trolls you are speaking to don’t have a single Warhammer fantasy model.

>>97463099
Now this i can get behind

How long till 40k and AoS players get bored of TOW and leave the game again do you reckon? Every time I have an unpleasant time playing whf or TOW it's been against someone coming from any of those games (or kill team even) and they've all been waac dudes bending the rules or outright making them up, which isn't crazy considering how TOW rules are laid out.

>>97464617
And that's a good thing!

>>97464726
40k players will leave when the new edition hits

This may be interesting to you guys. But the frogs who leaked the Wood Elves vs Tomb King box rumors were 21/22 correct on the FAQ changes (only thing they got wrong was the balloon points going up).
I am not connected to them in any way, and don't have an new info other than that, but I think that gives the box rumors some credence.

>>97464759
>Wood Elves vs Tomb King box
?

>>97464753
I dunno. I really hope 11th is better than 10th, but if it's even half as bad as the un-playtested mess that 10th was, we're going to see a lot of refugees soon.
I really hope I'm wrong. GW did show some good growth and 10th Ed is the first edition I've played (since 5th) that genuinely improved upon itself during its lifespan. Yes, there are still many, many issues, but the game is playable and mostly balanced between factions.

>>97464759
I still haven't understood if this rumor has to do with a different bundle box or all new miniatures

>>97464807
>we're going to see a lot of refugees soon
I honestly hope not. Already twice I've seen a few red flags while playing against someone, played a couple of turns and just conceded because I was getting tired of their shenanigans. It's a freaking beer and pretzels game, don't turn it into the competitive mess 40k is turned out to be

>>97464778
Some french youtuber(s?) leaked a bunch of the faq stuff like a month back, all of which turned out to be true. They also mentioned we would get a new rulebook with all the faq's included as kind of a 1.5 release, together with a more 40k/aos style starter box that would feature tk vs wood elves. An odd matchup, but one that has been randomly hinted at once I believe.
The really crazy thing is that this box supposedly will come out in the summer, which seems like financial suicide to me because you'll be competing with 40k's new edition.

>>97464807
feel most 40k refugees would probably go to Necromunda or HH than to TOW

>>97464759
>Wood Elves vs Tomb King
I really hope they're separate because I fucking hate tomb kings. Only way you can make me buy them is if they fucking ditch khemri and delve into arkhan.

>>97464898
You can always just split the box with a friend. If you have no friends in the hobby it's usually easy to find someone on the FLGS discord to split it with.

>>97464833
In 40k or TOW? Sorry to hear regardless

File: 01-013.jpg (30.5 KB)

30.5 KB JPG

Are Warrior Priests not worth it for your CC infantry blob when playing Empire. 60 points naked for LD 8, prayers and slightly more output doesn't sound bad. One of the prayers gives a 5+ ward against shooting, and another lets you and one unit within command range reroll 1's to hit and wound.

>>97464888
>>97464827
The rumor is that they described it as equivalent to a 40k or AoS starter set. Which would imply all new minis, but they didn't directly state this, just the first line about it being equivalent.

>>97464996
In TOW. I've been a 40k player since maybe 5th edition and returned to play during 9th and the begining of 10th. I used to play casually and noticed the type of people who played the game had changed dramatically and were all repressed 30-something year olds who thought their kids having enough food on the table depended on them winning a game of 40k. I've seen grown adults throwing their dice against the wall at supersonic speed while screaming their lungs out because they didn't manage to kill enough models. I'm worried because I'm seeing more and more of that behaviour in TOW lately. Last tournament I attended had players with unprimed models and even units not built completely with vacant bases. It's the first time I've seen something like that and it's a pretty common thing to see in competitive 40k and AoS

I think it's talking to itself again, it will reveal itself soon

>>97465049
No need to be worried, friend. It WILL happen to TOW, there's no question about it. I hope this clears you of any doubts you may have had.

