>>555919408
Does anyone have the other group pictures? I was facing away in this one

i'm on an original htc vive. it looks like the quest 3 is my best option according to op but it seems like there's no perfect upgrade.
how big a difference in tracking and latency is going from the direct link and the lightboxes of my vive to the airlink (or whatever it's called) and the camera tracking that the quest 3 use?

>>555919987
I don't really think there's a big difference in tracking quality at this point. Being tracked by the headset means you can lose tracking over your head and behind you, but that's not generally a problem.
Latency is going to depend on your setup (you want a decent 6E dedicated router if you're going wireless) and how sensitive you are to it, I personally don't think it's really a problem unless you're playing rhythm games all the time.
That being said, you might as well just wait a little longer and see how the Steam Frame is at this point since it's basically looking to be a better Quest 3 with some extras included.

how do you unlock the VFI browser?

>>555919987
pico 4 ith pico trackers, and you will even be profitable if you sellyour trackers, lighthouses and controllers one by one

>>555919987
What are your priorities. The right headset depends on what you want from the headset.

>>555923114
pico trackers suck

>>555923552
pico trackers are fine, it's the second best thing you can get after vive trackers. It just works without cope or humilition rituals, just like full lighthouse setup does.

>>555924143
>without cope or humiliation rituals
dont forget to look down every minute to reset the trackers lul

Any guides/tips for running VR and VRchat on linux?
Using valve index and fedora kde

>>555924835
install windows 10 and save yourself the trouble

>>555924325
it does it naturally and unintrusively on it's own from your normal head movements. It might ask to look down when you haven't been glancing down and it detected major drift, but that basically never happens.

meanwhile slime users keep being visibly annoyed and keep tapping their chest trackers, meanwhile hybrid calibration users keep being being visibly annoyed and you can see them being slanted from playspace drifts...

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joom in 30?

>>555924835
https://lvra.gitlab.io/docs/fossvr/envision/

>>555923261
all I do is play seated games. I am somewhat interested in messing with standing games if they are good, like I've been wanting to try Alyx for years but been putting it off because the vive controls I assume will ruin the experience. but things like beat saber don't interest me.
I use my headset for playing games like the resident evil remakes or alien isolation with vr mod, and also vr porn. pretty much nothing else. I mostly just want a resolution bump. I like how the tracking on the vive just works perfectly with no issues. I don't know what it's like to have problems with camera tracking it sounds annoying but i've never owned another headset so I was wondering how it compares. I am intrigued with the concept of passthrough vr porn, which the vive cannot do.

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Sonic Sunday in about 5 hours (23 CET).
This time is the third Paramount Sonic Movie.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18259086

>>555927263
Then the quest 3 will be fine. Keep in mind that smooth wireless PCVR takes some investment in some wifi infrastructure for smooth wireless. If you can wait I kinda want to recommend waiting for the frame, but it'll be twice the price if you're budget constrained.

https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_438c5c8b-a6a2-4c1c-ab78-65633180df7b/info

>This world have Womb Return System

I might not turn up to explo next week.

>>555928232
can I not just hardwire the quest 3 to the pc? That is what I would prefer.

>>555928565
You can but it'll require a good quality cable and it still will not be enough to keep the headset charged.

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SEA explo was fun

>>555928565
there is no point, it's the same compressed video stream

>>555928718
There are powered cables that solve that, and they're not exactly super expensive.

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Sign Language Meet us up, come sign with us!
https://vrch.at/8hvwjm9k

>>555929647
looks like the frame will also not connect to the gpu directly? seems like the industry is degrading to chase after normies.

>>555932745
Valve seems to believe that they got wireless working so well you don't need the uncompressed video stream. Did they? Maybe. They built the tech for it; a specialized low latency wifi connection plus foveated streaming that only shows you high quality video where you're actually looking. Does it work? Valve seems to think so.

Solded my Quest 3 a little while ago. Guess I'll just wait for the Frame even though the lack of OLED is disappointing.

>>555933286
It's only disappointing if you weren't paying attention.
OLED doesn't have the brightness to work with pancake lenses.
microOLED is wayyy to expensive.
So that leaves...

>tfw blessed with the ability to completely forget shit like screen tearing, contrast ratio, frame rate, field of view exists

>>555933286
im just sad about the lack of passthrough

>>555933864
The frame has passthrough, it's just black and white.

>>555933904
that's what he said

>>555933929
I wish I was this retarded

>>555934017
you don't get it because you've never experience decent passthrough in your life

>>555933420
I wanted OLED, so yes it's disappointing. That said I care more about having a headset that just werks with linux and no cuckbook spyware so I'll overlook it. Maybe it'll sell enough to get an OLED revision like the 'eck, or an OLED mod.

>>555934249
You are not listening. It cannot be OLED without going back to Fresnel lenses. It will also be a slower refresh rate and higher latency.

>>555934249
lil bro, OLED physically cannot work with pancake lenses, they are physically not bright enough and cannot reach the framerate either

>>555934345
>>555934416
BSB2 has it.

>>555925696
learn your lesson old man

>>555934934
and its dim, has long persistence(blurry) low quality headset

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Golf+ in 5 minutes. Join VRGVRG when it's time.

>>555935385
no i dont think i will

>join /vrg/ for first time
>the /vp/ feet guy is there

>>555938026
the /vp/ feet guy?

>>555938026
Go back, furfag.

>>555938026
please, pray tell

>>555938278
>>555938363
It would be rude to namedrop, but I recognized the guy from multiple boards. His usual haven for the last 16~ years has been /vp/; in which he's spammed the board so much while seeking pokefeet fap material that they've installed many wordfilters against combinations of the word "feet,soles, toes, etc" and ones like "lick, suck, kiss, etc".

>>555938026
didn't realize greg was a /vp/ enjoyer

>>555938751
He's also been doing similar things in /xivg/ for several years

>newfag's first course of action is to dramadump stuff that happened 14 years ago on another 4chan board
lol
lmao

>>555939023
They're not sending their best. If you were interested in VR you'd have been here ages ago.

