star trek sex with shran

star trek pelvis shattering with grilka

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I hate western animation so much I am LITERALLY shaking rn! Put a spoon in my mouth!

For me it’s ENT

can we have a nice normal thread for once

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Dukat Did Nothing Wrong

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>>217634312
Some of it is good.

>>217634325
not until they leave

>>217634358
The Federation?

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>>217634312
how could you hate him?

>>217634325
There is a tribe controlling all that is bad in this world, and we must to everything within our power to block these damned Ferengi!!

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>>217634283
>>217634289
The Federation has many good looking women.
High Elf and Night Elf women are very good looking. Wood Elf women are also very pretty. Tellarites are the fugliest of the federation races.

>>217634369
the Skrreea

any updates on the Weyoun/Porthos fanfiction?

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new TNG watcher who has just finished watching 'the measure of a man'.

Probably my favourite episode so far and even though on paper it sounds like a boring episode, I really enjoyed the writing and themes of it around Data. Most of the episodes have had a silly feel to them and I really enjoyed the more mature and philosophical tone this had and I hope more come. I'm following a guide of recommended episodes and the next one is 'Q Who'. S2 is a big improvement so far and I've heard it's better and more consistent from S3 onwards

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Why you only calling us
When you got your dramas?
One of these days
We'll repay you
We'll slay you

Gonna draw your last breath (Uh! Uh!)
At the end of our Mek'leth (Uh! Uh!)
Your eternal torture
Is every Klingon's dream
You know what I mean?
Make your blood scream!

>>217634423
I don't think Vorta have reproductive genitals.

>>217634476
Measure of Man is probably one of the best episodes of the whole series. The gold standard for Star Trek writing and acting. And it was even considered a budget episode during production. Now the same studio is spending millions of dollars on CGI for episodes that are instantly forgotten.

>>217634540
It just baffles me I really don’t get it. It’s not just a CBS/Paramount issue. ALL television and movies have these insane budgets and I have no idea why it’s like this. A single episode of SA costs the same as an entire season of real Star Trek and it’s not even 1% as entertaining, visually interesting, funny, witty… where does the money go?!

>>217634476
The dude who wanted to take Data was a retard and probably would've broken Data. Picard's speech was pretty flimsy, and Starfleet still considers Data as property.

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I'm tired of motherfuckers in Quarks tellin' me, always on the promenade
"Skrain Dukat ain't 'bout this, Skrain Dukat ain't 'bout that"
My boy a Pah-wraith, on fuckin' the Prophets and them
He, he, they say that spoonhead don't be puttin' in no work
Shut the fuck up, y'all niggas ain't know shit
All y'all motherfuckers talkin' about
"Skrain ain't no hitter, Gul Dukat ain't this, Gul Dukat a fake"
Shut the fuck up, y'all don't live with that lizard

>racism outside of /b/

>>217634540
heaps of "best of" episodes were budget/bottle episodes, thats where duet came from, restrictions use to mean writers would flex to make the best of it, and the result was pure kino. Today however, ah well we always have what was.

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>>217634573
Leaving Dator on the Enterpise where he can be blown into a million pieces at any moment is retarded, even if Maddox failed he could use the knowledge he gained from disecting the clanker fucking shit to one day build new androids. The research would also be continued by all the top Federation scientists so there would be no chance of losing the progress made. Mad scientist who doesn't keep any notes or records is stupid.

>>217634476
a matter of honor is better, but for a first time watcher I can see why you'd think that

>>217634632
Both options were retarded. Him serving on the Enterprise (which gets attacked seemingly every fucking day) is just as bad as a complete disassembly with a huge risk of irreparably breaking him and learning nothing. He should have been serving at Starfleet Academy as an instructor or something with the dual-goal of trying to reconstruct / recreate himself

>>217634632
he's a sentient being with rights, get fucked maddox. Its wrong thats all there is to it, a living sentient being with wants and desires being used as a lab rat is wrong its that simple.

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YOUNG HEARTS
BE FREE TONIIIIIIGHT
TIME IS ON
YOUR SIIIIIIIIIIIDE

>>217634632
>>217634668
>>217634672
data sent him schematics, both sides got what they wanted

>>217634672
By what standards does a robot have the same inalienable rights as a human, you people are way too attached to Data

>>217634688
and agreed to continue discourse with him in the hopes of expanding his research, the entire problem is maddox viewing data as a thing rather then a person

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>>217634628
The bottle episodes are also carried by the actors. Mike and Rich were just raving about how good the acting was in Duet. The actor who played a one-off villain stole the show.

And then starfleet is like
>hmm good work Data, let’s take Lal in for study
And she gets so nervous she dies… bravo

>>217634707
sentience its really that simple, Data is a living being with thoughts and desires and a will of his own, not a malfunctioning computer, or simply a super advanced computer imitating sentience. In short the difference boils down to one word Sentience.

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Can Vorta fuck? Can The Founders fuck? Like Odo doesn't have sperm nor does he need a penis, but like to have sex with Kira he could make any penis she wanted. Even Gul Dukat's.

Are there any downsides to having sex with Odo?

>>217634725
yea thats nice and all but we've rated Duet as one of the best for 2 decades now, but sure the bottle episodes have fantastic ghust actors but also fantastic writing, that actor didn't make up the lines he was saying he was reading the script. hat would be impossible for nutrek to do since well their writers are shit

>>217634764
can you please go take some pills and shut the fuck up

>>217634764
>Are there any downsides to having sex with Odo?
I imagine it's like Data where he doesn't know when it's time to stop and he's basically humping you with a strap-on.

