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>Thread Question: If you could select one 4chan board to collectively produce a 3-5 page CYOA, which would you choose? The resulting OC must be themed after the board subject. If you like, you may also specify a single general within that board.
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It's impossible to survive any of the origins btw
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>Optimal Paths to Great Old One
>Lord of Mysteries:
S9-4: Fool.
S3: Fool (preferable) or Door. S3 Fool's ritual is already completed in all origins except In Modern Day, in which it is unacceptable.
S2-0: Fool.
>God Almighty:
S9-5: White Tower.
S4: White Tower (preferable) or Visionary for s3 Hanged Man's advancement ritual.
S3-1: Hanged Man.
S0: Visionary (preferable) or Hanged Man.
>Eternal Darkness:
S9-4: Darkness.
S4: Darkness (preferable) or Twilight Giant. There are no true gods In Modern Day yet, so S4 Darkness' ritual is impossible there.
S3-0: Darkness.
>Calamity of Destruction:
S9-5: Demoness.
S4: Red Priest.
S3-2: Demoness.
S1-0: Red Priest.
>Demon of Knowledge:
S9-0: Paragon. Hermit is pursued by knowledge (which can turn you insane) and can easily suicide by accidentally looking at things they're not supposed to.
>Goddess of Origin:
S9-0: Mother. The Mother Goddess of Depravity has too much influence over the Moon, including making its s0 ritual impossible.
>Father of Devils:
S9-0: Chained. Abyss turns you insane.
>The Anarchy:
There is almost no information on its rituals, and information on its abilities is incomplete, so this is TBD.
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Posting again; didn't get a chance to build yesterday or whenever it was
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>Thread Question:
/k/. Because warlord of fan/k/sia was really good, so I'd expect them to do well the next time also.
Also I don't know many boards well. The few that I do know well, I'd have very low expectations for.
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I'd choose /lit/ to make a CYOA for the Second Apocalypse series. It's notorious there and constantly shitposted over, but I feel it could make a compelling CYOA. It would also outrage powerscalers and immortalityfags, while simultaneously exulting both. The universal and unconditional damnation alone would generate untold amounts of discussion.
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Planning on reincarnating at the same time Evernight mommy awakens from the sephira castle so we can both help each other on our journeys towards godhood and become divine lovers. Is it a viable strategy?
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>TQ
/quest/ hands down, there are some insanely talented and imaginative QMs over there. Not to mention quests translate easily into CYOA format since they're both choice games. They are our sister board after all.
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Sad to see so much pessimism regarding the present and future of /cyoag/ as I look through the previous thread. I think this place can see another golden age if we all foster (on-topic) discussion and play to our strengths/interests. It's encouraging to see (or at least think I see) more people talking about classics in the last few months, and some stuff like the anon from last thread who compiled revisions to the AllSync for AllSyncAnon. There's not really any reason to leave it to the shitposters - all they can do is take up space
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As a hikikomori NEET that's in danger of being homeless, I like this CYOA.
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https://lordofthemysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Advancement#Switching_Pathw ays
>at High Sequences, a Beyonder can switch to a Neighbouring Pathway without the danger of losing control, or the accumulation of madness
>Under usual circumstances, sticking to a single pathway until the end was generally the better choice than switching to a neighbouring pathway [because of various conditions]
Once again, there's no problem with switching pathways as long as all conditions are fulfilled.
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>YOU WILL POST DANMACHI OR ELSE YOUR MOTHER WILL STUB HER TOE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
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>In Modern Day
Only dead meat choose this one. There's no preexisting secret organizations so materials will be scattered around at random. Can't divine? Then your chances of even getting the potion ingredients you need are basically nil, and even the low level divination you're capable of isn't a guarantor of advancement.
Klein had the Tarot Club, that one underground Beyonder gathering, divine help, and millennia of ruins, plots, and history to discover and profit from. You have nothing but metaknowledge.
And that doesn't even mention how much larger the sandbox is this time around. Density of Beyonder stuff is going to be lower for that reason alone. How is a penniless (You) even supposed to travel around to begin looking for the stuff you need? There's no hope.
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https://novelfull.com/lord-of-the-mysteries/chapter-219-explanation.ht ml
>“The so-called Similar Sequence refers to how High-Sequence Beyonders are exchangeable with other pathways.
>“Let me give an example. The Death pathway’s Sequence 5, Gatekeeper, can not only be advanced normally, but one can also choose the Giant pathway, which is the Gatekeeper pathway’s Sequence 4, Demon Hunter.
>“This won’t lead to the danger of losing control, nor will it accumulate madness. It’s different from taking the wrong potion.
Directly quoting from the novel.
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My personal build was
>Goblin Sewers
>Knight
>Waystones+Monster Book
>Traveling Merchants+Shopkeepers
>Hags
Just a big, armoured bruiser plodding around in the sewers, coated in rust and gore, nimble spear in one hand, overfull bag of goblin loot in the other. I'm paranoid by nature so the hags are certain not to get the drop on me, unless I slip up, which I might. My heart's not made of stone.
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I'm not reposting another multi-page Tok CYOA until he makes a new one that straight men can enjoy.
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My mom sleeps with my dad, and he's an old schlub that gets psychotically violent at the drop of a hat. He's far faster than someone his age should be, has freakishly high grip strength from a childhood spent on crutches, and is notorious among geriatrics for how murderous he was in his youth. Legally he should be in prison, but he was able to cover his tracks. I have no doubt he'd gut Tok and mutilate his corpse in short order if he tried to lay hands on my mother.
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I don't want to be "THE STRONGEST" anymore. Before I was terrorized about the guys above killing or raping my companions or stealing my stuff because they can but perhaps I was just projecting. Also obsessing over power is like obsessing over money IRL, it's an eternal road that takes everything from you and I don't want to let that gray dystopia invade my imagination. Being the strongest is just a coping mechanism.
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Thank you anon. Which was your build and preferred order of regions? For me, it's Goblin Sewers > Prison of the Ancients > Fungal Bloom > Temple of Forgotten Gods > Forge of the Final Battle. My reasoning is that it's best to get the regions I'd find more difficult or painful out of the way first, so I'll find each successive ones easier in contrast. Forge of the Final Battle would be number three for me, but I want to duel at least one demon, and it'd be reckless to try before I'm at the peak of my strength.
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CYOAs for this feel?
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I think for build I would have to go with,
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Location: Goblin Sewers
Path: Ranger
Boons:
>Monster Encyclopedia
>Player Home
Friendly Locals:
>Adventurers
>Travelling Merchants
Hostile Group: Dark Knights
I may switch out the ME for the Dungeon Map. But I feel like Ranger has pretty good survivability. Plus I may be able to train some giant rats.
