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Looks like Wizard of Oz aesthetics desu

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Daella or Rhae?
Choose wisely Egg.

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Behold Highgarden, the seat of the house Tyrell, wardens of the Reach!!!

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>>219541871

>>219542186
>>219541871
>casually allows a forrest to grow next to and up to the walls
are they retarded?

>>219541352
Why did they make my nigga Mace such a drooling retard in the show

>>219542306
Mace demanded to be able to reach out and pluck delicious apples from any window

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The thread is buzzing, your grace. Truly, a hive of activity.

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>>219541355
Rhae, Dunk already creamed Daella.

>>219542186
>Tarlys have bigger castle than their liege
The apathy from the showrunners after the red wedding just got worse and worse each season.

I want to take Gurm to the taiga and tundra, and ask him how the hell an agrarian society is supposed to survive ten years of winter there.

>>219544217
In a way, I can't blame them. Just as George is tired of what his story has become after the third book, any showrunner would grow tired of what the show became after the first season or two. ASoIaF simply cannot be adapted properly, and the attempt never should've been made. Not to excuse those retards, but even an intelligent duo would've cut quite a few corners.

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Jonsafags we won

>>219544573
Now that we know the ending; hearing what Jon and Sansa would have to say to one another is really high on my list of what i actually want to see but never will

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>>219544725
>>219544725
>Jon i haven't seen you so long ago. Can we make babies now ?

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>>219544573

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Oh no! Jon Snow fell off his horse while on a hunt with Robb and Theon!

Maester Lewin had to put both his arms in casts while they heal. By the old gods and the new, how will Jon take care of himself for the next several months?

>>219545553
Someones electric bill went up $200/month so we have the capacity to make these things

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>>219545678
I know, it's great

>>219545678
I will dry the Indian Ocean in exchange for AI porn video of Jon and Catelyn having sex

>>219545820
We know Sanjay. We know
Sadly

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>>219541231
egg is icsh

>>219545553
>>219545811
Cool pics, Rajesh!

>>219546791
That's not what icsh means tho

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Dany is icsh

>>219547314
it is what icsh means

>>219547341
that's not what icsh means tho

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i wish they didn't recast her when the 90% of the cast didn't get recast

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>>219547969
Tranny doesn't even look 15 years older than Monke even though she's supposed to be.
They just wanted to virtue signal like with the Blackaryons, and she probably sucked some kikess' clit.

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Old Nan is icsh

>>219548146
Which tranny? I think she was in only 1 episode

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Traennyra

>>219548232
that's very far from what icsh means tho

>>219548360
>I'm really good at playing women for some reason

If you want to see the google AI be confidently wrong and hallucinate pure nonsense you can ask it: What does "icsh" mean on 4chan?"

Crazy to think that normies trust that garbage for anything.

If you write "pedophile 4chan" it shuts you down though kek.

If you were an ironborn lad would you take a greenlander as a rock wife or another ironborn girl?

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>You've been tampering with my peace, /got/

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How do you go from
>I will do anything to protect and secure my kids future and position
to
>I will open the gates and please fucking kill my stupid chud children please

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>>219550010

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>>219550010
Molestation always mindbreaks people

>>219549184
Rock wife HAS to be ironborn. She has to give salty milk to your babies so they grow up like proper men.

>>219550093
But the greenlander lady is a Blackfyre

>>219550010
Aegon and aemond bad, showrunner want you like alicent, she want kill bad kids, therefore you like alicent now right !?

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>>219550010
Sara Hess that's why

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Why did he agree to this? It sounds like it would be humiliating to play a character supposed to be female but everyone calls "him".
It was embarrassing to watch anyway

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>>219550093
how can ironborn exist? saltwater rusts iron. prat whore!

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i would simp for Aemma Arryn too

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>>219541231
TAOOBA!

>>219552090
That's Aerea though, she got brat corrected by Balerion.

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My GOD fuck this scene

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>>219553870
Literally me

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>>219552393
Baby Maekar is seething
>>219552090
fixed

>>219550664
maario naharis?

>>219554246
Ohhh, they didnt do the eye thing because it looks like a cheap Dune rip off

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>>219553870
>>219554195

>>219555031
daeron's a cunt talking that way to his stepdad

>>219550664
Because transsexuals are porn-addicted narcissists. As long as they can insert themselves and get attention, they're happy.

>>219547341
>In reality Medieval girls would marry around the age of 17-18. Retarded writers like GRRM took what was happening only among royalty - in order to avoid a succession crisis, and even then they weren't THAT young - and applied it to entire societies they create.