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come play mahjong
https://vrch.at/hrteu7et

>>555933864
who the fuck is actually using passthrough

>>555940680
You don't get it bro I HAVE to get into VR to see my surroundings in perfect detail and color. Who the fuck wears a VR headset for the actual rendered content? I just want to see my surroundings as if I wasn't wearing one at all.

Has anyone else noticed the Forefront friends list is completely broken? I see only the same two players online 24/7 and the join button doesn't work. It's been like this for probably a week.

>>555940680
I've used it once to go get a beer from my fridge part way through vr but most of the time I just take the headset off. I can see the appeal but I wouldn't care if it was gone.

>>555941949
Well the context of the argument is the frame. It's not even gone, just black and white. It also is nightvision too since it's an IR camera.

>>555942231
That's pretty cool and absolutely sufficient for purposes. Only other time it gets used is when I'm setting up my vr stuff while the headset connects to the pc. Sometimes I use the pc and I imagine I won't be able to see the screen from an ir only camera.

>>555942604
I just take off the headset its easier

>>555940680
If you want to play flat games on a big virtual screen, it's nice to be able to see everything like where your drink is instead of fumbling around for it, and while B&W passthrough will work for that, it'll be ugly as shit

>>555941341
The join button only works if there is an empty spot on the server.

>>555940680
it's genuinely the best shit when you're interacting with your floating desktop

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Dungeons of Eternity
Code: 413

>>555941341
same here

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>>555932317
Good signing, or sliding in the case of one question

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First phase of the mahjong tournament just ended, here's the results.
The bracket phase starts next Tuesday (just so that people can double check if all scores are correctly reported in the sheets); team 50/50 and /jong/ skip the first phase due to their lead, while getting a huge amount of shield (100 and 90 respectively).

>>555944515
It's insane that Valve marketed Frame mainly as le big virtual screen for flat games and then they went with black and white cameras

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>>555949853
You can tell marketing probably doesn't even realize it's BW or they would have cockslapped the engineers by how the preview page shows the flat game floating in a nice big color scene instead of B&W like it'll be.

>>555945645
No, it disappears if there isn't a slot. They're not even online.

>>555949853
they're infrared cams, aren't they?

I feel like monochromo passthrough is kinda kino, but it should probably be an option.

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fent is destroying this community

>>555949853
70% of the gaming market is normies playing Football/Handegg games against bots on a console my nibba.

>oh, there's an active instances tracker
>looks inside
>1active instance
>furshit

>>555952179
holy tourist

>>555952326
holy reddit

>>555940680
Me.
To be honest though I'm more concerned about the resolution/quality of the passthrough rather than the lack of color. There doesn't seem to have been any comment on how good/bad the passthrough cameras are. Hopefully they're more like Quest 3 levels of decent and not Quest Pro levels of horrendous

>>555952326
I as well use the tracker, it's a good service

>>555952797
idgaf about passthrough. literally not the audience they're going for (b-but playing games on big screen...!). kinda corner cutting but w/e. seems decent otherwise if you're allergic to fb

>>555935421
I can't wait for the Samsung 20k nit displays to come to consumer headsets so this debate can be over

>>555951568
It's actually mobileslop "games" in the current year.

>>555953702
I can't wait for a non-shitty spec'd (and non-pimax) headset to be released in the 1-1.5k range.

>>555953154
>literally not the audience they're going for
I just want it to be good enough to be able to read my monitor in a pinch halfway decently in passthrough mode like my Q3 can.

>>555954159
I mean fair, it IS an odd corner-cut on their part considering most other things are fairly solid, and we already know it's not gonna be cheap

>>555940680
I'd use it if it didn't take a minute to activate, throw errors 90% of the time, not even fill the FOV, and have horrible positional distortion, as is the case on the Index. Being able to instantly see the real world would be useful, but anything less than that is going to lose to just lifting the headset up.

>>555954616
Q3 double tap the side of the headset to activate passthrough should be an industry standard. It was fucking amazing to be able to quickly hop back to the real world and then back into whatever without fiddling with things.

>>555949853
Have you ever used b&w filter for your devices? I did on phone an PC to remind me to take a pause or stop and it worked fine, but if for whatever reason the colors would come back again I was even more attracted to it. I think the game will "pop out" more when contrasted with the b&w background and make you more likely to keep playing. Maybe they're employing the same old slot machines tactics.

>>555945814
Good dungeoning. We got raped on the fireball staff only, extra boss fights with death following level.

>>555954097
I don't think the predatory microtransaction audience overlaps with the consolefag&pc gaymer audience even in the slightest my man.

>>555927634
Sonic 3: https://vrch.at/jvwyp39j

>>555933115
as I keep looking I think i'm just gonna grab an index or vive pro 2.

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>>555958937
>as I keep looking I think i'm just gonna grab an index or vive pro 2.

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mahjong at regular time?

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>>555958937

>>555958937
>vive pro 2
don't do this it creates mustard gas

>>555958937
Terrible idea. Just get a used quest 3 and call it a day dude.

>>555958937
If you're going to actually play vr games just get a Q3 and download steamlink. If you're going to be a tranny in vrchat get an index. Those are the two best options so far. Anything else will have more caveats than benefits. If you're not specifically looking for that one thing a different option does better or has extra then you won't be able to cope hard enough with the fact that it's the only choice. Face tracking capable headsets for example are either worse or way over priced compared to these two options.

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>>555960289
Yesu
8PM CST

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Boobs confirmed flat.

>>555958937
buddy this isn't 2021 anymore

>>555965910
>>555962962

I just like that the index has direct link to the gpu with hdmi/display port and better tracking with the lightboxes I already have. am I placing too much value on that? seems like a big tradeoff.

>>555966745
Would you rather watch a 4k video on a 240p display, or a 1080p video on a 1440p display? Quest tracking of the HMD is at least good, if not better, then HMD tracking of the Index, and if you really want to use Knuckles with your Quest, all it takes is buying and mounting a Vive tracker to to your Quest for continuous calibration. If you absolutely insist on a cable, either the Bigshit 2 or one of the funny meme Pimax sim headsets is what you should be looking at, but there's a reason people don't suggest either of those.