The Player Home having a fresh spring also helps make up for the lack of readily available fresh water in the sewers.
As for regions I think it would go
>Fungal Bloom
>Sewers
>Temple
>Prison
>Forge
Just based off of what I think would be easiest/comfiest to survive in/live off.
While the other area's all have drawbacks I would personally just find the forge a wholly unpleasant place to be. I don't like heat.
Funilly enough it being a large, open and probably well lit area would probably make it the easiest place to pick off enemies at a distance.
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>LOCATION: fungal bloom
>PATH: warrior - monk
a bit conflicted about forgoing weapons and armor, but the magic resistance and the boost to physical stat growth is too tempting.
I could also take advantage of this drawback to choose fungal bloom since it has few equipment but a lot of food/water.
>BOONS: bonefires, waystones
safe zones are a must, everyone rests at some point so it's extremely valuable to have this one
waystones are more for timesaving than anything else
>CONTACTS: travelling merchants, shopkeepers.
just because I don't use weapons/armor doesn't mean I won't use any item, consumables and maybe enchanted clothing would be nice to have.
>HOSTILE: dark elves
elves are the ones who will drop loot which I can then sells
I see a lot of anons take dark knights for the "I'm built different" experience, but I think that's just shooting yourself in the foot.
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I see this cyoa is what inspired Icescape, interesting.
Location:
>Forge
Sparse enemies, valuable resources.
Path:
>warrior (Assassin)
Lots of helpful boosts to avoid an untimely end.
Bones:
>Book
>map
Information is the greatest commodity in war.
Friendly:
>Shopkeepers
>Adventures
The second greatest commodity is friends.
Hostile:
>Dark Knight
Tough to crack, but can be outmaneuvered. Their defeat would grant a sizeable boost.
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High image quality.
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>Wing
Temple of Forgotten Gods
>Path
Zealot - Trickster
>Boons
Bonfires
Book
>Friendly
Anchorites
Fairies
>Hostile
Slavers
trying to counter the detriments of crossing gods and spirits with the benefits of the trickster path, safe haven at bonfires, study of the book, curse-lifting anchorites, and hopefully amusing the fairies during my stay
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Who are you? I hope it's a range of people offering these higher quality versions, but I suspect it may be one or two. In any case you have my undying love, even though I hardly ever save these
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>Who are you?
Someone who values eyes.
>I hope it's a range of people offering these higher quality versions, but I suspect it may be one or two.
I have yet to see anyone but me do it.
>I hardly ever save these
( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
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Only Abyss pathway is a trap due to its inherent qualities. And even then, some anons might not even care about being a malicious devil. Many things that make other pathways dangerous simply don't exist In Modern Day scenario.
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You make me very happy, anon. Thanks for your toil. My eyes are ruined already, so these things don't do much for me. It's a major historical service however. I hope you've considered sharing them in full somewhere else, so that they aren't lost for anyone who misses your posts
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Enough!
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Devourer is so fucking ass
How many people do you unironically expect to have taken true immortality?
War god is, on the other hand, busted, as you benefit from the collective efforts of every other war god
You can also pick ancient mysteries with the temporary points and then drop it once you've spent the cube
Anyway:
Reincarnation (-40)
Divine memory (-10)
War god (-25)
Portal maker (-20)
War god points into:
Godly mind
Double trouble
I openly admit my existence to the public and set up a portal that connects disparate parts of the earth
This identity is disposable, as I can get new ones any time I like with reincarnation. As of such my main goal should be to bring about useful social changes and to amass political power.
There will likely be many nuscinces among the other demigods so I need to act with extreme haste to ensure I am among the first recognised by governments
I don't think lab disection will be an issue as there will be people dumber then me also going public and trying to fight crime or whatever bullshit
Worst comes to worst I kill myself and try to be subtler next time
I also buy up some land in the centre of each continent and build mansions there
So that I can have teaparties with my fellow war gods
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They have an artistic temperament
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Post you're build.
>Constellation
Limit
>Greater Wish
Living Legend
Setting: Anime Fantasy World
Power: Super Speed
>Lesser Wishes
Epic Fate
Regular Girlfriend
Altered Body
Magical Weapon
Ultimate Immunity (Ice)
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Being a god seems like too much work. You'd probably have other gods constantly picking fights with you, especially if there are multiple universes. I'd rather just be a fantasy hero and defend villages from demons.
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Wouldn't that also be a ton of work? Except now I also don't get the power and freedom that comes with being a god. Do other gods even exist here? Also I have Blessed Life which should deal with that handily.
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Novice in all (-24)
Logic Master (-3)
Esprit de corps Master (-3)
Authority Master (-3)
Drama Adept (-1)
Half life Adept (-1)
Composure Adept (-1)
The mathematics at the top is horribly wrong
There isn't a world here so I suppose I'll just become king
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Reaction Speed (Master)
Savoir Fair (Master)
Endurance (Master)
Pain Threshold (Master)
Physical Instrument (Master)
Electrochemistry (Master)
Composure (Master)
Authority (Master)
Volition (Master)
I would also like to be a king. I think I will take Hawaii, or at least one of the islands.
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Unironically, Tok. Bro has gone full schizo just from getting talked down to. He also has done a lot of other shit that it is too big to list because he is an actual narcissist.
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I like JRPG Traitor and might actually steal the whole "squad selection" presentation in its entirety. Although I feel like six characters per slot might be more optimal because it allows you to focus on them and their story more. But then again, it depends on what sort of story framework and world it's all based on.
Also picking events to fill your story arc is really neat, might steal that too.
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You're in luck then, since Hentai Heroine will be greatly enjoyed by straight men!
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Maybe I'm just jaded, but I've seen people so many times post so much weird and disturbing stuff just to farm disgusted/shocked reactions from anons because they are THAT desperate for attention, that I have a hard time believing Tok of all people.
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>you are implicitly give consent to other stronger anons to fuck your waifu and get her pregnant.
That's stupid, anons won't want a waifu that is tainted by another man's cock, they'll just team up to beat you 5v1 in a revenge fueled rage, but if you impregnate their waifus without sex, then the waifus will remain undefiled. Anons will keep their waifus and be far less angry, they'll simply get rid of the baby when it's born, leaving you free to claim your long awaited investment.
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There's also the time commitment. Being THE STRONGEST means you have no time to spend fucking waifus. All your time will be funnelled into maintenance of your status as THE STRONGEST, or else you stop being THE STRONGEST.
