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>>97885822
>TQ
I only played the intro game twice with the starter set at the start of 4th. It was not what I would call a game you can play over a lunch break, maybe a Spaniards definition of a lunch break, but it’s certainly at least played much better than kill team, and the set up time wasn’t as awful as boarding patrol.

Haven't paid much attention to it beyond that, but I’ll admit if they continue to release vs boxes like city of ash in the future I will be interested. The mat alone is quite atmospheric, though I hope they innovate with the terrain, fucking gooner town has better proxies for that that fit more.

>>97885841
That’s not the image I wanted to post but fuck it I’ll just stick with it.

>>97885841
the difference between the art and the actual model of the magma dragon always makes me laugh

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>>97885905
there are multiple artworks of it

>>97885824
I think it comes down to 40k-esque "sloptuber reading a wiki page" culture. The funny thing is aos actually rarely retcons stuff, most of the time they just write things in and out of the lore. For example new cities of sigmar look like that now because of this or that invention, the standard colour scheme got changed because it got changed *in-universe*, or bonesplitterz and boc getting an in-universe explanation for their squatting.

>>97885822
>TQ
Back in 2024, I've split a skaventide box with a buddy. We managed to get a first game about 2-3 weeks afterward. Was fun, but stormcast box felt a little bit weak. Felt like you just had to rush the opponents strongest units to compensate for your warband being too small.
Afterwards we played more games. I bought some units on second hand to build other spearhead bands, while he stuck with the one he got from the box.
Unfortunately, non of my other buddies are interested in the game due to how basic it is.
Saw one of my lgs host spearhead games every week so I might check that out.
My personal gripe about spearhead would have to be that ability/tactic cards being hidden breeds gotcha moments, that I AoS isn't supposed to have unless your opponent is a prick.

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What's everyone working on? What'd you get done this weekend?

Post some models, gentlemen.

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>>97885822
>TQ
I've only played 3 games of spearhead due to the length of time it's taken me to paint my models, and they've all been blasts.
One fun story was the end of this game I had against my buddy's seraphon as I was teaching him and another friend how to play (we're all familiar with 40k and are branching out).
We had an extremely close game, lots of back and forth with my models usually being fodder to hold back lizards and steal objectives and points, with some fun moments like my bull living against his t-rex with 1 wound, and slapping back and killing it the next turn with full DPP being spent to do so.
The final turn had me scoring the absolute maximum points I could in 1 turn, getting all 3 objective points and then miraculously being able to score all 3 of my battle tactics for the round, flipping the game and scoring me the win by 1 point. All 3 of us at the table were so excited seeing it go down.

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>>97885973
The aforementioned t-rex vs bull fight. The beefy lizards made short work of the infernal cohort and slew the bull afterwards.

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>>97885961
Finished my manifestations last week. There’s a good chance I’ll start my Calligrave and Lord Regent tonight.

>>97886000
Absolutely stunning work, man. How long did the color transitions on those crystals take? Looks so tedious but the results are gorgeous.

>>97886068
Thanks. They took less than an evening each, but I kinda had to restart on the lighter one because my initial basecoat was too dark, basically the darkest color on the facet. It was actually kinda fun and less tedious because they were just flat surfaces. To put it into perspective, the glazing on the runes for the sanctum took me longer to do.

>>97885841
>monstrous arcanum
Vgh...
I wonder what kind of bullshit forgeworld would've released if it was still around and the team wasn't redirected towards their own games. Idoneth whale? Random resin stormcast characters? That one bigass kharadron ship? We would've gotten the cogfort a lot earlier, that's for sure.

>>97886104
I doubt GW would ever bother to do dedicated AoS models. Everything we got was either 40k or WHF leftovers.

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>>97885911
Doesn't save the sculpt from looking like a kids toy

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>>97886165
>
>inb4 he was supposed to be tamurkhan's brother

>>97886174
everything's gonna look like a kids toy anon, it's a goofy fantasy game

>>97886197
nta but different gradations
see also the fisher price asarnil dragon

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>>97886232
I had one of these things recently, some guy had dumped his entire WHF collection off at my store. I didn't know the wings were plastic.

anyone able to share the following?
Wrath of the Everchosen
Seasons of War Thondia
War at Amberstone Watch
Battle of Glymmsforge

>>97886356
As stupid as it looks it is still kinda cool

>>97886471
There's something to be said about the old designs, yeah they're chunky and weird, but I think there's a lot of charm to them.

I have the OG Gotrek and the new one, and realistically I like my old one more.

>>97886356
I do like some of the old fantasy dragon sculpts, like the wood elf dragon and the high elf ones, and the later sculpt of the black dragon as well (outside the holes in wings.)

>>97885192
>"total lack of bias"

yeah sure

>>97886356
>>97886176
>>97885841

NGL part of what sold me on AoS vs original WHFB is how dogshit the dragons look in WHFB vs AoS

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>>97886657
KUHHHHHHHHRAZY DURAGONNN KUUUUUHRAZYYYYY DRAGON, AGHH IT IS HOREBOL!

>>97886675
at least he's visually consistent and doesnt look like a 5 year old drew the base shape

>>97886683
I was more making a pun about his stupid name, he's literally just called crazy spelled phonetically

>>97886689
oh what the fuck you're right, i NEVER noticed that

>>97886657
Depends on the dragon I suppose. Love the new soulblight one, the orc cabbage is cool too, and even the stardrake has some retarded charm to it. The stormcast ones on the other hand... except for the ionus one he's alright
Wasn't tow supposed to get a chaos dragon? So all the waacpiggies can stop using ionus for their chaos lords.

>>97886693
i have no clue but i actually like the dragons here, i just wish we would get devastator updates, they dont look great next to my krondys. people always get mad about the expressive faces but i genuinely dont care, i think its fine


i also need to buy ionus sometime, might do that this year

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GUYS I found a leaked profile for the Freeguild knights from the new box!

>>97886176
Really wish these two would at least get a nod in BoK fluff. They're pretty cool.

>>97886692
It's a bit on the nose

>>97886356
I wouldn't mind the old S dragons so much if it weren't for those ridiculous hands. Looks like they got crushed in a Tom and Jerry gag.

>>97886705
>implying they are on 1W

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So over under on the polearm guys just having been a warcry team before having that get mulched and slapped into a spearhead box alongside a few other things and calling it a day.