>>217634764
They tried to seduce Sisko with Vortitties with the implication that she would fuck him if he cooperated.

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>>217634817
I think the worst part of having sex with Odo is that in the middle of it he will ask you about the location of the platinum chip.

>>217634842
Vortitties did nothing wrong she was just trying to save one of her gods

>prank war!!!

Gotta love nuTrek

>>217634860
please stop posting and go get wasted on pills and booze and w/e else you have on hand, you contribute nothing

>>217634764
In Treachery, Faith and the Great River the origin story of the Vorta show a small, hobbit-like *family* taking in the Founders; ipso facto they were genetically modified from a species that fucked. It's generally easier to leave the parts in place.

>>217634707
did you watch the episode? Your question is addressed.

>>217634927
I did but I am questioning the conclusion they all came to. Rare moment of Trek being wrong, morally

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>>217634485
they do they're just inert. it's not that kind of fic anyway.

>>217634927
Go on.

>>217634915
So just castrate them for population control? I am not trolling, this shit fascinates me.

>>217634942
Is it bad if I don't actually hate this ship design?

>>217634709
Data is a sex toy

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>>217635009
Like Odo.

C-c-can you drink Odo?

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>>217634968
I like the design as an academic/research vessel which it seems to be. I hope we see more of it though as I want more space in my Star Trek not sci-fi Community

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>>217634968
It's a ship designed for women to go "Aw, that's cute." Not the military autist designs that long time fans are accustomed to.

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>>217634283

>That episode when she was in heat and wanted nothing but the whole fleet to run a train on her

It was absolutely necessary and nothing anyone says can convince me of the contrary.

>>217634951
>Does Data have a soul?
>I dont know, but I dont know I do either.
>Is Data Starfleet property?
>No.
What do you find morally wrong with this conclusion?

>>217635051
He could turn himself into kanar, you could drink him and then piss in his bucket afterwards

>>217635009
no he's a sentient being with thoughts and desires of his own, but you sem to be ignoring this and just want to post foul shit
>>217635051
just like you, you fucking spastic, could you please just kys already

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>>217635110
Neat. Good to know.

>>217635110
He could also do a mean Cardassian neck trick.

>>217635093
Um all of it, retard. Humans have souls and robots don’t, Data is Starfleet property without a doubt

>>217635060
>Not the military autist designs that long time fans are accustomed to
Retard, TNG is a flying hotel for women and families

>>217635163
Ackshually, Starfleet only found him. He is rightfully the property of the Soong family.

>>217635140
plucky young ensign

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i choose to believe Vorta can fuck. 7 admitted he was into xeno-voyuer-sadism that little sick fuck was jerking it to captive aliens humping.

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>>217634731
data tried to recreate or if you'd like procreate, he fucked up, lal was an individual but damaged think of it like a child born with a terminal disease. It really gets me that ep the line from geordi
>his hands were moving faster then i've ever seen, he just couldn't keep up with the degradation
paraphrased but still like a doctor trying to save their own child working at peak capacity ad still can't do it, its just tragic data made a mistake he thought he could reproduce he was wrong, which makes him all the more "human" lals final moments where data just kept at it knowing it was doomed to fail but he refused to give up, thats life thats not an unthinking machine thats sentience. Even more then Measure of a Man, Lal proves Data is more then just a construct.

>>217635060
Starfleet's ships are designed for exploration and diplomacy but they're not retarded and arm the ships and crew with weapons

>>217635190
I don’t disagree but I’m going off of a “finders keepers” argument here. I think ultimately yeah Data is probably Soong property.

>>217635208
that isn't 7 thats 5

>>217635258
i didn't feel like going and making a screenshot of 7

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What makes a spaceship design good?

>>217635208
The Founders gave them shitty eyesight and no sense of taste beyond their ancestral diet of nuts and berries. They wouldn't have wasted any DNA giving them sexual organs that would only be used for personal pleasure since the Vorta don't reproduce sexually.

>>217635284
If it’s a kitbashed design by virgin nerds using an assortment of physical model pieces, it’s based. If it’s CGI slop made after the 2000s it sucks balls and is gay

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>>217635286
the Founders didn't create them they modified them from existing monkeys that did fuck. they're all infertile clones now but they still have junk.

>>217634942
Why the fuck are there huge gaps of empty space between the parts like fucking Rayman or some shit?

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>>217635284
If it looks cool, obviously

>>217635163
Only humans? so Klingons, Vulcans, any other species do not have souls? What about Borg? What happens to the soul since the transporter kills you each time you use it? What about Thomas Riker, does he have a separate soul? Do he and Will share one, or does Thomas not have one? Given these types of questions, how do you definitively say Data does not have a soul but humans do?

>>217635280
don't insult 5 then, he would never if you are going to post weyoun put in some effort or don't do it at all.

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>>217635333
kill yourself newfags I hate you all so fucking much oh my god

>>217635343
Too harsh?

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>Alexander Hilary Kurtzman (born September 7, 1973) is an American filmmaker. He is best known for co-writing the scripts to Transformers (2007), Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009), Star Trek (2009), Star Trek Into Darkness (2013), and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) with his writing and producing partner Roberto Orci, and directing and co-writing The Mummy (2017). He made his directorial debut with People Like Us (2012), co-written alongside Orci and Jody Lambert.