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>Oh this guy? Yeah that's the infamous Lord Darkblood Coldmurder, the same guy who led the genocide crusade. Yeah he mellowed out alot after the 10th session of my special evil rehabilitation therapy. Now he mostly bakes pastries and splashes in the pond naked all day long.
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Its only disturbing if you're an evil powerfag.
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In the flesh!
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Sorry guys, I'm already the strongest. I think second place is still open though.
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Believe me anon I would NEVER make them do something they don't want to do. My special evil rehabilitation therapy is just a fancy name for psychological aid.
You see, Powerfags have EXTREMELY fragile minds that shatter into a million pieces the moment they lose. With my help they come back a better, happier person, with some "adjustments" of course.
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>Oh this guy? Yeah that's the infamous Lord Darkblood Coldmurder, the same guy who led the genocide crusade. Yeah he mellowed out alot after the 10th session of my special evil rehabilitation therapy.
Yep, that's me, I'm totally not disguising myself so I can get more special evil rehabilitation therapy.
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I'm kinda short-staffed at the moment, all those needy edgy boys keep me very busy. I'm don't mind a little help tho, maybe one "Therapist" anon for each brand of mental illness you listed?
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>Its not gay to kiss boys, its only gay if you let boys kiss you.
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I have no response, I consneed.
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> Wing
Prison of the Ancients
> Path
Miser
> Boons
Waystones
House
> Locals
Travelling Merchants
Adventurers
> Enemy
Dark Knights
Money money money. With my invocation I should be capable of fixing the advanced machinery in the Prison and making loads of money off it, as well as saving some for personal use. Dark Knights can hopefully be juked via waystones.
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>Forge of the Final Battle
I feel bad for the slaves but they would work well as skelly folder until I can amass enough dead to challenge demons and steal their magic knowledge. Plus I could arm my undead minions there. I'd rather have straightforward physical enemies to fight rather than shit-smeared goblin traps or incorporeal ghosts or maddening whispers or whatnot.
>Mage - Necromancer
Pretty straightforward, keeps me out of harm's way and allows me to make servants. Considering the CYOA doesn't give you super senses or fear immunity or whatnot if it was actually me in that situation, having some bodies between myself and the enemy would be great. Mages are able to learn other specialization's spells which is good for utility and Necromancy traditionally is also the easiest way to become immortal (lichdom), we'll see whether it's possible when we get there. Hopefully "basic spells" the old man teaches involve some form of undead reanimation, otherwise I might have to bludgeon malnourished people to death at first.
>Bonfires + House
Way to make an area for resting safe + a hidden base is a great combo. I could stockpile a lot of skeletons there to reanimate later too.
>Shopkeepers + Anchorites
I could probably trade spare weapons and armor for necessities. And anchorites are useful because I have no idea how magical healing in that world works. One infected wound can kill you in the real world though.
>Dark Knights
Nothing says they can ignore bonfires and they're a straightforward enemy, if powerful. Could probably try to kill them from ambush or use traps against them. Worst case scenario, swarm them with skeletons and run away.
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Its a shame that cyoa have underwent the same "graphics bloat" as video games. Used to be anyone with paint and some images could make a cyoa, but now everything is expected to have production value, this kills new authors coming along and we end up with an ever shrinking number of remaining veteran authors making less and less cyoa with longer and longer production cycles.
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>>97466607
What are the options even going to be in that shit?
>"Yeah, so I progress from Butffuck 9 to buttfuck 8 ... to buttfuck 0 and acquire pathway Buttfuckness and become a god then a Great Old Buttfuck!"
Such riveting storytelling! I fucking love chinkslop!
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The power systems (somewhat) works in the context of the story but if you'd adapt it into, say, a video game or a CYOA it's extremely boring because "ideal" progression is linear and switching pathways generates madness. Plus pretty much everyone without plot armor is fucked because they're all being groomed into being god food or resurrection fodder.
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>>97470198
Lovingly handmade indie studio CYOAs that remind you of simpler, happier times when?
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There's plenty of bad indie games, but indie studios have been kind of the only source of just about ANY good games for quite a while now. Did any big studio release anything last year that can even try to compete against Silksong...?
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>and tok I guess
Fuck you anon I am Tok and I make pretty CYOAs, pic realted
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>>97470441
How can you look at this and call it ugly, are you fucking blind?!??!
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>>97470457
pca is still the goat for that cyoa
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This reminds me, why isn't Spirit Conscript listed PCA's folder allsyncAnon?
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>>97470456
Incredible artistic cohesion. I can't even tell those pictures apart, their style is so similar!
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>brown background
>shitty stock images with yellow borders
Disgusting.
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>second woman's realistic style
>last guy's cartoony ass expression
lmao, and that swede jeet is going to defend this shit while shitting all over the threads when another author dares to put an anime image in.
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>>97470517
His disorder basically means he'd allow people to step all over him and piss in his mouth if he felt like they validated his existence even slightly. I'd feel pity for him if he wasn't a well-poisoning hypocrite
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>tfw you write a race selection page and feel very cool and accomplished
>but then you read it and realise it's literally just 4 types of humans, beastfolk (aka humans with tails and animal ears) and half-elves (aka humans with pointy ears)
Aw fuck it, it's not a bug it's a feature, humans are just so adaptable they turned into different races themselves, I just want to move on to other pages, with classes and stuff
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>Human (Undead)
Now it's CYOA time.
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That looks like ass tok, whatever (little) merit it may have is entirely carried by you finding maestronoobs gallery and using it. Your visual design skills are bad, and this cyoa isnt an exception. It doesent even have a background theyre just floating in empty fucking space.
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> Immortalityfag
Symptoms: Subject is characterized by a fixation on immortality or indefinite survival. This often manifests as All-or-Nothing Thinking, where any outcome short of permanence is treated as failure. Discussions tend to circle back to loopholes, resets, backups, or metaphysical escapes from death.
Cause: Likely rooted in thanatophobia, compounded by loss aversion and a strong attachment to continuity of self. The obsession may also function as a defense against uncertainty and entropy.
> Solvefag
Symptoms: Interprets every situation as a puzzle to be optimized rather than an experience to be lived. Shows a bias toward utilitarian calculus, effective altruism, or min-max reasoning, even when the context is narrative or emotional.
Cause: Discomfort with ambiguity and open-ended outcomes. Problem-solving becomes a coping mechanism to maintain control and reduce anxiety.
