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"Who are you?" edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97472513

>TQ
Why so many new legends with no character or story?
+Showing all 419 replies.
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I was about to make the thread. oh well. Here is my TQ
>What is your favorite parachute set? https://www.wargamer.com/magic-the-gathering/investor-lawsuit-cash-cow

For me it's Innistrad remastered.
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>pro tour was won by a literal who deck built around a 100 year old card that's about to rotate out
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>97485368
>retarded picture
>retarded option
>retarded poster
Don't you have some /pol/ thread to shit into?
>>97485323
>TQ
It's cheaper this way. (Also, this way it's easier for the legend to become a self-insert for your average C"mmander player.}
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What's the best budget deck you've ever built (real formats, not commander crap)?
I had a standard deck in the Kaladesh era which was essentially a proto-affinity deck to get quick Metalwork Colossi out and duplicated. Kinda made me love Artifact decks ever since.
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>>97485646
Modern infect about 10 years ago. 50 dollars for a deck that won me a local tournament.
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>>97485646
a legacy mono black reanimator list back in 2020, it was like 30 tix on magic online
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>>97485646
I used to play "4-player 60-card, no banlist / kitchen-table" format with friends from work. I made a budget mono-white deck that had a x4 of Light Paws as the focal point of the deck. I intended to enchant Light Paws with 'Light of Promise' & 'Face of Divinity' to make a lifelink Light paws that gets +1/+1 counters when it connects.

I kind of miss my old 4-player 60 card group, and I regret that I insisted we play Commander instead. After some time, I moved on to other TCGs, but that playgroup decided "yeah Magic sucks, but I am too invested to learn another game, and I'm an old dog and I can't learn new tricks", so I had to move on.
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>>97485981
Foxxu tiddies
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>>97485368
QRD?
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Lorwyn status?
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I wish this card had a functional reprint besides Reckless Impulse so I could play 8 Impulse in Storm without having Wrenn or gay nu-Phyrexian invasion flavor
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>>97486219
Fuck
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>>97486219
>>97486220
what about the opera card?
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>>97486185
people mad because spiderman card
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>>97486192
Elf Foot Goddess thicc & booba
Elementals surprisingly effective
Decent number of evergreen cards
Not enough Giants for tribal & no Giant booba
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>>97486238
It only lasts until your next end step not the next-next endstep, so it's worse.
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>>97486284
it's an instant, just cast it on your opponent's turn
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>>97486286
bruh you might want to lurk more
cringe
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>>97486300
>play it on your turn if you're desperate for an answer
>keeping mana open to play it on your opponent's turn, letting you bluff or choose removal according to what your opponent plays otherwise.
>4 damange/combat trick if you need it
what's wrong with it?
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>>97486277
>no Giant booba
post boobanon's masterpiece
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>>97486347
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>>97486339
hint: the deck isn't called Desperate Answers
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>>97486387
now this is art worth proxiing for
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>>97486391
legit suspect this anon might be the original artist with how conspicuously placed the bundle of animals was and how high quality the edit is
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>>97486339
Having cards for 2 turns is better than having cards for 1 turn. Also Opera is powercrept by BLACKED Spiderman which is the same thing for 1 mana or a better combat trick.
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>>97486402
>sorcery
>combat trick
anon...
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>>97486402
wouldn't know, I don't play Spiderman cards
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>>97486433
You are missing out, Miles Morales is copies 9 and 10 of Reckless Impulse in Storm (the most chad deck)
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>>97485646
I've been rocking a 5 tix mindcrank deck in modern, its not very good but then again neither are modern players
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>>97486477
>Storm (the most chad deck)
When did chad start wearing a dress and having panic attacks?
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>>97486192
Set is pretty good, unfortunately I don't think it'll make my stupid tribal deck viable even against weaker decks. Aside from that, I can't stop singing that fucking trailer song. I know 95% of the words by memory.
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>>97486477
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In a format where the top deck is literally a MH3 slop pile, Storm is the hero we deserve.
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>>97486586
*Amulet Titan
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>>97486390
if you're nutting, it's functionally indistinguishable
if you're not nutting, you can afford to play it on your opponent's turn
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>>97486192
It's the set that made me start pulling away from mtg, as it turns out making your packs look like this is all it took for me to break the spell. Even if it is just the collector's edition.
It's just not a cool game anymore.
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>>97486663
This is infinitely cooler than Aetherdrift, Strixhaven, Spiderman...
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>>97486663
The things I would do to that faerie on the right...
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>>97486185
Combo around a Duskmourn jank won the PT
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Unban Birthing Pod
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>>97486744
deserved or won off opponent's bricking?
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i wish mobilize tokens had haste
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>>97486825
Why?
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>>97486565
ONE LIGHT
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Is time to unban Winota in Pioneer WotC, Cutter is worse.
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>>97486915
for when you trigger multiple combats
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>>97486942
fingers crossed for next week brother
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>>97486663
Having Marvel slop on boosters isn’t a breaking point for you, but a faerie in a fantasy setting is?
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>>97486982
is crazy right? but pigs are like that.
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>>97486940
ONE DARK
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>>97486663
this and bloomburrow are unironically the most aesthetically fitting sets in years
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>>97487096
Duskmourn monsters were kino too... I would love blocks of those sets.
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Is there any way this kind of idea could work
I think you have the problem that 4-5 lands would be too hard to find on mulligan and mono green has no reanimation / way to discard from instant/sorceries even if you find aurora
is there some fine tuning that could produce a deck that both cheats out aurora and cuts lands to the point it wins ohko
obviously in other formats you have landless mana bases due to mdfcs
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maybe Standard isn't so bad
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>>97486982
It's 100% part of the problem, I really avoided that shit though so this just hits me harder
>>97487096
Bloomburrow was cool looking this isn't
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>>97487288
>20 islands
>zero waterbending scrolls
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>>97487288
>Playing that much ATLA
>Isn't so bad, bros!!!
Yeah...... No.
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>>97487301
>Bloomburrow was cool looking this isn't
It's basically the same thing but anthro bug faeries with a female fantasy art style and it's not even cringe female fantasy it's perfectly reasonable and high-quality art as well.
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Reminder that they printed a spell that makes TWO skeletons for 3 mana that works with corpses of the lost and it gets around boardwipes
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>>97487306
dude, do you ever wonder why all these places would rather have trannies than you? It's not a jewish conspiracy, it's just that they're less of an asshole to the people around them than you are.

>>97487288
god I fucking hate these product tie-ins. It feels fucking insulting
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Is this card broken?

Squirrel Beacon, {G}{G}
Instant

You may cast Squirrel Beacon while searching your library.

Create two 1/1 Squirrel tokens.
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>>97487443
No because you can't actually cast it from your library with that wording.

>While you’re searching your library, you may cast this card from your library.

still probably not
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>>97487559
>>97487443

Maybe this is more balanced and official sounding:

[CARDNAME], GG
Instant

If you would search your library, you may instead reveal [CARDNAME] from your library and put it into your hand. If you do, shuffle.

Create two 1/1 Squirrel tokens.
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>>97487443
make it a sorcery that summons 2 Wurm tokens instead
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how about my card design

Confused Goblin Guide {R}
Creature - Goblin Scout (Rare)
Flash, haste
You may only cast this creature while searching your library. (But that doesn't let you cast it from your library)
2/2
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>>97487588

Contemplative Goblin, {R}
Creature - Goblin

Flash, Haste

You may only cast this creature if a library was searched three or more times this turn.