>>97463144
Old books will be good forever

>>97464759

Can you imagine the fucking pitch meeting for that matchup
> lets take 2 niche, unpopular factions that don't even slightly represent the major world conflicts
> both of whom are defined entirely by piss-weak statlines and carried by ignoring the core rules
> neither of which uses conventional rank and flank tactics
> one is famously isolationist and landlocked, while the other can't travel beyond their borders other than boat
> don't think there's a single fucking tree in the entirety of nehekhara
> and just so happens that the tactics of one (skirmishing, fire and flee, sudden strikes) is hard-countered by the other (ignore bs modifiers, resurrection and immune to psychology)

>>97465123
>> lets take 2 niche, unpopular factions that don't even slightly represent the major world conflicts
Don't forget, one of which already had a big expensive launch box.
It's a very baffling matchup of a box supposedly coming out at a very baffling time. It being so insane makes me think the rumour is real because if you're just making shit up I think you'd do a better job to appear more credible.

>>97465123
Tomb Kings are actually above average popularity in terms of core armies.

>>97465123
>while the other can't travel beyond their borders other than boat
Why can't they march? And they can definitely fly on a bone dragon. You can probably hang a lot of skeletons off a bone dragon and still get off the ground. Not enough for an army, but for a night raid, sure.

>>97464807
I've been in /40kg/ lately and there's a decent few people annoyed at GW's insistence on named characters and move away from customisation. If it keeps up into 10th we might get some refugees, but also the grogs who scream and shit their pants over AoS/anything slightly newer are renowned, TOW has a bit of a bad reputation.

>>97464894
Nah, if people want full scale battles they won't. KT has really shoehorned itself in with it's bespoke teams and tournament focus anyway, and necro is very limited in scope.

>>97465123
The matchup will always sound the most absurd shit until it's actually tackled, only then you can start worldbuilding it

>>97465213
>into 10th
Into 11th*, doi

>>97464894
Necromunda is just a skirmish game. HH I would say yes if not for its 3rd edition being so bad.

Third is better than tow albeit.

File: images.jpg (58.5 KB)

58.5 KB JPG

>>97465123

> tfw the 5pt skeleton stands back up and blaps your 16pt T3 Wardancer because the only protection he has is a 6+ ward
> tfw your opponent didn't learn the psychology rules but it's OK because you don't know how to form up units and neither of you know how saving throws work

>>97465154
Beastmen vs wood elves would be a great starter set in comparison. And a good way to refresh both lines.
>>97465176
Tomb kings literally travel the world. They sailed to Norsca to push over the skinny kid who took their bauble.

>>97465312
A painful lesson not to get your wardancers into combat with skellingtons

>>97465318

An important distinction there is that Norsca has a coastline.

>>97464909
I’d rather it be a battleforce so I can buy it multiple times and not figure out how to trade some unwanted stuff.
>>97465318
Beastmen don’t need an update, they’re supposed to look ugly. Centigors and maybe the pig are just the only things that need a new kit.

>>97465373
>I’d rather it be a battleforce so I can buy it multiple times and not figure out how to trade some unwanted stuff.
Fair, but prepare to be somewhat dissapointed then if the rumor turns out to be true.

>>97464000
>>97464070
You are wrong. They BOTH declare a charge and can do a simultaneous charge. Bottom Red just has to get enough movement to let the big red pass.
Its 100% a legal charge for both.

>>97465123
You almost described the same issues of the bretonnia vs tomb kings matchup, and they still went with that one anyway.

File: Screenshot 2026-01-29 152542.png (245.1 KB)

245.1 KB PNG

>>97465428
Pic related. They move at the same time officially, so the bottom red unit just goes all the way to the right/left and makes enough space for the big block to actually charge in.

>>97465428
That would involve making as little base to base contact between the smaller red unit and the green unit as possible, which would break criteria 1, 2, and 3 on page 126. You cannot align the small red unit with the green unit in such a way as to allow the big red unit to make a charge that meets all four of the criteria on page 126. Also, you'd be a total faggot to even attempt this in the first place, so keep that in mind.

>>97465475
Wrong again, read the image.
When both units charge simultaneously, you are instead required to maximize base contact for both units as much as possible which depends a lot on the actual dice roll. Its very possible that small red rolls the lowest numbers possible, barely gets in, and big red also rolls poorly and cant get around them (leading to a failed charge).

>Also, you'd be a total faggot to even attempt this in the first place, so keep that in mind.
Why would following the charge rules as they are explicity written (RAW and RAI) make you a faggot? It just seems like you're mad that you misunderstood how multiple charges work.

File: Screenshot 2026-01-29 153643.png (11.8 KB)

11.8 KB PNG

>>97465475
>>97465489
Just to drill it in even further: they even say this explicity: since small red is going to move and unblock big red, big red can 100% declare the charge.

