>>98154823
>What are the things that makes a warhammer 40k art piece a good art piece?
Doing something slightly new that other art pieces haven't done. Doesn't need to totally reinvent the wheel but should not be image #1929838 of Primaris Intercessor In Single Colour Unadorned Armour
Needs to be immersive and cool looking, or silly where appropriate
Stay lore accurate and reasonably on model, with slight room for artistic interpretation
No SJW shit, no AIslop except maybe as an assisting tool
Just be good art in general, with a consistently stylised or realistic art style, good colour composition, good proportions, etc

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WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WORKING ON? POST MODELS NOW

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>>98154849
Damn gotta find his little beard piece wherever it went

>>98154844
>carving out any caveat for slop at all
spit

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>>98154849
And these termies

>>98154844
For bonus points, a really good 40k art piece expands into the lesser known parts of the setting and gives them life, expanding on the world without breaking its themes

There's one edgy 40k art piece I saw here that's really stuck with me with horrible scenes from hive city life, e.g. lynch mobs stringing up mutants. It took the logical conclusion of "bloodiest regime imaginable" and ran with it

On a non 2D art note I also really liked the Necromunda FPS, it depicts every little mundane aspect of hive city life right down to the huge piles of paperwork in an Administratum office and the workers slaving away in Basedlens Viridian factories to fill shipping containers of corpse starch, which then get thrown into a crevasse because someone forgot to turn off the production line

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Picked this up recently. Excited I found it

>>98154857
I would consider using it to inpaint/erase, or upscale something you're photo bashing, as acceptable and not too different from using the "fill" tool in MS Paint, but that's where I draw the line

>>98154844
What is a good “nugw” era official art piece that you think checks all the boxes of your post?
I read your post and I agree with it all.

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Repostan the collage

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Let Chaos idols take this thread!

>>98154866
>There's one edgy 40k art piece I saw here that's really stuck with me with horrible scenes from hive city life, e.g. lynch mobs stringing up mutants. It took the logical conclusion of "bloodiest regime imaginable" and ran with it
If you can find it please post it.

>necromunda
If you’re actually referring to the fps game and not the turn based one then maybe I’d say they both somewhat do a good job of representing the atmosphere of the underhive.
Has there ever been a story of a guard regiment moved to an underhive for any military objective related reason?

Also oddly enough video games tend to have good music even if they are terrible games.
Is that with kill team that got taken off steam?
The rest?
Both necromunda games?
Has any autist compiled all the soundtracks of every Warhammer vidya game including the bad ones and the ones that got taken off steam?

I need some music for when I paint.

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>>98154426
Does anyone have a pdf of the Reign of Iron book?

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>>98154823
>What are the things that makes a warhammer 40k art piece a good art piece?
Nailing the aesthetics.

The appeal of this game is, mostly, aesthetic. Painting your minis, seeing them on the table, the entire rules, they are all in service of the power fantasy of /yourdudes/ doing whatever it is that /yourdudes/ are meant to do.

Note that be aesthetic I don't just mean art style. I mean the atmosphere, the subject and composition. A good 40k piece has to immediately feel like 40k.

Take the image you posted. The gothic buildings in the background as well as the obvious futuristic crusaders immediately tell you what kind of setting this is. The whole painting is framed by this dark and overbearing smoky sky, where explosions and fire take up most of the middle. There are hundreds of men all piled up fighting over a giant mount of blood, rubble, and their fallen comrades.
The nature of the setting, characters, and and the battle is immediately obvious. And it just feels cool

Thinking about using some sacrosanct stormcast bits to kitbash with emperors children, mainly just heads. I think there are some passable female heads in here, so I could probably turn the flawless blades into femboys, maybe giving them womb tattoos is an idea as well. Also maybe incorporating the actual helmets onto noise marines as well? Idk.
Also trying to figure out how to make a sorcerer for emp children with one of these bodies too.

>>98154876
>rat
>fag

>>98154890
stormcast heads are tiny compared to marine bare heads

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>>98154888
Also, David Gallagher's art is underappreciated. I only ever see the same few pieces from him posted.

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>>98154849
He's a little sloppy but I'm working on it. I am no professional.

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>>98154823
F

Do combat squads have a marking? I imagine they have markings of squads I through X, but when the two split, are there like X-1 and X-2? I don't recall reading anything about it in a codex but I could've glossed over it.
>>98154927
Good looking gent

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>>98154849
Working on my corsairs. Pretty happy with how the power sword is turning out. Photographing black minis is impossible though.

>>98154942
In the 2E codexes for marines and the divergent chapters the answer is no but that the guy with the banner (the squad leader [not to be confused with the sergeant]) leads the combat squad. Realistically he'd be like a corporal or something but rank minutia like that isn't a marine thing imo

>>98154942
No, units of 10 splitting into two units of 5 is an operational gimmick aimed to adjust to the current battlefield situation - it doesn't alter the organisational structure.

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>>98154849
not really working on anything after finishing up these. my thunderhawk is somewhere over the pacific right now and that is what my mind is focused on, getting ready to mod that.

>>98154958
>that is what my mind is focused on, getting ready to mod that.
Can't wait to see it

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>>98154942
Not really, it used to be a thing way back in ye olden days with banners and markings, but I don't think they actually flesh any of that out anymore.

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>>98154888
Well said anon

>>98154955
>>98154957
>>98154962
Gotcha, I won't worry about it then.

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>>98154849
Just starting with the base layer on some lychguard, but maybe I'll switch over and do my BT Marshall in JB's honour.

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>>98154959
thanks anon, I'll be basing it off this old ass sketch of an inquisitor's gun-cutter. obviously removing the main gun is part of it, but also scratch building the nose and cutting up parts of a blackstar for cool bits.

