Should I try to sell off my IDK now? I am worried that the rumours about them being squatted in the reboot will come true.

>>97861657
Stop trying to pretend there's any rumors about IDK, you fucking schizo.

>>97861657
this better be a falseflag because I refuse to believe I share a general with someone this stupid

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>>97861640
>Soup
IDK+LRL, lets be serious this game DOESN'T need 4 elf factions and no one really likes these marine fags, soup them with the Light chads and hope they can do something in a single book carried by gameplay options.

>Unsoup
Obviously Ironjawz and Kruleboyz, Kruleboyz have a lot of room for expansion with chivalry, heavy armored infantry, warmachines...

Ironjawz should be given powder already to have some ranged support, some monsters besides pigs like some new Troggs or little cabbage dragons, maybe an armored vehicle to show their mastery with metal etc.

That said, i consider soup a shit and i will always advocate towards unsoup shit rather than half assed soups.

Hello, Sissies of Seethmore

They've been saying grogs won all across the community. Now that the dust has settled, did they?

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>>97861640
>Your favourite glup shitto subfaction gets their own tome, including associated release wave
Kinda just want rootkings to be shared with cities and sylvaneth, greater emphasis on sylvaneth if I really had to pick between the two. Honestly surprised they haven’t tried showcasing the ever queen as a alternative figure that other races worship aside from like, that one beast bro in dark water, even then he registers more as a amber wizard for people not into the setting.

But uh… soup helsmiths with slaves to darkness either way. There’s too much chaos shit.

>>97861723
>Now that the dust has settled, did they?
Please don't steal my line to promote hatred and division

>>97861723
alt-tab back to TWW, I'm sure AI has finished its turn already

>97861723
>Fishing (You)s with this low effort shit
Nu-uh.

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Not long now :3

>>97861769
I still don’t get why bottom left is in my treelord spam army of renown.

>>97861769
Kurnothi shouldnt have any trees, Kurnoth enthusiast...

>>97861740
That's MY line, imposter. I'm Dusticus.

OKAY, got the initial setup for my COS force. Holy fuck GW really wants you to use your regiments with them. Still no clue what grenadiers or the knights will actually do but fingers crossed they're not just hot ass. I'm excited to get a nice gunline rocking though.

>>97861784
also dont forget wildercorps. those guys are scrappy as fuck. decent shooting, decent fighting, advance deployment, low point cost. just a wonderful, versatile unit thats often underestimated but clutch on the table. also their models are fantastic

>>97861843
So far what I've got and will get the full list is gonna be: 20 Fusileers, 2 marshals on foot, callis and toll, 2 cannons, metal wizard guy, couple command corps, and fusil major.

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>>97861699
>IDK+LRL, lets be serious this game DOESN'T need 4 elf factions and no one really likes these marine fags, soup them with the Light chads and hope they can do something in a single book carried by gameplay options.
Fuck off, also if you're going to soup idk at least put thek together with the snake ladies.

>>97861678
On her turn she tries to cast some defensive spells but either I dispel them or she fails the roll so we move onto movement where her arch-warlock walks away as her grey seer on bell prepares a charge. Meanwhile from a gnawhole the Ratling Blaster and more clan rats arrive. The blaster fires directly into my maniak blowing him to pieces as the bell charges my pigs and kills them. I do take down the stormfiend but fail to kill the catapult. She is slightly up in points as we go to round 3 wither her winning the roll but giving me the turn.

>>97861699
>IDK+LRL
idoneth and lumineth cannot be together, their fluff makes them antithetical to one another

>>97861902
I stopped taking pictures beacuse I am dumb and was trying to focus but this is the last round. I casted a few buffs and rallied my shot boys back. Moved up the bulk of my troops preparing to kill her heros. Three clawsteps gets her gray seer out of danger but I converge on the one on the bell. My Wurgog uses his mask to do 7 damage but blows himself up in the process. My savage big boss does the rest in melee. The first gnawhole and catapult go down. Clearing up the left field but unfortunately she keeps bring stuff on the right side with her abilities and with time running low we call it, her victory I just cant move fast enough and not be shot to all hell. Good game Bonesplitterz did better than usual.

>>97862043

Why were the models mostly unpainted? Made it look like a TOW game.

>>97862043
Hope you had fun. Thanks for the pictures, Brosplitter.

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>>97862024
>GW giving a single shit about their fluff
Remember the end times and how Malekith was the true shiny boy so all elves immediately followed him despite his millennia of evil acts against them.

>>97861728
That anime babe/dude seems to have a serious eye infection, he oughta get it looked at instead of touching the cow.

>>97862104
Okay but that was based.

>>97862104
malekith being the rightful king is actually a genuinely good twist, it was unfortunately executed poorly and handled fast, but it's the right way to address the elves divide

lumies and idoneths cannot be together though

>>97862104
>>97862226
>Malekith
*Malerion

>>97862234
malerion works as his birth name, malekith works as his edge name

>>97861753
Forgot to reset the faction cameras, so it'll be a while, yet.

>>97861640
>tq
Realistically if any armies are going to be souped next it's ogres with sons of behemat
>big strong retards with mercenary tendencies
>even bigger stronger retards with mercenary tendencies
As for unsoup kb and ij man it's rough. I'd also like to see gitmob be their own thing on paper but I don't think it's got enough legs to stand on their own, they're just going to continue to be an aesthetically clashing subfaction I guess.
>>97862226
Him being the king all along is cool
The helves actually following him after however many millennia of scorched earth total war is kinda retarded tho

>>97862104
>Remember the end times and how Malekith was the true shiny boy so all elves immediately followed him despite his millennia of evil acts against them.
thatn ot what happen tho
khainites followed tyrion because he drew the sword and morathi literally wanted to fuck tyrion thinking he was possessed by aenarion's ghost.
Teclis sided with malekith becuase he was out of options and desperate for that asuryan asspull magic to save them.