You are just wrong bro

>>97464726
I fled for basically the exact opposite reason: I want to play around with fun magical item trinkets and make an army that's not going to be very good but nice and customized.

>>97463144
>>97463298
>>97463355
>obviously inflammatory bait post
>"hmm well what about thiiis detail I don't agree with that one"
stupid fucks that's the point

>>97463099
>Transport your models in a cardboard box with no foam or protection
Genuine subhuman behavior

>>97465511
>>97464335
>>97463781
Hello Angry anon

>>97465502
But doesn't the smaller unit in front obstruct line of sight?

>>97465629
No, the edges of the big unit are poking out pretty far and have clear LoS of the green unit. You just need part of the unit to have LoS of the target, not all or even most of it.

>>97465618
that's the historical troll, he has the temperament of a hysterical woman but he is harmless if you ignore him.

>>97465429
At least Brettonia has some presence in the southlands/araby, so you can justify it more than a random Tomb King army invading Athel Loren for shits and giggles

>>97465691
Its not for shits and giggles, the War of Settra's Fury AJ says that an expeditionary force of Settra's army spotted the magical energies of Athel Loren while exploring the mountains between Bretonnia and the Border Princes and decided to investigate it to refill their magical energies.

>>97465712
That sounds extremely fucking boring and forced.

>>97465729
Go suck a dick historicalnigger

>>97465729
>Historitroon fails to understand the setting

Typical

>>97465712
>the War of Settra's Fury AJ
Which page of the AJ?

File: Screenshot 2026-01-29 163544.png (693.4 KB)

693.4 KB PNG

>>97465827
Page 14

File: 4e Army Chaos Gifts.jpg (1.8 MB)

1.8 MB JPG

>>97461233
Don't you just fucking hate Scribd? So many times when I want something I can only find it there. Like scan of LotR SBG Fellowship Rulebook or Sigmar damned Chaos Gift Cards for 4e Chaos. I couldn't find them for so long.

>>97465489
Following some rules and ignoring others does indeed a faggot make, however I will concede that I interpreted "can both red units charge the green unit" as "can both red units complete a charge against the green unit". As a result, your image does not apply in this scenario and neither does that passage about an obstructing unit moving. Yes, the models move at the same time, but there is no way to declare and complete a charge with the little red unit that meets criteria 1, 2, and 3 from page 126 that also would allow the bigger red unit to be able to align itself with the green unit. The little red unit is not going to "move out of the chargers' way" because it can't make the necessary charge for that to happen while respecting criteria 1, 2, and 3. Fundamentally, the little red unit cannot make a charge that will "bring the maximum number of models from both sides into base contact" while also being a charge that will allow the big red unit to align with the green unit.
You can indeed declare both charges, I'll give you that, but the big red unit will never be able to align with the green unit because the little red unit cannot make a charge that would allow that to happen without violating the aforementioned three criteria, which are as follows:
1) A charging unit must endeavour to bring as many models as possible within its front rank into base contact with models in the charged unit.
2) A charging unit must move by the shortest route possible to reach its charge target.
3) A charging unit must move forward in as straight a line as possible.
If the situation were different and the little red unit were littler and a bit further to the left or right, then maybe it would be possible. But in the situation anon presented, no, it's not going to happen.

>>97465953
>but there is no way to declare and complete a charge with the little red unit that meets criteria 1, 2, and 3 from page 126 that also would allow the bigger red unit to be able to align itself with the green unit.
You cannot possible know that without knowing about their movement characteristic and other special rules.
>The little red unit is not going to "move out of the chargers' way" because it can't make the necessary charge for that to happen while respecting criteria 1, 2, and 3
I am begging you to read the section on multiple charges, which overrides the base charge rules and tells you to maximize base contact with both units as much as possible.
>because the little red unit cannot make a charge that would allow that to happen
Again, you quite literally cannot know that without know their stats and special rules
Please stop giving rules advice when you clearly don't understand them.

File: Screenshot 2026-01-29 170252.png (16.4 KB)

16.4 KB PNG

>>97465953
Just to clarify more: all three of these requirements are equally important. You have to move as straight as possible and as short as possible. HOWEVER, you almost must maximize as much as possible, which when two units are charging the same enemy, includes the other unit's potential maxing as well. You work with them together to maximize BOTH as much as possible, which is why their movement AND the result of the charge roll is so important.

