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>>217638652
I think Andrew Probert got a little over-enthusiastic when he designed the Ent-D with all of the lounge windows and rooms at impossible angles that we were never, ever going to see on screen. He didn't even come up with Ten Forward, the producers did. When he saw where it was going to be on the leading saucer edge he got mad because it's not what he intended.
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ship's got a bunch of holes in it where windows'd go
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>>217638941
What's supposed to be in the neck section on the Galaxy class? Are these crew quarters? They would be pretty narrow.
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>>217639081
Don't forget the Anbo Jyutsu dojo.
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Bring sexo back into Star Trek. I'm sick of fat girls yelling and guys hinting at being gay
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I don't like this idea that the Galaxy class would start being phased out and replaced in only 20 years. It feels like something "those" type of people came up with.
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I remember when they released that Stage 9 game mapping out the ship, it really opened my eyes to the retarded scale of the Enterprise. Like, the shuttlebay we always saw was the smallest one on the ship while the main shuttlebay took up nearly an entire two decks and the sickbay we always saw was also the smallest one on the ship while the real sickbay was like a small fucking hospital
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It's like I said here >>217638941 they really didn't take into account the limited TV budget for sets, but it is fun to look at the deck plans and imagine whole parts of the ship we never see, like the park that's supposed to be inside the saucer section. We do see the Arboretum, and it's implied that the park is "just around the corner" or on another deck.
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it's the opposite problem with nutrek where they want to fit these giant expansive sets inside the TOS 1701 which really was only meant to be less than 300 meters long
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>>217639503
The captain's yacht as originally envisioned was kinda ugly though
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>>217639549
the one we eventually saw on screen was pure sex
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>>217639549
Even Voyager's was kinda ugly, it's no surprise they never used it and had them build the Delta Flyer instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZELcDMGdhJE
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>>217639266
The Borg were the reason for that. Taking families into battle with the Borg, where little Timmy gets assimilated, seems like a reeeeally bad idea.
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remember when picard and wesley got stuck on that dessert planet with the drunk who didnt maintain his ship properly?
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Star Trek: Sexual Assault is a success! Get ready to follow the young cadets for three more seasons!
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>>217639576
Funny that it looks so nice considering it was retrofitted from what was a torpedo bay in First Contact
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So sort of just copying my question from the tail end of the last thread but the 1701 E... does it divulge too much from the comfy cadillac design ethos of the TNG show and stray too far into "modern badass sleek" or do you like it? I personally think it's pretty sweet. But there is a fine line between that iconic saucer/nacelle star trek design and just going full sleek space ship
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>>217640026
I am one of the 2.1 million
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>>217639769
Realistically there'd be an awful lot of space behind that cockpit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfiaNXYrQf4
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>>217640242
Data is actually his last name. His first name is Lt. Commander.
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>be successful
>hide the evidence behind 3rd party data shills
strange behavior, that
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That's on par with Doctor Who Series 15, 3 million behind SNW S3, and 9 million behind the Acolyte
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Doctor Who was cancelled in part due to ratings, and in part because Disney didn't know what to make of the franchise. I heard BBC essentially tricked them into picking it up by lying about the show. Disney backed out as soon as they could. They're not even promoting the spinoff as a Doctor Who story.
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Some crew quarters, and of course the impulse engines and a photon torpedo launcher.
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>>217640571
classic scifi tv has been ravaged by modernity
>doctor who became a woman and then a gay man (the zestlord of galligay)
>star wars embraced the force is female and is boring now
>star trek is being written by people who have never watched star trek
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>>217640666
All three franchises thought they could bring in a blue ocean of female sci-fi fans, while holding onto the nerdy men who have supported them for decades.
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>disney did a doctor who series
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>>217641043
The last two seasons with the zesty fella were cofinanced by The Mouse. Now BBC is looking for a new partner and a new...everything else.
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Wow! I am glad I wasn't posting so we can have engaging on topic conversation about Star Trek for a change!
