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>>97473472
What are some underrated settings for OSR games?
Hope this thread stays up, just trying to make the next general

>>97473472
Yet another hijack attempt posted too soon, kill yourself, Fishfag.

>>97473472
Birthright. it's the domain play setting.

>>97473472
>http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128 (embed) (embed)
Jej, you fucking retard.
Not only does this show multiple slovenly (bot?) copying but it also links to the correct pastebin which shows clearly that you're mangling the OP. Hang yourself.

Where is your wrangler?

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>>97473488
unironically barsoom.

>>97473488
Dark sun is a great setting primarily due to its huge swathe of underground ruins of previous eras. you are spoilt for space to make dungeons.

>>97473488
I like Mystara personally.

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>>97473472
This generals up for now thankfully.
Post some of your favorite monsters.

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>>97473696
can't go wrong with wights.

>>97473472
Fuck you and your shit hijack threads, fishfag

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>>97473696
Porcs are great.

Real thread on the off chance there's someone sincerely confused by this fuckwit clown and his spamming of 3-10-word posts:
>>97473611
>>97473611
>>97473611

This is the latest hijack thread by /osrg's resident schizo, fishfag. Actual thread is:

>>97473611
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>>97473652
Use Pic related for running a dark sun cammpaign. Chubby funster is a great creator in the space.

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>>97473696
These underraged gems.

>>97473748
What other stuff has chubby funster made? is there anything good you can recommend i pick up aside from that?

>>97473768
a lot really. Shadowcity, blood and neon is a great OSR adaptation of VTM, as well as his Shadowrim setting (skyrim in shadowdark.)

>>97473488
Eberon for sure.

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>>97473712
Where can i get good plastic orc minis?

>>97473826
What kind of adventures have you run in eberron?

Do you have a script or something for this shit? Or do you actually sit around and fabricate these little fake conversations by hand, hoping the jannies won't notice that all the posts are one sentence apiece and about the same narrow set of shit in every one of your hijack threads? Do you think they genuinely buy this as real activity?

>>97473827
i dont know, ive had a good look around, can find plenty of good metal minis, and evne some resin ones, but no good plastic ones in an oldschool style.

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>>97473472
Anyine used a gray philosopber as part of their dungeon?

>>97473748
>Chubby funster
Oh I watch his channel, some good content

>>97475056
I ran shadowcity last halloween, want to run a campaign for it

>>97475056
Isn't he the guy that did shadowsun?

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>Anon asks whether a script is posting the faked activity
>fakeposts stop for hours
>then resume at a rate of one per hour, almost on the minute

>>97474404
not yet, i'm considering it however.

>>97473748
Thanks for the recommendation, i'll give it a look see.

Hmmm, the hourly bump is delayed it seems...

>>97475494
kek

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>>97473472
are there any good free, and offline tools for digital dungeon mapping that are available? Best i've been able to find is GIMP.

>>97476324
Tut-tut, exactly three hours between bumps. You're slacking off, Fishfag.

>>97476324
Dungeondraft isn't free, but it can be used offline and it does the job well enough for $20.
The only free ones I know are stripped down versions that are online only, like Dungeon Fog and Inkarnate.
I kinda wish Dungeon Alchemist was not $50. It's also way way more complicated than it needs to be, but it does look pretty cool, though that's the price of an actual game for something that's just a map tool.

>>97476324
I'm afraid you'll be stuck with GIMP....
https://eldritchfields.blogspot.com/2023/10/how-do-i-make-dungeon-maps-tutorial.html
https://clericswearringmail.blogspot.com/2020/06/how-to-make-tsr-nostalgic-map-using-gimp.html

>>97473580
>today I will remind them
https://www.nightowlworkshop.com/warriors-of-the-red-planet

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>>97473488
Hyboria

Why is no one talking about OSRIC 3?

>>97477969
when it comes to retorclones I'm more of a B/X type of guy myself
I appreciate it but it's not something I'm going to play in the near future

Have you read it? what do you think of it?

>>97477969
They changed race to "ancestry."
Hard pass.

>>97477969
OSRIC was always sort of a dead game, even back in 2006. Even the forum for OSRIC never had much of a member count and their activity was primarily just sharing amateur-quality material with a certain level of pretension attached. It's a really hard to get people to bite at OSRIC 3 when OSRIC never succeeded in establishing any sort of identity for itself in twenty years beyond "please, for god's sake look at us, please."

>>97479339
>another addition to the enemies list
fuck off, fishfag

>>97479339
What's a good 1e Retroclone i can use instead of OSRIC? Adventures dark and deep?

>>97478178
Hot take, 1E sucks & BX/BECMI is the better, easier to learn & more fun OSR system. Everything good about 1e can be ported into basics many flavors, and the DMG is a mixed bag of great & terrible ideas.

>>97479471
Why bother with a retroclone when you can just play the original? It's not hard to get a PDF, and you can even get original books if you want for fairly cheap, and who knows, they might appreciate in value in a couple decades.

Adventures Dark and Deep at least tries to be something, but I'm honestly not a fan and wouldn't recommend it over just AD&D. Maybe I'm just too sensitive to changes, or maybe it's because the one time I played ADaD a guy played a centaur and we spent far too much time getting caught up with ropes and ladders and there was also an endless stream of horse dick jokes and that was the most memorable thing to me about that game.

>>97479816
B/X is a better designed system from a pure design standpoint.

>>97479832
Exactly. AD&D does a lot of good, but its held back by all the bloat. BX is smooth, light and easy to pick up. And BECMI does a larger crunchier system better by having gradual complexity to better ease people into its play.

>>97479823
>when you can just play the original?
I dont want to give WotC my money, and good luck tracking down a copy secondhand for any reasonable price and in good condition.
Also even if i did buy the PDF's so i could print them myself, theres no cover files for the old Covers i can find online.

