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Maekar the Macelet

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Sleepy Daeron Waters

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>>217766790

>>217766866
holy shit they actually learned their lesson from thrones and have a realistic looking bludgeoning weapon

I cant wait to read winds of winter in 2030

Robert Baratheon was a Blackfyre

Is the guy who said Aegon V was going to sacrifice a baby for dragons but Dunk kills him first basing it on anything?

>>217766983
It’s likely given the all the hints

>>217766973

>Robert
>jet black hair
>blue eyes
>massive build

Yeah definitely a Blackfyre you fucking retard

>>217766983
This is basically what we know about the Tragedy of Summerhall:

>Summerhall's maester Corso sent a letter before his death, describing the tragedy, but a mishap led to ink blotting out much of the information:

the blood of the dragon gathered in one …
… seven eggs, to honor the seven gods, though the king's own septon had warned …
… pyromancers …
… wild fire …
… flames grew out of control … towering … burned so hot that …
… died, but for the valor of the Lord Comman …

>>217766983
Egg's fall to madness could be very kino. The toxic mixture of "I'm doing this for the people" "the Targaryens our their saviors" could justify anything in his mind

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>>217767007

>>217767015
I just always assumed that line meant Dunk played firefighter and carried passed out people outside until he finally collapsed from smoke inhalation or something

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1st for Rohanne Weber

>>217767101
There's a lot of ways the story could go. But we won't know until the fat man WRITES THE FUCING BOOKS

>>217767146
Dolly Little?

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>>217766790
Reminder that marital sex is not rape

Its kinda obvious that GRRM put civil wars, plagues, summerhall etc to cull the targaryen line otherwise it would have so many cadet branches like real royals do.

>>217767203
Meanwhile, in the North....

>>217766983
only death can pay for life, what could you possibly kill that you love so much it would make the sun rise again

Aegon needed dragons

>>217767203
The cadet branch rebelled

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My King.....

>>217767269
Heath Ledger?

>>217767185
Another example of christians being disgusting animals

Is the nights watch an all you can eat situation in the books Sam and Jon seem to stroll into the dining room whenever they happen to be hungry, at least in the summertime

>>217766866
>Sigil as two legs
No wonder GURM loves this show

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Humiliation ritual

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>Don't fucking scream at me you dumbfuck you
>look at you with your stupid crown, fucking 48% body fat
>and you, you scrawny albino one eyed bastard
>fuck you guys

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>there are anons right now unironically shitting on the incredibly comfy kino that is akotsk
ngmi

>>217766866
IT'S COLD SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT SHRIVELED!

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>>217767384

Tumblr is obsessed with asoiaf Targaryan lore because they love the "special superpeople" trope usually present in fantasy. These people will find some random Targ shitter George mentions once and base their entire personality around them. They haven't read the books or even watched the show but are obsessed with Targs. Just check out the hotd fangirls it's nothing but fangirl shit about their favorite incestuous Targ.

>>217767473
Tumblr's been doing that with different franchises for like two decades at this point.

Have they started making Targ OCs, and shipping them with other characters?

>>217767491
Go to archiveofourown.org and be drowned in cancer

>>217767511
>Go to GoT category
>second fic is Arya x Aegon IV

lmfao

>>217767511
Whenever Anons claim women can't have autism I just point them at AO3

>>217767473
isn't tumblr full of leftists? How do they cope with the fact Valyrians are basically magic nazis?

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new tat, what do you think?

>>217767491
>Have they started making Targ OCs, and shipping them with other characters?
Literally yes. They love shipping themselves with Aemond

>>217767619
DA KING IN DA NORF

>the only kingdom to shoot down a dragon
>was never conquered
>only joined the fold with marriage
>gets to keep the prince/princess title
>has better perks than the rest of the kingdom
why did gurm give Dorne so much plot armor bros? seeing all this, it makes sense why so many people sided with the Blackfyres

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You know what we call Tagaryens in the Reachz Dunk? Mushrooms, because they have no roots here, they just sprung up one day and many of them are poisonous.

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>>217767511
Barely any gay shit... if this is cancer then other fanbases have it terminal

>>217767511
I personally enjoy fics of ole Bobby B living the good life

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Haha right? Only a community of losers would ever obsess over a Targ….

>>217767720
Anyone watch Ponies?