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I have to say, in the era where Netflix lost more and more movies/shows and every network just kept making their own consolidated streaming service and made you pay yet another subscription, Paramount+ really was the last straw where I was like okay naw fuck all this
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>>217641508
I watched all of TNG. I haven't seen it in a couple years though. Same with all of ENT. I own DS9 on DVD.
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I got to keep my Eva Platinum DVD boxset in the divorce. Ha! Jokes on him.
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>>217641536
Learn to sail.
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>>217641773
You caught me.
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>>217641840
It's just one of the boys.
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>>217642087
I can see how it would bomb as a general audience movie in theaters, but at least it’s true to the premise of TNG and isn’t some fuckass middle finger to fans nor too schlocky as a patrick stewart wannabe-action movie
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Nemesis was the result of everyone involved just completely being checked out, which is unfortunate because on paper there were some good ideas
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I watched the VOY pilot last night and it was funny to think about how Kurtzman's crack team of "modern writers" would handle the concept
In the actual episode, the Maquis have to join the Starfleet crew and adapt to its discipline and protocols but this would seem like outright fascism to modern "Trek writers". They're trying to turn Starfleet itself into a Guardians of the Galaxy crew so there is no way in HELL that they make the Maquis anything but the absolute heroes
If they wrote this pilot it would end up with the Starfleet crew having to join the Maquis terrorists to "freedom fight" their way back from the Delta Quadrant and all of the Starfleet characters would have to learn how to "rise above the hate" of their "militaristic, fascist doctrine" and "embrace love" or some such nonsense.
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also S1E6 "The Cloud" confirms the funny rumor that the VOY writers thought "Harry Kim" was a Chinese name, as at the start of the episode, Janeway encounters Kim in the mess hall and Kim shares some of his ancient Chinese wisdom in the form of an "ancient Chinese curse".
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Guys, my Nick Mullen holoprogram went rogue and is going around doing the Harry Kim voice again.
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>>217642516
Kim is a Korean name, but the character is Chinese.
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>>217642418
DS9 wouldn't even be made under Kurtzman because the premise is not appealing to women. Don't get me wrong, plenty of women love DS9including myself. But NuTrek wants at least a 50% female audience. I'd wager DS9 is 70-90% male viewers.
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>>217642516
Wang himself has said (lol Wang) that they initially thought Kim was Chinese and he had to tell them that it was a Korean name and it's what got him on the hot seat with the writers
The timeline matches up too
Watch S1E6, the Chinese curse bit. It's before the opening credits even. It's very much written like "Chinese guy offers some ancient wisdom to the captain" and it makes no sense for a Korean guy to do that.
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Cause and Effect is fucking awesome but holy hell it seems like a huge design oversight that all it takes is one little nick on your warp nacelle and the entire core goes critical and your ship fucking explodes as a medium-sized scale model packed full of pyrotechnics lol
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>I don't like this idea that the Galaxy class would start being phased out and replaced in only 20 years
If you think about it, the Galaxy class was a huge expensive piece of shit built from a basic idea that was really stupid, from a time when Starfleet was almost suicidally smug and complacent
They put civilians, including children, on an exploration vessel in a paradise future where that was basically the only way to get children killed. The ship was vastly oversized in order to hold families and children so they could get killed, and they tended to explode after taking what was usually pretty light damage. Every time you see a Galaxy needing to eject the giant antimatter bomb inside it, for example, it fails and the ship blows up.
Objectively they were a huge failure, doing nothing that a smaller ship could've done better and safer other than looking cool
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That doesn't mean the Galaxy class is a wash.
It just needed a refit. Remove civilians, add weapons and defensive systems in all of the space you just opened up.
It's not like it would be complicated to turn a Galaxy-class into a full on dreadnaught battelship.
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you could've....ah, nevermind
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>>217642925
New season of For All Mankind coming soon, don't miss it!
But seriously, other than looking cool what did a Galaxy do that half a Galaxy couldn't do better, while being easier to construct and not endangering the lives of hundreds of civilians for no reason whatsoever
Imagine building that without even a passive safety system for the warp core-antimatter pod stack
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>I wasn’t trying
EFFORTLESS! *clap*
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>Daisy Ridley is attractive
her and the asian gal are cute but man, to be put in the roles they were in....and the personal attacks on both. Didn't Tran nope out of being in movies? Hell, NO ONE except Oscar and Driver are getting any "notable" work post-Rise.