>>219555451
>took what was happening only among royalty
the post you're responding to is about a queen who's married to notGenghis Khan

>>219555830
>who's married to notGenghis Khan

Exactly, so he wouldn't be operating under a Medieval European mentality. He'd have a harem of wives and concubines, having as many children as he wants with whom he wants, and it's his own fucking business who will succeed him, whether that be a son with a 13-year-old princess or one he sired with his 40-yead-old servant,.

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>>219553767
THAT'S TAOOBA!

>>219549184
I hate the concept of the ironborn.

>>219558840
Ditto. If we get isekai'd let's genocide them together.

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>>219558840
>>219559297
ironborn is a stupid name for a seafaring culture. saltwater rusts iron and if their ships are made of iron they would sink.

>>219559705
I think calling it the iron fleet is symbolic, the ships are probably made of wood.

>>219558840
>>219559297
>I hate fun

>>219560027
No I just hate the ironborn

If the targs had burned the Iron Islands and all it's inhabitants into molten slag I would've forgiven them for literally everything else.

>>219552090
she doesn't have Valyrian hair in the books

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In the first book, what's the significance of the "who will foster Robert Arryn" subplot?

It's like a mini mystery of if he'll go to Stannis or Tywin but then it kind of ends up going nowhere.

Is it a first bookism like House Dayne and Jamie being Warden of the East?

>>219560341
If the targs didn't burn the iron islands and all its inhabitants into molten slag I would continuously rebel against the throne until they do.

>>219560436
BASED

>>219560434
Stannis is the obvious choice. Everyone hates Tywin, the only reason you would do that is if you want everyone to hate your child/house also. Very boomer coded but not realistic for feudal houses who actually cared about their children's future.

>>219560434
>>219561206
>letting Stannis raise your kid
who the fuck would do that

>>219561257
A great military commander, competent ruler of the Stormlands while Boberto is away being a shithouse king, just generally an all-round staunch cunt admired by basically everyone who meets him. Yeah why would you want your son to be like that?

Just send him with someone who can also teach him how to be convivial and you basically have a superhuman factory.

>>219561427
>always sulking
>bitter
>incompetent
>possibly gay (avoids sex)
>autistic

Would YOU let your son around him?

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>>219561427

>>219561551
The positives outweigh the negatives.

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What kingdom would best fit a house with a wolverine sigil?

>>219561764
The north

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do the rivers of the Trident start at the bay of crabs and flow west and north, or do they flow east and south to empty in the bay of crabs?

>>219561764
probably the reach

>>219561967
The rivers of the Trident—the Green, Blue, and Red Forks—flow east and south to empty into the Bay of Crabs.
The system originates from the north and west and moves toward the eastern coast:

Green Fork: Originates in the swamps of the Neck (far north of the riverlands) and flows south-east.
Blue Fork: Rises in the hills near Seagard (northwest) and flows southeast.
Red Fork: Begins in the hills of the Westerlands (west) and flows northeast, then east.

These three branches join together west of Lord Harroway's Town and the Crossroads, forming the main body of the Trident, which continues east to empty into the Bay of Crabs, near Saltpans and the Quiet Isle.

>>219562007
how easy/difficult is it to row or sail a boat up the three main forks? since the ironborn ruled the trident by rowing their longships

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>insanely stupid question anyone with a brain could intuit the answer to immediately answered by ChatGPT
give me something for the pain and let me die

>>219562977
what?

>>219562977
ChatGPT frequently answers questions that have intuitive, obvious, or "silly" answers, often providing a perfectly straight, logical, or sometimes humorous response.

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>>219562977
you are hereby ordered to copy/paste my question into chatgpt, and then to copy/paste the answer into this thread so i may peruse it at my leisure

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>be woman
>other woman touches your boob non-sexually
>burst out laughing

women are weird, bros...

>>219563822
She just got a little excited thinking it was time for sex lessons again

>>219564069
SWORD

>>219564000
Does she cum during the sex lessons?

>>219564104
No, women don't cum from sex only from stealing a man's lands and income from them through divorce. Or starting a fight at burger king and watching their boyfriend get stomped by ten dudes, that also brings them to orgasm.

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where are the alligators

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I'm going to go to the grocery store and try some of this tomorrow. Buttered turnips sound interesting, not so sure about the sweet carrots though.

>>219565764
It's incredible at how good George is at describing food and sex

>>219566452
Gurm writes about food in the way Tolkien writes about landscapes; you can feel the deeply nostalgic, wistful longing rising from the pages, as if the author's heart is breaking because he's not there.

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>>219546791
luke is icsh

>>219566749
What about the sex

>>219566844
egg is icsh

>>219566452
Food I get since he's a fat cunt but how does a guy who can't see his own dick write about sex? Think he watches a lot of porn?

>>219565764
The stuffed chicken sounds pretty great. Although I've never eaten a chestnut.