Jesus wept

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>>217635354
it's not too harsh I'm fucking sick of it why can't they fucking lurk the fuck moar?

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>>217635343
It's okay. I understand. I am here with you asking about sexual organs together.

>>217635163
almost all species have souls we've seen evidence of vulcan and klingon souls. You are just stirring shit for no reason except your unreasoning hatred for data, you are the same anon who spergs about transporters and federation economics. You are basically retarded.

>>217634336
>Loses Bajor to the rebels
>Makes alliance with the Dominion
>loses the WW1 in space

>>217635343
>newfag
I've been here since before a /trek/ general existed, I invented ATTENTION don't talk about weyoun unless you can do it right you fucking nufaggot.

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>>217635364
More shows are in the works!

>>217635392
Yes and? now point out something he did that was wrong

>>217635420
he sat on a sand spine

>>217635329
No not only humans I was simply keeping the scope to humans (such as Dr Soong) and his creation (i.e. Data, Lore, etc.)
Within the confines of Star Trek I think it needs to be accepted that aliens such as Vulcans, Romulans, Klingon, etc have souls. The Borg idk I would have to think about it. As a group of physical beings that existed before assimilation: yes they had will and intellect before being abducted. Am I wrong in my understanding that your individual intellect and consciousness are “suppressed” after assimilation? With people like Picard, shown to be able to come back from assimilation, I would say yes—you still retain a soul and the borg hivemind is simply a facsimile of another’s will imposed onto you for a discrete amount of time

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>>217635418
She is one of the few people that looks more like an alien in real life than in the actual show

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>>217577632
The Helghan Empire is just Cardassia from Temu
>dying planet
>imperialist war for resources
>the RDA from Avatar is the same, with Pandora being Bajor

>>217635429
which got kira to caress his butt and get her onside, NOTHING WRONG

>>217635381
See >>217635440

>>217635462
I don't see how any of that means Data doesn't have a soul, and if we include Voy in this little debate then the borg definitely do as shown by unimatrix zero

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>>217635234
I just wish Data hadn't completely forgotten about her by the next episode. There are easter eggs like keepsakes of her in his quarters, but he totally bounced back the next week.

>>217635534
>Wow I can’t believe this number-crunching machine w/o a soul didn’t cry and be depressed for the rest of the series

>>217635534
Data is a computer. The keepsakes are him mimicking sentimental human behaviour.

>>217635534
yea sure. he doesn't function like a human that takes nothing away from him as a person

just filter the tripfaggot

>>217635500
Data was only deemed to have inalienable rights in Measure of a Man because the crew was personally attached to him as a friend and went to bat for him. Whether that’s a parasocial relationship or not can be argued; personally I think Data is constructed as such a close approximation to a living being that it’s fine to attribute a personal relationship with him. But the decision that he had a consciousness or whatever was made by a tribunal of people who came to that decision. I personally don’t think that changes the reality that he, more likely than not, actually isn’t truly conscious with a soul though. To reiterate: I think Dr. Soong was simply able to create a positronic brain that mimicked a living organism very very well

Why would a Starfleet officer need to wear hipster glasses?

>>217635621
Because Geordi is blind without them.

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>>217635633
Those are cool though, not like fucking thick rimmed reading glasses

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>>217635621
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Glasses

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Wheelchair

Hindsight is 20/20, it would have been a much more intriguing and philosophical argument to find out that Data had a significant portion of Dr. Soong’s actual brain. I think it was handwavy of the writers to just be like “oh yeah he is a conscious computer trust us”
>>217635670
Oh the glasses from the show Starfleet Academy, that show isn’t star trek

>>217635670
I believe he was making a humorous remark, Sir.

>>217635686
>Hindsight is 20/20, it would have been a much more intriguing and philosophical argument to find out that Data had a significant portion of Dr. Soong’s actual brain.
this is why every writer's room has a guy in charge

so he can tell retards like this "no"

>>217635683
How many more times?

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SPEAKING OF SOULS
I agree with Renoir and Verso. Imagine if your child or sibling were spending all their time in a holodeck, escaping reality by interacting with AI-generated ‘people’ and even an AI ‘sibling’ recreated after dying in a fire, instead of being part IRL family

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>>217635726

>>217635683
>>217635726
I don't get these images. Can you please explain the meme to me?

>>217635825
they just be doing shit for the sake of LGTV representation

>>217635616
>because the crew was personally attached to him
did you actually watch the episode? no thats not at all what happened

>>217635825
Show is unwatchable garbage. But people really picking nits complaining about wheelchairs. You can't imagine a single sci-fi scenario where a person would use a wheelchair? You lack imagination.

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>>217635853
neutral chad is a man without biases, who analyses things as they are

>>217635898
ask yourself woul the US navy have an eliet cadet program and in that group is a person ina wheel chair, no wait scratch that, would a self respecting academy training astronauts one who is actually serious about their job and not some crappy insane all inclusive shit have a disabled person in a wheel chair among them? thats what you are looking at, lets train a paraplegic to go into outer space. Are you serious at all? is anything you posted a legitimate question? because thats the level of stupid this show is operating at.