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>add weapons and defensive systems in all of the space you just opened up.
But then you don't need a gigantic flying city to contain its infinity interior space that you're no longer using, and you could just build the same defenses and weapons around a much more compact package
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>>217643189
GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
also un-American
Nah, you fill all of the civilian quarters with more fucking duranium and sensors and torpedo bays and fucking phaser banks and you stop being a giant PUSSY ASS BITCH EUROPEAN USA USA USA USA
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>>217643180
>the asian gal are cute
Opinion dis fucking carded
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This
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>>217643197
Yeah, the Sovereign seems like a sensible decision made by a new Starfleet leadership after all the admirals who approved "Let's build gigantic cruise ships so we can pack them full of civilians and kids and sent them off into the unknown, what's the worst that could happen" got fired, after thousands of people were killed, injured, or repeatedly endangered for no reason
>and then put the biggest torpedo launcher we've got on the nose
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>>217643313
>Opinions
are like buttholes. But anon, to each their own. 'Rose' may have looked a little rough, but the actress 'Tran' is a cute little button
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>>217643816
It's an "the actress gets pregnant" arc and a "well we can't fucking cover it up forever it starts looking ridiculous only shooting kira from the neck up for an entire season" so instead they made a fun little subplot of it
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>>217643816
Because Bashir knocked up Kira irl.
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>>217638764
The DS9 missions with all the OG actors voicing was kino.
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>shooting around a pregnant heterosexual female actress
ridiculous
>main character is a retarded dyke nigger
performing well ahead of other peeplus star trek series
does skydance need us to tell them where the bear sits?
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Yeah the story stuff voiced by the originals is worth it
once you get to the STD shit, it's basically over and you can stop playing
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i like ENT but there arent enough episodes for it to have its own channel. TOS and ENT should share
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Fuck starfleet
Fuck the federation
Fuck Picard
Fuck Jannies
Fuck ferengi
And FUCK Cardassians
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Then why not make it her kid in canon and not the weird thing of her carrying O'Neil's kid?
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>>217644179
>TOS and ENT
Patrician pairing
Kind of poetic that Star Trek started as a sci-fi adventure series that was cancelled, came back as a movie franchise, returned to TV as peak sci-fi drama, and then ended with a sci-fi adventure series that was cancelled
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>>217644334
Maybe Star Trek isn't for you, anon. Nothing wrong with that.
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>>217644254
peeplus is going end up an 2.99 per month add-on for other streams. sort of like how HBO and Showtime were add-ons for cable. theyll produce a lot less than they do now but it will be better quality and lean on sports.
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>>217644346
TOS was never a "sci-fi adventure," it was a cerebral Twilight Zone style concept show. And ENT wasn't "sci-fi adventure" either, it was just Berman Trek without a strong ensemble cast.
This is one of the dumbest opinions I see posted around here and I assume you're the guy that constantly posts it.
Do not compare Star Trek to slop like Lost in Space -- that is the "sci-fi adventure show" you're thinking of, plebian.
Now, you're dismissed.
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>he's typing a reply
I SAID DISMISSED, ENSIGN ANON.
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>>217644400
I like the cast of ENT more than the cast of TOS. I don't know if they are better written, but I like Trip and Phlox more than Sulu and Bones.
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>TOS was never a "sci-fi adventure," it was a cerebral Twilight Zone style concept show.
Absolutely retarded take
>bb-b-but what about this one heavy handed lecturing epsiode that everyone actually hates
Star Trek was a sci-fi western. Half the episodes have fistfights. The episodes everyone actually likes tend to be naval combat, and one of the very best is a straight up ripoff of a WW2 submarine movie. Nimoy had to invent the nerve pinch and thus the entire psychic powers of the Vulcan race because he was bored with a script that had him knocking out some guy with the butt of his gun. Real Twilight Zone stuff.