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>>97862271
>Gitmob being their own thing.
This just this. Make them the Sun counterpart, give them warmachines, snotlings, wolves and chariots as the gotta go fast part of goblins.

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>>97862226
This. It was based and should have been refrenced more since

>>97862514
Or just say that Grotbag were part of them all along and give them skyships. They'd fit with the speedster playstyle and wouldn't have made sens in a cave anyway

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This talk of soup and gits makes me wonder, what went so right with gloomspite?
I mean in the sense that we've got quite a bit of armies that are, essentially, a single unit or subfaction from an old whfb army blown up to be a full army. Slayers into fyreslayers, cairn/hex wraiths into nighthaunt, ghouls into fec, etc. A lot of those factions get the critique that they're too narrow in terms of design; classic example is dorfs. You had the old dwarf army unifying normal viking/anglo/tolkien units together with slayers and engineer tech shits reasonably well. Then in aos the slayers and tech shit each became their own faction, but they're only slayers and tech shit respectively, like they're only really doing one thing. Fyreslayers get the most complaints about this, but they're not the only one. Even factions that are generally liked conceptually sometimes get the critique that they're too narrow visually (classic example here is nighthaunt). Not to say that those factions are bad or anything, but I think in general they do seem to trend towards the lower half of the game's factions in terms of popularity.
Now gloomspite have somehow completely avoided this; they're another subfaction (night goblins) turned into their own army, but are consistently among the game's most popular armies even when ruleswise they've been pretty shit for 90% of their existence.
So, what gives?

>>97862567
Speaking of skyships, I notice the skaven ones keep being mentioned in lore despite none of them being playable. It's a shame.

>>97862608
they were already a competently designed subgroup from from whfb, not just one unit or one hat

The correct way to handle IDK is to soup them into the new umbraneth army under Malerion and make him established as the eternity king over all aelf souls hailing from the old world. Since that is how the idoneth were created, using the souls rescued from slaanesh's gullet, that makes them fall under his domain. Morathi will fall in line too.

>>97862901
Idoneth doesn’t have hair tho

>>97862901
Honestly the most reasonable soup idea I've seen for elves so far.

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>>97862608
I would resolve this matter with one word: Charisma.
Goblinos have charisma, the reveal trailer of your pic related was, in my personal experience, the first one that truly got me invested in AoS with the Bad Moon revealing himself at the end and the whole "cave" aesthetic the design team choose for the Night goblins was one of the best decisions they ever made. Gitz+Troggs+Squigs make for colorful, varied and interesting armies ok the field and moreover the range since the beginning was big and complete.

GSC is how you make a faction in the right way.

>>97862901
>Morathi will fall in line too.
you lost me there, chief, for a moment i was interested.
let malerion keep sleeping.

>>97862901
Or maybe get this...just expand idoneth not everything needs to be souped ffs

>>97863093
You can't keep a faction separate that has maybe 80 dedicated players globally.

>>97863107
They've done it for 8 years already. GSC in 40k have low player rates and have been going on for 10 years, and BoC were gonna get refreshed before they squatted for Old World.

>>97863127
GSC are kino thobeit and probably have many people who like them at HQ. Whereas IDK are unpopular and a pet project of one guy who doesn't work there anymore.

>>97863137
If they are unpopular at hq how come they got an incarnate, and 3 heroes this edition.

Also implying that Idoneth is not kino lol.

>>97863151
No one even knows what an incarnate is. Also pity heroes do not a faction make.

>>97863158
They got a bigass new centerpiece model that happens to be a spell and a new special character that their lore pushes into a central position and then a pity hero with two build options, which is more than most armies have gotten this edition. Stop being retarded just because you don't like IDK.

>>97863158
You literally praised GSC which is 60% pity hero I know I own them. No a truly unpopular army is one that gets nothing ala Bonesplitterz.

>>97863173
I praised genestealer cults because they are the most Warhammer 40k faction added in the last 15 years to that game. Meanwhile IDK were just a way to get marine sculpts into the range. Sculpts that were completely unneeded and remain unpopular.

>>97861640
>Soup
IDK+DoK, you can even work in the fluff that they get all the males. We already had an alliance in Harrowdeep, so just make it official. Then you've got Morathi(Pretending to be Khaine, but a Real Goddess) vs Kerusa(Worshipping the Old Gods) vs Prophet of the Deep(Worshipping the Idoneth people). Sprinkle in the fact that Morathi is the oldest elf(WHF) and the Idoneth king is the oldest elf(AoS) for a neat comparison.

>Unsoup
Chaos Marauders. Let's you split Chaos into t-shirt saves vs big boys in armor. Belakor gets the t-shirt saves he can easily manipulate, Archaon gets the hardliners. Rework the Wilderfiends as an alternate ascension path compared to Daemon Prince. One is a direct chain(Chaos Warrior-Chosen-Chaos Lord/Wizard-Varanguard-Daemon Prince) while the other is a pool(Chaos Marauder-Conan Lads-Chief-Wilderfiend), with the alternate end to either being Spawndom.

>most 40k army in 40k
>complete abandon ware next to drukhari
While I won’t say I dislike gsc, currently they kinda cockblock traitor guard from being a range in 40k, so they kinda earn some ire from me there. Also I think they’re kinda bankrupt on what to add to the faction beyond more hero’s. I don’t have an opinion on idoneth other than I want to rape a Namarti and maybe see slime girls take hold in its range.

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>>97863534
>unsoup chaos marauders

>>97863158
>No one even knows what an incarnate is

you're really outing yourself here. go back to your shithole thread

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None of my armies really benefit from being de-soup'd or even really soup'd.

>BoK
>CoS
>KO

I guess seeing Cities focus more on the gap between the Zenestra and Tahlia crusades would be cool? One more focused on Priests, altars, flagellants, and "manifestations" like Khorne. Tahlia can be more Ironweld Guild and generic soldier stuff.

