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Kodos the Executioner edition
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I just finished watching The Apple
>Aliens live immortally in paradise with a "God" providing for them
>they don't need to work or do anything except feed their god
>Kirk comes and blows up their god
>"you'll learn to work for yourselves"
I thought Gene wanted a (communist) paradise. Now those aliens have to get jobs and pay taxes.
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>Alexander Hilary Kurtzman (born September 7, 1973) is an American filmmaker. He is best known for co-writing the scripts to Transformers (2007), Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009), Star Trek (2009), Star Trek Into Darkness (2013), and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) with his writing and producing partner Roberto Orci, and directing and co-writing The Mummy (2017). He made his directorial debut with People Like Us (2012), co-written alongside Orci and Jody Lambert.
Jesus wept
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The first 6 'sodes of DS9 S6 are so kino; there are so many Dukat, Damar, Weyoun, and Female Changeling scenes, it's like the villains took over the show just as they did the station.
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>>219629948
This is unironically how zoomers view anyone older than 25. The spike in suicides when they turn 30 and aren’t millionaire influencers is going to be an epidemic.
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Is he right?
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It suddenly occurred to me only just now to look up whether there was a USS Voyager in the US Navy...
What a magnificent ship!
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>>219632815
We could just forget that and pretend Voyager was named after the British (later, Australian) one
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>>219633379
For some reason attitudes have changed considerably in the last 20-25 years.
Back then, it was normal to shit on Voyager or Enterprise, in fact it was encouraged.
But now it's considered "nazi incel behavior" to not just automatically love everything that comes out. "It's your moral obligation to support it!" and so on.
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>But now it's considered "nazi incel behavior" to not just automatically love everything that comes out.
It's because the people who care the most and are the loudest about nuslop are actual Nazis shitting their pants because there's black people or ugly people in Star Trek and making 2 videos a day about a show they don't even watch for the grift. The people who aren't watching it or just think the show is bad but aren't /pol/brained retards aren't saying anything.
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>>219632734
No. It's canon/source autists and woketards. They had their young and normie audience with the JJ Trek movies. Then both of those ratfuck groups began to tear it apart: "It's sexist and too male", "The ship is too big. It's a fucking brewery". Along came Kurtzman to fully side with the woketards and all of it was just squandered away.
Honestly I hope they completely reinvent Star Trek and take inspiration from the western elements of Sheridan's 1883 but applied to space. No more Kirk. No more memberberries and cameos. No more Enterprise. And like Sheridan you stay the course and ignore the haters.
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>>219633598
Someone in the aftermath of WWII once said something like "In the future, those who call themselves anti-fascist will be the real fascists".
This quote was attributed to Winston Churchill for some time, but regardless of who really said it, the fact remains that time has inevitably proven it to be true.
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Seriously you guys have mental illness exactly the same as ponyfags. Video games and anime aren't as entry level normie accessible so those boards don't suffer from it AS much but "/pol/faggotry outside of /pol/" should have been made a bannable offense ages ago.
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>"It's sexist and too male"
I tried to find some Trek videos on youtube and got two woketards (male) saying "SNW is conservative propaganda" or some shit.
Can only hope that studios learn that you can never cave to woketards.
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The Wounded is such a kino episode. Colm Meaney can act
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>>219632734
It's funny, the way this is worded is somewhat admitting that the sets of past entries feel more real than newer ones, despite them being higher budgets. I suppose it's the utilitarian simplicity of a space submarine or similar, versus the neon nightclub rave atrocities that are the more recent bridge layouts. Old trek looked comfy as a kid, and even moreso as an adult, new trek looks like I'd get a splitting headache after half an hour, while wondering where the bodypainted chick with the bag of MDMA pills is.
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>Commander, I've made a career out of knowing when to leave, and this Bajoran provisional government is far too provisional for my taste. And when governments fall, people like me are lined up and shot.
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>>219636269
Why is it always the leftist faggitty fascists that want to ban free speech?
Yeah... Let's just ban all political speech in Star Trek... Even though Star Trek itself is, and always has been, literally saturated with politics.