>>219567085
eslikemeolfatherusedtasay
Chestnuts are bestnuts, almons for farmers

>>219560434
This is a set up for the reveal that Lysa is the one who murdered Jon Arryn, not the Lannisters. Catelyn at first gets the information that Robert was to be fostered by Tywin after Arryn's death, and Lysa escaped KL because she wanted to prevent it.
But then various characters mention that the plan was to actually send him to Dragonstone, to be fostered by Stannis, and that this plan was made BEFORE Arryn died. Catelyn is smart enough to realize something is wrong, but not enough to understand what exactly - That Lysa is the one who gained the most from Jon's death. She killed Arryn to prevent sending her son to Dragonstone, and then fled from the capital so he would not be send to Tywin... or anywhere else.
Gurm likes to plant such early "plot seeds" and then grow from them.

>>219560434
Pretty sure the reality of it is that Jon wanted him to go to Stannis and his mother lies and says her son is being sent as a hostage to Tywin.
As far as I know it's only Lysa that ever mentions her son being sent to Tywin and it's because she's insane and just making shit up as she goes along just like her switching to Tyrion being behind the murder of Jon despite her saying it was Cercei in her letter.

>>219567847
No, she does not lie (at least about that), Robert tells that to Ned ealier in the book that he planned to send the kid to Tywin, and Ned is like "Well, that explains why she run away, she thinks Lannisters killed her husband and now you want to send her son to them." This was AFTER Arryn is already dead. Before Jon died, he wanted to send him to Stannis, which does not fit Lysa's actions. Yeah, she is insane, but that plot is meant to subtly alert reader that there's more to it than it would seem at first glance.

>>219568544
Either way it's that everyone in power agreed that separating Lysa from Sweet Robin would be good for the him and that's shattering enough for Lysa to agree to anything Littlefinger suggests.
Probably was an offscreen ongoing conversation between Robert and Jon of where to send him, Robert would've been bullied to again placate the Lannisters

Why did jon arryn always bitch out to the lannisters? Was he a spy of some sort or just a retard

>>219566995
yes. very.

>>219568990
And who are you…

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>>219570003
I'm the Dude

>>219570003
I'm him

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>>219545678
That's not the problem here. The problem is that they aren't making Monke slop

I am disturbed by the fact that Gurm seems to think rams were effective weapons against ships in the Middle Ages and that trebuchets could do serious damage against castle walls.

>>219571604
I'm disturbed by the fact every boat has like 50 oarsman. Do they row all day? What is their life like? Where do they come from? Literally unreadable until he explains this

>>219571659
they are thralls, if they stop rowing they die
but dont worry they definitely arent slaves

>>219563522
If we’re talking pure chaos—no armies, no strategy, just a parking-lot brawl outside Walmart—the War of the Five Kings turns into a very different game.

The five “kings” are:

Joffrey Baratheon
Stannis Baratheon
Renly Baratheon
Robb Stark
Balon Greyjoy
Immediate eliminations
Joffrey: Let’s be honest—he’s out in about 3 seconds. Zero combat skill, panics instantly.
Balon Greyjoy: Old, brittle, and not really a frontline fighter even in his prime. He’s not lasting long in a fistfight.
The real contenders

Renly Baratheon
Big, strong, charismatic—and actually trained. People forget he’s physically imposing and athletic. In a casual brawl, he’s a serious threat.

Robb Stark
Young, fast, trained from childhood. Not the biggest, but he’s disciplined and used to real combat. Probably the most balanced fighter here.

Stannis Baratheon
Not flashy, not especially fast—but tough, relentless, and experienced. The kind of guy who just keeps getting back up and grinding you down.

Who wins?

In a messy Walmart parking lot fight?

Robb Stark likely takes it.

He has the best mix of:

Actual combat experience
Speed and endurance
Killer instinct without hesitation

Runner-up: Renly—stronger physically, but probably less hardened in real combat.
Dark horse: Stannis—if it turns into a long, brutal slugfest, he could outlast everyone out of sheer stubbornness.

Final ranking (parking-lot rules)
Robb Stark
Renly Baratheon
Stannis Baratheon
Balon Greyjoy
Joffrey Baratheon

If you add weapons or armor, though? That could swing things—Stannis especially becomes a lot scarier.

>>219571881
If we’re doing a Queen of the chaos Walmart parking lot brawl, the main contenders from A Song of Ice and Fire are:

Cersei Lannister
Daenerys Targaryen
Margaery Tyrell
Selyse Baratheon
(You could also stretch it to Yara Greyjoy, who isn’t a crowned queen but absolutely fights like one.)
First ones out
Selyse Baratheon: Not built for fighting—she’s out almost immediately.
Cersei Lannister: Zero combat ability. She thinks she’d win, which honestly makes it worse—she’d get dropped fast.
Middle tier

Margaery Tyrell
She’s athletic, rides, hunts, and is in good shape—but she’s not really a fighter. She might hold her own briefly, but she’s not winning.

