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>News & updates
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>Resources
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give me a reason to actually use these fucking guns please, game
I'm not even worried about their blueprints after the next wipe, because there's no fucking reason to use them
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>>555622870
>leave with pinks
>cheater that can you see your gear clocks you from across the map
>get aimbotted and looted
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I keep using them just for fun but always regret it instantly
bettina looks and sound cool but its completely useless against anything and loses durability faster than any other gun
I literally cant tell the difference between a moded bobcat and stitcher
tempest is fun but also kinda useless since its mediocre at medium range AND close range so why would you ever bring it?
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>>555622956
it's the mouth, and being one of the very few girlboss characters in these dei games that actually don't have a bitch personality
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>got around to building an aphelion after scavenging a matriarch reactor
>slap on a padded stock and vertgrip2 since I see it's burstfire
>take it out into a run where I'm doing a quest
>its straight up dogshit
what the actual fuck devs
it can't onetap either small flying arc, you can't use it beyond close-med range because the shot spread is so fucking wide EVEN WITH A PURPLE STOCK AND VERTGRIP, and it's very meh against players
this was a waste of resources, not that they matter because every high-tier gun is a waste of resources, but still
am I going to be just as disappointed when I get around to scrounging a couple of queen reactors for the jupiter and equalizer?
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stitcher is actually more accurate, ironically enough
tempest is powercrept by renegade
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Is there ever a single good reason to squad with randoms?
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>solo vs teams queue
fuck that retarded pvp shit, where's my goddamn "fresh match only" queue??
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anvil 4 handles arc
burletta 4 handles players
2 stacks of heavy 1 stack of light, all fits in surv3 safe pockets to deny rats a refill if they do take you down
simple as
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>>555624081
Nope. Soloing into squad matches is more fun because you don't have to deal with carrying anchor teammates. I queue solo in 1 v 3 then instigate fights between nearby trios. Either that or I Mysterious Stranger big ARC with explosives and then leave on a grapple hook. Sometimes people will STILL try to kill me despite the fact I saved their entire ass squad from being obliterated by Rocketeers, Bastions, or Bombardiers. The nerve of these niggers.
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>>555626371
eh, I skipped the first one because fuck grinding all the comfy blueprints again
then they made the droprates something approaching reasonable, so I'm doing this one
I may skip the next, depends
definitely muling a few critical BPs though
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group players / pvp players don't "think" like you would expect a functioning human to, they just see movement and shoot because COD/BF/Tarkov monkey brain go brrrrr
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Only time a Trio player didn't shoot me on sight it was a woman. I helped her kill a Surveyor with sticky nades. Her teammates rolled up a couple minutes later and I immediately left them alone, didn't even let them catch a glimpse of me, because I knew one of her buddies would start itching to gun me down and laugh about it.
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>stella montis
>managed to gather some much needed supplies
>3 mins left check map for extract
>loading dock is greyed out while metro lobby was still lit up
>get to lobby with 1min to spare and i see the lights flashing green
>however once i reach the platform there is no train console is unresponsive but lights are still flashing green
>recheck map extract still lit but no countdown check seed vault its lit and has countdown
i was robbed
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Probably a skill issue in some way but I really feel like most PvP fights are largely determined by who shoots who first and it's just kinda tiresome. The amount times I have been able to recover from getting shot in the back and being able to win is pretty low because of how having to reshield and heal in this game works. I have to run smoke grenades most of the time. Fuck the Ferro btw.
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>Probably a skill issue in some way but I really feel like most PvP fights are largely determined by who shoots who first and it's just kinda tiresome
that is absolutely, 100% a skill issue (not hating btw). All players are playing by the same rules, so if someone is able to shoot you in the back, it means they did something that you didn't.
Building position, like in chess, is an "invisible" skill that determines how the game goes. Ideally, you want to be fashionably late to every fight, and that often means playing the game counter-intuitively.
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i tagged it at 4min and it was white still. my guess is it shut off at 5min but whatever glitch caused it to be stuck in train arrived kept it lit up.
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1v3 is anti pvp mode, you just sneak around and scavenge leftovers
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Does anybody have a spare Ion Sputter?
I've been to Stella Montis 5 times in a row now and the thing just doesnt spawn for me.
Can trade for a magnetizer or some other purple stuff maybe?
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What outfit is this?
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>>555634193
just buy one
https://www.hitachi-hightech.com/us/en/products/microscopes/peripheral -equipment/mc1000.html
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Thanks.
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>>555636295
>virtually unchanged average player count since release
yes, people still play retard
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>>555629490
Kinda, not really, maybe?
Most fights in solo/duo start and end before the shooting begins through infohogging/postitioning. It's still giga gay regardless because of the TPP, which is why combat sucks.
TTK needs to go up, this game needs to allow everyone one big mistake to be made in combat, else solo PvP will never get fixed.
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>queue into a queen event
>bring a ton of arc killing gear, equalizer, anvil, bunch of wolfpacks
>nobody is killing the queen and arcs
>i solo it, expend most of my shit, all my wolfpacks
>it dies
>all of a sudden, all these niggers start swarming the dead queen, and other arcs i killed
>i received 0 (ZERO) help, it was all literally me
>they loot all my shit and they NEVER HELPED WHATSOFUCKINGEVER
>i didn't get to loot any cores, they all get stolen
>start shooting and killing these niggers
>they all turn on me
>they all call me a rat, giving my position away on proximity chat
>i die, lose EVERYTHING DIDN'T EVEN GET TO LOOT
Seriously, what the fuck can be done about freeloading niggers who steal your fucking loot without helping you once? Once you kill shit that is of any value, they all swarm it like rats. This was in Chungartha too, I hate this community so fucking much.
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>>555629490
You are probably letting people get way too close to you. I've won so many fights where someone else shoots first. If you let a guy with a stitcher get in your face and then shoot you it's your fault desu
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I need advice from an actual French rider, regarding (mandatory?) helmet stickers.
This summer I'll do a multi week tour across the northern french coast and apparently you're supposed to wear reflective stickers on all 4 sides and the top of your helmet. If the cops stop you and your helmet doesn't have those reflectors, they can prohibit you from driving any further.
Question: do I have to put on literal reflective bars on my helmet or can it be any kind of reflective sticker, like yoshimura logos etc?
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https://youtu.be/uqL9BSDy918?si=lc352hqX0RdYAsLj
Thanks to whoever first posted this guy. I could always tell this guy was probably great at pvp too. it's nice to see what happens when you fuck with him while he's trying to do trials.
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>>555640356
>videogame sloptuber shills his boring channel on 4chan
buy an ad
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>>555640356
STOP LIKING AND DISCUSSING YOUTUBERS AND STREAMERS IN MY PERSONAL SAFE PLACE
I HATE THEM BECAUSE I AINT THEM
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I knew I was going to get killed yesterday and had a few Wolfpack grenades. I threw all my Wolfpack grenades, and the dropped my purple gun in a bush along with anything else remotely valuable, then ran at the guy shooting a stitcher with nothing but garbage loot on me
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>>555639623
>loot stolen by chungarthans
Pro tip: Trigger nades are the best tool to cull PvE players. You can throw them without LoS and the radius is enough to damage multiple at once. If you carry multiple stacks in your hotbar it will automatically equip the next stack, allowing you to spam up to 15.
I once downed 4 friendlies with a single trigger nade while they looted a bastion.
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Holy, that's based!!
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>>555642629
>two of the oldguard who streamed with him when he had like 100 followers and the rest of the Tarkov community vehemently hated him
>spent about $3000 on both of them for Christmas
So he obviously is playing into the being a dickhead bit. Not sure why we hate this guy
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>>555642893
>>spent about $3000 on both of them for Christmas
I think it was even more than that, I used to think Officer was a fuckhead, but now I know they've been friends since the beginning and his attitude makes more sense
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>>555644190
I get mad at the mean people too anon. Also
>simple grammar mistake
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>>555644159
NTA but he rubbed me the wrong way when he first started Arc Raiders and basically didn't care about anything Peanut was trying to explain and then begged Peanut to bring in "loot" nothing specific, but because he was poor, I guess that's something you do in Tarkov
then same stream he's like
>this is so weird
>Peanut: what
>we're fighting the boss, usually in Tarkov we let other people do it and then shoot them in the back
???
and later
>"do I need X item?"
>peanut: yea its for upgrading your bench
>"do I want to do that?"
>peanut: if you plan on playing for awhile yea
>"so no"
probably just joking with context now, but just came off like a retarded Tarkov player
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>>555644232
>cloakzy says the nigger word right on stream
>peanut laughs it off and makes a joke about it saying "you'll piss a bunch of pussies on Twitter off and then we will stream tomorrow and it'll be like nothing happened"
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>>555644494
Seems like the game clicked for him though. He keeps on playing it. I get it though, Tarkov is still a lot different than Arc and Tarkov players are die hard. Surprised Peanut hasn't really gone back to it.
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>spawn damn night raid with a room key
>17 minutes left, everything looted and arcs everywhere
>grab some green and blue shit, leave, queue again
>16 minutes left, everything looted, arcs everywhere
>grab some green and blue shit and leave, queue again
>18 minutes left, everything looted, arcs everywhere
this is 5 times in a row now, is there some kind of matchmaking that decides if you're allowed to get good loot or not?
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>>555646994
guess it will be nice next expedition
after leveling up 40 levels normally for some reason
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>cultural archives
>containers contain nothing but plastic parts and cloths
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Kinda drippy, no?
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>whirrrrrr
>brEEEEEEEEE
>Brruhuhuhu
>PSHHHH
>BOOM BOOM BOOM
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Driftcoat is still the outfit that goes the hardest
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>peanut has less than 200,000 in cash
>has nearly 10,000 credits
Kek. I only have 800/800. I did blow through the entire hockey set in one go with all the creds I did have prior to the cap being added. Also, for all the money this dude makes streaming, his coin amount is the same it would be from all the free ones he got, meaning even he doesn't buy any of the skins. Is that a sign of how shit most of the skins really are? The Finals skins are top fucking tier.