>>217635898
Nitpicking is how you keep standards high. I don’t give a shit if they addressed it up-front and had someone stare into the camera and damn near break the fourth wall and say “erm she was paralyzed but she didn’t want the treatment that could have easily restored her spine”
It’s retarded and they keep cramming shit like this in for no reason, simple as

>>217634283
I wish I was in a position at Paramount to run a Trek series. I'd give them something that the fans would love, and which could still be 100% inline with historic canon

>>217636005
>>217636021
>ds9_wheelchair_lady.jpg

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>>217636005
you are right, and it's so easy to fix. just have the dude super genius protégé in science division..

>>217636047
I’ll cede that it’s a dumb thing to try and bash the show over when there are hundreds of other worse problems, but that doesn’t negate the fact that there are hundreds of worse problems with STD and PIC and now SA. Actually I won’t cede, nevermind, that bitch needs to stand up

>>217636047
which was a huge deal and she was restricted to certain activities and environments, as I understand it this Ack show is about them restarting starfleet so a paraplegic wouldn't be a candidate for deep space exploration, they might and very well could be a tech on the ground that is not whats happening here, its stupid, really really stupid.

Remember when /trek/ was actually funny, had memes, and could make you laugh sometimes?

>>217635878
Been a long time since I’ve seen it, I was misattributing the general sentiment of the entire Enterprise crew with Data

>>217636125
a major point of the episode is riker is the prosecutor they do not take into account the feelings of the crew at all, that kinda the point. Its entirely based on the facts of Datas status as either a sentient being with rights or a machine that is property of starfleet. The case isn't won by having his co-workers trot out and talk about how they like him, that doesn't happen. That would be something nu-trek would do but thats not how it goes down in tng at all. I would also point out the episode was written by a real no kidding passed the bar experienced lawyer.

>>217636120
remember when you actually talked about star trek instead of w/e random shit came into your head? no neither do I.

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>>217636120
Be the change, bee.

>>217636120
I got a joke for you; Put a bullet through your thick skull dipshit.

>>217636120
/trek/ has definitely gotten more jaded.

>>217636222
Riker is arguing against his own personal beliefs due to lack of a prosecutor, and picard is obviously trying to parry Maddox’s three arguments of sentience
But yes I agree nonetheless that the episode is exemplary writing. It’s a classic episode of great trek. I don’t think nutrek would touch these philosophical debates with a ten foot pole lol they’d just have some android making marvel jokes

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>>217636286
i'm not jaded, just annoyed. i know this too, shall pass.

>>217636289
riker still did his duty to the best of his ability as a lawyer is suppose to, in fact he almost won the case, but yes I mean there is a reason its always mentioned as a standout, its really well done

>>217636315
once ACK stops airing everyone will forget it ever existed, that's how this shit works

>>217636120
Jesus I'm about to start spamming nu trek if it'll get rid of BF for good

Would totally be worth it

>>217636378
i also blame those fags Mike and Rich for flooding my /trek/ with normie faggots. it's like a perfect storm of newfag garbage bullshit.

>>217636378
SA is hard to shitpost about because it's almost impossible to watch.

>>217636402
why do you pretend you've ever watched or actually know anything about half the shit you shitpost about? you all got your opinions from grifters on youtube.

>>217634283
Oh my god is that a WOMAN?! DISRESPECTING THE CAPTAINS CHAIR WITH THAT CASUAL SIT?!???!!!!!

>>217634476
Dude, watch TNG in order. You don't need a viewing guide unless you're watching TOS and want continuity.

>>217636289
nutrek would also make Maddox out to be some sorta over-exaggerated biggot cartoon character, instead of the nuanced person suffering from tunnel vision that is in the episode.

GUYS DID YOU KNOW THAT

NU TREK

IS


BAD???????????????????????????

i don't think you get it but don't worry I'm going to be making posts about this brand new revelation for the next 5 months.

>>217636414
You don't know me.

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>>217635825
They didn't even bother to explain why there was a wheelchair user in the 31st century.

>>217636005
He might be part of a quota system that ensures that all federation member worlds get a space in Starfleet academy. His world sent him as a protest against the quotas.

>>217636396
I'm wondering the same thing is rlm to blame for this wave of nufags? fucking mike siccing hack frauds on us, oh sure thing he knows ds9 so why didn't he know o'briens favorite holoprogram that gives him a shoulder injury? I know /trek/ knows it. Why does o'brien go to bashir when his shoulder is dislocated in the holodeck? Mike failed this question none of you should.

>>217636441
As opposed to the same eight VOY memes and the echoes of long-dead circlejerks for seven straight years? Fuck off

>>217636447
the writers literally just wanted any excuse to write an episode revolving around an officer in a wheelchair. it was an idea they were wanting to do since TNG. they admit that in the DS9 book lol

>>217636454
I do believe I mentioned
>crappy insane all inclusive shit
in that post

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>>217636460
>so why didn't he know o'briens favorite holoprogram that gives him a shoulder injury? I know /trek/ knows it
the thing is I like watching their trek videos so I'm not even a hater I'm just mad that the general I like to hang out in is garbage now. but yes you're right the fact that he didn't know that was shocking. it made me think he's a fake DS9 fan.

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/trek/ is at a crossroads.

>>217636465
As soulless as the interface on a modern Triple A vidya game

>>217636493
this is the most performative theater kid bullshit ever

>>217636460
>>217636491
Rich said Mike was obsessively into DS9 when it first came out but it sounds like he decided sometime after that that he didn't like it
And now he's rewatching it for the videos and realizing that yes, it is indeed kino

This just goes to show how much you can cockblock yourself by just arbitrarily deciding you don't like something and then trying to make it part of your core identity when you discuss star trek (much like BF has done with TOS)

>>217636494
Blade Runner 2049 really scratched the itch for me of what a modern Trek should have looked like.