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Don't come to Factory

>>555919408
Vault is still coming this Feb 7!

>>555923197
Ass we can
>>555928890
Glad you enjoyee anonnie!
See you again next week
>>555928315
You best be there. There is a non-zero chance we will drop that beauty of a map

>>555951073
Fucking kots overdosing on kotnips

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>>555927634
>>555956936
Can't believe they pissed on the moon. Thank you everyone for coming. IDK what to do next week, maybe to keep with the S theme, Space Jam?

>>555952179
>it’s fur because of map name
>look inside
>just a good map populated by anime girls
The furality guys make great maps with basically no furry elements in it.
Don’t get me wrong, they are furries that made the map but who cares if they don’t plaster offensive furshit all over?
We can enjoy good content without knowing who the author is

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back at it again with a new avatar and some new(?) innovation.
The more I talk the more she smiles, then it holds it and slowly fades if I stop

>>555969684
Subtle. Kind happy to see her happy, i wonder if this’ll trigger some subconscious stuff while chatting with you

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Sir I think there's a man in your food

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>>555971703
Nothing wrong here, just order it up

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I've been meaning to make this video for a while.
PSA FOR ALL SLIMEVR USERS

Please use SteamVR bindings on your controllers for quick, reliable, and comfortable tracker resetting as seen in this video.
I also think you should forward this to anyone who uses Slimes to improve their quality of life tenfold.

>>555972045
steamvr sucks tho

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>>555972261
Sorry masta Zuckerberg I will use the Meta store next time I swear masta.

>>555972732
it rly does

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>>555972732
this bitch always crying

>>555940030
why can't you play at a normal time and not shit European times? Most of you are unemployed anyways. Just join the elite NA group on the weekend.

>>555975310
>why do the euros play at euro times

>>555969587
just how many times are you going to watch sonic 3 jfc

>>555972883
Works on my machine

>>555975310
>elite NA group
how do you type this without laughing to death

>>555963772
no armpits?

>>555966745
>>555962962
>but there's a reason people don't suggest either of those.
the reason is unless youve already spent thousands of hours in vr and just like spending money on tech you want to tinker with and rip your hair out then yes go with bigscreen and pimax

>>555975713
my frens say im elite

>>555975713
I've been away from 4chan long enough to say whatever I want. I initially thought it would be a cool place to talk to people and found only a cesspool of crap. Then I found VR and happen to stumble back on here every once in a while.

if i'm in the game and i'm sending a boop to someone that's on the website on desktop, do they see it?
i'm trying to figure out if the purple wig wearing faggot is ignoring me

>>555966745
>am I placing too much value on that
no, you really aren't. Latency and compression sucks. It just so happens shills jump out of the woodwork if you mention index, and insist you get a quest even if you explicitly mention pcvr

>>555978420
They see the boop and a word description of the emoji, but not the actual emoji. Sometimes I tell myself I'll respond to a boop when I get back on because I want to see the boop the person sent me properly, but then I just forget. Kind of a shit system in general desu. You really shouldn't be offended by dumb shit like that if he doesn't respond.

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NA anime tonight at 10pm est in vrchat
https://rentry.org/i3t5ozt8/

Flip Flappers - 09
Flip Flappers - 10
Darwin - 04
Seihantai - 04

Will post instance link when it's up. You can wait until 11 to join if you want to skip to the seasonals.

>>555969646
>the furshit's fine bc reasons
kill yourself

>>555969849
I wondered the same thing and didn't mention it for a month.
It's too hard to tell with a new avatar

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mmm mahjong
https://vrch.at/r0jvttkq

we really need more worlds with tanki desu senpai


That being said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFmrzRUojS0
these are songs that I have composed (sung) to represent my emotions (feelings) in the Forest Temple. The first one is a spooky echoing vibe that represents the haunting melodies of the Forest Temple. It evokes feelings of emotion like fear and ominousness of being lost in the forest. The second one is a small sample that is meant to evoke fright. The growling is a fearsome instrument that captures the soul and gives a very terrifying vibe. The third one is a upbeat strange funky beat that is more lighthearted than the first two compositions. It is meant to be taken lightly and doesn't quite evoke feelings of fear and more feelings of joy and impishness.

>>555980459
>see furries where there is none
>basically only on the title of the map
ok schizo

i dont care if someones a furry unless they have the brony voice

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>>555980614

>>555980818
>writes fanfic
ok furfag

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>>555975761
Here you go buddy.

>>555978828
i talked to them and they were just fags

>>555978929
https://vrch.at/zb9eq6my
anmie

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Thanks for drawing your local landmarks and/or guys with very large drills!
Sorry about no thread post, will ensure there is one next week.

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>>555987192
My homeland is the drill in my heart

>>555966745
enjoy squinting at your beautiful uncompressed video stream through dogshit lenses

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>>555987192
technical issues with timelapse so just the layers
Where is this anon?

How the fuck do I use SteamLink on Quest via USB?
Everyone just keeps saying "durr jus plugitin and ur gud 2 go" but I only see a wireless option.

>>555900287
These are oddly wholesome

>>555987192
>no thread post
>aka no newfags allowed
It's over

>>555989220
gotta keep the randoms out you know

>>555989301
atp why even be listed in the reentry

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>>555907721
He exists
He explore
He happy
If you say his name three times he shows up in your dreams

>>555988902
Steam Link is wireless, you're probably looking for the official Meta link thing

>>555988902
SteamLink is wireless only, MetaLink has wired option.

>>555990589
>>555990560
I knew those faggy redditors were lying. I got USB running through Quest Link and the visual quality is worse than SteamLink (because I'm using a USB 2.0 extender; and because I have a generic ISP router) but there's no lag.
We'll get there, folks. Together.
Also now that I've updated my NVidia drivers my screen goes black when I'm on the Windows login screen.

fags

>>555992515
You rang?

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>>555980614
good jonging jongies but what the FUCK were those tile draws that entire sesh

>>555975713
because we use the tanki prefab

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i'm so cool now

>>555996530
Cool robowing form

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>>555992959
pls do not execute me

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H-hi...
Could you please give me an i-invite to the meetup?