>>97479823
>endless stream of horse dick jokes and that was the most memorable thing to me about that game.
Leave it to the players to turn every campaign into monty python and the holy grail tonewise.
But im open to a retroclone that's not OSRIC, maybe OSE advanced fantasy would be more my pace?

>>97479816
>>97479823
>>97479832
>>97479860
>>97479900
>sudden explosion of samefagging

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>>97477941
didn't hyboria get a 0e conversion or something? i remember reading it and wanting to make a dungeon crawl based around an underground cave tunnel highway filled with troglodytes.

>>97479832
BX is one of the best editions of D&D period. you could publish it for normies in target and im pretty confident it would sell if set up right.

>>97480315
It was sold in Target.
Do you mean sold today?

>>97480349
Yes i meant that. An official restatement/cleaned up version ala OSE with peroper marketing at least IMO would be popular.

>>97479339
I don't think it's a particularly strong jab at OSRIC
that's pretty much all retroclones apart from maybe OSE which managed to stand out as the go to quality retroclone books and seems to be somewhat commercially successful

>>97479823
>Why bother with a retroclone when you can just play the original?
1e specifically?
because 1e books structure is horrendous
it's not much of an issue nowadays when you can just ask chatgpt which pages to look for but even then it's unnecessary overhead if you are trying to actually play the game (also it is often hallucinating)

>>97480522
Fishfag's arguments are never very strong, but they are interminable, and aimed at something new every month. But right now it's "OSRIC BAD!"

>>97480522
I'd like to try 1e, but not the obtuseness of the high gygaxian origjnal nor OSRIC's incompleteness.

>>97480603
are there any non osric clones that are a straightforward 1e clone with no gimmicks?

>>97479943
OSE is fine if your biggest gripe is clarity and avoiding Gygax's clumsy writing/organization, but it's B/X based (which might be better for you overall).

>>97473703
>every time one appears it's just nonstop jokes

>>97479943
>maybe OSE advanced fantasy would be more my pace?
other anon has already mentioned but maybe it's worth elaborating a bit further considering the question

In the late 70's up to early 80's there were several versions of D&D in print.
The Basic Set was meant as an introductory game (i.e. for kids) with less rules and AD&D had a lot more rules for all kind of situations, meant for experienced players.
B/X and BECMI printings were basically following the Basic Set lineage with less numerous and more streamlined rules compared to AD&D.
The printings/version history is a lot more complicated but that's the important part for your question specifically.

Now the thing is that there is little stopping you from taking the Basic Set lineage rules, and bolting on all sorts of content from AD&D, classes, spells, monsters, items, etc.
That is what OSE Advanced essentially is, AD&D content running on top of Basic rules linage (B/X flavor specifically)

When playing OSE Advanced you aren't playing AD&D per se but you sure as hell can effortlessly run AD&D adventures.

>>97481281
that's quite a lot more text than I initially hopped for producing and poorly worded
so let me give a shorter version

tldr;
ORSIC = AD&D retroclone
OSE Advanced = B/X D&D retroclone with AD&D content, not AD&D per se but AD&D compatible

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>>97480603
>high gygaxian

>>97473580
I 100% don't get John Carter.
I've read the books. Even read some of the comics.

And at best it seems quaint. I appreciate Tits Dajerka or whatever her name is, but everything else feels like a deadend rather than an inspiration.

>>97479339
I thought OSRIC was just 1e though, and I was planning on using 1e's books in case the OSRIC missed something from 1e books.

>>97483106
>and I was planning on using 1e's books in case the OSRIC missed something from 1e books.
out of curiosity how are you actually planning on doing that?
like what is the system for identifying what's missing, and what is the system for making sure you don't forget about the rule?

>>97483106
Osric is some dudes homebrewed version of 1e, it's not the same

Is Old School Essentials worth picking up or should I just get the POD of Rules Cyclopedia?

>>97483918
It's not a bad introduction to B/X and is formatted to be extremely beginner friendly. If you are already familiar with B/X, the best that it offers is Advanced, which just ports over some AD&D stuff.
It's a fairly safe pick. B/X is also not a particularly esoteric game, but OSE does go out of its way to try and clarify (or make judgments on) certain vague rules that have been in contention/dispute over the years. Whether that makes it worth might depend on how much you agree with the rulings, but the designer did make a document explaining what changes he made and why, and they're not completely batshit insane at the bare minimum.

If you want to make a more informed decision yourself, you can generally find any book just by searching "book name" + "pdf" and browse through it on your own.

>>97483918
Rules cyclopedia has more content, OSE is simpler/more condensed.
OSE/BX for oneshots and short form campaigns
RC for long form campaigns.

>>97481235
>Can a Wight boy not bust a move

>>97483918
youre a dumb newfag, so go here instead:
>>97473611

Ignore this desperate troll and his psychotically autistic thread that only the dumbest faggots post in. >>97484362
It's like if you told the gayest discord imaginable "Hey fags, make tryhard posts that no one would ever want to read so they don't bother figuring out how fucking retarded we are."

>>97484132
>ayoo where da wight women at

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>>97484618
>fuck wightey where my piggaz at?

>>97484603
>this desperate troll
>his psychotically autistic thread
>the dumbest faggots post in
>the gayest discord imaginable
>Hey fags
>how fucking retarded we are

Incredibly desperate and pathetic stream of ad hominem. Care to post a character sheet or discuss your latest session?

>>97481235
>It's OK to be a Wight

>>97484603
Dont feed the troll.

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>>97473696
Grue
I use them in my dungeon kinda like ghouls that are afraid of light essentially. Once the torches go out, the noises start far away.

>>97485213
lmao not a troll, and notice how no one here answered his question, even those replying to him?
Its because you genuinely dont know the rules of the game

>>97484603
Boy, someone's mad that his trolling isn't working.

