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>Alexander Hilary Kurtzman (born September 7, 1973) is an American filmmaker. He is best known for co-writing the scripts to Transformers (2007), Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009), Star Trek (2009), Star Trek Into Darkness (2013), and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) with his writing and producing partner Roberto Orci, and directing and co-writing The Mummy (2017). He made his directorial debut with People Like Us (2012), co-written alongside Orci and Jody Lambert.
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THIS IS NOW A RO LAREN APPRECIATION THREAD! POST YOUR FAVORITE ENSIGN RO MOMENTS
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I just watched the episode with Odo's mentor. Does Rene stay the best actor throughout the series?
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We made it yall
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zoomers dont know that tv shows were considered lower tier acting jobs, even very popular shows like TNG were still "just tv shows" in the acting landscape. Committing to a 6 year tv show if you had aspirations of doing more could really hamper your career. For example, ER was the most popular show in the world and George Clooney left to pursue his movie career.
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You can tell Patrick Stewart was frustrated he was tied down to a TV show for seven years and then a film series based on that TV show. Instead of fans walking up to him in the street like "I loved that Shakespeare play you did! You were great in that movie that won all those awards!" it was more like nerds squealing "Hey, you're Captain Picard! Make it so!"
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>tfw you realize after Quark came to understand the Federation's insidiousness he began using the selfsame tactics in his own dealings
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Garak and Ziyal is weird but she's like 20. I always saw their relationship as Ziyal having a school girl crush on Garak and Garak just liked her because he could tell she was a good person and he enjoyed being able to talk to another Cardassian who doesn't hate him, also he liked making Dukat angry.
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Federation penal colonies seemed pretty fucking sweet in Voyager, no wonder Bashir's dad treated his two year sentence like a mild inconvenience, it's basically a summer camp.
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TNGnewfag and I just watched 'Yesterday's Enterprise' and I think this is one of the best Star Trek episodes I've seen yet. Everything about it was perfect. It had the theme of sacrifice for a better future, the darker lighting and tone to reflect the situation the characters are now in, Picard as a war captain and more importantly Tasha as a character felt realised and purposeful compared to before.
I honestly feel like they could've made more episodes in this time fuckery because it just was so interesting to me. I also enjoy Guinan as a ship counsellor/psychic much more than Troi.
I haven't watched TOS series yet so some of the nostalgia may have gone over my head but it was just so enjoyable.
>Let's make sure history never forgets the name Enterprise
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
10/10 episode
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>>217756412
Yesterday's Enterprise is a great example of why you should light the set as you film the episode, and not send everything to be fixed in post.
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>>217756814
Lower Decks, which is Harley Quinn, which is Rick and Morty-tier. Which is to say - BAD
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>>217756814
>Starfleet Quality Learing Center
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It's the kind of episode that underscores why new shows are terrible at sparking imagination and wonder. Any kid Wesley's age would watch the episode and want to know more about the world it takes place in. What kid is watching ACK and getting their imagination stimulated?
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>>217757272
I like it up until the end where their solution to being in the middle of nowhere is to just think positive thoughts.
This dude was kino though
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Picard basically ordered the whole ship to do a spirit bomb for the Traveler and it worked.
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>>217757126
sabotage so that paramount can be sold for a lower price is my theory. a hit star trek would have pumped up the selling price. bribe some people at paramount to make it shit as possible, using woke as a cover, save millions. it's the only explanation that makes sense.
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>>217755522
why not tuesday edition on a tuesday?
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>>217757126
Anyone noticed how often NuTrek has its characters throw racial slurs at each other that are supposed to be funny? Fishdick for instance, could you imagine Wesley Crusher making fun of Mordock's re-breather?
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What's your take on 'cademy?
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Ep 1/2 weak
Ep 3 amusing but not really trek
Ep 4 felt like Trek
One thing that I noticed was they pronounced Klingon words properly. There is no "S" in Klingon, it is a retroflex sibilant (like "sh" but with the tip of your tongue touching the palate). I liked that little detail in names like Qo'noS and KahleS.
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>Ep 4 felt like Trek
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>>217760460
He said something like Kaylish, and a sentence later he pronounced it more like Kayless.
Holotard pronounced Kithomer wrong as well. It's Kito-mer, not Kitoh-mur
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>>217760529
Why did they make Geordie smart and Holotard retarded? Geordie was a little awkward with the ladies but he was never retarded. He took rejections like an adult and was an absolute pro at his job. I can't comprehend why writers feel that retarded looking ugly fatties are something their favorite minorities will look up to.
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One thing I note with Kurtz Trek is the magical plant or animal being plot elements or used to resolve a situation. Often these plants or animals are whimsically designed in some way. This is definitely a Star Wars thing. Star Trek has always been more focused on technology being the solution.
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>>217760833
This is their way of mining DS9 for nostalgia instead of a remake or legacy sequel. DS9 patricians will never watch ACK and ACK viewers can't sit through an episode of DS9 without checking their phone every 5 minutes.