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I don't get why people like it so much
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oh come the fuck on, really?
>>555650935
industrial zones
power rod room at dam, or under the research and admin area
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>>555649153
>peanut has less than 200,000
I was just looking at this tonight and I could have sworn he had 700k a few days ago.
>>555648609
So you don't think it's at all possible that some of us are American players who play the game and also watch content related to the game? That isn't at all possible? I wonder if you're actually even American yourself and not some 3rd worlder projecting onto everyone else.
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>>555651210
how is your leaderboard looking?
>>555650935
its completely RNG, I've randomly found them on the shelves in the that Water Testing Plant in the middle of Dam and other areas, like the Hydroponics place
I'll get them randomly when I completely breach everything in Scrapyard on dam, but it's not consistent
the busses at the north extract I think have them spawn more often
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nta either but mine is
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>>555651447
number one is currently at 100k even, so pretty casual, though I expect I'll get bumped down to single-promo by the weekend
it's fine, I'll just need to single-promo after that and maintain until season end
not even gonna bother trying for cantina since fucking group scores count
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>>555648739
this, but lose the helmet
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>>555647806
Why do Swedes give men tits?
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>>555651426
Peanut farms before stream. As other streamers has killed him and cloakzy while their streams were off by randomly encountering them. Peanut burns through his entire stash playing the clown and running into gunfire with braindead aggressive plays. Great to watch when it catches players off guard and wipes them, equally great when Peanut gets btfo in the attempt.
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>streamer this
>streamer that
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>>555650935
Random: Enter the ramp, pic related loot and breach everything. I see one or two following this route. Found in Domes too.
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>>555650935
does motor anon still need one? I just looted a couple doing a quest
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>>555654637
if I get ratted, I don't want to rat to use my ammo on someone else
it's also easier to keep my main inventory clear for loot
if I found something of actual value I'd replace a stack with it but nothing in the mission was really worth much except maybe those springs, and it was a super chill
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Streamer general. Try reddit for your first play through green texts that are a dime a dozen out of the million times they were posted here.
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>suggesting the murder of chungarthians
you are brown.
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>>555655054
Fuck off nigger.
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>>555654637
For example I'd probably put the ropes in my safe pocket right now because I need ziplines for trials and I don't think you can craft ropes.
A few weeks ago I would have put springs and rusty tools in my safe pocket for springs.
I have most of the BP I'm looking for and I don't care about most bps.
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asking once again. does anybody have the gif of gingy doing this dance when someone buys gifted subs/bits/donos from her arc raiders streams? need to post it every thread desu.
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>Helldivers crossover paid deck is announced (real money)
>you get the B-01 tactical outfit from it and some other goodies
Would you buy it (real money)?
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>>555655429
stand near the entrance for example the harvester not at the entrance but the inside part even before the vent blades or on the second level of the harvester not even near a window anywhere up there and if she steps near you when walking over it you will get hit. with the matriarch its the same thing with depots, bunker entrances or those high cragy rocks
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>>555656256
I still dont understand why she looks so fat on stream with such a wide nose. Seeing her in other videos like that interview she looks cute as hell, then go to her stream and she looks like la creatura de goblina.
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Found advanced electrical components in one of these on Spaceport. Didn't know it could drop them.
Found one in one of those dead androids on Stella, too. Also didn't know those could have them (was looking for sensors)
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Interesting, thank you.
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mm, think I've found the best looking combination of attachments for the bobcat
shame there's no point in actually using it, though I've got so many of them at this point I could lose one every day and still not run out by the time the wipe happens
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>>555657864
>I gotta quit holding in shits and pisses before raids
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>>555658520
money becomes completely irrelevant pretty quickly after you have maxed out your available stash space and gotten the handful of "mandatory" blueprints
sure it's useful for meds and ammo but it very quickly piles up
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I have a strong suspicion they added that mode specifically for nolife streamniggers to have a quick way of farming cash to fund their "pvp-only" style of gameplay
fuck streamers
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>GUYS NEW CONTENT AFTER MONTHS OF NOTHING SINCE COLDSNAP WHICH WAS JUST A LAME ASS SNOW MAP WHERE YOU PICK GAY ASS BERRIES THAT DO NOTHING
>meme matchmaking that permanently ruins trios, somehow lowered the bar worse than "just level 40+ matchmaking"
>a stupid ass mini-event for looting green ducks that only appears like 2 times a day at like 5am est for some god forsaken reason EVEN THOUGH BURIED CITY HAS THE LEAST EVENTS CONSIDERING THEY CANT GET MATRIARCH OR HARVESTER WHY IS THIS NOT UP MORE OFTEN EMBARK??????????????? DO YOU NOT WANT PEOPLE TO PLAY YOUR NEW FUCKING CONTENT?????
>GUYS BALANCE PATCH DEVS MENTIONED STITCHER AND KETTLE NERFS HOLY SHIT THE GAME IS SAVED!
>trigger nade still the best nade, barely nerfed
>kettle got pooped on, but stitcher was left untouched AGAIN
>no other changes
>GUYS WE HEAR YOU, IT WAS OUR BAD NOT TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THE 5M REQUIREMENT LAST EXPEDITION UNTIL THE LAST WEEK. WONT HAPPEN AGAIN, BTW WE ARE PLANNING TO CHANGE THINGS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THE MONEY WAS JUST TOO BORING OF A WAY TO DO IT!
>3 weeks until expedition, still 0 communication on what will be required of us
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>>555658520
How is it making money? You can get trinkets from nearly all the containers on buried shitty. I get my money sprinting between all the mechanical accelerator/exodus module spawns on stella since they are rarely looted. My best run was like 8 accelerators and 4 modules and only took 5 minutes
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>>555659671
the kettle "nerf" only affected cheating faggots who used clickmacros
it's functionally identical to before for any "normal" player
everything else is a valid complaint
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the game was released with zero expectations and it completely unexpectedly exploded in popularity overnight.
Now they have absolutely no fucking clue what they're doing, and are so terrified of accidentally killing the golden goose that every update is nothing but attempts to fix bugs, and tiny completely inconsequential changes and "wow it's fucking nothing" game modifiers.
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the nests have massive loot pool bonuses applied, you can very quickly collect multiple stacks of blue and purple trinkets without even going inside a building once - which ironically makes it a really nice place to farm the "normal" hotspots since everyone is ignoring them in favor of nests
shame the schedule is full-retard and never available for most working adults' schedules
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>>555661424
I sit at the gate and then when it opens I snaphook up to the bridge and manage to get most of the stuff in reception before anyone else. If im in ratkanda I just sit up there and kill anyone who comes to the gate or leaves the gate.
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>bettina should be dropped a tier to blue
>a new semi-auto scoped rifle should replace it as the purple "heavy ammo" weapon
there, heavy ammo weapon progression issue resolved
it's such a dogshit gun, the _only_ use is stripping armor from boss arc quickly if you don't want to risk an equalizer
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all of the "locked (area)" missions are fucking cancer that directly benefit campers and rats instead of the people actually completing the objectives, it's so goddamned dumb
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>hullcracker has an underbarrel slot
>osprey has an underbarrel slot
>ferro has an underbarrel slot
>the only energy weapon with mod slots is the aphelion, and it's legitimately terrible even with them
FOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE
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remember folks dont snitch and fly. not only is it illegal but you put yourself and others in danger
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also the grip is completely useless, there's no reason to use it
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>>555660358
I would say it’s a good thing that kettle got nerfed but I genuinely wonder if ask you people claiming it’s just cheaters with macros are delusional
I can click 12 times per second sustained over 5 seconds, I never focused on getting this result but I do have a good mouse (finalmouse ulx)
Still, thinking most people believe anything past 9 clicks per second is macros is funny
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I agree, but until pinks get buffed, shields get buffer, and venator/toro get tweaked (why does the 2 tap up to 20meter shotgun need 8 bullets and a 6+ mag attachment?) all they did was reduce the meta by 1 weapon.
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I think its macros if they also have perfect aim. I can do high CPS, but my mouse shakes all over the damn place because jitter clicking is just some stupid minecraft meme where the person you are clicking on takes up 80% of your screen. When someone does over 8cps on me while I'm running 20-30 meters away, taking up less than 5% of their screenspace, that nigger is either macro cheating or aimbot cheating.
Also what about controller players? I can get like 15cps on a controller bumper, so all of those players got nerfed as well.
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weapon and equipment balance across the board is dogshit
no headshot multipliers should be applied while shields are active
explosive damage should not leak through to the HP bar while shields are active
shields need to soak more damage / be more effective overall
those changes alone would improve things by massively boosting TTK, and allow them breathing room to actually start fucking balancing weapons
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gonna be hotshot baby! just have to maintain and I'll get that sweet outfit color
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Shields don't "soak" damage, they reduce your incoming damage by a percentage. When the shield goes down you lose the incoming damage reduction.
Heavy shields are a 50% reduction already. The issue is that you don't understand how shields are MEANT to work. They're not an extra health bar.
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Im getting real tired of that indian freak spamming this shit in every thread
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I don't understand how people have a hard time seeing this, either they're too Fortnite-brained or what. I shoot a dude with a gun that deals 100 damage, he has a shield with 50% damage reduction, my bullet now does 50 damage until that shield breaks. boom simple.
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i personally cant recall any games that have shields that only apply as a damage reduction. shields typically are a second health bar. honestly thats on embark for just calling them shields instead of dampener shields or something like that heck theres not even anywhere in game that specifies how they work outside of experiencing it.
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Again, I just assume its people who come in from other games expecting shields to work the same way they always do. Logically, it makes more sense for them to work how they do in Arc Raiders.
Shields are great at a few things, like preventing one shots, giving a reason for magazine upgrades to exist beyond PvE reasons and actually allowing you to react rather than dying in literally half a second.
This game's got a pretty fast time to kill yea, but people I think really don't understand the obvious ways to succeed based on the way the game is set up.