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>Ugghh those chickens aren’t sitting right, better wash it down with some more arbor gold

>>217767399
Yeah they pretty much nailed it so far except for a few minor details

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You know what, Baelor, I apologize for my rudeness. Come, brother, let us enjoy a couple of nice cold Fossoway Ciders™.

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2nd for Rohanne Webber

>>217767856
dude is this a child

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>obligatory talking about fisting men's asses scene to fill HBO's vulgarity quota

>>217767399
they ruined several key scenes so far. the shittiest one being the Baelor scene.
it doesn't make sense even in show canon.

>>217767539
>Arya x Aegon IV
kino

>>217767856
Nigga this is cringe

>>217767935
literally could have been about anything else too. like if she was a cripple who was really good at handies it wouldnt have changed a thing.

Gods i wish they’d all lived long enough for Robb to pimp that bitch Catelyn out and make her marry someone for a political gain

>>217767167
dolly little

>>217767975
Catelyn Bolton, Lady of the Dreadfort.

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>>217766790
Can someone explain to me, why was Dorne the hardest kingdom to conquer? They had the smallest population, which was heavily concentrated in Sunspear, if Sunspear fall the entire population is fucked because they would have no other choice but too go die in the desert. They also are by far the closest kingdom to Essos geographically speaking. Shouldnt all this make it easier to conquer them?

>>217767856
she has a single long braid

>>217767185
And even beyond that. Her body her choice. She chose to marry the bastard of the man who killed her brother. No one forced her to go in there with no plan at all, swear by the old gods to form a union with the man, and then honor those sacred vows by spreading her legs for him in her father's bed, night after night after night.

Again, she was of age, and she chose that life.

>>217767975
lord Walder Frey would be the best option.
just imagine the kino chapters

>>217767619
How do you get your calves shaped like that?

>>217768021
they were the feminist kingdom. they had to win.
anyway, they have caves with fish no one knows about and they're all extremely loyal so no one snitched about the caves to any invader because they love their feminist laws so much.

>>217768021
>why was Dorne the hardest kingdom to conquer
it wasn't hard to conquer, it was hard to hold, basically they'd all go fremen on your ass and hide in caves in the sands underneath that awful sun, do horrid forms of terror attakcs and torture and send assassins, and they will never turn on each other either, eventually you'd just want to give up

>>217768059
eat clen and tren hard

>>217767935
>Implying that wasn't incredibly kino

Murder all puritanical Gen Z morons

>>217768161
it was disgusting
t. millennial boomer

>>217767146
>>217767167
>>217767983
my wife

>>217766903
Not only that, the armor are SOLID

Cut out the shit scene
Cut out the dick scene
Cut out the prostitutes scenes
Cut out the fingering song dialogue
Cut out alot of the scenes of Lionel being homosexual
Mash it all together into a movie
Boom kino

>>217768189
Life is disgusting, grow up or stop watching R18+ shows

>>217768319
Agreed, this show needed trigger warnings at the very least

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>>217768309
>the armor are SOLID
not really. it only holds up at first glance.

>>217768319
>cut all the good stuff
>make it a chud show for the 11 weirdos who hate women and vibrant diversity

I kind of thought the dick scene was going to play into a larger joke like thats the only reason anyone remembers him but it turned out to just be a random dick joke

>>217768370
oh come off it ser anon, it's stylistic yes but you msut admit it does offer decent protection in comparison to at least most of the armors we have seen from hbo's rapings of the source material

>>217768319
>Cut out alot of the scenes of Lionel being homosexual
where?

>>217768452
it looks like plastic. i don't mind fantasy armors.

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>me two drinks after promising not to discuss politics

>>217768161
don't be a poofter

>>217766983
The only baby at the time had to be Rhaegar, but he wasn't yet born. Unless it didn't have to be a targaryen baby?

>>217767146
/videos/684493/dolly-little-school-girl-fun/ on epawg

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This tree ain't real

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what would Egg think of Hess?

>>217768490
that's cause it's matte

>>217768073
>they will never turn on each other either
Didn't they kill their own ruler though? The sand sisters or some shit?

>>217768319
What about the minorities? Aren't they as egregiously present as I've been led to believe?

>>217766885
>Gets stabbed to death by his father figure and lad who he named a son after.
Don't listen to dragon dreams, let the girls at the feast flirt with you.

>>217766983
Yes they are basing it on basic story development.
What is the most climatic ending to a knight and a squire growing into a Kingsguard and a King?
The betrayal of an oath to the man for the oath of the realm.