>>97485479
if you ignore it for long enough, they get bored and go away.
Now, back on topic. What are you working on anon? im ironing out the details of my dungeon, im pretty tempted to add a second faction to floor 2 but worried it might be too much for something i plan to only really run as a oneshot.

>>97485553
>they get bored and go away
You never have

>>97485553
>if you ignore it for long enough, they get bored and go away.
AYRT and I have yet to see evidence of you getting bored and fucking off. For example, this thread exists.

>>97483106
AFAIK OSRIC deliberately excludes the psionic rules for some reason. other then that im not sure what else is missing.

>>97485605
>OSRIC deliberately excludes the psionic rules for some reason
Good riddance

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>>97479471
>>97480234
There's hyperborea for ad&d, but that has some slight rule differences. It is mostly compatible with pretty much anything written for 1e. It also works well enough for something like dark sun.
Speaking of that, I can recommend the lost treasure of atlantis. It has some pretty nice encounters. I have not tested the material yet, but flipping through it seems interesting so far at a glance.

>>97485759
>lakehead

>>97485605
I'm currently working on a document that details all of the comparative differences between osric3 and 1e. Right now I'm only up to page 35 but I'm finding at least one serious inconsistency per page

>>97487725
I sincerely wish you good luck, it's a worthy project if you are ever going to finish it

>>97487957
It's not going to be perfect, and I'm not autistic enough to make it perfect, but hopefully it should illustrate some of the interesting departures

>>97485685
>1e purists want ad&d RAW
>except psionic rules
How does this cognitive dissonance function?

>>97488892
>retard can't cope with existence of multiple posters

>>97488892
It's just called "hypocrisy".

>>97488926
c >>97488924

>>97488926
Make's sense, a lot of them don't even have a proper argument and just resort to ad hominem as well. You've kinda just won if they do that.

>>97485269
Got a statblock for them?

>>97489001
>Make's
You still dont know how to use an apostrophe? holy kek
>>97489084
>got any more samefag convo fake-engagement for me?

>>97485882
>Speaking of that, I can recommend the lost treasure of atlantis. It has some pretty nice encounters. I have not tested the material yet, but flipping through it seems interesting so far at a glance.
okay, but does it have thick or thin walls ??

>>97489174
>walls as thick as a decade is long

>>97489218
parsecs measure distance, not time...

>>97489084
I use ghouls but renove the undead special rules and give them a forced morale check when encountering light.

>>97489218
11 feet??!?!?!?

>>97489258
Are you calling Harn Solo a liar?

>>97489258
>his space hexes don't measure time

>>97489258
>>97489454
In my house rules, I've converted the spacecrawling to time-based because it's more convenient!

>>97473488
Shadowrim.

>>97476358
Who is fishfag?
Why people keep accusing other people of being fishfag?
And why bumping a thread asking for info on a map tools makes you fishfag?
Thanks.

>>97490076
You're talking to the ACKShill, famous for telling a boring story about his players selling fish and then eventually having the funniest meltdown over people calling it boring.

When people called the story boring, he had a wild tantrum, and that's when the ACKShill began calling everyone "fishfag." He continued doing that in later threads to anyone who criticized ACKS, and eventually even extending that to anyone who disagreed with him in any way.

When ACKS launched a more recent kickstarter, ACKShill actually went around the board, trying to promote the game. He posted in the /5eg/ and got swiftly told to fuck off and his posts were deleted, and then tried in the /3eg/, where the residents there instead began to mock the shit out of him and his game. Eventually, the bullying got so bad, that the ACKShill posted perhaps that aforementioned funniest meltdown.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96434718/#96583816

>>97490076
It should be clear to you from this entire post >>97490116 and how blatantly biased it is, that it is pure revisionist history.

>>97490076
>>97490116
You're talking to the Fishfag, famous for getting mad at a story about someone's players selling fish and then eventually having the funniest meltdown over people liking a game they hate.

When people called his meltdown hysterical, he had a wild tantrum, and that's when the /osrg/ began calling him "fishfag." They continued doing that to this day. It has stuck much more than the variety of flaseflags fishfag has come up with lolcow and pickles.

When fishfag launched a their most recent spergout he went around the board, trying to promote his faggery. He posted in the /5eg/ and got swiftly told to fuck off, he tried to merge the 3.5 and pf general and his posts were deleted and the residents there instead began to mock the shit out of him and his game. /osrg/ discovered he was also the anon who spergs out about nightland and has been trolling the general for years about 2nd edition. Eventually, the bullying got so bad, that fishfag posted perhaps that aforementioned funniest meltdown
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97333907/#q97333974

>>97490140
Judging by how you are the enemy of all truth, you've just given it a pretty good endorsement.
General reminder that the everything the ACKShill says should be treated as him doing his best to deceive you, and the truth is often the direct opposite of what he's trying to convince you of.

>>97490162
>I FIGHT FOR TRUTH AND FREEDOM ON THE INTERNET ABOUT DND
lmao fish you are too precious.

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>>97490116
Literally only you found it boring.

>>97490162
His strategy is "if i project and gaslight hard enough eventually people will totally believe me; theyre all idiots."

>>97481281
>meant for experienced players.
The actual initial reason for Advanced, according to Gygax at the time, was to create a ruleset specifically with tournaments in mind. While Basic required a fair amount of DM interpretation for various circumstances not covered in the rules, with Advanced they hoped to create a unified expanded ruleset so that players playing under different DMs would all have the same fair chance.
Gygax even went so far as to try and use sports rulebooks as sources, because he actually envisioned D&D developing into a full-fledged sport, and this was all because he still hadn't fully grasped what a role playing game was and was still thinking of it in terms of being akin to war games (which frequently held tournaments and were considerably shaped by them).
Ultimately, D&D proved to have an incredibly weak tournament scene, and most of the AD&D playtesting showed little enthusiasm for "serious" tournaments.