You people are total idiots.
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>Why is it always the leftist faggitty fascists that want to ban free speech?
>Yeah... Let's just ban all political speech in Star Trek... Even though Star Trek itself is, and always has been, literally saturated with politics.
>You people are total idiots.
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You have to admit, if you take out the fatties and negresses, nuTrek has some cute actresses.
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>>219637162
>625 episodes from TOS to ENT
>10 feature film movies before JJ
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>~250 episodes of nutrek across all series
>3 feature films (JJtrek) and a direct to streaming movie (Section 31)
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>Redditors and brown people hate freedom.
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>Kek nutrek tranny is mad
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>>219638224
And not a single person can name one character or idea introduced by NuTrek. I don’t know what’s worse, NuTrek having zero cultural impact. Or a whole generation thinking Star Trek was always about 21st century identity politics.
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Scott Bakula's New Star Trek: UNITED Show Confirmed
https://youtu.be/HRJllmbN6c8
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>Worf didn't destroy the Enterprise
>he lost it while cloaked
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>where are the tomatos you son of a bitch!?
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>>219642652
that goes without saying around here
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I've been thinking for a while now that a drone show for Star Trek would be cool as hell. Imagine being able to see a 1:1 Enterprise-D sitting in the sky with your bare eyes and finally being able to understand the mammoth scale of it. Look at this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ho1-JBBmw
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Did Dax fuck this guy or just want to fuck him right before her wedding? I forget which it was.
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>>219645301
Just watched this 'sode. He and Morn wake up from behind the couch right after Dax does. I feel like it's implied they had a three-way.
Also why would Worf invite Bashir to his bachelor party but not Odo? Worf and Bashir barely talk and Odo seems like his closest friend since Riker. Also a missed opportunity to have some TNG cameos but I get that IRL budget + scheduling and in-universe wartime + short notice justifies their absence, but still.
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>>219632906
It's Gens X and Y who hate NuTrek, because we actually have to deal with diversity bullshit firsthand, Boomer experience with diversity is mediated entirely through television. This is why why, on the whole, Xers and Millennials are far more racist, homophobic and antisemitic than Boomers.
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>>219633598
Those content creators to whomst you're referring are not National Socialists or Third Positionists, they're in fact basic botch cuckservatives, I can assure you they love niggers and faggots and jews just as much as you do and when they say "Democrats and liberals are the real racist Nazis", their equally midwife brains genuinely believe it.
I'm a Nazi, I just have my own headcanon and ignore pretty much anything past Voyager. I've even considered walking back First Contact, now I'm no longer sure if that was a good turn for the series, definitely excoriate the other TNG movies. If I want a new Star Trek to consume, I just make it myself with help of Claude the AI.
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>Colm Meaney can act
Here's a dirty little secret: writers write for actors who can act.
For all the cast members out there who bemoaned their lack of episodes, it's because you're fucking dead wood and having teeth pulled is a better experience for the audience.
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It all makes sense
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I wish they made a series all about the doctor...and another one about the ferengi (´•ω•‵)
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>>219653078
Not true. He was found out, and eventually paid the ultimate price for what he did, thanks to the patient, unbiased investigation, and due diligence of Captain Kirk.
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He was a loser who just wanted to aura farm, and when he realized his starfleet career goes nowhere (because he's a loser), he switched to terrorism, just to be seen.
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>As far as they're concerned, we'll always be niggers.
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>you know i cant stay
>tell the frieght Im sorry
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Will you buy IDW's 60th anniversary special comic?
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>>219660627
>doesn't even include the only real gay character in trek
for shame
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>Ferasan attache from the Klingon Empire smells a Caitian crewmember going into heat
>both have to be restricted to quarters
>both end up breaking containment and by luck of plot comedy end up in your quarters on your weekend off
>???
>report to station several days later hobbling, covered in scars, with the biggest shiteating grin on your face possible
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>subjugated species
No, they have alliances with major players like the Gorn.
>slaves?
Only penal ones, I think, and that might be restricted solely to Klingons. It's more they've lost their honor and so are considered below personhood, than standard slavery for the sake of it.
