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>Alexander Hilary Kurtzman (born September 7, 1973) is an American filmmaker. He is best known for co-writing the scripts to Transformers (2007), Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009), Star Trek (2009), Star Trek Into Darkness (2013), and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) with his writing and producing partner Roberto Orci, and directing and co-writing The Mummy (2017). He made his directorial debut with People Like Us (2012), co-written alongside Orci and Jody Lambert.
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The most underrated Trek movie.
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>>217739078
The Federation has many good looking women.
High Elf and Night Elf women are very good looking. Wood Elf women are also very pretty. Dwarves are the fugliest of the federation races.
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>>217739075
/tv/, tell about your feelings.
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>tell him he is a pretty dog
I posted this lil guy in /tv/ because /an/ is dead and some fucker said he was a Jack Russell / Chihuahua so now I feel obligated to return and defend his honour. His mum is a farm-standard red Heeler and his dad is aMaltese cross Shih Tzu.
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>>217740014
>His mum is a farm-standard red Heeler
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>>217739651
>/tv/, tell about your feelings.
I feel somewhat gassy. I had cheese. I am definitely a bipedal human primate and not a beagle. You can sniff my butt reciprocally if you want to see I am telling the truth.
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>>217741256
At 10cm you start pushing.
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why?
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>>217741561
Desire to gain CW audience for Paramount+. Netlfix gained a lot of young subscribers by streaming CW series like Supernatural, Vampire Diaries and Riverdale. Then Netflix used CW formula for Stranger Things and Wednesday, but with much bigger budgets.
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virgin doylist
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chad watsonian
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it's just another manic Mornday
I wish it were a Gorn day
That's my porn day
My cloacas get torn day
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Watching the DS9 episode Rejoined, and it's made me wonder, could there be an emergency circumstance that would allow a Trill host to be passed from mother/father to child? How badly would that fuck up their psyche? They'd have crystal clear memories of their dad fucking them or their mom being fucked by them, not to mention the continued attraction that seems to come more from the slug than the host. The implications are deeply concerning.
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>>217742492
>*Laughs in Goa'uld Harcesis*
If you immediately know the candlelight is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago.
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>>217742582
>super smart
>manages to wander into the wrong thread
Typical Goa'uld.
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>>217742613
I was bored! You're being BOOOOOORING! Why don't we sing a round of row, row, row your boat?
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>>217742636
Fine. But if you drink the entire pot of coffee, I'll kill you.
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A nice and cozy /trek/ thread. Hell yeah.
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>>217742800
One more think LD ripped off, McThumb you hack fraud
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>>217736926
If anyone remembers my shitass OC from back then. But I've been away for so long that I just consider myself a newfag all over again now. Still lurking mostly
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>>217742984
It's not my fault he's a hack fraud. Post Trills.
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>lands role on nutrek
>nukes kevin spacey's career
>fades into obscurity
wtf is his problem?
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>>217742959
Everyone looks like they're itching to break out into a witty zingy millennial humor joke or a sick funny reference to another star trek episode or some sort of fourth wall break.
I hate this fucking art style so much
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So we all agree that Scorpius could and would kick Dukat's ass, right?
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>>217743160
Talyn... Starburst.
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Did they have really big, and more powerful holodecks back on Earth, or other planets that had the tech? Were there people who lived entirely in them as long as possible? What am I supposed to be imagining here?
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>>217743477
would you spend your entire life in a holodeck when real life was literally a science fiction utopia with aliens and spaceships? you'd still visit the holodeck sure but its not real, and what is real is pretty cool. we crave escapism because the real world sucks and what cool things do exist irl we cant afford, their real world is awesome and nobody is poor.
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>>217743477
Holodecks are a cope for being on multi year space missions. They are not as good as a real planet. It's like replicator food, having a chatbot friend or a sex doll wife. It's not as good as the real thing.
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>>217743432
>Talyn... Starburst.
>*orgasm*
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>>217743477
What this >>217743646 guy said. If nothing else, there are at least three species of catgirl (Caitian/Ferasan/Kzinti) and at least some small percentage of them would find you irresistibly attractive, since Federation citizens have more or less perfect health and wellness regimes that would be followed since a very young age, as well as perfect cosmetic surgery to correct any defects. If your choice is gooning to freaky photonic porn or finding your catgirl soul mate and having a dozen children with them, how could you resist reality?