>>97490116
Insane retardation from you.
Kys fishfag

>>97490116
Care to post a character sheet you deranged faggot?

>>97490162
Imagine thinking you're a freedom fighter over free RPG PDFs holy shit what a fucking faggot lmao

This guy samefagging like he getting ready for another meltdown.

>>97490162
>If I say "ACKSshill" or "trollcow" or "BrOSR", nobody will know I'm fishfag.
We've already explained to you that it's exact opposite.

You're an actual retard, as in someone with some kind of literal developmental issue, so you will always be recognisable, fishfag. But you make it even more obvious by trying to convince people that there's a secret cabal who's conspiring against you.

>>97491356
He can't even keep his stories straight, lmao
Sometimes it's an evil cabal, sometimes we're all the same guy because his Uno Reverse brain can't cope with us knowing he's just one guy. Actual brain damage.

>>97491345
if this guy floods the thread we will just make a new one.

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>>97490076
>Why people keep accusing other people of being fishfag?
they are satanic worshipers hating on goodhearted Christians
always mockingly referring to some sort of "satanic panic", talking about importance of demons and devils and whatnot
t. a proud fishfag for our lord Jesus Christ

>>97491673
>we

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Is there any reason to run this over the lost city?

>>97491755
dont you know that christ hates fags tho

>>97492084
Eh, its ok. the lost city kinda does everything it wants to do better.

>>97492084
You're not allowed to run that.

>>97492084
Is there any reason you are posting a one-line survey without any actual substance or discussion of your own?

>>97492972
Fishfag has asked himself a question and answered it six minutes later. It's what he's been doing for months at this point.

>97492972
>97492985
>trollcow only waited 3 minutes before making his ironic hypocrite posts

>>97492985
The lack of understanding in the question itself is quite telling too. He has no idea how to run the games for the general he's trying to take over.
>is there any reason to run adventure for levels 4-7 instead of adventure for levels 1-3?
and the response not even knowing that,
kek.

>>97493024
NAYRT but he really is a spectacular retard.

>trollcow got bored in his acks containment thread

>>97493065
>so assravaged they can't even click a post

>he's still here
What a lonely little shit.

>>97493024
>He has no idea how to run the games for the general he's trying to take over.
That's one of the elements that convinced me has some kind of neurological impairment that gives him a developmental delay coupled with a fixation of some sort. As well as his lack of a theory of mind, like when he says "trollcow" to make the fact that he's instantly recognisable as fishfag go away, or when he tries variations of "no you" as comebacks
>>97492994
All these features match literal non-savant autism: (1) Obsession over narrow topics (2) with only a flawed understanding of them, coupled with (3) an inability to comprehend the thought patterns of others.

>>97493085
Nou

>>97493153
Do people with autism know they have autism?

>>97493024
As has been demonstrated by his character sheets, he has such a fundamental lack of knowledge that I'm convinced he hasn't even read the books.

>>97493190
I've always been bothered by that misconception that "insane people don't know that they are insane".
People with mental illness or developmental disorders are absolutely capable of being aware of that.

>>97493190
Pretty sure most of them do. I've met several who basically introduced themselves as autistic, not as in the Zoomer self-identification thing to look special, but as in people in their fifties who are actually diagnosed as autistic and say it to minimise misunderstandings and awkwardness in social situations. But these were all highly successful and smart people in academia in STEM fields, so not really the same demographics as fishfag, who isn't exactly smart or self-aware.

Hey, can't hurt to ask!
>>97492994
>>97493065
>>97493085
Hey fishfag, have you actually been diagnosed with autism IRL?

>>97493205
Autism isn't a mental illness, though, it's neurodevelopmental disorder. People with schizophrenia, paranoia, psychosis, or bipolar (hypo)mania often aren't fully aware of their conditions, it's basically a feature of the condition itself. People with autism, except obviously for the very severe types, are usually capable of comprehending the nature of their condition and don't have any reason to be in denial about it.

But yeah, ultimately we agree that fishfag in particular very likely knows what his neurological / developmental condition is.

>>97493263
What about e.g. downies, do they know? Or is the mental retardation too strong for them to get it? I ask because severe autists are also mentally retarded, so...

>>97493263
did you not see the part of my post that said "developmental disorders"???
retard

>>97493284
There's a lot of variability in intelligence among them, but most of them are perfectly capable of understanding the concept and introspect that they have it. It's really hard to miss after all.

>>97493296
I did, but now I see that by how I phrase it looks like I didn't. My point is that there are many psychiatric conditions that come with a component of denial, that most neurodevelopmental conditions don't.

>>97493322
thats literally what I already said. Are you just wanking yourself off or summit?

>>97493327
Perhaps it's what you meant to say, but not what you did. People with mental illnesses often AREN'T aware that they have the condition: Schizophrenia, paranoia, psychosis, and mania are classic examples.

>>97493359
yap yap yap
fuck off

>>97493370
I accept your concession.

>>97493382
open wide, im gonna consneed all over your face

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>>97493391
NTA
You got rekt almost as bad as fishfag on an average day. Act like the man you aren't and take the L.

>>97493327
>thats
>>97493391
>im
You already talk like fishfag, try at least to come up with better arguments.

>>97493327
>U just using the shitpost thread to make fun of me mate?
lol

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>>97493423
>almost as bad as fishfag
Anon... that is Fishfag. From >>97493296
he's just pretending to be the actual normal anon you were talking to.

>>97493615
Thought so, but who cares? it's the hijack thread, he's basically trolling himself.

>>97492994
I think this triggered him particularly hard.
I don't even know how many levels of irony are happening, because a post about him being an ironic hypocrite lead him into a genuinely scizophrenic set of samefagging, and about mental illness just in case the hypocrisy might be too subtle.

It's like his entire existence is defined by hypocrisy.

>>97477969
OSRIC has no market.