>what happened after the moon boom
Major concessions both to the Federation to become allied as well as local powers such as Orion for trade goods. Within the military and political structures not much changed. If you're willing to accept books and STO lore, species like Ferasans and Gorn have risen quite far in their ranks, to equivalent of captains and admirals.
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they did but it was more about conquering than controlling. they also had a lot of colonies. praxis exploding didnt slow them down much because they made peace with the federation. klingons didnt need help. they just needed to end the cold war so they could reallocate resources to domestic issues. the threat of klingon refugees shitting up the galaxy was imagined. same as the klingons imagined the federation was a military threat.
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>>219662103
i wonder if that junior organian got fired for fucking up and making first contact thousands of years too early
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I was assuming we were talking movie era, some of the TOS lore got changed and shuffled around to make them less... blatantly evil. Even then, and it's been a good decade and a half since I last watched it, but from what I recall their intent was solely to have military occupation for strategic placement against thr Federation, not to uplift the people of the planet into the Klingon Empire.
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>it's a Crazy Joe Davola episode
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>Male homosexuality doesn’t exist in the future because the neurological conditioning that leads to it easily prevented.
There shpuld have been a Genophage storyline where the conflict is whether or not to make a violent species gay so they all go extinct in a generation or two.
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>>219665348
>The Federation has a gay bomb, look it up!
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They weren't aware of that happening.
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>Because it's crazy to so casually drop a piece of lore like that (destroying the idea of utopian federation)
They were quite clear on what happened. It was a remote colony where the automated systems broke down, and the people reverted to savage rape gangs. Quark mentions the phenomenon on DS9 where he points out that humans are only friendly as long as their replicators are working, and they become violent savages the moment their fully automated space communism goes away.
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>>219632734
Most of the 'boomer' aged fans I've met just unabashedly love anything with Star Trek in the title. Gen X seems to the most critical.
Than again this spiderwolve fag probably thinks Gen X are boomers.
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>WEYOUN: You keep referring to us as the station's, quote, occupying force, unquote.
>JAKE: What's wrong with that?
>WEYOUN: It has a negative connotation. All your articles are filled with pejorative terminology, which is why I've been forced to withhold their transmission.
>JAKE: The only reason I stayed here was to report on the occupation.
>WEYOUN: You see, there you go again. This is not an occupation. This is a Cardassian station, Jake, and I'm sure you're aware that there are no Dominion troops on Bajor. And why should there be? We have a treaty with them. They're our friends.
>JAKE: All right. I'm sorry. I didn't mean anything by it.
>WEYOUN: If you want me to send your articles to the Federation, you're going to have to provide a more balanced perspective
Was it really a good idea to write partisan clickbait while also being an enemy saboteur and engaging in espionage?
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>>219632734
The last line of defense for these people is always "You're not a REAL fan!"
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Or even television shows, movies, actors/actresses, and filmmaking?
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>>219632734
>That on top of the fact that they've lost the ability to connect to what it means to be a young Trekkie watching young Star Fleet.
When I was young Star Trek was actuslly on TV, in the middle of the day, I used to watch it when I came home from school. It was approachable, straightforward, engaging, wasn't filled with crass language, swearing, sexual innuendo, or constant explosions, and it held my 13-year old attention just fine...
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>>219669523
Does anyone even care at this point? About others calling them a “real fan”?
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Thoughts on Saurians?
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>>219669970
I enjoy the remastered TOS series because they are clearer, brighter, crisper, more colorful, and overall more watchable than the original release. I also enjoy the upgraded, and augmented effects that were either impossible or impractical to create when the original show was produced.
As far as TNG is concerned, I have no opinion. First, because I never heard anything about any remastered version, and second, because I never really liked it enough to care.
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The new effects in the TOS remaster are tasteful. People complaining about them are being performative and retarded especially because they anticipated that reaction and made it so you they're toggleable so there is literally and truly nothing to complain about but people will still do it anyway
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>>219669970
For TOS, always watch the broadcast edit first, then the remaster. Even Shatner hates the remastered effects. I think the only place to find the broadcast edit is the BD set. For TNG, the remaster is the only option unless you want to hunt down a DVD copy or rip. But the changes aren’t at all jarring like TOS.