3/2
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>>97487443
if it's a common then yeah
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I've been working on a "can't cast turn drawn" reconciling hands as a hidden zone. How's this?

Stunted Studies, {2}{U}{U}

Enchantment


As Stunted Studies enters, choose a player. While Stunted Studies is in play, whenever the chosen player draws a card, they must reveal it. Cards revealed this way cannot be cast on the turn they are drawn.
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>>97487817
how will you know I'm playing fair if I cast one anyway? you'd think I have a second one but I don't need to show my card again
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>>97487893
honor system
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I cant stop cooking Pauper decks. When I am on lunch break, I add cards to my cart for TCG player. When I wake up I make another list in Moxfield. When I go to sleep, I scroll PauperRec for inspiration.
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>>97488144
everybody falls in and out of love with Magic but those short periods where you're obsessed with some part of it really do crazy things to your brain chemistry.
no wonder it's so hard to actually escape this game.
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>>97487443
Casting from your library is a clusterfuck and Panglacial Wurm was a mistake
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>>97487654
Constipated Goblin, {R}
Creature - Goblin
Haste.
This creature doesn’t untap during your untap step.
"Just give me a few minutes"
3/2
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>>97488257
My LGS actually had >20 people show up 2 weeks in a row for Pauper. People pretty much run meta decks. The most meme deck out there was a guy trying to run Tireless Tribe combo which is """meta""" but IMO its a C tier deck.
I hear people say that Pauper is a semi-solved format where new cards dont see much play because sets like Modern Horizons (Allah forgive me for uttering its name) dominate because MH sets have more power than anything standard legal.
Ive decided Im going to run a revolving door of rogue decks and Im going to shatter the meta and make people rue the day they ever encountered cards that currently they dont even know about.
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Sludge
Land
Sludge enters the battlefield tapped with a stun counter on it
You may play Sludge on your turn as an additional land drop.
{T}: Add {C}
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UNBAN NEMESIS
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>>97488363
I recently found out that my that whenever WotC sponsors big Standard tournaments with prizes (Store Championship?) my LGS runs it as a Pauper tournament instead and just pretends to WotC that it was Standard.
apparently most people play homebrew jank and it's the same ~4 people winning all of them with meta blue decks.
anyways, going to finish pauper Elves to come snipe 1st place next time.
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>>97488470
>my LGS runs it as a Pauper tournament instead and just pretends to WotC that it was Standard.
Now THIS is based.
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>>97488470
>anyways, going to finish pauper Elves to come snipe 1st place next time.
I net decked an Elves list and ran it a couple weeks ago. Elves is very sturdy. I dont know if its top top tier, but it must be close. The list I ran has only 12 lands. It relies on Generous Ent and Sagu to find them, and runs 4x Winding Way and 4x the 3 cmc one to draw cards. I think the main weakness of elves is cards like Tectonic Hazard which can cripple your mana generation and gain card advantage against you. Otherwise, I feel like elves has a good matchup into most things. Also for some reason people dont seem to realize that Tec Hazard is a busted card and totally main deck able.
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Goblin Nemesis {R}
Creature - Goblin Spirit
Haste
Whenever this creature is dealt damage, it deals that much damage to any other target. If a player is dealt damage this way, creatures they control can't block goblins for the rest of the game.
1/1
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Please help me find this card, /tg/ ...
It was a flavor named card that I wrote down. I believe the name was Jenova, Planet's Parasite and it had pic related as the art, in the style of the Final Fantasy: Through the Ages set.
I've tried searching for that set and any related art, flavor names, etc with no luck.
If it was a proxy that I saw, I can live with that but it was specifically a flavor name card (God help me for not writing the original card name) with pic related art
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>>97488579
?
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>>97488579
>open scryfall
>type in jenova
>first result

Mustve been lookin real hard
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>>97488640
Nah this nigga is lookin for skullclamp

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/355/skullclamp
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>>97487337
I just really like pastels, so I like this shit.
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>>97488590
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but it's not the normal Jenova. It was a reprint in the style of Final Fantasy: Through the Ages. They have a very specific style of frame I've never seen before, nor have I seen any proxies that look that way... It was also appealing/memorable because of the art I posted. I think the flavor name was Jenova, Planet's Parasite.
I just want to know if it was a real card, a proxy, a dream, or otherwise.
Thanks anyway, anon.
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>>97488579
It was a proxy
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>>97488363
> new cards dont see much play because sets like Modern Horizons (Allah forgive me for uttering its name) dominate because MH sets have more power than anything standard legal
In particular, Chrysalis and Tolarian Terror just set a very high bar for creatures. There isn't very good interaction against both of them, so outside of jund/grixis people have kind of been forgoing interaction and just vomiting the most busted shit on the board while ignoring the opponent: burn, elves, spy decks, black sac etc

>>97488500
Elves is notably good against the blue tempo decks so it should be great in anon's meta
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>>97488669
here are all (4) cards that show up

https://tagger.scryfall.com/tags/artwork/jenova
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>>97488500
I assume it's great but I'd run it either way, I started with Onslaught and always loved Elves.
Unfortunately all the MTGO lists run Avenging Hunter and there is no way I'm playing with fucking Initiative cards.
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>>97488695
>Chrysalis
If I could ban one card from Pauper it would probably be this one. A 4 mana effective 4/5 with reach which also ramps you 2 mana and has positive synergy with itself is extremely good. I think it makes RG automatically very strong. Splashing any 3rd color with it is fine. Obviously Jund Wildfire runs it and is tacitly BDIF. I think you could easily do a similar deck in Naya and run Salt Road Packbeast alongside Chrysalis since Chrysalis is an instant board state in a box. Temur could run the new convoke card to draw 3 with Chrysalis on board.
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If I'm building a Junpstart cube, is two "comes into play tapped" lands too much for each half-deck?
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>>97488695
>Tolarian Terror
I do think this is a bit overrated btw. This could be a hot take from me but I think any Pauper deck that is centered around the graveyard is fundamentally flawed because it crumples to Thraben Charm, Bojuka Bog, etc. Granted many opponents wont have the answer or maybe its in their sideboard, but having your whole strategy countered by GY hate feels really bad.
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>>97488923
You're talking as if the deck is some spy tier glass canon that folds to the hate. Anything other than t1 relic is just a speed bump to mono U terror, and that's on top of the sheer ability to just counter the GY hate. The best ways to deal with terror end up being edicts or just plain flooding the board with chump blockers. But of course, the decks that do that usually then have trouble dealing with wildfire or something else.
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>>97489023
I havent given mono U terror a fair shake. I had it in my Izzet midrange spell slinger list and I took it out because it felt way too easy to stop. Im sure its different in mono U but breh you arent countering Bojuka Bog. If black.dec throws out a Marauder and then drops a Bojuka Bog, I feel like U terrors is going straight to the shadow realm.
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I just learned that the game Sorcery unironically uses the exact same idea I had for fixing mana in MTG
>Standard 60 card deck split into two parts
>40 cards are for spells
>20 cards are for lands
>At the start of the game you draw 4 spells, 3 lands
>At the start of your turn you choose which deck to draw from
Sorcery is entirely built with this in mind and it seems to work EXTREMELY well.