>>97886723
I doubt they have the amount of options of a warcry team

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>>97886738
2e Warbands were basically devoid of options, definitely not beyond the average kit tbf

>>97886827
I was gonna say, the hunters for CoS had like... Crossbows or 2 guys with spears.

i miss warcry bros. i will not lie.

>>97886837
Honestly me too, but I guess Spearhead stole its intended audience.

>>97886837
I'm still fucking shocked that Underworlds was the one to make it out alive.

>>97886863
i'm not, its incredibly popular in my area at least (west coast), any game store i went to had it and the open always has a ton of games of it being played (yknow, comparatively)

https://www.hachettecollections.com/en-us/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-stormbringer/?_kx=Ij5vrHwMm2Sw7_cw89tuLxIM68CvJvnfFI1bV4Cfn80.XtBy8r&

Last of Stormbringer is out, stormdragon guard, swampboss, ardboyz and warchanter alongside carthalos. Get it before it bricks.

burgerland only

>>97886847
Spearhead stole the project lead*
Then he left GW
We only got the faq recently, it's up the air if it's been scrapped to 3rd is in the works

>>97886880
going all online isnt great, man

>>97886356
The only old dragon i really liked was that one forest dragon with the cool sisters on it. Looked weird? Yes but im the good way

>>97886875
thanks for the heads up anon, i bought the stormdrake guard finally

>>97886965
I snagged Skumdrekk since despite not having a kruleboyz army anymore I just really fucking like that model.

>>97886723
The thought crossed my mind but they're way too uniform to be a warcry warband, except for flamethrower guy and maybe volleygun guy they're nothing special. Compare that to the actual cos warcry warband, the wildercorps.
I think the gutter/night runners have more of a shot of being a recycled warcry warband than these guys.

>>97886990
i actually ended up getting him too because i have orruks due to the start of stormbringer (i subscribed long enough to get krondys and then cancelled)

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>>97887069
I'll be excited if they wind up having the same website for excess stuff for spearhead like they did with stormbringer. If I can get a 26 buck Carnosaur kit I'd be floored.

>>97886000
So how is HeyWoah doing these days anon

>>97886000
Lovely work anon! Also, checked.

>>97886000
the sandy yellow bases contrast so nicely with the blue paintjob of the models, this is great anon!

>>97887086
considering they did it for the 40k combat patrol one, i'd assume they'll do it again

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First time going 3-0 at a tourney. All I had to do was get Eye of Sheerian every game and Chosen bomb.

Fun games tho, you guys play recently?

>>97887429
I got a game in on Saturday, my SBGL vs Stormcast. I didn't realize how strong those fucking longstrikes were they hotfixed one of my monsters clean off the table AND ON THE 1 TIME I DIDNT BRING WOLFCAGE TO DEAL WITH THE RANGED SHIT.

But I made up for it when my Radhukar 1 turn killed their Witness. I wound up losing by 10 or so points but I had a good time.

How are Hedonties this edition? Looking at hopping back in

>>97887429
Your opponent has a pretty cool looking kragnos. Also grats anon, what does your army look like?
>>97887486
I'm pretty sure they either won or came second in the world championship tourney a couple months back, so at least then they were good.
However they're one of a handful of armies that hasn't had their tome yet, and recently those have been pretty big shakeups.

>double turn removed in 5th ed
cant say im surprised
they seem to be changing everything people liked about AOS 1st edition

>>97887531
Ah yes, the beloved 1e rules we've all come to love over the years.

>>97887531
Did anyone even like double-turn though?

>>97887531
There's no way they're going to remove it now

>>97887625
I mean, I'm sure grug club armys enjoyed it.

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>>97887149
I’m sure he’s fine, if a little busy.
>>97887158
>>97887164
Thanks! I really love the stark contrast of a desert against a blue sky so I tried to work that imagery into the overall scheme. Also a tiny bit of inspiration from the robes of Elidinis from old school RuneScape.

>>97887625
even tournament players hate it, because playing around it is tedious and boring

>The Last World
lol

wfg and twg are dead again I guess

>>97887513
Good to know, thanks anon

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>>97885961
goblins

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>>97885961
slowly working on my Stegadon

>>97887992
Oh that’s a niiiice red, my man.

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It's been confirmed they're coming in 5th. Are you ready to CONSUME with me, anon?

>>97887974
Love this artist.

>>97887992
I gotta get to work, I've painted NOTHING recently.

>>97888073
I feel that, granted the cause of that is my work.

>>97888091
I've been caught up in life shit but thankfully that's all smoothed out, most of what's holding me back is I need to actually buy some primer.

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>>97887531
Now if only they removed the fixed to hit/wound rolls and either made them just one or had to wound be what the enemy needs to roll to damage a unit. So that it actually simplifies things while allowing interaction.

>>97888023
>Confirmed
By Who?

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>>97887513

Yeah, that Kragnos was sick!

My list wasn't anything interesting really. I wanted to try the Gaunt Summoner teleporting 10 Chosen combo. Archaon to potentially double turn it. Then it's just Knights, a Knight Lord and some Darkoath to babysit an objective.

All my games were relatively close, but it did feel like getting the double turn into Chosen teleporting behind screens was a little OPOP.

In comparison yesterday was the first time I'd ever fought Ogres and I thought all their units were so well stat'd and good at what they're supposed to do. A completely fair no gimmick army.

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Kitbashed my Vampire Lord, pretty happy with results

>>97888309
Not too shabby, it is funny how most people head replace the funny bat hair version.

>>97888309
this is a 10/10 kitbash

>>97888309
Fuck looks really cool anon

>>97888030
It's very soulful. Maybe it's just because I find it interesting how the koreans and japanese etc react to something very western like waehammer, but I've really been enjoying his little comics.

>>97888309
this is pretty cool. I cant wait to see it painted.

>>97888345
Them describing order faction has me rolling laughing.
It reminds me of an old japanese BG1+2 playthrough comic, very similar vibes.

>>97888309
I wish I decided to do something more simple for my kitbash because its looking like it’s gonna come out as shit at this rate.

>>97886863
Underworlds first edition models were all Kino. Every edition has been worse than the one before it.

>>97888473
you're out of your fucking mind, there's been some stinkers but there is no universe the newer shit isn't leaps and bounds better.

And I really enjoy the first edition models, but there's some sick ass shit later on.

>>97888573
nta, but the early khorne underworlds stuff is great.

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>>97888589
Oh 100%, I like the blood warrior crew more than the bloodreavers. Magore is such a god damn cool model, I also painted his axe to look like it's living gums with teeth poking out and gave his little tummy mouth a tongue.

