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Miscellaneous Binder Edition
Here is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.
>Build Divide
>Force of Will
>Final Fantasy TCG
>DBZ CCG
>Wixoss
>Keyforge
>Gundam
>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)
>Digimon
>Flesh and Blood
>Gate Ruler
>Battle Spirits
>Ashes
>One Piece
>The other DBZ game
>Sorcery
>Doomtown
>Warlord
>Magi Nation
>Lord of the Rings
>Neopets
>The Condemned CCG
>Grand Archive TCG
>Disney Lorcana
>Hubworld: Aidalon
>Little Troubles
>Riftbound
etc.
Post about card games you've played and help other anons get to know your games!
Pastebin/Rules for some games
>Wixoss
https://pastebin.com/LC8SpttH
>FoW
https://pastebin.com/aGEBEKeF
>Dragonball GT SD
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj_0YeUXI5g4XyKwbAXJuZCGt3qWJwyp
>Gate Ruler
https://pastebin.com/nbcZP0nB
>Build Divide
https://pastebin.com/1cQT2pkz
>FaB
https://rentry.org/oypcs
>Ashes Reborn
https://pastebin.com/2jr0EG9S
>Netrunner
https://pastebin.com/g3yQAQ7w
>Fusion World
https://www.dbs-cardgame.com/fw/pdf/rules/fw_OfficialRule_Manual_en_v1 .00_2.pdf
>Various Japanese CCGs without western translation (page is in moonrunes)
http://card.g1.xrea.com/tcg/catalog.html
>The Condemned CCG
https://pastebin.com/Liu2E7Rq
voice chat for playing /acg/
https://discord.gg/rCQFKcGcEP
>Previous Thread
>>97445939
>Thread Question
What are some of the more unusual or obscure things in your collection?
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>TQ
I got a promo card for Santa Claus back when I used to play UFS.
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It's just cardboard, stop killing trees
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>>97479871
I want to fuck your cards
>Richard Garfield
Nevermind...
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>>97480970
https://x.com/wixoss_TCG/status/2017764840497156159
This one? It only mentions the cards being store exclusive and limited to available stock. If you can find the tweet announcing the lvl 0 promos I can check those too
>>97480985
Google lens has been pretty good for clearly written text like these actually, it's the handwritten comics and vertical text ones it has trouble with
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>>97481023
Near the end here. https://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/wixoss/product/wx26_cp1/
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Ok, fuck you, Lorcana.
I had quickly thrown a mostly ruby deck to test it out with a friend, one based on boosting the power of my ruby characters with the help of Ruby Champion Donald and Lumiere. To my embarrassment, when I drew my hand, I had the wrong Lumiere. I didn't even know there were 2 different 2-drop Lumieres, and the fact that their images are very similar didn't help. Sure, my fault for grabbing my cards by recognizing their pictures, but WHY release 2 in a nearly identical pose? If they had even just flopped the image, it would have been fine! Thank god this didn't happen at a tournament.
Ugh. I guess I'll have to learn to READ.
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>>97481361
That doesn't seem to stop them on other cards.
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>>97480732
Thanks, I'll post more of the stupid fuckable stuff in this binder after work.
>>97481068
It couldn't be helped. I had to win and claim the booty, for Senchou's sake. Even if that meant not being able to play her.
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>>97481673
I was saying that I cheated in a relationship sense. I played a deck that uses Hololive members that are not my favorite, because my favorite, Marine (Senchou), is not allowed in this specific tournament. I cheated on HER, not in the game.
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>>97481729
Visions of the Inevitable - 2D2C
Target player Permanently Reveals their current hand.
That player cannot lose the game so long as at least one of the revealed cards is still in their hand.
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God I love 8c Carrot.
This one card has won me so many games by turning an almost hopeless situation into a blowout that feels like it came out of nowhere.
Makes the Carrot deck so fun to play.
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>>97482023
ohh ok, I thought you cheated your way to the first place haha
>>97481988
I also like dome cards, but I still want to have some cards and play them
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>>97482267
see for urself ;)
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>>97480197
Cardboard is somehow not even one of our biggest worries when it comes to deforestation. It's all of the completely pointless land clearing to make room for even more grazing animals so people can try to get into the cattle industry and sell more beef on the international market.
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>>97482302
T_T ok thanks, I get it now
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>>97482251
>a tracking nightmare
PRed cards stay face up, at worst you need to keep them separate from a different group of PRed cards in this particular instance.
>a judge/FAQ nightmare
Only if people are stupid.
>a guaranteed balance nightmare
Balancing comes later but it's already somewhat expansive and pretty much any combo deck will want to use it on the opponent if they're ahead and on themselves only if they're desperate for stalling.
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>>97482023
>because my favorite, Marine (Senchou), is not allowed in this specific tournament
too good or to stop the gooners?
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>>97482117
Do you have some core mechanic that removes cards from your opponent's hands? Or did you deliberately decide that every single deck needs to run cards that discard cards that forces your opponent to discard?
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>>97482471
That's what the instructions are for. Next you'll complain MtG lands are blank-texted nowadays.
>>97482462
>*discards your hand*
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>>97482049
A lot of Daki merch is reused for this but most of those are pretty tame. For original art made for the game, Marine 2nd her OUR, and one of the Mori 1sts in set 6 are top 3 horniest cards in the game.
>>97482486
That anon played in an Entry Cup and Entry Cups only allow members who at least one holomem card that set to be playable. Anon couldn't play his Oshi so he ended up playing one of the best decks in that meta.
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naruhodo.
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>>97482501
You run that, or you run any alternate wincon, or you rush your opponent before he can play that. There's a reason pic-related mentions your opponent too.