> Waifufag
Symptoms: Centers their identity and decision-making around one or more romantic interests. Other goals, themes, or characters are deprioritized unless they serve this attachment.
Cause: Idealization of love due to its absence or perceived scarcity. Often tied to escapism and a desire for unconditional validation.
> Coomerfag
Symptoms: Exhibits autogynephilic or highly sexualized fantasy patterns. Scenarios rapidly collapse into repetitive hedonistic loops, with diminishing narrative complexity.
Cause: Compulsive sexual behavior or hypersexuality. Fantasy is used to self-soothe, leading to escalation and narrowing of interests.
> Powerfag
Symptoms: Displays monomania about being "the strongest." Operates under All-or-Nothing Thinking: either absolute dominance or irrelevance. Measures worth through comparative power.
Cause: Mix of ego inflation and fear of loss. Projection is common, with others framed as threats by default.
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> Purityfag
Symptoms: Obsessively tracks sexual or relational "purity" of characters and judges them against rigid thresholds. Individuals who cross these lines are dismissed or devalued.
Cause: Masculine insecurity regarding comparison with past partners, combined with black-and-white morality and a desire to preserve idealized states.
> Minionfag
Symptoms: Focuses on amassing followers, units, or allies, often favoring charisma-based or coercive strategies. Values scale and leverage over depth.
Cause: Control fallacy and distrust of autonomy. Relationships are instrumentalized to reduce perceived vulnerability.
> Lorefag
Symptom: Overcommunicates background, themes, and meta-meaning. Loses sight of pacing and accessibility, alienating participants seeking a lighter or faster experience.
Cause: Hyperfixation on setting and internal consistency. Validation is sought through completeness rather than engagement.
> Lolifag
Symptom: Expresses attraction toward fictional minors and openly centers this preference in fantasy contexts.
Cause: Attraction to juvenile traits, whether physical or psychological. If focused on mental state, it may reflect regression or avoidance following negative adult relationships.
> Moralfag
Symptom: Defines themselves by a strict moral code and applies it universally. Interactions are filtered through moral evaluation.
Cause: Could stem from principled rigidity or fear of moral collapse. Personalization leads them to interpret disagreement as moral threat.
> Chaosfag
Symptom: Engages in disruption through misinformation, derailment, and performative ignorance. Provocation is prioritized over resolution.
Cause: Reliance on schadenfreude and stimulation-seeking. Disruption substitutes for meaningful participation.
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> Samefag
Symptom: Adopts rotating personas and shallow imitations of other archetypes. Genuine positions are obscured to avoid accountability.
Cause: Low confidence and avoidance of consequences. Persona-shifting functions as emotional armor.
> Doomfag
Symptom: Rejects the premise due to a perceived fatal flaw. Belittles scenarios and emphasizes futility to dampen others' engagement.
Cause: Learned helplessness or envy-driven spite. Catastrophizing and crab-bucket dynamics are common.
> Metafag
Symptom: Rapidly breaks or transcends constraints to keep things "interesting." This removes attrition, trade-offs, and tension, creating social friction.
Cause: Overactive imagination, resistance to authority, and low tolerance for constraint. Treats rules as prompts rather than binding structures.
> Miseryfags
Symptom: Seeks maximum grit and cost. Willingly sacrifices characters, resources, or outcomes to intensify suffering.
Cause: Ranges from masochistic tendencies to belief in redemptive suffering, personal challenge-seeking, or morbid curiosity.
> Rulesfag
Symptom: Enforces rules rigidly, even at the expense of enjoyment or flow. Appeals to authorial intent and formal correctness.
Cause: Fairness fallacy, need for order, and anxiety around arbitrariness.
> Therapistfag
Symptom: Appears neutral and detached, reframing others without self-disclosure.
Cause: Maintains distance through role adoption; engagement is mediated by analysis rather than participation.
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What's the cure doc?
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> Immortalityfag
> Powerfag
> Minionfag
> Lorefag
All me
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Obsessed.
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>>97467647
Divine Strength
Martial Prowess
Divine Resilience
Divine Speed
Ascended
I picked Divine Speed because that's my thing, Resilience and Ascended so I can run farther without getting tired, and Strength and Prowess so I can fight.
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I'm sure to win because my EGO is superior.
>>97470676
>Dawn isn't real
The Woman Who Ruined Everything is a constant, so she exists.
>The Anglerfish isn't real
See above.
>Gil isn't real
>Tok isn't real
True.
>(You) aren't real
I'm a Boltzmann Brain and you're all products of my imagination.
>>97470684
That's cute. Now make a CYOA about it.
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I like brainwashing, but don't like all this subversion nonsense
I think the only good solution here is to brainwash the antipowerfag and turn them into a cute assistant for further heterosexual and grounded brainwashings
Anyone who seems that focused on the idea of correction is probably vulnerable to correction
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>Powerfag: Only relies on himself and puts his trust in his strength alone.
>Minionfag: Relies on his minions and invests heavily in their development and strength.
Its quite literally is. A hybrid between the two would be an indecisive wimpy centrist who can't commit a path and thus is neither.
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>>97470839
Necromancerfag can be a powerfag, an immortalityfag, and a minionfag at the same time. He has magic (power), minions (undead) and immortality (lichdom). In fact, of course I know him, he's me!
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What about matterjeeta and her techjeet disciples? Also Gilfag
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>>97470704
> Samefag
>Symptom: Adopts rotating personas and shallow imitations of other archetypes. Genuine positions are obscured to avoid accountability.
Playing different personas at different times isn't samefagging imo, that kind of roleplay is part of the anonymous posting experience and not a bad thing.
Real samefagging means imo pretending to be multiple posters within the same conversation, to achieve a goal that the community disapproves of (like falsely making your side in an argument seem bigger). They don't even need different personas.
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>>97470865
Powerfag handily. I'll always choose self-empowerment options over outside help without a second thought. Unlike most powerfags, I'm not obsessed with being le strongest from the get go. I find gradually power progression over the course of my adventures much more satisfying than immediate omnipotence.
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>>97470869
>Doesn't directly increase personal battle prowess = not a powerfag.
Simple as. If someone with the same point build as you but focused on personal prowess bypassed your minions them you're fucking toast.
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>>97470868
No, it doesn't, you stupid fucking nigger, stop coping. Someone who focused on personal power at the expense of overall power would obviously not be a power fag. Not only that, but the original term referred to people who would go outside the intended bounds of the cyoa to get more power. I.e. writing OP companies in the build's backstory or something.
Lurk 2 million moar years before posting niggerfaggot.