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I'm glad BoC went to ToW. At least their players appreciate them unlike AoS fanboys. For some reason like half the people (and they've posted armies) in the Fantasy general play Beastmen. They are by far the most popular 4chan army for ToW.

>>97863823
you've done this exact same bit with this exact same picture like once every 3 weeks.

>>97862693
They look cool too, based on 1eart. Like all jagged and sleak to contrast with round KO designs

>>97863823
Yeah, TOW is the furry containment game, we know.

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How's Tzeentch play this edition?

Is the new Warhammer Quest broken? I heard that some boss fights are unbeatable and there are missions that you depends on rng to be able to have a chance at beating it.

Was it that bad? I kind want the new Nurgle models and be able to play a dungeon crawler but Kinda worried about its playability.

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Armies for this feel?

>>97864126
All of chaos is satanic

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>>97864104
>I heard that some boss fights are unbeatable
Git Gud

>>97863550
I don't think it's a good idea to be clear but I thibk darkoath as a subrange would benefit from being allowed to have actually elite units, instead of those being relegated to chaos warriors. I know it doesn't make any sense lorewise since y'know that's what chaos warriors are, but they're so different in aesthetics it's difficult to make that connection just based on looks.

>>97864245
There’s just too much chaos stuff to begin with, I get your point but that’s a box that’s better off unopened. It’s still absurd that beastmen are still separate army rather than an auxiliary of slaves to darkness/ warriors of chaos.

>>97864126
Qohor in the asoiaf game?

>>97862514
>Sun counterpart
Gitmob worship the bad moon

>>97864350
You would never know it to look upon them though, which I think is what anon was getting at

hel-LO, /AOSG/, how are you all this fine night? good? we been spending the day productive, talking about the game and our models, and not responding to TOWTRANNIES and SECONDARIES, right? yes? good! hopefully we also avoided talking about rumors incessantly right? good!

then im GLAAAD we all had a good day here! has anyone gotten any painting done? i worked on my plaguepack today!

>>97864358
Just ignore everything about them and yeah I'd say they worship Sigmar and should be in SCE too

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>>97863823

>>97864386
I think the way they tied them to the wider gsg themes lorewise is actually not half bad (the sun "bullies" the bad moon which they hate for doing so, but because goblins are cunts they also kind of respect it for it), but they completely neglected to do so with the actual models.
Gloomspite has a VERY strong core theme with y'know caves and mushrooms and the moon and spiders and other associated creepy crawlies, but then here you have wolf/steppe/badlands/sun chariot guys. They only really share the goblins (and even then they look quite different), everything else is almost diametrically opposed. It's a shame because I do actually like gitmob visually they just don't mesh with the rest of the army (and are wayyy too expensive...)

>>97864391
It's clearly anti grav chainmail.

>>97864391
To play the devils advocate, the shoulder does have a small tint of copper, smeared in grime

>>97864304
Just say got unc

>>97864384
Waiting on some ebay eels myself.
Y'know speaking of rumours, there's a new guy speaking in cryptic messages over on tga, real javgoro type.

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>>97863823
>Lines, obviously, conjured by the camera, mere imperfections of the lens.

>>97864518
Surely this is not the same guy

>>97862901
while that's the safest way to handle them, it creates an asymmetry between the lumineth and the umbraneth, that asymmetry could only be resolved by giving the sylvaneth to the lumineth, but everyone knows and accepts 3 groups of elves already, so if sylvaneth stay separate then idoneth must either stay separate or join them in a book that exemplifies the third party from the light/dark dichotomy, and an alliance of land and sea as the ultimate "nature army"

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Progress on my hobgrots. Got the first 5 models mostly done save for some details and the bases.
I'm glad these can be done rather fast. Means I won't hate myself after painting all 20.

>>97864559
Big brain solution: namarti go to umbraneth, akhelians go to lumineth

>>97864386
Yeh, fag, they clearly qorship the Bad Moon, the semi-mongolian theme and those gigiantic suns slapped in every model screams "Moon" so loud and clear... Oh and how well they fit with the rest of Gloomspite Gitz, lile a pair made in heaven *chef kiss*

how crazy would be bring boc back to aos?

>>97864609
we can't possibly split the idoneth

>>97864640
Not much, all they need is a new Xtreme twist and morghur already provided one by having everything revolve around spawns and mutations dialed to 11 instead of simplers goatmen.
10 years from now, they might actually come back.

>>97864625
Anon I think you two are agreeing
>>97864666
I would prefer more varied normal beastmen (i.e. rhinos and shit) instead of muh mutation beastmen, if they ever come back.

Why has this thread gotten so slow? Did a bunch of FUDs literally just insta-quit at the very first tentative hint they might not love the 5e lore?

>>97864713
>fud
What?
Either way, we're back to pre rumours / adepticon speed. I think it comes down to 4th just not being very exciting to talk about, like you can't really have much in the way of listbuilding discussion for example. Also in general this board continues to bleed activity.

>>97864713
did you miss the weeks of uninterrupted discord raids?

>>97864713
Less troll and TOWorlders, thank god.

>>97864732
>>fud
>What?
It's crypto retard speak, an acronym of "fear uncertainty doubt". Basically naysayers or skeptics or people who bail out.

>>97864733
>>97864736
Feels like there are fewer active contributers too. But yes the board in general is bleeding users. I just didn't expect to feel such a difference on the order of a few months.

>>97864640
No one likes Goats.

>>97864787
When this thread is not getting raided or shitposted to death it's usually fairly slow, stop doomposting

>>97861769
This is a poor replacement for Soon posting.

>>97862104
Except they didn't immediately follow him, it took a fucking second HE civil war and former gud boi Tyrion going fucking insane to convince the remaining elves to follow him reluctantly (including the sinking of their homeland and athel loren, now controlled by his also reluctant wife the everqueen, to be the only safe place left

>>97864575
The skin looks pretty nice for a quick job.
Recipe?