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>>97482486
>to stop the gooners
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>>97482683
And then I forget to post the Horny card. 300 Dollars by the way.
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>>97482729
Do you think she'll join Tamaproject when she graduates?
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Is flesh and blood really good?
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>>97479999
managed to get an imu deck for a non retarded price. got 4 ground deaths for 10 which was better than what tcgplayer had to offer. really enjoying the one piece card game, haven't had fun with a TCG in years. What are some decks y'all have really enjoyed even if it isn't meta? I'm dogshit and new so I only know the starters and a few current tournament decks. I love the blue buggy playstyle plan on upgrading my deck to something a bit beefier after my imu cards come in.
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Did the thing, think I got it alright. Someone proofread me though, I probably fucked up a key phrase somewhere.
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>>97481624
>I'll post more of the stupid fuckable stuff in this binder after work.
Thanks, you are based!
>>97482222
I want to fuck your cardWhat I like about One Piece is that the effects are simple and aren't over the top. Yet, they are strong like this. I hope it stays this way, but knowing Bandai...
>>97482267
There are cheap games like Pokémon and expensive games like FaB, but most range from 50~150 dollars. Other anons can correct if I'm wrong.
>your pet deck or rogue can't compete
That completely depends on the game.
>>97482729
I want to fuck your card
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>>97484187
Bless you. I'll try to let the thread have a copy of the Xenomortal instructions once I buy it in a few months.
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>>97484283
The Providence Gundam makes Zaft super fun to play, so I'm happy. It seems even less balanced than before but there's a much wider variety of absolute bullshit that decks can do, so I think you'll see a lot more than just Wing Zero or Qubeley/Kshatriya decks winning tournaments now.
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>>97484515
yes
>>97484394
thanks, I'll check the rules later
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>>97482222
As a carrotfag I was fucking pumped I pulled that card during pre release....then I dropped it it in the parking lot and bent the top. Honestly, glad I did. It's 100% my card now and any temptation of reselling is gone.
Sad getting a box of eb03 for a decent price is going to be impossible. I have the jp 6c alt already but I want an english one to actually play with.
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>these prices
Game is cooked. I gave up on building yellow Boa and upgrading Nami. I'm too much of a poorfag for this game.
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>>97484640
That new 5 cost nami is just going to add to the yellow tax
bc of box scarcity they're going to be $40 starting no doubt.
I've heard stories of card shows being littered with unsold op boxes, so it'll crash soon...hopefully
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>>97483646
Can't you just state in your will that your collection should be taken to 'X' place for appraisal and/or liquidation after your death so that whoever you bequeath it to can get the most out of it?
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>be me sucker for anything Anubis
>look into Rush of Ikorr while doing the usual Target run because I saw this for the first time
>Egypt stuff
>Anubis cards
>can get it in this special "Fracture" foil
>zero singles online
>while looking up sold listings see Metazoo2 released this Secret Shadows Set with Anubis pack art
>full art Anubis card is triple digits, around $200+
It always sucks when card games are so hard to find singles of that a few people basically control the market unless you collect everything yourself since TCGPlayer or other sites don't pick it up.
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>>97483320
It's fun, but Classic Constructed in very expensive. They launched a new C+UC format, but I doubt that it will be very popular among the players who have already sunk fortunes into the expensive version of the game.
Either way, the gameplay is good and it has a good way of giving you the illusion right down to the last moments that you have a chance to win an already lost game.
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>>97483586
Just tell them that it's worth a lot, if it does, so that they don't get ripped off. Also, if you have a good buddy in your local gaming community, give his contact info to your relatives, so that he can evaluate the collection and find a buyer for it for a percentage.
Don't tell them to bring the collection (or a list of it) to a random LGS, they'll get swindled for sure.
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You really do need to leave a 1 page guide to understanding whatever it is you have that's valuable, and also leave it in a place it won't be ignored.
It's like the metalfags who spend their whole life stacking, then their kids liquidate it at an estate sale or shady pawn shop, when there's a perfectly fair bullion dealer two blocks away.
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>>97486420
Gundam War would be an example.
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>>97486452
and how the [auto] works, please? do you need to pay something to use it or what are the condition met to use the auto or it trigger when it's on the field?
I'm trying to understand what [auto] in a card games mean
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>>97486738
The exact details can be slightly different for each game, but usually the cards will tell you that the effect is triggered by an event or is active at all times.
Let's look at Sandrock in my picture. The first effect is active at all times. The second effect is active when the card is in reroll status (untapped, in this game).
Altron, in my picture, is similar - the first effect is active at all times. The second effect is active during your battle phase.
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Here's another game, for example. The card itself tells you the exact conditions you need, the cost you must pay, and what effect you get.
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>>97484743
It's cope, but I hope Bandai overprints this set eventually
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>>97486819
I got it now thank you very much
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>>97487491
Excellent. Happy to help ^_^
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>>97488326
The Buggy starter deck is surprisingly good for a starter deck. It's strong on its own for casual play and even upgrading it will cost you a couple of bucks at most with like 8-12 super cheap cards. Well, besides buying a second Buggy starter deck for the SR cards, because 2x4 of each of those is mandatory for the Buggy deck and there are only 2x2 in one Starter Deck.
But you can also try the simulator for free, if you want to experience more decks for free. It's recommended to do net decking (copying well performing decks), because the deck building gets very linear and non-negotiable on the higher levels of the game.
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is this card strong? it's so cool I want to build a deck around/with him
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>shitters are STILL running basic bitch wing Zero decks in fucking 2026 when all these new decks exist that fucking clown on the wall of blockers they throw up
OH NO NO NO DID THEY NOT GET THE MEMO AS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA GET ALTRON'D BITCH
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>>97488546
It's a big fat "maybe". The card itself is super strong in a deck that otherwise is already really strong in the mid range. This is a definite boss monster type if I have ever seen one myself.