>>98154967
If you want to get into the uber autism of chapter/company structure, check out the old second edition codexes, they're a treasure trove for this stuff that I also eat up

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I was thinking of a daemon price whose form is a flower made from hundreds of its bodies as it looked as a mortal, inspired by this pic (might be AI or ai touched dunno but its cool trippy imagery that inspried me)
But I'm worried having some daemon prince who is motionless like a plant is at total odds with what daemon princes are as evil daemons actively leading dark armies for their god. Thoughts?

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>Finally managed to turn 9th edition basic rules into a raw .docx file
Jesus, what a hassle. Nevertheless even a small milestone is still a milestone.
Are you working on anything hobby-related that is not building and painting?

>>98154985
Give it tentacle-like roots so it can move.

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>>98154823
>What are the things that makes a warhammer 40k art piece a good art piece?
It still needs to look like bashing action figures together.

>>98154993
fair point, but the crhacter of the daemon prince was that it is some mad prophet who predicts the future, but is highly schizophrenic and babbles nonesense from most of its heads and prone to bouts extreme emotional switching. So you have to sit and listen to it crying, raging, babbling to try and find some truth. I dunno might work better as just some type of Chaos Spawn than a full daemon prince. It's just useful enough to tolerate the time you need to appease it.

>>98155001
How about his main flower-body being planted on a very specific soil transported in the flagship while his splinter bodies act as his drone-avatars and commanding Chaos Champions?

>>98155002
That's an interesting idea. Would the splinter bodies be smaller flowers or just like, his normal body? Obviously I like anything that would make it more plant like, so individual 'prunings' that are just one or a few of his body being planted that grow into other flowers would be really creepy and strange as daemons should be.

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Any other dwarf niggas here? How do you do your ironkin domes? Is it inaccurate to give them different colors?

>>98155008
I think they should be more human-like to actually perform their combat-oriented tasks but nothing stops you from tying them up in a unified aesthetic by making them share 1-2 common elements related to the main body. Perhaps they all should have helmets or shoulder pads shaped like the main body's flower petals? Possibilities are endless.

>>98154875
which one was your favorite, anons?

>>98154891
>rag

Hopefully the DP cost of the chaos detachments you need to take to use daemons will be cheap. I can't see them cost that much since their benefits are situational.

>>98155048
>frag
1-800-Come-On-Now

>>98155016
>Is it inaccurate to give them different colors?
Dont see why it would be, they're your models after all

>>98155016
I love your paint job and choice of paint colors.
If you’re still here what paints did you use and on your basing please?

>>98155046
Reviewing the entries is contrary to the collage spirit.

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I really don't need another army but those orks look really good and more marines never hurt

>>98154849
90% done with a psychophage (Need to paint debris on base and fumes from stacks as well as touchups.) Assembling Cthonian Earthshakers.

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Was there ever a non-Jump Pack and non-Termie profile in vanilla CSM or SM range that let you field a full unit of nothing but double-lightning claw Marines? You used to be able to op out from Jump Packs for you Vanguard Vets, is that correct?

>>98155152
Fairly sure veterans in 4th (and likely beyound) could take crux terminatus, which let them pick whatever in the arsenal

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>>98154849

>>98154823
I like orks :D

>>98154985
Cool art, where is it from?

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>>98155190
cute

>>98155016
Votann are all about "hand-craft a dude for this one specific task" so just homebrew that onto the fishbowls somehow like they've got different optic hardware for their needs.

>>98154873
If you've ever seen the 40k calendar it ticks most of those
>>98154879
Darktide has you battling Traitor Guard regiment in the underhive, and a great OST as well, although I don't personally recommend buying it as Fatshark is owned by a Chinese internet surveillance company now (TenCent)

Newfag here, building babby's first army currently
When do we find out points values changes?
Can they change the loadouts of sergeants for intercessors/assault intercessors?
I have about 9 more muhreens I can build - should I build some different loadouts in case?

I've built a bolt pistol/power weapon sergeant for one Ass. intercessor squad, and one power fist/plasma pistol Sgt for another, and just saw a video which mentioned something about Ass intercessor sergeants losing their plasma pistol, did I misunderstand?

Did the aircraft rework make Ork flyers good or am I being a retard?
>wait for a good angle on a priority horde/vehicle target
>drop a dakkajet/wazbom on its ass and merc the thing in a single activation
>disregard if it dies to counter-fire because it traded already and lol ork points investment

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Will votann get a dreadnought equivelant at some point?
What about a knight equivelant?

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What do we think of the new Vanguard Vets?

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>>98155260
>dreadnough equivalent
I hope
>knight
Let's hope not

>>98155264
the pushfit are shit, hopefully the multipart will only be mediocre

>>98155264
I bought two boxes of the current version just to be safe.

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>>98155260
One can can dream.

>>98155264
>built all of mine with inferno pistols and hand flamers
rip me

Why can’t GW write a good ruleset?

>>98155285
Because their good game designers keep leaving. It's GW's fault.

>>98155285
game is secondary to the hobby of minis and painting

>>98155285
If rules are bad, you can just change the rules yourself to be more balanced if you're playing with friends

>>98155285
because GW is a model company, not a games company, silly.

>>98155314
GAMES workshop

>>98155285
because at the lead of projects there aren't competent people but people that have been connected with the company the longest

because the company is selling too much to risk making changes too drastic, even if they could be good, so they only do very minimal shifts

because the rules are to be written with the lowest basic consumer in mind and cannot be complex, or require additional tools or hobby work

>>98155285
Because they do not need to. People buy the miniatures anyway.

>>98155320
They still sell games.

>>98155285
They sell good rulesets. You as a player might think they are bad, but they as the salesmen would tell you they are great rules: because they make you buy lots of miniatures.