>>217636527
This is probably true of a lot of you who last tried to watch ENT 20 years ago and still claim it’s ass

>>217636491
and he had the gaul to call everyone out that cals him a ds9 hater, and yet he still failed that most simple of questions what is o'briens favorite holodeck program that sends him to the med bay, I can forgive rich for not knowing, hell I could've forgiven mike but after the ds9 re-view and his rant about people thinking he doesn't like it, well how the fuck did you not know that? its kayaking white water rapids btw for you nufags

>>217636550
no one actually claims that here. we have valid criticisms that we make out of love but you wouldn't know that because you're a newfag

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>>217636550
I rewatched ENT like 3-4 months ago when another anon ITT was rewatching it so we could have a bit of discussion about it

and I think both of us are the main ones who say it fucking sucks ironically enough because of how recently we've seen it so yeah it's the opposite

>>217636532
But in a positive future like Star Trek is supposed to be, right? I love both Blade Runner movies but they're pretty bleak

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>>217636581
this is correct. I even wrote basically an essay wall of text on my impression after finishing the series and for all of my passionate and earnest complaints about things that were stupid or that I didn't like, I still admitted I enjoyed it and it was a pretty good show. the previous shows set the bar really high and Enterprise is well below it. that's all. it's just fine.

>>217636590
Yeah, I just meant the autism that was applied by the props department. 2049’s goal was to try to look futuristic by our standards but also adhere to the 1982 cassette core visuals of the first movie. Nutrek should have aspired to seem visually similar to TNG. Instead everything looks like generic slop

>>217636619
Yeah, I agree with you. I still consider it Trek, just not as good as the other shows.

>>217636426
NuTrek Maddox would be an orange alien calling Data and Geordi "That clanker and his negro friend" with a Southern drawl.

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>>217636550
you misunderstand I love Ent I just think its stupid more specifically I think archer is stupid, but it has faith and heart, and freight

>>217636647
And then the butch lesbian character would monologue about acceptance and tolerance

>>217636619
I think it’s valid to say even a glass-half-full is preferable to an empty glass. Better to admire what is there than to lament what isn’t. Enterprise should have just been set 100 years after TNG but we got what we got

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>>217636690
i'm not "lamenting what isn't." and i'm not going "admire what's there" just because it's there when if what's there is actually shit that I naturally want to criticize because it's stupid. just because it's Trek doesn't mean there aren't flaws and that we shouldn't talk about them. i'm don't need to sit here and circlejerk about LE FAITH OF THE HEART to virtue signal. it's a safe here to talk about how Archer is a mental retard and this show shat all over Vulcans and still overall like it.

>>217636743
it did indeed shit all over vulcans and archer is a retard, no denying that

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so has second season been canceled already?

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>>217636743

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>>217636808
Bakula is really good at making "retard" faces isn't he? good actor.

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>>217636743
there will be consequences for the disrespect within this post
your cheese will be gone soon
all of it
ALL OF IT

>>217636786
>audience scores from chud reviewbombers

>>217636830
if you go back in the archives you'll see one thing i consistently praised was Porthos. i'm not even a big dog lover but he was so freaking adorable. he deserved to have a better owner.

if ENT had a more fun and colorful ship and uniforms i think it might have landed a lot more like TOS, a lot of the episodes suffer from dull grey sets
making the ship interior look like a submarine made it very boring, except for the bluelight goo room

>>217636871
dull grey sets
dull grey characters
dull grey contrivance of Archer always getting kidnapped and fucked by aliens

>>217636828
just bee yourself, its what bakula did for decades, and hey it worked out for him.

>>217636527
IIRC Rich put off DS9 because he didn't like the channel it aired on. Not even in the sense of "I'll never support Netflix/Disney because all they make is woke garbage." He just mentally associated that network with boring shows.

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>>217636852
he is indeed a good boy and worthy of a better owner
that better owner's name is Commander Charles "Trip" Tucker III

>>217636833
Chuds are also review bombing Fallout and Pluribus, yet ratings remain high. House of Dragon was also hated by Chuds

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What are five must watch TOS episodes? Preferably ones that focus on character over plot. In before Spock gets horny.

>>217636910
Obsession
Journey to Babel

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>>217636905
review bombing is a myth made up by showrunners as cope for their own failures

>>217636852
phlox even with his insane feed animals to other animals mindset would've cared for porthos like his own, and wouldn't have given him cheese, you don't give dogs cheese archer you fucking retard

>>217636929
Review bombing is real, however, if series is good, the rating remains high

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>>217636929
aye

>>217636786
It's been ordered already and is being filmed right now.
3rd season for sure isn't happening even if the rumours of Kurtzmann already getting thrown out aren't true.

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I never liked the badge communicators, simple as

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>>217636910
Spock's Brain is peak weird if you want that, but i really like Who Mourns for Adonais

>>217636930
another thing I wouldn't do is just bring my dog down to random ass planets I've never set foot on before. it's one thing to risk my own life but I would never do that to my dog who never asked to be brought along to fucking space and cooped up in a bedroom all the time in the first place. remember when Porthos peed on some special tree and offended aliens? Archer literally fucked everyone over by making them deal with that. such a terrible captain fr fr

>>217636950
>Critic score 85%
>Audience score 20%
many such cases

>>217636929
Reviewbombing is when hundreds of 1 star reviews flood in for something the day it comes out. Highguard is getting reviewbombed because it looks so much like Concord. Gamers are trying to will it into failure.