What's not clear to me however is how you get to this wincon on a blocker deck. Lockon can only snipe a single blocker when paired, then he has to force the trades himself (which is still terrible for the opp either way because lfrith can't damage you as a blocker and Ricky dias is only gonna net 1 HP). The classic freedom blockers deck is gonna start to give you a bit of pain there in the mid range though. I think you've gotta be really deluberate with armed intervention to keep trades favorable (or utilize your CB blockers well). But this did get some good shit too in the form of the breach Dynames, 0 Gundam,bridge crew could make some openings, the new kyrios maybe, maybe even the new virtue.
That being said, I see two problems here
1) you only have so much room to use all these tools in 50 cards
2) I can't shake the feeling that the winning deck against the white blocker meta is a losing deck against the rush meta, and vice versa.
Which puts you in a bind. But there is a card dig effect here, and you've got a lot of tools to control how the game goes and stop your opp from gaining too much of an advantage.
I think it's a deck worth building, and I honestly do think it's a good card. At worst, this is a pretty fun deck in theory, it plays a LOT differently than the rest of the meta, because you effectively get more of a mandate to dictate the flow of combat with all these tools vs the blunt force of "I run blockers or I run Amuro and do the thing" because you really have to learn what's gonna open the best opportunity up for you. So I think it's worth it, but be prepared for a learning curve.
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>>97488682
Not remotely. I think any curve with lower CB units up to the trans am version probably has potential. Probsbly max fatal strike, tactical visionary, then play around with pilot ratios and go from there. Max lockons is great, then maybe 3 setsuna, 3 allajuah, 2-3 Tierra (possibly less, I historically don't like more than about 10 or so pilots), then id probably run a max stack of armed intervention, then just fill from there and see where you wind up.
I'm for what its, worth, the blind leading the blind here. Vegas is in about a week so we will probably see what wins, if anything.
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>>97488805
Yeah I actually just tried myself and realized that I was already out of cards before I got what I said in. It seems like all 4 pilots have strengths that compliment each other, but you just hate only so much space. I am going to Vegas myself, so I'm honestly curious to see what I run into.
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Gundamanon, did the Psycho turn out good? It's my favorite mobile suit/armor and I heard it was bad in the old Gundam War card game. I at least know it being blue is good since that has strong cards in it.
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i played Psyco for a bit after GD02 came out and had fun.
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>>97484743
>I will never own this card
Sadness.
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>>97488326
Green Zoro is pretty like ungabunga swing big numbers with leader.
And part of his package can be carried into other leaders like Mihawk
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New updates on the Battle Spirits format/reboot: https://www.battlespirits.com/news/2026/shin-kaihou-project-4.php.
Not too much that's really interesting here, but highlights are:
>card frame redesign finalized and shown off
>6 starter decks for the new format release in April
>First set for the new format releases a week after the starter decks, titled "The Heartbeat of Creation"
>First collab set for the new format with Kamen Rider releases in June
>Eternal format gets a set in May
We're supposed to get reveals for the Standard cards starting this month
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>>97488326
I started learning with Reiju back during OP10, which is very simple to play. It's not really close to meta anymore, but it can still get a bunch of wins if you get lucky with your Ichiji's.
Deck's really cheap as well.
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Thanks, anons. I'm going to test those and Buggy
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>>97488632
>I can't shake the feeling that the winning deck against the white blocker meta is a losing deck against the rush meta, and vice versa.
So an RPS meta? Wouldn't some people say that's a good thing, or not quite so here?
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I finally acquired shotalolicat.
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Name a bigger joke set than compendium
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>>97491153
LSS is not only out of ideas they're proud of it.
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>>97489507
They don't have the technology to pull off this foil texturing, but I guess that you could buy a shittier version of it for yourself at home to cope with that fact.
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>>97491137
How many fucking boosters do you even buy from this set for a sealed tournament? 12? 16? 8 is definitely not enough for any kind of reasonable deck with FAB's stupid sealed tournament deck building rules and the hero color limit.
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>>97491539
>he thinks he can draft/sealed an entire ranger deck from pen, full of exactly zero damaging arrows and a bevy of situational whoopee cushions that fart out exotic tokens
God bless this mess of a card player. James says you're privileged to receive such a set that pulled no fomo punches.
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>>97491137
I'm new to FAB and was pretty hyped for this but by the time spoilers came around I knew enough about the game to know that this is just trash?
What is this, genuinely? This is marketed as aa supplement stuff and it was marketed as helping SAGE and....a lot of it just doesn't? It doesn't feel like this set was designed at all to help SAGE. It's just a random pile of cards that dont really have any cohesion or feel like they're designed to help classes in SAGE in any way and then some of the cards while good in SAGE don't feel like they're designed for SAGE.
Why did they lie about the competitiveness of the SAGE pre-cons? Why does it seem like they're fumbling so hard?
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>It's just a random pile of cards that dont really have any cohesion or feel
Lss excels only at designing draft card pools, admitting to spending 80% of their team's focus on that alone, and even then they have one good set for every two they attempt. They've lost complete touch with the balance of their own game and choked BIG TIME when their whole userbase cried out collectively "our classes need more support!" They instead chose to cater to the second loudest voice in the room "we can't afford to collect five year old staples!" And thus they set out to cater to everyone at once.