>>97485605
>some reason
The psionic rules are kind of terrible. It's a tiny random chance your character can have reality/game breaking powers, and they're not actually any fun to use.
I think The Will and the Way does a much bettet job handling psionics.

>>97494104
Psionics is a dumb phrase.

Psychic powers.

>>97495399
>ACKShill makes another post
Let's put it through the truth filter.

>And then Fishfag wonders how people can ID him so easily,
"Please please please believe me when I tell you that everyone who has ever disagreed with me is all one person! Despite it clearly being so many different people I've accused of being just one, I will ignore all differences and exaggerate all similarities, and beg you to believe me even as I samefag shamelessly myself!"
>Sometimes it's the desperate attempts to rewrite history.
"I'm so terrified whenever people say the easily verified truth, because all I can ever do is lie and hope that someone is out there actually reading my posts and only my posts. God, whenever people post the truth, it makes me so angry, I wish they would stop!"
>Or the constant repetition of the same phrases
"Why do people keep accusing me of the same sins I keep committing? Don't they realize I hate that?! It makes it so much harder to keep doing the same shit."

>>97495564
>Jews are secretly Reptoids who are directly connected to Moloch

The only thing wrong about this statement is the Reptoids nonsense and even that is up to debate

>>97495564
>Only I can see the truth
Nah, it's just the truth is almost always the exact opposite of what you're trying to convince people.
Otherwise, you wouldn't be spending so much of your life trying to gaslight the board like you do.

>gaslighting gaslighting gaslighting
Every accusation is a confession with this guy

>>97495133
>phrase
ESL retard lmao
>>97495564
>the Jews are secretly Reptoids who are directly connected to Moloch who as we all know is part of a 10,000 year old conspiracy
this part is factual thobeit

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>>97495753

>>97494104
Psionics never needed to exist. You don't need both magic and not-magic. Even Darksun could have gotten by with "mind magic". I think Gary was just still riding the Gamma World high.

>>97497209
I've liked psionics ever since I read one of the Drizzt books.
While all the Drow houses had lost their magic from Lloth for some reason, one of the houses had been secretly cultivating psionic abilities, and they were planning on taking control of the drow city while all the other houses were powerless.
They just went to the house of one of their rivals, killed everyone with their minds, and everything was looking great for them.
I forget how it ended, but just the whole thing with psionics being a really poorly understood thing that can be kept secret and then fuck the shit out of people when regular magic fails is pretty cool.

>>97497410
> a really poorly understood thing that can be kept secret and then fuck the shit out of people when regular magic fails is pretty cool.
I feel like Psionics should be there, but should only be used situationally for settings like dark sun or monsters like mind flayers.

>>97493864
do not feed trollcow. ignore him and keep posting.

>he's still pushing that stupid nickname
It really pissed you off that one time I called you a lolcow, didn't it?

>>97473748
speaking of psionics, has anyone ran any dark sun campaigns recently?

>>97497825
And what's your favorite thing about Birthright? And do you like thick walls or thin walls?

>>97497825
i am working on something, but it is far from done. think lost city meets even more lovecraft and you will have an idea of it.

>>97497825
>>97497842
>>97497904
fishfag is back to feigning conversation

>>97497956
The one in the middle is just me making fun of him ;-)

>>97497904
update us when it's ready. i'll be posting stuff that i'm making as well.

So I'm looking to give Shadow of the Weird Wizard a try.
It's been a good few years since I last GM'd something, and whilst I have been looking at the OSR noob guides, and plan on making use of them, I was wondering if anyone had good experiences with any of the Weird Wizard, or Demon Lord, modules?

>>97498321
>demon lord or weird wizard
hmmmm... what made come to this thread for advice specifically?

>>97497969
Poe's law strikes again

>>97498472
Because I was under the impression that it tended to be classified as an OSR game

>>97498539
well that's an interesting take.
seems like you've been mislead anon, no harm done, no offense taken

>>97498539
It could be used for it, I guess. I don't know if its a popular choice though for Old School stuff.
Then again, it's based on 5e, and I've seen dozens of OSR adventures and other materials either made for or compatible with 5e.

Oh, and avoid that noob guide, it was made just a few months ago by a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about. He thinks OSR means what the guys in the K&K forum told him it means, and they're basically a weird cult with only a couple hundred members trying to dictate what OSR is for thousands.

>>97498539
It's not, but even if it was, this isn't actually an OSR thread, it's just some sperg's shitpost. The actual /osrg/ is here: >>97473611
(Although, again, you're not going to get good answers there either because SotWW isn't an OSR game)

>>97498635
>he is convinced that K&KA is an evil cabal trying to control the OSR from the shadows even though most of them don't even use the term
>he doesn't even know what it's called
kekkk, the mental defect strikes again

>>97498637
This guy is the troll who wants to push that K&K nonsense.
He'll use every underhanded trick imaginable, because he's part of a minority hoping to pretend to be in control.

>>97498644
>from the shadows
They're open about how they think they're the ones who decide what OSR means. That's what forced them off of Dragonsfoot and why they made their own forum, which died after only getting like a thousand people.

Forum died, but the weirdos didn't, and continue to try dumb shit like whatever the fuck it is you're trying to do.

>>97497410
>I forget how it ended
Lloth had them all killed for the lols.

>>97498647
nou

>>97498635
5TD is osr here, no reason Shadow of the Censored Wizard isn't.

>>97498665
Most of the remaining 2d8 K&K users are Wizened greybeards who played during 1e's release. It's doubtful most of them know how to use 4chan, and the techy ones likely don't care. I doubt trollcow is a k&k user, but he is no doubt influenced by thejr ideology (or the BroSR that spawnrd from them) somebow.

>>97498812
>the brosr gangstalks me!
No fish. Everyone hates you because you're obnoxious. It happens everywhere you go. You're the common problem.