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>>555971703
that's the kind of look you give your sickly 18 year old dog right before you blow it's brain out with a 9gauge because you can't afford a vet.

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>>555997160
There I fixed her

>>555997160
>>555997286
LMAO THE JOKE IS ANIMAL ABUSE LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COMEDY GOLD

>>555997427
not the hypothetical dog

>>555997427
t. never had to lay a suffering old dog down in a freshly dug grave before blowing it's brains out

>>555999041
My childhood dog died in her sleep. She was assuming room temperature when I went to touch her in the morning, which wasn't a nice sensation to discover. We brought her to a place that cremated her with zero ceremony. I think we all didn't really know what to do.

>>555933286
>>555934249
You're sleeping on PSVR2 + official PC adapter

OLED
140hz
eyetracking
cheaper than Quest 3
option to jailbreak
tethered via displayport, no compression

OLED fags don't have a lot of options but this is the best all around for now Don't think it's got linux support yet, the jailbreak is recent.

Hmm would it be possible to create a multiplayer campaign in vtolvr, but scale it back depending on player count? I want to test and play solo but i know if i make it, i better make it for /vrg/.

>>556007214
Cable is a consumable and you cannot replace it when it eventually wears down in a year.

>>556007928
The cable isn't wired in the headset, just the halo strap, you can unplug it. There's parts sold online since the connector is known. Not cheap but a dead cable out of warranty won't brick the PSVR2, just cost a lot. Same as index.

>>556008968
>There's parts sold online since the connector is known
Where? It's a completely custom sony proprietary thing

>>556008968
Its a proprietary cable and you need to disassemble half of the HMD to disconnect it. Sony doesn't sell replacements, there is no pinouts available. If its dead, unless you are want to reverse engineer the connector your only option is buying new psvr2 or hope Sony accepts yours for repairs.

>>555975618
Will probably watch them again when the next movie comes out in 2027.

>>556009117
ifixit thread names the connector part

i'll probably just buy a used psvr2 if/when this one fails after warranty but before an upgrade, the low cost means nbd

>>556009726
And what about the cable itself? What standard? How many twisted pairs? What noise level? Where do you get such 5 meter cable? Assuming you can order and have hardware to attach the connector.

>>556009726
Index cable is using standard oculink connectors. How many 3rd party or diy Index cables have you seen?

>>556007214
Shitty lenses

>>556009726
>ifixit thread names the connector part
Which thread? What's it called?

>>556011592
DX07P024AJ1

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>>556011791
>DX07P024AJ1
Thanks but 'easy repair' is not quite what I ascribe to a connector where this is the only thing that shows on aliexpress

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Earhood is a spectrum

>>556013476
>re- ? ? star period
idk

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New Forefront Update: Mines & Claymores
>Blow up vehicles as an Engineer with the new anti-vehicle mines, or take enemies by surprise by deploying the new claymore as Recon and Medic!
>Squad up with your friends in the main menu and join servers together. Gone are the days of coordinating which server to join, or joining on a friend and maybe not ending up on the same team or squad.

Featured
>Added Anti-Vehicle Mines for Engineer
>Added Claymore for Recon and Medic
>Added Squad Party Queuing
>Added Account Linking for cross-progression between platforms
>Added end-of-match map voting

General
>Added higher resolution textures for PCVR
>Added more parachute control over horizontal momentum by moving the handles forwards and backwards
>Added more parachute control over descent rate by moving the handles up and down
>Added parachute tweaks so it slows down its descent more effectively when falling at higher speeds
>Added damage effect when taking fall damage
>Increased controller offset adjustment limit for Pico 4 Ultra
>Improved networking performance by more efficiently compressing data
>Fixed throwable objects disappearing mid air before appearing on the ground
>Fixed players getting stuck at one of the smaller islands on Siberia
>Fixed some players on Steam not being able to open the scoreboard

Weapons & Attachments
>Added pins to grenades that arm when pulled out

Vehicles
>Added air control for quads and humvees
>Added taking damage over time before exploding for upside down vehicles
>Increased Zodiac speed to match jetskis
>Fixed Anti-Air Tank and Tank reticles moving around too much

>>556016154
>Added end-of-match map voting
THEY FIXED MAP ROTATIONS

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>>556016154
UI
>Added “My Party UI” to the main menu
>Added various UI optimizations
>Added server report button
>Added new color and icon for dead players
>Added new and improved defib icon to show revivable players
>Fixed UI to say “Out of Revives” after having been revived three times
>Fixed player icons on deployment map being visible inside vehicles

Audio
>Fixed zipline noise continuously playing between map reloads

Link Your Accounts for Cross-Progression!
>We’ve been hearing from many players asking for cross-progression to play on both PC (Steam) and a standalone device (Meta or Pico). This is now possible by linking your accounts to each other!
>To link your accounts, go here, and follow the instructions: https://account.triangle-factory.be/forefront!
>Let us know what you think of the update, have fun, and see you in the game!

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>>555736951
Thanks a lot for the suggestions. My CGPeers account was disabled many years ago for inactivity (my artlet journey is... very long), but some of the CGCookie courses are on rutracker. I think I once learned the old (2.7?) Blender with their course, but that was so long ago that I barely remember any of that.

>>556007214
What does the jailbreak do if the headset already has a PC adapter?
I do actually have the set, but haven't tried it out yet, wasn't sure if I should keep it or sell it towards getting a BSB/Meganex.

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I have the money for a 5090 and a dream to play through Cyberpunk 2077 on a Pimax again, probably also some other games like Ace Combat 7 (8 once it comes out), Resident Evils, Half Life etc.

Worth it? I'm upgrading since I need a good PC for work anyway and my 1080 is starting to show its age, plus I suspect major hardware improvements will probably halt due to AI investments and PS6 not coming for a while. I never used VR before (aside from a few times when my sister let me use an Oculus and I know that I most likely won't have any major nausea, I don't give a fuck about wagglan and motion controls, I'm fine with just "being there" and moving with my head but aiming/playing with mouse and keyboard).