This game isn't going to get better until they realize their release model is utterly broken and is unsustainable. They need to hurry up and make a limited core set that equalizes everything at once. Pen shouldve been that first coreset, with no majestics and higher clouding its intent. Make a solid foundation for every single class to begin rebuilding anew with, that's the only way to fix the current unfair distribution of power in fab. Half the classes in the game have fractured design space that was attempted once, for limited only, and then promptly moved on from. If they make a well conceived core of class strategies and fully solidify their archetypes before moving on to hyping up the next they could undo their poor decisions and actually advance the game's design space.
I've been playing six years now and one thing is brutally apparent to me; this game has beautiful bones that make for a unique experience and all the potential in the world to grow, but the flesh and blood remains scattered and congealed on the floor, barely adhering to its own structure. LSS won't address this because of their grand leader's ego, sadly. He's utterly proud of the mess he's concocted, because look at how many people care about his game enough to travel the world to see it's expensive events. What he doesn't realize is that those fans understand its potential and await its improvement.
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>>97490683
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>>97491811
The actual card factories might, but the normie counterfitters on Aliexpress clearly have trouble keeping up. There are like 2-3 guys who can follow patterns and do the foiling along those decently, but textures are still beyond even them. Then the rest of them can't even do the pattern following foiling properly and constantly fuck it up.
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Effects:
>[Auto]
Automatic. The effect triggers when the conditions are met. >[Ignition/Action/Activation]
Activate the effect manually by paying the card's cost.
>[Reaction]
Activates when an effect is triggered or an action is performed.
>[Instant]
A quick effect that takes priority over other effects.
>[Equipment/Link]
Activates when the card is linked to another card.
>[Permanent]
The effect remains active until the card leaves the field.
>[Attack]
Activate the card's effect when it attacks. >[Discard]
Activate the effect when the card is discarded.
just some effects type for my game. I think some of the effects are the same as the others but I still want to keep them
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>>97493132
Surprised with all the effort put into mimicing the foil detail, they fail at something as simple as making the text have the same spacing/size/format as the original.
You can easily see the amount of words per row not match.
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I recently finished building my Teemo Rifbound deck. I am also looking forward to playing the set-2 starter-decks versus each other (which I have pre-ordered).
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>>97491137
>ALL NEW SET
>FINALLY DESIGNED TO SUPPORT CONSTRUCTED FORMATS!!
They said the quiet part out loud. LSS has never designed anything in earnest to "support constructed" until now, and it shows. Jesus, James; what the hell were you thinking?
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>>97493132
Looks good enough imo. I bet that the guy doing proxies could make the card 100% equal but keeps doing them lacking is some areas just to be able to deny accountability (at counterfeiting).
In that Five Elders it is clear the guy made sure to write the card out on photoshop and made sure to have the text box be shorter and write the text differently (last part).
As for texture the guy could achieve texture by making layers of varnish.
Why the guy makes sure he doesn't make the exact same text ? It is the same principle as Warhammer wikis. The wikis do have the abilities and warscrolls that players would have to buy books to have access. Those wikis have a bit deniability because they write the ability with other terms and slight off phrases. (and yes, games workshop would 100% sue them otherwise).
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>>97493132
Try blacklotus' cards
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>>97490340
Check out red blue ace too, he’s a pretty standard/competitive deck with big bodies and lots of card draw. Shanks is the cheaper/less meta version which has a starter deck. Blue Kuzan is also nice and pretty competitive, nothing too fancy just a bunch of solid cards and lots of card draw/filtering. Kuzan is getting a new starter deck eventually
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>>97493835
These proxies were made by chinks on Aliexpress. They cannot be sue by any western company, so they don't give a fuck in a way that they'd make their products non-passable on purpose. Imo it's mostly about what kind of equipment they have access to and how well they can use it. They are trying their best though, there's clearly a demand for their services that westerners are legally not allowed to provide. Regular non-foil cards ordered from them are usually a safe bet though, but make to get photos of the cards first.
I posted two silly examples of OP cards in the previous thread. >>97460815 >>97462542
What I'd love to get is a well angled photo of an unsleeved real version of OP12-119 Kuma to compare it with what the chinky boys are selling there. I couldn't find a good enough picture of the real one.
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How do you search for a seller on Aliexpress? Can you link it to me without fully doxxing everybody you've ever known in your whole life with a thousand character long tracker link?
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>They are trying their best though, there's clearly a demand for their services that westerners are legally not allowed to provide.
Not for long it would seem:
https://notmpc.com/
Not sure how long they'll be able to get away with it, but it seems more and more people in the west are trying to get in on the proxy game.
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>1103702114
On my end that store is called "Pokemon Proxy Cards Store (Trader)", not Blacklotus. I might have just irrecoverably doxxed myself with that info though, it's over.
As far as his cards are concerned, I remain unimpressed.
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>>97494614
>Real tournaments won't allow them, and if any locals do or if I'm playing casually I'm rolling up with handwritten paper in a sleeve.
At lest for me, it's a matter of the physical feedback when I'm playing with "real" cards and only having to pay pennies to make any deck I want for the most part. Other people have told me that they just want the shiny cards without having to play $200+ for a playset (I'm looking at you, Digimon). I realize that if you're not all that worried about playing in tournaments and you have a cool shop that doesn't mind, go wild. One problem that will pop up more and more is people trying to sell their proxy stuff.
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Oh yeah. FAB has plenty of "rare" (they call them majestic) and "legendary" (very hard to pull rare) that are just plain old non-foil cards that are well over $50. Afaik Magic is full of those too, altough I know very little about Magic.
Usually it's the japanese games that are ahead of the curve in this regard, although the YugiOh cards seem to be easily fakable too at first glance. But again, I'm not into that game either.