Obviously MTG has been built with it's current system in mind and there's a million mechanics made throughout the years that only work with the one deck structure in mind but I still think it could work. Unironically gonna try and convince some guys at my LGS to try playing this way now that I know another TCG (which has been gaining a lot of popularity) has proven it can work and it fixes the biggest fundamental issue with MTG.
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>>97488695
Speaking of Chrysalis, isn't this thing actually kind of workable with all the MH eldrazi spawn shit? It's a pretty decent payoff.
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>>97489492
>troondrazi
Yuck
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>>97489509
Are you stupid?
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>>97489492
> dies to cast down
Ehhh it might be ok but I feel like there are better finishers.
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>>97486387
truly macnificent
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>>97489492
Once you hit 4 spawns wit the MH eldrazi, you already go infinite with better alternatives
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>>97489427
>>At the start of the game you draw 4 spells, 3 lands
Arena's bo1 handsmoother pretty much does this 90% of the time
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YOU VILL PAY MAX PRICE FOR THE PRODUCT
AND YOU VILL GET NOTHING EXTRA IN RETURN
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>>97489654
How many more things can do a single company to piss off their whole customerbase?
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>>97489654
Who cares? No one will stop consooming the slop.
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>>97489427
I mean, Force of Will does an even simpler form of this, and the only thing I can say against FoW is that it eventually reached YGO levels of power creep.
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>>97489654
>excellent art
Shit taste, this style needs to die in a car fire
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I disagree.
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>>97486942
>Is time to unban Winota in Pioneer WotC, Cutter is worse.
It's absolutely crazy how Cutter is not only worse than Winota, but FAR WORSE than Winota and is still alive in the format.

Approaching 50% meta share btw.
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>>97489654
This looks like when small independent creators will have a base price for their itch.io video game or tabletop game or whatever, but give people the option to pay more. What WOTC are forgetting is that this us something usually done by SMALL creators
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>>97489654
Add it to the war crimes doc.
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>>97489792
It's not the same because they are divided by tiers with limited supplies. So once the bots have scalped the lowest tiers, others are left with the highest tiers!
>WotC figured out they can make money off of scalpers by becoming the scalpers
Brilliant!
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>>97489797
The weirdest thing is they didn't actually sell out cheapest to most expensive. The second most expensive tier sold out second
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>>97488823
Typical jumpstart packs come with just one of the Thriving cycle, from what I remember. Increasing it to 2 should just smooth things out more.
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>>97485368
You mean in 11 months?
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Does anyone in your area play 2015modern or pre fire? Will MTG ever be good again?
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>>97490293
2015 Modern is big in Poland.
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>>97490293
>Will MTG ever be good again?
Look at this year and maybe you can answer your question yourself
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>>97490293
modern MTG sets are unironically much better now than they were in 2015
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Prepioneer no RL is a great format and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.
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>>97490293
Magic is dying in my area. They stopped running proxy legacy this month because of lack of interest. Only options are standard, limited and commander. Modern Horizons 2 was the death of magic the gathering.
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>>97490509
>Magic is dying in my area.
Anon, seriously, will you stop?
Think of Nebraska before you speak, next time.
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>>97490552
Well clearly he's not living in Nebraska. Use your brain. You're not using your brain.
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>>97490571
But there is a magic boom in Nebraska, so he should not care about Magic dying in his area.
The line is going up, anon.
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>Watch recent Goldfishcast
>"We're finally starting to see a few more Spider-Man cards in standard. Was the set actually stronger than we thou-"
>Crim: "NO GUYS C'MON YOU CAN'T SAY SPIDER-MAN IS A GOOD SET REMEMBER?!?"
Holy shit, he really was pissed because people were trashing the set. I thought you guys were exaggerating. Poor bastard...
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don't like it?
make your own card game
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holy crap the new cubecobra ui is awful
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>>97490602
the thing keeping me from doing that is that I would need to play more card games to not end up copying something that already exists by accident and that seems like it's gonna take so long
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>>97490602
I've always wanted to make my own board games and card games. The problem is that the 2020s just offer too many hobbies for anyone to keep track of as is. It's basically impossible to make a game anyone would want to play without throwing a ridiculous amount of cash into it or investing years worth of time, when most of the time you'll feel better off just indulging in older hobbies that either were good or used to be good. Maybe in the days where regional markets were a thing I could've had a good reason to try and compete, but 99.99% of all card game enthusiasts will only play a preestablished card game or a card game based on a property they already have a strong emotional investment in.
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>>97490602
And so. EDH2 was created.
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>>97490602
I rather play another like YuGi. I will not find Spiderman or Black Panther there.
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I don't like ygo mechanics though.
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>>97490742
unfortunately you won't find fun, either
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>>97490742
>I rather play another like YuGi.
always pajeet with these posts
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>>97490742
YGO has PSG players.
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>>97490742
Funny you mention spider-man, the creator of yugioh wrote for him too.
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>>97490797
Looks like Nosewater picture
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>>97490552
Why MLP was haha funny non legal garbage while spongebob it's legal. It's not fair.
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>>97490293
Every Sunday, the lgs close to my home hosts "Commander Club" at 1700. The edh players roll in, play one game, then take a break where they play on their phones and browse Reddit or bluesky
They don't want to talk with other people and only play on their phones. They don't want to play different Magic formats except Commander. They don't want to play against different players outside of their little polygamy group. These edh players live a wretched existance.
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>>97490872
Fuck sorry for you anon sounds dire
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Bought precons to try with the lads. Too much product, Sorcery is doing 1 set per year (for now)
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>>97486400
I'm flattered, but this is just raw Photoshop. The composition of the original gave an obvious way forward in terms of the edit. The stitched bag easily becomes a stitched shirt and well...the rest is clear.
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is pokemon tcg an alternative?
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>>97490933
No it's terrible.
The problem is that no matter how much you dislike Magic, the gameplay is fundamentally just 100x better, richer, more complex than every other TCG on the market.
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I still wish I could play duel masters
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>>97490293
Literally only one store runs even regular modern near me, and it's because no other store wants to deal with the players apparently. My previous LGS dropped the format because the players were apparently pretty damn toxic to each other and I think a fight broke out once. Naturally the LGS that hosts them now is known for scalping Pokémon releases and being mainly a hoster of Yugioh events. As for my current LGS, they run Standard, Commander, Pauper, and Draft (twice a week). I go to the Friday draft and play with those people. We usually have a pod, maybe 2, but the original regulars I rolled with at the other LGS started to disappear as UB started to seep into the game. Went from 14 weekly regulars for FNM to 5, and that's including me.
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>>97490945
pretty sure it's big in Japan now somehow. saw local tournaments with huge turnouts for it in Tokyo, although it skewed young and most players were definitely teenagers/children.
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>>97490933
lmao
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>All this dying Magic stories
B-b-but Nebraska... NEBRASKA IS FLOURISHING!!
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I hate her because she's a cheerleader
You hate her because she's a colored
We are not the same
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>>97491019
What if i told you i loved Duskmourn?
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>>97491023
Overall I like it, I just think the anachronisms bring it down. The short stories talk about survivors wearing patchwork armor and camouflage made from the house itself, and I wish those descriptions had made it to whatever document got handed off to the artists.
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>>97491023
it was a great set.
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>>97491019
I hate the flavor of this card. Being acrobatic is not the same thing as literally flying in the air like a bird.
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>>97491042
Most of Duskmourn's rooms have low ceilings, something with actual wings probably isn't getting much higher than a girl who's found her rhythm freerunning around monsters
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>>97491057
I think you're right. As stupid as the card is in the setting, the flavour is actually way above average for a draft common grizzly bear.
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say something nice about giga fling
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>>97491089
It's 5 mana and a sorcery, so bad that I don't feel the need to waste time on brewing for it.
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>>97491089
When you blight X, you may only put counters on ONE creature you control, right?
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>>97491089
that's some rad art, I haven't see--holy fuck they got Drew Tucker back??
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>>97487306
I haven't seen the video, but I'm pretty confident he doesn't claim white being weaker than all the other colors is a good thing
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>>97491089
Probably not playable in standard but an otherwise kino card. Most people mistakenly think because it's limited by toughness on your board you HAVE to put those counters on the creature with the highest toughness, but you can sacrifice a 1/1 shitter and just put 20 blight counters on it, it's basically fling but without the real downside of having to actually sac the big shit creature.
Literally designed for commander, but it is designed well for it.
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>>97491103
>When you blight X, you may only put counters on ONE creature you control, right?
yes but based on the highest toughness so if you have a 10/10 on board and a 1/1 you can blight 10 -1/-1 counters onto the 1/1
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is this bro the best card in the set? I really dig the design.
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>shocklands
>multiversal passage
>starting town
>fabled passage
>verges
>surveil lands
>tri-color tarkir lands
>temples