Heavy shields will help against shotguns and explosives, they will not really help against light/medium fire weaponry, in fact nearly none of the shields will stop a Stitcher/rapid fire gun from melting you. If you're unsure as to which the best way to kill someone is, its using a rapid fire weapon that has a large magazine or using explosives to break the shields or wear them down enough (hence why people run triggers/il toro/anvil/stitcher all the time) and then killing them as fast as possible.
If they were to make shields a second health bar then this game would basically be night and day between those who don't have them and those that do, and you'd be stupid for not carrying the heavy shield around with you. It would also mean fights would take forever since shield regen is faster and you don't need a blueprint for surge rechargers as opposed to bandages which heal slowly over time, fabric which is even slower than Arc Powercells and Vita shots would be even more useless than they already kinda are.
It would also make PvE even more of a joke than it is right now.
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If people go 10 hours in and don't know how shields work then its their fault, you're told there is a direct damage reduction with values, you're can visually see your health decrease even with shields. Of all the things people can complain about, misunderstanding how shields work is not it.
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Holy fuck I miss chungartha.
>Running around with free kit
>Random guy runs towards me and says "Friendly" but the second I turn around he start shooting me
>Run into building
>Other guy breaching into something shoots me
>the two of them shoot me instead of each other
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>>555671285
i mean sure it tells you there is a damage reduction but again usually that applies to the shields health until the shield breaks in most game. but as you said it does show your health going down but i bet most people dont notice that right away and just think its damage that was carried over from their shield breaking. i believe in games like fortnite thats how it works your shield breaks from a sniper and any excess damage carries over to your health.
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Most retarded augment, why the fuck would I need trinket slots? Also always being scared that I will not have time to save my gun, I hate this.
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It's crazy how incompetent these devs manage to be, on top of everything else now people are
>Loading up full loadout of anything high value with a buddy
>Have said buddy teamkill you
>Report him
>He then goes and cheats and gets a temp ban
>You get all the items back effectively duping them
Add this on top of the fact you can family share to circumvent bans, seriously what the fuck are these devs doing
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>>555672725
>Doesn't let you use gun from safe pocket
Bravo swedes
>Trinket slots over more regular slots despite the best use case for this augment being bringing an expensive gun for PvEing boss arcs
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medium and heavy shields really need a buff against these god damn free kit rats this shit is really making me tired
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I just got it bros and all it cost me was a blowjob
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>Am extreme pvp-er
>queue Stella solo to look for expedition components
>go down to extract in the tunnels below the Bastion
>as Im about to round the last corner to that leads to the actual button panel my spidey sense starts going fucking bananas
>was looting up top for 3-4 min didnt hear shit down here
>sit on corner for 30 seconds
>remember I have a tagging grenade
>yeet that shit
>THREE PEOPLE RATTING THE CORNER IN S O L O S
>they start shooting but I get the fuck outta there
What the fuck is this?
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>>555676271
The TTK in this game is fucking awful, if you are facing competent people especially on PC if you get shot first you are DEAD 99% of the time barring the person shooting you gets an epileptic seizure mid shooting
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>>555676271
Should've had your aim trained on him and you shouldn't have let the dude have the most cover?
You have awful reaction time, your shield was near gone the by the time you reacted to him firing. You just suck.
Don't bother using an Anvil, use a shotgun with better reaction time/aim or use a god damn stitcher.
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Genuinely asking everyone what is their opinion of the Stitcher? I think it's just pretty silly how over powered it is. It is arguably the best weapon for any situation that isn't PVE.
Other guns might theoretically be better, but the ease of use, low ammo of ammo necessary to make it good, etc, just makes it the best. Attachments make it even easier and better to use and it is a very comparably useful weapon even outside of close range. Even if you are shot 2nd, it's high ROF allows you to 'turn the tide' easily and if your enemy misses shots/is bad, you can very easily take them out. Extremely easy to craft and find (sometimes you can get free level 4 stitchers from supply drops!).
I find it strange they haven't nerfed the fuck out of this gun. Even against a heavy shield, it's a very good weapon. Why is it so good? I've probably been killed/have killed with the stitcher more than any other weapons in the game COMBINED
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>>555676271
Shields just need to be twice as good at all levels. If it takes 5 bullets to break a shield it should actually take 10. Idk the exact math but you can break a shield in like .3 seconds, which is so fast most human beings on earth can't react to it (average reaction time is like 250ms or something). It takes no skill to shoot first and land shots first and once your shield is gone you're in such a bad position (no shield, low HP) that your attacker has every advantage against you that you're pretty much already dead.
Fights should be more about skill and who can shoot better/have better tactics/etc. As it is, all that matters is shooting first.
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>>555680392
The problem is a combination of it being a low cost high dps weapon and this game's shields being absolute dogshit, you could be running a heavy shield and someone with a lvl 1 stitcher and a green mag will oneclip you if they start shooting first and arent braindead, I really do not understand what they were thinking when they made it so all guns go trough shields and health at the same time, that shit should be reserved to some pvp specific blue/epic gun that should be dog shit at killing arc or whatever, they either gotta change how shields work or make it so the stitcher has a chance to jam randomly because at this point there is literally no purpose using anyhthing else, I feel bad how many bodies I stack using this piece of shit
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>>555672725
this aug is garbo beans. one fucking safe slot? not even a dedicated slot for the gun + the one safe slot? id much rather bring any other pink augs and have more space, safe slots, and carry weight to carry more stuff than being able to save one gun.
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>>555681657
This is more of a case of "I guess" than anything else. I mean, I don't really know what to say? For example, if someone spawns, then another person spawns right behind them and shoots them in the back ASAP, is that really more "skillful"? Lets say you have the best player in the game and the worst player in the game, the worst player is sitting in a dark corner and is waiting for the other player. They run in and the bad player face fucks the best player with a stitcher and kills them, does that suddenly make them the best player? Or even just a totally random encounter, a player opens a door at the same time another was there too, one player has the stitcher (a grey weapon) and the other a renegade (a blue weapon); the guy with the stitcher is far more likely to win because it shoots faster, does more DPS, and is easier to use. That just really shouldn't be the case? There actually are many times (from your perspective and theirs) that you aren't "playing by the same rules" because of any number of factors.
There's too many random non-skill oriented questions here. If shields were better and the stitcher wasn't so good, I think most players would have a much better time with the PVP, ratting wouldn't be so good, and using a "low tier" weapon wouldn't be as prevalent. You would also see much more variety in the game with weapon use. I frankly don't think anyone of any skill, game time, or status, could argue why the stitcher needs to be where it is; anyone with half a brain can understand why it should be nerfed or at the very least changed for the better.
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>>555682152
Well unfortunately (in solos especially) this game is at the end of the day an extraction shooter, where the rat sitting in the dark with a """"tactically superior position""""" will mostly win the gunfight, the sad part is that the PVE in this game is so fun but doing it puts you at a huge disadvantage, I assume it will eventually degenerate into full Escape from Ratkov and thats it...
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>>555681657
>just dont ever move, enter a room, loot anything, stand outside, or do anything but sit in a corner where no one can appear behind you
Fuck off with this stupid ass nigger brained logic. You will NEVER be able to control EVERY single encounter no matter how well you play, how careful you are, how smart you are, or how much you "win the fight before the fight even started" faggot. There will always be a time where someone surprises you from behind and if that person shoots you first you will die with practically 0 counter play. It's fucking retarded and the game should have a better TTK and balance. You can still "win the fight before the fight even started" and have better positioning and situational awareness, but it won't be a completely free kill like it currently is and that's the best possible outcome. Now fuck off back to CoD if you want instant death twitch reflex shooting.
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I think the damage bleed trough shields is what will finally cause me to quit this game after 500 hours (which is a shit ton for a 40e game), I wanna know what fucking mongoloid thought this was a good idea and why, why re-invent the shield-health wheel, why?
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>felt pretty shit about being merk'd within 2 minutes of my first game of the day, seconds after finding an epic key
>next game
>find this in spawn room
Life's a rollercoaster huh
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>>555683274
>There will always be a time where someone surprises you from behind and if that person shoots you first you will die with practically 0 counter play
And whether you like it or not anon, that is the reality of the genre. That is, in fact, a part of this genre. You will, absolutely, be surprised by someone who comes out from behind you because that is the nature of an open map with numerous angles, with a million different tools at your disposal with unpredictable random spawns.
You can ONLY do so much in extraction shooters, survival shooters, in a majority of shooters if your guard is down then you are dead. In extraction shooters, the TTK is extremely fast, that's how its always generally been. You can only top up your shields so much, you can only cover yourself with nades and mines and barricades and god knows what else, eventually you're gonna die, everyone's gonna die.
Being careful, aware and alert might not always directly save you in a gunfight, some people are opportunists who will judge threats based on their awareness and if their guns are out, if they're looking in their direction, etc.
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The solo vs trios mode has to be the most retarded feature ever implemented in a game ever.
>trios can't opt out of it, meaning every trio lobby now has retards mixed in and you can now never be sure if someone is in a team or solo
>only gives xp, a completely useless thing, to the solo even though the risk is exponentially higher than solos due to trios being able to delete you in 0.05s instead of 0.5 seconds
>trios can revive in 1.5s, solos cannot revive at all (this mode would literally be fine in a permadeath game like dark and darker or tarkov, but not in arc raiders)
>solos don't have to have any minimum loadout, meaning freekits and naked fags just wanting to loot are going to start abusing this shit like mad sooner or later which just ruins the game even more
>splits the solo playerbase for no reason causing longer queue times
They put literally 0 thought into this. The person who came up with it and the lead who greenlit it should both be fired. Holy fuck I can't believe how retarded these devs are.
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>streamers (mostly peanut) trying to hype up the burletta with the last hotfix
>turn on a logitech macro for the first time and go to the firing range
>burletta at it's fastest speed still kills slower than the stitcher on the dummies and has a lower headshot mod than the stitcher so even that doesn't matter
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it just makes trio lobbies even easier for trios because from what I gathered, you aren't actually adding on solos to an already "full" lobby of trios. Trio slots are replaced in entirety by solo players
so suddenly people who play as trios have a distinct advantage on the playing field. It essentially makes for clubbing seals for trios, and trios are going to shoot solos on sight anyway, legitimately NO reason for them not to.