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I'm going to try actually co-ordinating an /acg/ card game. For now we'll decide on the core rules. I'll propose a portion of the game and for the next ~24 hours anons can post suggestions for how it should work. Then after gathering suggestions, I'll make a poll for anons to vote on. Top 2 will then be put in a final poll. After that we'll move on to another mechanic. Once we have some core rules down we can start with making some cards.
We'll start broad with What kind of game are we making?
Wizard Duel (MTG, Yugioh, DM, Bandai games, Lorcana, etc.)
Fighting Game (FaB, UFS, MM NT Warrior)
Creature Battler (Pokemon, Yu Yu Hakusho, SW:Destiny)
Area Control (WH:40K Conquest, RiftBound)
Wizard Duel is a game where you summon creatures that can fight for you, generally aiming to deal enough damage to your opponent to win.
Fighting Game is a game where you have a card that represents your character and cards are actions they can take.
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Cont.
Creature Battler is a game where you and your opponent have creatures and the aim is to defeat your opponent's creatures. They can be static (like SW:Destiny) or you can play them as the game progresses (Pokemon/Hololive)
Area Control is a game where rather than fighting in an abstract space, there are specific zones your are trying to control.
If anyone has any more suggestions please reply to this post or the previous one and I will add them to the list. If anyone has any refinements to the categories let me know.
I will post a poll with all suggestions tomorrow.
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>>97494836
I'd put Lorcana and Keyforge in Wizard Duel because there's no functional difference between dealing damage and scoring points.
I'll add Steal the Secret / Protect the Secret to the list.
Steal/Protect the secret is an asymmetric game where one player is setting up defenses and the other player has to penetrate them to obtain points.
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>>97494783
Wizard Duel for me.
>>97493254
>I think some of the effects are the same as the others but I still want to keep them
Don't do this. Reaction, Attack and Discard are just trigger effects. Honestly, I think you just like the idea of coming up with a game more than actually making a game.
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>>97494783
I was checking berserk tcg and I want to make/see a area control card game (I want something that plays 100% with the cards and not a semi tabletop board game)
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Today we're just gathering ideas, tomorrow we'll put it to the vote.
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can I suggest my >>97493254 to be made or not?
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>>97493254
I have four effect types in my game.
Activate
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Counter
Permanent.
I then have sub-types for some (Activate:Main/Activate:Battle), but everything is one of those four types. I also have keywords for common triggers, but they are still triggered abilities and keywords for abilities that are used in other zones.
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Gundambros, why does my opponent always have six perfectly placed burst cards in their shields but I never get anything useful? Why are my bases and pilots always the last cards of my deck? Why does chance fucking hate me but love my enemy?
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>Gundambros, why does my opponent always have six perfectly placed burst cards in their shields but I never get anything useful?
add useful burst cards
>Why are my bases and pilots always the last cards of my deck?
add more pilots and bases in your deck
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>>97496089
I was joking around sorry anon I can't help you need good luck.
do you know what (cb) means in gundam tcg?
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There's no dedicated Digimon thread anymore? Wow.
Anyway does anyone have a Zudomon deck? Unironically asking for a friend who wants to get into the game
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>>97496145
ohhh yeah I see now, I'm dumb stupid. thank you very much anoni
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>>97494514
Chinese guys are being arrested all the time for counterfeit and piracy. Most manga-anime sites are being hosted in china or are own by chinese people.
And yes, making sure something is not 100% equal is a way to dismiss a bit of ill intent on courts.
How they could make the proxies look like real cards (beside using the actual card photo-image instead of writing its text) ? They could apply spray varnish with molds for where the card should be textured... It is not rocket science to make things look legit and they won't make $2 cards look like legitimate $50 cards unless they are the ones trying to sell the fake ones as the real deal.
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>>97494783
Yeah I'd add >>97494836, the latter especially since I think there is a distinction between Area Control and 'lane' battlers
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>>97496203
I'd still argue a generalized Race is different than Wizard. Something like Res Arcana, even RftG are ACG adjacent enough I think that Keyforge/Lorcana could fit with. Don't think anyone will pick them (let alone design them, it's really fucking hard), but I guess for fairness could add.
But now that I think about it, if Secret Shit can be generalized with lane battlers that it falls into Area Control as well. Anything where zones have importance - be it an amorphous thing or a fixed number of lanes.
To that end maybe Grid Shitters as the other genre for the Sorcery shills
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>>97496306
I've got that on the list >>97494872. But I'm looking for a better description if you've got one.
What do you mean by "Lane Battlers"? Something like AT: Card Wars?
I've been thinking and there's not really any genre to represent .hack, Pixel tactics or Warlord. Maybe Formation Fighter could be a grouping for the latter two? A game where you have an army and placement is important.
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>>97496612
It needs more marketing
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>>97484126
Alice cluster starter decks are simple and easily available, but not representative of the games current power/complexity level.
If you want something more modern you can try to find the most recent Evil Cluster starter decks though the prices are kinda shit.
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Since the games often involve building up a board first before doing a thing, maybe Board Builder? The steal/protect part is more the main game mechanic than it is a genre of card games I think, especially with how few those types of games are made
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>>97496612
Vtuber Card game feels like a tough sell to the west where it has to fight the stigma of both anime and e-girl. While we're on the subject of Holoka, Bushiroad is trying to fuck Cover here.
>Info about EN Set 6 leaks out
>In JP Chihaya, Niko, Su, and Vivi were only in Starter Decks, so them being in the member list implies we're not getting their decks in Global
>If this comes to pass EN will go three whole sets without a new Starter deck since we already know we aren't getting the Kanata and Marine Starter Decks and the new cards from those will be merged into the set
This sucks because those Start Decks are the first ones to have unique Oshi cards since the SorAZ starter and even just buying one got you a decent deck out the box. Bushi better fix this now because if they try this with the Advent and Justice Starter decks they are going to catch hellfire for it.