Genuinely asking has there ever been a more cracked mana base then right now? I'm surprised there aren't any 5-color standard decks showing up
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>>97491124
If I'm making some goofshit combo with this card it's easier to get forty 1/1s on the board than one 40/40.
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>>97491144
Disgustingly pushed card.
>Creature tutor
>Obscene stats for 3 cost
>Also can untap powerful artifacts/creatures/lands because why not
And the worst part is how out of place it looks because it's a world champion card.
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>>97490374
>sleeve package on the stack
Is it a token or something
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>>97491160
It's overcosted anyway if you want to hit one guy with it. In EDH you can use Saruman the White Hand to just amass a gigantic orc army and hit the table (it even adds 5/5 to it on cast), but in standard the only thing I think you could use it for is...walls of Ba Sing Se?
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>>97490374
>>97491166
K U R W A
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>>97491144
>is this bro the best card in the set?
Fauna Shaman was already unbelievably useful in creature combo decks.
Fuana Shaman that doesn't have to worry about summoning sickness is fucking retarded and fundamentally breaks one of the last remaining vestiges of balance this game has.
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>>97491160
If you have forty 1/1s you can still only blight for 1, it doesn't count total toughness.
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>>97490601
I feel like this is a Pauper all-star card that people just havent really discovered yet.
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>>97491150
It's fucking silly at this point. They reprinted all the old lands for money I'm sure. They know they're highly desired for everyone so they printed them to sell packs. Now they're FUCKED the secondary market, people are flocking to other games, and when it all falls apart the execs will escape on golden parachutes to let the little guy get FUCKED IN THE ASS FUCK WOTC FUCK DEI HIRES FUCK MtG FOR WHAT IT HAS BECOME AND KILLING TRAD MAGIC
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>>97491308
You can't be angry that DEI hires are unqualified and simultaneously angry that DEI hires are orchestrating a scheme where they extract all of the game's financial value and leave us holding the bag
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>>97491308
>Now they've FUCKED the secondary market
This is a good thing though.
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Reprint it you WotC fucks.
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>>97491351
>reprint this card attached to a set-dependent mechanic
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>>97491372
There are no set dependent mechanics.
Mark introduced "guest" mechanics so now every set just has a repulsive shit spattering of keywords that have no place on any given plane.
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>>97491326
They are good at shitting up a company made by white me for their overlords. While injecting their activism at every step. Don’t tell me how I’m allowed to feel you cunt.

>>97491341
Not for the LGS or for the health of the game long term. They’re dumping shit for parachute sets while damaging the brand overall. Enjoy your cheap cards, the game is fucked.
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>>97491380
I will enjoy them, thank you. No other TCG necessitates such expensive bullshit or needs something like the reserve list, pretending it's the secret to magic's success is silly. Magic cards could cost a dollar a pop and it'd still be an alive game, because no other game is as complex and no other game has a working 4 player boardgame mode.
See you next week though, here, complaining about the same shit, because you know you have nowhere else to go.
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>>97491162
fucking hell it cost 2G?
I've seen the card several times and have one in paper, and I just mentally put 3G in the upper right every time.
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>>97491385
>Commander player
Explains a lot. That vocaroo is only proven more right every thread
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> Nooooo, you cant just give menace to green
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>>97491424
Blue gets Unblockable.
Menace is just worse Unblockable.
Blue should get Menace.
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My local store stopped stocking Magic because the only format anyone played was Commander, and the Commander players didn't buy anything outside prereleases. Now all that space that was for Magic went to Pokemon and YGO.
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>>97491439
Think of Nebraska.
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>>97486663
I encourage leaving Hasbrew but, this is yet another abysmally shit take from the /tg/ /mgt/-verse.
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>>97489492
Actually as a 1 of with the rg mh3 eldrazi and the green mill make spawn card it mite b good.
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>>97491150
>Genuinely asking has there ever been a more cracked mana base then right now?
KTK Standard with both Fetches and Shocks.
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Nu-Lorwyn is a very good set, to be honest. Genuinely.
I admit that I am probably liking it even more due to the fact that it's one of the few non-slop sets that the Hasbro Jews are willing to shit out this year, but this is just genuinely fun and soulful.
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>>97491380
Brother, I'm just trying to remind you your enemy can't be weak and strong at the same time.
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>>97491461
>Nu-Lorwyn is a very good set, to be honest. Genuinely.
Incorrect. It is middling at best, and probably closer to D-tier.
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>>97491461
It feels pretty good to be back there. The art is refreshing.
It's essentially a 5-deck draft format where only 3 of the decks are actually good (and I only want to play 2 of them). It's also tribal, and tribal sets are terrible for Limited.
But damn it's chill to draft. Pick all the Elves, or pick all the Merfolk. Easy as fuck. And those decks have very satisfying gameplay.
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>>97491480
Out of curiosity, what do you think the 3 good tribes are?

Because I have now gone 3-0 with 3 of them but I'm aiming for all 5. If you tell me that it's the 3 I already have, I'm gonna be worried kek.
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>>97491496
Elves, Kithkin, Merfolk
Elementals are good too but they need uncommons, their commons are weaker.
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>>97491430
I thought menace was meant to replace intimidate. It’s basically that the dude is too scary to take on without help. I guess some green and blue monsters are scry but it fits best into black and red where it is most common.

>>97491439
Magic’s market share is collapsing for many reasons. Shit like LoTR and FF helped bring in tourists and bring back old players. But they won’t stick around when they’re releasing slop like TMNT and Marvel. Nobody wants modern shit in their fantasy card game.
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>>97491408
>Zero arguments
I accept your concession.
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>>97491507
Oh, alright, good. I won with Elves, Merfolk and Goblins.
Kithkin seem good but they're almost never open.
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>>97488363
>Ive decided Im going to run a revolving door of rogue decks and Im going to shatter the meta and make people rue the day they ever encountered cards that currently they dont even know about.

How about RG Sprout Umbra? Either infinte tokens or pinging with umbra enchanted alchemist for lots of draw.