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>have only heavy gun parts for the longest time
>raider cache event is literally never up whenever im on (i still believe a 2x event or mini event should be up on all maps at all times of day fucking embark)
>start to give up on ever finding mgp and lgp bps
>post trades up on metaforge
>load into a raid right after
>find them back to back in medical bags
I see we're doin a bit of trollin
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>>555688859
Cheaters have ESP to look at loot and other player's weapons anon why in the world would they go into trios to obviously flaunt them cheating? Most cheaters want some plausable deniability. That's the skill. They're more likely to be killed in trios via bullshit too, its a lose-lose for cheaters.Also you queue with cheaters when you fill squad.
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>>555689328
>yo dude i meta'd to chungartha in solos so now i get into the trio bot lobbies instead of the high skilled ones
Okay? Those players were legitimately terrible. I'll admit he was high skilled and used utility to great effect, but those players were just standing in place with anvils.
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How do people like Shroud and tfue even have audiences when they have the personality of cardboard? Is it just esports worship or something? There are better players than them that also have no personalities like Shinya, Brad, aimkey, etc but they have basically no viewership compared to these guys. At least Peanut is funny, Ninja is riding the coattails of his own career, and Gingy is a cute girl.
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just killed some chungus for all of his loot because I was frustrated and he came into my looting area.
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>>555697727
I fucking hate these moral arbiters who go around chungus lobbies doing this crap. I convinced one to kill someone totally innocent one time and he was on his high horse as the high was saying he did nothing wrong (I killed 3 people before he finally figure out it was me killing everyone).
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Despite their constant moral high horsing over pixels chungarthians are genuinely bloodthirsty and need and outlet to get a kill here and there, if they see a chance to kill someone for something "justified" they will, hence why so often you'll be defending yourself from a rat in chungartha, down him, and then some faggot leddit warrior of justice sprints over to try to be the "good guy"
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>>555669743
no anon, I am fully aware of how shields work, and my post doesn't contradict that at all
in the context of this game, "soaking more damage" means having more shield health, and attenuating a higher percentage of incoming damage while that health remains
>>555672725
it's fucking dumb and pointless
a better aug would have been one with a dedicated musical instrument augmented slot and 2x safe pockets
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>>555698331
So a rat fuck can't have it? Are you dumb? Plus they sell for 5k. If I don't find a decent person to give a dupe to, I'm not going to let a fucking rat have it. Wolfpacks and keys are dime a dozen. BPs aren't. Dumby. Idiot.
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Oh I'm not that anon but in general i find it good practice to stash pocket BPs
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wonder if its time to do the trials, or if I should wait another day
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>>555699486
the best time to start trials is wed-thurs shortly after typical dinner time for your region
that gets you in the "working adult player" more casual queue like >>555651870
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>>555700009
I've been trying to join at different times just to get general idea and get the worst luck later in the day, my mid-day joins seem to be fine
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>>555700306
when you do a trial it places you sequentially on a leaderboard with other people just starting to the trials
by waiting for later in the week, the goal is to avoid the sweat leaderboards filled with trios that "abuse" the scoring system to get a high score
so far seems like the worst days to join the leaderboards are the first 2 days, and retarddit hasn't caught onto this yet, so you don't have too many sweats "exploiting" this, generally you get put on a list of 99 other players that either aren't paying attention to the leaderboards, or can't farm high scores because of how little they can play, it's just get the 3* and move on. and I've had leaderboards that reflected that where the bottom 50 are all <20k (20k is average for full 3* trials and stopping)
and al lthe demoted players were <4k, meaning they probably didn't even try that week
if you get on the leaderboard early or during a time where sweats are playing, it can be filled with 100k+ scores from people farming trios
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fyi it's gonna get easier in hotshot because the ranking is global instead of retarded individual brackets, you need to be top 30% to keep the rank.
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>>555701370
It's a lot smoother, I'm doing basic bitch trial runs with almost no sweat and it's enough
This week I just did a good run for bastions/leapers/rocketeers on ems dam and played the game as normal the rest of the week.
I'll probably do night stella with buddies for pops and call it a day.
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>Game has amazing gameplay, stealth, and loot mechanics
Holy fucking KINO.
>Game crashes every 30 minutes even while in the workshop
Holy fucking shit. How do I get this fucking game to stop crashing all the time? For reference, I'm running the game on linux mint, and I heard that the game is not optimized for linux because of their anti-cheat software. Also I heard there was a DDOS attack on servers the last few days, I assume that has something to do with the random crashing?
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ok I got position 8/73
my leaderboard is still filling
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if anyone cares
my leaderboard finished populating
the top 13 at the moment
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>>555707438
this exact thing happened to me on spaceport
>spawn late
>"oh I'll go check out the Security Breaches"
>go to the first one all the way to the east
>head up the zip
>land
>guy starts firing at me
>"I'm not shooting, I'm not shooting, I'm friendly, dude chill out I'm friendly"
>he has to reload and didn't kill me
>consider running out the window and rolling away
>but I had 5 health and it would be more embarrassing if I died that way
>make a gamble, "Dude, I'm friendly"
>he finishes reloading
>downs me
>I lost the gamble
>immediately runs up to punch me
>as I'm getting knocked he tries to say "Sucks to suck"
>but he stuttered and obviously was stressed out, so it came out
>"S-suck to suck, sucks to suck..."
>obviously some indian child
>watch the vid back
>whole room was unlooted so he very likely was just sitting there waiting to kill someone
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>>555708173
its annoying but I get the whole "its just a game" mentality
someone probably did that to him and he wanted to get revenge, its ok, I'll be the raider that breaks the cycle of hatred
really I was just sharing a similar experience I had
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>>555708518
>someone probably did that to him and he wanted to get revenge, its ok, I'll be the raider that breaks the cycle of hatred
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>>555705509
the game is so absurdly popular it's hard to believe you don't know anyone else who plays it
it doesn't even have to be a good friend, just offer them a nice blueprint or some resources to facilitate the muling if needed
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>>555708023
if you ever really REALLY want to make pajeets go into a full fucking nuclear meltdown, just call them pakistani
like "hey bro chill chill I'm a friend to Pakistan I like Pakistanis we're cool right brother?"
"oh you sounded like a friend I have in Pakistan"
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>>555707438
>Chad executes flawless ambush tactics used IRL against a PvE-only fag
Lol. Lmao.
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>Should've had your aim trained on him and you shouldn't have let the dude have the most cover?
>you played it poorly. just run behind cover retard.
Dafuq you mean the most cover they both were standing in the open. Also while they didn't have their aim directly on them he still was pretty close and atleast keeping an eye instead of running by blindly.
>You have awful reaction time, your shield was near gone the by the time you reacted to him firing
That encounter was barely 3 seconds long too.
>Don't bother using an Anvil, use a shotgun with better reaction time/aim or use a god damn stitcher.
If I had to hazard a guess they were probably doing a trial in chungartha.
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see >>555624994
flanking is actual dogshit though, don't bother
just wear a surv3 with a medium shield - pistols already swap extremely fast - it would have made more sense for flanking to boost non-pistol swap speed
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>cheat
meh, the game does not prevent you from taking blueprints back into a raid, or dropping blueprints within a raid, so trading or muling them is patently not cheating
downloading a cracked version obviously is though (not the trading with yourself part)
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I might have fucked up
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>>555704358
Just realized with this post the devs are helping blueprint RMTs for china. Enable farming for the chinese prisoners to mass produce blueprints of all kinds, then cut off the valve. After various tuning and nerfing of spawn rates and multiple expeditions these blueprints will retain value to be sold for more money than real merchandise. Once money goes to China it doesn't come back out, big bucks combined with cheat subscriptions for idiots that throw their lunch money out to cheat and escape their misery for the dollar.
Americans vendor their BPs, chinamen sell them for real money.
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>bored and go to stella montis night raid
>decide to stalk a clearly new and skittish player
>drop him an aphelion blueprint
>"omg omg thank you wow a blueprint holy shit wow"
>he immediately books it to the nearest extract with 28 minutes left
godspeed fella
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>>555718062
the current trophy case event is a good way to handle it, but every green gun/kit/consumable blueprint should be a quest reward
and let people keep praying to the RNG gods for blue/purple/yellow blueprints
>>555720239
it's not weird at all, they want the game to be more casual friendly because "most" people don't want to deal with the cancer that is every other extraction shooter
>>555720292
that's one of the best parts of being deep in the PVE queue, you get a lot of newbros who are terrified of getting killed so they sneak around the map looting after everyone has already gone through and gotten everything good, and they go nuts whn you toss them guns or blueprints
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>buried city
>near south extract in a building
>hear someone on mic say they are friendly at extract
>other person responds well what if im not what if i just kill you right now
>start hearing gunfire
>run over to check
>first person obliterated the what if guy
>yeah this guy was being weird didnt want to risk it
>no problem i heard the whole thing
>they extract
>to other people show up
>is everything alright here
>yeah this guy was being weird and someone else killed them
>oh ok lets go kill a bastion
love chungartha
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The semi PvP semi PvE matchmaking is the best, it's got everyone on edge and allows for real goofy interactions.
>running around Stella solo
>come around corner and see a guy just standing there
>aim at him and ask if he's chill
>pulls out his hammer, turns around and starts smacking burner while getting set in fire
>runs off still on fire
>silent the entire time
Godspeed madlad.
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>>555721321
>it's not weird at all, they want the game to be more casual friendly because "most" people don't want to deal with the cancer that is every other extraction shooter
in my mind it wouldn't affect a casual player, if they learned the blueprint then they have it and dont need to re-find it, maybe I'm just missing the downsides
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Why the fuck are rocketeers so stealthy? They're 5x the size of wasps yet make no fucking noise and are somehow just as fast. They're literally the only Arc I die to since they keep randomly popping off behind me somehow.