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Is the Mirrorverse overplayed?
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It has a lot of potential, but many of the episodes and spinoffs that incorporate Mirror plots squander it. The fact they're also one-offs in later series is also frustrating, as incorporating light Mirror shenanigans in the background of some episodes could have shored up some weakpoints.
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Just finished Voyager
>more time travel shenanigans
couldn't they come up with anything else?
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>>217745351
there could be more tos memes but i think we have a fine mix as is
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>>217745894
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>>217745894
I’ll be in the holodeck with that fantastic hologram.
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>>217745735
Fuck you I liked it
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one of the worst waste of material of all time. they could have shuffled the tng movies to take on the borg last. end voy with the enterprise-E coming out of nowhere to save voyager from assimilation. release the movie a week later about picard and janeway fighting their way back to earth and finally defeating the borg by using datas positronic horseshit.
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>>217745351
>On that note why does TOS have the least amount of memes in /trek/?
BF syndrome
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>>217746050
also this would allow them to replace insurrection and nemesis with 2 movies about enterprise heading into deep deep space on a super secret mission and running into a couple stray bad guys along the way. the reveal at the end of voy would be epic
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my favorite trekpus are tos
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>>217745894
somebody has got to look their age
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These are good images! Mind if I save these?
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>>217746200
Yeah there are some good ones
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i like this one the most
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>>217745735
>Just finished Voyager
>>more time travel shenanigans
>couldn't they come up with anything else?
I can't blame them for trying to do "both endings" where it took them 30 years to get back, but also got back right now in the finale
I thought it was a mega waste in storytelling to not do a whole season about "what happens when they get back" and they get all separated and wind up coming back together in the real-real finale
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your wrong because voyager is about the journey. stories have endings and voyagers is when they get home. the problem is they got home in 45 minutes instead of 4 or 5 episodes.
in universe they were only gone 7 years and they were in regular contact with the federation for half of that time. its not that big of a deal. there wouldnt be parades and formal reunions and shit.
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watching civil defense on pluto presently. sisko jake and obrien parts are not great but the rest is fantastic.
ds9 sucks but i can see why a lot of people like it
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Thinking about the timeline where Voyager takes 16 more years to get out of the Delta Quadrant.
How the fuck?
They established regular contact with Starfleet about 7 years into the journey. So they were still doing subspace Skype calls and Starfleet was like "don't worry we're still figuring out how to get you home"?
I just find it hard to imagine.
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>>217746545
>ds9 sucks
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possibly but its not certain
phantom menace was trying a lot of new things, a lot of that didn't work, but it had the bones of something good and jarjar and annakin were some bullshit that kinda soured it. but the background plot actually gets better the more you look at it and think about it and on a rewatch you can think deeper on whats going on, it has merits. the hobbit was trying to be entertaining slop, but it was too sloppy, and not entertaining enough, but i think they tried, they should have made it classier like they did with lotr. at the end of the day i didnt get the impression they were trying to fail or trying to piss everyone off.
star treak learing academy is different. the most vapid and annoying possible woke slop bullshit characters that nobody could like. half the cast is fat lesbians, the men are all idiots and all the guidance comes from women femsplaining, every other male character is gay. a fat hologram with autism, why, who would program such an annoying creature. the inane plots, the hamfisted moralizing, nothing about it is thoughtful or requires thought. they decided on the woke messages they wanted to put out and built the episodes around that. each episode is just a vehicle to deliver those messages. messages we've heard a thousand times and dont give a fuck about. the details should serve the plot but the plot serves the details. details like gay klingon having 2 dads and 1 mom living together, not because it serves the plot or character, but because they wanted "representation" for alternative family structures and forced the plot to serve that.
and they had to know it was awful, that nobody would like it. we've had years of this wokeslop, its never gone down well, its never been popular, there is no audience for it. it alienates the people who actually watch star trek in service to virtue signallers who get off on calling you racist if you dont watch it. theyre not watching it either. they saw this coming. so why?