>>217636981
yeah i cant stand when he brings his dog to a diplomatic meeting, which they don't like and he acts like a retard over (i think thats when he pees on the tree), and then porthos gets sick and he blames the aliens for it when he took porthos of his own volition
thank god for vulcan tummy or that show would never have made it to 4 seasons

who is still patronizing this dead franchise?

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>>217637046
No one.

Thats why they cancelled ACK finally. No one's watching it. No more Kurtzman garbage!!!

>>217637020
>Highguard is getting reviewbombed because it looks so much like Concord.
its getting low reviews because its a 3v3 game, so if 1 person idles you lose
also it disconnects a shitload and no one can get into matches
why do you feel the need to defend it? perhaps some misplaced contrarianism against anything you view as right wing?

>>217636910
Top 5 Kirk episodes:
>The Enemy Within
>Conscience of the King
>Court Martial
>City on the Edge of Forever

Top 5 Spock episodes:
>Balance of Terror
>Galileo Seven
>This Side of Paradise
>Amok Time
>Is There in Truth No Beauty

>>217637046
I have a super gay they/them type friend who eats this shit up and keeps sending me nuTrek clips. I don't get it because he loves TOS and TNG so I have no idea why he's watching this trash

>>217637046
Critics screeners account for at least 90% of the views

https://youtu.be/wj9tVfnzc9E?si=pHIhVo8adIHjs4hS

Based

>>217637094
Fug :DD that's only 4 Kirk episodes. Add Miri or Obsession on to that I guess.

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>that unit is defective, it's thinking is chaotic... absorbing it unsettled me.
>that "unit" is a woman.
>a mass of conflicting impulses!
Nomad was such a savage

>>217637101
I hate to be “that guy,” but I think in an alternate timeline where Paramount gave Star Trek to some ultrachud based right wing guy instead of Kurtzman, I would go to bat for the new shit even if it were as bad writing-wise as ENT lol
I think the fact that it aligns culturally with retarded leftist values makes a lot of people like it by default for tribalistic and culture war reasons

I have been out of the loop. Can someone inform me what happened with "Academy"

>>217637094
you have to watch Journey to Babel it's an excellent episode showing how much Kirk loves Spock

>>217637153
kek

>>217637070
Was this a contractually-obligated TV show or something? They canceled it fucking lightning quick

>>217637201
this is probably the most self aware thing anyone has ever written on 4chan like holy shit what are they feeding you newfags? you're not supposed to just come out and say it lmao

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00s midriffs would never work nowadays

>>217637263
Oh come off I was hesitant to say it but it’s obviously the situation that is going on right now with all of these delusional fans of current trek

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>>217637206
They've released the quirkiest most teenager demographic targeting Star Trek series yet!

And it looks and feels nothing like Star Trek, the writing is even cornier than what other nutrek did, the main character walks around barefoot, and there's a half Klingon/half Jem'Hadar in a lesbian relationship with a standup comedian they cast in the show.

>>217636828
I'm just going to come out and say it: Enterprise was a good show. Especially when Bakula wasn't in it. The Texas guy was good, the black guy was good, the Asian chick was good, the Vulcan lady was hot. Bakula was the worst part.

>>217637094
Corbomite Maneuver is a great "why Kirk is the best starship commander" episode as well, I'll add

>>217637282
midriff is midwits and gooners. i prefer skin tight catsuits.

>>217637282
Women are getting bigger
>>217637294
>the Texas guy
Actually Trip was floridian

>>217637144
mirror mirror might be obvious but its a really great kirk episode

What about good Bones episodes?

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>>217637282
Tummy bros... We lost...

>>217634764
I read this entire post in his voice and laughed

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>>217637354
unironically a great bones ep

You can totally hex yourself into not enjoying something if your head is filled with "I do not like this thing" before you even start watching it

It's kind of like having a bad trip on psychedelics. If you go into anything with a bad enough attitude about something, you will yourself to misery.
Of course, some things, like Nu Trek, are so soul-crushingly terrible that even if you go in one cloud nine, you're leaving on a cooling board.
>>217637354
There really aren't a lot of Bones episodes. He's usually just support for Kirk and Spock.
Tholian Web has some great Bones moments.

>>217637374
Bones is the best Star Trek character and I'm tired of pretending he's not

>>217637408
>angry all the time because he's usually right and kirk is too hotheaded and spock is too autistic to listen to him
agreed

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I just thought the characters in TOS were incredibly one dimensional and they didn't interest me very much to continue with the series. Same with Voyager.

I mean you can make a pointy ear autistic character interesting, but for me that character isn't Spock. I am sorry.

What is your dream Star Trek show?

he's not autistic. it's like you've never watched TOS oh wait you actually haven't lol

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>>217637358
We are forever winning

>>217637469
+100 years after TNG, retcon all of nutrek as never having happened

>>217637469
A DS9 AU that takes place in the modern day and Rom is an office worker.

>>217637494
God fucking damn Uhura's hips are enough to give any white man jungle fever

>>217637408
there is a great moment in I think This side of paradise, where mccoy says something like
>i'm a doctor a damn good one and I know 20 different ways to kill you without using a phaser
its been ages since I've seen it bu thats the jist, and the way deforest kelly delivers the lines you completely believe he could fucking kill you in a heart beat without blinking, those ww2 guys were built different.