>>97864713
The rumors were very explosive so it got a ton of traffic, now everyone onto NEXT THING so it slowed down to the pre rumors 'this edition sucks dick, fuck this' levels of apathy. It will start again when we get a GHB, then die down after it's solved in a month

>>97864832
I can't imagine any kind of seasonal shake-up that would make me care about either of my armies again right now. A couple new war scrolls ain't gonna do it for me.

>>97864804
This board has been undeniably on the decline for the past few years though, we're at like, what, 1/4th? of the activity of 10 years ago

>>97864827
It's just an army painter "sand dune" (or similar, can't remember the exact name) basecoat with some slightly thinner reikland fleshshade washed over it.
Kinda gives it that yellow, sickly flesh look I'm trying to create for them.

>>97862055
Because I really don't paint. But my opponent had a fully painted army.

>>97864868
Well it looks good dude

>>97862055
Kek

>>97864904
> I don't paint
Gross. Please leave the AoS community

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>>97864713
>Why has this thread gotten so slow?

>>97864575
Decent, but the top right has a visable connection point between the body and head bit

>>97864925
Post painted models then.

>>97864713
I think the board in general has slowed down a bit since the '10s. People are using other sites to funpost about traditional games.

>>97864804
The idea of it being "discord raided" is deeply schizophrenic. About as schizo as thinking the "fuck 40gay" or "fuck games wokeslop" dudes on /tg/ are some kind of united and coordinated terrorist group. There are just randos on here who hate certain things (and AoS probably has a higher percentage of haters than most games do).

>>97864713
The average Polack isn't off work yet so they haven't made our day worse yet.

>>97864947
Is this zoomers' fault??

>>97864997
Nah the rest of the internet became like this site. People used to come to say edgy things or radical opinions anonymously now they say the same shit with their full legal name on facebook and twitter.

>>97864904
As someone who hates painting personally, you gotta at least try to paint them.
>t. 60% greytide lizards

>>97864984
>he wasn't around where a retard forgot he already downloaded the group spam folder and had (1) in all file names

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>>97865007
Sharty is the actual edgy 4chan from Internet Historian normie stories with raids, doxxes and hackers.
You're more free to say slurs on X than on here.

>>97865009
>greytide lizards
come on nigga you can literally just slap some contrast and drybrush most of your lizards and they'll look good

>>97865011
That was a funny one
Wish I could find it but too generic for thr archives probably

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Athelwyrd. Home.

>>97865059
ghyran truly is the worst realm to live in

>>97865067
I feel like ulgu would be. Shadows lies and deception must be annoying day in and day out.

>>97865029
Honestly my big bottleneck has been having kids, I don't have the space to paint with three kids running around.

>>97864973
I have multiple times. I don't have to dance to your faggot paintlet tune.

>>97865067
What you tell me about Shysh? Would you be willing to be over the fucking egomaniac controlling death and with a really awful humor sense?

>>97865096
Sure thing lil bro

>>97865067
Ghyran strikes me as one of the comfier places desu, aside from azyr. Ghur has gotta be the shittiest. Literally just ghyran but worse.

Wosrt realms
>Ghur
>Ulgu
>Chaos
Best Realms
>Ghyran
>Azyr
>Hysh

>>97865146
> P post models
> Doesn't post his own PAINTED models in the post to challenge
Lol not how it works 'lil bro' maybe lurk MOAR?

>>97865157
>>97865170
I mean on the other hand what the fuck is going on in azyr that all these dawners are just lining up to be sent to die fighting whatever horrors the realms throw at them this week

Why is GW squatting both AoS and TOW?

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>>97864915
Thanks my man, I'm glad it's alright for a quick and dirty job.
>>97864965
Honestly, it's fine to me. The cannon fodder models aren't my main focus in this army, I just want some paint on them so they can look pretty on the table alongside the real stuff. I've been trying to go all out on the rest of my army.

>>97865379
Totally greg victory.

(My name is greg)

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>>97865384
I had to double check recently since I popped over my FLGS recently to pick up some models from a dude with purple chorfs (I got a pic from their battle report) and had to double check if it was you anon. Still love the purple dorfs.

Also for any anons following my constant bitching, this is in fact that annoying DoK army that I struggle to beat because it's just all snakes and Morathi.

>>97865281
Azyr is actually nice to live in. The Dawnbringer crusades happen because of the need to take the realms back from chaos. People go on them because wither they have no other options, take this other than punishment for a crime, or just doing it because they want ancestral homes back, or maybe think its just the right thing to do.

>>97865392
Hi greg

>>97865392
Why?

>>97865408
Hey man, I just wanted everyone to know that while I'm sad AOS and TOW are going away it's been personally very good for me, I don't mean to imply as though I hate you guys it's just kinda been good for me personally. Stay safe out there folks.

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>>97865399
Hell yeah dude, always nice to see another person with with good taste. Purple works so well for the chorfs.

>>97865424
I feel bad, he got face rolled by those fucking snakes. But dude is really nice, he was the one who just gave me 3 warcry warbands for free. My local community is so god damn cool.

>>97865433
Shame, I keep hearing HoH aren't that good. I've currently only got 2 games with them in spearhead (that's all I have painted so far aside from characters), 1 loss against rats and 1 victory against lizards.
my local AoS scene is almost non-existent it's so small...

>>97865439
>I keep hearing HoH aren't that good
I've heard them described as a "fair army" which effectively means they're gonna get trounced by all the bullshit in the game. They're well balanced, which is meaningless in the realm of skew lists and god models.

>>97865446
Makes sense, good thing I'm here for the models and not The rules

>>97865446
Hate when that happens.

>>97865399
Damn no kidding that's a lot of snakes. I see like 30 there?