Daenerys Targaryen
This depends a lot:

No dragons allowed (true Walmart rules): She’s tougher than she looks, but not trained. She lasts longer than Cersei, but loses to actual fighters.
If dragons are allowed: It’s not even a fight—it’s a war crime in aisle 7.
The clear winner

Yara Greyjoy takes it.

Raised as an ironborn raider
Experienced in real combat
Physically strong, aggressive, and ruthless
Completely at home in chaotic, dirty fighting

She’s basically the only one here who’s used to brawling and winning.

Final ranking (no dragons, no weapons)
Yara Greyjoy
Margaery Tyrell
Daenerys Targaryen
Cersei Lannister
Selyse Baratheon
Bonus note

If you expanded beyond “queens,” someone like Brienne of Tarth would absolutely demolish everyone here—including most of the kings too.

did Viserys/Alicent son Daeron completely cut from HotD? I dont remember him at all

>>219572032
Daeron will spawn from nowhere in S3 with his dragon Tessarion and fight for the Greens

>>219571604
>rams were effective weapons against ships
depends heavily on ship design, but considering they never got around to developing any kind of gun powder or canons, that should still leave them in the tech period where just crashing your ship into a smaller ship is the highest damage output you can do. It's not like that small ship can do any amount of surprise suckerpunch if you get too close, and put holes in your hull. It's just a small bitch boat.

>trebuchets could do serious damage against castle walls
trebuchets CAN do serious damage against most castle walls. It's a simple matter of physics. If you just keep smashing massive stones against a wall built of much smaller stones, eventually the smaller stones will stop being neatly stacked, and then the wall gives out. I will say tho, the castles built by Bran the Builder have magic hax, so they can probably withstand much more damage than standard castles

>>219572332
>not like that small ship can do any amount of surprise suckerpunch if you get too close
What about wildfire

>>219572332
Rams being effective implies all the ships in Westeros still use mortise and tenon construction, and they haven't figured out what a keel is despite being living in an era of plate armor. Ship size isn't necessarily a factor, Roman rams weren't even effective against Celts in northern waters.

>>219550010

What would you have her do?

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>>219561257
>>letting Stannis raise your kid
>who the fuck would do that

Sweetrobin is a tard, he needs a boot to the ass.

>>219541871
The top would be good enough for me to raise bastards and sons and see them pile up, ngl

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>>219565764

>>219545811
Think they would be friends or no

>>219573800
>Meereen food isn't dog
Literally unreadable.

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>>219568990
>Why did jon arryn always bitch out to the lannisters? Was he a spy of some sort or just a retard

Jon Arryn had been the leader of the Southron Ambitionists and had expected to become "prime minister" when they forced a constitutional monarchy on Rhaegar but the reality is that he was a shitty administrator and politician.

>>219555031
I liked him again after this

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>>219571604

Rams and trebuchets were effective weapons in the Middle Ages.

>>219571881
>Robb Stark likely takes it.
>He has the best mix of:
>Actual combat experience

Where did he acquire this "combat" experience?

>>219573988
Beating Jon and Theon up.

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But why would he have been a good king? Blackfyrefags say he would but not why.

Lots of weird chatgpt posts in here lately

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>>219573999

Renly was beating up all kinda sparring partners and had been doing it for longer and he was bigger and stronger.

>>219574067
He is a good man, therefore he would be a good king.
Simple as.

>>219553870
>Went from hating bastards to just bring a simp

>>219574100
>Had to be peer pressured into rebelling by Bittersteel and Fireball
No, he would have been a puppet.

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>>219574067

Gurm is a baby boomer, so any skilled military commander is a baddy or at least barely competent, only nerds can be good kings in his world view.

That said, there's no mention of Daemon Blackfyre being particularly intelligent or capable as an administrator, just that he was a badass warrior.

>>219574347
At least he wouldn't be a puppet of an albino kinslaying freak.

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What of the Kingsguard?

>>219574458
Better then being a mad incel sad the whore picked chad over him

I don't know if it would be funnier if Griff was a blackfyre or the golden company in just a hundred years stopped giving a shit about Bittersteels goal and just want to go home.

>>219574067
He kissed his corrupted father's ass to earn his favor so no
>>219574100
>launching a rebellion that tore the realm in half simply because you could never get over being a bastard makes you a good man

>>219575294
On this board Aegon IV is the truest king we've ever had. If you don't like that, leave.

>>219575294
He was mad he got cucked out of his half sister and then Bittercuck and Fireball kept talking him into it.