Jesus, for a good number of the episodes the "concept" was "we're running out of money so figure out some story that lets us use the Roman Empire/gangster/Nazi sets and costumes in the warehouse"
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>>217644525
You could however engage in open rebellion….
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>>217644491
>better than Bones
Bones is one of the best characters in all of Star Trek. Have your brain checked anon, something is very wrong with you.
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>>217644575
dis nigga knows what's up
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>>217644599
>calling BF "anon" while she makes a desperate attention whore post while trying to avatarfag as Ezri Dax, implying her disgusting, hag face is anything like Dax's
I'm guessing you're new here. Protip, never reply to BF and dismiss all of it's disgusting opinions unless you're a big tranny lover.
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>>217644570
You type like the LD schizo, all of your opinions are bait, and I will not reply to you ever again
now where was I? PROMENADE
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>>217644570
the budget management was feature, not bug. gene pretty much invented recurring characters and sets for science fiction. lost in space was basically CBS trying to execute his idea without paying him. the rest is history
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>lost in space was basically CBS trying to execute his idea without paying him
>Lost in Space: 1965
>Star Trek: 1966
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>>217644672
You may have done nothing wrong, but that doesn't mean you can't be wrong
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>>217644400
I don't really see the 'sci-fi adventure' thing as particularly relevant but I agree that ENT feels the most similar to TOS. I think it's mainly due to NX-01 being portrayed as an actual tightly-run military vessel, and the fact that there is no real galactic infrastructure where you can just 'call in reinforcements' when you get in trouble. TOS had starbases and a other ships but they were similarly spread thin so it felt like Enterprise was mostly doing its own thing on the frontiers
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>>217643963
Not true. That was the case, but recently they've shifted back to oldtrek stuff for episodes, and one of them hasYou and MirrorYouchuckKillyinto a disintegration field, clearly showing the dev's disdain for those characters. Even more recent then that has episodes completely void of nutrek characters.
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this is about right. TOS and ENT operate under the premise that only the best of the best of the best are allowed to explore deep space. TNG DS9 and VOY is more like replicators and holodecks get boring after awhile so we might as well continue exploring deep space, anyone who wants to come along is welcome.
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>>217644812
TOS is nearly as much in the horror genre as the scifi genre, so it's not surprising other defining terms wouldn't fit it perfectly either. In that regard, TOS truly stands alone as undefinable and ineffable.
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>>217644812
Your sentence structure is entirely Chinese sweetheart. You’re not asking the right questions. Your objection to it is the presence of morality at all. You feel slighted, called out and far behind in every elementary lesson in the humanity it fields
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The reason why I don't engage the "TOS is like ENT" retard is because of posts like this. This person has very clearly not seen much Star Trek. Stop getting trolled, retards.
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>>217644878
>TOS truly stands alone as undefinable and ineffable
Bruh over here acting like he is talking about Twin Peaks lmfao
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>>217644858
My favorite episodes are the ones where they just fuck around idly in a field or whatever and nothing really important happens. The interactions between those characters carries so hard that I'm still just as invested watching them dawdle.
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>>217644882
>This isn't exactly contradictory because there are still tons of morality play episodes even if they aren't the ones people like
Fair
Maybe I'd go for "when TOS was great, it was usually a sci-fi adventure show, and when it was awful it was usually a morality play or social commentary"
inb4 someone doesn't understand what "usually" means
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>>217644936
Twin Peaks is a show for pseud midwits pretending to be intelligent and artsy.
Entry level slop for people with useless BA degrees.
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>>217644936
That trek you like is coming back in style.
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>>217644922
i watch star trek almost exclusively. ENT and TOS universe are more similar to each other than either is to TNG DS9 VOY.
The presenation is very different. TOS tells a new story every episode and barely ties them together. ENT tells one story about a bunch of crazy shit that happens before it all gets erased to align with TOS
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I've always liked Damar more than Dukat.