>>97865424
Churadin as based and its kinda nice to fight a gun line army

>>97865677
Yeah, she runs like 30 snakes and Morathi, I've fought the army a few times but the main issue being Morathi since I play mostly Death factions and can't really "ping" her easily without letting her blend entire units every turn. Also strike last devastates my shit. It's a solid list, someday I hope to beat it.

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soon...

>>97865446
After fighting them multiple times I'd say I agree. They are an army that plays by the rules like Stormcast. But those armies have to deal with peoples shenanigans. They do good damage and can be pretty tanky but when their shooting gets stuck in melee they struggle hard.

>>97865742
If only... Silent People, Grotbag Scuttlers, Root Kings, Deadwalkers, Umbraneth... AoS has plenty of good concepts yet people talks about Not!Nippon, Not!Bretonnia that's crazy to me.

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>>97865733
I'll never forget a single mancrusher fighting Shadow Queen and surviving to keep her pinned as I crushed those snake blobs.

>>97865767
I remember Ushorann went like 3 combat rounds with her and survived at exactly one health before dying at the third.

But god damn a mancrusher living, did ya give him a little bit to honor that moment?

>>97865748
Don't worry anon, Cities of Sigmar will get 10 more generic human units and Lumineth will get 20 more generic high elf units!

>>97865776
the cities of sigmar stuff coming out soon looks sick as fuck though

>>97865773
He received new bits to properly mark out his sacrifice. Ush is the one the few things that can stand up to her in a protracted fight but I'll always say if Morathi is on the field throw chaff at her. Its not worth her time to be killing a 150 point unit she costs too much for that. Throw mortals or shooting at her to get that 3 damage a turn limit then ignore/block her kill the snakes they are the ones getting points and throwing hella attacks.

>>97865748
Now hear me out. Not!Nippon but it's Silent People.

>>97865852
Actually with the new book you can just outright kill her, they got rid of that annoying as fuck "3 damage a turn" bit. She can just be resurrected from babby morathi now though and the tiny and big one don't share a health pool.

>>97865742
Silent People would be so hype for me because
1.They're bugs
2. They'd be the first 100% new-new AoS faction with no ties to anything from Fantasy
But alas it would never happen

>>97865074
I read somewhere that in Ulgu you can walk into the wrong place and just forget how to breathe and die
The mortal realms are a nightmarish collection of shitholes

>>97865887
I saw I am excited to see how that plays I feel like the best way around it is to kill both in the same turn to prevent their respawn. But it's great that shadow queen has to fear hammers now.

>>97865939
It's a weird spot to be in for Morathi, the rez makes her better again annoying piddly ping lists, but being able to smash her with gargants does make me very happy. The concept of only taking limited damage is neat but holy fuck, in practice fighting against it is positively miserable if you're playing say monster mash or heavy melee. (AKA most of what I play since I'm sitting with gargs and FEC.)

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>>97865873
Ok, but the silent people are actually extinct and it's just humans that don the armours and masks of the silent people and get fused with them as a result
the extinct silent people of ghur were in turn another people that got fused more and more over time with the exoskeletal relics of a previous race, and it turns out this cycle of relics shedding, extinction and new symbiotic metamorphosis is just how the TRVE bug people existed and keep on existing, all inexplicably linked to the living mountain hives like the beastgrave and not!nippon's not!mount fujo

>>97865748
aos has absolutely no specific concept for most of those things

Crazy how GW continues to sell Darkwater as if it isn’t completely broken and requires house rules to actually finish a campaign. No wonder the lead designer quit after it was revealed

>>97866024
have you played it?
do you know anyone who has played it?

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It looks like boole is using another sockpuppet account to throw cryptic shit at the rumour threads under the name of "Prince of Stolen Breaths".

Nothing big, but supposedly the new hammerhal ghyra will have a hippocampus as heraldic symbol, and the ven denst and maybe gardus are part of the final campaign.

>>97865379
Because it cannot support two separate fantasy settings. Those printers need to be printing marines.

>>97866024
Wow you watched that youtube video too? Crazy.

>>97866089
>>97866024
Tldr?

>>97866152
just some guy bitching about warhammer quest being a shit game, though I don't know anyone who's buying it for the game and not just because it's a big box of plastic to paint.

>>97866089
Lel, reminds me of that one guy that always posts those lord of war videos to stir shit
>>97866152
Youtuber made a video about how darkwater is terribly playtested, some encounters are mathematically impossible without certain heroes, shit like that.

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>>97866182
IT'S OUT

>>97866190
Ogre youtube

>>97866160
There are people who unironically play warhammer quest games on purpose, also boardgameoids are real (scary i know).

>>97866342
I mean more power to them, I enjoy some good board game shit. Tbh I got all the new quests it's just nigh impossible to convince a group of people to sit their asses down. Just like in general.

>>97866342
>Boardgameoids are real
Funny enough, my LGS is only composed of wargamers and board gamers. Card gamers go and stink up another store in town. It's pretty surreal seeing how many families and friend groups will actually sit down and just play a regular board game in the store. We actually struggle with table space for Warhammer sometimes because of all the groups.

>>97866418
Man I wish. All 3 games within reasonable distance of me are card games central. Great for finding random deals in the back somewhere, but finding games is another matter.

>>97866418
NTA. God, I’m jealous. It’s the opposite for me where most of the stores are card gamers and there’s hardly any Warhammer players without traveling a good distance.

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A bit of writing from the new light mage dude

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>>97862226
>lumies and idoneths cannot be together though
Same way you just made an excuse for that bullshit is the same way you'll make another when GW says "they're one army now".

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>>97866479
It spites me on a visceral level that sylvaneth don't have a unit of spite courtiers.

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Also some crunchy stuff for narrative play.