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This actually looks good

sansa wasn't raped though. she performed her wifely duties for her lord husband.

>>217768684
Just on the show but theres a fair amount of conniving in the books. I think they just mean that literally anywhere else, like what happened in the Riverlands, you’d just bribe a bunch of ambitious middling lords to side with you by giving them the lands and titles of the upper reaches of the nobility and it defeats the whole “entire society operating as one big underground and abandoning civilization just to fuck with you”.
But for some reason that can’t happen in Dorne just because the dornish are so mysterious and dangerous

>>217767399
If Ep3 didn't sell people on the series, the last scene with the reveal being infront of a large fucking group of people, then they just can't enjoy what KotSK is going for.
I still am annoyed at the GoT theme being played to Dunk shitting and the general crudeness of it all but damn it E3 wasn't great all around.

>>217767299
thats actually one of the few based things about christianity (too bad no practicing christian denomination today actually teaches that or takes it seriously, much like the stuff in 2 Timothy about not letting women tteach or have authority over a man)

>>217768655
then they should have made it shiny instead

>>217768684
that's show shit, but what i mean is that the dornish will never turn on each other when being attacked by a foreign invasion, all their beefs with each other die the moment they see white people trying to conquer them, they will always choose dorne, even their own rivals over a targaryen because at least it's a dornish person

>>217768766
The whole "oh this series isn't about big political things, so therefore defecation" premise is stupid and is an example of Hollywood really shitting on you, the goycattle.
What this series actually needs is an opening crawl that's like a bunch of artistic scenes of peasants or lower class arts and crafts and progressively you get more knight stuff until finally it closes with a perhaps distant image of Egg's coronation or something, which sells the whole theme of this much better.

>>217767938
no they didn't preston, you are just autistic

>>217768790
it would probably look even more like plastic

>>217767399
The music is bad.

>>217768820
>What this series actually needs is an opening crawl
nigga the episodes are like 20 minutes fuck your opening

>>217768820
See I agree with you but I'd hold off on Egg being coordinated until after his reveal happens.
Have the first season opener building up to a squire being knighted, it's illusionary to Dunk become Cpt of the Guard, but then oh shit once we know who Egg is the opener transitions into his coronation before the High Spetium.
It's not as if we have the rest of the books leading to that happening but I'd rather not spoil the future for none book readers.

>>217768882
>oh no, one more minute

>>217768872
the music is pretty good though wdym
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1HiKCwwTzo&list=RDa1HiKCwwTzo&start_radio=1

>>217768884
What I'm saying is at the end you hint at it. You show a bunch of peasant stuff, you show some knight shields, and then finally you get a kingly image and it's this mysterious figure who is of course Egg.
And the show already spoiled it with the fortune teller. Spoiled fucking everything, as if this won't get another season.

>>217768021
Just accept it's the way it went down, that it could have went down another way but it just didn't.
If I keep speculating to understand this stuff I start becoming a schizophrenic /pol/lack trying to dissect how leftist GRRM is or maybe it's due to his 80's libprog memes about Afghanistan being the graveyard of empires or something.
But all of that is bunk, it's just how he wrote it because it had to be written some way. If it was written the other way we'd be asking why they weren't harder to conquer.
Why is Robb 14 years old? There is no rational answer.

>>217768910
Oh I'm following along with your vision of it anon.
In my verison of it it's all shit paper drawn images of shit that happens but shown vague enough, a spider drowning, a lone hero charging an enemy horde, a bald boy kneel with a glowing halo above it, all done in rough paper sketches.

But the show is destined for fourteen seasons as told by IMG or whatever site.

>>217768836
kek

>>217768934
He's 14 because it makes the drugged sex hotter.
What are you a faggot who doesn't actually get what 80's libprog was all about?

>>217768953
>Look Dany, I know you're only 13 but you should probably let one of your tits out. It would be racist not to. You don't want to be a racist, do you?
>O-ok Jorah

>>217768910
they should hire you, lol

>>217768823
preston is a faggot
but you're more of a faggot than preston for defending shit that doesn't make sense.

>>217768963
Don't cum then it's not rape.
Sorry you are worldly enough to not understand this basic concept white hair.

>>217768966
Wtf is 80’s libprog, just hating anything Reagan does?