If they roll like all 6s for both units, you would easily be able to maneuver them both into maximizing base contact (again, taking both into account equally as the multiple charging unit section commands). If you fucked up and rolled low, the charge would most likely easily fail for big red.

>>97465822
anon the setting was written by historitroons for historitroons...

File: multicharge.png (41.6 KB)

41.6 KB PNG

>>97466015
>>97465953
Here's a chart to clarify again. The mistake you're making is not realizing that all 3 are equally important. You MUST accomplish all three, not just parts 2 and 3.

>>97466056
Only half correct on the first account, completely wrong on the second.

You guys ever get random pangs of euphoria knowing that Fantasy exists again? I know people always played older editions, but I look forward to seeing redone WoC and other classic armies, and I am excited but tentatively nervous about Kislev.

>>97466140
The chart is actually very helpful, thank you for making it. My problem with your interpretation of the situation has nothing to do with criteria 2 and 3 at this point. From what I'm understanding, you're interpreting "[...] both units must try to bring the maximum number of models from both sides into base contact." as permitting the little red unit to minimize its b2b contact so that the big red unit can maximize its b2b contact, thereby allowing both units to get a cumulative maximum amount of models in b2b contact. That's not how I interpret it. I interpret it as both units have to charge in such a way that they both, as separate, individual units, respect criteria 1. It's not cumulative, it's every unit for itself. The charge you are showcasing in diagram 3 makes it so that the little red unit cannot get the maximum amount of models it could, individually, get into b2b, while also being positioned in such a way that would allow the big red unit to be able to make contact with the green unit. This isn't accounting for movement values, special rules, the fact both units would need to wheel only a single time, etc., which are all factors that would have to be considered in an actual game. Seeing as this has been reduced purely to a question of interpretation, I can't be fucked to argue about this anymore. I wouldn't declare this kind of charge and I'm going to leave it at that. Do as you please, but know that if you ever go through with a charge such as this one, some random idiot you argued with online will disapprove of it. Have fun in your games, anon.

>>97466249
No, I feel like I'm been living in prison for over 15 years.

>>97466287
I am genuinely sorry to hear that

File: Screenshot 2026-01-29 165729.png (2.5 MB)

2.5 MB PNG

Luca has been sapping Steves weight from him slowly. Like a lich draining the soul of a person, but over years.

>>97463244
No anon, it was just a joke.

>>97465003
It's a decent buff, wolf priest is objectively best though. The bump to LD8 makes their prayers a bit more reliable. However, I still believe they should be bound enhancement spells and not LD checks.

File: charge fuckery.jpg (278.8 KB)

278.8 KB JPG

>>97466270
>argue about this anymore
NTA but I do believe this just a discussion, but done in 4chan parlance. And I respect your decision to not respond as it is basically just rules lawyering at this point already. That said, it does also have real application as I mentioned >>97464527
I use a few units that have frenzy and knowing how to do these charges properly matters.
As to the small unit being cucked out of B2B, that's also not allowed as each unit must get as many as possible, so the little unit would have its furthest model in corner to corner contact. And while I agree we can't fully debate this because of unknown rolls and units and distances etc, we can debate it on best case scenario. For example if the front unit is 6 inches away from the target, the large unit is cavalry and is most likely to have 12+ charge distance, and the target is 5-3/4" away.
As per this picture and combining it with the multiple units charging a single target part, the little unit would wheel 5" (or less as needed) and then move to get into B2B and with alignment so it has its full unit touching with furthest at corner to corner. Then the large unit could wheel the amount needed to impact with the maximum number of units it could match to the target.

>>97466462
For the 2 wound prayer?

File: f946399f272469708e13482e1591ac.jpg (486 KB)

486 KB JPG

>>97464759
That would be so sick. It would be the excuse I need to get into Wood Elfs.