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>>217645026
i feel the same way until bajoran dukat. i the more they want me to hate him, the more i love him
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I can understand that, at least until they completely fuck his character over toward the very end. I still like Dukat, hell, it's hard to think of a DS9 character I don't like, but Damar's actor really sells the Cardassian desperation.
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they way they never actually reconciled their relationship because they hated Dukat so fucking much they didn't bother still pisses me off
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>>217645274
for whatever reason they never tell the truth about why actors lose their jobs. mcfadden left at the same time for the same reason. the differrence is her role was filled by someone who could easily be replaced, while crosby was replaced by worf who existed specifically to replace yar if yar didnt work out because a girlboss security officer was a legit gamble in 1987
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>>217645354
And the waifufag reveals himself in all of his disgusting horror
Ironic, consider we were cheated of stuff like >>217645340 due to the writers having to spend 6 episodes establishing a brand new fucking character in the final season
They should've just killed Dax and kept her fucking dead. Ezri adds NOTHING to Season 7 narratively. Nothing.
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>worth it
No, I don't think it was. If Jadzia stayed on the show and didn't die, maybe she gets 1 (singular) episode in S7 which leaves way more room for them to actually use interesting characters like Dukat, Garak, Martok, Kai Winn, etc. If she died and stayed dead, 0.
Instead, we get a bunch of awful-to-mid-tier Ezri episodes to try and justify bringing in a new character in your final season. A complete and utter waste of time that put a lot more interesting shit on the cutting room floor, and all so vacuous retard-brained waifufaggots like yourself could copepost about it 30 years later.
Fuck off, Pakled.
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>>217645469
i almost completely agree. ezri fucking sucks but she sucks in a way that retroactively makes jadiza suck even more. i hate jadiza so fucking much. it is unreal.
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Yay! I gotta Husnock ship in Star Trek Online!
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>>217644575
>the NX-class is sexy as hell
of course it is, it's an upside down Akira, AKA the best starship form factor
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>>217645529
I disagree. I'd drill her from some Trillium if you get what I mean.
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>i watch star trek almost exclusively. ENT and TOS universe are more similar to each other than either is to TNG DS9 VOY.
That's what they were explicitly going for, too, even structuring the character focus on a TOS-style triumvirate rather than the TNG-DS9-VOY ensemble cast. I think there were a bunch of episodes where Malcom or Hoshi or Travis didn't even have a line
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>>217645848
there are no saggy tits in space
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>even structuring the character focus on a TOS-style triumvirate rather than the TNG-DS9-VOY ensemble cast
This didn't even occur to me when I was going through similarities upthread but now that you mention it you're right, I could immediately picture the Archer-T'Pol-Trip officer's mess scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43OoZB-Rwpo
I guess the in-universe reason is because Trip and T'Pol were the only Commanders on the ship?
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I like going to the windows and seeing what sort of view they'd have
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>>217645927
She needed a more experienced actress. Not many people can pull off “Old man in a young woman’s body”. I think DS9 was the first Trek to drop Gene’s mandate that all the actors needed to be classically trained with a stage background.
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I wish they had done a little more with Kira living with the O'briens. Her and Miles starting to catch feelings for each other was interesting as a very human story about proximity and intimacy with peers, but Nerys learning more about the daily lives of Federation citizens and how it might affect her feelings on Bajor joining the Feds could have made for some good stories.
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Problem with Jadzia was that they gave up on doing something interesting with her other than dealing with Kurzon's shit and becoming a Klingonboo.
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>>217646133
>chompchompchomp
>you know what ds9 needed
>slurpslurpslurpglorpglorpglorp
>more keiko screentime
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>>217646265
Unironically yes. If the whole theme of DS9 was an examination of what happens with a utopian society like the Federation is faced with dilemmas that can't be hand waved away through technobabble or flying away to the next planet, then one of the most important things to do would be to show how civilians like Keiko behave in those circumstances and not just people in the exploratory/military arm of the Federation which is Starfleet. Keiko wasn't a bitch, she just didn't have enough storylines she could engage in where she wasn't coming into conflict with Miles.