>>97498812
Definitely influenced by, but even more extreme. I don't even think the K&KA ever claimed OSRIC was the first OSR system, and they're the guys who made it. Trollcow however has said numerous times that he believes that it was the first, and that's because that has to be the case for his erroneous extremist ideology to work.

>>97473488
Are there any settings for intended solo play? I've looked at setting sourcebooks and hexcrawl maps before but none of them seemed like they would be good for solo reference. They seemed purely for GM reference.
Not sure if I am getting my question across properly.

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>>97498647
>>97498665
>glue-sniffing, fully irradiated mania
lmao OK bro, try your hardest to pretend you're not just seething your ass off because all your usurpation attempts have failed. Maybe you can try starting /todd/ again!

>>97499952
>usurpation
Nice projection.

>>97499036
In theory, and I mean purely in theory, Birthright or Council of Wyrms could work for some kind of solo scenarios.

>>97499036
>Are there any settings for intended solo play?
What the fuck would "a setting intended for solo play" even look like,? Guess what, you're the gm and the player, that's what playing solo is, dummy. A setting for solo play has no meaningful difference to one intended for multiple players.
Anyway why are you asking here instead of the solo thread?

>>97498845
Watching him encounter new, interesting subcultures across the board only to immediately piss them off, be told to fuck off and whine it's part of some grand, overarching conspiracy is a truly remarkable experience.

>>97500773
Yes, one of many factors suggesting he has genuine severe autism. What I don't really get though is why he latched onto the OSR specifically so hard; he quit trying to spergmerge /3eg/ with Pathfinder after only 2-3 attempts, and he clearly doesn't have any *functional* attachment to the OSR because he's repeatedly demonstrated that he knows absolutely nothing about it or any related games, and is in fact entirely hostile to the concept of learning. That's the factor that makes me think it's just a retarded discordtranny raid and that they're mad about some imagined slight by /osrg/ in the past.

>>97500767
Council of Wyrms actually seems like a setting that makes more sense for solo play than for groups. While the hatchling and young dragon stuff kind of still resembles PCs going on an adventure, the older dragon stuff begins to feel weird, especially with the "dragon-sized" dungeons made to accomodate several giant lizards who happen to be working together.

Using the setting for more politics and strategy oriented play makes more sense than trying to force dragons into dungeons.

>>97500833
>"dragon-sized" dungeons made to accomodate several giant lizards who happen to be working together
Wow, the walls in those must be thick af.

>>97500833
>Council of Wyrms actually seems like a setting that makes more sense for solo play than for groups
Okay, let's see how---
>proceeds to post a bunch of stuff that isn't relevant in any way to whether a game is solo or not
Do you have brain damage?

>>97500840
One in Book 3 has "low" ceilings that are only about 150 feet high. Sure, that's higher than the Pantheon, but it'a not a setting built with engineers in mind.

>>97500893
kek
retarded, as is all 2e content

>>97500856
Running solo dungeon crawls is less interesting to me than bigger picture solo projects that let you really put a lot of thought into everything.
It's kind of like how when you reduce the number of players you run a game for, the more you can concentrate your attention on each player and what they're doing, and can spend longer on more complicated aspects of RPGs. Drop it down all the way to zero players, and the principle still holds true.

>>97500942
>Running solo dungeon crawls is less interesting to me than bigger picture solo projects that let you really put a lot of thought into everything.
Sound like you're moving out of the realm of RPG and into worldbuilding and one-man Diplomacy. You do you, I guess, but it doesn't have a lot to do with the subject at hand.

>>97500816
>>97500773
>quadrupling down on lying and projection.

>>97500982
The Solo RPG is already outside the realm of the RPG, just like calling masturbation "Solo Sex" wouldn't change that it is a fundamentally different activity then sex, though with some similarities.

>>97501004
The weird thing is that trollcow was 100% the guy who trolled the 3.5 general, and he thinks it makes any sense at all for it to have been anyone other than him.

>>97500917
>I don't know anything about 2e.

>>97501185
You've proven that on many occasions, 2efag

>>97501023
See, the thing about that claim that makes it hard for a nonschizo to buy is that, A, "Trollcow" doesn't exist, it's just your cope name for every single poster in /osrg/, and B, it makes absolutely no sense for any of them to go around and randomly troll /3eg/, especially not in some absolutely OSR-unrelated way.

>>97501187
I think you meant to reply to >>97500917 2e has things people still love today such as Dark Sun, Spelljammer, and Planescape settings. Games that are still played like Icewind Dale series, Planescape Torment, and Baldur's Gate series. Added stuff to D&D that are still around such as half dragons, tiefling, and wild magic. Overall the retard here is you.

>>97501207
It makes as much sense as calling every post you don't like fishfag.

>>97501207
Did you start calling everyone fishfag because you thought that would somehow prevent people from indentifying you? Because all it did was help everyone identify you, trollcow.

You have a bad habit of thinking up some dumb plan that will inevitably backfire, and tagging all your posts was definitely one of them.

>>97501261
These settings are all retarded, especially Spelljammer. Without DiTerlizzi's art nobody would even remember Planescape either though, and arguable the same is true of Brom and Dark Sun.

But, however, all this is off-topic for an OSR thread, so take it somewhere else. It doesn't belong here.

>>97501267
>>97501322
No, the distinction there is that Fishfag, i.e. you, really are just one (extremely recognizable) person.

See, this is why your Uno Reverse shit doesn't ever actually work: because you don't seem to understand that merely making the accusation isn't enough to make it credible or effective.

>>97501357
Too bad for you most people have brains so disagree with your durr durr it's bad or (off topic) because I say so derp.

>>97501261
>people still love today
Yet you have to resort to going to threads that are not about those things and begging people to talk to you about them, for years now.

>>97501425
Your butthurt about 2e being on topic is beside the point.