Whenever you look at wargaming rules by a company who also sells the models for the game, you need to keep in mind that selling as many models is their biggest motivator. So rules are written with "sell many models"-focus first, and "is it fun?" is only asked as a secondary objective. - Some games and rulesets can achieve both, and others can't. But that does not necessarily mean they are bad rules for the company that makes them.

>>98155285
Poor balance equals more miniatures sold

>>98155320
Yes, GW argued in court they are a miniatures company, not a games company, during the chapter house case.

>>98155285
Brits aren’t capable of making good games. Leave game design to the Asians.

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>>98155194
I got it from pinterest, 99% sure its pure ai but based on the artstyle of Gustave Doré, who did all the super famous depicitons of Dantes Inferno and biblical scenes

>>98155358
Name one good asian wargame

>>98155285
Because bad rules sell better. 40k was never a good game - even pre-5e editions were okayish at best compared with other well-written games. Bad games get a lot of traction though, much more than good games. You barely see people praising great games compared with the constant flood of more-or-less unhappy opinions.

>>98155367
Obsidian protocol is a wargame I’m closely keeping an eye on, granted it’s Chinese. Also wasn’t battletech an Asian thing at first?

>>98155358
>Leave game design to the Asians.
I think you meant Japanese.
Chinese can only make casinos disguised as games, and South Koreans can only make grindan simulators. None of the rest of the continent has made vidya of note.

>>98155376
>Obsidian protocol is a wargame I’m closely keeping an eye on
The question was to name a good wargame. Is it a good wargame or not?

>>98155361
I don't think it's AI. Look more like a collage.

>>98155376
>Also wasn’t battletech an Asian thing at first?
No.

>>98155376
I'm not saying Obsidian Protocol is bad, but its not out yet, so what exactly makes it good? And more specifically, what makes it better than anything from the UK?

>>98155381
>vidya

We are not talking about video games. Warhammer 40k is not a video game, so whenever we discuss "games" in /40kg/, we are talking about wargames.
And if the answer to
>Why cant GW write a good ruleset
is
>Leave game desgin to the Asians

The context is pretty much very clear that its about rulebooks for wargames, not video games from asia.

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if i could only afford one, do you recommend an exocrine or a tyrannofex?

Kinda slow recently. Maybe decalfag really was like 50% of all posts each thread.

>>98155460
the tyrannofex is cooler

>>98155469
It's entirely possible if you also count the retards shitposting at him. Not complaining though, usually slower thread equals better quality.

I'm thinking to build some shanty town terrain. Something more vertical. Can you give me any material/guides/ideas to do it?

>>98155168
howd you achieve the blends between the yellow and orange? looks great

Ordered enough things from a store that they sent me one of those generic intercessor painting demo sprues as a gift. Which is good because now I have a victim for the primers I want to test out.
Do the beeg battleforce boxes come out anytime besides christmas?

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>>98154849
These guys. Hopefuly I'll be done for the collage.
Unless we're doing blanchitsu like that one anon proposed last thread.

>>98155434
I just gave you the benefit of the doubt thinking you wouldn't be retarded enough to suggest that the Asian continent are masters of tabletop boardgame design.

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>>98155518
Collage anon last thread said this month is Blanchitsu

>>98155235
Guise?

>>98155518
It's your call of quick and nimble and/or Blanchitsu.
>>98154677
>On that note I just found out about John Blanche's passing. I think we should have "blanchistu" be an additional optional theme this month in his memory. Hope that's cool with everyone.

>>98155530
Lmao, well putting my harlequins on the back door again. Maybe I'll cook up a blanchitsu harlequin somehow

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>>98154823
>What are the things that makes a warhammer 40k art piece a good art piece?

you need to have everything cranked up to 11. thats it. thats the only requirement.

drawing space marines? alright, those should be the most heroic, desperate last stand, bolters blazing chainswords revving emperors chosen heroes standing in the face of oblivion space marines ever.

drawing the imperium? cool, show me the hyper techno medieval europunk meatgrinder cybernetics with castles and ships so large its difficult to comprehend how they even exist while untold billions march their streets as humanities wretched squallor clogs every crevice of the galaxy

drawing eldar? i want gleaming gemstones and impossibly beautiful alien architecture, a landscape dreamlike and organic yet hauntingly artificial, a world and a people with such poise and grace that they flit through the skies and dance on the tips of blades

just whatever it is, make it the most it can be. a lot of the new art, especially the primaris promo art is just so fucking tame and flaccid, here's two corporate products in a fistfight. it lacks the detail, the scale and scope, the excessiveness, the over the top bombastic and all encompassing awe and horror that 40k is meant to inspire

>>98155016
I just do them in boltgun metal. Yours look good though. I really like the black one.

>>98155469

For every decalmutant post there was like 3-4 dudes dogging him lol

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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

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>>98155544
nothing quite illustrates the loss of ability to portray that "crank it up to 11" factor in my opinion than stacking an old rendition and a new rendition of a similar scene next to each other

the new stuff is so god damn clinical and clean, you can practically feel the suits standing over the artists shoulder breathing down their neck "make sure it looks like the product. make it on model"

>>98155569
In your anus?

Dark Eldar women owe me sex

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>>98155580
100%, there's small attempts to getting back to the old wild messy/filled with small detail look. Pic related, but now that guy doesnt make art anymore and is the director of mini development. Maybe if we get refreshed/redesigned daemons we could get some really cool shit

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>>98155587
in a way the decline of 40k mirrors the in universe setting, of the old civilizations being the shining peak and the modern version being decaying, full of ignorance, forgotten techniques and lost art

ironic

>>98155599
>>98155580
The new art looks like it was done with contrast paint. Lost all vibrancy and color for a more "smooth" finish.