I like to think I'd trade the Tomb Kings for more Wood Elfs, but decent chance I'd just end up with two armies
>>97464898
just trade them for more Wood Elfs from someone who likes Tomb Kings but not Wood Elfs, anon.
>>97465123
They're two factions that need both a push in popularity and desperately need a big wave of new plastic kits. Being in a starter would give them both

>>97465373
>I’d rather it be a battleforce so I can buy it multiple times and not figure out how to trade some unwanted stuff.
it's incredibly easy anon, you just post like "HAVE: Tomb Kings WANT: Woof Elves" and them somebody who has Wood Eves but wants Tomb Kings messages you and your off to the races

>>97466499
Yeah, the multiple wounds is amazing, but the other two also has more uses than sigmars prayers.
Swiftstride lite and forcing oponents to re-roll 6s is very nice depending on the situation.

Soulfire how ever wont do much damage, and 5+ ward against shooting is kinda meh and only decent against shooting armies, which there are few of.

>>97466541
Yeah I didnt take Soulfire into account at all. My reasoning for leaning more sigmarite was that the 5+ ward would give you utility always when not in combat and the rerolls for hits and wounds are better than forcing the enemy to reroll against you. Although it depends on what you’re trying to achieve.

I kind of overlook the swiftstride too because I assume the priest is going in a big block that’s going to sit on the biggest objective. I think for veteran state troops the sigmarite is better personally. I would use the Wolf Priest with Teutogen Guard if they were my main infantry slab, as they care about charging for the -2 AP on wolf hammers

>>97466533
Yeah, this is pretty much S.O.P. for Vs Boxes where there's a healthy community around.

File: IMG_1560.jpg (1.4 MB)

1.4 MB JPG

lowkey painting some squig hoppers no word of a lie senpai

>>97466755
Solid base coats, keep at it

>>97466140
I know this is a stupid question, but you would have to include all the movement from wheeling all this bullshit around to make the charge right? Just being within range isn't enough right? Kind of annoying if that's true because it would be really hard to tell if you rolled high enough to make the charge in this case.

File: Chords.jpg (198.7 KB)

198.7 KB JPG

>>97466807
correct.
It's not actually all that hard though, cause the wheel is very close to being the same distance. Assuming that small unit is a 5 wide unit of infantry, a 5" wheel means its moved 4 3/4" closer to the target.

Out of the Big 4 settings, Fantasy/TOW seems to be the smallest, the least supported, and with the least amount of local playing groups & players.
How would you reverse this situation?

>>97466853
Wait a little while. ToW is going to over take AoS.
>least amount of locals playing
This is the only issue, but it has a good attachment rate. I think it will continue to grow steadily.

>>97466853
reinvent the rules, draw from warmaster if you need to latch onto nostalgia
update the ugliest models, and the infantry and cavalry units that are in metal
keep the legacy factions just as supported and updated at least for rules

>>97466853
turn it into a skirmish game.

>>97466853
Why would we want to reverse the situation? You want to be treated like 40k and AoS?

>>97466887
>I think it will continue to grow steadily
This. I don't think it'll overtake AoS, people love Mahvel-esque hero bullshit, but the current low playerbase could probably be most attributed to the lack of factions and that will only get better.

>>97466807
>>97466849
Also, yes i am aware i did just say
>It's not actually all that hard
and post an image of math formulas completely unironically

File: s-l400.jpg (63 KB)

63 KB JPG

Can I use 7e army books with 6e rules?

File: IMG_1242.jpg (2.8 MB)

2.8 MB JPG

>>97467486
Yes, but 7e powercreep and general army book balance is fucked.
Use 6e or ravening hordes, or just play 7th with the shitshow.

>>97464205
Ooh I’ve done a lustria campaign before in 6e as my vampire coast! Vs welves vs savage orcs- with lizardmen defenders (played by whoever) inhabiting a bunch of non ruined temple cities. I wish you the best of luck for it, it’s heaps of fun.

I actually really want to do it again but finding committed players for a campaign is sort of fucked.

If I can offer one bit of advice :
Use a digital map to track your conquest!
I did a physical map and used mighty empire tiles blutacced on a laminated a3 which was cute as fuck but like, slightly impractical.
Build many roads- or you will get stuck for 4 turns in bogstroken.

Yeah I’m batching 20 right now and it’s a soul sucking experience, I did do 40 skeleton warriors at once though in a fit of madness a year or two ago. Never again.

For me 5 is very comfy, 10 is the limit of still practical and a tiny bit comfortable. 20 is: I want these rats marching by the end of the month.