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why is starfleet so fucking bad at combat
they get their asses hand to them in every single episode the ship or station or whatever gets boarded
they shoot one phaser beam then look around or some shit when they get shot
>hurr durr they're explorers first
motherfucker they can blow up stars if they want to there is no reason for them not to have advanced personal combat armor and firearms proficiency
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>voyager is about the journey
that's wrong. that's the obvious thing as a smokescreen, but you need to dig deeper to find the real meaning.
Voyager was about "Family" and that missing season would have been about them realizing they all belonged together, no matter where they were going. (they would even go back and pick up Neelix from wherever they ditched him)
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politics
getting everyone strapped to clap would be seen as an act of preparation for war by the other space powers and they would respond accordingly. half the reason starfleet gets away with being the big swinging dick in the alpha quadrant without it being perceived as threatening and triggering a hundred arms races across the galaxy, is stafleets absolute devotion to friendmaxxing. they can't train too hard for war or prepare too much for battle because everyone is watching and many civilizations will convince themselves starfleets preparing to attack and they need to attack first. but if starfleet plays it cool they can amass more power for defence overall without war then if they played up the defense angle from the start.
and personal combat armor aint gonna do shit against a phaser anyways.
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based quads
As time goes on I just cannot bring myself to hate the SW prequels. You have to admire the fact that it was one autist (Lucas) using his own money to make something he wanted. And they were full of all kinds of insane shit that only he understood. But I respect that. Everything is designed by committee nowadays; you don't get passion projects like that anymore.
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>so far
ive been watching star trek with varying intensity for over 30 years. for the past several years ive been watching trek on pluto for 6+ hours everyday.
voyager is my favorite. after thats its TOS-TNG 1&2, then DS9 and ENT. ive never tried making a top ten ep list but i think i would include least one episode from each series, even though ds9 sucks
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yes, humanity was heavily traumatized by almost destroying itself in multiple wars. then heavily confidence boosted by managing to avoid repeating those mistakes for centuries. its part of humanities deeply ingrained cultural mindset that we will absolutely never let ourselves become warmongers ever again. humanity is more afraid of what it could become then any external enemy.
quark understands it well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D2SHNqkjbY
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>its a fine b story
thats what i mean. its fine. not great. basically they are dealing with the same problem but just bide their time until they save everyone at the last moment.
the a plot with dukat and garak has all sorts of subtext and universe expansion and shit. its great
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>>217746912
The other Capitans don't have fun? Huh, I guess I never noticed how less fun the other shows are. Why do you think that is? Worse writing? Or is Shatner just better at acting so the fun comes off as more sincere?
I am just honestly wondering how and why I never noticed this before.
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Fun is subjective, Picard for example finds fun in his own way like archeology and ships in bottles, etc. Very aristocratic and emotionally detached somewhat from the crew for professional reasons i.e. not joining in on poker night. Kirk is a lot more cowboy and up-front. Picard is more willing to lecture you and put on a performance of intellectual might and wit. But Picard obviously does not lack interests and what would be described as "fun" to his own personal tastes
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>>217747049
>still no cure for male pattern baldness...
they originally DID want to give Picard a wig to wear, like they cured baldness, but they countered with the argument that in the nice future, nobody would care if he was balding.
it's the same thing with [insert correct word for FAT] characters in Discovery. think about this argument: unlimited replicator food would make you fat, but future medicine would fix whatever was wrong with you, for being fat. such a future all of humanity would be like in Wall-E
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these have small pp energy
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it has nothing to do with being a good captain. kirk is better because he is more fun and thats the point of entertainment.
i like picard but if i have to chose im picking kirk because he is more fun. its that simple
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>fun is the point of entertainment
This website is supposed to be for people 18 years of age or older.
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>>217747127
if it was obrien and kira and dax stuck in ore processing it wouldnt matter because all of them are theoretically expendable. the b plot requires sisko and jake to suppport it because they cannot possibly be sacrificed. of course all of the main characters have plot armor in a mid season but theres a subtely to it that makes its less interesting
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>>217747261
Sisko, O'Brien, and Jake get fucking trapped in there. They're not in there on vacation. Jake was helping O'Brien and learning stuff which was something of a running theme through this season and his dad comes in to check on him.