4 Thermo-Alchemist
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Goblin Anarchomancer
2 Ardent Elementalist
4 Thunderscape Familiar
4 Molten Gatekeeper
4 Snake Umbra
4 Manamorphose
4 Sprout Swarm
4 Khalni Garden
4 Rugged Highlands
10 Mountain
2 Forest
2 Gruul Turf
4 Glimpse the Impossible

3 Relic of Progenitus
3 Essence Warden
3 Spidersilk Armor
4 Red Elemental Blast
2 Cast into the Fire
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>>97491480
>The art is refreshing.
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>>97492028
heather is a good artist
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>>97491461
Anti-UB schizo is now convincing himself that EDH-bait: The Set is good because it doesn't have any women in spandex on the art
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>>97492101
This game is doomed.
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>>97491042
No fly, jump good
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>>97488579
It was The Gitrog.
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>>97492135
Yeah, that's a proxy
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>>97486192
Redeemed and vindicated
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>>97492119
>This game is doomed.
The west is doomed. (All of it.)
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>>97487348
>It feels fucking insulting
You'll buy it anyways.
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>>97491462
> The execs and DEI hires are the same entity and have an equal share of power.
There is a difference between the people who collect money through non salary sources that are destroying the monetary value of the game. Vs the people who collect salary and draw blacked card art. Same way jews control the western governments are not the same entity as muslim foot soldiers even though they are on the same side.
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>>97492135
>Looks like you don't own an air fryer
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>>97491150
>I'm surprised there aren't any 5-color standard decks showing up
The reason is the format is way too fast to allow tapped lands
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>>97491150
Technically mostly temur plus a splash of black, but elementals can get pretty dumb thanks to ashling, flamebraider, and the tribal lands.
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>>97489756
I would probably not hate Eldraine, Bloomburrow or NuLorwyn if this was the style, but that would require them to commit to it main set, and find someone else to print as overpriced garbage.
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>>97492238
It slowed down a bit with Lorwyn since everyone is packing creature removals to fight cub decks.
The pro tour winner was a reanimator deck that ran 8 tapped lands, 4 of which (pic rel) are part of the win con
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>>97492313
Manlands were a mistake
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>>97492325
I enjoy Stalking Stones. The effect being permanent means you can interact with it at sorcery speed, and the distinction between pure lands and all other cards on the battlefield makes tracking not a big deal.
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>>97491308
Dei hires are pushed by execs who want DEI investment money. Reprinting chase raresis pushed by execs who want more sales. FIRE design and power creep is pushed by execs who want to rotate every format and keep players buying product.
Know your enemy, it's ((them))
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>>97492135
>how come nobody could find this custom proxy for me
retard-kun...
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>>97491439
seeing Pokemon retake display space at game stores is really funny somehow but i can't put my finger on it
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Anecdotally, my experience of playing PokemonTCG weekly's at the LGS, versus my experience of playing Commander at the LGS is night and day. PokemonTCG is a way superior product to Magic. Better gameplay, artwork, everything. Pokemon deserves to succeed.

My one regret is I have never actually gotten to experience what 1v1 Magic is like at the LGS, I joined the Magic via Commander. I've only ever play 1v1 formats digitally or at the kitchen table. It's too late now.
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>>97492480
You are totally insane. The Pokémon TCG is fucked. Zero interactivity so you get to watch someone take a 10 minute turn drawing 40 cards. The prize system is good but the powercreep is real.
The Pokémon TCG beats Magic in that at leaat in Pokémon you can actually make competitive budget decks that cost $30 and shit on $200 meta sweatlord decks, while in Magic the budget deck is just fucking dead. But I tried playing Pokémon and it's so much more shallow.
Magic's mechanics remain the best in TCGs.
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>>97491144
What will be her inevitable world champion card?
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>>97492480
I'm too old and too autistic to play pokemon in public. Walley is my one of who wins games in my Mega Lopunny deck. A deck full of pizza and hotdogs
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>>97491089
I know it's slow as shit, but it still activates my almonds
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>>97492556
They're so pure and innocent, blissfully unaware of the horrors that await them
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>>97491089
It's interesting. I think I still prefer Chandra's Ignition, though. Both have hoops to jump through to get a good effect.
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>>97485828
I miss grave titan. He was the coolest titan.
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>>97492660
actually the coolest one was frost titan
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>>97492718
Carlos...
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>>97491119
Does that actually work that way that's imba wtf
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>>97492744
Yes. I use it for my Saruman the White Hand deck.
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Commander was a mistake.
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Commander was fine when it used Magic cards. But now Commander informs every facet of Magic design, and Magic players are forced to play with Commander cards.
Commander 2011 was a mistake, and harbinger of doom for Magic as a whole.
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>>97492660
Sun Titan wins the Coolest Titan Award on flavor text alone.
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Endling blocks was a mistake
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>>97492802
Reading the new cards that they add in commander precons baffles me. It's supposed to be an intro product for the "new player friendly" format but half the cards are giant walls of text that use multiple keywords from across Magic's history that sometimes don't even get reminder text. Commander piggies lap that slop up though so what do I know
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Foundations was actually the biggest mistake in the last several years.
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>>97491150
i heard that in shards of alara standard there was a deck that could and did play cloudthresher and cruel ultimatum, and could even cast them on consecutive turns
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>>97492876
That deck probably ran Vivid lands which are big pieces of shit that come in tapped.
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>>97492868
Nah, core sets that other sets are balanced around are necessary
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>>97492912
Hard disagree, having Llanowar Elves and Omniscience in standard for 5 years is a very bad idea. This is the same design team that forgot Doc Aurlock might make airbending infinite, or that someone might use Agatha's Soul Cauldron with Vivi. 5 years is too much for the retarded design team to handle.
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>>97492921
*Play Design team
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>>97492912
The issue is 90% of Foundations is chaff that is far below the power level of modern standard sets. For a set with like 700 cards between different sub-sets the fact that only a small handful of cards like Elf and Omni see play is embarrassing. Doubly so when some of the few cards that see play have proven to be possible problems for the next 5 years of design
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>>97492912
yes, except wizards sucks ass at it an new sets are incomparable to foundations
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Not gonna lie, bros... TMNT looks fun
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>>97493206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwBfGQJhDT8
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>>97493206
It's an IP I dislike so much that I'll probably skip it completely, like Spiderman.
Unless I hear the Limited environment is great then I'll come do some drafts.
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>>97493206
this but the opposite
and I like TMNT as a series
>>97493275
what is the limited history of sets with ninjutsu? I liked nu-kamigawa altho I never drafted ninjas
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>>97493206
Ok, Buta-kun.
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>>97493206
Why is Donatello getting cucked? Is he base? Is this the equivalent of Aragorn getting blacked? This is MtG btw.
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>>97492868
This. All the evidence you need is how they gave blue Omniscience for 5 years and all White got was Giada crap and worthless cats
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>>97491113
>over a decade of intentional crippling of mono white
>At the same time multiple sets had broken and banned nonwhite cards
>a fucking DECADE of card design that somehow managed to never design a broken White card for Standard
Once is excusable. Twice is concerning. A dozen fucking sets in a row is an intentional pattern.
Kikes, hate, White.
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>>97493450
because don IS a cuck
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I think mono-white is strong... in Brawl. My mono-white Brawl-Commander is Momo and I think he does pretty well. Also he is super cute.