>>97501261
>Added stuff to D&D that are still around such as half dragons, tiefling, and wild magic. Overall the retard here is you.
>n-no you don't understand!!! 2esloppa added many things to the game that are still part of 3esloppa and even 5esloppa!!!!!!!
>this makes it even more hardcore super mega ultra OSR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao

>>97501414
>most disagree
Again, it is not sufficient for you to just declare shit for it to become true or plausible. Literally no one, in the entire world, believes 2e is OSR except you, thus it is off-topic in any thread labeled an OSR thread.
>>97501425
Not only that but he was actively enraged by /2eg/ when some smarter anons tried to start it lmao

>>97501371
Even the names are a show of how different the two are.
>Fishfag, named for the tame he threw an absolute wobbly over a story he didn't like that involved fishing and acted like a faggot by pretending not to understand it to try and win internet points
>Trollcow - Neither a troll, now a cow, though Fishfag certainly spends a lot of time trying to milk the shit out of it.
One is a direct response to the actions of the person, describing the things they did that make them recognizable and the other is what exactly?
It's the same reason Fishfag goes through nicknames like a fat kid through a pack of twinkies, he can't settle on one because there's no unifying identity he can use to define his enemy because it's not just one person.
Meanwhile everyone around him can go "Is he a fish, is he acting like a fag? Got it in one"
/tg/ guess who is a very esoteric traditional game

>>97501492
Trollcow, I'll save you years of your life.
No one actually reads your posts.
And when you have samefag puppet shows with yourself, everyone can tell.

>>97501492
>It's the same reason Fishfag goes through nicknames like a fat kid through a pack of twinkies, he can't settle on one because there's no unifying identity he can use to define his enemy because it's not just one person.
Precisely. The "BrOSR" accusation is another example. He was just casting about for a cabal to accuse us of being and couldn't seize on anything better (largely due to his own incompetence). Then he tried "K&KA" (which he still can't abbreviate correctly) and that Discord he made up, and the funny thing is, all of these asshurt nicknames tacitly admit that there are lots of us and only one of him, contradicting his own claim that he's many people being persecuted by a solitary troll.

>>97501468
>Durr durr
If those things were bad they would never made out of 2e.
>>97501480
>everyone agrees with me because I say so, even when it is clear I am talking out of my ass.
If you get over your asshurt you would see that no one is saying you have to use 2e stuff if you don't want to.

>>97501537
Again, please take your babbling about 2e to a different thread, as it is off topic here. This is an OSR thread, as clearly delineated by the subject line, so your new-school edition doesn't belong here.

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Who's the best RPG designer after Gygax, Arneson, and Wesely? I personally vote for the guy in picrel.

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>>97501588
For me, it's the fat man. His hatred of 2e tips the scales.

>>97501551
Or you could go to some other thread.

>>97501657
Nah, that makes no sense. You're the one trying to push off-topic material ITT, not me.

>>97501832
Your retarded whining is off topic.

>>97501866
>devolution to empty ad hominem arguments
Again, huh? Ran out of arguments so soon?
See, this is what they mean when they say you're predictable.

>>97501877
I am not replying to an argument, retard. I am telling you that you are doing what you accuse those talking about 2e of doing.

>>97500840
>>97500893
If you've got dragon-sized builders, dragon-sized dungeons become trivial.

>>97501521
Hi applesauce.

>>97500816
There's a specific kind of autist that doesn't even have to like or care about the subject, they just lose their shit when anyone else removes the possibility of maybe having anything to do with their imagination of it. They're a spoiled child throwing a tantrum until they get their way.

>>97501911
2e is off-topic. Fuck off, fishfag

>>97502140
You are wrong and stupid. Your dumb posts are less on topic for these threads than 3e.

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anyone run undermountain recently? any tips in running it?

>>97502551
Bloody hell. Sometimes I forget how fucking big the thing is.

>>97502612
it's FUCKHUEG as a megadungeon should be.
the only thing i worry about is how you are expected to key that thing.

>>97502551
>Undermountain again
It's like he has three posts and runs them on repeat, kek

>>97502641
shut up eggboy.

>>97502660
>eggboy
New hapless fishfag nickname dropped! Totally inscrutable this time as well, autism/8

>>97502660
i recommend medication

>>97473488
Tékumel is the easiest answer.

>>97473488
Unpopular opinion, but, Midnight.

>>97501617
Who's that?

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>>97503278
>Who's that?

>>97503284
Oh. I didn't know he hated 2e. Based if true. Where does he talk or write about it? Love to hear people dissing on the dogshit edition for mongoloids.

>>97502979
Never heard of it. Do tell.

>>97502692
What an utterly spectacular retard fishfag is. Never ceases to amaze me.

>>97503284
He looks like a tub of tofu that's been left in a warm dumpster.

>>97505051
>>97505111
Don't bump the troll thread, dumbasses.

>>97502631
I think it gets chopped up into smaller sections, basically dungeons within a dungeon.

Mega dungones are weird, because it takes a long time for their giant size to have any special meaning, unless the players just try to make a beeline from one end to the other.

Note to mistaken users of this fishfag hijack thread. The actual successor thread is now up at:

>>97504910
>>97504910
>>97504910

>>97501261
> still played like Icewind Dale series, Planescape Torment,
Baldur's Gate sure, but no one plays ID or PT.

>>97505111
Eat shit and die. He's done more for the osr scene then you'll do for yourself your entire life

>>97505689
This. Raggi is a cool guy with legit business practices and his stance on freedom of expression feels more and more prescient every day.

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>>97505111
rich coming from someone who looks like picrel

>>97505689
>>97505754
He looks like someone that would get pre-registered as a sex offender.

>>97505800
Kek yeah right, I hope you get your skull stomped in btw

>>97505800
>t. post-registered

>>97500731
I'll check it out thanks
>>97500767
Little bitch behaviour

>>97506146
answer the question, nogames faggot

What the fuck would "a setting intended for solo play" even look like?