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IT'S HAPPENING
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The problem I have with Board Builder is that you build boards in a lot of card games. The key thing that sets Netrunner & Hub world apart is that you set up defences and try and penetrate them. Since both rely heavily on hidden information I thought of Steal/protect the secret.
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Actually nevermind I just read what he said and it doesn't sound like it could be DM at all.
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>>97497096
Isn't categorizing the main ways of playing card games (wizard duel, creature battle etc.) to help more easily break them down into their separate pieces and voting on them later the point? I'm assuming we will narrow down the game mechanics at a later time, the steal/protect part can be done then. Board Builder in particular can be for games that specifically need you to get your entire board to a certain point before you can win, a different thing from the more tactical "I play A which buffs B to let me play C and protect it with D" other more direct battler games do
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As a side, there's no harm in mixing together the bigger categories either. For example Battle Spirits would primarily be under Wizard Duel, but thanks to how it has cards that stay semi-permanently on the board, and the more cards of a certain color you have the more of a discount you get to play cards with, it has a little bit of Board Building as well
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>>97497144
The main point was to categorize games into all their distinct styles so we can have some kind of coherent framework to start from. My problem with board builder is that it is too vague and has heavy overlap with the other genres so it's not really its own distinct category.
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No-can-duista
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>>97479999
I wanna start playing One Piece because my frens got into it. Am I a bitch if I show up with an Imu deck? Is it considered too overpowered and unfair? SOMEHOW it's also the cheapest tiered deck by a mile from what I'm watching, no clue how the cheapest deck is also at the top of the tier list.
I have it confirmed the whole group is running doflamingo, crocodile, boa and Jinbei.
Personally I wanted Crocodile but I also like Imu and it's 1/3rd the price. Would we have good duels or will I stomp them? I stopped playing Yugioh because I hated Meta stomps
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>>97496397
nta but lane battlers refers to the subset of creature games where you send them to one of a few "lanes" or "locations" (most often 3 or 5) and get points for winning those each round. solforge fusion is a tcg that does it, but so do a bunch of the close cousins from /bgg/ like Omen.
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>>97497750
Either move out or lay your foot down on this. They’re throwing out money, how would they like it if you started throwing their shit out? Honestly, you should probably just away from shit people like that.
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>this comes out in three colors
wtf Katsu will be great now
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>>97497750
explain to them its money and tell them >>97497892 this. if they throw your cards, throw their shits too
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>>97497384
Go with it, Imu's good for learning and as you said it's really cheap to build.
Imu is one of the top decks right now, but unless your friends run only removal decks (which Imu hard walls), it shouldn't be too unbalanced.
You can then move on to other decks later on.
>no clue how the cheapest deck is also at the top of the tier list
It's because 99% of the deck is just common and basic rare cards, the only midly rare card the deck runs is this one.
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>>97497750
i was doing doordash to pay for my fab cards before i quit, get your ass off the couch, it's not that hard to interact with people you might only see once in your life
on second thought, yeah, you're based and NEET masterrace and your parents should be buying your cards by the case smugrichpepe.jpg
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the point isn't categorizing every possible type of game, right? it's just finding a good combination of theme and "how do you win?" the rest flows from that.
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>they want to make a card game after they couldnt eve organize playing wixoss
>they want to make a card game after posters ITT proved they cba to even look at the glossary from any tcg rulebook
>they want to make a card game but can't even differentiate a lane battler from an area control game from a Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides
Not looking great gentlemen.
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>>97497098
are they that afraid of bringing out 2nd most tried and true moneymaker that they have to pull an entirely new card game out of their ass? does alienating their mtg audience really matter that much when they’re dwarfed completely by the western jp tcg audience?
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>>97498790
Hasn't stopped them from trying pony again and again.
>>97498709
I voted to play it on account of someone else organising it. It's one thing to say you'll bring snacks to a dinner and another to be asked to host it. I'd still like to do something like that but it's also evident we need something easily simulated and tracked, I feel. Doesn't Sorcery have its own simulator? Is that good?
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Polar bears always make think of this album.
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Warlord sisters, it is happening!
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>>97499421
It is 2 cards glued together...
Right side is one of the first Medusan lords
(boss cards. There are only a few prints of each and there is only one oficial player for each and they play with them on events. If the player loses it has to give the card, but it is really hard to lose.)
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And left side is the "past self" of the character. The 20th aniversary booster had 6 warlords "from the past" that were destined to become a medusanlord (BBEGs)
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oh ok thanks haha
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Poll is up!
https://poal.me/9ibrhr
Wizard Duel is a game where you summon creatures that can fight for you, generally aiming to deal enough damage to your opponent to win.
Fighting Game is a game where you have a card that represents your character and cards are actions they can take.
Creature Battler is a game where you and your opponent have creatures and the aim is to defeat your opponent's creatures. They can be static (like SW:Destiny) or you can play them as the game progresses (Pokemon/Hololive)
Area Control is a game where rather than fighting in an abstract space, there are specific zones your are trying to control.
Steal/Protect the secret is a game where one player players set up defences and their opponent attempts to penetrate them. Can be Symmetric or asymmetric.
Formation Fighter is a game where a core aspect is the placement of units and maneuvering them.
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>>97498099
I ended up ordering a Sanji blue/purple deck because he's my favorite, I hope it's still competitive.
Got it for like $29 and Imu's was $47, still wildly cheaper than anything I could enjoy in Yugioh, I dig these prices. To be fair they're probably anomalies, other decks like Crocodile do require x4 of an expensive main card, but these are mostly Commons
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This is the best majestic they could come up with to "support" them. Further proof this company hates rangers. It doesn't even block 3. Waste of a majestic slot.