Oh no! What an unbelievable set up! Such bullshit! My suspension of disbelief is ruined!
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>>217747251
>I don't find fun watching
Thanks, Lieutenant.
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maybe my problem with it is because i have watched it so many times. its not long after that jake declares he is going to be a writer which is somehow still a thing in the age of holodecks creating functionial universes from 2 sentence prompts
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>>217747291
I feel this way about black coffee or dark chocolate. I don't like coffee with milk or milk chocolate at all.
I wish I was as confident about my own uneducated opinions like you are.
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What exactly are the medical uses of this device?
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>>217747291
or maybe the chocolate in question is shit, like most garbage sold these days.
your analogy is illogical, it makes no sense whatsoever
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is this supposed to be an insult? I think I prefer Picard, but every other captain has more depth and its more fleshed out than Kirk. Kirk is not even a good captain too, he is an action hero.
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>Kirk is not even a good captain too, he is an action hero.
Goddamn have you only watched the TOS movies or something? No, even that wouldn't justify such a terrible opinion. You have literal shit for brains.
Leave this thread and never come back.
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>>217742768
>All of your gods are false
>Here, take these guns
This is why the kirk-picard debate is no debate whatsoever
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>>217747355
>always be yourself
>unless you can be captain kirk
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dat gif...
there was literally NO reason Dax would not have piloted the Defiant like she always does. Bashir would have gone along, too.
Dukat magically appearing/disappearing from the station was ridiculous writing as well, why not drop off a small time-bomb while you're there? blow up the whole station? if it's so easy to pop in and dip out
I'll even concede the "magic don't need explaining" attack Dukat killed Jadzia with, b-but not the Tummy Worm, and make sure she lives long enough to gasp out a sad thing for Worf!
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or maybe its that the next episode is meridian.
holy fuck ds9 sucks
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>>217747502
Puppet episodes
>scrubs
Good
>Community
not good
>Farscape
[farts helium]
>SNW
probably not good
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What the FUCK was his problem?
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>and personal combat armor aint gonna do shit against a phaser anyways.
There's the old chestnut of making it out of whatever those storage barrels are made of. We see a lot of shots that get stopped by storage barrels or rocks or other inanimate objects that one could only infer would stop a bullet because they're made from some advanced space age material.
I suppose the argument would be that "if people wear body armour that's effective, people will just fire their weapons at a higher standard output."
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I ain't gon cap bros...she does it for me
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growing up is realizing the trade federation was not actually some simple mindless bad guy, they had legitimate grievance, the core worlds were taxing the outer worlds to death. a blockade of naboo was a legitimate move and should have lead to peace talks but palpatine wanted war. the only real "bad guy" was palpatine. even dooku had legitimate concerns about a coming threat to the entire galaxy he had seen in visions but nobody took seriously, so he went off to amass power on his own only to be seduced by the dark side and betrayed by palpatine. and general grevious was only put there to commit atrocities so republic propaganda would have something to chew on, but the people of the confederacy had no reason to believe that propaganda was legit. it was actually all very deep and clever but its never spelled out so on a first watch or watching it while young you miss it. even the b1 battledroids, they were gimped on purpose so they wouldnt win too easily by giving them emotions like fear, they were done dirty by palp too. and an army of 8 year old clones, thats dirty. nobody was the good guy and only palpatine was the bad guy.
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why were the Dixon Hill episodes so good?
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>>217747906
>anons i'm attracted to the conventionally attractive woman
bold admission
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Yeah, I see the point.
I never thought much about it, but I always kind of thought that ship to ship was a sort of hybrid of human and computer targeting - the person operating the weapons console would pick targets at their discretion or the commanding officer's orders, and the computer would lock on and select proper firing angle, vector, etc. And with torpedoes it'd be the same: the console operator picks the target and fires, and then the torpedoes have onboard tracking and targeting computers that course correct as much as they can.
With how often computers and such turn evil, it's probably not a good idea to 100% turn weapons control over to computers. And it does go against the idea of us wanting to improve ourselves to the best we can be and constantly improve; turning these kinds of things over to computers would go against that.