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Is dark mech more advanced than admech or are they more regressive?

>TQ
You need to do something different.
Why should I look at your artwork? What's special about it?
If your artwork is just a picture of a miniature, it's pointless. If your artwork retraces what's already been done but worse (like >>98155580), it's worse than pointless.

Warhammer art pieces are a window into the universe, and I don't want the window to show me a concret façade, I want the window to show me a forest far away after the hills, beyond the ruins of an old windmill.

>>98155624
>advanced
In what aspects? Demon fuckery and forbidden (xeno) tech? Yes.

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>>98155460
The Casino Cannon brings something Nids badly lack. The Exocrine is nice and you'll want it too, but on the Tyrannofex that big gun will be a game saver (if you're lucky)

>>98155624
Why's she doing the 6 7 gesture?

>>98155624
I always thought that like CSM, they are poor equipped and worse supply lines that they compensate with daemons.

>>98155637
This can be one aspect, but at the same time, they have no artificial restrains. They would openly experiment with xeno tech, fuse demonflesh and literal demons into that, and combine it with a demolisher cannon or a bolter. And sometimes, the end result might actually work.

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>>98155624
Demon engines>Da Vinci designs
Simple as.

>>98155632
Just curious if they’re technological ceiling is higher than the imperiums, I’m not expecting them to compete with something like Eldar or necrons.

>>98155152
Both flavors of command squad could
>You used to be able to op out from Jump Packs for you Vanguard Vets, is that correct?
Correct

>>98155646
Well, its not said they do not use Da Vinci designs. They could do both.

>>98155647
Their ceiling is absolutely higher, because the dogmas of mars hinder free thinking, and free research. Their stuff should be more wacky, weird and unique.

Idk if anyone here gaf, but some guy at my LGS made a 11th edition cheat sheet which I thought was pretty useful.

https://artificialanaleptic.github.io/WH40K11thEd.FieldManual/

>>98155624
>Is dark mech more advanced
no

>>98154823
Does 11th still have the Battle Ready 10VP?

>>98155624
I hope they keep the Silica Mutus if they ever come out.
I like the idea of spider robots with synapse.

>>98155530
Correction, blanchitsu and/or quick and nimble

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>>98155624
Don't know if more advanced (considering the can use Xeno shit and demonic stuff they should be) but at least a lot more creepy.

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>new detachments don't have their DP cost or dispositions in their entries.
So GW is keeping those for the MFM then, eh? I guess that means they plan to change and adjust both of those as they go.

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>>98154849
Now that defilers make emperors children a functional army I actually want to play them

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>>98155624
After 40 years of being totall ignored in setting its hard to say. Individual forge world rulers in admech probably have some of the most advanced tech in the setting, that can rival dark eldar and necrons and other super advanced races. But its all hoarded away and secret because their whole religion is hoarding knowledge. Darkmech is probably the same, hoarding great daemon binding techniques, AI, captured alien AIs, daemon Ai fusions and tech they just invent themsevles. I do think dark mech should have scary freaky shit never seen before when you face them, which is quite demaning creatively because they should have so many tricks up their sleeves you don't see the same shit twice

>>98155700
>I do think dark mech should have scary freaky shit never seen before when you face them, which is quite demaning creatively because they should have so many tricks up their sleeves you don't see the same shit twice

The problem is, GW will settle for one theme for them, out of the 100 possibilites. Similar how AdMech is DaVinci styled, or Genestealers are all Miners. For sure, there might be some forge worlds with Da Vinci looking vehicles, and for sure many Genestealers settle in mining worlds, but its not 100% of them.
And the same will happen with DarkMech if they ever get a miniature range. And sadly, since 30k already has some stalk tanks for them, this direction is no longer available for 40k. So they will find a different look for them.

When do you think gw will pay people to test their game

>>98155708
>And sadly, since 30k already has some stalk tanks for them, this direction is no longer available for 40k
They'd have a different design (probably following the same fleshmetal design as the daemon engines) but I doubt they'd get cut entirely.

>>98155708
this

also the line will be tiny (1 walker 1 transport 1 "tank" 2-3 different kinds of infantry and some characters

3 years later they'll get a another bunch of minor characters and maybe some jump infantry

But we added the defilers and forgefiends to the codex so you can just paint those in dark mech colors!

>>98155708
Sounds awful as fuck ngl, specially considering the vast universe of possibilities "body horror", "monstruos machinery" and "corrupted technology" open for a range.

>>98155708
>GW will settle for one theme for them
They're theme seem to be snails, molluscs and sea creatures like that. eyes on stalks seems to be something they've settled on for them, so expect their designs to start from there

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i really love how the new ork designs are all in on the bullet belt aesthetic

>>98155728
>They're theme seem to be snails, molluscs and sea creatures like that.
Has there been new art I'm unaware of? Or is this based on the Legions stuff?

>>98155739
Im not a fan but im not really a big fan of green niggas to begin with.

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>>98154849
starting to regret my choice to do nmm on this model

>>98155743
The legions stalk tank and the Negavolt cultusts both have eye stalks
>>98155685
the two blue rounded pipes in his hair are his eyes

>>98155748
looks like mustard.

>>98155748
Looks good to me at least. Very ncie job on the blade so far.

>>98155739
yeah, it fits the dakkadakkadakkadakka-orks

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>>98155753
>the two blue rounded pipes in his hair are his eyes
I see, and now I take a closer look at the stalk tanks I can see them amongst the claw tendrils.
Honestly if they keep channeling 'machines from the matrix' energy I'll probably be a day one buyer.

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>>98155748
ope

>>98155777
It's probably too much work at this point but you should've added some blue hues to the shadows instead of going pure black. The values and blends are good though.