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I was thinking something along the lines of the DS9 crew discovers that Ketracel White can be more easily fabricated by sort of being incubated inside of specially bred plants from the Gamma Quadrant. Keiko, being a highly skilled botanist, becomes closely tied to the ethical dilemma of providing the Jem'Hadar a source of white not controlled by the Vorta and whether that could potentially fracture their loyalty to the Dominion.
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>>217642774
tbf the ship is getting into a collision with another that weighs like 60 billion metric tons traveling at 6 gorillion mph (it just looks slow cuz the ships are so big)
if anything the nacelle shouldve been partially vaporized from the impact
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It's not the journey to the top of the mountain that matters but the journey that happens to the ones that climb back down. When the two twisting paths become one it begins.
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hmm, yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2ftCitvyQ
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Based choice. For me, it's the Tholian Tarantula, though currently I'm leveling a Jem'hadar with a generic Dominion dreadnought.
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>>217649094
It really pisses me off that only TOS does the sparkly diamond eyes. Every other iteration is "boring bipedal dinosaur". It's a fucking SPACE ALIEN you UNIMAGINATIVE FUCKS, the disco ball eyes are an INTEGRAL DESIGN FEATURE. It's one of the most defining characteristics of the Gorn, and the only thing that really makes them unique among lizardpeople species. You want reptile-eyed lizard people? Put in a Saurian, or hell, bring back those precursor dinosaur people from Voyager. Stop fucking up Gorn you brainrotted hacks.
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I fucking hate this race
>ugly
>rude
>hate men
>show up and demand you settle millions of them on your planet
>start stealing and shooting shit
How was anyone meant to empathize with them
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>>217649512
well alright you got me there. but i don't think it wouldn't have been any different if it wasn't mirror universe. 0 faith (of the heart) in ENT and their decisions as far as maintaining integrity of the lore and races.
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I like Dixon Hill. Underutilised. Should've had him just hanging out there a lot more. Like Vic's. But I really like noir flicks and hardboiled novels, so.
In Field of Fire. The DS9 'sode about the Vulcan serial killer. Odo says:
>ODO: I read twentieth century crime novels. Raymond Chandler, Mike Hammer, that sort of thing.
Wasted opportunity. Could've thrown 'Dixon Hill' in there.
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>>217646690
A tale of tyrants, fools, and heroes.
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cum now Major...
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>>217651229
>hull plating at 45%
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>>217651297
I just want fairness
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They should be on own board
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>>217651331
no your a mentally broken retard whos spent over 6 months now posting
>generals are banned as of the...
and for some unknown reason you thought that would work, now finally after 6 months you've come up with a new post to spam
>many users
lmfao the really hilarious thing is you seem to think anyone anyone at all will believe you
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>>217651358
What the hell did you just say about me, you little Pakled? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Starfleet Academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous classified training simulations, and I have over 300 confirmed holodeck completions.
I am trained in zero-G combat, xenolinguistics, and temporal ethics, and I’m the top cadet in my entire cohort. You are nothing to me but another entry in my personal log.
I will out-debate you with a level of Federation-approved precision the likes of which has never been seen on this quadrant, mark my words. You think you can get away with saying that on subspace? Think again, ensign.
As we speak, I am contacting my network of instructors, admirals, and slightly disappointed Vulcan professors, and your academic record is being reviewed right now, so you’d better prepare for the inquiry. The inquiry that wipes out the pathetic little reputation you call your posting history.
You’re on report, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can cite Starfleet regulations in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just from memory.
Not only am I extensively trained in diplomatic conflict resolution, but I have access to the entire Federation database, and I will use it to its full extent to politely but thoroughly dismantle your argument.
If only you could have known what interstellar consequences your “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have checked your tone.
But you couldn’t. You didn’t. And now you’re facing remedial ethics training.
Qapla’nt.
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>>217651399
And they've been considered cancer for just as long, as countless posts in the archive attest, fake oldfag
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>>217646690
Probably SG-1. IF you include anime, Outlaw Star. GitS/SAC/2nd GIG would also be there, but I'm assuming you specifically mean space scifi and not cyberpunk scifi.