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>>97866554

Who approved these fucking ads man lmao sfw my ass
>>97866054
>gardus
Huh, sure, why not

>>97866603
Use an adblocker like a normal person

>>97866603
All the ads i see is jsut Hiro begging someone to buy the ad space

>>97866615
I'm phoneposting at the moment

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Need more horns on helmets

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How customizable is the Tzaangor Shaman kit? I know it doesn't have any options, but is it easy enough to just replace a couple parts with spares from other Tzaangor kits to get a unique Tzaangor Shaman?

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>>97867127
Looking at the sprue it seems easy enough to do a weapon or head swap. Beyond that you'll probably need to sculpt a bit.

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Left the hobby for about 1.5 years and thinking about getting back in. Considering starting with Spearhead and painting up a Chaos Dwarf army.

How is AoS at 2000 points these days? Is it fun, or is 40k still the better system?

At my current painting pace I’ll probably get a full game in sometime in 2027, but I’m still tempted to start again.

>>97867161
nice. That should be enough to make two Shamans not look clonestamped.

Thanks!

>>97867180
4th edition is widely considered terrible, I would avoid getting into it and wait for 5th. Or see if you can find a community locally playing 3rd or even 2nd and start an army for that.

>>97867268
When will 5 arrive?
Is Chaos dwarfs a good choice or should i swap for nurgle/skaven?

>>97867268
4th ed AoS feels too watered down compared to previous editions.
If you lean towards competitive play, prefer to stick to a handful of good lists while avoiding pet units and fluff, you might find some enjoyment out of it.
Wouldn't bet on 5th ed though. Judging by how GW treated Horus Heresy, AoS won't be fixed or improved in next edition. Instead it will just be different

>>97867309
Nurgle.
Skaven are so fucking ass in 4th

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Mega Gargant or Treelord?

>>97867451
None.

>>97867309
June/july next year if the pattern holds. Do recommend spearhead as a way to ease yourself back into things, it's the one shining light in an otherwise quite polarising edition.
>>97867451
>50+ bought in past months

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>>97867180
I'm brand new to 4th so I'll give my opinions here, it's fine. Most of the books have been either changing absolutely nothing or a nerfs, there's been a few diamonds in the rough but realistically it's been pretty same. I've enjoyed what I've played though, from what I can tell this shit is exponentially easier to get into than 40k.

New GHB isn't half bad, at least they make the standing on circles a bit more interesting with some fun shenanigans. (The map that sucks your dudes into portals and spits them out onto another spot is pretty funny) You'll go insane having to read the phrase "Deal D3 damage" as like every bonus effect ever. Balancing is fiiiiiiiine but skew lists and spamming one unit work a bit better than I'd generally like, endless spells and terrain being free is neat but admittedly I feel like the power level had to be reduced on them due to that and from what I hear there used to be generic spell schools you could tap into and that sounds way better.

Generic foot heroes are fucking garbo and have nearly no customization. (Well they do, if you play Path to Glory) 2k points is fine but I think spearhead is a fun way to start off and see if you really gel with how things function. I'll tell you the same thing I told purple chorf anon earlier, Chorfs aren't particularly good, they're not bad they're just bog standard. Cool models though, but you're not gonna be winning a lot of games unless you play very well or your opponent fucks it up.

TLDR; Games fine, a bit basic and some of the choices are bland and annoying but if you wanna play some warhammer it's fun enough.

>>97867161
Wow I really wouldn't want to paint those lines on the disc

>>97867615
That's tzeentch for ya.

Rolled 10, 4, 4, 1 = 19 (4d10)

>>97866559
Rollin for Nurgle hero + RoR name

>>97867684
Maggola Gutwrithe, leading The Greenriver Host

What are some unique faction or GA effects that could be added to the game to spice things up from the million "+D3 damage" shit we have now? Obviously bring back the Chaos Mutations table from the real old days for Chaos. Roll some dice, get some mutation effects, run the risk of some of your units turning into Chaos Spawn if you roll too much. Sounds like a great time if you're not a tournyfag

>>97867718
How did squig culo become such a thing

>>97867765
I'd enjoy movement effects, maybe a charge effect where you knock a foot hero around and if they slam into terrain they take damage based on how far they moved. That'd be fun for destroy with all the big heavy guys.

Death maybe having an effect wherein when they kill units they bring back units equal to like... half the models that died or something. If not I wouldn't mind maybe like "gaze of Nagash" so if you're fighting another army they have to make a roll of whatever in order to bring units back.

Order I wouldn't mind if there was more ability to have other units in other armys, having "soup" in the sense that you could kinda do a Be'lakor styled thing of bringing lists of mixed forces. (Would solve the cities of sigmar problem of them removing all the other races) Maybe just add like, the racism debuff from blood bowl.

And Chaos, I'd really like it if I could charge an enemy, then roll a d6, and on a 3+ I deal d3 damage.

>>97865379
TOW as well ? I didn't hear about this rumor; is it true or are you just trolling ?

>>97863823
I think GW has rules barring models like these for tourneys and competitions

>>97867801
never doubts the power of the average 4channer's degeneracy

>>97867309
You’re a long way away from 5th. Probably go Skaven as they will be the safer bet in 5th.

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I finally brokedown and ordered the Warpflame Cavalcade box. Finding a cool conversion idea that uses extra bits from the Kairos kit pushed me over the edge

Although that conversion idea uses a kit that costs as much as the Lord of Change kit so it doesn't actually save any money lol

>>97868416
I'm surprised this box sold so poorly considering how good value it is, and that it can be used in AoS, TOW and 40k.

>>97868443
I guess, outside the LoC it's very old models, they're Legacy in TOW with clue when or if they'll become Core, and god only knows what will happen to Daemons in 40k. But even still, it's a fantastic box

If they did boxes like it for the other gods I'd buy them all.

>>97868416
I strongly considered it but theres nothing really much about the tzeentch sculpts that leave me creatively inspired

>>97868416
I really want that box. Man. Ended up buying the Thousand Sons battleforce instead.

>>97868498
...I may have bought both

2026 is my year of Tzeentch, I guess

>>97868540
I might grab it in May, if it is "cheap" still. I barely even play but love the designs and want to paint demons.