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>>219566844
season 1 bran is icsh

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>>219574392
>only nerds can be good kings in his world view
not true

Why were people so mad about Dorne joining in the way they did? They couldn't conquer them with dragons, they sure as fuck wouldn't conquer them without.

>>219575572
Jaehaerys was pretty nerdy though and more remembered for his statecraft then martial prowess. He was just a nerd who hit the gym as well.

Is bookdany already too much of a slut to our boy jon ??

>>219575601
They were mad that Daeron filled his court with Dornishmen.
>>219575294
It never made sense to me how Daemon managed to make half the realm rally behind him without being backed by a single great house or having an actual claim to the throne

>>219575549
Since they apparently both into each other, were Daemon and Daenerys fine with their spouses, Daenerys with her Dornish prince and Daemon with Rohanne?

>>219575759
Probably an exaggeration it was half. For sure most of them were just major bannermen with significant armies, for power grabs or ones close to the Dornish border pissed.

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Why are they so based

>>219575549
>Eight years after she got married he rebelled
I don't think it was her.

>>219574067
he was a great fighter but a good man as well, and charismatic, a rare combination from the house of the dragon, who inspired knights and lords to follow him into a retarded suicide mission primarily from that, he was alot like Robert Baratheon only he got over his oneitis, he was also alot like Ned (being an honortard), with the right advisors i'm sure he would've been at least competent, that being said Daeron was just better suited for statecraft and politics in every way, though Daemon wasn't a retard or the dumb warrior stereotype, Daemon B would've been the Maekar to Daeron's Baelor, competent replacement but not great.

>>219575549
>He was mad he got cucked out of his half sister
he got over Daenerys, and she got over him, that tyroshi pussy had him breeding her every year and she gave the man 9 sons and never died, that pussy was the jackpot

>>219552393
oh so that's how rhaegal went mad

>>219575925
It was a combination of many different things over the years, him being bestowed blackfyre, being cucked out of daenerys, aegon and his lickspittle kept hyping him up, bittersneed and fireball whispering sweet things into his ear for a decade, insecurities over his bastard birth, feeling slighted by daeron because he wasn't treated like a targ prince, etc and bloodraven attempted arrest was the last straw that made him give into his ambitions and launch the rebellion.
He was probably not on good terms with bloodraven either but the blackcuck fans insist that daemon was the brother that bloodraven loved because muh human heart must always be in conflict with itself

Who's got the worst trial by seven team?
>Quinn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCIWy3Mkumw
>Constantine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzAGPn9Rnn8&list=LL&index=9&t=26s
>fantasy haven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHQQQ4i3Arw&list=LL&index=8&t=6s

>>219576306
>Old fools and young malcontents still make pilgrimages to the Redgrass Field to plant flowers on the spot where Daemon Blackfyre fell. I will not suffer Whitewalls to become another monument to the Black Dragon.
Absolutely everything in the series pointed towards bloodraven and daemon not liking each other

james gandolfini would've been a good aegon IV

>>219576419
i love this line because Bloodraven both slights Daemon, not wanting people to idolize him but also still calls him a dragon

>>219576306
>>219576419
i mean would you be surprised if Martin has it in his head that Daemon and Brynden were once close? Martin hasn't written it down but he does have lots of ideas in his head when it comes to the family dynamics of that era, for example according to Martin, Aegon IV isn't like Tywin, in regards to Daeron II he truly believes he is not his son, it's not some spitefilled rage bait. The signs that tell us Brynden didn't like Daemon all come from after Daemon's death, we know nothing of what they were like before the conflict, and with tree magic and future sight you can come up with a bunc of reasons why Brynden might've needed to steel himself from feeling anything towards Daemon

>>219576462
It's a neutral epithet, even traitors get to keep theirs like how the lannisters sometimes refer to robb as the young wolf or roger rayne as the red lion

>>219576550
i believe it's more personal than that, i don't think any Targaryen would be ok with a traitor using the moniker of Dragon, there was a modicum of respect and the family had mized feelings on the whole conflict, Baelor wanted to grant them amnesty, not just to prevent future rebellions but because he had respect and probably was good friends with Daemon growing up

>>219576549
There's not a single mention of bloodraven-daemon relationship before the rebellion. AWOIAF was released years after ADWD so GRRM had every opportunity to include some bs like "it was rumored that in their early years they got along well" to give hints towards their kinship like he always did but there's absolutely nothing of this kind about daemon and bloodraven.
Also source for that GRRM's piece about aegon?