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>>217637442
she'd fit right in

>>217637442
don't care, you are a tasteless pleb we all already know that, for instance freiren isn't one dimensional neither is the characters on TOS. You however are one dimensional, you are as wide as a raindrop and as deep as puddle of shitty piss in a public bathroom.

>>217637469
I would make another episodic TNG-style show written by actual adults and not jews/fat millennial chicks with baby brains and a fear of growing old.

Everything after DS9 would be retconned as having not happened.

>>217637469
Maybe just exploring the galaxy and having episodic adventures with likeable characters again

>>217637660
nothing happened after ds9 except voyager coming home, which doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things

>>217637682
you’d be taken out back and shot for suggesting this during a modern Paramount pitch meeting lol

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>>217637469
why, it's star trek sex with shran

>>217637469
Take inspiration from Andromeda's Nietzscheans and have a bunch of humans on the border of Federation space that reject Earth authority and act as pirates and freebooters, following the ancient human warrior ethos that the Federation reviles.

The show would be about the Federation starship (r maybe even a small fleet) sent to negotiate with them and protect Federation allies from being raided or forced to pay tribute by humans who still follow the old ways of Earth's more violent past.

>>217637469
I'd like to see a show set in the immediate post-DS9/Voyager era just to see them realise there's nothing stopping them from doing that. That era was portrayed close to real-time across those 15 years but that isn't necessary now, it's only necessary if you need to see established characters crossing over, which they did in each of those shows.
You could have a show that starts on a ship at the end of the Dominion War, like how DS9 started at Wolf 359

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Did he deserve it?

>>217637883
Didn't they do that in DS9, only for the show to kill them all off because we can't have chuds running around with star ships and guns while not in the federation

>>217637643
Where did all these users without a sense of humor come from? When did everyone start taking themselves and this place so seriously?

>>217636557
and o'brien's love for holodeck kayaking programs COMES FROM TNG. they just carried it over to DS9 because it was the same writers.

>holodeck exists
>use it for Sherlock Holmes fantasies

You know most officers use it for porn

>>217637925
I've seen so many takes in recent years saying this dude was a chud that deserved no sympathy for being a nazi that followed orders

I genuinely can't believe I'm on the same planet as people so stupid and indoctrinated

>>217637883
no you have to take it further they are using genetic engineering, would fit perfectly with the nietzscheans, make them an anathema to the federation but also cause all kinds of philosophical questions that were never really explored I know Ent tried but take it further, they have scientists, warriors teachers doctors children etc, the whole gamut they have a functioning society. You can then bring in those who aren't up to being enhanced or maybe don't work out like bashiers freinds, shunned maybe killed or maybe just isolated in care facilities, etc etc there is a lot to explore and think about. While having an "enemy" that is smart dangerous and also very human. Take it even further, they have genetically enhanced vulcans and andorians and tellerites and so on. That would be a huge ethical and military challenge to the federation. Of course they would be a much smaller empire otherwise their is no conflict the enhanced would take over in a week.

>>217637948
yeah halfway
the maquis never got fleshed out and were in "contested territory", they were more a political inconvenience and were federation citizens, it seemed like the writers on DS9 didn;;t know what to do with them and just shut off the valve on that plot to move on to the next one

this would be a human group that settled in a region long before the federation consolidated control, are deliberately more violent as a scare tactic, and keep raiding federation allies for plunder and tech (to the detriment of some earth-xeno relations)
think space mongols or comanches tactically with deep warrior philosophical discipline and enough tech starfleets never seen before to make them a threat, but much harder to find and neutralize

Andromeda did a good job with the Nietzscheans up front but then never did much else with them, and them being a Roddenberry invention I think they'd be a fun contrast to the Federation if done right.

>>217634968
I don't hate it visually, I just hate it as a spaceship. I've seen people call it "ugly" which is absurd, it's not ugly, it looks quite nice, but it's also fucking stupid.

>>217638064
that opinion is valid too that's kind of the point of the whole fucking episode.

>bf is still here
damn, i haven't gone into one of these threads since 2018, and yet he's still here posting dumbass shit no one cares about.

>>217637975
stop whining you attention whoring faggot, don't talk about TOS we all know you have no taste, shut up.

>>217634336
>Didn't exterminate the Bajorans.
>Had Bajorn mistresess and bred a halfblood.
> Allied with the Dominion.
>Became a cult leader, and eventually the host, of the Bajoran devils.
>Fucked Kai Winn.
He did everything wrong. He was a filthy bajoranphile.

>>217638046
Yes that is the assumption however this show had to air and appeal to a broad audience in the circa 1980s and 1990s, it wasn’t some degenerate HBO show that could pull back the veil and serve cunt for gooners

>>217638002
honestly how did he fail that question? pressure or just not knowing star trek as well as he thinks he does, fucking hack fraud

>>217638091
you're a good example

>>217638083
Well I mean every Star Trek ship has looked stupid from day 1. The Enterprise in TOS had fucking tie dye engines

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Why don't people capitalize their sentences or use punctuation anymore? A-a-are they using text to speech?

No fucking way. There is no fucking way.

>>217638120
well this is mike stolaskastein we're talking about
he was wrong about star wars too.