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>ACK viewers
I don't know who those people are anyway. I genuinely don't think there are any more than a couple of thousand people watching this, not even five figure numbers. Most likely it's just the trekmemes reddit.
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>>217761002
Who wanted a TOS remake before the Kelvin movies? SNW was likely going to dovetail into another TOS remake before Skydance put the kibosh on it. It's a shame the series is stuck with the Vaseline effect but it's still preferable to a remake from modern paramount.
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>>217761048
The show barely cracks the top ten on release day. It gets beat by 30 year old sitcoms that were very cheap when they were made. The only people watching ACK are chud YouTubers farming reaction content.
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>>217761345
Star Trek was optimistic about the future. Nobody is optimistic about the future today. We've all accepted that things will get steadily worse until the next big war.
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Sherislop is boomer wish fulfilment the way Star Trek is nerd wish fulfilment. They want to pretend they're badass cowboys when they get off their trucker or warehouse shift.
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How do boomers react to scenes likes this
https://youtu.be/HnTW05U8Tic?si=9ZNW0gmFeyRDl7Y_
And
https://youtu.be/YscqvroL7vg?si=Aa9ggTGGtAmCRrIn
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They can't even use the excuse "Her creator made her in her own image" like Data and EMH.
*I have only seen TNG and have yet to start VOY. But I heard it was the same thing with the doctor
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>>217755561
He wrote "scorpion" which is a show for pajeets and single mothers. Brown single mothers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Haa5GdYICOI
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Ha, it makes sense from an alien perspective. The holocreatures have never been to Earth and everything they know comes from publicly available data sources. So the aliens googled Earth and simply asked what's the most common human appearance on Sol 3, we don't want our recruit to stick out.
The computer would answer that the most common human appearance is a dark skinned femlae humanoid who is a little chubby which is seen as a sign of high fertility.
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So I started watching DS9 again and I just noticed the wormhole isn't shown in the opening credits of the first episode. I never noticed that before. Pretty interesting that they wanted to keep it a surprise. I miss the time when shows would respect their audience.
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How do you know that?
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Maybe massless organisms like photonics fetishize mass, and creatures made of light fetishize darkness. The grass is always greener on the other side.
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Wasn't the future president some half spoonhead half wrinklenose hottie? We gonna see that dime in ACK?
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You didn't know how good you had it
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Barclay begins mass replicating HyperAggressive Warrior Datas with the strength of forty men, and they go around bending furniture and doorways out of shape, inconveniencing millions. Meanwhile, Geordie and Barclay have been going absolutely feral in carnal holodeck debauchery
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>Why is no one talking about Starfleet Academy?
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Let's make sure that history forgets the name Starfleet Academy.
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>Star Trek Scouts JR, Roo, and Sprocket blast off on a space adventure to rescue a baby nobonimbus monkey stolen by Shadowtrix, the sneakiest evil kitty thief in the galaxy. In this holodeck rescue, watch them suit up, zoom through an asteroid storm, and use amazing space tools like a phaser to stop Shadowtrix and save the day.
is this canon?
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never heard of that show but did they bring back the life support belts?
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whats for dinner, /trek/?
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>>217762995
Why do all characters look the same these days? Is some kind of default setting in their unreal engines?
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Do it all the way
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Bones, Scotty, and Spock are in TNG so that makes TNG official Star Trek. There is also the Generations movie which has Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov in it as well
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The best Gundam is Amuro!
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>>217763833
More of a Hunk guy myself. Yellow lion best lion. Get fucked, Pudge.
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>tfw he invites you over for netflix and chill and you see his french press
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>>217763929
>computer, water
>temperature?
>12 oncians
>this system is calibrated to the celsius/metric system
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>Barclay begins mass replicating HyperAggressive Warrior Datas with the strength of forty men, and they go around bending furniture and doorways out of shape, inconveniencing millions. Meanwhile, Geordie and Barclay have been going absolutely feral in carnal holodeck debauchery
This is canon now.
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>what's the most kino quote from any star trek show only a pro would know?
For me, it's the Kirk captain's log voiceover where he says "NOMAD!"
I love the way he delivers that name with equal parts exasperation and fear.
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>tfw she sees my siphon and appreciates my perfect mound
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I toyed around with an idea for some series that's a send off for everything TNG kickstarted in 87 before they move onto the 26th century and landed on:
>arc 1: sisko and garak's false flag gets exposed, big geopolitical crisis, the powers resolve it with a trial where each faction gets their pound of flesh: garak, DS9 guy who initially sanctioned sisko's manipulation, and vreenak's brother who exposed the whole false flag (and killed a lot of people along the way) are all the fall guys
>arc 2: feds encounter their genuine ideological dark mirror. Some multispecies confederation that can and will use violence and coercion to admit new members if peace doesn't work; they were founded by four species coming together consensually like the feds and have created countless paradies like the feds. They aren't this one species dominating countless others (dominion, terrans), they have an actual ideology, they are ruthless, but not mustache twirlers. They don't even want to conquer the feds, they see them as simply competitors/ideological rivals for new worlds to admit. Resolution to the arc: involves the Mirror Universe as a means to convince them reassess everything they believe
>arc 3: iconian war, STO inspiration, not direct adaption as such
Certainly a wankfest involving TNG, VOY, DS9 and Picard S3 characters but it's a hypothetical in my mind to finally do some send off to the TNG era that, frankly, is still ongoing to some degree.