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everytime i come to this thread and read all the head canon and speculation it just gets me mad grrm will never give us anything from this generation

>>219576701
tbf we don't get anything on the relationships between the great bastards and daeron's sons, i imagine he wanted to save that stuff for blood and fire

>>219576751
Write your own fanfic then

Did any lord like baelor the blessed aside from the ones who had ties with and benefited from the faith like the hightowers?

>>219577520
the poor liked him, Daena fucking hated him, or really liked him

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....semoc eH

>>219553767
>>219578413
Good memes

>>219575555
>>219546791
Retarded memes

>>219575294
>He kissed his corrupted father's ass
He kissed the corrupted king's ass. Aegon wasn't even his father, fatass just recognized Daemon to piss off Daeron cause he opposed all his retarded ideas.

>>219580071
>Aegon wasn't even his father
Who was it then? Baelor? A ghost that broke into Daena's vault?

>>219580148
Baelor or anyone really. Daena never said who it was out of fear when Viserys' took power after Baelor died, why would she be afraid of the child's grandfather if it was truly Aegon's son?

>>219567829
>>219567847
Why would Jon want Stannis raising his son?

>>219564342
lizard lion

>>219573883
lmao that's not accurate, he was very capable, just not perfect. He was a good leader in the face of (((Targ))) exceptionalism/insanity; Jon Arryn pulled off something that no one had ever pulled off in three hundred years: a successful rebellion against the Targaryean monarchy. Despite losing Rickard and Brandon Stark, which potentially eliminated the Tully alliance, and despite having to wage a war on three fronts and against their own vassals, Arryn held together an alliance that conquered the loyalists areas of the Stormlands, saw off the armies of four separate Hands, reforged an alliance with House Tully, and then took the Throne. Once the war was over, Arryn successfully reintegrated the Lannisters and Dorne into the Seven Kingdoms, and served as Hand for fourteen years, longer than any Hand in living memory other than Tywin Lannister.

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>>219578413
!on ,on ,oN

>>219572032
Isn’t he the one she has a conversation with her brother about? They say hes fostering at oldtown

How is sworn sword supposed to work as a show? Most of the story is exposition dumping, then dunk fights at the end

>>219583265
How are people still asking this question?

>>219583265
The first season is like 1/3 flashbacks, I'm sure they can manage more

>>219542186
Horn hill is better high garden base lol

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>>219560434
I found an interesting third book-ism, or maybe it's more of a show-only issue
In A Storm of Swords, Dany tells Jorah that she taught her dragons "dracarys" as a command for them to breath fire, after the High Valyrian word. But then during HOTD, every Targaryen alive says dracarys as their dragon word. Surely this would've been knowledge Dany was taught by her brother, and not something she made up?

>>219581757
Has someone tried replacing all the black Velaryons with lore accurate Valyrian-looking people using AI?

>>219580715
Kek

>>219585195
Someone in India will surely have done this, yes

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>>219585195
Just Valyrian Steely Pate

>>219585174
Yeah I remember that its the scene where she’s naked in her cabin with Jorah and is surprised when she kisses him. I guess its not an inconsistency until HotD since she says she chose it because it was not something anybody was likely to say accidentally meaning she arrived at it independently

>>219581757
dey fly now!?

>>219577174
I can't wait for season 2 of Dunk in 2030

>>219586527
Isn't it next year?

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>>219553870
twitter fags are right. this guy has an insane targaryen face card. could see him playing one of the big ones easily

>>219586582
he should've played daeron from the start

why are green council meetings so kino vs. black council meetings which are utter dogshit?

>>219573822
Cersei is not capable of read friendship

>>219573822
Yes they are both into lesbian stuff and Cersei thinks Targs are sexy

What would be the funniest marriage pact Tywin could sell Cersei into?

>>219588067
Mance Rayder. Cersei among wildlings would be hilarious.

>>219588067
Danaerys to secure the dragons

What the fuck was the point of the Grejoy rebellion? No, wait actually: what the fuck is the point of the Grejoys anyway? They're just super cringy edgelords. Definitely my least favorite house.

>>219588178
George wanted a pirate house

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>>219588067

>>219588221
That's fine and all but the problem is they could be straight out of the Elder Scrolls. Just a caricature. Why would any other house tolerate their shit? Iron Islanders should have been genocided a long time ago.
Euron is still based though.

>>219588297
>Perhaps the noble Night King will be able to melt your heart.