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>>219671019
There's nothing wrong with having differing opinions on a TV show. But trying to force your personal opinion on others, in a rude and insufferable way is nothing more than exposing oneself as a proponent of intellectual fascism.
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>>219630155
I tried watching TOS last summer, and while there were some decent standouts in there, it felt like most of it was “the crew of the Enterprise must outwit someone with godlike power” or “Kirk and an away team are stranded on a hostile world”.
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>>219672156
i especially enjoy the ones set on a planet with a medieval dungeon or 1930s main street USA.
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>are being performative
I really don't have any objections to an occasional remastering if something looked spectacularly awful. But I accidentally watched the remastered version of Galileo Seven recently. CGI was awful, completely destroying the cinematography of the original beautiful shuttle shots. And all the shots of the Enterprise somehow look weightless compared to the original. It went beyond 'tasteful'.
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Jake Sisko, one of the worst and most inaccurate “journalists” in the Quadrant, stated that I “declared premature victory in Bajor.” Actually, it is a Victory, and there’s nothing “premature” about it! Because of me, STARFLEET WILL NEVER HAVE THE WORMHOLE and, very quickly, you’ll see White start flowing, with or without the help of the Federation and, to me, it makes no difference, either way. Jake Sisko will, as usual, live to eat his words. He is always quick to criticize, but never to admit when he's wrong, which is most of the time! Gul SKRAIN G. DUKAT
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>somehow look weightless
I don't disagree that the remaster VFX is not great but stop using this word to describe something you can't articulate. For one thing, the ships are in space so you should see the obvious rebuttal coming...
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>>219672763
Roddenberry was a sex pest btw
https://youtu.be/Q6GqblcVkLM
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>>219674018
It's implied Risa is an anything goes planet where even the most depraved kinks aren't given second thought.
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>>219673119
I really didn't think 'CGI from 2006 looks weightless' was a controversial statement, it's a pretty standard criticism of it.
>stop using this word to describe something you can't articulate
Would the statement be better if I tried to retardedly intellectualize it and say "according the principles of motion design the original shots used timing and spacing to express some weight to the motion?" Or would all that be pointless because I'm not a professional reviewer and don't want to research an essay on motion when 'weightless' is a way to describe the same thing.
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>>219674657
>I really didn't think 'CGI from 2006 looks weightless' was a controversial statement, it's a pretty standard criticism of it.
Davey Jones and the dinosaurs from Jurassic Park hold up better today than most Marvelslop made in the past 10 years what in the actual fuck are you talking about? You're just literally saying words while being up your own ass.
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>>219674795
We're not talking about high-grade best of the best CGI in Hollywood, we're talking about TV CGI. You can't play stupid that TV CGI and huge big budget films working tirelessly to account for the flaws of early CGI are the same thing.
Early CGI lacking flow (and motion, which add to the weight of an object) is not a controversial statement, I don't know why you are acting like it is. People have been talking about this exact thing for decades, see: "No Flow in CGI". It is mostly noticeable to people with things like hair and clothing of human characters, but the same principles apply to any motion design (and motion design adds to the perceived weight of an object).
Modern CGI is bad because it's cheap and rushed. That doesn't change the hurdles that early CGI had to go through lacking of flow, motion and weight just because big budget best-of-the-best films worked to account for it.
I've already been tricked into writing some retarded essay for you, that's the last I'll say on it. I'm sorry you're too retarded to know the history of CGI and get triggered by the word weightless.
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>We're not talking about high-grade best of the best CGI in Hollywood, we're talking about TV CGI. You can't play stupid that TV CGI and huge big budget films working tirelessly to account for the flaws of early CGI are the same thing.
Star Trek literally had ILM make stuff for them for example the starfield they always use. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. The CG in the remasters is exactly the way they wanted it to look. There's nothing wrong with it. Just say you don't like it and move the fuck on.