What do you guys think?

>>556025784
>Pimax
Don't get a pimax. Not a single headset is worth it.
PS2VR (with PC adapter box) is better. The price is way better at least. It's not perfect though.
A beyond 2 is probably the next best although it's way more money.
After that I'd consider waiting for the frame.

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>>556025784
>What do you guys think?
I think that you are a redditspacing normalfag with shit taste and should kill yourself.

>>556025968
>>556025784
I made the mistake of getting the Pimax Crystal Lite because the specs seemed good on paper. As always, the retarded Pimax middleware ruins it. The HMD eats up 9-10 GB of VRAM without running a video game. If you try to use your lighthouse controllers with it they'll always have shit tracking and fly off to nowhere for no reason. It's also massive and bulky. If you don't already have a 5090, 4090, or 7900 and play mainly seated sim games, don't bother. A shame too, because the display and optics are really good.

>>556026716
>The HMD eats up 9-10 GB of VRAM without running a video game.
they need it

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>>556025968
>>556026716
I'll research PS2VR and Beyond as well, thanks anons. I assumed Pimax was more or less the best option for high end stuff.

>>556026019
I don't give a shit about linebreaks giving you autistic flashbacks about another website, it just looks better to me. Dunno what is it about cyberpunk that filters retards this much, either.

>>556026839
kill yourself, retarded faggot tourist

>>556026937
My man you have completely lost the plot. This is EXACTLY the place to come if you want VR related topics on 4chan

>>556025784
Praying the bubble pops soon and you can get it for cheaper, but one of the other guys picked up a 5090 this week and is pretty happy with it. With a rig like that a cheap racing wheel may interest you as well, wasn't into racing games before having VR and now I can't stop playing (and crashing in) dirt rally 2. Project: Wingman is another good Ace-Combat-Like with VR support, definitely enjoyed the plot more than AC7.
Some others have had a couple issues with their BSB/BSB2 so it can be a bit of a dice roll, though misprints in the facial interface are quicker to rectify.

>>556027490
VTOL VR

>>556026839
5090 is worth it. It excels on super high resolutions youd want in vr, due to massive vram bandwith. If you want lighthouse tracking the only real contestant today is the Beyond 2, but even it has its problems with end to end clarity, sample and hold screens (instead of strobed), low brightness and fov.

Pimax are good on paper but their software can be quite buggy and annoying, they even hijack and reimplement lighthouse tracking, worse than native steamvr implementation.

PSVR2 is pretty good, but cable is not replaceable, and it WILL wear out.

Sadly, the best you can get as a starter user is Pico 4 Ultra (with nice cheap pico trackers for vrchat fbt), basically the same but zucced Quest 3, or wait 2 more weeks and get Steam Frame.

I personally use Vive Pro 2, but its controversial enough, you'll love it for central high resolution and clarity, or hate it for overall bulkiness and old design. But I wouldn't recomend it today.

>>556027527
True, also Elite Dangerous and (at a push) No Man's Sky. Surprised no one's popped out of the woodwork to recommend Outer Wilds.

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>>556027694
Outer Wilds VR mod is great but it's not really a flight sim

>>556025784
>I don't give a fuck about wagglan and motion controls, I'm fine with just "being there" and moving with my head but aiming/playing with mouse and keyboard

You have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Aiming with mouse and moving with keyboard in VR is EXTREMELY ass. Why do that when you can just grab the gun and aim it? When you can just stick to move? You feel there when your floor is at correct heigh, you stand there and can move around and interact with the world. You'll understand after playing your first vr game, most likely Alyx.

Cockpit games very good too in vr. Racing, flying, yea, there is no point playing cockpit games in flat anymore vr is the optimal way to play them.

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>>556028154
I can't play flat shooters any more :(

>>556025784
I can't comment on the headsets as right now I only have a Reverb G2 and a PSVR2 and I'm yet to buy a premium one, but I can vouch for the 5090. It's a monster of a card for VR because of its VRAM. For flat gaming it's a relatively normal gen-on-gen upgrade over the 4090 (well, it's really a 4090 Titan specs-wise), but for VR with higher res headsets the difference is noticeable, even if not really $1000 price difference noticeable.
But yeah, it only makes sense if you really do have the money for it while also having enough to upgrade the rest of your PC and buy enough RAM. The thing is ridiculously expensive even despite being the best VR card you can realistically buy.

>>556028314
FOMOed hard missing the latest Q3A session. I still play on the standalone version is it any better to use the PCVR one?

We should talk about gay sex instead

>>556028870
I have no idea I only play PCVR.

>>556027649
>the only real contestant today is the Beyond 2
Well, MeganeX also exists, even if it requires significant fiddling to make the most out of it.

>>556028870
You can run at higher resolution on pcvr and can run mumble voice chat easier. Otherwise its exactly the same game.

>>556028870
Virtually the same. The PC one is getting some engine and graphics update because apparently that's what the autists care about instead of getting an actual balanced game to work...

>>556029024
>shitall
Jokes aside are there any non-shill reviews for it?

>>556029024
_real_ contestant

>>556029512
There's a guy on /v/ that uses it for simracing. You can summon him sometimes by saying "quest 3 is great" and if he starts spamming AI songs about jeets then it's him.

>>556029512
No audio, no microphone, shit drivers which dont even render at full resolution, doesnt even have built in watchman dongles, so you have to use the ones from trackers, which can cause radio losses for controllers. Its a meme.

>>556029443
Oh fug I forgor to run mumble

>>556029720
It does have a microphone. Drivers, yeah, at this point they should just replace them with the community drivers... Amazing how they can't get them right.

>>556026839
Beyond is just as shit as Pimax, don't bother.

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Real VR Fishing one hour earlier tonight at 18:00 GMT to not overlap AC too much. Bass event is live.

>>556017853
>What does the jailbreak do
Just firmware downgrades for now apparently. It's cool that it exists, but not sure why that anon was acting like it's actually a selling point yet.
>wasn't sure if I should keep it or sell it towards getting a BSB/Meganex
I like mine well enough as a second headset for sim stuff, but I don't really use it for anything else.
Depending on what you want it for, I could see going for a Beyond but I wouldn't bother with a MeganeX.