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>>219573883
>>219580612

Robert's Rebellion was won in the field by Robert, the Tully alliance was only reformed because Jon Arryn married Lysa who was damaged goods (leading eventually to the end of the Arryn line and directly to Jon Arryn's death at her hands), Kingslanding was captured by Tywin (who needlessly killed thousands in the process) with Aerys being killed by Jaime Lannister and Robert killing Rhaegar and as far as "reintegrating" and Lannisters, Jon Arryn effectively handed over the realm to Tywin, taking on massive loans from House Lannister, Cersei keeping her name, Jaime remaining on the Kingsguard and even the Baratheon sigil being divided (all despite Tywin doing jack shit to win the war) and once Robert was seated on the Iron Throne, Jon Arryn didn't guide Robert into becoming a good king and instead, took over the running of the kingdom himself (which is what Jon Arryn always wanted) and didn't even notice Littlefinger enriching himself as he fucked Jon Arryn's wife (with Sweetrobin Arryn most likely being Littlefinger's son).

tl;dr Jon Arryn was a fuckup.

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>>219575905
They’re like the Blackwoods but the opposite, and actually cool

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>>219588178

The Ironborn could have worked if the Iron Islands were larger and farther away in the Western Ocean but they way they're written, there is no way they wouldn't have been genocided long before the Targaryens arrived.

The ironborn actually assimilated and started to become a normal kingdom until the shrike brought back the old ways like 100 years ago

>>219588956
Tatsumaki if she real

>>219575601
Daeron I did conquer them without dragons, the dornoids just stabbed him in the back under a peace banner in the finest display of "dornish courage".

>>219589643
Dornish are actually worse than Ironborn

>>219589808
Dornish are based. Med chads > wannabe vikings

HOTD S3 June bros

>>219590005
Is anyone actually excited for it after the big disappointment of S2? I don't trust Ryan Condal and Sarah Hess. They're gonna fuck it up and insert even more of their fanfic

>>219590112
Well there's not much else to watch

>>219590112
I’m exited for the shitposting to come

>>219588067
Frey#47

>>219588824
Nah if sweetrobin was littlefinger's lysa would have blurted it out during her last minute confession

>>219590269
Fair enough

>>219573947
That is a spur, it was used to break oars precisely because rams were no longer effective.

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>>219575555
i used to be icsh now i'm just vh

>>219574067
The Dornish are actual subhumans but I still would have gladly massacred this tard's supporters for Daeron.
>>219574392
The amount of totally baseless slander Gurm gets is insane. His world has a ton of problems and most of them get glossed over because everyone is so focused on an out of context quote about tax policy.

>>219590797
very handsome?

1. We do not Sow
2. Ours is the Fury
3. Winter is Coming
4. Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken
5. Fire and Blood
6. Hear me Roar
7. As High as Honor
8. Growing Strong
9. Family, Duty, Honor

>>219591145
>1. We do not Sow
Why do they hate intact clothes??

>>219591007
correct

>>219577520
George did a great job at world building but sucked at the religious part of it as most modern writers do because they treat it like people do with modern religion.

>>219577520
They hated him because he told them the truth

>>219590112
I can't wait for Rhaenyra and Alicent to have gay sex

The reason Robert and Jon Arryn didn't care about the debt was because they had a more advanced understanding of economics than Ned and were actually using debt to reinvest into the realm. Income had massively increased, despite the debt, under Robert. The Neanderthals who read the books don't understand leveraging debt. A little bit of embezzlement wouldn't come close to creating those kind of deficits. It was done on purpose. That's why the Realm was so prosperous under Robert and why the Iron Bank were happy to keep lending to him.

>>219583265
There's enough shit from Blackfyre Rebellion First Edition to fill a whole season, let alone an episode or two. Everyone will cream their pants when we get to see young(er) Baelor and Maekar wreck some shitters.

>>219592038
>cunnilingus with fetid medieval pussy

>>219588824
You're mistaken, sacking the city was unnecessary but Kings Landing could have withstood a siege for a long time. Lannisters played an integral part in winning the war.

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King........................................................................................ Consort

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Just two bros, hanging out, discussing who could fuck their sister better. Normal Targ things, ya know?

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>>219588178
The Ironborn needed to be treated like imperial Japan. Strip them of all their military capabilities, smash the Seastone Chair and leave a sizable military force/regent to govern.

>>219588178
They're a great house with some really amusing based retards, but ultimately not very useful to the story. I'm sure they would be portrayed better in the books than in show, but they add so much bloat for nothing more than a "lol." Also I have to give credit for making me absolutely despise a villain (Euron) since I rarely ever hate a character like that.

>>219595143
I just can't get over the casting for young Aemond. Why did they have to get such a chinlit?

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>>219596512
I can't hate Euron because he's an anime villain and it's so stupid it wraps around to being based.