But Brethren of the bolt, Grothgorn's Mantrappers, and Sons of Velmorn are some of my favorite minis BAR NONE.

>>97888621
I know early Khorne had some big misses (looking at you khorgorath) but damn also had some of the best chaos warrior models

>>97888621
for me it is the other way around. Garrik's Reavers are not only better proportioned than normal Bloodreaver, but also have much more dynamic poses.

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>>97888647
>khorgorath

Another hot take; I kinda wish GW would have gone more for crazy out there shit like Khorgorath. Yeah it's clearly from that early on time period of them being really excited that they have 3d modeling software BUT I think if we got chaos spawn with that level of weirdness I'd be happy to see it.

>>97888651
I do like them too, the 2h axe guy and Garrik himself are both lovely models. Also Zarbag is another favorite of mine, yeah he's just a basic git but he's got so much personality.

>>97888473
By edition here I'm assuming you mean like shadespire, nightvault, etc?
The early ones were pretty much just a leader and like 4 alternate sculpts for random units, which was pretty cool but I also appreciate them showing off some more niche stuff later on even if that was more hit and miss.
Favourite "season" was probably direchasm though, lots of big hitters in that one. Love the bonesplitters and there's a reason the crimson court shows up like 50 times at golden demon every year. Mir kainan is also by far the best obr sculpt released it's not even funny.

>>97888672
I don't say i dislike Khorgorath as a concept but... That size? Killed the whole model for me, but i would take stuff like Scylla, Valkia, Wrathmongers in general i enjoy a lot Khorne aesthetic even if some people despise it.

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>>97885961
Nothing too grand has really been done. Been trying to kitbash some leftover crypt horror bodies but I’m missing/lost bits that I thought I had so I’m trying to make do. Looks like shit but hopefully I can salvage it.

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Now that the dust has settled, why did the HoH flop?

>>97888773
How goes the beastmen army?

>>97888473
i dont think so, grinkraks looncourt was one of the best ones and it was way later

>>97888773
>look mom, i did it again tee hee!

>>97888772
Also I have no idea what I’m gonna do with the backs. I thought shaving down the gore and replacing it with branches but it’d probably be lame. The ideal would be to find some way to combine the body horror with some flora.

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>>97885961
Did these guys recently. Getting back into it after a hiatus.

>>97888473
If you said edition, rather than season, I'd be with you as the game has massively declined between editions.
Still 2nd edition still had plenty kino bands.

Building the cavalry for CoS right now, and I get that horse heads come in variety of sizes irl, but man the tiny heads do bother me. I don't really understand why GW has no issue understanding over-exaggerating human proportion, but not the horse ones.
Still pretty good sculpts if you shave off some extra bits.

>>97888773
People liked the idea of the Helsmiths more so than the actual models

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>>97888023
>tfw you will never see sylvaneth get a command squad that has a wanderer, a rootking, a knight of the furrow, and a silent one being harassed by a spite on one of the bases as a diorama.

>>97888894
Wanderers (Kurnoth) and Root kings should be their own things already

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Idoneth Deepkin
or
Slaves to Darkness
or
Soulblight Gravelords
or
Helsmiths of Hashut

I'm completely new.
Both to painting and playing.
I'll buy a Spearhead first.

>>97888948
Soulblight and helsmiths are both more easier for painting imo. Gameplay wise they are both kinda average in spearheads game mode. Unless if you can get the one with the bloodknights, that one’s fairly strong.

>>97888773
Shitposting aside I really don't see these moving anytime soon. I mean why would you ever get these now that the spearhead is out?
>>97888948
Well which one do you like most?

>>97888672
Zarbag is great, much prefer him over the fungoid shaman. I love most of the "new" gitz stuff but I never really liked that guy, same with the spore sniffer dudes.

>>97888948
idk

>>97888672
>Yeah it's clearly from that early on time period of them being really excited that they have 3d modeling software
they have been sculpting miniatures digitally for at least a decade before the korgorath

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>>97888985
I thought STD would be easier since it's pretty much all plate. I want to get into the proper game and yeah I could get the Blood Knight Spearhead, even the old Battleforce.
>>97889027
Hard to say. I'm a bit intimidated by Deepkin but I like their lore. I did read that Court of the Blind King book and enjoyed it quite a lot. I like vampires and evil demonic knights as well. I think I would be happy with either and probbaly will get more armies with time.
>>97889209
How hard are they to play?

>>97889299
>How hard are they to play?
idk

>>97889299
Std can be annoying for beginners since they have quite a bit of infamous "chaos trim" which can be very finnicky work. Lots of accidentally getting a bit of a different colour on your already finished parts and then having to go over it again...
Take a look at chosen, you'l see what I mean. Though I think it's generally more of a 40k problem.
Anyway for the spearhead that shouldn't be much of a problem. Maybe a little on the knights, but the warriors should be a very nice first dip into painting.
Deepkin will be trickier, by no means impossible but maybe a bit harder for a beginner. As for how hard they are to play, right now mhyea. Lots of positioning etc for not a whole lot of reward, they didn't have much luck with their tome this edition. The spearhead is pretty strong though and relatively straightforward, plus an amazing deal (~40% off) on units you all want.

>>97888378
>Them describing order faction has me rolling laughing.
any example ?

>>97889299
>How hard are they to play?
In the regular game they're quite hard and do not produce satisfying returns relative to the thought and skill needed to play them well. Feels like only the best players are finding any amount of enjoyment in playing them. In spearhead, they're pretty good and the nature of Spearhead relieves a lot of the burden of thinking and planning that you have to do in the regular game.

>>97888773
someone on another AoS thread once used the word MOBA to describe the look of the Helsmiths. I didn't knew then what it was (I don't play MMO) and once I looked, I realized the guy doing that comparison was definitively right. Not only that, but now that I know the concept and its associated aesthetic, I can't help but seeing it a lot on many recent GW products, Cathay for TOW is clealry inspired by that which explains why I felt they were out of step with the rest of the setting. And now they're trying to insert in AoS as well, I hope it doesn't work and a more traditional aesthetic remains the main look

>>97889482
Since we're discussing the aesthetics of the games and armies, I'm reposting something from an older thread which sparked a discussion which I think should continue
>a question for everybody here : there has definitively been a tone shift in AoS from the high fantasy, magic everywhere, zany feel of the first edition to the almost-but-not-quite-grimdark, whfb reborn of the fourth edition. We now know they were preparing the way for TLW but I'm unable to pinpoint the exact moment where the shift began. Second edition made the setting clearer and gave us an actual look at the workings of the realms but otherwise it still felt a lot like first edition. When do you think it actually started ? That might show when exactly they decided to set things up for a TLW future

>>97889218
Fair, I just like making fun of stuff like the bloodsecrator and his 10 million skulls. (Though I do unironically love that fucking move.