Here’s a picture of progress.:

>>97465618
I only made the "stupid fucks" post

File: Screenshot_20251210_071444_com.instagram.android_edit_2290486164664034.jpg (172 KB)

172 KB JPG

>>97467566
Thanks anon. I have a bunch of 6e and 7e army books and I was wondering which rule set was more fitting, at this point I might do the opposite of what I said and use 6e books with 7e rules.
Nice rats btw, are you using contrast paints/speedpaints?

File: 99122709008_OGTOrcTribesBattalion02.jpg (157.4 KB)

157.4 KB JPG

>Army is called Orc and Goblins
>Battallion Box is just a bunch of Orcs and Goblins
>It's an awful start to the army
This feels like a pretty big fuck up

File: liz girl.jpg (1.5 MB)

1.5 MB JPG

>>97466853
Get a local group going.

Like, what other answer could there possible be? If you want more groups and players, start a group to attract players. What the fuck else could you do? Are you stupid? Are you some kinda big fuckhead?

>>97467590
That’s okay anon, honestly a few of the factions 6e books were their 7e books! (Wood elves for example) -
Dwarves had 2 books, their 7e one came right at the end of 6e.
Honestly for whatever us basket weavers reccomend it’s going to be ultimately whatever you and your friends want.

But I strongly advocate for 6th if you don’t want to do modern tow, longest support time of any Ed means it has the largest variety of factions heaps of variant faction releases for each faction. - overall pretty good army book balance if you aren’t a cunt with masses of jezzails or welfs stinkier lists. And importantly some hero has made a web rules app with all the faqs and wh annuals cooked in:
https://6th.whfb.app/

And mobile phone compatible list building tools(new recruit) pretty much cover every faction but the cookiest variants lists makes it pretty accessible imo.

And yes , thanks speedpaints are an absolute lifesaver. I’m so glad I only have to do basetone wash highlight on key pieces instead of large areas, it’s so laborious.
I’m using contrast for base tones like skin and cloth then highlighting to save my sanity- though atm no highlights still of course.

>>97466335

Is this physique attainable natty??

File: Yagi no musume break out.jpg (470 KB)

470 KB JPG

Fist bumps to my beast brethren

>>97466957
lol, you literally read my mind looking at your image.

>>97467738
Super useful link anon, thanks a lot. And good luck with your ratbois, hope you'll post a pic of the finished minis one day. Cheers!

>>97467486
Yes, you should. Reject modernity (TOW). Embrace tradition (6e).

>>97467678
>Orcs and goblins are an awful start to an army of orcs and goblins
What should it have had instead?

>>97467678
>>97467874
I bought this box for $110 a little while back because I assume it wasn’t selling. Not a fan of them catching a stray this errata but they are in investment for the future

>>97467874
Black orcs and night goblins. For some reason they havent allowed common goblins to be relevant since the skulls pass set was released

>>97467678
>battallion boxes should only consist out of minmax meta units

Are dragon ogre profiles a good proxy for juggernaut riders? Both are tough, monstrous cavalry.

File: goatbobs.jpg (228.2 KB)

228.2 KB JPG

>Opponent plops down pic related as his brayshaman
What do?

>>97468258
Give him a 27 minute long lore explanation about does and why that model is antithetical to Beastmen lore

>>97468264
Chaos works in mysterious ways

>>97468215
Well the alternative is chosen knights, so kinda.

>>97468258
I wouldn't mind, it's a cool miniature, unlike most porn figures

>>97467486
Ironically 6th ed books are generally regarded as better while the 7th Ed rules are a tightened 6th. So your going the wrong direction.

>>97468258
Start looking for an escape route as he next pull out a magnum XXL Bad Dragon dildo as his herdstone

File: IMG_7599.jpg (53.9 KB)

53.9 KB JPG

>>97468200
Either that or make everything usable. Common goblins should have netters and night goblins should have impetuous. Black orcs should not be core

>>97468197
in what way could you make them releant other than being cheaper than ng, which only works to a point because even if you could get 80 goblins for the same points as 20 night goblins, ng are still going to be better.

File: 20260129_204538.jpg (878.5 KB)

878.5 KB JPG

What are some neat ideas for burgonet-style helmets I could convert for my Nurgle mercenary-themed army?
The default barbute doesn't do it for me anymore and I have a bunch of Empire Pistoliers heads to mutilate.
I'd also take suggestions for any other type of late medieval/ early modern helmets. Got a fair number of sallets already though.