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Anything pre-Avatar is early CGI. And probably a few years after it. Deal with it.
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Anon, I need you to breath deeply before I say this, I wouldn't want to trigger you too severely: many scenes are inferior to the original and, in fact, are what critics may call... "weightless!" based on the principles of motion design discussed in most basic animation and film classes. If you want me to explain in depth, you'll have to pay me to be your tutor because I don't write class lectures for free!
You can say you like it, Anon, but try not to be a child and get triggered by someone using a perfectly fine descriptor like "weightless" in basic criticism.
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If they ever remastered DS9 they should pull an ENT and have the intro for those episodes change into an "evil" version called Star Trek: Terok Nor. And while we're at it, do the same for the mirror episodes whole also flipping the shots.
Also for Trials and Tribble-ations do the TOS style credits sequence like they originally planned.
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>it's a Milos episode
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and then dukat rapes her to death
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Say what you will, I for one think that Bajor was objectively better off allied with the Dominion than with the Federation
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>JAKE: I understand that a decision's been made to send four thousand Dominion facilitators down to Bajor. Would you care to elaborate?
>KIRA: It's only four hundred and how did you hear about that? The official announcement isn't scheduled until tomorrow.
>KIRA: Ever since the war started, Bajor's been completely cut off from all outside trade. We've had nowhere to turn for things like spare parts or medical supplies. Nowhere, except the Dominion. So a group of Facilitators is going to Bajor for a few months to provide some technical assistance.
>JAKE: How do you respond to critics like Vedek Yassim who say that by welcoming a group of Vorta to Bajor you're taking the first step toward Dominion occupation?
>ODO: I have been assured that the Facilitators will be unarmed and unaccompanied by any Jem'Hadar soldiers.
>JAKE: Odo, do you have any concerns that by joining the Ruling Council here on the station, you're validating the occupation?
WEYOUN ASKED HIM NICELY AND HES STILL CALLING IT AN OCCUPATION FUCK JOURNALISTS FUCK JAKE
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Oh, waah.
This is what I was talking about here
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It has always made me wonder how some people who claim to be fans of Star Trek could be so clueless about the positive vision of the future presented in Roddenberry's show regarding the Federation's benevolent acceptance of variations in beliefs and customs of alien civilizations - in an effort to achieve a kind of peaceful co-existince - that they would resort to such malicious, childlike attacks on other fans who disagree with them.
I'm reminded here of Doctor McCoy when he said, "I'm a doctor, not a psychiatrist", but I do wonder what kind of psychological trauma these types of people have suffered to make them behave this way, and why it is tolerated.
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Are there any TOS experts that could answer a question for me? I just watched That Which Survives. When the ship is locked into high warp drive and is 15 minutes from exploding, Scott crawls into an access tube to try to make fixes to keep the ship from blowing up. This makes sense to me. But, then Spock has Lt. Rahda prepare to jettison the pod along Scott on his order. Why? If jettisoning the pod will save the ship, then why not do it before the 15 minues are up and give Scottie a few seconds to get clear before hitting the jettison button? If it won't save the ship, then why bother with the jettison at all?
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Omega Glory is uniquely hilarious because Roddenberry thought it was so great that he submitted it for an award.
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You people are on some sort of Star Trek?
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Hey, you saw the ship for yourself, didn't you?
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I'll have what he's having
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>please Kira please won’t you fuck my dad please pls please just fuck my dad please Kira pls pls pls
What did Ziyal mean by this?
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Nah, she just wanted to watch.
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>it's a Maestro episode
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There's nothing really wrong with the CGI. Since I have the older DVD sets, I don't usually have to see the remastered versions but they're completely fine. The only things I have never really liked about them are, the way that they changed some of the computer readouts, like in pic related, which I think look a bit crap, and I think they made the stars in the exterior shots and out of the viewscreen look a bit dull compared to the original.
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>it's a Babu episode
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>It's a Jackie Chiles episode
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>it’s a Lloyd Braun episode
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The Mandingonites
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Based and bugpilled.
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