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>They're literally the only Arc I die to since they keep randomly popping off behind me somehow
There is a bug, where Arc will just spawn in without coming out of the sky, this happened to me a few times now and I'm suspecting this is whats happening
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I exclusively get myself to Chungartha just to rat those pussies lmao. Half the time you don't even need to shoot, just wait for those chuds to die to the Matriarch and then "accidentally" knock them out while saying in prox chat "ah man this guy died to the Matriarch before I could defib him". Kek
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>>555723460
if I understand your original meaning, there would essentially be a new version of every blueprint for every wipe, no?
venator.season1
venator.season2
venator.season3
etc
that gets fucky really fast, and adds up to a substantial amount of overhead, and what about people who don't do the reset at all? do they find "blueprint.theirseason" or "blueprint.currentseason"?
lots of downsides I see for no real benefit
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>>555724852
you should be able to easily get 2 kills per run on dam, if not more, assuming "leapers" aren't in the current trials rotation
just bring a hullcracker and a couple of stacks of ammo, or a couple of stacks of trailblazers
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>>555729492
yea, but if you learn the blueprint, then its not like it resets for a casual player, you still have access to it, but if you do the expedition now you are forced to learn the "new" blueprints, instead of someone trading you a bunch
basically just update the consumable every expedition, but obviously don't make people have to relearn them for the workshop
its literally just to stop blueprint hoarding/trading
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>>555729801
why bother stopping it though? what's the actual benefit?
gear balance is so dogshit that the only actually valuable/relevant blueprints are purely for comfort - snaphook, surv3, defib, vitaspray etc
>>555730127
deadlines are nice for killing big arc very fast, they do a fuckton of damage on a 6 second timer after being placed
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>>555715350
>That encounter was barely 3 seconds long too.
Yes, and anon's shield and all his damage resistance was lost the moment he actually had his CROSSHAIR on him. Anon fucking got shot, looked back at the guy shooting him, LOOKED AWAY and then came back again ready to place his crosshair anywhere close.
It would be a different situation if anon was carrying a stitcher/bobcat/temp but they were carrying an Anvil that requires you can place your shots, ideally headshots. If you're relying on your snap aim to carry you in an encounter then you need better awareness and you need better cover.
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>>555734251
>stella
Oh. You poor soul.
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>>555733768
>freekitting
anon, a ferro 4 and a stack of heavy ammo is only ~13k credits at the trader
adding a light shield (which you can use without an augment) is just another ~2k credits
buying a looter1 is just another ~2k on top of that
stop gimping yourself with a freekit that doesn't even have an ass pocket
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>>555689328
>first guy shoots him once with a rattler(maybe ferro?) then just fucks off
>no one pushes when they hear triggers
>anvils close range
>no secondary for cqc like toro or stitcher
>use heavy fuze grenades instead of triggers
>two players looking in a completely different direction
>team shooting nonexistent
>that player who missed every anvil shot except 1
>same player had the easiest shot ever when they saw op climbing up ledge and didn't shoot for some reason
at least the snaphook into smoke was cool
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>>555734610
wew, that's crazy
I don't think I've ever dropped below 100k after finishing the final stash expansion
is this why pvpers are always so angry? they're ...poors?
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>>555735829
both actual dogshit
there is no realistic use case for either
>built in defib on a 5 minute timer hurr
>only 1 ass pocket but it can hold a gun hurrrrr
we got that shit instead of an aug with a dedicated musical instrument slot, which would at least be nominally "neat"
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>grey weapons are hecking best! muh kettle! muh stitcher! muh ferro!
Lol lmao even good luck to every free kit scrub trying to kill me running Torrente + Tactical Mk2 + Medium shield.
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>>555741238
>maternal family tree is polish & irish
>paternal family tree is german and scottish
>pale white skin, dark blonde hair, light green eyes
>playing on a midrange gaming PC at 2k 144hz
oh yeah anon, totally brown, you caught me!
kill yourself
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>>555737267
>safe pocket for a legendary weap/hullcracker AND heavy shields on a looter kit has "no realistic use case"
I'm never gonna use it personally, but you'd have to be dumb as rocks to say what you just said and mean it
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>>555741864
it makes legendary weapons more viable at every level of ABMM merely by existing. players have been asking for it more than they've been asking for a "bard augment" or whatever. it's also a handy kit for cleaning out shredders in stella montis, since the hullcracker works great on them and heavy shields let you tank a third shotgun hit. you're just a terminal contrarian who can only perceive the world through the lens of petty criticism
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>>555741482
It makes huge difference because it has almost doubled charge capacity compared to light which means you take reduced damage for longer.
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Holy fuck people can't read and it shows.
The benefits of medium shields is that the damage resistance lasts longer than the light. 2.5% damage resistance is nothing, much like 5% movement speed (which is decreased with the skill anyway)
I swear half this general probably priortizes their shield rather than health
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>>555703282
Hey Raider, wanna team up?
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>>555743497
>t. brainless retard
>>555743575
>1-2 extra shots from a weapon with 720 RPM
>0.08s - 0.16s extra lifetime
Automatic weapons DO NOT FUCKING CARE about your shields. Mediums work well against high-damage low-rof stuff because of the extra charge.
It's an advantage sure, but it's so miniscule it makes close to no diff.
Getting chipped once on a reposition already nullifies that advantage, and getting ambushed or getting shot first makes you wonder why the fuck did you wear those shields in the first place.
You have a much higher chance of turning a fight against a stitcherfag by abusing TPP while he pushes you into cover, not by equipping better shields.
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>>555744091
You are assuming 100% accuracy with zero conditions like lines of sight or engagement positions. Medium shield provides a tangible benefit against Stitcher users - Not enough for me to use it personally but it's definitely not useless.
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>>555742940
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>>555744281
I am assuming solo PvP where your gear is worth jack shit because of how combat works there due to initiative.
In trios? Different story because the combined increased longevity for the team is actually worth a damn because you have cover from allies.
Heavy shields still suck ass fucking balls outside of stella only if you meet toro spammers because it allows you to live a 3rd shot.
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>the stitcher is broken! you can't react to it and you don't have any counterplay
>"anon the shields reduce incoming damage so you have more time to react than if you didnt have shields"
>sure its an advantage but its so miniscule
Maybe you just have bad positioning then? Most people are not running heavy shields, you have a higher damage resistance than they do, so you do have more time to react and melt them down.
If you're complaining about EVERYONE using a stitcher then use one yourself and get the drop on people. If you're complaining that you can't fight back then use the Stitcher with the damage resistance from the heavy/medium shields as your buffer.
You being caught out, unaware and not paying attention to sound is what gets you killed, not the shields sucking.
Constant fucking complaining from people in this general against rock-solid numbers and verifyable proof of how the game works who don't understand how to use the tools given to them effectively and don't know the very basics of holding cover.
"waaahh people holding angles and sitting in corners" while they absolutely refuse to hold angles themselves and cover and run out into the open to open a container and get shot in the back.
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>>555744968
I'm not that anon but they aren't wrong either, free kitters don't have IV stitchers nor do they have any attachments. 20 rounds, unless they are literally hitting every shot on you (in which case you are standing still or being shot in the back while you loot), they WILL have to reload. If they decide to bring in an IV stitcher with attachments? Sure, I think its broken too. Free kitters don't have them.
You are bad at shooters anon.
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>>555744861
Headshots exist, anon, i've killed plenty of heavy shield users with a freenig kit in a mag, didn't help them one bit.
If the headshot multiplier wasn't as retarded as it is (2.5x) I would agree.
>>555744850
>gear doesn't matter
Isn't this EXACTLY what the other people are fucking talking about?
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>>555745395
headshots/hoeadshot damage shouldn't be a thing if the target's shield is active
that would directly buff medium and heavy shields without needing to touch anything else about them and meaningfully increase TTKs
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>>555745246
He doesnt have to mag dump you, if he even makes half of his shots to your body, youre at such a disadvantage even with pink or blue gear that as soon as he reloads and pushes you, youre dead. I would like heavier shields to take more than an extra 2 and 4 bullets than the lightest shield but idk thats just me.
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>>555745635
No, you should be rewarded for headshots anytime, just not as much as we are now.
Rescale the headshot mods from 1.35x-2x instead of 1.5x-2.5x and bump shield deflect by ~10% across the board.
>>555745648
I would rather have heavy shields have slows me down by 25% but makes me a tank than these insignificant "upgrades".
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>>555745395
Blaming the gear and items in the game for not covering your own faults of just being completely unaware is a different argument.
Yes, the gear (overall) really at the moment doesn't matter. That doesn't mean that the gear gives you more time to react, higher survivability and an advantage against other players.
>>555745648
Yes anon in a game where TTK is this fast, whoever shoots and lands as many shots on the other player first will win.
The point is that you should either be engaging the other player first or you should be reacting fast enough so your buffer matters.
10 rounds of the Stitcher to your body is not a fault of the shields or the items/gear in game, its the fault of you being unaware, standing still or being up close to someone.
Unless you are running through a hallway in Stella or get caught in a blind spot/height advantage, it is YOUR fault though, your are at a disadvantage because of YOUR own actions. Jesus christ, detach yourself from shields and whatever rarity gear and imagine it was just 100HP for everyone. Shields are a damage resistance buff, you should play the same way you would without shields. Cautiously.
See someone running around like a headless chicken in Stella medical? Unless they're about to pull exploits out their ass with an Il Toro, you have the advantage by shooting at them first. Do it.
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>>555694231
>Beta male doesn't understand beta behavior. Alphas do not beg- Alphas do not negotiate you dumb, cock sucking fuck.
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>>555746169
>Jesus christ, detach yourself from shields and whatever rarity gear and imagine it was just 100HP for everyone.
Retard the entire conversation is about how worthless the higher tier gear is relative to their rarity. No shit the answer will always boil down to
>git gud
but this entire discussion is how little these things protect you compared to some bum wearing the cheapest gear. 2 bullets. TWO BULLETS. That is such a tiny advantage its laughable. TWO(2)!