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>>97499426
Not really, Imu has a pretty straightforward plan: filter through your deck as quickly as possible to get the 5 individual Elders in your trash, then as soon as you get to 10 Don, you drop 10c Five Elders to bring all of them from the trash at once, and repeat every turn after.
Obviously a person with more experience will achieve these goals better, be better at filtering and defending, but you don't need too much matchup knowledge since the 10c Elder drop is so strong.
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>>97500337
Good choice, there's a new Reiju card coming up that will really super charge the deck too, it allows you to straight up play any event from the trash. Main issue for the deck is Red Roc getting rotated out, but that's a problem for basically any blue deck, hopefully they print some kind of replacement. Have fun.
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>>97500825
That's the price to pay for cheap Meta decks, but nearly every card there has alternate art with more effort, even the low cost ones. Or you mean the actual card frame / structure?
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>>97500991
More alternate arts. I don't think this is much different from Pokémon and Digimon art, ESPECIALLY the Digimon ones. They vary a lot in styles and quality, some are hyperrealistic paintings and stuff.
I expected much worse honestly, I thought it'd just be anime screenshots like Dragon Ball. There's a lot of Manga pages but that's better than anime screenshots.
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>I thought it'd just be anime screenshots
The first few sets had those and they were awful, but luckily Bandai heard feedback and nowadays they use custom artwork for every character card.
Events, which is what the Sanji deck mostly uses, still use manga panels though.
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>>97501176
It got picked up by Jasco Games, they bought a ton of anime licences, they had Godzilla, Turtles and Star Trek, and they eventually rebranded as Universus. Game is in a zombie state but it's still getting printed. Gaze upon it and weep.
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>t. nogames faggot
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>y-you probably don't even play the game
if XP still mattered for nationals you'd see me invited there every year
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>>97501031
The most insulting thing about those anime screenshots was how low effort they were. With literally every single one of them they could've found a better screenshot of those characters from the exact same episodes that would've looked way better than what they picked. But nope, they just pulled up random episodes and went through the timeline randomly until they got the characters that they were looking for.
Sure, the anime is more often than not irredeemable garbage, but the game devs didn't even bother to grab the better parts from that source material. They just hastly threw shit together that they could demo to the BamCo leaderboard boomers.
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It's dead in spirit, it hasn't been about fighting games since 2017ish and they've messed with the mechanics. Reversal is gone, Multiple went with it, there's so much anti Stun around that Stun might as well be gone. And they added a whole new card type too. Backups are basically planeswalkers but shit. The game is in a sad fucking state and it's far from what it was when it was good.
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>hahahahaha
Why even bother posting anymore dipshit no one cares. Screenshot your talishar deck filled with goodies no one gives a fuck.
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>face reality
It's so sad how deaf and dumb you are, truly. Like I said before no one cares about you whining, go ahead and write up another 1000 word essay for the whole class about how Brian, James White, and LSS all hate you for playing Ranger. I truly don't care and despise your ilk for sticking around to whine despite spending 0$, 0h played, and 0 use of anyone other than as a fucking punching bag.
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This is probably the same retard who thinks you need to have your hero and equipment in the same sleeves as your deck lmao why even bother
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Your main issue is getting to turn 7 so the aggro decks don't just kick you in the balls. So you'll need the lv2 0 Gundam and the lv3 Kyrios to keep you alive. Run Allelujah to smash over the aggro pieces and drop a base if need be to force them to kill themselves. Once you get to lv4, Lockon/Dynames into their most dangerous dude and keep hitting them. You've got lv3 Virtue to block with in an emergency and you can Armed Intervention if you're stuck. Against blockers, stick with the Kyrios/Allelujah Dynames/Lockon play, it bulldozes all the playable blockers outside of a Sword Strike without getting damaged. Dynames is your best friend here, just run it into anything it can kill and not die in the process with. The real problem is the Trans Am has no way of actually getting through a defensive line so don't even think of playing it until oppo is wide open, it's delicate and 5HP will not survive combat with a decent blocker
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>>97501386
No. Perona has a lot of cards but they're all very much not sexualized.
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https://onepiece.limitlesstcg.com/cards?q=perona
Enjoy
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ok I see thank you very much anoni.
tough deck, tough deck..
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I'm looking for a new tcg to play. My background is mostly Yugioh and Hearthstone. I'm open to anything as long as it's fun and at least popular enough for me to be able to find some locals. Was considering Grand Archive, One Piece, and Union Arena mainly because of art but again I'm open to anything.
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>for me to be able to find some locals
Look into what people at your locals play first, then decide what to pick. A game can be popular, and you may not find a scene near you.
>Grand Archive
Never played it, but the art makes me want to
>One Piece
I like it
>Union Arena
I dislike how its system works and how some arts are just a screenshot
>I'm open to anythingPokemon is fun and extremely cheap butyou should first ask what people play at the locals near you
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>is this a good sign for a tcg?
If this is a persistent trend across multiple sellers, then not at all. If you're seeing this at this particular seller, then there can be lots of explanations for why the product was discounted so drastically.
Seems like a good deal regardless.
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Anyone plays riftbound here?
rules question:
Let's say you have a 2 might unit on a BF and a hidden card there and pass.
In my turn I move there with a also 2 might unit. The dude said "I let combat resolve and after I reveal the hidden card and play it". It was a unit he didn't want involved in combat I guess.
I'm a noob and the guy plays since launch so I didn't say anything but I could swear I saw a video that said you can't do this? Once combat resolves if they both trade he shouldn't be able to do it?