>>98155775
fair, personally eyes on stalk give me the worst ick for some reason and would kill my interest in collecting them. Its not cool to me just sickening and repulsive, and not in a fun way like nurgle or slaaneshi torture is

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>98155708
Roll 1d6 and pick your Dark Mech Aesthetic!
>1. Frankenstein Biopunk
>2. Faceless Dieselpunk
>3. Jules Verne Steampunk
>4. Rusty Martian Raygun
>5. Geigeresque Clockwork
>6. Porcelain Plates Insects

>>98155791
>personally eyes on stalk give me the worst ick for some reason and would kill my interest in collecting them. Its not cool to me just sickening and repulsive, and not in a fun way like nurgle or slaaneshi torture is
I'm prepared to accept I'm the weird one for liking this kind of fleshmetal bodyhorror.

>>98155794
Of all the flavors the worst one...

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How do you feel about painting your dudes as one of the official Chapters but giving them custom squad markings and numbers? I want to paint my small 1st Company army as the White Scars 1st Brotherhood but I am not a huge fan of their squad markings. I think they would benefit from a bit of variety, namely by adding crescent moon and stars icons. I think that would fit the theme and save me from painting those fucking zigzags.

>>98155794
>Geigeresque Clockwork
Not the biggest fan of clockwork type aesthetics, its a thin line between that and full blown steampunk which is too strongly associated with millennial quirk chungus epic sauce narwhals bacon at midnight shit for me to ever like. Geriger bio mechanical, where biological stuff is grown to fill technological roles, like the space jockey is fucking sick and something I wish darkmech used

>>98155016
I do Vallejo Metal Color Silver and then glaze a bit with Akhelian Green contrast to make it look like a glass dome.

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>>98154849
Finally finished up all smaller Forgefiend subassemblies, gonna start working on the body now

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>>98155544
Good post.
>>98155624
I think dark mech are most likely like this:

>You have no restrictions on your tech development
>you have access to demons and literal magic
>In theory, you can do whatever the fuck you want
>you have unlimited power of science and magic

>but Chaos be Chaos
>last week you were halfway towards developing the recipe for cloning Horus, but some dipshit Khornate barbarian rampaged through your laboratory and killed all your test subjects
>You made the ultimate Giant Enemy Crab, but a Slaaneshi came along and fucked it for massive damage
>You made a Nurgle-empowered demon which proceeded to turn on you and give you SUPER HEMORRHOIDS. you had to spend all year self-medicating
>Right on the moment of your greatest bio-mechanical triumph you had spent weeks creating, Tzeentch thought it would be funny to turn all your new warriors into Chaos Spawn
>You can't get your factory workers to show up to work, because they're busy enjoying their escape from the rigid authoritarian lifestyle of the Imperium and can't be held down
>You don't have access to the Adeptus Mechanicus's vast interplanetary logistical network of ships and factories; only whatever you can scrounge from recently conquered worlds that haven't stopped burning yet, and Loyalist tech which has a large hole blown through the middle of it
>The most you can practically manage is to magically graft a bunch of demon tentacles onto an old Chaos dreadnought and call it a day

Just look at these guys in pic related. You think you could get them to sit down for even an hour and learn about soldering, and the difference between ohms and watts?

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>>98155811
Chaos is one hell of a ride uh? Even when you are a super genius mad scientist

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>>98155811
i can fix them.

>>98155811
I imagine much like the Admech they prefer lobotomizing their workforce into servitors rather than learning managerial skills.

>>98155827
There's one big issue with a lobotomized workforce: they tend to get drool in the keyboard when you're trying to get them to write scrapcode

>>98155839
I imagine they would have a similar set up as deldar Haemonculi and wracks. Anything technical would be left to trainned dark tech priests and people trying to impress the boss to get taught shit

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>>98155739
what is this adorable little fellow?

>>98155846
Bringing up Deldar leads me to another great point I forgot.
>Raise up second-in-command, Sneaky Vilius Scumm, who shows promise at doing the more technical parts of your job
>he stabs you in the back the second you turn away
>the Chaos gods fully endorse this behaviour as consistent with their organisational core values and Mission Statement
>He becomes your successor
>He raises up a new assistant, Stabbicus Backus
>Rinse and repeat
>Meanwhile no actual work is getting done from all the constant scheming and backstabbing
This is particularly prevalent in Tzeenchian hierarchies

>>98155855
The cutest squig in the universe

Do you think dedicated transports will be good in 11th?

>>98155864
If an Imperial Noble kept a tiny little squig as a pet would it spread ork spores and doom his planet to have random ork bandits popping up?

>>98155863
Skaven behavior fitting for Chaos.

>>98155846
With the same pitfalls of having to watch your underlings for the slightest hint of betrayal.
Which is of course why you keep the best tech heresy looted from the Vaults of Moravec under lock and key.

>>98155869
Hopefully because such heretical act must have serious consequences, Emperor protects.

>>98155867
The disembark changes don't look good

Reeks of a balance change done to get people to drop transports and buy other models to fill their role

>>98155877
What's heretical about it? You don't think nobles keep pets?

>>98155867
Probably not for 1W armies with the new Hazardous rules killing 33% of their occupants if they are destroyed or combat disembark while engaged and leaving them with new persistent Battleshock. Not to mention deadly demise hurting the occupants now.
2W and 3W units will still like them though.

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>>98155867
No

>>98155879
i have never known how to not see them as a waste of points
extra movement that gets you killed just as much as it lets you reach your enemies
when you can just bring more guns to shoot them more wherever they are

>>98155881
Yes a space dog or genetically engineered eagle, not a mutant spore monster.