I need some cuteness or vorothos reason to play, so Momo is a good commander for me.
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>>97492660
Good news! You can play (merfolk) Frost Titan in Standard right now!
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>>97493699
Or play Alchemy where they also have 1 mana draw 2 that you could return to hand with merfolk titan :)
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>>97486663
The game is for younger females and trans. Not for you, white man (black play yugioh).
>>97486716
Being cooler than slop, doesn't make it good.

>>97493206
Better than the last 3 sets, yeah.
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Azorius Tempo feels so good in the post-PT meta. It absolutely slaughters the Superior Spiderman-focused decks, as well as lessons and cubs too a lot of the time.

>>97486777
Deserved. He actually threw a game to stop it from being a total blowout before sideboards could even be involved.
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Watching a Clarion Conqueror absolutely shut Cubs the fuck down never gets old. I haven’t had that much fun since using Guardian of Faith to dodge control wipes
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>>97488689
>>97492135
>>97492419
Thank you. Came here to post that I found a copy of it saved to my phone. Retard-kun confirmed
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>>97486663
>when the whimsy set has whimsy in it
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>>97493450
What does this card have to do with Donatello?
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>>97491144
>get immortalized into a magic promo
>it's for the cryptonazi faction
lol
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>>97486663
>Lisa Frank isn't cool
Damn son you got some shit taste, you'll definitely fit in better at one of the anime tables, and we'll benefit by losing a NEOvagina newfag.
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>>97494200
Donatello sits in the chair behind some Kitsune bitch in his own set.
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>>97491089
Sick, but it needs the classic border to go with that art.

>>97492578
They're pretty aware, there's an Eldrazi right there on the page. That's a design mistake that competes with the worst of them.
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>>97494235
I know that being in the graveyard doesn't strictly mean a creature is dead, lorewise, but... that is a weird effect to give Leo. He's never been a healer, as far as I recall.
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>>97494235
That's Leo in a black mask, not Don.

I kept seeing that Don post, wondering what the hell it was even about... That's Leo.
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>>97494265
maybe he's distracting the enemy so the others can recover and get a second wind
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>>97491023
could have worked better as a horror plane similar to Innistrad. and although I did not like the modern equipment and references some art was good (the clowns especially)
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>>97494407
But Duskmorn is better than Innistrad, because it's a themepark based on Stranger Things, which is only sort of gay, compared to Innistrad being based on Twilight, which is super gay.
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>>97494421
yes I also love haunted houses!!! yay!
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>>97494459
t. sparkling vampires enjoyer
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>>97487817
>reveal, cant cast spells with the name of the revealed card until their next turn
Technically not the same, but you cant rules dictate hidden information like multiple copies in an unrevealed hand
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>>97494421
This but for different reasons.
Haunted house full of killer clowns, slayers, demons, good hearthed spirits, overlords and nightmares>Gothic horror muh werewolf, frankenstein, dracula, ghosts.

Duskmourn horror is just plain better than the shit Innistrad provided.
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>>97494588
cringe bait
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>>97494588
Duskmourn had some great aesthetics when they hit (Overlord of the Balemurk is a beautiful looking card) and a great limited environment.
Innistrad was a good set too but it's definitely overrated by people who have nostalgia for it.
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>>97494604
Truth always hurts.
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>>97494588
t.
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>>97494655
cringe bait
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Maro is making a new card game
https://www.tumblr.com/markrosewater/807558480779182080/secret-lair-redacted-presents-not-a-magic-the
Even he knows magic is dead
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>>97492802
>Commander was fine when it used Magic cards.
When EDH had zero support and demanded you assemble the best deck you can out of the worst cards, it was great. Singleton produced interesting, high-level games for advanced players who naturally knew the wider card pool. It was a high-level, ultra complex format for entrenched lovers of the game.

I still, to this day, CAN NOT FUCKING FATHOM why WotC thought EDH should the fucking format that would introduce people to the game. Yes, also, introducing cards "designed for edh" was disgusting. The whole point of the format was for it to be a home for weird, chaff jank that no other format could absorb. I didn't so much mind the original precons, aside from Animar and Kaalia they were perfectly in line with the reatrdo-world the format was cultivating at the time. The rest though, yeah, fuck off. Designing cards for EDH simply killed the spirit of the format.
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>>97494421
>But Duskmorn is better than Innistrad,
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I'm tired boss.
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>>97494659
I looked up if this card is real, it actually is.
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>>97494996
Foil cards are gross
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>>97495067
Anyway here's mythic rarity and the reserved list.
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>>97494871
It's probably Mood Swings, the card game he's been working on in his own time for ages. Probably not really meant to be anything 'special', just a fun event.
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>>97495067
Sorry, we established he's a DEI hire because he supports women, and thus his word means nothing.
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>>97494901
>why WotC thought EDH should the fucking format that would introduce people to the game
this was obviously forced on them by the blinding masses of commander-only casuals who have started playing in the last 10 years.
casuals like their deck having an identity beside some retarded breakfast cereal reference only decipherable for the five worst-smelling obese men at the game store. They like how commander is really a 3v1 game. They play the game wrong and they don't care because magic is still fun even when you play it wrong.
I'm sick of this retarded
>um actually commander is the WORST format for new players
it is objectively not the case. More players have entered the game via commander than ever did playing the elves vs goblins duel decks or whatever. Probably by an order of magnitude. Reality directly contradicts your opinion. Commander is a successful entry-level product. Work backward from that hard fact and find the reasons for it--there are plenty of them.
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>>97495088
>it is objectively not the case.
Okay sure, maybe WotC could have made Judge's Tower the premier "new player entry point" and it would have been worse. EDH remains easily the worst possible entry point for new players among all real, reasonable formats to choose.

>Commander is a successful entry-level product.
Nobody who enters MTG through EDH knows how to actually play MTG. All they learn how to do is have other people tell them what cards to play.
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>>97495088
You say this but Commander played "optimally" is just 4c valueslop piles getting into a stallout that ends with players agreeing to a draw. If you're going to judge 60-card by how it's played competitively then you have to do the same with Commander.
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>>97495103
nobody knows how to play MTG period. 95% of people are playing it completely wrong and that has always been the case since before commander existed.
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>>97494421
>it's a themepark based on Stranger Things, which is only sort of gay, compared to Innistrad being based on Twilight, which is super gay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsQEE3pRiyg
nice bait tho

btw twilight is not gay, it is for straight woman influencing their hype(&poli)rgamy tendencies.

Also original and return to innistrad was just gothic horror troupes.

Crimison Vow&midnight hunt is pure shit, and I agree. If you are a new fag who only got to experience those two sets then I can see your shit opinion about Innistrad.

>>97494588
>slayers,demons, good hearthed spirits, nightmares
Innistrad have those.
Admit it, you just fear clowns and got excited to see your fear on mtg cards.