>>217768811
I can see the Yronwoods betraying the Martells to get their title as the premier house of dorne again

>>217768984
thanks for the (you)

>>217767399
Im mad about how Dunk found Baelor but otherwise its on par with S1 of GOT for me

>>217769233
>zesty Baratheon
no

>>217766983
>kill the boy

>>217768059
You don't skip leg day.

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>>217768625
>wHaT iF rHaEnYs CaMe ThRoUgH tHe FlOoR oN a DrAgOn?!
>wHaT iF rHaEnYrA aNd MySaRiA kIsSeD oUt Of NoWhErE?!
>wHaT iF rHaEnYrA aNd AlLiCeNt MaDe Up AnD rAn OfF tO eSsOs?!

>>217768021
>Can someone explain to me, why was Dorne the hardest kingdom to conquer?
They are Afghanistan

do people still think egg has cancer or do they finally understand?

>>217769339
yeah but im confused, i didn't think targaryens could get cancer

>>217769359
must be from huffing those volcanic fumes on dragonstone

>>217769359
kek

>>217769339
He's young Varys bro. It's just subterfuge.

>>217769339
Egg is a skinhead. He just doesn't like 'em Black(fyre) folk.

>>217769359
>>217769386

It's true though. I've read FaB like 5 times at least I couldn't name any Targ who died from other reasons besides old age. giving birth or accident or in battle.

>>217766790
IS IT DUNKDAY YET
FUCK
WHY DID THEY HAVE TO MAKE A GOOD SHOW

>>217768021
they aren't timmycels but real men

>>217768021
They are like Dune Fremen or Afghani Taliban. When invaded they hide in secret hideouts in the desert. They never even show up for battle.

The Westerosi marched in, found the cities empty, took up shop in the castles and set up local governors. When the armies marched back north, the governors and their guards all got murdered by assassins and you were back to square one.

The only thing that really hurt them were the Aegon I dragon attacks. He straight up nuked some cities, but that was also abandoned when the Dornish shot down one of his dragons (and his sister-wife).

>>217769339
people get so upset when I keep telling them he has cancer, that's its a big part of the plot they're missing

>>217767203
Seemed realistic given how many dynasties at least in the male line ended up going extinct like with the Karlings, Cerdicings, Merovingians and House of Normandy to name a few. Sometime people just die.

Is it kino?

>>217769868
dunk?
only kino they've shat out in over a decade
comfy kino, bring some cider

>>217769868
It's good so far. Too early to tell if it's kino.

>>217769741
Aerys I???

>>217769868
no. it's better than hotd but still worse than season 1 GoT. maybe it's season 4 equivalent because a key scene so far doesn't make sense in the show so far like Asha goung to the Dreadfort.

>>217769868
Pretty good so far, it's kinda like a Knights Tale. They'll probably fuck it up while adapting the other novellas but that'll be next season.

>>217769896
>a key scene so far doesn't make sense in the show so far
Okay, I bite. Which one?

>>217768500
>"now let me tell you about the maesters Duncan"

>>217769947
The one where they’re eating breakfast sandwiches of course

>>217769868
so far yes but we are nearing the middle/end so jury is still out

>>217769891
Oh forgot about him, I thought he died by natural means. So he's the first Targ death who died from illness or we're counting supernatural ones like that one daughter whose dragon went to Valyria and came back with a bad case of worms or something.

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>>217769359
Magic cancer

>>217769998
Aerys I's death was a mystery (bloodraven poisoned him)

valarr and jaeharys II died of fevers

>>217770017
>valarr and jaeherys

At the risk of sounding like a BFS, can we chalk this to their inferior Dornish genes.

>Dunk
>Egg
>Lyonel
>Baelor
>Raymun
>Plummer
>Steely Pate
>Gwin
>the two prostitutes
>the stable boy in episode 1
Why are there so many likable characters in this show, even the unnamed ones?

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This is an indigenous African man btw

>>217770096
>>the stable boy in episode 1
does he know?

>>217770096
the innkeeper sidelining as a seer is pretty chill desu

>>217770109
?

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>>217770057
>can we chalk this to their inferior Dornish genes.
i concur

>>217770113
the inkeeper is bloodraven

The innkeeper is Varys

>>217770143
the tip of my penis is inside your anus

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so sick of carrying this house

>>217769868
It's okay. People always get caught up in the excitement and hype up shows more than they deserve when they're new.