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>t. triggered newnigger
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>drops a wet pepperoni shart in ur mouth
My adventure, my rules
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>>97471011
Don't try to reason with retards who make their own retarded frameworks based on their own retarded ideas not connected to reality in any way, shape or form. In their own fake world they'll always (fake) win
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Are you ok anon
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>t. malding minioncucks
lol seethe more
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Girliest cyoa that makes you feel like a pretty girl?
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"How much of a *fag am I?"
* I'm sticking to the descriptions given, rather than how I'd interpret the terms. Eg as I said in >>97470880 I'd use samefag to mean something else.
* The scale is relative: 5/10 means 50th percentile of (what I expect from) average /cyoag/ poster.
> Immortalityfag
4/10
> Solvefag
7/10
> Waifufag
3/10
> Coomerfag
4/10
> Powerfag
5/10
> Purityfag
4/10
> Minionfag
5/10
> Lorefag
4/10
> Lolifag
1/10
> Moralfag
5/10
> Chaosfag
4/10
> Samefag
7/10
> Doomfag
6/10
> Metafag
5/10
> Miseryfag
8/10
> Rulesfag
4/10
> Therapistfag
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>>97471064
I was going to write "You will never be THE strongest" then opted for just "strong" instead, but forgot to fix the abbreviation. Honest mistake. Now let's go back to the main subject about why minionfags suck.
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>>97467647
> Starting powers
Divine Engineer
Creator
Telepathy
Expertise (Engineering)
Demonic Pact
> Final Powers
Portal Maker
Divine Engineer
Creator
Reincarnation
Telepathy
Expertise (Engineering)
Master Orator
Godly Mind
Divine Memory
Sixth Sense
Demonic Pact
Demonic Pact is pretty busted since there's nothing stopping you from just forcing people to sign with powers. Knock someone out, make them 'remember' that they promised to sign something in blood for whatever reason. knock them out again and erase their memory of the transaction. Rinse and repeat until 100 points are required.
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>>97471361
It's either
1. Hypocrisy (typical for narcissists)
2. Lack of understanding caused by severe mental retardation (typical for Tok)
Whichever it is, I don't care and hope he dies as soon as possible to drastically improve thread quality
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>>97471361
I'm not some furfag who jerks off to anthropomorphic abominations. I just like Centaurs, which are monster girls, not furry freakasauruses. I wanted to fuck a centaur girl, and a female horse is the closest I can get to the real thing. I even listened to a voice actress pretending to be a centaur when I fucked the horse. I'm into monster girls, not animals or furrfagory
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>>97471357
This is DBZ, if characters were acting intelligently then they wouldnt be themselves.also im pretty sure oolong gets his wish at a point in time where he both wouldnt want to mindrape someone and also would be too scared of being murdered by any of bulmas friends to try it
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>>97471527
Shes !jesus from that paladin cyoa that came out for new years. One of the companion options.
She got memed on because people got really weird about god in that cyoa, and shes a personification of that god.
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Nah, I am pretty sure he would mindrape someone. He didn't change at all during the adventure. He simply stops being with them by force, because he realized he doesn't have anything better to do. The characters dont have a real growth, if he once forced people to marry him out of being a pervert, I don't see why would he stop.
The Z fighters being mad at him is a legit worry. But they were very far from them, as Bulma and friends were captured. He could have said it and they wouldn't hear it. Ooloong could then say his wish is a secret and they are too dumb to connect the dots as you said.
I still think it would have worked and make him have an ideal life with an attractive young girl, with big boobs (realistically), great body, that can search the dragon balls to stay young forever, rich and smart. The problem is he dies when androids arrive as there is no Trunks, unless he has kids with her and they also travel in time, everyone dies. but if they do then they kinda won as Vegeta is who caused Cell to become perfect.
Then in the Buu saga Majin buu would kill them. Well, unless Vegeta not being redeemed means Buu is not woken up as that was kinda his fault by letting Babidi control him. Which going by Trunks's timeline having Buu not reivving means its a real possibility and the most likely.
But that does mean Goku does not revive as there is no Buu and the old Kaioshin doesn't gift him life. Which in turn makes Beerus arrive Earth and not fight the Supersaiyan God.
And I would have said he would destroy Earth but he liked the food and he only got so angry because Buu refused to share food. Which means he would actually spare Earth...
There is no Supersaiyan God and Goku stays dead. Freeza revives and kills everyone tho, well, unless Bulma calls him like in the series and they arrive and he promises protection, there is no Goku to kill so Freeza lives.
So they breeze through the arcs until Zeno sama decides some random day to kill them all.
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Companion from Radiant, has a bunch of forms including "mother" hence shitposting.
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Did you miss the gag where the girls oolong kidnapped as wives were bossing him around the house? It would be wildly out of character for him to go try rape someone.
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Thats because he is a pushover in the sense he is a coward against people that stand for themselves. As he knows his transformations, that he used to intimidate, dont make him actually stronger.
And his real body is probably weaker than even his wives.
In the chapter 9 he literally drugs Goku and Bulma to touch her (and maybe more) but got interrupted by Puar.
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>>97471620
The cyoa surprisingly does not feature a chastity cage option, no, there is also no magic cock ring. This is several stages of psychosexual meme
The development goes something like this:
>Dawn is a proxy of the light
>the light is a domineering maternal female influence (arguably true in the cyoa)
>the light is an antagonistic controlling force (because it has rules for moral conduct)
>the light seeks to punish/correct anon into being good (often in the context of the cyoa (of which dawn is a personification) being used to "punish" evil players like imagined sons from entropist)
>therefore Dawn is a dominant mommy type that will correct anons into being good little boys
cock rings and chastity cages are just one step on from that.technically I dont think theres anything against it in the cyoa, dawn is some sort of omnipotent spirit of guidance that molds itself to your needs, so technically its possible, but the cyoa is pretty sexless/doesent really deal with sex
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>the chastity cage joke is real?
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He... doesn't. Goku's power level at the start is of 10. Oolong is obviously waaaaaay weaker than said Goku.
Given his whole strategy was to simple intimidate, is a pushover, doesn't fight at all and is treated like Bulma but if she was a midget.
He could genuinely be at the level of a normal kid or, for the gag, even weaker.
In any way, he doesn't have the strength to overpower his wife decisely, which paired with his coward actitude makes him unable to rape by force. But you already saw he planned to touch sleeping Bulma and forced people to marry him out of fear. I think a Dragon Ball wish is not out of his area.
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>He... doesn't.
He does, his official given power level is given at 10 in the tree of might movie pamphlet, he doesent really train or get stronger over the series so it stands to be around there when hes introduced too.