>he's now samefagging his shitty bait
kek

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>>97889457
Stuff like this.

>>97889553
this fucking sucks ass and you should feel bad for posting it.

>>97889556
Sorry you feel that way, anon.

>>97889553
DoK is the only one that shouldnt be allowed in order, worshipping a literal chaos god and being "order" is insane

>>97889553
It’s cute.

>>97889564
Khaine isn't a Chaos god even though it isn't a good god either

>>97888773
They have dogshit rules and GW had the bright idea of releasing a shooting army in a heavily anti shooting rules cycle. I played the new DoK today with my HoH and it was fucking miserable. Just an absolute waste of an evening. Must be nice playing a faction that some coom brain at GW has decided is his favorite.

>>97889589
elf niggas need to be sent to hell

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>>97889503
I don't quite agree with the notion that aos has shifted from """high fantasy""" to "whfb reborn", at least not in model wise. Look at the recent Cos wave, shit like the cogfort and the gate gargants is arguably "zanier" than anything released in 1st or 2nd. I think rather what's happened is that we've shifted from a warcraft esque style that was prevalent in the early to mid 2010's, so during end times and early 1st edition, to a more fromsoft inspired, or dark soulsian vibe. Peak example of this were the new maggotkin, but I don't think this necessarily makes things less high fantasy magic everywhere etc, it's just executed in a different manner. New festus is riding a massive fucking slug thing for example. I also don't think this is necessarily closer to whfb, again another maggotkin example would be the prophet-like nature of new blightkings, whereas the old end times sculpts actually were very close to oldhammer nurgle models. The new nurgle stuff has clearly gone in a new direction (folk/pagan horror) but it's still quite high fantasy, still quite zany in ways (festus) just executed differently from both earlier aos and whfb.
Tldr it's not high->low it's warcraftslop->fromslop which I'm down with

Do Kruel boys have any decent short stories? I’ll even take the free ones they put up on warcom. I kinda want to know how they speak.

>>97889688
I actually find the concept of freeguild ogors and gargants and its execution model wise to be rather dark low fantasy rather than high fantasy
overall the freeguild units give me strong Black Company/The Witcher vibes, or even Berserk

>>97889688
Absolutely retarded pseud take, but what I'd expect from a FROMslopper.

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>>97885961
Progress update. Got the final 5 models done, now I can actually work on finalizing the lava on the bases and doing the rims.

>>97887429
got my ass beat in my first 2k game over the weekend, failed to update my list before the cutoff for my next league game so not super looking forward to the next one. The worst part was that despite getting table in basically 2 rounds it still took almost 4 hours. I really need a cheat sheet or something for my unit stats because it takes forever to scroll the apps to find shit.

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>>97888672
My personal pointless conspiracy theory is that Zarbag was originally modeled to have a little attack squig as an homage/resculpt of the BfSP boss (like how the shootas in his warband are posed identically to those from BfSP) and they changed it to the sniffer-spite for whatever reason partway through
Then of course they brought that concept back with the squigboss later on

>>97889299
STD are pretty easy to play, your core rule is your dudes kill things, you roll a dice and you get a permanent buff for the rest of the game, and they stack. Painting STD is much harder, lots of small bits to paint different colors, lots of fur and potentially exposed skin depending on which you units you lean into. Deepkin are a more complicated to play with their weird tide mechanic but a bit easier to paint, especially if you have an airbrush for the eels and sharks.

>>97889553
DoK is the only major stand out in order. LRL are basically the same as humans morally, KO are humans but hyper legal, and seraphon aren't really that aggressive and are more chaotic good. They fight demons, they just won't stick around to help out if saving you isn't part of The Plan. The only reason DoK are even part of order is because Sigmar originally allied with Morathi to fight chaos, but he also allied with the destruction gods so...

>>97890384
Order is the only place that will put up with Morathi's trifling ass anyway.

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>>97890433
>>97890384
>>97889564

Some of you have never had a dominatrix and it really shows.
Dommes are absolutely all about order, rules, discipline.
DoK are the most Order faction by far

>>97890605
i dont CARE that they're dominatrixes, i expect that from bongs, they inherantly want to bow down to control, they'd all be happier living as serfs


what i CARE about is that my glorious lizards are next to their literal evil-but-not-chaos-god worshipping asses, get them outta the club

>>97890605
Morathi is seething that her sins from the World That Was have made her nothing more than an ally of desperation. Nobody wants to deal with her beyond just enough to ensure she's not going to backstab them - and then she does it anyway.

She's Retarded Evil because all she wants is power like it'll enable her to be Sole Hero to beat Chaos.

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>this dude actually types it out every single time

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>>97890619
You know your lizards were bad guys when they first appeared in Fantasy.

>>97890636
I want to deal with her

>>97890677
He's gotta do something while his next TWW match loads. Lord knows painting minis won't do the job!

>>97890679
everyone that wasnt the empire or brettonia were bad guys when they first appeared because bongs need to project

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>>97890619
>furry seething over sexy women
Every time with you people.

>>97890691
Wrong, High Elves were objectively the most good faction

>>97889688
>fromsoft inspired
it's giving boss baby vibes

>>97890679
>You know your lizards were bad guys when they first appeared in Fantasy.
no, they weren't, the book even goes out of its way to depict multiple friendly interactions with humans

>>97890691
bongs self insert as high elves, not the empire or bretonnia, and dwarfs weren't bad guys either
it's only dark elves who are grossly out of place

>>97889808
>no argument
are we back? Wtf happened?

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>>97889503
they changed logo from 1st to 2nd edition and the army second edition launched with was simple chain rattling bedsheets with no "high fantasy, magic everywhere, zany feel"
starter sets begin conceptualisation immediately after the previous one and the nighthaunt blanche sketches confirm they're from 2015

gw decided aos was fucked the moment of its terrible reception at launch, they've been controlling damage ever since

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>>97890852
Second edition also gave us lumineth, which are probably the most "magic everywhere" army out there. Not to mention endless spells, quite literal magic everywhere, releasing at the same time as nighthaunt. This is bullshit.