>>556028154
Is it really so bad if you don't have motion controls? I get that it's going to be much better with them, but I doubt it's completely unplayable without them? I can image it's going to be disorienting but it probably depends heavily on what you're expecting.

>>556034559
>Is it really so bad if you don't have motion controls?
yes

>>556034589
Well, I appreciate your insight, we'll see if it really does suck dick once I pull the trigger on the PC (if)

>>556028886
Off topic. ERP between two individuals of any sex is straight as long as it's two girl avatars, and whether or not those girls have dicks is irrelevant. A man going for a woman in a female avatar is actually gayer than going tor a man in a female avatar since it's just a meaningless personality debuff whose only purpose is virtue signaling- an inherently feminine activity. The bottom line is that if you still feel straight, you're obviously straight. Most "gays" here just want special snowflake points even though they're really just straights in denial. I see my bro as a girl, therefore I'm straight.

So stay on topic and maybe talk about straight sex.

>>556035112
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

>>556035690
I've seen a very similar post a few weeks ago so I'm gonna assume it's a faggot at work being bored and trying to get a laugh.

>>556031956
Why? They dont seem to hijack vr drivers, its just a lot of bad qa or badly fit face interfaces happens, but you get free replacements.
Low brightness and high persistance seems bad though

>faggots unironically trying to gatekeep homosexuality
VR Video Games?

>>556034559
You CAN NOT play vr games without motion controlls, they are not made for keyboard and mouse, they do nothing on mouse or keyboard inputs. Proper VR mods use vr controllers too. Only a few weird mods use keyboard/gamepad input in vr, and nobody plays them, everyone thinks they are shit.

S: I've prepared the latest Android build for the map, so hopefully we can get questies back again.
I don't have many ways of testing the highlight materials unfortunately, which would be my main concern.

>>556036136
I can play crash bandicoot 4 just fine with a ps4 gamepad in uevr

>>556036113
*flavorful straights trying to protect the gay community from posers

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>>556016154
The update fucked with my muscle memory.
Want to throw grenade. Nothing happens.
Want to aim my MC-10. STALKER trick doesn't work anymore.

>>556026839
>Dunno what is it about cyberpunk that filters retards this much, either.
The fact that the mod is trash is what "filters" people. It's pretty much just retards with no VR experience that think it'll be good.
>>556034559
Yes, not having motion controls is generally bad for anything that isn't a cockpit game.
What makes this even worse though is that aiming and looking around are still tied together. You're not getting VR freelook while you play the game, you're playing with the UI and reticle attached to your face.
On top of that, it uses alternate eye rendering instead of properly rendering the game for VR so on top of the other issues with that, your framerate is effectively halved.

>>556016289
>Added “My Party UI” to the main menu
Full post makes it even more clear, but the party system is supposedly actually in now. Sucks that there's still no easy way to coordinate games for more than 4 players, but it's a start.

>>556033286
No AC today so it's too early for me.
>>556036680
Fuck that's the only way I knew how to use the mac 10. Also they completely removed the trigger to activate grenades? Also sucks.
>>556037270
Maybe it means if we do big matches again we'll get evened out squads of 4 on each team rather than a stomping team.

>>556038680
MC-10 now works like a pistol. You can grab it with the second hand to stabilize it but it doesn't influence the aim direction any longer. Might be better for close combat but I haven't formed an opinion yet.

>>556035959
Low brightness, high persistence, 75hz refresh rate, tons of bad quality control, constant dealing of support and shipping back and forth items, constant broken promises on shipping times, pahjeet CEO that constantly lies about everything

>>556039436
Oh ok that's much better for me, always had an issue with that and the p90 with how close the hands are and how odd it is when you move them further apart to get a better aim.

>>555919408
Is there a good beginner friendly VR set for <$800 that will not require me to sell my anus to fagman or chinese data centres?
Thanks in advance.

>>556041779
Steam Frame in two weeks

>>556033286
Wish the steam version worked...

>>556038680
I'll delay the fish to wednesday again because the FUCKING EVENT IS BROKEN AND CAN'T BE PLAYED IN MULTIPLAYER holy shit what the fuck are the devs even prompting to the AI.

>>556043573
oof

>>556041779
buy some sweaty nerd's used index

>>556041779
Used index is actually a good idea actually, but I would definitely wait at least 2 months since valve is literally just about to release a new headset after 5 fucking years of development

>>556048804
>used headset
may as well buy a used tenga.

>>556049409
You can clean the plastic bits with isopropyl alcohol and get a new faceplate pretty cheap.
That said, my index is pretty disgusting

>>556041779
Pico 4 ultra optionally with pico trackers. If its not available in your region: quest 3. If you are willing to wait a bit: Steam Frame, but it'll cost double.

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In middle of new lands, the iris stands
Freshly planted by a lone individual
Despite life as a nocturnal
Through flower's colorway, Void sees the day
Sense of vision is no longer dellusional
Once planted it is now central

On Void's back the empty, the flat red lake
Ahead waves shake, there lies a deep blue sea

Behind was a time, so hollow
Forward is empty spaces, new flow
Some circumstances did allow

A broken filament, A rotting tree's torment,
A journey from agreement, A forced smile's moment
A ground causing a descent, A dance for ascent
A lake that rescent, A rain for them to repent

Surely, this plant can only grow from now
Surely, more will come tomorrow
Surely, some will follow
...
Unfortunately, Shine went ahead, already

---
One more chapter to go and I'm done with this story, hope it wasn't too cringe. Kinda feel it was but had fun with it
Volleyball at 21:00CET (in ~1h20), followed by Mahjong 1h later at 22:CET (in ~2h20). Also, Boredom Tea tomorrow (18:15CET).

>>556049918
+30 CCP social credit but you did not see the chinese data centres part of the post

>>556016154
Forefront in 18 minutes and I dont care

>>556050039
Its not my fault bytedance makes the best affordable headset. Also chinaman isn't selling me to FBI

>>556049918
P4 Ultra really dropped in price. I can find some new units for 450 euros now.