>>97506180
He can't, there's no such thing, so he has to deflect instead

>>97506401
TRVKE

>>97473727
>>97473728

This is the real thread because it doesn't have useless restrictions. If you- singularly, YOU- would stop shitting up this thread, that would be delightful.

>>97476401
Dungeondraft also works well in Linux. I have a friend who does everything in Inkarnate and it looks great but it blows my mind that when that website goes down there's no offline viewer or even sets of files that I know of. I still have some campaign crap from when I was fourteen, sure most of it is not useful to me today but some of it is, and I wouldn't want to lose it, as online-only things inevitably get lost.

>>97479217
100%, anything that removes "race" is a huge red flag and a strong argument to pass on it in exchange for something less puss-ass.

>>97479832
Yea it is, but I still prefer AD&D (both editions) to any of the B/X or BECMI stuff because I put so much work into it back in the day. As a result of its cleaner design its easier to convert B/X into AD&D than it is the other way, so it's also superior as a lingua franca for OSR.

>>97506513
>useless restrictions
Yes, we know you love 2e, faggot.

>>97506513
>If you- singularly, YOU- would stop shitting up this thread, that would be delightful.
Theres likely several of them
turns out theres a discord hidden in the pastebin
Theres several bad actors hiding out in it.

>>97506513
>useless restrictions.
2e if off topic everywhere because its dogshit lmao
>>97506601
>theres a discord hidden in the pastebin
one that youre a member of, even :)

>>97506601
I don't use discord because it's full of faggots, much like you on a Friday night.

>>97506855
Might be a lot more than that, if you believe his claims of having been around ever since the earliest /osrg/ threads, which would make him our original 2efag instead of a Johnny-come-lately

>>97506916
There's not really any point in believing anything the shithead says.

>>97506513
>useless restrictions
Yes, restricting /3eg/ to just 3e sure is a useless restriction! It would make much more sense to expand the definiton of 3e to also include 2e! Oh wait, no, no it wouldn't. Retard.

>>97506968
So you DID try trolling /3eg/ just to try and make a point (and a wrong one, since the /3eg/ is defined by 3rd edition, and the /osrg/ should be defined by OSR, which 2e is a part of).

Man, you really are disgusting and shameless. And a fucking idiot for inadvertantly admitting what you just did.

>>97507122
??? you are a fucking moron

>>97507122
No, you hopeless clod, I'm making fun of YOU for trolling /3eg/, as well as using it as an example of how stupid you are trolling /osrg/.

>>97507122
He is completely open and shameless while also lying to your face and projecting his actions onto you. A permaban would fix the issue.

>>97507122
>OSR, which 2e is a part of
wrong

>>97507122
>hit the nail on the head
>trollcow goes into samefagging panic mode

I hate to admit it, but I do enjoy watching him squirm.

>>97507326
>projecting hard again
lmao, leaving aside that there's no samefagging, where's the panic, retard? It's not like with >>97474395 where there are instantly three seething replies within minutes all clearly written by the same person, assblasted at being found out.

>>97507283
You sure are, kid.

>>97507249
>permaban
>ip hops
lol

>>97507493
Nah, he's right. 2e was never considered part of the OSR, by anyone; only the plebbitards and their ridiculous soggy fear of gatekeeping have ever included it, which demonstrates elegantly where you came from.

>>97507708
>t. stupid person who wrong.

>>97507754
2e is dogshit garbage. It's literally the worst D&D edition ever published. Only retards like it, and practically nobody plays it. Which is why people who are actually into the OSR and play hate it.

>>97507249
>lying to your face and projecting his actions onto you
Fishfag is trying the "no you" defence once again.

>>97507783
Sorry to hear you are too retarded to play any D&D edition. Also see >>97501261

>>97507754
>absolutely void reply
>full ESL-tier grasp of English on display
Hmmmmmmm, I wonder who this could be?

>>97507853
The gnome who lives in your head?

>>97473472
Attempting a new thread
Jannies might see the fake thread up and prune, if it does then ill just make a new one when the fake one hits bump limit.
>>97507896

>>97507900
Eat shit, fishfag, 2e is not OSR

>>97507754
Wow! Great argument!

>>97507900
>Attempting a troll thread before this one even goes into autosage
You manage to get worse every day. It's impressive.

>>97507916
u mad.

>>97507953
>Stupid person who wrong
You're a braindead caveman, ESL fishfag

Another useless shit thread by fishfag.

>>97508834
Affirmative

>>97507900
sadly did get pruned. dont worry, a proper thread will appear when the fake ones done.

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>>97506589
>>97506649
>>97506855
>>97507283

If you- there's just one of you- leave this thread, then we can talk about OSR here, which includes 2ed. It is a literal outrage that you aren't banned on site for coming into this thread.

>>97506916
I've made no such claims. You respond to me as if I'm someone else, which is retarded. There's plenty of people who think 2e is either OSR or at least can tolerate the idea of a thread where this is ok.

The fact that you are willing to come into this thread instead of staying in your stupid 2e-hater containment thread means that you have no other values. You hate the OSR and anyone discussing it. You are disgusting.

>>97509108
he has been doing this since october of 2025 when he initially hijacked this general. He has been trolling ever since and likely before.
He doesn't have the sense to fuck off yet. i wish the admins would permaban him.

>>97507900
>new thread
good
this thread was much more comfy than the brosr alternative

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>>97509108
How about you suck a cock and die of asphyxiation on it?

>>97509108
How can you be so assblasted about something which you know yourself is a lie?

>>97509171
>>97509108
Eat shit and die, fishfag. 2e is garbage and off topic.

>>97509232
>the thread I made is much comfier than the other thread I made to be a shitter

>>97510130
No, your stupid posts are garbage and off topic.