>>97890876
>This is bullshit.
just because they weren't released in 1st edition it doesn't mean they weren't conceptualised back then, we don't have their concept sketches
it is very much possible they were delayed because they already had the release schedule full, as it's also poss they were designed and released afterwards, but even then I'm prone to treat them as a conceptual holdover of a previous direction, rather than proof there was no change in direction by their time

>>97890887
>just because they weren't released in 1st edition it doesn't mean they weren't conceptualised back then
May be, but I think that point is moot since they kept making endless spells long afterwards, and continue to do so. Not to mention, again, all the high fantasy stuff released in 2nd. It'd be interesting to know when idoneth were conceptualized, they released like a month or two before 2nd dropped and are of course very "magic everywhere". I don't suppose we can just ask Blanche if he worked on some sketches, and if so, when?

>>97890843
5th ed was evil Lizards vs good Bretonnians

>>97890927
endless spells aren't that wacky of a concept to me, it's not like fantasy didn't have the purple sun and other remain in play spells, just as templates rather than models

Is it me or is the site fucked up today?

>>97890946
5th ed was lizards retaliating against a bretonnian colony they established in lustria
lizards are the ugly side of the box, not the evil side of it

>>97891107
Based lizzies preventing the evil that would be fantasy quebecois

>>97891026
4chan, the Last Board.

>>97890830
Well, the Souls games are inspired by GW products just not Warhammer

why the fuck can't I post
anyway they really killed the rumour engine huh?

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/abi61d19/tabletop-titans-top-tips-for-spearhead-city-of-ash/

>>97891431
That's a neat ability, wish he was an elf though.

>>97891471
He does look like Hugo Weaving, so you can always guess he's a half-elf

>>97891471
that would be retarded

>>97891490
Not at all, anon.

>>97891431
Seems like clan eshin will get a battletome supplement of their own
Also is the captcha slow as molasses for anyone else or is it just me?

>>97891518
anvilgard is a story about HUMANS getting overthrown by ELVES
having the human side represented by an elf would be retarded

>>97891582
Have you even read the story? Cities have more than humans in it, and even amongst the dark elves (which are not all elves in the city) that overthrew the city council; there were plenty of dark elves who fought on side of non-Morathii during this little insurrection. Like you understand that only reason so many were able to escape was thanks to the dark elf corsairs right? Like you know dwarfs and stormcast mounted a counter-resistance too, right?

>>97891592
>Have you even read the story?
Yes, and the core of the story is still humans getting betrayed by elves regardless of the #not-all-elves message at the sidelines

to make the representative character of this event an exception is a retarded idea that would only serve to spit on humans even further with the elven equivalent of the white saviour trope

>>97891620
So in a story where ALL races were betrayed by Morathii, it only makes sense than a human represents that.
Alright, understood.

>>97891640
>So in a story where ALL races
No, humans first and foremost.
The other races are extras, exceptions and peculiarities, not the core of it, they don't matter.
You can have a cos story without any race but humans, you can't have a cos story with all other races but humans.
You can't have an elven saviour representing the humans of anvilguard betrayed by the elves of anvilgard.

>>97891655
We literally had several CoS books with POV of dwarves and elves exclusively, but alright.
Sure anon.

>>97891660
they weren't CoS books, no.

Another one for the bingo it seems

>>97891716
Sounds like you've been put on that many times already.

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>>97891431
I'm wondering how much this guy is gonna hate elves.

>>97891723
I'm nta. The only bingo-worthy discussion I've been part of was the Great Tree-Revenant Botanical Debate, which was quite civil all things considered

>>97887625
People coped themselves into liking it because it was a distinctive part of the ruleset/general branding. While most of the qualities of the brand are focus-grouped pablum slop, the double turn was something legitimately unique. You can find all sorts of tortured explanations about how it's 'tactically interesting' or 'gives players unique problems to solve' or whatever.

Personally I hated it and I called it getting assfucked into oblivion when TLW rumours started hitting. Good riddance. I don't play Age of Sigmar.

>>97891750
They're ghosts exploding out of trees and I refuse to listen to anyone else.

Also ghouls with a musket-line would be the coolest shit.

>>97891753

>While most of the qualities of the brand are focus-grouped pablum slop, the double turn was something legitimately unique.
>Good riddance. I don't play Age of Sigmar.

Ah yes, someone who doesn't play the actual fucking game thinks it's a neat idea. That tracks, since it takes literally anytime you get tabled from the double turn, or getting the double turn and flubbing your rolls to realize 99% of the time it's useless. Double turn is on par with turn 1 charge in terms of thought patterns.

>>97891753
>personally I hated it
>I don't play Age of Sigmar
Eh?

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>>97891753
Here’s hoping your game adopts the double turn in its stride.

Also fuck this captcha thing is annoying I can probably crank one out with how slow

Now that the dust has settled why do you think the double turn flopped.

>>97891776
>Why do you think a double-turn, in a highly lethal game, flopped
No clue.

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>>97891782
I personally feel like people liked the concept of the double turn more than the rules themselves.

the double turn would have less impact if we had alternating activations.

>>97891814
That's true, and it's not like this game really needs hard turns either as it's not a combo-heavy game like say Warmachine is.

>>97891814
>the double turn would have less impact if we had alternating activations.

I think the double turn is nice to have for army's that can properly take advantage of it. In theory you can completely fuck it up if you roll bad (haha IMAGINE) and even then you're not scoring from it (unless that changed again, I know you can pseudo score if you have something like the Soggy treasures objectives) It does feel extremely bad if you're down and then get doubled turned off the fucking board.

Mind you, I'm not good enough or playing competently enough for it to matter most cases. I'm either playing against someone who sucks as bad as I do or someone leagues better than me who knows what the fuck they're doing.

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>>97891726
You know the guy that gets upset in the elf threads if you post a cute anime elf or male human x female elf?
That's him. He loathes them very much.

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>>97891857
I don't go to the elf threads, I GO TO THE SUPERIOR GOBLIN THREADS

But at least that explains the guys origin story.

>>97891857
>literal hentai elf
>cute anime elf
Why are you conflating the dislike for the pornification of elves with the hatred of elves themselves?

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>>97891868
Okay Kreel.
Now it's Har Kuron not Anvilguard.

>>97891939
Fake promises, the only nice thing snake-ladies did for umies is build WWE fight arena in Har Kuron.

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>>97891939
fake snakes!