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the only way, is janeway
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Using 'Herbert' as a slur
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Trek is like the only series with well written, yet empowering autist characters. I've never felt so valid and seen as I have when I watch Barclay and Odo episodes.
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I remember sort of thinking that too. That he's famous for Trek and X-Men, but he would rather his legacy be as a serious, dramatic actor. That's the vibe he gives. But, looking through his acting credits, the legacy he has is his own fault. He has only done a very small handful of films that are actually good. Hamlet and Green Room, voice acting and half a dozen mediocre TV-movies. Not much of a film career outside Trek and X-Men. And surely he had offers, turned down roles in movies that turned out to be great. And yeah, he does plays. That's his passion maybe. But, Ian McKellen does plays too. And similar to Pstew, Ian McKellen is best know for X-Men and LotR. But, McKellen has also done a lot of well-received small movies. Working in several movies a year for a lot of his career. Which Stewart never did.
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I was going to google a picture of him in that pink beret to make a joke . . . and the image search results came up with pictures of him in drag and . . . seriously this dude just has no one to blame but himself.
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>RLM has no plan to review Starfleet Academy
Bitch. I was seriously looking forward to that. Even had a 2 for 1 deal on a pizza from the slop delivery app.
I don't know if they just think it's not worth it or Rich Evans literally cannot take this shit anymore.
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>Kurtzman promised them some kind of long-term loyalty establishment
NuTrek from the cradle. What a horrifying prospect.
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>long-term loyalty establishment for the next 20 years.
they had that already until kurtzman
it doesnt matter how woke they make star trek, there arent enough woke retards and women interested in spaceship shows in the world to make up for the fans they lost
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Yeah sorry except for that one.
I think overweight 50 year old men would literally just be happy with one piece of media that resembles old Star Trek. They're never going to get it. If lightning strikes once it's going to last for 3 episodes before a girlboss starts fixing everyone's problems or some hamfisted allegory for modern politics gets inserted.
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>>217766950
>Maybe straight men watch Star Trek. We don't know. Frankly, we don't want to know. It's a market we can do without.
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I don't like the word retarded as a derogatory slur but I have no better way to describe what I'm watching. When the exciting opener to your show is that there are "7 mysterious signals" and then they forget about 4 (5?) of them it just makes no sense on levels that go beyond the idea of science fiction or a television show.
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Should've just strafed the Mexicans with their Spitfires.
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I wonder if anyone in the ACK time period larps as fighter pilots in Operation Return on the holodeck.
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>I imagine them trembling in fear in the presence of the Doomslayer even while knowing he is the hero who saved them all. But you could never cast such a tormented soul. And to show such truths to the human eyes would only scar them knowing what real truth await at the end of this path of training and grooming.
I'll cry for (you).
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More kvetching on outer /tv/ it seems
Star Trek fans seem like a peaceful race. They mostly just sit here in this one general specifically and post memes from TNG while there's a storm howling outside and elonx yells about this overweight racist manbaby that I have never actually met.
I'm so sorry that you've had to go through this. If you guys don't care at all then I guess it doesn't matter. Keep posting.
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Kys cuck. Go back to redd*t
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I don’t hate it. Too much casual swearing and rapid cuts to build tension, but the Federation rebuilding setting is carrying it for me. Picardo still kills it as the EMH, they have an interesting Klingon character and story going, and I don’t actively hate any of the characters. The writers understand the universe enough that I’m interested where they go with it.
Also really hoping they elaborate on what happened with the Jem’Hadar after DS9. They opened the door to something interesting and I’m curious if they can stick the landing.
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Yesterdays Enterprise is overrated as fuck
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>>217770004
/trek/ is positive all the time. Positive about Dukat and Neelix and Trekpu. And a lot of other Star Trek things.
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Started watching this for the first time today, I'm genuinely shocked that the 60s show is as compelling as it is. The acting is a bit hammy, especially from the extras at times, but it's pretty good. The scene between Spock and Kirk in The Naked Time was pretty great. Why does everyone look like they're sweating so often though?
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>I'm genuinely shocked that the 60s show is as compelling as it is
That shouldn't be too surprising. The Twilight Zone is better than pretty much every TV show today. And was before TOS.
I don't mean to make too much of a deal out of it, but if that is truly your attitude. Being shocked that a show from the '60s is actually good. You should watch more old things. because honestly, they often don't just hold up. But are better. There are flicks from the '40s that are the best you'll ever watch.