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>pretty cat
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>>217748198
Yeah, ship combat specifically is also meant to evoke the Age of Sail. Which ties in well with the exploration element.
It's just one of those things you kind of have to ignore in Trek. Like how often they don't just transport people to sickbay.
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>>217748602
Noted about the movies, may just watch them all in order like you suggested
>voy/ent
I've heard these, particularly Enterprise, are a notable dip in quality from the rest. Voyager maybe one day, but at 7 seasons length it better be quality
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Please die, homosexual who does not understand heterosexual male friendships.
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>>217749346
Neat, thanks, I'll try and get my hands on it. It doesn't need to directly involve it. Just anything good or fun that might peak my fancy.
Is there a recommendation chart of TOS books anywhere?
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Damn, can't even have a fetish in this thread...
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>>217749627
Shippers have always been pure cancer and Kirk/Spock shippers are probably some of the first (and worst) of all time.
I haven't checked in forever but if you typed "Kirk and Spock" into Youtube looking for like, compilation clips years ago, it would be nothing but a bunch of fag shipping mv's with some gay song playing. Absolutely disgusting and I will hate them forever for that.
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>>217749647
Isn't that a modern problem of the consolidated and centralization of the internet? I agree, it's distasteful to have it out in the open on a normie site like youtube. It didn't use to be so bad, we used to have the same discretion as the Japanese have. Blame the wokefag shippers...
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>>217747698
>Miles Edward O'Brien I am still your wife!
No, really, WHAT were they thinking?
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>>217750161
lol no it's not as creative or interesting as that
The story of "the burn" is that some alien kid cried really hard and it caused all of the dilithium (primary warp power source) all over the galaxy to explode at the same time (somehow) basically so he could try to turn Trek into some gay dystopia because all he knows how to write are superweapons as dramatic devices.
I'm not shitting you, that's the story. Also this destroyed the Klingon homeworld and turned them into hunter-gatherer refugees apparently because Kurtzman doesn't know what an interstellar empire is
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>>217750207
>Vulcans are refugees in the Kelvin timeline
>Romulans are refugees in the original timeline
>Klingons are refugees in the distant future
Fucking kek they had one idea 15 years ago and just keep recycling it.
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>>217750207
>dilithium (primary warp power source)
But that's not how it works at all.
Federation Warp Cores are powered by matter/anti-matter reactions, which are easily produced by using dilithium crystals. Even without dilithium powered reactors, you can still have warp technology. You just need a sufficiently powerful source of energy. The Phoenix didn't use dilithium, it was powered by a modified nuclear warhead.
Hell, the fucking Romulans use artificial quantum singularities as their power source.
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>>217750312
I know all of this. Kurtzman does not know any of this.
There are a ton of alternatives. Voyager comes home with experience in slipstream technology, with schematics for "trajector" space folding technology, and Borg transwarp technology.
He doesn't know that either.
The Romulan singularity drive is the biggest oversight -- literally powered their whole fucking fleet and obviously Starfleet had the specs.
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I just rewatched the Ds9 episode Defiant again. How the hell is this episode so highly rated. Nothing about it makes sense. Rikers actions make zero sense he abandons his mission after like 3 seconds after doing literally nothing. Then the Kardassians are insanely generous with their offer for the surrender. This episode fucking sucks.
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New anon. I first watched that episode when I was around 12 so I just thought it was funny, nothing deeper.
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>>217742855
I like the pic I took more.
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>>217746218
Kick her ass
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why did the nudoctor misquote picard's drumhead speech so badly to the point where it didnt make grammatical sense? were the writers on lean or did it serve a narrative purpose, like was he was waiting for the class to fill in the missing words?
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As of fan of The Blob, this episode was kino
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>>217751241
my theory
paramount is for sale and buyers want a lower price so they bribed people on the star trek show to make sure it would suck real bad, so the value of paramount, and thus the price of buying it, didn't go up. the only thing that explains how bad this show is: sabotage.
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>>217744085
Section 31 and too much Mirror Mirror Universe is why DS9 and DISCO are twins.
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>>217751969
In SA Holly Hunter stares right into the camera and says
>we must NEVER separate children from parents
and then DING! stephen colbert cameo teehee!