Out of respect for TLW reboot announcement I enacted a unilateral ceasefire regarding HoH flopposting. Which was extended through Easter in honor of the holiday. Soon the ceasefire ends and I will resume asking why the HoH flopped. Consider this a gentlemanly warning.

>>97868540
If Daemons are your thing more power to you. I myself prefer tzaangors,

>>97868573
For a gentleman you sure do reek of someone who needs womanly validation

>>97864104
There are scenarios that rules as written can not be defeated by every combination of heroes. There are more that are just statistically unlikely.

>and there are missions that you depends on rng to be able to have a chance at beating it.

That's true for all of them. You roll to move and to fight, so there's no set of choices that will let you win if you roll consistently bad. I don't think that in itself is a design flaw though. It's a dice based game.
Olden demon on yt made a review of it recently that also had some recommended fixes.
Get it for the plastic if you like the look of them and don't expect too much from the game. I hope to get some on the cheap once they've gathered enough dust on shelves, every store seem to have a surplus of them where I am.

>>97867578

Is the lack of customisation really that big of an issue? In a game like tow that supposedly has a lot of that, some item choices are clearly superior to others, which are then never used at all.

>>97869096
Only if you are an soulless Waac-fag who doesn't consider weaker items for flavor and fun reasons.

>>97869116
Not a justifiable reason. Items genuinely don’t matter unless I can justify modeling it onto my model, otherwise I’ll take what’s good and ignore what’s bad.

>>97869129
So you are an soulless waac-fag. Good for you admitting it.

>>97869135
There is no “soul” in picking options that are pre existing, if you want this “soul” in your game then they should be something you can make yourself so that there is some actual attachment to it and not some glossed over shit like “demon kings sword” which gets ignored over for a peasants knife

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>like CoS aesthetic
>horde army with lots of details
>expensive
>likely hard to transport with their model count too

Any anons wanna redpill me on CoS? My main concern is painting them. Even though I have a 3d printer it will be tedious to print the steelhelms and cav I will need anyway. The cogfort looks really sweet but I'm not confident in my monster painting skills and I know it will cost an arm and a leg. The cav is okay but I much prefer the command corps, infantry and powder units. The fusil ogre is sweet too.

I also have a Lumi spearhead that I've painted a few guys from to dip my does into them.

>>97869143
Sounds like you're already redpilled on cos, I'm not sure what else there is to tell you. They're relatively horde-y, but with a fuckton of detail and fairly expensive, no way around that. Maybe the new wave will allow you to go more elite with the cogfort, gargants, gallants, etc.
You've got a printer so you could sidestep the expensive part, though I don't know anything about how tedious of a process it is.
Could also look into finding a box of old empire spearmen or greatswords to function as steelhelms, will be cheaper per model and easier to paint (if you don't mind their monkey faces).

For ogres, if I have 140 points, is it better to give tyrant Everwinter trait and take gnoblars or try taking a drunk giant?

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>>97869143

You could also buy Victrix miniatures and proxy them as steelhelms and cavaliers. They sell fantasy upgrade packs.

>>97869384
They’d probably be cool as halflings

>>97869373
I don't know what's better but taking a drunk giant is certainly cooler

>>97869143
>like CoS aesthetic
Buy at full MSRP. You deserve it.

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>>97869143
>like CoS aesthetic

>>97869479
This range really makes you appreciate different manufacturers.

>>97869479
This? This is sovl

>>97869479
it's just like me!

>>97869479
every steelhelm in the kit should've been an ugly fat bastard like this

>>97867180
Pointed match is really bad, Spearhead is really good.
So if you want to fight with armies then probably wait for 5e; if you like mid-size skirmish "boardgamified" games then have fun with it.

>>97869479
This guy is kino though, some bumbling retard who picked up a stick.
But damn do I hate those bibs.

>>97869531
Do you also like the contemporary state troopers?

>>97869547
Meh not a fan but don't hate them either. The previous ones were far better.
Cos is supposed to be a cobbled together force of village retards sent out to die (at least the steelhelm are), while empire state troops are supposed to be professional soldiers, so their dishevelled look is weird, whereas it fits the steelhelms. Though thinking about it steelhelms are better equipped than state troops, nobody is out there missing shoes and shit.

>>97869143
>hard to transport
They're all quite thick with even the thinnest details are thicker than most other models

I like boots

>>97869479
I want this guy for my Mordheim Witch Hunters made from AoS models.

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>>97869560
Yeah, that kinda nails why I can't stand them. They're supposed to be crusader pilgrims, whom are exactly as you described: random fanatical retards. However steelhelms all use hand-weapon instead of more improvised weapons or even a simpler one like a spear.
However then they couldn't be the "wall" of this giant larp army.

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>>97869575
Another issue how they're all fat cunts. They're poorly cared for peasants with missing teeth, how did they get to be miniature versions of 40k players?
Contrast them to the Cathayan peasants, whom look like dudes pulled out of the rice fields with simple cheap weapons wrangled around by an old respect retired veteran.

>>97869575
Mhm I get where you're coming from but I think it makes some sense for their equipement to be as standardized as it since that's mass produced in azyr and the free cities. The steelhelms themselves are the bumbling fanatics, but the equipment is relatively solid.
Although to be clear I don't even like steelhelms, the poses are weird and like I said I hate the bibs, but I don't think the retard faces and beer bellies are the problem, in fact they're the fun part.
I've been toying with the idea of starting cos since I do really like some of the new stuff, but it'd have to be a very greenstuff heavy project. File away the bibs, maybe sculpt some chainmail on the steelhelm to form a coif, that sort of stuff. I gotta practice some more though, don't think I could pull it off with my current skill level.
But yeah I fully understand why someone would be averse to the CoS renaissance fantasy aesthetic.