>>556050210
I mean it's a good headset and well worth considering even if you're not a china fan.

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Hosting Cosmic Princess Kaguya! watchalong on Saturday Feb 7 at 07:00 UTC

is the frame that big of an upgrade over my index? looks like the two pros are a 33% boost in resolution and it's wireless? (i'm not super concerned with wireless other people love that but I never leave my pc). and the trade off is worse tracking, lag from wireless, and you now have to mess with charging it? it doesn't seem like a CLEAR upgrade. is the difference in display that big of a deal?
i've also never used any other headset so I don't really know how wireless or camera headsets feel.

>>556050663
SLAM headset tracking is actually in a very good state. Hand controllers track well too, but you loose behind your back, lower body expressiveness.

Wireless latency is well hidden by on headset reprojection and controller tracking prediction, going from 40ms to 80ms overall latency isn't THAT bad, although it will make your aim slightly worse, and you need to be extremely sensitive to notice. Most good setups will get latency around 40-60 ms though, so it's not that much worse than wired (40 ms motion to photon, on most 90 Hz headsets).

Compression artifacts though, are quite noticable on hard to compress textures, but frame foveated compression should be able to reduce them quite a lot.

Resolution increase: you will feel like you've been blind your whole life and jesus cured you.

>>556050663
Valve made wireless as good as cable. Or at least they believe so. They didn't even add the ability to use a cable they're that confident in it.

>>556050663
If you move around a lot in your playspace and irl turn instead of stick turn, wireless will be very good for you.

>>556050070
AAAAAHHH STEAM WHY CAN'T YOU KEEP MY GAMES UP TO DATE, PLEASE WAIT

>>556051227
I'm really excited to try out the wireless delay on the frame tbdesu. On the quest 3 actually you can get incredibly low latency but you need to drop the bitrate to around 120 @ h264 which looks kinda poo in games like pavlov but with the foveated encoding + more bandwidth headroom from wifi 7 then I believe the encode/transmit/decode on the frame will be extremely competitive. Might be sub 8ms for the entire stack.

>>556051591
>. Might be sub 8ms for the entire stack.
network stack? Even then too good to be true, more like 20 on network, + 10 on PC, + 11 on hmd + waiting on vsync, in best case.

>>556050663
>worse tracking
Lighthouse tracking is unironically not even that good.

>>556051348
or more likely the Goertek platform they built on doesn't have a cable input.

>>556051450
i'm mostly stationary. my primary concern is any lag with head tracking, the boxes work perfectly and I worry about losing that. I also never have to calibrate it, they know where the unit is at all times forever.
>>556051750
I've had no issues with it what are the supposed drawbacks?

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IT IS MAHJONG DAY

>>556051517
foefront
#976 1/32 all maps

>>556041779
Quest 3 + dedicated router, you have to only let it talk to Meta during the initial setup, after that you don't even have to give it internet access to use as a PCVR headset. Also, Steam Frame is promising the same thing but without Meta being involved at all, so might want to wait

>>556051708
Now I'm talking total. Right now with my Q3 using optimized setting I'm getting 4/3/6 for encode/transmite/decode but like I said the image quality isn't great compared to full bitrate h265 but then the latency shoots up to like 6/6/12.

>>556052019
omw

>>556050663
Pancake lenses are a pretty nice improvement over fresnels too, especially if they're as comparable to Quest 3 as impressions suggest they are.

>>556051898
No one knows what is going to happen to fbt after the frame releases and outside in tracking dies forever. Maybe the new meta will be frame+flux and we'll never need lighthouses again. Maybe there will be a controller mount for them in the future so you can track your hands behind your head. Maybe it'll just be a strap directly on your hand so you can have the quest finger tracking along with occlusion free hand position tracking.
Personally I wish I could go back to lighthouse tracked controllers but zucc and the absolute state of getting anything imported here has stopped me from being able to do that.

>>556051898
>what are the supposed drawbacks?
There are no technical drawbacks. The reason it's on the way out is cost. It just costs too much.

>>556050663
You're right, it's not an upgrade, it's a Quest/Pico competitor. Index is just retired as a product category. Short of Pimax or BSB there aren't really any other "upgrades" for the Index on the horizon.
For what it's worth, you don't have to use it wirelessly, it works wired as well. Head tracking will be fine (in most lighting conditions), it was fine even on the WMR headsets with crap dual cameras, with controllers we'll see but without cameras on the back of your head there will always be dead zones. For sims and general vidya it should be a good option; for social VR it's suboptimal, especially if you want FBT. The screen is of course much better, except for maybe FOV (we won't know for sure until it's released), but that's because the Index screen is downright ancient by now.

>>556052013
every day is mahjong day though sadly

>>556053154
>Flux
How does it even work? And is it different from Haritora?

>>556053674
It measures the magnetic field and uses that to figure out its position relative to the hip tracker. Been a lot of testing videos that look pretty good. Main appeal is that the trackers are really small, lots of them can be supported at once, and it doesn't need line of sight so they can't be occluded. Some question over what metal things do to them like bed springs but theoretically you could leave your room entirely and still track fine. I think there's a video of a vtuber going to pee mid stream and it tracked her body the whole way but I can't remember if that was actually fluxpose.

>>556053674
It's IMU + constant calibration via a magnetic field emitter you wear on your hips to prevent drift as plagues normal Slimes

>>556053674
it gets shilled every day here but the big innovation is that it uses an electromagnet on the floor rather than the very weak magnetic field of the Earth, reducing the amount of interference and allowing it to work on planets with no magnetic field. Since nobody is going to Mars any time soon, all it practically means is that the box fan and steel chair in your room maybe won't confuse your trackers as much, thougheverbeit nobody really knows how effective this mechanism actually is because nobody actually uses these trackers

>>556053674
It's closer to vive trackers than slime/haritorax/mocopi.
Vive trackers are basically imu + constant calibration using the lighthouses; Flux is imu + constant calibration using the hip tracker's magnetic field
It's not a new technology, for instance it was used in the Pico 2 for the controllers, and it worked really well apparently (timestamped demo, review in french but you can understand the test without speaking it: https://youtu.be/ZvfiG5Yc9uc?si=-pUPjedJD4Jrk0ap&t=1070 )

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>>556053631
The mahjoomers constantly shitposting the karaokefags for having constant instances only to do the exact same thing for longer and more annoyingly is just another reason to hate mahjong.