>>98155872
>>98155863
Chaos is capable of producing long term loyalty between overlord and underlings. Otherwise they'de be no traitor legions or black legion. If fucking world eaters can have set leaders darkmech can. If anything they should be too loyal, each dark tech priests has his cult of underlining waging war on rival tech priests

>>98155892
>>98155884
Jesus Christ, doesn't this just kill Dark Eldar as a faction?

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>>98155897
How exactly does one tell the difference when picrel is the most domesticated animal in the Imperium?

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>>98155869
a single squig likely wouldn’t cause any trouble. it simply isn’t be able to spread enough spores to cause an infestation, and its even more unlikely because the noble will keep the squig indoors where everything would be regularly cleaned, so even if lone spores could grow into orkoids, they would be immediately destroyed by routine cleanings.

>>98155898
Black Legion is a prime example of my point, they are constantly fighting other Chaos warbands to try and bring them into the fold, Abaddon regularly fights upstarts

It's not that Chaos can never get anything done, but infighting, treachery and general retardation does hold them back from their full potential (even more than it does for the Imperium)

>>98155869
yes, but also no

>>98155624
6....7.....

>>98155902
this is the equivalent of someone in 40K asking how someone during M2 is able to tell the difference between a cow and a goat.

>>98155260
If Squats get a Knight instead of a land train there will be a riot.

>>98155016
dwarf nigga here, I use Warplock Bronze

>>98155260
>Will votann get a dreadnought equivelant at some point?
yes, and it will be a callback to the first dreadnought design

>>98155376
Battletech was westerners buying anime art from a distributor that didn't actually have the rights to it.

The other big Japanese wargame, Gundam Senki, was an adaptation of Mekton II.

>>98155431
Obsidian Protocol is out but its not. Very weird. A bunch of kickstarter orders finally made it to shelves so people are singing its praises but those all sold out within like a month so now everyone's waiting for the post-KS 2-player starter set which doesn't look like nearly the same deal.

>>98155855
Looks to be a mole squig

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Does anyone in the Imperium know the Xenos created mankind? How would they react if they knew?

>>98155929
So did she name her chainsword Heidi? Or is her name Heidi and she's just putting her name on her gear so all the other Inquisitors know this is her chainsword?

>>98156002
Fake news, Heretical thoughts, to the pyre!

>>98156002
>Does anyone in the Imperium know the Xenos created mankind?
not many, no

>>98155264
>no flamer pistols
well there goes one idea for an army i woulda bought them for

>>98155637
>half of the mechanicus belongs to them
>doesn't have to fund a billion worlds

>>98155895
Depends on the faction. Votann are pretty transport reliant since they have 5" move and short ranged guns.

>>98156074
>>98155278
Relax, it's just the rules for the mono pose kit in the Box. They will get their full rules with the multi-pose kit and the Codex release in a couple of months.

>>98155624
I think it depends because they can just do what they want but they have to deal with daemons in their stuff plus general chaos shenanigans.

>>98156098
Flashbacks from when my chaos kept getting shit taken away from 3rd-5th edition and found it in the loyalist codexes along the line....
i guess loyalists wont get the chaos treatment

>>98156106
I remember wanting to start a CSM army after looking at the 3rd edition codex only for the 5th edition codex to completely strip the faction bare, it was heinous.

>>98155667
wheres hidden?

>>98156134
>5th edition codex
4th.

>>98156145
Was that the 4th one? This was around 2009, I could be mixing up my editions big time.

>>98156148
>>98156145
Its the deadtimes that made me leave. I tried to come back in 8th/9th and I was discouraged again.

>>98156156
Yeah that's what I did too, I was fed up with the CSM codex and the IG codex wasn't as great. I came back in 8th because my favourite faction got an army, but they turned were pretty quasimodo in terms of design. At least the models are great.

>>98156148
CSM didn't have a codex release in 5e. There was the 4e that fucked it all up. Next codex came out in 6e.

>>98156164
Yep my editions are completely mixed up then, could've swore that was 5th the whole time.

>>98154942
I’d like to encourage you to come up with your own squad system markings. I run 5 man ultras and have a should pad color system for ranking in unit that’s all headcannon anyway. It helps me recognize the sgt and is a fun in my head narrative

>>98156002
The Old Ones took a part in raising them up from apes but didn't create them.
Sauce: lore i saw somewhere else and cannot find

>>98156033
Killing Heidi?

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>>98156051
And those that do like Cawl, how does this affect them?

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>>98156203
Nah. Humanity is the final curse of the Old Ones

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>>98156211
it doesn't look like it does

>>98155794
In my perfect world they would look like some horrific cyborg shit like the movies Virus or Frankenstein's Army

>>98156230
That's a fucking sick way to describe the human race in universe. I wish the more in teh know xenos characters like Vect. Necrons, Eldar who study at the blck library would just refer to humanity as the Old Ones final curse.

>>98155046
The Gue’vesa tank is really cool

Nice to see that they could pump out one anemic paragraph for John Blanche.

>>98156312
They didn't do one for Ansell so its something

>Beastmen being removed from AoS caused such a big reaction that even 40k players all heard of it
What would cause an even bigger reaction for 40k then? Dark Eldar now a Craftworld Eldar detachment? Necromunda being destroyed?

>>98156318
I guess this is the new guard after all, a new era or whatever.

>>98156321
femspace marines. Space marines going extinct except for csm

Word Bearers killteam soon.

>>98156321
Good. Fuck them furries.

>>98156321
I'm 100% sure the rightful retcon of Custodes, Grey Knights and Deathwatch as standalone factions would do, Imperiumfags whine too much.

>>98156321
Beastmen never have been popular, honestly i wish they take them out of Thousands sons too.