Real hacky shit. These new-aged writers can’t help themselves
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I could have done with one or two more episodes of Keiko in DS9. Not a huge deal but give her some of the trauma everyone else gets. Miles gets fucked up many, many times in the show. It should have effected their relationship more given his PTSD.
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>>217751963
You have to admire Kurtzman et al. for that move. If only begrudgingly. As a v lazy person myself, respect. Those writers were faced with doing so much homework. They don't know Trek, they don't like it. And now having to research through all those decades worth of established Klingon lore. To write something that naturally fit comfortably within Star Trek canon. So, they looked at that task and said: 'fuck it. Let's just blow it all up. So we can do whatever we want, make it whatever we say it is. Make them all refugees again lol'.
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>>217752058
>I have to go... get my um... saddle
That bit is funny. Making a bad excuse to leave an annoying guys dinner party is funny.
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>>217752479
Amongst themselves. They arms-dealt and war-profiteered from other alien folk's wars though.
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>>217752519
She'll whisper in your ear that mourn was better.
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*Ending theme song is played on a different instrument*
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>>217752895
You know how Enterprise altered their theme song a couple seasons in. Because it was so bad. They added that bossa nova guitar strum to make it a little more upbeat. What they should've done is do what The Wire did. Have the theme song be a different cover version each season. And that way the song can be more thematic for that season's story. Like, in teh Xindi war arc. The season's Faith of the Heart could've been sung in a grizzled way. Or, to fit the early-'00s era, aggressively covered by a Rap-Rock Nu-Metal Pop-Punk band? And the heartfelt last season would be this one:
https://youtu.be/pMNiVjN5e6I?si=qOzlGUDLTYzhb-AB&t=175
But, The Wire debuted a year latter than Enterprise. So they couldn't copy it. Because they hadn't seen them do it yet, sadly.
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>>217753059
>Faith of the Heart could've been sung in a grizzled way
The song was first recorded by Rod Stewart, he has that kind of raspy vocal
https://youtu.be/PPiy5eO7hpc
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it's a dialogue
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>>217753372
Janeway action figure got a Captain Angel type vibe
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>>217753433
She's a character from Star Trek
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>>217753532
I just skimmed her wikipedia page. I didn't see any mention of THAT. But, under the 'personal life' section it says she is a distant relative of Harvey Keitel. That's pretty neat. Maybe at the next family BBQ she can convince him to guest star with her in a SNW 'sode?
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>q is mortal and dying
>he goes to see picard and not janeway
retarded
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Since December I have been binging all of TNG, films and 3 seasons of DS9 with 3 seasons of voyager. Each season has like 20-30 episodes. The content is large.
Finally made it up to the cyborg hottie in a bodysuit. I am hyped.
'Question. Did TomBoy Kes acquire long hair during the time travel episode? It just...appeared?
I know her species ages fast and live short lives, do they grow hair super fast as a result?
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>>217753830
for a single scene before he snapped himself into looking his current age, but it was wholly unnecessary. the scene could've gone something like
>Q, upon sighting Picard: The years haven't been kind, have they?
>Picard: Nonsense, you don't look so bad
>Q looks indignant, then breaks into a wry grin
there, bam, done and dealt with
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>The story of "the burn" is that some alien kid cried really hard and it caused all of the dilithium (primary warp power source) all over the galaxy to explode at the same time (somehow) basically so he could try to turn Trek into some gay dystopia because all he knows how to write are superweapons as dramatic devices.
The worst part is that the original concept he pulled from had a better reason for impaired warp travel: fractured subspace due to use of Omega in a future Romulan-Federation war, one in which the Vulcans pulled out of the Federation because they were still negotiating unification.
That's right, a tabled cartoon made more narrative sense than crying kid
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Thoughts on Enterprise captain Rachel Garrett?
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>>217754707
Yup. Unfortunately she was in that crap S31 movie
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>>217748121
I don't really think that was the point of the episode. Yes, the conversion therapy works, but the episode still ends with Riker (and the audience) being upset that it happened. I think it is a masterclass in LGBT writing and I'm not even joking.
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>paid Disney shills are active on /trek/
WEIRD
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MILES!