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>>555746148
Fuck man. I cant catch an apartment spawn during night raid to save my life.
Still missing Wolf Pack.
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>>555746731
Anon, if you meet a stitcher user as a stitcher user, same health but different shields, who do you think is going to win?
The answer, the one who shoots first
The answer on paper, the one with the better shields
You wanna win against the bum wearing the cheapest gear? Shoot first. Be the instigator. That's the whole point of having the better gear.
Its that or accept you are going to die, which is a natural part of the game.
Free kits do not have the resources to heal/recharge unless you die for them or they kill Arc. And them fighting Arc is a perfect opportunity for you to kill them first.
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>>555747015
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>>555744091
You're looking at it from perspective of tanking entire mag in your face which isn't how every encounter goes down. You take damage, reposition, pop rechargers and bandages. This is where the advantage is. I get 70 hp with medium + I can pop blue recharger for another 50 hp in 5sec. That's total 120 hp of 42% damage mitigation. Yeah man totally "JUST ONE MORE BULLET".
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>>555747739
Nigger.
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>>555747126
>That's the whole point of having the better gear.
The point of better gear is for it to be better significantly, not
>errrhhmmmm actually it is better by two more bullets!
I should be able to tank an additional 10 more bullets at the minimum at blue and another 7 at purple. not 4 bullets max.
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>>555747906
Are you the beta male cuck?
Amazing
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*coughs up blood* solo grouping when...
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>>555748132
>you usually just take damage and die
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>>555748028
okay so now the Arc and everything PvE related is a total fucking joke more than it already is in this game and when you shoot someone when they weren't looking out for themselves, had bad positioning, had no awareness, they have even more of a chance to kill you.
congratulations you fixed nothing
>>555748132
skill issue
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>>555748319
oh its the schizo trolls
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>>555748360
concession accepted, have a good day anon
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>>555748319
>of a chance to kill you.
well yes, thats the point of better gear, significantly increase your chance of survival with no skill on your part. thank you for finally understanding. and if we have both equal gear and skill, if i get shot first i should lose 100% of the time. but if we have both equal skill but different gear and i shoot the better gear, i should only equalize the playing field, not have an advantage.
because if the better gear isnt better in a looter shooter, then do away with rarity levels entirely.
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>>555748132
That's why you take Tactical Mk2 >>555739735
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>>555748568
Yea and the gear in game provides benefits for you.
"Skill" is much more than being able to aim, its your positioning and your awareness. Now, you clearly lack awareness so you may wanna work on that, its why you're losing your gear all the time.
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>>555748738
>Yea and the gear in game provides benefits for you.
pink shield tanking an addtional 4 bullets is not a good benefit. bobcat and tempest being straight up worse is not even 1% of a benefit, its just worse. legendary guns being shitty is not a benefit. my pink and blue gear should be 10x better than they are now.
you keep bringing up skill when that isnt the discussion, its how worthless the higher tier gear is compared to its rarity vs the lower level stuff which is usually 95% just as good or outright better.
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>>555748951
Nigger you keep neglicting the fact you suck ass.
Everyone knows the rarity guns above uncommon suck apart from the Renegade and Venator. It takes one or two uses of them to clock that in. That's never been my position. This entire time we've been talking about shields, not guns. Shields are the biggest direct benefit in terms of rarity that you can carry.
You don't seem to understand that there IS a difference between the player who runs light shields in comparison to heavy/medium. It does provide benefit. Go ahead, run light shields if you want but you'll melt in front of people. Run no shield even if you want! Do it.
If the gear provides no benefit at all then why are you running shields?
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>>555748320
Reddit is that way kiddo.
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>>555748951
>bobcat and tempest being straight up worse
ACCORDING TO WHO? You? The person who's proven to not be great at pvp?
That's whats so funny to me. So many of you Low IQ retards will bitch and cry about streamers being posted, but also be the worse players because you didn't learn how to play better from any of the pvper content creators.
How do you think you're going to get better if you don't learn from people who can play better than you? FYI I don't think there's any big streamers who will agree with you that the tempest and bobcat are worse or that blue shields don't matter vs green shields.
Maybe you are just fucking stupid and or ignorant and bad at the game.
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>>555749308
>no benefit
> is not a good benefit
i said not a GOOD benefit, i should be able to tank more. read, can you do this simple task?
>its how worthless the higher tier gear is compared to its rarity vs the lower level stuff which is usually 95% just as good or outright better.
you melt just as fast in your blue compared to green. 2 triggers to the face across the board, explain to me how that is a good benefit? blues dying to 2 torro shots same as a green. explain how that is a good benefit? purple tanking a whopping one more torro shot at the cost of being slow, in a game where everything is already slow and being slower puts you at a significant disadvantage.
those are not good benefits. tanking a couple more bullets to the face is not a good benefit. of course in pvp you always take the shield that grants you more bullets even if its half a bullet but the entire point is that half bullet is SHITTY. get that through your thick skull.
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>>555749705
>ACCORDING TO WHO? You? The person who's proven to not be great at pvp?
Everyone. Stitcher is actually better at mid-range than the tempest and bobcat, can beam heads all day long while the other two bloom hard as fuck. Bobcat gets an edge face to face but at that point you're whipping out your torro anyways which completely mogs a bobcat unless your standing in an area with no cover.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LtFaofzhIvQ
this is what happens when you are a rat pvper in chungartha (who is also brown) and it happens almost every time i see a flare that is caused by another shitskin pvping on chungartha.
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>>555749863
Are you fucking stupid? Heavy shields absolutely make a difference.
Again, does this general understand anything about how basic fucking math works? You can tank MORE SHOTS. You can decrease incoming damage more from all sources. The cost is genuinely not even that much. If 2 voltage converters, the easiest fucking material in the game to get is too much for you and opening one arc probe proves difficult for you then stop playing the game.
Anvil does 50 damage. Cut it in half with heavy shields. You can take another Anvil shot before the shield breaks. You can't on light. Goes for a bunch more guns like the Ferro, shotguns, explosives.
The heavy shield is literally the best option if you're trying to cover yourself against what, 3/4 of the most used items in the game (triggers, anvil, il toro).
This general is full of people who've never played an extraction shooter and it fucking shows. From the absolute drivel of "i should be able to cover up for being absolutely dogshit with my high rarity items" to "ARC Circuitry is just too expensive to get".
>wahhh i dont WANT an advantage in my game especially not this low-cost benefit that has near no drawback
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>blapping a bastion with chill randos in solo
>go down to loot it and there's one guy down
>"anyone got a defib?"
>no one does
>"well enjoy I guess" *dies*
>carrying a hull cracker, heavy shield, looting 3, 4 wolf packs, and an Anvil IV
I don't know why you were loaded for the fucking apocalypse on normal buried city based rando, but I shall use them in good health.
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>>555749825
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>>555749685
>terrible general for a terrible game
Like your mum's gaping asshole but you dont hear me complaining
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>>555750585
>blabbering about stats and math
>"anvil does 50 damage"
LMAO
>"heavy shields are useful against anvil"
>gets cracked in 2 shots same as medium
>"heavy shields are useful against triggers"
>dies to 2 triggers same as every other shield
Kek
>completely ignores the 15% slowdown
You are retarded.
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>>555750279
>don't fix the core of the problem by making all the legs lootable
>nerf loot across the board so the rat niggers sitting directly under it with a cloak on get absolutely everything now instead of just most of the loot
every change makes me more and more convinced the devs are legitimately retarded
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>>555750780
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>Cuck.
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>>555751017
>15% slowdown
Literally does not matter. You can take it down to 7.5% with skills you should have already. If you're not running those then you've exposed how fucking stupid you are.
>gets cracked in 2 shots
And you take less health damage because the percentage it takes off is 50%, not 42.5%, which is 2.5% more than the light, which is fucking nothing.
So, are you pretending to be retarded at this point? Because at this point I have to believe you're just being retarded on purpose.
>>555751160
Genuinely some people are so committed to the idea of higher rarity things being bad that everything higher rarity must be bad, that's the only way I can rationalize it. Guns? No one would argue. Shields? Augments? Literally the two things that justify their rarity (at least some of the augments).
Some people overrate how difficult it is to craft things. Augments are cheap as fuck. Shields are cheap as fuck, you genuinely just have to grab 2 voltage converters and if you don't want to open a single probe then shoot down some Arc and go run Stella or any map. You'll get Advanced Electric Components easily. Genuienly, they're so easy to get.
Heavy shields don't even require BPs. They're not a grind.
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>>555752323
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>>555752486
You can't even get basic shit such as breakpoints or weapon stats correctly in multiple instances while still arguing for sufficient gear advantages.
Why the fuck would I even try to entertain your bullshit?
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>>555752918
>back to his "muh practicality and muh skill" delusions despite everyone talking about gear being shit
You're not worth the keyframes spent on editing out my allies nicknames.
Bugger off fag.
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>>555753087
NTA, but to be fair an extra anvil/toro shot does make a difference, the only time shields actually give you some form of notable advantage is when they go against high-damage low-rof weaponry because ~0.8s of TTK is significant comparative to ~0.08s.
Fag's delusional about everything else though.
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>>555752749
Go ahead, run your shit and keep playing at a disadvantage anon for literally no other reason than "its too expensive to shoot a couple of arc and loot like 2 server racks".
>>555753087
Yes, 7.5% speed reduction doesn't matter if you're taking it in the assumption you're going to be in PvP. What actually matters in fights is holding cover, angles, rolls and smokes/utilities and who has first shot. 7.5% more movement speed will not save you in a fight. Another player needing to land another Anvil? Il Toro? Yes, that matters.
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>>555752451
That's just borderline p2w game design territory. Better gear shouldn't be a deciding factor in who wins the fight. I'd even argue that's why most people are actually satisfied playing Arc Raiders. Medium and Heavy shields don't actually provide a lot of advantage for a bad player who stands still like a dummy at firing range and dies trying to win DPS race. What you get is more capacity for a health management. Light shield is often out after just 1 fight.