>>97494996
Honestly one of the best Universes Beyond we got in the this year. Straight commander shit, not tainting Standard+Pioqueer+Modead
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How many products a year can this game handle? When the porcine customers get actually tired of sinking money?
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>>97495148
one more
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>>97495148
At least four more.
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>>97495148
>How many products a year can this game handle?
MORE.
SLURP YER SLOP, PIGGIE!
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>>97495148
I think 12 sets is the breaking point, imagine having a set every single month with no breaks, every two weeks a new spoiler season lol
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>>97495148
at least six or seven more
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>>97495167
I think that's the final Hasbro objective.
No joking.
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>>97495167
Bruv I'm already tired of it. Every fucking new card is like:
>Bumfuck McCreature {1}
>Whenever you do X, You win the game.
>Whenever you cast a spell, Do X.
>0/3
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>>97495167
>I think 12 sets is the breaking point, i
4 sets is the breaking point.
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killing blocks was the end for this game.
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>>97495148
bold of you to assume the pigs are repeat customers
that means "they" never get tired because it's always a different audience
there could be a new set every week and it would make the same profit as long as it universes beyond because actual magic players are in the minority
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>>97495197
Bumfuck McCreature...legendary!
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>>97495244
The legendary is a 2/4 so it doesn't die to Bolt.
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>>97495197
>0/3
: (

>3/3
: )
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>>97495253
Magic could print a 4-mana 7/7 tomorrow and it would be unplayable without more text on it.
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>>97495262
They printed a 3-mana 7/7 with double evasion and it saw zero (0) play.
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>>97495262
anon they printed a 3 mana 7/6
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>>97495262
Vanilla is absurd in a game where you can have this wall of text.
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>>97495262
but they did print a 2 mana 8/8 that sees no play already
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>>97495285
what were they thinking lol?
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>>97495262
Yes, because a 1 mana 13/13 exists (which is also unplayable)
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>>97495304
>what were they thinking lol?
We know exactly what they were thinking. They did half a podcast on designing Vivi alone, and it amounted to "we wanted a certain je ne sais qois."
Basically, "It wasn't powerful enough, so we buffed it" fifty times over. No discussion of game balance, just repeated "We wanted it to be le epic!"
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>>97495321
the fact that epic means overpowered to them rather than interesting gameplay really shows that the designers need to be fired asap
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>>97495262
only used to crew fucking vehicles and spacecraft ffs
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>>97495339
>the fact that epic means overpowered to them rather than interesting gameplay really shows that the designers need to be fired asap
The discussion of "We didn't want it to be a tap ability because that would have given people counterplay" was a personal favorite part of the discussion.
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>>97495344
there is no way, what podcast was this?
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>>97495349
https://youtu.be/BJ2vkAi8at0&t=270s
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>>97495307
Dies to Push. We live in a world stiflenought is too fair to see play.
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>>97495343
and hitting in the air t3 for 16 point swings
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>>97495366
cool bo1 deck arenabro
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>>97495357
>"So restricting the timing of when you can add the mana wasn't really working. So then we said, okay what if you get to decide when you add it?"
>"I guess time will tell if it's too strong."
TESTS, YOU IDIOT.
PLAYTESTS WILL TELL IF IT IS TOO STRONG HOLY FUCK.
PLAYTEST THE FUCKING CARD YOU IDIOT THAT'S HOW YOU FIND OUT IF IT IS TOO STRONG.
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>>97495372
Thank you!
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>>97495378
>playtest
but anon they are not actual magic players
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>>97495366
As much as I think Lorwyn was total poop, this guy's sick. Pseudo-removal, a non-instant-win combo engine and (shockingly) an actually reasonable body for its cost that isn't retardedly pushed for no reason is a great place for design to be.
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>>97495357
exciting really is the word they love to use in place of powercreep, huh
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>>97495405
>exciting really is the word they love to use in place of powercreep, huh
FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
>FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
>FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
>FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
>FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
>FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
>FUN INVITING REPLAYABLE EXCITING
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>>97495372
sorry, I apologize for having too much fun, I'll get right back to consooming some more nostalgia pills right away sir
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>>97495412
as long as you understand
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>>97495378
I'm sure they playtested it in commander :)
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>>97495378
>PLAYTEST THE FUCKING CARD YOU IDIOT THAT'S HOW YOU FIND OUT IF IT IS TOO STRONG.
Lead designer of MTG, btw.
They're not sending their best.
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>>97495445
>print another modern horizons set
>it warps every format the set is legal in AGAIN
if pic related didn't have reach it would have probably been DoA
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>>97495445
Playtest for what format?
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>>97495499
Standard at the very least.
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>>97495504
Standard is barely played. EDH is the most played format.
What now.
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>>97495514
>The format they put the most development resources into gets the most play.
Wow it's almost as if putting more resources into Standard would result in Standard being more popular???
Almost as if using self-generated outcomes as a market signals is fucking retarded or something?
>"We here at the Coca Cola company made three new soft drink flavors! We marketed one of the three flavors widely with aggressive, high-cost marketing campaigns. What's that?! Two of the three new flavors aren't selling!? Damn, they must suck."
Like fuck off this is RE. TAR. DED.
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>>97495378
>TESTS, YOU IDIOT.
>these are the testers
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>>97495559
BEHOLD
BLESSED PERFECTION
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>>97491213
It's a 2 of in white weenie, it's fairly strong but you can't afford to have a million of those in the deck
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BG WHERE WE AT
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>>97495608
>No Ancestral Recall
ngmi
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>>97495378
I'm 100% convinced they dont playtest shit.
You cant convince me they can allow cards like pic related if they EVER PLAY SINGLE FUCKING GAME WITH IT.
Is impossible, you make this, try this and you instantly know this is wrong.
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>>97495559
>Playtesters thought the mutate cards would be busted
>The best mutate card in playtesting is the one that exposes the immense weakness of mutate (whole stack dying to a single kill spell)
>Playtesters didn't make the connection here
>Oh yeah and Companion
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>>97495611
I can't pay 1 mana to draw 3 cards but I can pay 52 mana to draw 50 of your cards
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>>97495613
>You cant convince me they can allow cards like pic related if they EVER PLAY SINGLE FUCKING GAME WITH IT.
Fucking facts. Sometimes cards are tough to judge on paper, and I admit that I was on the fence about this card's power prior to release.
However, the first time I saw it on the table, ONE GAME seeing it actually played. Fuck that, not even one game, A SINGLE TURN WITH IT ON THE BATTLEFIELD and I immediately recognized it as one of the most insufferable problem cards ever printed.
Literally the first fucking second I was sitting at a table, had someone cast it, then read the card and thought about how it will impact the game, I recognized it as unacceptable.
VERY few cards have that effect. Umezawa's Jitte was similar. You see it on board, read it and think about the game, then quickly realize "oh yeah I literally have no possible way to beat this."
Fucking hacks. Morons. Total idiots. Every player I know saw Cutter as a problem card within a day of release. You're probably right, they likely don't playtest cards even a single time.
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Remember pajeet & the cat, whoopsie oopsie!
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>>97495613
they mostly just playtest for Limited you fucking retards. this has always been true.
how do you people cry constantly and still not know such basic shit by now.
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>>97495197
>Name, the Noun (multicolored)
>Legendary Creature
>Keyword that is shared among two or more colors
>Whenever you do X, You win the game.
>Whenever you cast a spell, Do X.
>power roughly equal to CMC cost/toughness roughly equal to CMC
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>>97495304
Making a cool Commander
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>>97495731
and that's a good practice for a multinational company in charge of a product with worldwide customers?
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>>97495378
>>97495613
The fact that they went on record saying they never thought Oko's +1 "could be used offensively" tells you everything you need to know. They don't play the game.
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>>97495613
They playtested Oko and never considered using his first ability on the opponent's board
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>>97495567
>6 mana bone shards
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>>97495357
>Return to Ravnica
2 good sets, one meh-shit set.
>Everything else you helped design
mostly shit
>>97495559
>>97495567
If the mutate ability was 2bb I could see it being good.
>kill spell for 2bb that kills creature or pw at instant speed and can become repetitive + gives flying to creature you control and can also make it a 3/3
That would have been good. 4BB is what makes the bat garbage imho.
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>>97495357
>oficial wotc video
>uses Scryfall to search cards instead of gatherer
lmao
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>>97495935
Removal of Gatherer comments was the death of MTG culture.
Scryfall not having comments / ratings on cards was a huge missed opportunity.
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>>97495946
Island: 1/5
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>>97495567
naw