Pic related. It's a shitty pic of some WIP chaos helmets in case you didn't notice.

>>97468215
I'll allow it.

3 Cathay battalion boxes should be enough to have a sizeable army, right? Means that I would only need to buy the few character boxes?

>>97468499
You should grab 1-2 and wait for the Cathay peasant box as that’s a fomo box so higher priority to grab

>>97467743
Fist bump brodiddlyo


Thanks to the points drop on Minotaurs my shaman got a new mutation for my 500pt list.
What are you bringing in your list with your gibs?

>>97468499
Are you really sure you want 3 ligmas, 6 artillery pieces, 30 cavalry models and 90 infantry ones
no dragon or statue or incoming ranged units?

get one battalion and start with that, if you need larger unit sizes for those units make unit fillers

File: Legionari.jpg (120.8 KB)

120.8 KB JPG

>>97468459
are these burgonets?

>>97468499
Ditch this idea and build an Empire army instead!

File: itsyou.jpg (27 KB)

27 KB JPG

>>97468499
the whale, everyone

>>97468197
>they havent allowed common goblins to be relevant since the skulls pass set was released
they will be obligated to make them relevant now with aos keeping night goblins for themselves and their only normal goblins being on wolves, so now tow has to focus a release on updated normal goblins

>>97468538
I think of them more as morions.

I got atleast one more of the open faced ones that I'm going to further chaosify, so if you got suggestions I'm all ears. Something like merging a PBK mask or a plaguebearer head as a face plate to it could be one way to go I suppose. Finding a suitable fit that allows me to turn cheekguards etc into the visage of a fanged mouth would also be pretty neat. Especially since I'm looking to find a way to include a Biting Tongue as the gift for one of my Knights.

>>97468499
one batallion plus one reinforcement box is more than enough

>>97468400
>everything usable
everything is usable simply by having rules. but a WAAC-faggot wouldnt understand.

>>97468499
3 is massive overkill unless you play 3k+ games

Even 2 you won't end up using everything from. Once you get miao, a shugengan lord and a sentinel a single battalion box will push you close to 2k pts if not over.

File: IMG_20260130_124537.jpg (219.3 KB)

219.3 KB JPG

>>97468573
Only thing that comes to mind is to get them printed and start from there
mirliton has a pair of metal helmets but I'd guess they're not ideal to work with

File: 01-render-5.png (493.8 KB)

493.8 KB PNG

>>97468740
there are some higher renders for grotesque ones you could try to shrink down as well
it's not hard to imagine a barbed tongue coming out of this one

>>97466140
Jesus christ, legit thank you for going through the effort of making this. I was the OP of this subject and it makes sense. You have also opened up my tactics quite a bit instead of bloody waiting in an infantry block traffic jam.

File: img_1_1768897769722.jpg (179.7 KB)

179.7 KB JPG

Path to Glory starting in 3 weeks but lists submission this weekend.

We are starting at 500 points.

For an Infantry block of 16 big uns. Champion and standard. Shields+light armour

Do i

1. Give them frenzy banner
2. Give them war banner for extra +1
3. Invest 25/35 points in more bodies

The rest of the list is

- Orc Big Boss, Great Weapon, Meteoric Iron
- 16 HW+Shield Orc Boyz
- 10 Orc Archers with Skirmish
- 5 Frenzy Boar Boyz with shields and boss

>>97465845
based. how are Tomb Kings so fucking cool?

File: Maybe more khornate but you get my drift.jpg (79.2 KB)

79.2 KB JPG

>>97468740
>>97468744
Thanks for the suggestions on things to print. They look like they could have made for some good bases to work from. However, my plan is to rely on bits I've already have with a helping of greenstuff to tie it together. What I'm really looking for is inspiration for what sort of grotesque, yet vaguely real life-based helms that would be fitting a Border Princes-adjacent follower of Nurgle that has got ahold of Chaos Armour.

That fish-chicken helmet swalloving a man which >>97468744 posted is the kind of wacky stuff I'm talking about albeit with ideally a Nurgle spin.

File: 2402652b6bb9ae60f35ec526f5c7057c.jpg (70.7 KB)

70.7 KB JPG

>>97468258
Beastmen are already incredibly erotic, trying to sexy the up by adding tits is missing the point about as badly as you can. You don't fuck the Beastmen, the Beastmen fuck you. That's the whole point.

wood elf chariots are fucking retarded as a concept and I hate people trying to bring it back up as a want.