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>>97891969
Oh no, you get to watch naked elf women do gladiatorial combat against enemies every Sunday(literally every bloody Sunday, huh that's very punny) for free.

>>97891939
That series was so ass.

>>97892000
I was just thinking, what'll happen to the previous DoK spearhead now that warlocks got squatted, ruleswise? Might this be an indication that they're looking to cycle out some spearheads of a """tournament legal rotation""" or some bullshit like that?

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>>97892043
It's clear they're just gonna make a new one and get rid of the old one.
Not that deep.

>>97892043
now that you mention it, making fixed lists the standard for some tournaments would be an useful tool for gw to get good data on factions' winrates beyond their meta spam builds

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>>97892076
My tinfoil hat theory is that the new kit is so simple, devoid of options and fitting on just one sprue as to make it very convenient for gw to include it as the unit in their next dok spearhead instead of another of their larger and more valuable dual kits

>>97892173
Why would they include the new unit in a spearhead instead of just making you buy it separately?
Maybe if it had been a larger fomo box like shadow & pain.

>>97891655
>You can't have an elven saviour representing the humans of anvilguard betrayed by the elves of anvilgard.
That example in specific seems like a really interesting premise however

>>97892183
because any new unit extinguishes 80% of its lifetime sales within the first few months of its release anyway, because by including this unit in the spearhead you can stealthily cut corners since any other unit you include in it costs more for gw to produce because it has more than one sprue, and because by making the spearhead as inimical to repeated purchases as possible (such as including a unit whose models have only one build) you incentivise the customers to buy the other, pricier, products instead of a second spearhead

>>97892076
Yeah but as of now all the old spearheads have kept being "legal" even as the discount boxes have gone away. Leaves DoK in kind of an awkward position, they'd have 1 SH while others like CoS have 4.

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>AOS still mocked regularly
>very little interest in video games books or comics
>still hard to find regular games runnign at LGS
>Most online hype is for 40k
>thread is basically ded
>Still find aos models the coolest

I just can't quit you, I love aos minis so much. I think we just need 1 good book and 1 good game like space marine 2 or total war

>97892386
lmao trying a new approach are we

>>97892386
nah, games or stories by themselves don't work without a solid amount of worldbuilding behind it all and aos lacks that, it has a lengthy history now, and that will help at having people care about the characters and what they've done, but aos needs to trim the unnecessary ephemeral stuff and consolidate what it actually has before any popularity trampoline like a good animation or good game can come close to retaining the interest of people.

gw needed to release one big heavy book about ALL the maps, the creatures, the cultures, the gods, the cosmology and the metaphysics of the setting, because keeping them nebulously unexplored, while also never exploring them only serves to make their potential to contain anything moot, because most people getting into settings are consumers, not home-brewers, they want to read about how the writers filled the blanks, they don't want to fill those themselves

and no, wanting space to add your own stuff is not the same as not wanting everything else to be fleshed out, if anything, having lots of examples of both important and niche things in all corners are the points of reference these people would also want

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>>97892444
>gw needed to release one big heavy book about ALL the maps, the creatures, the cultures, the gods, the cosmology and the metaphysics of the setting

I keep saying a book along the lines of the warcraft chronicles thing of just a bigass book of lore, character bits, and fluff would have been fantastic. Do one of those for each grand alliance and you're fucking set. EVEN if shit gets retconned it's at least something to work off of for the general randy.

Then do the same shit they did with the chaos books where you get like... 1/4th of a coin with each purchase so you can bag a bunch of whales.

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>>97892444
Trips and truth

Easiest way to do that is to create their own Sword Coast. A condensed, relatively medium sized region with representation from every faction. Set a story there, set a game there. Let the battle for the cosmos happen elsewhere. Let local stories breath by having small towns of humans, orruk tribes and elf travelers come around and not be bothered about some impending apocalypse 200 years from now. A place where a single chaos sorcerer in a cave is a notable threat. And the decisions of a queen can change a lot. When a big elite enemy shows up it can then be a big deal.

>>97892484
>A condensed, relatively medium sized region with representation from every faction. Set a story there, set a game there.

It's time to go back to Ghur.

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>>97892489
I'm down with any place. If they made a fun region and got someone like Dan Abnett or Chris Wright to do a story there I'd be a fan. Then set a game there. I feel like the setting is all fairy dust, We need a Bretonnia or free cities region on the border of some bullshit happening

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>>97892484
>A condensed, relatively medium sized region with representation from every faction
Bro we have 7 of those, it's not going to sway secondaries lol. Vidya is king.

>>97892521
>Bretonnia
Uggh

>>97892521
>We need a Bretonnia or free cities region on the border of some bullshit happening

Literally just grab Glymmsforge or Ulfenkarn and make a tide game there, that's it. Deathtide or some shit, have it be against undead so ghosts, ghouls, vamps, and bone reapers. Say Nagash is pissed and trying to take back territory to justify it.

>>97892523
If you have 7 of those you have none of those.
An empty map with no meaning. You don't even need a full world, middle earth is just western Europe with the rest being a blank but its so detailed with enough room for speculation that it has dominated fantasy since Fellowship came out at least.

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>>97892523
I mean
>Bro we have 7 of those
isn't that the problem? that's 6 too many.
Also that's a big fuckoff continent bigger than eurasia. We don't need 80 biomes and 3 land masses. Just take 80 square kilometers of Scotland and go with that. A local Sylvaneth woods, an outpost of Lumineth elves, a couple cities of Hummies. Destruction comes from the east, chaos from the north, death from the south. Order in the west.

Here's an idea, it's a vital shipping area and crossroads. So Some faction is always traveling through and destabilizing the area. one faction ambushes the other and steals an important artifact and kicks off a war of cat and mouse.
>>97892547
I saw this after I wrote the above^ but ya that's a good scenario. Again, we need a single small region, and writers need to fucking stick to it.

Ulfenkarn would be kino
I love the whole Vyrkos aesthetic

>>97892561
>marsh of Tsun

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>>97892523
>bro we have a [condensed relatively medium sized region]
>posts 3 continents, 1 of which is eurasian sized spanning every climate, and 2 sub continents

r u avin a laff m8

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>>97892386
This.
AoS got some of the best fantasy sculpts.
Too bad GW is too corporatized and stingy to invest in some good lore or design the game that doesn't appeal to e sports

>>97892580
Golvaria/aridian/capilaria is the only landmass that really matters there tbf

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As someone who's terrible with color choice, can I get some suggestions for how to paint my skeletons?
>What I know
Dark bronze armor plates, iron scale mail, clean bleached bone
>What I have an idea of
Crimson or burgundy cloth. But really I don't know.
Another thing that's really tripping me up is the shield. I could just do it in the same bronze as the armor, but that feels really boring.