Given a grown man (albeit not in great shape) is at a PL of 5? Hes clearly stronger than some random little girl.
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>>97471823
1. Movies are not canon. Only the series itself and the Daizenshuu 7 are canon
2. That same movie, even when its not canon, has contradictions with the series.
For example Ox-King has a power of 900. Which is false as not only Gohan (the grandpa) is canonically stronger than Ox King, and his power level is inferior to Piccolo Daimaku, who was like 300. With that logic Ox King was even stronger than Goku and Piccolo when Raditz arrived, despite both of them in theory being the strongests on Earth with just 400.
It doesn't make sense Ox King is that strong despite Gohan being the best student of Roshi. Then that same movie has this guy
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Colonel_Silver
In 200 power level, which is actually also above Roshi, despite Goku with a power level below 200 destroying the whole Red Ribbon without too much effort.
The whole thing does not make sense. Which ironically makes sense because its not canon, its a movie made by the animation studio.
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But there's no True Creator, the barrier is newly made, and the origin specifies that magical stuff will infiltrate the world slowly. There's very few things that can mess up a Listener at that point in time
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>>97471880
>listen to shit
>get fucked
>can't listen to shit
>can't digest
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>>97472123
Matrons too. They are not demons, unlike succubus. While I don't know if Paladins have an anti goon technique.
Astra would win too. Bloom. Ester. The squid guys too. Dream creatures in general.
This is why its good to make a diverse army.
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>They are not demons
Theyre evolved demons so they almost certainly are (succubi can even become them), but theyre also clearly unholy regardless
>Astra would win too. Bloom. Ester. The squid guys too. Dream creatures in general.
Those are all also clearly unholy and thus probably gigafucked, the dream creatures in particular get countered by astral projection (you cant damage paladin souls, and their astral form IS their soul so RAW their astral form is literally indestructible)
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>>97472179
Power sets does not stop you from being that type. Just like teaching Earthquake to your Darmanitan does not stop it from being fire type.
Golden Truth is overrated as an instant win button, when its a late game ability you can't use until you train a lot and live a long time, and even then you can only use it like once, has limits and can easily backfire.
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>paladins can become immune to reality warping/manipulation with that one ability that stops them using power words (archon form?)
Golden Truth don't have limits by RAW. Just strip the immunity.>>97472201
>Power sets does not stop you from being that type.
Irrelevant. Pick a powerset with perfect defense.>>97472201
>Golden Truth is overrated as an instant win button, when its a late game ability you can't use until you train a lot and live a long time, and even then you can only use it like once, has limits and can easily backfire.
Sure, but it is an option in whiteroom dick waving.
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>Theyre evolved demons so they almost certainly are (succubi can even become them), but theyre also clearly unholy regardless
They are not evolved demons, their description is they are basically desire made form. Unlike succubus being canonically demons.
Succubi can become them because the superior Pleasure Creature (the matron) plans a seed inside them that will end up reviving said Matron. They are not truly becoming them, they are getting their body hijacked.
I wouldn't say they are clearly unholy, unless you include pleasure type beings in unholy. For me unholy are death/soul related beings. So the Father's side, she is a Plasure being.
>Those are all also clearly unholy and thus probably gigafucked, the dream creatures in particular get countered by astral projection (you cant damage paladin souls, and their astral form IS their soul so RAW their astral form is literally indestructible)
Astra is just a dream goddess, no unholy.
Bloom is 100% pleasure being.
Ester uses mana, like mages, and has no listed race, so she is more like a neutral type. Mana is even stated to be neutral so its good to use against beings strong against Entropic beings like Tempered Heroes.
>the dream creatures in particular get countered by astral projection (you cant damage paladin souls, and their astral form IS their soul so RAW their astral form is literally indestructible)
I don't know how that power works, but by what you explained, its just what Astra already has.
She has a physical projection in the real world which is unable to get damaged, and then her real form.
Does astral projection leave a body? Because then it can be targetted and killed anyway.
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>Golden Truth don't have limits by RAW
Neither does archon form iirc, up to and including simply ignoring the powers of gods and shit, itll just ignore your attempt to remove it (or rather: your attempt will just not do anything)
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>>97472262
>By how the entropist world works, there is no "perfect defenses" if something sounds too good, its too good.
Debatable. I think Exalted is perfectly viable.
And if we assume radishit and entropiss happen in the same multiverse, all restriction is nulled, imo.
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>Neither does archon form iirc, up to and including simply ignoring the powers of gods and shit, itll just ignore your attempt to remove it (or rather: your attempt will just not do anything)
And Golden Truth by RAW may fuck up Gods, including they defenses, so by by Dawn, I suppose.
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>>97466607
Apocalyptic Survivor is op. You can pick a path like Sun or Twilight Giant to immediately extract the other pathway, thus removing the madness, becoming s4, and gaining s9-4 characteristics all for free.
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>>97472328
>If we're doing that the paladin can just wish the son out of existance no?
Sure, its analogue to Golden Truth. That's why Exalted perfects with unbreachable even by powers what should breach it clause is useful.
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>their description is they are basically desire made form
Thats just warhammer demons then. "malevolent thought forms aligned with the forces of death" seems to fall pretty neatly within what the (vague) description of the unholy is.
>the gifts
Are parts of the soul of a son, theyre inherently unholy whatever shape they take because theyre de-facto created from death magic
>real body
It might. It mentions not being able to harm (or be harmed by) the real world, but this might only mean the astral projection itself.
It is however an essentially at will invincible soul form that can fuck up any kind of dream creature
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>>97472341
>And Golden Truth by RAW may fuck up Gods
So does archon form, the Father himself could do exactly nothing to it by Raw
>by by dawn
dawn can casually throw out literal unconditional omnipotence at a whim, she could literally just decide golden truth isnt a thing and it stops being a thing, shes in the "in the beginning god said "let there be light"" levels of power.also its bye bye
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>the son has embraced the light of Allah
Alhamdulillah!
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>>97472360
>malevolent thought forms aligned with the forces of death" seems to fall pretty neatly within what the (vague) description of the unholy is.
But in this case they aren't.
They are just desire, not malevolent. They are one of the few minion types without any bias towards anything, their only desire is being devoted to their master. Their lewdness is even less than succubi as they are the ones reigned them in.
They are just maids made of desire. The description also mentions that you are actually modfying them with your soul to make them caring, so I guess the original matrons could be other way. But the ones we have access to are just neutral maids.