>>97869479
>picking one of the most liked recent glup shitto models to try to claim "thing bad"

>>97869610
Glup shitto is the old black lady who's actually a skelington.

>>97869578
>Contrast them to the Cathayan peasants, whom look like dudes pulled out of the rice fields
Yellow fever detected. Not all Asians men comport with what you find personally attractive.

Kinda wish prosecutors still used parchment over tactical rocks to stand on

>>97869479
isn't this the big guy from mwg?

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>>97864575
Didn't expect it but I actually got those and another 5 hobgrotz done last night. The bases aren't "done" per say, because I still need to airbrush the lava glow, but I'm waiting until all 20 are done to do that and then the rims.

>>97868573
everyone has your shitty ritualpost filtered already, gotenigger

>>97869628
Wasn't that notoriously fragile or am I confusing things ?

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>>97869470
I'm sorry anon but I can't tell if you're being ironic or not. It's not that I can't afford to buy it all at MSRP but I would feel like a massive chump/retard for not being patient and CONSOOMING. Proxying, printing, and buying cheap discounted listings would probably save me a couple hundred USD.

>>97869479
But I actually like this guy. He's a big fatass with a spiked club. The bald guy with the big jug of moonshine already has a guaranteed spot if I ever build an ironweld cannon.

>>97869745
He's calling you a tastelet anon
>pic
How does that even happen

>>97869760
They're model kits. You buy them because you enjoy building them and there's no timeframe associated with it.
>NOOOO YOU IMMEDIATELY HAVE TO UTILISE WHAT YOU'VE PURCHASED!
>MUH HECKIN HOBBY GOALARINOS I'D HAVE SO MANY UPVOTES POSTING MY HOBBY PROGRESS ON THIS!
It's like camping equipment. I bought an axe for bushcraft. I'd like to try it when I camp next. I haven't went camping this year. I'm not stressing about the value my £59 would have yielded if I instead invested it or it I bought something of immediate benefits.

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>wooden imps with tails and beaks
We never did get models for those.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qrwbuq7f/warhammer-art-through-the-years-sylvaneth/

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>>97869795
Not sure who the artist is for this. Might be Mikhail Savier, but I'm not sure. It's the same one they got for the OBR spread.

>>97869787
I too enjoy the model equivalent of paying money for a slop commission.

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>>97869795
wood

>>97869795
Those are Spites arn't they?

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Managed to snag up this bad boy, hell yeah

>>97869849
Nice. The skelies are the best models of the set imo. Have fun anon

>>97869848
Spites, dryads, whatever. They're little creatures having a good time.

>>97869787
>It's like camping equipment. I bought an axe for bushcraft. I'd like to try it when I camp next. I haven't went camping this year. I'm not stressing about the value my £59 would have yielded if I instead invested it or it I bought something of immediate benefits.
I'd raise an eyebrow if you bought 50 of those axes and never went camping once though

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>>97868935
...I may have also used some store credit at my LGS to order the Spearhead as well

>>97869849
I wonder when will vargheists get replaced?

>>97869872
there are bigger concerns in death

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>>97869872
I really hope they replace it with a three man Vargskyr kit

Ideally with Troggoth level extra bits so you can have a bunch of unique ones

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Tower of Blades stuff from WD. I'm personally surprised by how much of it there is.

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>>97869890
What are they?

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>>97869898
I'd prefer if it was more Avengori, they need more love and vapms lost to their inner beast is perfect for them.

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>>97869932
Done. I think you could have fun with this for a few weekend afternoons out of this, easily.

>>97869928
Getting a new faction

>>97869933
What's the current division anyway; vyrkos, nulahmia, von carstein, avengorii, and kastelai?
Most of the range is either vyrkos themed (cursed city rejects, arguably the skellies too) or generic pseudo-gothic which is closely aligned to von carstein. Nulahmia has two or three characters, kastelai the blood dragons (not kastelai exclusive I think but closely aligned in theme) and vhordrai, and then avengorii is just the centaur lord/character. A three man monster type unit for the vengorians would be nice yeah.

How Likely is it that cathay will come to Aos? I love the minis but fucking no one plays tow in my area.

>>97869928
hexwraiths and terrorgheist carrying dead weight in their kits from units that were updated separately
arkhan's kit having to be shared with the vampire mortarchs
nighthaunts not being allowed to have a unique scenery of their own nor to use the mortis engine
the crypt horrors kit being the one thing holding up the unit diversity of fec
ossiarchs looking like shit

>>97869959
Just proxy them as lumineth or cities. Maybe that rumoured mongol-esque faction will work too

>>97869959
proxy them as cos, retard

>>97869932
Disappointing they didn't kitbash those

>>97869959
I Mena they can just bring them as a CoS that worships Dragothion

>>97869959
I feel like everything is a bit up in the air right now and it will probably be a long while before we can be certain of where everything will settle once next edition lands. Cathay's TOW model line definitely will not be supported in AoS, but whether there will come a new army resembling it is hard to say for sure. Your best bet might be to proxy Cathay models for CoS units until further notice.

>>97869984
I wonder if it's going to be sanctioned kitbashes like TOW gets. Hard to imagine GW doing that though.

>>97869959
Hopefully fucking never. I bear no hate for tow but Cathay is extremely fucking boring model wise. I’m hoping the rumored Mongolian faction can do something with Chinese humans to something that’s actually sauced up.
>>97869974
Issue with that is he probably won’t have the ability to proxy the new gallants or grenadiers unless he’s doing the 40k bit where he’s calling a jade sentinel a gargant shield bearer or whatever they’re called

>>97870012
That's not a problem, that's a kitbashing challenge!

>>97870033
No one who likes Cathay is going to kitbash.

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>>97870041
I actually have seen some cool Cathay conversions

>>97870044
>posts goonhammers sponsored demonstration
I’ve seen Albert Einstein doesn’t mean I can impregnate your mama with a genius either dumbo.