>>97892672
Do you want a dingy dark bronze or a more bronze dark bronze? I have two really good paint recs for either and can show you what they look like on models. I personally went for a bronze armor/shield trim on my dwarves.

>>97892716
I'm going to base it in Pro Acryl Dark Bronze. That will likely be my darkest color. So I plan for it to be pretty dingy and dark in the places that aren't covered in verdigris. But I'd love to see your recommendations on that since I plan to have the armor a bit "cleaner" for leader units.

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This is why the AoS setting has no legs compared to WHFB. If GW had half a brain they would hire historians, archeologists and anthropologists to develop their worlds. Not 25 year old English grads.

>>97892730
here's your pity (You), now fuck off

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>>97892728
Dark bronze from pro acryl was my rec for the dingier bronze, with very lightly stippled gold of any kind to make it look extra dingy.

Alternatively there is the Vallejo TMM ancient copper triad. The dwarf in the front is fully washed and highlighted on the bronze. You can leave it darker by going a bit heavier on the wash and avoiding the final highlight.

>>97892742
nobody wants your dogshit advice, gotenigger

>>97892742
I don’t think you should be giving advice man.

>>97892742
fuck you cunt

>>97892742
Nice bronze anon, what greenish-blue is that by the way?

>>97892672
I used bronze armor with verdigris, rusty chainmail, bronze shield with peeling off-white paint with rusty metal trim. Cloth is blue for swords, red for spears, black for command. Winter bases.

>>97892730
Wait, people use Facebook?

>>97892756
Thank you! The base is sotek green, followed by a highlight of temple guard blue followed by a final highlight of baharroth blue.

If you meant in the background there that's probably Vallejo German Uniform, but it may be Vallejo Bronze Green, it's an old photo.

>>97892768
Mostly older people, but yeah. It's very popular for alternative war game discussions, for whatever reason.

>>97892768
There’s tons of great wargaming communities and resources on Facebook. Facebook is the only social media I use, with a fake name, for Facebook market and wargaming content

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taking the bait today, huh guys? why are you responding to bait instead of hobbying or playing the game?


ANSWER NOW.

>dark (a)elf assassin and sorceress will be in the book for cities of sigmar while the rest are legends
There’s something funny about that.
>>97892852
Tbf I am (trying) to learn how to sculpt in blender rn, so I’m probably not gonna be dealing with plastic until I can figure out how to make a donut at least.

>>97892858
godspeed anon i am learning the same thing these days, here's a tip, watch people's speedmodels slowed down, and check out this guy later on
https://youtube. com/ @artisansofvaul

Good evening
I'm still not paying for a pass

>>97892730
>25 year old
Nah, that might have been new or interesting. 45 year old millennial loser hacks write the nu-lore and other 45 year old millennial losers slop it right up.

>>97892876
The point is, it should be people who have a passion for civilization, cultures and peoples who world build for GW. Not English grads or “ writers “. Also black library may be written by millennial sloppers but the fluff in the books and the rules are designed by 20 something dolts.

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>>97892852
I'm at work. But will be painting up my goddess tonight when I get home from the gym

>>97892730
>>97892936
>erm, if a faction isn't a thinly veiled copy paste of a real world civilization it is BAD
lol

>>97893016
Compare the Empire to the Inner Cities of Sigmar for more than 5 seconds and tell me in good faith that the latter came out better.

>>97893083
/twg/ not dead enough for you? Pajama core is Reddit btw.

>>97893089
Why do you all seethe over Total War so much?

>it got to him
lol.

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>rumor engine quietly ended
it's over it's so over

>>97893120
Would've been nice to do like 1 last sendoff one with a fun article talking about it malfunctioning while retrieving this last image or something.

>>97893107
You bitched out of the argument entirely, seethed over a vidya out of nowhere, then declared victory. Tranny debate team isn't sending their best. CoS is objectively a very weak range with a design philosophy that wouldn't have made the cut at Fisher-Price, and >>97892936 makes a good argument as for why that's the case.

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>>97893120
I think they’re trying to keep the hype up for 40k so far by ignoring everything else. Honestly it’s just making that starter box look extremely grim. I would be partially excited if they at least hinted at a new revamped combat patrol mode but I guess with the lead for it gone they can’t recreate the magic.

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>>97893132
>bitched, seethed, declared victory
>
Go out and enjoy some grass my south East Asian retard. I mean you might get shot in the slums but maybe the organ harvesters might finally put you to use.

>JJKzoomer, phoneposter, AND a faggot
You are actually subhuman, holy fucking shit.

>>97893016
>>97893083

>>97893146
Do you think you're arguing against one person anon?

>>97893169
Firstly, yes, I'm one nigga at a 'puter, Putler isn't sending his ebil bot army to take down your plastic toy game. Secondly, he didn't really argue much at all, more so shit his britches and cried about a video game from 4 years ago and then randomly sperged and said some racist shit about SEA, could be schizophrenia? You're free to address my point >>97893083 if you like.

>>97893169
Do you?

>>97885822
>TQ

I’ve never touched spearhead, worth it? I mostly play matched play with my friend and we may try PTG soon with multiple factions and custom lore for /ourdudes/

>>97893126
Generally they weren't very interesting and didn't do a good job of drumming up interest and discussion like I'm sure they wanted. Mostly, whatever discussion they did drum up would inevitably turn to asking why the new fyre slayers and ogres haven't been shown off yet despite having been teased going on a year ago now. honestly I'm curious if those will go the way of the spider rumor engine where they just cancel the project and never bring it up ever again.

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>>97893179

>>97893179
You’re probably unaware of this anon, but you’re painting yourself up as a loser.

Which has the better design, Empire or CoS?
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Guess that answers that.

>>97893186
>honestly I'm curious if those will go the way of the spider rumor engine where they just cancel the project and never bring it up ever again.
Right, because they didn’t show off the nurgle or obr rumor engine that was displayed with them. Don’t be dumb anon.

>>97888023
No. Unless they have Wardancers.I am tired of the only good-looking Wardancer miniature ever sculpted being the one for Warhammer Quest in 1995.

>>97886723
You guys had the same dumbass conspiracy for the new Kharadon units? Warcry warbands are not uniform 10 man units with matching loadouts

>>97892622
Dope stuff, what's your recipe for the armor ?