>Are parts of the soul of a son, theyre inherently unholy whatever shape they take because theyre de-facto created from death magic
Wrong logic. If that worked that way Tempered Heroes would affect them all with an advantage, yet we know they are not.
Astra and Ester do not have that disadvantage and Bloom is not even created from your soul and is also a being from the Prince's side.
Bloom is the only one not created by the Father.
>It might. It mentions not being able to harm (or be harmed by) the real world, but this might only mean the astral projection itself.
>It is however an essentially at will invincible soul form that can fuck up any kind of dream creature
If they have that weakness then it kinda loses all meaning. Let's say it can travel to the Dreamlands to hurt Astra, then we have also to guess Astra is next to the body. Even more when teleportation is kinda her thing. Then Astra can just make a part of her travel to the physical world and hurt the body
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>>97472385At any time any son can not just make paladin abilities lose their extra effectiveness against them, but basically ban any paladin from fighting them under pain of falling, it just takes becoming an unironically good person
so in other words sons are fucked
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>>97472293
>we can honestly discuss EA having pet options now
The thread is healing.
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>>97472405
>dawn can casually throw out literal unconditional omnipotence at a whim, she could literally just decide golden truth isnt a thing and it stops being a thing, shes in the "in the beginning god said "let there be light"" levels of power.
So is Golden Truth.
>also its bye bye
Damn.
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>>97472436
>So is Golden Truth.
It isnt, per RAW it draws its power from the end of all things, it is lesser than the Father and couldnt do something he couldnt do. In other word if something no-sells Gods (like the father) they clearly trump golden truth
Its just bog standard reality warping, wish the 9th level spell.
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>>97472419
>Wrong logic
Its directly in line with the rules for unholy beings laid out, the gifts are aspects of a sons soul, and sons are basically THE unholy thing as walking entropy/death vessels. Shards of that big unholy are still going to be unholy, no matter how they look.
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>>97472459
>your will has to overpower the nature of what you're changing
Not true. Its for usual power word.
>you have to believe in it yourself.
True. But it is irrelevant in the whiteroom battle.
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>it is lesser than the Father
Its literally the same power.
>if something no-sells Gods (like the father)
And Golden Truth no-sells Dawn in what case.
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>>97472501
>the gifts are aspects of a sons soul, and sons are basically THE unholy thing as walking entropy/death vessels.
Again, if that worked like you said. Ester would have a weakness like everyone else to Tempered Heroes. She doesn't.
They technically coming from you doesn't stop them from being totally different from you.
>Shards of that big unholy are still going to be unholy, no matter how they look.
We have direct proof they are not like that. Stop being obtuse about something that its obvious. The ultimate proof is the lack of the same weakness and specifically being called non entropic. Its not rocket science.
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>>97472523
>if that worked like you said. Ester would have a weakness like everyone else to Tempered Heroes. She doesn't.
Tempered heroes arent paladins though, theyre militant fedora tippers with their own rules and regulations
The gifts are not "real people" pulled into your orbit, theyre stands with backstories, created through the influence of the Father and sometimes other deities
>and specifically being called non entropic
We know you dont have to be entropic to be considered unholy, its just one flavor of a larger group. Cthulhu would be unholy as an eldrich being despite having no connection to death magic
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See for yourself.
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>>97472559
No, thats a separate rule. There are three conditions given for golden law.
1: You have to actually believe it.
2: Your will needs to overpower the nature of what youre trying to change
3: Your skill with the ability is sufficient to do it.
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>>97472580
>Gods power and has all manner of caveats and limitations
Not in the theorcrafting, it isn't.
>>97472583
>See for yourself.
I literally have opened jpg with this shit.
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>>97472621
>Not in the theorcrafting, it isn't.
It literally is, even in its ability text itself it is. Its a lesser power to the father, (a God), and another power explicitly trumps Gods. Golden truth simply doesent work, even if the other restrictions were met
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>>97472609
The League of Tok is legion, and our powers are endless. Paladins would be seduced and corrupted until they would inevitably fall. Entropiss sons would be turned into women and thus lose their powers. All would be made into sex slaves for none can stand against the Toks!
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>>97472585
God all of these names are fucking awful. I already knew you were bad at coming up with names from your cyoa, but this is genuinely pathetic.
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Buddy theres a 5pts power that negates all mental effects (not sure why it isnt free, given its functionally free and too useful to ever not be taken).
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Not how I remember it.
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>>97472595
>Your will needs to overpower the nature of what youre trying to change
No, its believing from depth of the heart > your will overpower nature.
>Your skill with the ability is sufficient to do it.
True. But theoretical son will have as much mastery as needed for scenario.
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>>97472621
>By speaking in Gold, you may alter reality, if you truly believe this truth in the depths of your heart, your will overpowers the nature of what you intend to change, and your usage of Power Word is sufficiently mastered to allow for such a miracle.
Pretty clearly says your will needs to overpower what you're changing.
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>>97472648
>God all of these names are fucking awful. I already knew you were bad at coming up with names from your cyoa, but this is genuinely pathetic.
My names are the best, the fuck you talking about.
>Buddy theres a 5pts power that negates all mental effects (not sure why it isnt free, given its functionally free and too useful to ever not be taken).
A true Tok does not need mind powers to corrupt a paladin.
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>Not how I remember it.
Then you remember it wrong, pic realted
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>>97472585
Outside of MAYBE the ultimate god build, how do all of these not just instantly lose?
Shitposting (and omnipotent reality warping) asides both paladins and sons can mathematically get strong enough to fuck up dragonball Z villains, whats a Fate wizard going to do? Throw out gandr?
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>>97472661
Huh, you right, where is a comma. So unless you pick up an unlimited willpower somewhere, where is limits. Golden Truth is much better designed than I though, it seems.
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>>97472700
Its not even that its a bad name "in a vacuum", its that its so obviously stolen. Its like if you made your OC superhero called Kal El.
Its a strange-sounding name from a very popular and recognisable source of media that very specifically sounds like its from that media. Toks always stolen names (allarielle and celestine here, N'Kari and Tzarkan and countless others in his cyoas) but at least for the most part theyre generic fantasy enough that you can imagine a world where he thinks hes gotten away with it, that his lazy corner cutting has paid off and people dont notice.
But fucking Parthuunax? Its this perfect mix between lazy and shameless. Its the kid who tells you his dog ate his homework with an empty question sheet on his fucking desk.
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its basically CHIM
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Gold
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Mold
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>>97472796
The strongest radiant build that got made(by sheer number of points) is some ambiguous reality warping god, so thats not really interesting.