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>>555753615
>What actually matters in fights is holding cover, angles, rolls and smokes/utilities and who has first shot.
And that movement speed applies to everything, your running your rolls your sliding. It absolutely matters. Why do you think all the streamers roll a blue and not pink? Someone like Tfue or Cloakzy? Dont tell me you are better than those guys too. Speed allows you to get that better positioning which in your own words is king, first shot matters and speed allows that. Being a tick slower matters a whole fucking lot more than an extra 2 stitcher bullets.
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>>555754298
NTA 4k coins is like searching one unopened container
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>>555753997
>Better gear shouldn't be a deciding factor in who wins the fight.
Then do away with colors. Better gear being a deciding factor is the extraction shooter mantra. Otherwise what the fuck am I looting for? For fun? I want better gear.
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>>555754393
If you're doing heavy PvP, you're not usually opening containers or filling up your inventory with per-slot-efficient loot.
I did a lot of heavy shield runs on stella for a 2 week period, and that extra cost stacked up quickly reducing my profit margins from raids even if I was extracting.
Mediums are the best shields in the game both practically and economically, it's not contestable.
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>jupiter
pretty neat gun, it should have a holo dot optic though
>equilizer
also neat, the windup is a bit annoying though
neither are worth the crafting and upkeep cost and giant glowing "lol come gank me" sign they project over your head - a burletta strips armor "almost" as good
>>555753997
>p2w
stop using words you don't understand, it makes you look even more retarded than fucking frogposting does
>>555755397
kill yourself streamsucking nigger
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>>555754174
Yea I'm not better than those guys. What, maybe 2% of the playerbase is better than those guys? They're banking on hitting their shots (or using Il Toro exploits) and surprising people with rushing them.
You certainly ain't better either. 98% of the players ain't.
Again, heavy shields are literally an extra buffer. You don't need the buffer if your good at positioning you have good mobility.
This whole argument stemmed from the fact that heavy shields are "bad" because someone doesn't understand the very basics of how extraction shooters, third person shooters and basic logic in a video game goes down and complaining about dying to free kit rats, who aren't running anything on meta, who shouldn't have the advantage unless you give it to them. Complaining about how they don't have an advantage when what they're doing in-game goes against the entire point of having a heavy shield in the first place and would've died anyway if they had a medium shield or not.
There are people in this very thread >>555676271 who think medium shields need a buff because they're "too expensive" and that headshot damage shouldn't go through shields. There are people here saying they'd rather run fucking LIGHT shields than medium.
I guarantee you, these people are absolute dogshit at the game and that the problem isn't with shields, its with them.
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>>555755818
its vision cone is indeed small amd it's also has a harder time hearing things due to its usual height. it can also see you from pretty far away and moves quickly and quietly when it's hovering around the map
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>>555756281
I think the Ferro also zooms in further when you aim.
Scopes should probably become a thing though, even if they just increase third person zoom instead of getting a proper scope view. Would give a use for camera lenses.
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>>555756039
I just don't get it. Why watch people play games when you could just play games
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>>555758389
This has always been a shit equivalency. Football requires a field, equipment, and 21 other people to play. If you have the equipment to watch someone play arc raiders you have the equipment to play it
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>>555758389
I don't watch people play football though, or care about the sport. Sometimes I do play football with my friends though
Anyway it's the same thing, and it's all gay. Celebrity worship, sports worship, etc. streamer news are gossip magazines for kids
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I went to go defib this guy and crawls to this other guy, I can't really see until its too late that he's knocking the guy out
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>>555760401
like >>555760601 says
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>>555755647
>This whole argument stemmed from the fact that heavy shields are "bad" because someone doesn't understand the very basics of how extraction shooters, third person shooters and basic logic in a video game goes down and complaining about dying to free kit rats, who aren't running anything on meta, who shouldn't have the advantage unless you give it to them. Complaining about how they don't have an advantage when what they're doing in-game goes against the entire point of having a heavy shield in the first place and would've died anyway if they had a medium shield or not.
>There are people in this very thread >>555676271 who think medium shields need a buff because they're "too expensive" and that headshot damage shouldn't go through shields. There are people here saying they'd rather run fucking LIGHT shields than medium.
They are bad thoughbeit. Being able to tank a couple more shots is pretty bad considering they're supposed to be heavy not
>a server tickrate heavier than a med
I want it to be heavy. I want to be juggernaut and eat entire stitcher mags for breakfast.
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The couriers? Yea I got one out of those I just see them so rarely.
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>gave away 2 deadlines, a complex parts and a medium parts
>still extracted with picrel
lol, lmao
stella night is dumb
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i can't tell who's more annoying, pve dickriders, or pvp dickriders
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>>555763736
Probably the PvEfags simply because they are in full denial mode about the PvP aspect of the game, if they weren't such whiny bitches PvPers would be far less annoying as well, they know how easy it is to get a rise out of the soft faggots in this community
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>Hmmmm instead of adding solos on TOP of pre-existing squads, we're just going to have them take up slots so PvP lobbies are more barren, now the experience can be shit for everyone!
>It's uh, still worth it though you get an xp bonus even though we're over halfway through the expedition and you're probably capped out!
What the fuck were they thinking
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>watching nickmercs stream
>75% health
>90% shield
>shoots first
>lands a couple headshots
>sliver of health left
>freekit stitcher 1
lmao, if that freekit guy would have shot first, he'd have downed him. shields are so bad in this game. cant convince me otherwise.
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Desu the only thing I have to cry about as a pvp lover is everyone is too damn friendly to the point it becomes impossible to kill someone because they just end up with a buddy that will ride or die with them
>queue solo
>see one player
>shoot at him
>2 other players appear beside him and start trying to kill you
It's like a hive mind or mitosis. I'm not even queuing up into the 1v3 mode but I still have to deal with it because of just how chummy and buddy buddy these randoms get. Half the people I down I don't even get to loot because I need to run away and buy distance so I'm not getting ganked, and BECAUSE of how friendly these people are 60% of the time one of the randos will just have a defrib on them so you can't even come back later to pick the body clean
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>stella solo
>get cornered in medical by a shredder but dont want to spend my ammo
>start beating it to death between its shots
>two people come around the corner and watch me for a min as i finish it off
>one asks you gonna loot that
>say no and run off
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it just keeps happening
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I try to, but when I'm taking too long because I'm trying to be as stealthy as possible then usually they bump into someone and immediately become friends. I've clocked it to the point that, on average, when I find a solo player it usually takes them 4-5 minutes before they link up with a random and then they're ride or die. It's really not a big window of oppurtunity to try and murder someone, and obviously the 4 minutes includes your escape window since most randos will assume you're KoS if you're looting a raider's body.
I wish aussies were more distrustful of one another.
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>open key room
>place door stopper on it
>hear a player breaching while I'm looting
>warn them I'm going to kos if they enter the room
>still enters the room and dies in a millisecond
What goes through the mind of people like that...
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>remember I have a buried city key
>it's for hospital
>i know the loot is gonna be dogass but go anyway
>witness brave man trying to outrun not one, not two, but three fucking hornets outside ground floor hospital entrance
>reflexively pull anvil, start popping rotors off fliers
>down all three without getting hit
>get into the hospital
>"thanks man i just got this game yesterday my gun didn't do shit to them"
Chungarthan Status: Upheld
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Anons, how should I spend my points? I'm new to this game.
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>>555753997
>Better gear shouldn't be a deciding factor in who wins the fight
except that in this game it quite literally does as with any extract shooter, maybe not shields but even having a stack of herbal bandages and a stack of shield chargers gives you a massive advantage over any free kit nigger
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>>555772431
You‘re doing good rn.
You want more stamina, less stamina drain, less fall damage, less time to breach, less time to reveal items and eventually chance to reveal 2 items at once, along with field crafting, advanced field crafting and secure breach (end of red tree). But max out the stamina and looting nodes you have opened already first.
The best perks in the skilltree are all about making the gameplay slightly less annoying, which is honestly not the best look for the game.
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Ty anons. I'll stick to staminamaxxing for now.
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If you're planning on doing trio PvP, this is my build, this is with 81 skillpoints from expedition 1, so you're gonna have to cut down to 76 somewhere.
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Does Equalizer BP drop in Harvester? 6 containers in a row have been Jupiter BP, and the last game I was able to open 2 in the same round. The other guy offered me a Jupiter BP in his third and I declined and left the Jupiters from my 2 containers in the Harvester for others to pickup.
I always hear people offering Jupiter BPs in the Harvester event, but never Equalizers.
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>>555772431
for anything but pure PVP this is hard to beat
if you only play in groups you need to spend more points in green and yellow
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>>555774303
you take the DBNO nodes in yellow and green to make it easier to survive for your teammates to get you back up, if you only play trios
there's less focus on looting in trios since they're "just" for pvp, so you don't sink as many points in red (just enough to get the carry weight)
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target farming non-rare/special materials
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not a fan of charge-fire weapons, but it seems decent at least
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>>555774925
Yeah I tried farming trials with it and for that purpose it's useless since it will break in the first 10 minutes. If you're gigagooped you could bring in multiple I guess but a Hullcracker just makes more sense
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>Get to expedition level 5
>Need to farm hundreds of thousands of materials of every category
What the FUCK.
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Someone should do a study for why every time I get shot it's by some kind of slav or russnigger.
>three of us working together on Harvester
>even rezzed another dude
>Rocketeer locks on us
>I get hit while trying to dodge and one of the guy's also gets hit
>heal up inside Harvester
>shoots me out of the blue
Only a total nigger would do something like this... and sure enough it was one.
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>using deadlines on queen
>heard another active deadline while planting mine on top of the core
>thought I was hearing things and jumped down
>immediately downed by a deadline another player planted
>then killed by my own deadline
Damn, first and last time I use this deadline strat, even more so since I saw that I downed a few people too on the after report...