>>97893341
>wardancers
That’s the one thing I don’t want from kurnothi. I’ll take fauna with my flora, but twinks are gay.

>>97892994
... i'd actually prefer it if you didnt hobby, anon. specifically you.

>>97893356
give me more twinks and i'll play kurnothi. give me twink deer centaurs

>>97892622
Dope stuff, what's your recipe for the armor ?

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>>97885841
Why do all of the studio paintjobs for forgeworld minis look so odd?

The old resin bloat drone, GuO and Lord of Change were uncomfortable to look at. Those in particular were really uncanny and muted.

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>>97889198
>>97888672
I remember when zarbag's gitz and the mini-troll boxes were worth and arm and a leg but thankfully they've been reprinted.

>>97888473
>>97888473
they're all relatively good, since it's a low stakes and small scale system they seem to be more willing to go in different directions. The newer ones are still fine but the old ones are indeed the best like you said. That one band that was just a big ogor pirate captain with his gnoblar and pet monkey and bird was cool. they also offer awesome proxxy sculpts.

Fecula from the Wurmspat has become my rotbringer sorcerer proxxy

>>97892672
whenever I struggle with stuff like this, I look at skins or palette swaps from video games.

Overwatch in particular has a really nice gallery to look at skins. Just look for something, anything that uses one of your primary colors and then look at the secondary/tertiary colors for inspo.

Glad to see I’m not the only one the captcha has fucked over.
>>97893384
Because it was le grim dark. Forge world was weird as fuck and they even tried showing off resin minis with flakes on them as advertisements like it was normal when it just looked like shit.

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>>97888948
>idk
hard to paint and play and not that popular. I'm surprised GW has the entire fucking ocean to work with and they've only given us like 3 sea creatures so far.

>stD
the chaos warriors are the only easy thing to paint. their elite units and cavalry have a lot of trim and decorations that can overwhelm you. one of the more popular armies. I do not recommend darkoath side of the army at all unless you REALLY like wimpy mortal barbarians that take you 5 hours to paint and your opponent 5 seconds to kill.

>soulblight
suprisingly popular especially the skeletons. you can paint those up pretty fast but it might get expensive if you buy the kits individually. They have a dedicated skeleton spearhead which would be a nice start and some new-ish skelly cavalry. You can also easily use 3rd party skeleton sculpts or have them 3d printed to save a lot of money.

>HoH
idk much about them but they are new and have a really limited range thus far. I guess that makes list building and collection easy.

for a beginner I think StD would be the easiest to play. p straightforward just pummel your enemy with your raw strength and overwhelm them. their Bloodwind legion spearhead is alright but the chariot and chaos lord sculpts are old holdovers from WHFB.

The best tip I can give you is that you should pick a faction where you LIKE the battleline troop units. Since you're probably going to be running and painting them no matter what in any kind of list. For example if you like IDK but hate namarti then that's enough reason to pick something else. Even if chosen or varanguard are hard to paint, you may only need to do 5 or 10 of them each but around 20 or 30 chaos warriors. Save your hobby time and effort for the special characters and heroes that will be leading your guys.

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>>97892622
>>97892386
>AOS still mocked regularly
I've never heard of anyone mocking AoS outside of AoS fans desu.

>very little interest in video games books or comics
this isn't really our fault and only organic growth in the fandom or prayer will lead to more and better expansion of the lore.

>Most online hype is for 40k
yeah but I think this is a good thing. I don't think there are any AoS secondaries, as I suspect that most AoS players/hobbyists got their start in 40k or WHFB or another game. 40k is kind of the gateway drug and only people that really appreciate the game are playing AoS. just talking out of my ass though idk for certain

It's nice to not have as many secondaries, autists, or Waacfags like 40k does.

>>97891431
wtf is with his hairline??? just paint him like a black person and pretend he has dreadlocks

>>97890037
looking good so far keep it up. what grey is that on the hoods?

>>97893459
>wtf is with his hairline
Anon has never seen an Italian.

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>post this in the TOW thread
>they get mad enough to report it
>jannies actually clean it up
lel
Guess that explains why the ritual trolls are allowed to do their thing in this thread, jannies are playing favorites.
Of course, given what we learned about the jannies in the sharty hack that only makes the image more accurate

>>97893083
CoS, easily.
>b-b-but they're not in TWW!
Concession accepted.

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I have a lot of models but never tried Big-mar before. It's a lot of nurgle. Over 2k points but that's mostly in blightkings, glotkin, and 4 fly riders. No chaff to speak of. If I wanted to try AoS proper would it better to fill out my frontline with rotswords or pestigors or pox wretches. what purpose do plaguebearers serve now with 2 other wimpy chaff units being introduced?

Oh and I got about 800 points of Gitz if I had to guess. 2 squig herds, 10 riders, a gobbapalooza and the old vanguard box.

I've played several spearhead matches with the IJ and Nurgle boxes but it's been almost a year since them. I've also been eyeing CoS and the Cogfort has me excited but I think it's best to just learn the game first. They seem like a more technical army not to mention the high model count.

Would Nurgle be my best bet for giving a full scale game a try or should I expand my IJ spearhead? My nurgle guys are all mostly elite so the model count would be low. I think I need some weaker screen units like the plaguebearers or rotswords for a balanced force that can screen and hold obj in a 1k point game.

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I'm going to buy City of Ash and use it to play Warcry and Wyrdcry with and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

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Free terrain if you see a movie

>>97893710
>free with purchase
Zoom-zooms. . . .

>>97893710
Is the movie good?
If so, would be sick

>>97893506
All your chaff is usuable to an extent, even mixing between them. Just make sure it's reinforced. Same goes for rotswords. The important thing is that you have some (relatively) mobile stuff to go with it, in your case the flies will probably do the trick, otherwise you can use sloven knights or something. But yeah rotswords are great at the moment.
I think nurgle's pretty powerful right now, fairly fun too, I think it's a decent way into bigmar. Ironjawz are alright too, but they were an early tome and they've never been very complex anyway, they're really really simple, which can be good or bad depending on what you want.

>>97893470
>mention a tranny
>post canned in under 5 minutes
>obvious, recurring shitposts always stay up
reminder they do it for free

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>>97893459
It's just a dark grey from the AP fanatic range with nuln oil over it. can't remember the exact name, sorry.
Finished them, though. Now I'm onto a daemonsmith I'm making out of the urak taar Kit's extra character model.