>>556055651
this is what volleyballfags want you to believe and you completely fell for it, retard

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>>556025784
I would say the richfag's choice for PCVR is Play For Dream.
Or even Galaxy XR, but with that one you have to have a narrow head for it to be comfortable.
Alternatively you could wait for reliable reviews to come out for the new Pimax Dream Air, getting that headset into your hands could take quite a few months tho, and Pimax is a very unreliable company so you are basically hoping for a miracle.

>>556055651
stop pretending there is constant mahjong you sound like a little girl

>>556056460
There was thoughbeit

>>556056448
The VRPanda strap has made my XR much more comfortable to the point I don't mind wearing it compared to my Q3. The big downside is still the dogshit software that you're betting on Google/Samsung fixing, though it feels like a fairly safe bet since they want AndroidXR to be good for the meme AI glasses they're trying to push as well.

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>>556049978
Volleyball https://vrch.at/g9tnknz8

>>556055651
>EU players making up problems again

>>556055651
how can you be annoyed by something being hosted lmfao youre such a child

>>556056873
lmao unc is complaining about past tense

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>>556049978
Mahjong https://vrch.at/3hxw4str

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I've noticed in Forefront that kids are somehow extremely bad at interpreting what is happening to helicopters. They see the pilot dying as them having jumped out, maybe because they're unaware it's possible to die inside the cockpit? More unusually, they usually interpret the helicopter being destroyed by RPGs or tank shells as the pilot crashing into something, even when they're obviously nowhere near anything. Maybe because they expect some kind of kill feedback and the lack of that is interpreted as an environmental death? I witness these things almost every game from children.

VRoid's pretty cool, but it sure gives you a lot of polys to clean up later

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Ah, Finland.

>>556053674
hihi

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car show, Japan

>>556025784
>I don't give a fuck about wagglan and motion controls, I'm fine with just "being there" and moving with my head but aiming/playing with mouse and keyboard
if you are fine with this you would be fine with using a google cardboard vr set as well
the cyberpunk 2077 mod is vr in the same way google cardboard is "vr"

>>556068046
perkele

>>556069161
rusk a cute

any tips for optimizing 'my' avatar? it's only like 14mb but the poly count is through the roof, not sure if it matters. already using the d4rkavataroptimizer for reference (which I assume only compresses some of the textures)
glad I managed to figure it though, even got to add avatarlimbscaling

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>>556075802
You'll have to use blender and manually reduce the poly count by removing or merging edge loops.

>>556075802
Get thrys and find all the 4k textures, change them to 2k or even 1k or below if the texture doens't suffer too much, aim for below 100mb texture. Don't forget there's also imposters you can one click on the website, too, as well, after you actually upload the avatar.

>>556075802
anatawa12's AOO has a function that allows you to delete mesh by blendshape in Unity that you can use to cull body polygons underneath the clothing, but beyond uploading each outfit as a different avatar, you're not really going to be able to do much about polys beyond that without major work which simply isn't worth it. Make a single green version with an outfit you like, if possible, and then don't worry about poly count for the rest as long as everything else is okay

>>556035690
>He hasn't seen the chart

>>556076280
I already deleted a bunch of accessories, only gonna bother with blender if it's something I REALLY want to use

>>556076301
good call, made an imposter incase anyone has a shit pc. will probably upload a few other avatars just in case

>>556078240
>uploading each outfit as a different avatar
oh does that actually count towards it? if so then I don't think the avatar is that demanding, only that it has a bunch of outfits options which I ASSUME doesn't actually matter except for people who glance at the numbers and assume the worst
should probably find out how to remove those anyway so I don't get auto-blocked

a single 128x128 texture was enough for character models in online games in the 90s and your avatar really shouldn't need more than that

>>556079075
>let me guess, you need more?

>>556075802
yep
keep the d4rk shit. I think its broken since 20 releases and does nothing but it also doesnt make things worse.

Get AAO.
https://github.com/anatawa12/AvatarOptimizer/
Add this to your unity project.
Add the "AAO Trace and Optimize" Component to your avatar (where your avatar descriptor is)

Add "AAO Remove Mesh by Blendshape" to your Avatar body (not the head, your actual body)
Experiment what blendshapes you can hide. Then toggle them, this plugin will cut them out. effectively completely removing all tris from your model.
This works with Meshia but can have WEIRD af side effects. If you for example hide your entire torso under a costume just set the poly count in meshia higher, test it out until it works out!

Get LAC TC
https://lac.limitex.dev/en/docs/components/texture-compressor/
Add this to your unity project.
Add the "LAC Tecture compressor" Component to your avatar (where your avatar descriptor is)
You can play around with the settings and see what works for you, but even if you choose "High Quality" you will see a noticeable reduction in texture memory

Get Meshia
https://ramtype0.github.io/Meshia.MeshSimplification/index.html
Add this to your unity project.
Add the "Meshia Cascading Avatar Mesh Simplifier" Component to your avatar (where your avatar descriptor is)
This one is tricky and can make your avatar look CONSIDERABLY MORE SHITTY
It will decimate polygons until your avatar hits the treshold you set (its 70k by default for good performance)
Play around with the sliders, it shows you the result live in unity. If it works out for you, more power to you, but if you're a modbeast it requires insane tweaking.

This post was made by the never open blender gang.

>>556078932
>oh does that actually count towards it?
It counts towards the VRC rating, and most people are either culling based on that or VRAM/download size, not actually looking at an avatar's stats.

>>556079075
Yea, I was shoving my face inches away from those models on a 4k resolution screen, and they were fine!

>>556079452
added and thanks, will use if needed

>>556079516
>It counts towards the VRC rating
I'll try to aim as low as possible, but surely 'poor' is servicable considering it has a cap unlike 'very poor'