>>219596512
Victarion being taken from us in show form is something I'll never forgive

>>219590005
how many episodes? will they make up for the two that were cut from S2?

how does bronn becoming lord of highgarden and master of coin work.

i mean is there any way it was one of gurm's cliffsnotes ideas or did DnD just go "lol idk fans like him why not"

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>>219597401
Bronn becomes the new head of house Stokeworth and wins a nice lil castle and some land in the books, but for the sake of fan service for the casuals they just gave him high garden because it’s more recognizable and established

>>219594972
There it is, then

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>>219596673
He's a grower

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>>219599176
Stokeworth is prime real estate, very close to kings landing but far enough away not to smell
I didnt realize the Reach extended all the way to within spitting distance of kings landing, Tumbleton and House Footly are sworn to the Reach

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>>219599176
Its like if the devil had a GoT sigil

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>>219599548
Also the show stokeworth castle looks as big as the show highgarden

How are there still lamb men for drogo to sack you would think they would have all died or run off generations ago

>>219602942
Same reason there's still wildlings despite the Norf having mass mortality events every winter and the climate being far worse beyond the Wall.

>>219603059
Reindeer herds?

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most /fa/ king in history thats fo sho

>>219602942
Because most of the Lamb Men live to the south of a great river, and the Dothraki don't cross water.

The ones the Dothraki raid are essentially the Lamb Men's overspill because there's little room left in their homeland, excess population and herds crossing the river and taking a chance on grazing the Grasses of the 'Dothraki Sea'.

>>219597401
>how does bronn becoming lord of highgarden and master of coin work.
It doesn’t. The show itself tells you this. In S2 when asked if he would kill an infant, Bronn tells Tyrion that he’d ask how much. And in S3 he also again tells Tyrion that he’s financially illiterate. This is someone you absolutely do not want as a lord of anything, let alone master of coin. All it does is make Tyrion look like a an even bigger retard because despite knowing that bronn is a financially illiterate sellsword that lacks morals, he still decides to put him in charge of an entire kingdom as well as the crowns finances. It was mostly definitely just another instance of DnD retardation.

>>219599404
lol, that's exactly why I dislike the casting for kid Aemond tho. Not hating on the child actor, I think he nailed it But I have an incredibly hard time seeing these 2 actors as the same person

>>219604522
I feel that way about everyone but Alicent

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Why is Westeros Florida located in da norf?

>>219541231
>/got/hotd/dunk/

Why don't y'all just rename it /westeros/??

>>219605130
Because that's too smart for /tv/

>>219604988
>Jojen is fucking Musk's ex-wife
kek

Jojen could have been lifted right out of the television show with no consequence the three eyed raven was already calling Bran north in his dreams

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Listening to the books on audio for the first time, and the show lannisters are far more sympathetic then their books counter parts. Book lannisters are pieces of shit and i found myself rooting for stannis or robb to kill them, never felt that way really in the show , even though I know how the story goes

>>219607754
Whats different with book tyrion versus show tyrion at the beginning? Surely you don’t hate the somersault that much

>>219607754
Thats part because the books are structured differently, the show added a lot of tywin and jamie and joffery scenes that were not in the books and they are barley in it at all as background characters off screen and the lannisters are mostly just tyrion and cersie untill asos iirc

>>219604988
jojen kissing bran was kino

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>>219607754
>listening to books

anyone got the list of all the /got/ houses

>>219609384
yes i got the list

>>219604988
>>219605190
crazy how that dude is like in his mid 30s but looks like hes 12

>>219609455
when he's 70 he'll look 30

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>>219609455
maybe there really is a youth potion

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>>219607754
Can you not read? Also Jamie and Tyrion are relatively similar to their book counterparts. Cerseii is the only that is substantially more crazy in the books but that's because it gives you insight into that she's actually thinking

What did I miss? Currently starting GoT season 8 of my rewatch. Wish me luck.

Dude I msick of Catelyn pov it's all looksmax Blackpill bullshit

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>>219590112
>>219592038
>wHaT iF rHaEnYs CaMe ThRoUgH tHe FlOoR oN a DrAgOn?!
>wHaT iF rHaEnYrA aNd MySaRiA kIsSeD oUt Of NoWhErE?!
>wHaT iF rHaEnYrA aNd AlLiCeNt MaDe Up AnD rAn OfF tO eSsOs?!

>loshentos
what does that mean?

Jon is the son of Ned and Ashara Dayne.

>>219611500
No one used this word so you tell us

>>219612222
Checked; nice resolution too

>>219612222
What DID George mean by this?

>>219612668
ToT

>>219612668
don't ask question you don't want answers to

>>219612222
>kills Jaehaera only so he can write how pretty a 6 year old is
what a pedo hack

>>219559705
it's their armor that is iron, not the ships. Other seafaring armies in Westeros don't wear iron armor when boarding because they don't want to drown.

>>219567020
he wasn't always fat, probably just writes from memory

>>219612222
>daenera would be a fucking shitskin in hotd
Erm...I'm sticking with the Bolton.

So are Tully women the most realistic foids?