BEHOLD
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>>97495845
man I'm just telling you how this shit works so that maybe you'll have one less thing to cry nonsense about on social media.
>waaaah waaaah I lost to Steel-Cutter in a Pioneer game why didn't they test this
because they have never once tested a single card for that format during any set's design process
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Okay, hear me out. How does this look, mechanically?
This might look like custom Commander bullshit, but it's actually custom draft bullshit meant to facilitate an archetype based around "when this dies" effects
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>>97495613
This was playteste during the Sheoldred the Apocalypse era meaning they boosted its power up because red was. We are currently experiencing the effects of the green is weak complaints with them boosting the power of green cards.
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>>97496014
mutate needs to have an effect that triggers when they mutate
should have something like "when this creature mutates return a card with mutate from your graveyard to your hand", by looping mutate effects you could storm out your entire graveyard
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>>97496014
Babe wake up it's time for your Atraxa again
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>>97496046
soooo... where are the powerful white cards?
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Slippery Slope
Land
You may play an additional land during each of your turns

r8 idea
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>>97496072
7 mana atraxa would not work unless you remove the mutate target on cast
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>>97496079
Only 1 schizo is complaining so they aren't going to do anything. During the time people were complaining about wrath exiles being too strong and lifegain being annoying.
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>>97496111
I saw a similar post a couple weeks ago lol.
unless the land also taps for mana it's not good. you'd basically trade your turn 1 to have exploration on a land and at that point just run exploration
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>>97496111
I thought at first this was undercosted, but I did a little comparison and it's probably fine
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>>97495946
>Scryfall not having comments / ratings on cards was a huge missed opportunity.
Scryfall would never do that, it would just put a spotlight on "a group afflicted by some perverse Peter Pan complex, where you never outgrow the perspective of the average suburban 15 year-old boy. Losers, in other words."
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>>97496324
Steal another idea from pokemon
https://pkmncards.com/
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Say something nice about him
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>>97496392
>Somehow the only [insect] that makes another [insect] in standard that isn't also 6 mana or a different creature type
Insect tokens used to be so common just 5 years ago. Blex, please save us...
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>>97496456
They really should've had witherbloom use insects instead of making pests for no reason.
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>>97496502
Hexhaven>Strixhaven.
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>>97496502
They should've used insects for a lot of things, but for some reason, they only recently got around to putting a spotlight on them in Duskmourn, Aetherdrift and Edge of Eternities. I really wish standard had better options for bugs other than Swarmweaver and Aatchik (Spider-Man doesn't count), they require so many hoops to get them going that it's nearly impossible to use them outside commander. It's amazing Swarmweaver has seen any play, and it was only because it's 4 mana for 3 bodies in Golgari.
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>>97496392
turns on unholy annex, ramps you 1, and doesn't just die to removal 1:1 or leave you open to attack without a block like firdoch core does

also
>t1 llanowar elves
>t2 mutable changeling
>t3 voja
>t4 activate land, attack for 17 and draw 3 cards and still have 2 mana open
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>>97496532
If Hexhaven is cool I'll sign up with Jace, but from the spoiled stuff they look dumb.
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Will they have the balls to reprint Divide By Zero into standard?
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>>97496392
I'm sure he's some horrific combo enabler, but all I really see is "mana dork with extra steps"
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>>97496392
I liked him in draft. I wish Standard wasn't as broken for him to be competitively playable.
>>97496565
I wish IRL brawl was a thing. I would play that for sure.
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>>97496538
>Bugs are icky
>Omenpiss is just AI art spiders
Fuck these people are dumb
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>>97496570
I've seen one pic with a group of Hexhaven kids in the background, is there more?
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>>97496744
no, just that and the blurb, already sounds stupid though
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>>97496138
>Exploration that cost 0 mana and that you can pull out of your yard with Life From the Loam or tutor/sac with Crop Rotation or pitch to Mox Diamond
I know none of you retards have played Legacy Lands before but it's insane that you think this would be worse than Exploration and not just insanely busted
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>>97496761
I don't have high hopes for the goatee universe version of the Harry Potter knockoff plane, but I'm curious how they plan to portray not-Azorius and not-Selesnya as evil. Maybe they'll lean into WU's fan perception as the "no fun allowed" pair, and take GW's normal theme of community and spin it as autocracy
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>>97496798
>how they plan to portray not-Azorius and not-Selesnya as evil
That's easy, Azorius and Selesnya are already evil.
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>>97496713
It seems like they've changed their view in the past couple years, at least somewhat. It their minds, as long as they keep rolling out 6+ sets a year, it doesn't really matter what themes they go with since people can just skip the sets they don't like.
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>>97497053
god I fucking maro and everything he stands for so much it's unreal
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>>97497103
>I fucking maro and everything he stands for
What did he mean by this?
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>>97497130
anon cannot into post
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>>97497146
Tragic.
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>>97497103
>Maro
>Standing for anything
Reminder he still says Storm is a 10 while Companion is a 9 on the storm scale.
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>>97497220
>Reminder he still says Storm is a 10 while Companion is a 9 on the storm scale.
The real Companion Scale goes up to 11.
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>>97497224
Mark knows best chud! The Ikoria companions were just a misstep. The design is still salvageable, unlike Storm which is an inherently problematic keyword that can never go into Standard.
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>>97497255
Oh yeah and all but one of Storm's bans were for Pauper.
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>>97497255
>50%
70%.
>Gyruda
Legacy LED

>Jegantha
fucking everything what the FUCK were they thinking with this shit

>Kaheera
Again, shoves itself uninvited into every deck without creatures. Disgusting.

>Lurruz
THE Power 0 of MTG. God of Gods. Queen of Queens Titan among mortals. All lands, instants, sorceries, enchantments, artifacts, planeswalkers, conspiracies and battles cower at the mere mention of her name.

>Lutri
Auto pre-banned in EDH.

>Yorion
Obvious cringe control garbage.

>Zirda
Legacy.combo.

It's 7/10, not 5/10.
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>>97497220
>"I will ONLY break my rules if it's for a shitty joke."
Somehow this is even more pathetic than someone who breaks their own rules freely.
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>>97496798
We already had evil Trostani and evil Azor. It's not that difficult.
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>>97497380
It's the reverse actually.
Stormscale was the playtest name but playtesters loved it so much they kept it.
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>>97497508
>>97497508
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>>97497053
i hate faggots and trannies so much its unreal
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>>97496798
Either they follow the Tarkir Dragonlord philosophies or the follow follows an evil version of strixhaven's college.
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>>97495366
why does she need silverquill if she's deaf
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>>97495573
Im going to run 2 of it in my Orzhov Cauldron Familiar list. With City Pigeons. Attack with Pigeon, return it to hand, get a food, sac food for cauldron familiar, repeat.
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>>97496806
Just in OG Ravnica

>Selesnya
BrainWash cult of hippies
>Azorius
Law making and enforcer force that is corrupt as fuck and don't care of slaving ghosts like the other guilds.
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>>97496585
Blue is and will always will be their pet colour so it wouldn't suprise me to see it added in

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