Strongest radiant build (hypothetical) is just all the counters and then author fiat powers + a wish on top. So not really interesting either.
Despite how "obvious" the rivalry between the two seems, its not a good matchup, because 99% of it is "yea, paladins blow the other guy out of the water with obvious and insurmountable counters" and then the other 1% is finding a contrived scenario where there is no counter and sons win by a landslide instead. Theres never really any actual "fight" going on. "oh the paladin teleports in, fated duels, soulfire meganukes the son because he absorbed any number of souls at all and theres no real counterplay or even fight" "oh the son has an arbitrary number of natural soul growth because we gave him 2*10^2000 years of growth floating in outer space and now he just wins everything forever because hes basically arbitrarily strong and has infinite speed and healing and shit and also hes actually mastered 200 ranks of physical enhancement over this amount of time"
Even ignoring the "my dad can beat your dad" omnipotence shitflinging of "well I ask dawn to have the father and entropy stop existing" "well I actually golden truth paladin powers to not work!" "well my paladin is immune to golden truth!"... its just too "well I guess X wins" one way or the other.
If you want them to actually fight, you need to give Paladin powers some serious negative scaling on various powers (so that the myriad "I instantly explode the son for even looking at me" powers dont do what they say they do), and then decide exactly how many souls/prep time a son gets (because if its zero then obviously the paladin wins, so it has to be "some" and not "an arbitrary amount that may as well be infinite")
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>The gifts are not "real people" pulled into your orbit, theyre stands with backstories, created through the influence of the Father and sometimes other deities
they become "real people" even if you permanently die, they can survive and continue living.
What you are saying its like if you call a daughter not a real person because she came from her mother. Gifts, once they come into existence, a real beings. That can live even longer than their Son if their if said Son is permanently killed. WIth theit personalities, agendas, and powers. And clear type advantages and disadvantages.
>Tempered heroes arent paladins though, theyre militant fedora tippers with their own rules and regulations
And this is you trying to throw discussion out of the window by being pedantic "actsyually they are not...." yeah and Entropic beings are not unholy beings of the paladin cyoa and are stated to not be weak to Holy things like lesser beings but I am accepting for the sake of the discussion. As I accept that crossverse modification to allow Sons to be affected by things they are not, you come and do and "actsyually"? come on.
Your acstually doesn't even work because my point of the Tempered Heroes and Ester is that SHE HAS DIFFERENT TYPE ADVANTAGES and is clearly of a different type than the other gifts and yourself. She being as neutral as she can get given she uses mana, is not from any special race.
>We know you dont have to be entropic to be considered unholy, its just one flavor of a larger group. Cthulhu would be unholy as an eldrich being despite having no connection to death magic
In this context? It does.
Otherwise I say Sons are entropic but not unholy, and you have no way to say the opposite. You could try to get to Paladin words and I could go to Entropists's. In entropist the unholy is the eldritch beings, demons and demiurgues. No Sons. You decided to not make conscesions and act like only paladin's words matter and so will I with Entropist now..
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Also: With how "asymmetric" the two cyoa are with what theyre about, how much time do both sides get? Elemental giants are good vs Paladins, are we just giving the son as much time as they need to assemble some? Whats the terrain like? Do they just exist "somewhere in the same multiverse"? Are they dropped into the same planet? Do they know who the other guy is? Because on the info side of things Paladins are surprisingly good at it.
Also, if we're counting gifts, do we then have to consider companions? Do we need to ban the infinite time-stop combo?
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>>97472991
>and are stated to not be weak to Holy things like lesser beings
Then why would that change? If sons take 1x damage rather than 2x damage from holy damage then why would they suddenly become weak to it? Hell the resistance of sons is explicitly kinda exceptional, so its not even a "for the sake of having the crossover work we need this to happen" thing.
>and you have no way to say the opposite
Per the definition for unholy things given in the paladin cyoa they would be, borderline explicitly
>In entropist the unholy is the eldritch beings, demons and demiurgues
And you can use that for entropist powers that concern the Unholy. But in the radiant cyoa the unholy is something different, so its powers are obviously going to concern what IT considers unholy and not what entropist considers unholy. Likewise for their respective definitions of "divinity", its clear that evil gods do not count as divine for the purposes of radiant, so while in Entropist the sons are Divine they wouldnt count as such for the purposes of paladin powers.
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>>97473054
>And you can use that for entropist powers that concern the Unholy. But in the radiant cyoa the unholy is something different, so its powers are obviously going to concern what IT considers unholy and not what entropist considers unholy. Likewise for their respective definitions of "divinity", its clear that evil gods do not count as divine for the purposes of radiant, so while in Entropist the sons are Divine they wouldnt count as such for the purposes of paladin powers.
This whole thing can be made on the opposite.
And you can use that for Paladin powers that concern the Unholy. But in the Entropist cyoa the unholy is something different, so its defenses are obviously going to concern what IT considers unholy and not what Paladins considers unholy. Likewise for their respective definitions of "divinity", its clear that random light gods in a backwater planet do not count as divine for the purposes of Entropist, so while in Paladin the Dawn god is Divine they wouldnt count as such for the purposes of Entropist defenses.
And this is why I am going to stop talking with you, you are totally "yeah hehe my team is going to win" while not seeing you want me to accept concessions you are not going to accept yourself, with arguments I could also do.
You are truly a kid in the playground saying "I hit you and you didn't hit me" all the time. Good night.
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>>97473096
>so its defenses are obviously going to concern what IT considers unholy and not what Paladins considers unholy
Okay? You havent made the point you think you have. Yes, if entropist had some specific holy weakness like "true faith" from WoD then obviously "holy fire" wouldnt necessarily count as "holy" for that specific weakness. And yes, obviously if something in entropist was "immune to unholy magic" that immunity is going to be based on what its definition of unholy is, and not what some other broaded definition of unholy is.
>so while in Paladin the Dawn god is Divine they wouldnt count as such for the purposes of Entropist defenses.
Okay? This would be relevant if there was some specific "divinity weakness" that was being exploited, and we had to go check what the definition for divinity in entropist is. But this isnt the case.
>, its clear that random light gods in a backwater planet
You havent read radiant have you?
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>>97470474
>This reminds me, why isn't Spirit Conscript listed PCA's folder allsyncAnon?
All I have for Spirit Conscript are pdfs and looking through them I don't see an author name. If you don't fucking sign your work it gets shoved into a theme/genre folder, which happens more often than not. Now that you've told me who made it I'll move it into his folder. Thank you for that.
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Just stop falling for the bait and the rampant shitposting will go away.
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