>Like the silver, cyan, and light green on Alpha Legion
>Like the Hoplite helmets of them
>Will have to likely buy multiple of their heads to create an entire army of Alpha Legion with it though
What's stopping GW from making Alpha Legion and Word Bearer unique models or upgrade parts for this since they've done it with Night Lords, Iron Warriors, and Red Corsairs?
Speaking of these parts, is the only way to get a whole army with those unique designs for Night Lords, Iron Warriors, and Red Corsairs is buying the Combat Patrols?

>>98156343
popularity?

>>98156321
We had ours, it was the Squats.

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Has anyone tried one of these things for mold lines? It has a thick zirconia blade so it's easier to use, lasts longer, and is harder to maim yourself with.

>>98155801
Just do what you want, i know things are getting more homogenized but the core of mini painting is customization

>>98156002
>comical tree-beasts
>that was before the God War
Sorry, but all this is effectively retconned when GW decided it would be cooler to set the War in Heaven 60 million years ago. At best you could claim the Old Ones seeded life on earth and that eventually evolved into mammals, primates, and humans.

>Roboute Guilliman (pronounced Ruh-BOOT-ay GIL-li-man)

What the fuck.

>>98156375
bri'ish

>GW has deal going on where if I buy 3 of any of these items on this table, I get all of it 50% off
>There's two Battleforces of the Red Corsairs, a Battleforce for the Emperor's Children, a bunch of Spearheads, so e Killteams, and other shit
Should I do it?

>>98156395
no

>>98156370
The figure of 60 million years is the same back then and now. Look up when the first primates appeared on Terra.
It was 60 million years ago

>>98156395
>a bunch of spearheads
Depending on which ones they have I'd just pick 3 of these

>>98156395
You mean your LGS, right?
And yeah. You can sell what you're not going to use.

>>98156395
WHICH WAY CHAOS MAN?
>crack fiends, /mu/ audiophiles, and stick thin metrosexuals
>FUCKIN' [PIRATES]

>>98156416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQRLk0QrbEk

Precipice is so cool. Shame it will never get used outside the Blackstone Fortress game and GW has memory holed (delisted) this video

>>98156425
hasn't precipice been destroyed in the last act?

>>98156416
whoops didnt mean to reply >>98156425

>>98156415
No, actual Games Workshop.

>>98156425
Howd you find this video? Did you just have the link saved or did you know a way to watch unlisted videos? There's so many vids now unlisted I wish I saved

>>98156321
I think most of the 40K community expects all the Eldar ranges to be merged eventually. There wouldn't be that much outrage except from a few small players of a nobody faction and some scalies still still expecting exodites to be a full range all on their own

Human faction for this feeling?
>Fuck the Imperium
>Fuck Chaos
>Fuck Xenos
>I do whatever the fuck I want, damn to hell everyone else

>>98156462
Your dudes, whatever secret micro empires rogue traders have set up and kept supplied hidden from the Imperial tithe system

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>>98154849
Still the chinork warkopta project. Last couple days have been spent detailing the turbines. At this point I think I am settled on doing a combo wheel + skate landing assembly, I had forgotten that the Chinook had pontoon attachments for its landing wheels so having skate still feels appropriate.

>>98156467
I thought Red Corsairs and Night Lords are this though?

>>98156462
votann

>>98156477
no, they're chaos worshippers and have xenos friends

>Chaos Spawn constantly getting sold out
But why though? Does the model need a refresh too?

If I were to buy the Red Corsairs Battle Force, what should I also buy to make it 1000 points? Would Huron and his gang make it over 1000?

>>98156511
Because they're useful and 6 different armies can use them even though they're ugly as FUCK. They definitely need a refresh, but they're also the easiest model ever to kitbash or proxy.

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>>98156511
They're the oldest models still sold by GW right, mabe a bit younger than the atrocious chaos biker models. They're refresh is long overdue

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>>98156462

>>98156528
>right
wrong

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>>98156404
>here's your Old One creation, bro

>>98156440
Nta but you can sometimes still find links from other websites to the original videos

Why did Red Corsairs flop but the Iron Warriors sold out like hot cakes?

>>98156524
The Lords of the Maelstrom battleforce box plus Masters of the Maelstrom (with Huron) make 950 points, you can make up the rest with enhancements

>>98156462
Inquisition Ordo Hermalexenos

>>98156524
It’s all infantry so I would get some demon engines and/or vehicles to have a more well rounded force.

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I hope we get some cool stuff for admech in 11th.

>>98156591
I want a techpriest seers' council, they could be a kill team and could split up into a bunch of characters for 40k.

>>98156511
Most chaos armies being able to use them just leads to lots of people wanting to pick up a box or two. Not only that but the spawn box has tons of left over stuff after you build them. If you want a whole bunch of extra spikes/tentacles/whatever for kitbashing the spawn box has plenty extra chaosy bits that are nice to have on hand. Plus for being such old models I don't think they look that bad personally. Updated models would still be nice though.

>>98156591
same but I still need to get the heavy skittles and that tech priest lady first

>>98156477
red corsairs definitely aren’t that. their leader is a servant of chaos now, and they employ the help of tarellian dog soldiers.
night lords are a bit closer, but still aren’t really. the problem is that chaos worship is so prevalent among traitors that outright spurning them is pretty much a death sentence, so they still have to play nice with them, and because they let chaos worshippers get their foot in the door, there are many night lords in majority agnostic warbands that worship chaos and spread it around which further complicates attempts to distance themselves from chaos. and they are also liable to dabble with xenos because they are so undersupplied.

>>98156579
Would a Helbrute or Chaos Rhino/Land Raider work?

>>98156601
I like the heavy skitties but I wish they modeled a big gun on the alpha given it's part of their wargear, guess I'll have to figure something out.