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if gear was balanced such that TTK was reasonable, and first-shot advantage not fucking massive, I would not disagree
but with the game in the state it's currently in, boss arc would practically never be killed if there were no PVE lobbies
rat niggers cannot help but shit in their own food bowl and ruin the game for people stuck in the pvp hellqueue
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I think I could have done better but I knocked myself out at the last second surrounded by like 4 fireballs.
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>>555628585
Should have stayed, killed or not and spent time with the woman. Add her and start playing with her, socially engineer yourself into her life so she plays with you more. Cuck the PvPchuds and turn the woman into a PvEchadette.
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insane how fucking buggy this game is, I get stuck on random objects or can't move because I moved somewhere or fall through the floor in like 50% of the raids I play
this often leads to my death btw and I've never gotten refunded even once. Just disgusting and embarrassing at this point, like I'm playing a beta
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>>555767645
Best way is probes + couriers.
Spaceport/Dam on electromagnetic storms are your best bet honestly. Dam you want to be either near testing annex or you want to be near the old batteground, hydroponics or outpost near water treatment.
Alternatively, Buried City if you want coverage to see your blue beams as much as possible, but that'll come with issues too.
Spaceport you'll want a security checkpoint spawn, head by service and communications, then straight up against the two raider hatches on your way to Launch tower. The entire sand base around launch tower has again, shit load of spawns for couriers/probes. After that head to the Arrival Building, Fuel Depot, Warehouse. That'll be a lot of the cluster areas, but you can hit up Fuel lines/storage/maintainence hanger if you can spare the time or have a good extract location. You can alternate these and assume that you need to get to Launch tower as soon as possible and leave the outer stuff, but that comes with risks. You really don't need that many.
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Yo crazy idea, they Lock loadouts to the augments, but you can only set the augments, shield, and weapons(and attachments). Meds, utility, and nades picked seperatly. Truncated crafting optiong for all of them, otherwise you have to seperately tab into the traders and spend dosh.
Kinda alleviates some issues, but overall sucks ass, seems perfect.
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>Watch streamer doing loot run
>They just pocket quite literally everything and then when their inventory is fully fumble for 10 seconds drooling going "ERMMMM WHAT SHOULD I DROP"
Do they do this shit on purpose for engagement or something
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>>555785460
That's because they don't have the patented Arc Raider's companion tool by MetaForge. With this quick and easy to install app you can be on your A+ game in no time, with real time value checking and map pins to get all the loot you need without the worry of missing on something you need!
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>>555785669
It considers time and what you do, the 10 times surrender rats get into rat lobbies with other rats trying to get into friendly lobbies so it becomes a mix of people just pretending to be friendly but not the real lobbies. There's a video on youtube going over this, you can't instantly surrender.
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I picked up something I noticed Summit was doing a lot early on. He would put the valuable things at the bottom, the utility to right, guns to the left.
I started doing that and the shit I didn't care much about, even if it's "valuable" like mixtapes and snow globes to the top. or if it's just a single of something. It makes looting so much easier. But it's been a while since I've done max loot raids. Lately I'm just losing money doing trials, or only taking a few key things like springs, gun parts, and whatever else I'm low on.
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I NEED to get into a lobby like this, I will bring like 12 grenades into this party, I'm so bloodthirsty.
But how do I kill them all at once? If I setup the lift with trigger nades before they arrive in there will they notice them?
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Surprisingly despite having only ~30 hours content and basically nothing for endgame and 75 levels it still holds very well.
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>join matriarch lobby
>go to nearest extract
>plant like 30 trigger nades in the lift
>go back to the matriarch and be friendly, talk a lot so people know your voice and think you are the best guy
>once its killed and people are done looting rush back to the extract with everyone
>they all run in and blow up
>quickly plant a deadline on top of the little cart in the middle
>back up and shoot anyone off the console
>deadline blows up and finishes them all
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I really wish there was a no PVP mode some times. Trying to collect all these wasp/hornet drivers is driving me insane. Every single fucking time I accrue a good amount of them and try to extract some faggot has to rush me down and kill me. Yeah I try to fight back but the balance of the game is so fucking dumb and bad you just die in .5 seconds. Got 4 fucking retards at extract all shooting each other for no reason and wasting my time. Yeah I put a stack in my safe pocket[s] but it's still annoying as fuck to lose 6+ items I need that I can't safe pocket.
PVP in this game isn't engaging or fun, just aggravating.
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>>555787281
careful now anon, thats a very unpopular opinion, PVP is the backbone of this title and as of the latest patch is extremely balanced and in a good spot where both the attacker and defender are neither at an advantage starting the fight
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>>555787705
I mean, not really. The best tactic in the game is to shoot first, no matter where you are, who you're fighting, what their weapons/shields are, or what your weapons are. You gain a massive advantage shooting first that there is no reason not to really. Except for the fact I don't really need or want to do the PVP at all when I'm just trying to do something simple like "collect wasp drivers". If I'm not already in chungartha I also don't want to spend 30+ minutes of my life just running around dying to get there.
I would personally like a game mode you can select where you will have no PVP of any kind, basically loading in solo to a map. Loot chances should be decreased by a ton, like even 80% less, but at the very least I can do 'peaceful' looting like collecting arc parts.
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>>555787456
This has already been done
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EUsULcsFEbs
synth fuel is the best bet because it makes zero noise
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Welp ive come to the conclusion im not gonna have a good time with pvp.
In solo its a skill issue, so bad that i get kicked back into carebear lobbies where people just run in the open with goop on the way to matriarch/queen and i feel bad for thinking about obliterating them.
Since i cant loot off the players, im trying to get better at looting in general but these other players are so fast, even when i spawn at the start of a raid, any decent spot is hit before or as i get there.
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>In solo its a skill issue
It arguably isn't in solo. Solo it's so easy to die that it's silly. You can and will die to a stitcher 1 in less than 1 second, like factually less than 1 second. You don't need "skill" at all to kill in this game especially in solo. Just shoot first, if you ever see anyone and you aren't going to let them go by, always shoot first. It puts you 'on top' 99% of the time. Even with the weaker weapons like a burletta it is always better and beneficial to shoot first. Even easier with good weapons like an il toro or torrente; a stitcher 4 with green attachments is one of the best weapons in the game
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>>555790835
Instantly surrender because I'm not about listening to some retarded larper or mouth breathing nigger talk for 30 seconds. I just go again. I also spam space bar during the loading screen after leaving a raid so I don't have to watch all that stat shit and just right to the menu. My time is very valuable.
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>>555793291
Laser M14
Good for ARC (but not armor) and shield breaking (but not health). Green or blue weapon.
I think a 2 handed map spawn only rocket launcher (like an EAT) would be neat and useful for Bastion/Queen/etc
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https://youtube.com/shorts/4s5HFvSPwmc?si=1n31_2Y-MR6wZFck
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>had to trade on Reddit to finally get a Medium gun parts BP
>went through three dozen raider caches and searched buried city raider camp 40 times and found every blue/green bp except gun part bp's
I will never do an expedition
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>>555720292
this used to be the case now I just offer it and most of the people are like 'nah I got that a while ago, ty'
If I'm not near poverty levels of credits I will just drop them outside the extract when I leave
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>kill a chungus w/ my pickaxe for literally no reason
>do it in front of all the chungarthans
>down him 3 times in a row
>nobody wants to kill me because they don't want their ABMM to be affected
>take a guitar, anvil IV, BP, and survivor augment off of him
holy shit PvE cattle are so selfish they will literally allow evil to be committed in front of their eyes
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>>555804395
It's real. My lobbies are complete co-op, even when I play duos or trios in Stella. My friend and I were fighting a bombardier, some more guys showed up and just helped us kill it. Then they said
>You guys did most of the work, so go ahead and just leave us some stuff please
And it was good. And that's nuts because my friend always KOS but my kindness overpowered it
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Imagine being so bad at PVP that you need to exploit the system to win, attacking friendly players like a nigger. Learn to slide and roll, don't use a controller. It's not hard
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>level 1 steam accounts with 1-3 friends going after me on Stella Montis chungus lobby
>two tap this retard
>his friend fucked off immediately
I am convinced there are cheaters who can look at your inventory
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>>555805737
yea
https://youtu.be/mrx7Zh7lvGU
these people get 30 day suspensions btw
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>>555805737
there are, its called ESP
it literally lists the players by their value and shows you where they are through walls
it's why people will get hunted down for finally bringing in their Renegade IV to hunt some arc, or if you have an inventory of expensive explosive nobody would normally know about
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>>555806164
lol pvp lobbies
I regularly take ~200k value loadouts into boss maps in deep chungartha without issue
feelsgoodman
it's nice to actually be able to "use" the fancy yellow guns and spam wolfpacks and shit
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>>555806317
yep, I am autistic and schizophrenic so I harass people to know why they killed me and the answers I've gotten are
>it happened to me, now I want to do it to someone
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>[My cheats] saw you had an expensive gun I wanted to sell
Like this anon said >>555806468 once you are deep into friendly lobbies, you aren't running into cheaters
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>>555806730
Yeah I prefer the middle ground too. Mostly friendly, but you still have to watch your back and think carefully. That's the most fun. Full coop is alright, but full pvp is gay. Somewhere in the middle is best
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Just another reason to use stitcher 4. From that video I can see he only sees what weapon/utility they have in their hands and it's level. I don't see it showing what loot is in their inventory or what attachments they have. No one ever goes after me when I'm running around with a stitcher 4 even if it has the best attachments. Level 1 toro is also good since you just roll between every shot anyways.
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>Been looking for Mk 3 Survivor since the wipe
>Countless night raid medical drawers opened
>Find this instead
What am I gonna do with this? Bring my Aphelion? It doesn't even teach you to craft energy clips ffs
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>>555809119
oh damn I was convinced it was a total noob, but you're probably right, I thought it was suspicious when he was like
>and you promise I wont get banned for this
>"yeah man, I promise"
promise what lmao, you guys don't even know each other
also
>installing something someone sent you over discord
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