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>>217767146

Sorry, you're too late.

>>217767938
>they ruined several key scenes so far

Agreed, not to mention filming most of it in the dark.

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>>217767637
>was never conquered

Gurm is a dumbass.

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>>217767856

Still too late.

>>217769947
meeting Baelor and adding all the Baratheon show only scenes.
in the book, he goes to tell plummer, who is expecting him, that the Dondarion lord won't vouch for him and stumbles on the Targaryens without realizing who they are and particularly doesn't recognize Baelor until the very end so he kneels and stumbles.
in the show, he sees them riding into the castle and deliberately chases after them and sneaks in. plummer is not expecting him so it's retarded that they kept the lifted dialogue from the book without change. especially having Baelor saying they are the intruders.
>It came to Dunk that he had walked in on something that he ought never have heard. I had best go and come back later, when they are done, he decided. But it was already too late. The prince with the silvery beard suddenly took note of him. “Who are you, and what do you mean by bursting in on us?” he demanded harshly. “He is the knight that our good steward was expecting,” the seated man said, smiling at Dunk in a way that suggested he had been aware of him all the time. “You and I are the intruders here, brother. Come closer, ser.” Dunk edged forward, uncertain what was expected of him. He looked at Plummer, but got no help there. The pinch-faced steward who had been so forceful yesterday now stood silent, studying the stones of the floor. “My lords,” he said, “I asked Ser Manfred Dondarrion to vouch for me so I might enter the lists, but he refuses. He says he knows me not. Ser Arlan served him, though, I swear it. I have his sword and shield, I—” “A shield and a sword do not make a knight,” declared Lord Ashford, a big bald man with a round red face. “Plummer has spoken to me of you. Even if we accept that these arms belonged to this Ser Arlan of Pennytree, it may well be that you found him dead and stole them. Unless you have some better proof of what you say, some writing or—” “I remember Ser Arlan of Pennytree,” the man in the high seat said quietly.

>>217770109
that's the joke

>>217770295
Seems kinda minor to be honest familia.

>>217770295
This is such a fucking nitpick if we compare this mistake to anything in hotd or game of thrones Jesus christ

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>>217770273
>>Gurm is a dumbass.

>>217770295
Thats really not impactful at all

>>217770295
>“He never won a tourney that I know, but he never shamed himself either. At King’s Landing sixteen years ago, he overthrew Lord Stokeworth and the Bastard of Harrenhal in the melee, and many years before at Lannisport he unhorsed the Grey Lion himself. The lion was not so grey then, to be sure.” “He told me about that, many a time,” said Dunk. The tall man studied him. “Then you will remember the Grey Lion’s true name, I have no doubt.” For a moment there was nothing in Dunk’s head at all. A thousand times the old man had told that tale, a thousand times, the lion, the lion, his name, his name, his name . . . He was near despair when suddenly, it came. “Ser Damon Lannister!” he shouted. “The Grey Lion! He’s Lord of Casterly Rock now.” “So he is,” said the tall man pleasantly, “and he enters the lists on the morrow.” He rattled the sheaf of papers in his hand. “How can you possibly remember some insignificant hedge knight who chanced to unhorse Damon Lannister sixteen years ago?” said the prince with the silver beard, frowning. “I make it a practice to learn all I can of my foes.” “Why would you deign to joust with a hedge knight?” “It was nine years past, at Storm’s End. Lord Baratheon held a hastilude to celebrate the birth of a grandson. The lots made Ser Arlan my opponent in the first tilt. We broke four lances before I finally unhorsed him. “Seven,” insisted Dunk, “and that was against the Prince of Dragonstone!” No sooner were the words out than he wanted them back. Dunk the lunk, thick as a castle wall, he could hear the old man chiding. “So it was.” The prince with the broken nose smiled gently. “Tales grow in the telling, I know. Do not think ill of your old master, but it was four lances only, I fear.” Dunk was grateful that the hall was dim; he knew his ears were red. “My lord.” No, that’s wrong too. “Your Grace.” He fell to his knees and lowered his head. “As you say, four, I meant no . . . I never . . . The old man, Ser Arlan, he