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>>97501605
Nta, but I tried gundam and it was the most "okay" game I've ever played. If you like the art you might enjoy it, but I wouldn't expect too much from it mechanically.
Though if you liked HS you might enjoy the combat more than I did. Same with the new Star Wars game.
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>Do you have any experience with the Gundam tcg?
My only experience with Gundam was playing with the beta decks Bandai gave lgs for free.
I liked the game system, but the card pool isn't interesting imo (I only followed it until the second set). Maybe that will change in the future if the game doesn't die.
Also, it suffers from the same issue as pokemon, too many dice.
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Opinions I've heard are that it's very just okay but very popular so that's why people play it. Meta was also apparently fucked for a bit but I'm hearing the new set fixed it. As >>97501654 says it is very similar to HS, chiefly in its resource system (literally the same +1 each turn and literally a coin going second). Conversely if you're coming from YG/HS you'd probably hate Pokémon having MtG's land issues but maybe worse, but it is also really cheap to get into if you don't want bling and you can check the online simulator for it to get a taste.
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>>97501728
There's a period of time within the rules where the Contested state isn't removed from the battlefield, specifically in place for Deathknell triggers.
During that timeframe, the controller of the battlefield still controls it, there is still a defender and there is still an attacker, even if there are no units present.
Rules also state that you are allowed to respond to trigger effects like those.
So in that moment, the player with the Hidden card can respond to the effect of the Deathknell during the period of time in which the conquer (or lack thereof) hasn't happened yet. If that Hidden card (or something with Reaction like Shen) is a unit, then it can occupy that space and be there.
It's a fucky ruling mess because it is what it is.
You can technically clear the battlefield of units, only for Shen or a Hidden unit to pop up and still "defend" the battlefield. If the attacker still has units it just triggers a new showdown.
So imagine this scenario
>Player A is on the battlefield with a 2 Might unit with a Deathknell.
>Player B moves their 3 Might unit to the battlefield.
>Combat occurs, the 3 Might unit wins and the 2 Might unit dies
>During the time in which the Deathknell is on the Chain, Player A casts Shen to the battlefield. This is legal because they still control the battlefield until that Deathknell Chain resolves.
>The Deathknell resolves
>Game checks what is going on, sees a Shen vs a 3 Might unit and says "oh shit showdown time"
>Combat occurs, 5 Might Shen vs 3 Might unit, Shen wins
This above scenario is kind of pointless since Shen could've been played during the prior combat saving both units, but it is a legal scenario that is allowed to occur because of the Deathknell.
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>>97501780
Another thing I didn't make clear, if you do the hypothetical Shen play as a defender, you ARE still the defender in that scenario. It's still a combat performed as a result of the opponent moving in to attack, its just like a Part 2 to the combat
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>>97501786
got it thanks
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>>97501695
Yeah but that's a developmental result of an attempt to combat the fundamental design, and said design is even worse (discard energy Vs keeping lands around). The fact that the game compensated for it with cards isn't necessarily good.
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>>97501501
>$10 booster boxes
SO IT HAPPENED
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>>97500528
>3 value up front on offense
>2 value up front on defense with a conditional 1 extra value
>only in red
>this somehow makes it majestic
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>>97502413
Never mind bruh WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ART IT'S SO WOKE IT LOOPS BACK INTO BEING RACIST
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>>97502556
Some of the art is actually nice but the first 2 sets are just so weird..
This is a set 3 card and it's not on the site so I guess I will empty my cart
I mean $40 for 2 booster boxes and 2 sets of the starter decks including shipping is nice but I don't like a majority of the card art in either set lmao
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>>97502820
Wizard Duels can have cute animals.
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>>97502820
The genre doesn't really determine the aesthetics. We can make any genre full of hot girls, cute animals and cute animal girls.
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>>97500528
In this card defense:
While on paper this sucks it might be a worthwhile sidedeck.
In an unplayed format, this card can be used to destroyed big auras like enigmas.
In normal game it might be used to block out the elemental auras like channel or destroy a malefic against runeblades
Problems:
Enigma is LL and noone plays LL.
Channel Millenium Tree won't allow you to block and those user rarely play more then 2 auras.
So to summarize:
Unusable against most.
Shit against most runeblades unless you hit a malefic incantation.
Meh against elemental (rarely 2 auras)
Okayish against Vynnset or Viserai.
Okayish against Fang
Useable against Illusionist
Excellent against Enigma
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You guys trying to make new games should play Doomtown (doesn't matter if og or reloaded).
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>bandai doing a short print of a set that includes support for almost every deck released so far
why are they like this
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>>97503883
man just likes big tits and skimpy outfits, i respect it
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>>97503713
>Doomtown
I could have sworn they were making a new edition but I suppose it's just a new boxed set for the year. Alas maybe I'll see some of you guys at the Arizona meetup in october for the 30th
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>>97503761
-og is harder (and ccg model) to find and has more iconic stuff
-reloaded is rerelease by another companny, almost the same game. It is lcg based but the factions are not as cool or memorable as in the original.
Reloaded is about to release a new coreset box i think(or has released, idk i don't follow them much)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BThMuccCvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A7jLzKlFk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx-HyZgdTn4
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>>97505166
Shame I guess not everyone has the infinite well of mommy's money to go to every event after all.
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>>97501455
I'm hoping the perona sp ends up "only" at most 800 so I can just swap/sell my rayleigh manga for it
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>>97503862
This set should be reprinted to the ground just to fuck scalpers. If Bandai doesn't have enough printers, it should keep reprinting this set until the market is saturated with it.
Yes, I know this won't happen
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>>97503883
Oda is based, he literally shared a tutorial on how to draw women like he does.