>>97468502
>>97468531
>>97468539
>>97468546
>>97468604
>>97468640
Sorry, just got off work and remembered my earlier question regarding Cathay. The 3 boxes thing wass mainly because that would give me the 6 cannons and an even number of dragon warriors. Hard to explain, but I can´t stand the fact that a lot of battalion boxes seem to to halve a miniature units often. Basically get 1,5 warrior boxes in there while 2+ battalions would give me 3+ complete warrior boxes.

Jade lancers are kinda dogshit

>>97468955
>You don't fuck the Beastmen
>implying you shouldn't assfuck the beastlord after defeating him to teach the whole herd they're still nothing but uppity cattle
Reiklanders, I swear

>>97469059
Are we getting a re-release?

>>97469072
I think they're already released

>>97469059
>+1 free heroe

>>97469080
Felix is ESL please understand.

File: IMG_20260130_145310.jpg (382.8 KB)

382.8 KB JPG

>>97468890
?

trying to avoid suggesting more conventional "grotesques" designs

>>97469219
you would like turnip28

>>97468955
>Implying that's not a beast man
Let me elucidate you on the joys of Slaanesh

File: d87fec50680bd3f0c012ecb71fa45fb6.jpg (167.8 KB)

167.8 KB JPG

>>97469044
It's against the natural order! The Gods created Beastmen to rape and pillage, not the other way around you degenerate pervert.

File: IMG_20260130_150259.jpg (405 KB)

405 KB JPG

>>97469219
>more conventional "grotesques" designs
because otherwise those are just ugly faces and beasts on the visorguard, on the top or on the crest

and you can do all the same with nurgle by using bugs, maggots, frogs, demons or normal faces, as long as the mutated warrior underneath is visible for contrast (like the one in the top left where you could have a big cyclopean eye hiding behind a normal sculpted face)

some paint schemes for the new marauder models
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/eqv2wtdn/new-chaos-marauders-make-pillaging-look-pristine-thanks-to-warhammer-studio-painters/

I dont like gooners.

File: 99122701003_ChaosWarriors1.jpg (155.1 KB)

155.1 KB JPG

>>97469059
OK, I understand GW's house painting style now. The obsession with sharp highlights really makes the minis and their details stand out. If you don't do that, if you go with a more subdued or grimdark style, like those Avatars of War guys, they don't work for promotional pics half as well because everything blends together

File: tow_studiomarauders-jan30-image8_quinn-atzh3tish4.jpg (368.3 KB)

368.3 KB JPG

>>97469278
wew was almost worried gw wasnt going to include some diversity quota in here.
On a more serious note these marauders look kinda boring, really wish they were more cultish, idk. Maybe i've been to awed by looking at trench crusade kitbashes lately.

>>97468827
War banner or bodies man, good luck! Make sure to post some pictures of cool battles or I’ll kill you.
(Id take the frenzy banner if you are running a savage ork fluffy list though)

>>97469278
>article about showing different schemes
>it's all similar shades of grey or brown with at best some red, green or blue
shit they've got furs and noone considered doing spotted or tiger patterns or paint the shit in slightly chromatic colors to imitate bird feathers?

>>97469293
So you see an article about how you can paint the marauders any way you want, and your takeaways were you're mad that it's possible to paint the marauders with dark skin, and also you can't figure out how to make them look more cultish because all the examples were painted in fairly subdued schemes.
My man, you know "you can paint them however you want" goes both ways, right? Some rando online can paint their marauders with dark skin and you, some other rando online, can paint them with body paint and scars and sigils and shit.
>Maybe i've been to awed by looking at trench crusade kitbashes lately.
then fucking kitbash the marauders! Jesus christ dude, you suck so bad.

>>97469316
>then fucking kitbash the marauders!
They're not as good for a base as the old marauders were. Also im not mad, its just that this article overall just had nothing of note. They didnt even try displaying what a low quality paintjob could look like on these models that they usually do with HH and 40k.

>>97469287
Yes, what I've been saying for years through people crying about "muh female faces"

>>97468258
No joke this was one of the models I had looked at for my list. But it's a Gor, not a corrupted elf so, ended up with this.
>>97442587