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>>98156602
> liable to dabble with xenos because they are so undersupplied.
I think you meant to say, Nightlords are just bros who easily make friends with others.
>Deathwatch killed loads of our xenos friends
>Raid the fortress and literally kill them all

>>98156602
>and they are also liable to dabble with xenos because they are so undersupplied
So Dark Eldar then as they got a whole ass section in Commorragh dedicated to Mercenary work.

>>98156606
Weah why not, but a rhino's more for just moving dudes around, not a good damage dealer. A helbrute or land raider can be great for damage though.

>>98156528
Pretty sure the Falcon Grav-Tank is the oldest model still in production.

>>98156462
A rogue GSC planet?

>>98156607
Not him but ye hastarii are neat. But I do wish they had something like heavy bolters as am option it would look cool.

>>98156626
they fuck xenos alright

>>98156462
Renegade marine chapter.
And no, not all of them are chaos worshippers, and neither do all of them become that.

>>98156628
I was hoping they'd have options too, maybe like some big phosphor blaster but they do have mini ones on the anti-vehicle weapons at the very least.

>>98156626
That's basically Twisted Helix. The read between the lines is that they're still puppets of the Tyranids, they've just convinced themselves otherwise, but as far as the attitude they present it's basically, "humans can biologically be more than they are, and genestealers are a tool to that end."

>>98156646
>And no, not all of them are chaos worshippers, and neither do all of them become that.
literal denial

>>98156646
name one that isn’t like that.

>>98156670
Ashen Claws
Knights of Blood

>>98156567
Which fits the comical tree creatures bit.

>>98156567
>>98156679
What's funny to me is that there's some scene with C'tan that said it "recognized" humans as Old Ones creation.
So either the C'tan is mistaking humans for eldar, possible since it's been repeated numerous times in the fluff how humans and eldar are remarkbly similiar.
Or the C'tan has become senile as fuck and hallucinating humans as some hairy squirrels.

>>98156709
or the ctan knows what the creations of the old ones have in common and look like regardless of their distant origins

and that ctan in particular was fully aware of everything going on in the galaxy despite being locked in a basement

>>98156679
But not the "Old Ones created mankind" bit, not the way people like to regurgitate it as if humans are in the same boat as Eldar or Kroks. It's just stupid; are we really going to sit here and say that they created cute little tree rats just to check the sci-fi trope box of an ancient progenitor race being responsible for EVERYTHING in the modern setting? Why? How does the Old Ones jacking off in the primordial soup on earth improve the setting?

>>98156736
This. They should do "Humanity are actually Old Ones" instead. ESPECIALLY "Human cavemen created everything and are the Old Ones all along" Could you imagine how awesome it would be in 40k if they revealed the Old Ones were human cavemen? We could have fucking psykers with power clubs riding dinosaurs. Human Lord Kroak equivalents beating people with stone axes and spears made of necrodermis or some super metal.

Even better, make them Space Marines.
The War In Heaven was actually a battle between several Chapters and Warbands of time-displaced Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines sent sixty million years into the past. These battles were witness by the primitive Aeldari and Necrontyr, who the loyalists and traitors found and gang-pressed respectively. At this time the Aeldari were much more similar to Humans physically, which led to the Loyalists seeing them as abhumans instead of xenos. The CSM simply didn't care and enslaved the Necrontyr.
To this end it becomes evident that the Old Ones and the C'tan are not actually xenos, but are Marines deified by the primitive xenos.
Biotransference is, in reality, a Warp plague concoted by Vashtorr and unleashed by the Traitor Warpsmiths upon the Necrontyr.
The Aeldari were tought to harness their Psychic potential by Loyalist Librarians, while the Aeldari 'gods' were merely the various Marine Captains as well as the leaders of the attached Imperial forces.
Could you imagine a 40k where everyone is a Space Marine? Every human. Every Xenos. Every Chaos God and Daemon.
You know what I want to see? Some VSM kills an Eldar or Ork. He grabs the head for a trophy and underneath, he finds somehow that there's a Space Marine helmet underneath the skin. Then he looks to his men, realizing he can see vague Astartes patterned shapes in their skulls. He looks in the mirror, realizing the same. Then he one day through some method that let's him see his patron Chaos God.

The Chaos God is a Space Marine too.

>>98156462
That's the iconoclast route in the rogue trader videogame.

There's multiple places like that in the setting, the galaxy is vast enough that a rich noble, rogue trader, rogue warlord, etc could feasibly create a little empire if it's small enough and self-sufficient enough to not be noticed. If you go rogue, the imperium destroys you, but it stands to reason that some people could remain hidden. In the rogue trader videogame, if you go this route, you have to fend off a retributive campaign from the imperium, and that can go a few different ways. But in some endings, you succeed, and you get your little free-thinking utopia (and some variations therein where some things aren't so great).

>>98156763
We get it, you played Halo.

>>98154823
I haven't played since 7th. What's this about the fucking Emperor reviving? The primarchs are bad enough, but now the CENTERPIECE dead skeleton guy too? Come the fuck on.

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What do GSC's need?

>>98156736
>in the modern setting?
this shit has been the case all along, anon, since 40k was made connected with fantasy, because fantasy had old ones that made humans.

you just don't want to understand that the old ones are characterised as being the kinds of fuckos who plan multidimensional millions years long topplings of dominos such as throwing a random artifact at some cavemen to kickstart their cultural development only to grab a piece of a telescope they would construct shortly before their civilization collapses thousand years later.

>>98155497
Base bright red, then orange highlight, then yellow. Choose a very bright yellow, is so sensitive a thin orange wash will blend it together.

>>98156774
>What's this about the fucking Emperor reviving?
Nothing, people are delusional and addicted to teasers to the point they hallucinate them or think anything and everything is foreshadowing.

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>>98156763
>Stone Age Marines
Interesting. So do they make weapons and tools from defeated enemies? Do they ride mammoths?