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>>217638083
Forgot to mention, it also reminds me of a Bentusi ship from Homeworld

>>217638073
>Vulcans who accept the logic of Nietzsche willingly joining a radical human faction because when it was explained it made sense to them
based
>Andorians and Tellerites joining the stronger humans against the Federation
also based
and agreed on the genetic engineering, a parallel to the khan group essentially but one that got established in a treacherous and difficult to traverse part of space
they venture out to raid and only fools follow them back in, they take tribute from some, raid and plunder others, take hostages for security guarantees, etc.

The Federation views it as a stain on humanity's honor and a detriment to the spread of Federation values, so Captain such-and-such and crew are being sent to negotiate with alien worlds on the rim to start organizing defenses.

>>217638103
you left out the best part, the mistress was kira nerys's mother

>>217638046
Yes, they use it for the complete Sherlock Holmes holo-adventure holo-series.

>>217638103
>was a benevolent ruler
>spread his seed
>saved cardassia
>gained ultimate power
>fucked kai winn
so...in short he did nothing wrong, not sure what your point is here

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Most starship designs in nuTrek are butt ugly

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>>217638164
zoomers turn off autocap on their iphones

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i get that memes are fun and everything but how can you watch episode after episode of Sisko dabbing on him rejecting his pathetic bids at friendship and constantly cucking to Weyoun in front of Damar and still say he did nothing wrong? i mean come on.

>>217638164
I have never used capitalization, now take some more meds and go to sleep you spastic

>>217638203
>fucked kai winn
>did nothing wrong
In what universe

>>217638218
It looks inspired in part by the Ralph McQuarrie Phase II concept art, which I think is ugly sorry to say

>>217638218
Truth, but the 32nd century ones are especially shit with all the floating hulls

>>217638218
By the time I quit watching STD I was so fucking mad when they kept flying around with the shuttlebay door open like goddamn
It's also clear that they don't have a Andy Probert or a Rick Sternbach type working on the show. They can't even tell you what deck that Engineering is on. All five seasons.

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>>217638232
because Gul Dukat does it all with a smile even when he takes a loss
and Sisko whines and bitches even when he wins

>>217638173
true, I mean the prequels still suck but fair enough

>>217638302
they're "okay" but he completely misses the point of them
he claims to love star trek but he hates when star wars has star trek in it?

>>217638218
Them being butt ugly is only half the problem, they also look incongruous. The Discovery, Shenzou and nu-Enterprise all being Federation ships apparently in the same era but with seemingly no common design language is baffling. John Eaves has lost it

>>217638335
According to John Eaves he did originally sketch the STD ships with the TOS-era white hull coloring and tubular engine nacelles but the producers said no

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>>217638218
They have gone to the Star Wars sequel level of design where they try to stick too closely to the original for nostalgia, but make it too unnecessarily modern (ugly) where it looks off

>>217638188
exactly could have been a fascinating progression from ds9/voy, aybe ther tech isa bit different and they don't have idk quantum torpedoes or voys ablative armor, but they progressed in other ways, an anti federation, ah well what might have been, still interesting to think about, mabe some Killed in Action or Lost in Action feds during the war actually were rescued by the enhanced and are now on their side. Its a real military threat but more its a existential threat a moral threat, something that legit shakes the foundations of what the federation stands for, the klingons might look to them as the stronger race idk. There is so much to work with. Fuck you berman hire /trek 20+ years ago, We'll save star trek one great idea at a time.

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>>217638180
Looks like those things from Mass Effect

>>217638245
in the universe where you fuck adami on the reg nothing wrong

>>217638406
Just give a classic thing the Apple treatment basically. It's been going on for way too long

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Which is worse New Trek or New /trek/?

>>217638440
(you) as always

>>217638440
you, faggot

>>217634283
I wanna lick that tummy so bad bros

>>217638372
>TOS-era white hull coloring
TOS ships were battleship gray

>>217638180
WE WILL NOT BE BOUND
don't associate the based bentusi to nutrek shit they don't deserve that.

Is the 1701-E a good design or is it a bastardized modernization of the D

>>217638301
but doesn't losing mean you did something wrong???

>>217638502
kek based

Who’s more insufferable: DS9 or VOY elitists?

>>217638106
They strongly imply through Barclay and Geordi that people do use the holodeck for fucking. Later, Quark outright offers it as a service.

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>>217638502
even when he loses he wins

>>217638564
Voyager because they're wrong

>>217638564
tng purists

>>217638564
anyone who isnt a TOS elitist

>>217638605
>Riker to bridge. If you need me, I’ll be on Holodeck 3
;)

>>217638619
wrong

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>>217638478
It's maybe overly detailed and less sculptural compared to the D but I'd argue it's better thought out. By which I mean at the very least, with the stepping on the hull, there are fewer impractical 10-metre long near-horizontal windows we never get to see from the inside

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Say something nice about them

>>217638631
oh no right, you see tng purists are insufferable, I love tng no question, but to discount ds9 and tos because tng was your first and only is simply pig headed retardation.

>>217638475
it shows up as white on screen

>>217636581
Where's Beavis?

>>217638715
they never made any more and chris pine still has a career after that disaster

>>217638715
Karl Urban did a good job portraying Bones without being a parody

>>217638735
>>217638735
>>217638735

>>217638478
>>217638652
I don't hate E but it ain't D which is simply beautiful in every way

>>217638716
settle down

>>217638730
>chris pine still has a career
...he does?