>>217770367
>“My lord.” No, that’s wrong too. “Your Grace.” He fell to his knees and lowered his head. “As you say, four, I meant no . . . I never . . . The old man, Ser Arlan, he used to say I was thick as a castle wall and slow as an aurochs.” “And strong as an aurochs, by the look of you,” said Baelor Breakspear. “No harm was done, ser. Rise.” Dunk got to his feet, wondering if he should keep his head down or if he was allowed to look a prince in the face. I am speaking with Baelor Targaryen, Prince of Dragonstone, Hand of the King, and heir apparent to the Iron Throne of Aegon the Conqueror. What could a hedge knight dare say to such a person? “Y-you gave him back his horse and armor and took no ransom, I remember,” he stammered. “The old—Ser Arlan, he told me you were the soul of chivalry, and that one day the Seven Kingdoms would be safe in your hands.” “Not for many a year still, I pray,” Prince Baelor said. “No,” said Dunk, horrified. He almost said, I didn’t mean that the king should die, but stopped himself in time. “I am sorry, m’lord. Your Grace, I mean.” Belatedly he recalled that the stocky man with the silver beard had addressed Prince Baelor as brother. He is blood of the dragon as well, damn me for a fool. He could only be Prince Maekar, the youngest of King Daeron’s four sons. Prince Aerys was bookish and Prince Rhaegel mad, meek, and sickly. Neither was like to cross half the realm to attend a tourney, but Maekar was said to be a redoubtable warrior in his own right, though ever in the shadow of his eldest brother.

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>>217770341
>whole dialogue scene when meeting the next king not making sense in-show is minor
Baelor is shown to be retarded.
Dunk is shown as a conniving schemer instead of an oaf.
>>217770359
no u

>>217770295
I get where you are coming from, but delaying the reveal of who the Targaryens are is a pointless non-mystery. It works for books because of limited perspectives and non-omniscient POVs, but you can't do that in a visual medium. Or if you do, the audience is going to either figure it out immediately and wonder why Dunk doesn't get it, or they won't figure it out and wonder who the fuck these people are and why they should care.
TV audiences are dumb, and this is a case where cutting to the chase works better.

>>217770481
you're missing the point. they should've changed the dialogue too. i don't mind the show and the book being different.

>>217768625
Half a horse

Ooo, grape salsa is a sleeper hit —sweet, tangy, a little savory. Here’s a super fresh, crowd-pleasing version you can tweak easily.

Fresh Grape Salsa
Ingredients

2 cups red or black seedless grapes, finely chopped

¼ cup red onion, very finely diced

1 small jalapeño, minced (remove seeds for less heat)

¼ cup fresh cilantro, chopped (optional but great)

Zest of 1 lime

2–3 tbsp fresh lime juice

1–2 tbsp olive oil

Salt to taste

Freshly ground black pepper, to taste

Optional add-ins (pick your vibe)

1 tbsp honey or agave (if your grapes aren’t super sweet)

¼ cup diced cucumber for extra crunch

2 tbsp crumbled feta or queso fresco for a savory twist

A pinch of chili powder or Tajín for a Mexican-style kick

Instructions

Chop the grapes finely—smaller pieces = better salsa texture.

In a bowl, mix grapes, red onion, jalapeño, and cilantro.

Add lime zest, lime juice, olive oil, salt, and pepper.

Taste and adjust: more lime for tang, salt for balance, honey for sweetness.

Chill for 15–30 minutes to let the flavors mingle.

How to serve it

With cinnamon sugar tortilla chips

On grilled chicken or fish

Over pork tacos

As a topper for cream cheese + crackers

If you want, I can give you a spicy version, a fruitier dessert-style salsa, or one that pairs perfectly with seafood.

>>217770666
Satanic

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Not all changes from the books are bad

>>217770666
thanks satan

>>217770751
tyrion being a drunken fool is good

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>>217770438
I agree that this scene made Dunk more proactive when he shouldn't but it really doesn't put the show on S4 tier, it's still S1 tier in terms of faithfulness. You niggas and especially pr*ston are overblowing this shit.

>>217770751
disgusting art desu senpai

>>217770751
where is this from

>>217768786
>(too bad no practicing christian denomination today actually teaches that or takes it seriously, much like the stuff in 2 Timothy about not letting women tteach or have authority over a man)
You unfamiliar with the christcuck debatelord scene? There are definitely denominations that preach that

>>217770796
The graphic novels.

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>>217770796
Graphic novels by Dynamite

>>217770904
did the artist want me to jerk off?

>>217770916
Catelyn is fucking hot and young and naked in those graphic novels btw