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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
/sthg/ #9029 - Hedgehog Day Edition
==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-123 6280697/
>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-r eport-paramount/
==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - 04 March 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 11 March 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 08 April 2026
==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg
Previous Zone: >>555998974
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/Gsd5_xzebH0
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Blaze's core concept is simply being Nega-Sonic.
She is the polar-opposite to Sonic in a way where the two are like the north and south magnetic poles.
She is the obvious next step after Knuckles, who is the Anti-Sonic.
All of her lore just emphasizes that in a literal way, like how Knuckles' lore emphasizes his 'Anti-Sonic' status by literally binding him to a great responsibility.
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Over the course of engaging with opinions on this subject, I've just accepted that character growth/ development in this series either:
Peaked in SA2.
Went off the rails at some point.
Is pure headcanon and assumptions.
Exists and peaked for that specific game. (Blaze)
Actually exists throughout the series (Shadow)
or Horribly done.
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>>556045617
>like who
Removes Cream politeness and intelligence
Removes Amy as Sonic girl and the love interest and makes her annoying
Takes Tails spot next to Sonic and takes his "bullied character that needs mentoring" and makes him the cheering useless sidekick
Fucking obliterates Knuckles taking spot his strength and his fire powers
Takes Rouge strong kicking female status
Uncomfortably pushes Shadow away as the moody, loner Sonic rival and equal who has emeralds
And Eggman is the only one that is left there but he has nothing to do with her, (she has his clothes)
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>>556047674
Shadow should absolutely NOT be in the core 5, EVER.
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Same applies to Silver for the same reason.
Sonic, Shadow & Silver can all, only ever be NUMBER ONE.
Putting Shadow in "#5" is impossible. He automatically overshadows everyone and replaces Sonic as the main character because Shadow IS Sonic.
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>>556046576
No sense of ridicule, just an hedgehog having fun
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Cope or die.
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Cream, Rouge and fucking Sticks fit more as the 5th core member and that's final Blazefag, go back to your Sonic-world(1) and make another cast for yourself.
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>>556047958
We are all linked
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>>556046686
>Tails being the friend that's more expressive to the MC regarding their impact on them
This guy? https://youtu.be/rjXyEUosiaQ
>Knuckles being the tsun friend that will commonly bump heads with the MC but it's all to hide their deep respect for them
Kuwabara? https://youtu.be/Blh5wXhy_pk
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>>556047409
All these "anti Sonic" parallels can be done with literally any other character and better. Blaze is an unnecessary character from an uninteresting world that pretty much only has Tanabata, everything else feels forced
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>>556048205
No, Blaze is the ONLY one that works.
Cream being Girl Tails & Amy's sidekick automatically disqualifies her.
Rouge is for Knuckles & Shadow, and is basically another Girl Sonic to such a degree that the freedom theme between her and Sonic is -too- similar so that automatically disqualifies her.
Sticks is built around an OOC Amy, and is functionally the same as Cream otherwise (Amy's sidekick above all else) so that automatically disqualifies her, too.
#5 has to be a girl specifically built around Sonic, that contrasts him in a particular way, without having any prominent similarity or connection to Amy.
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Fags know Sally and Surge more than Blaze, it's retarded to even market her
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>>556048332
>This guy?
someone has to do it, and it's not going to be Sonic
obviously it wouldn't be as dramatic as that, something closer to his declaration against Eggman in SA2 fits better
>Kuwabara
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>>556047728
Metal Faggot will never recover
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Who?
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I'm sad that they basically treat him like nothing now.
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Only Sonic fans had tried to make Blaze interesting. Sega has no idea what to do with her
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>>556048583
yes, but metal was part pf the original classic cast, sage has been around like 5 years and she appears in only 2 games
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>>556047892
>time traveler from the future
And now that's Amy.
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>>556048925
Its just people trying to make proto Blaze a thing
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Who is the lady?
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>>556048864
Knuckles isn't extreme enough of a contrast for them to really latch onto, and Sonadow winning in aesthetic preferences I guess
Sonic and Knuckles are friends, regardless of their antics, they share an understanding that this guy would have my back no matter what
I find too many people want a frankly implausible opposites attract thing with Sonadow, but with Sonknux you get that and two people who genuinely want to engage with each other
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Meant for this >>556049610
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>>556049720
Sega will look at this and all the attention smooth and expressive animations get and learn nothing for the next game
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>>556049620
Shadow's entire vibe is much more antagonistic to Sonic by nature of their dynamic, way more than Knuckles has ever been, and that's what hooks them about it
but because they also want cute shipping moments, they have to soften Shadow
when you soften Shadow, you get Knuckles
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The only content where Shadow is as nice as sonadow/teamdarkfags want him to be are Archie and Prime. When they complain about Shadow being "ruined" they mean IDW and Boom. These four things all have something in common.
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Sonadow and its a fujos are a cancer to the Sonic fandom
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The problem is simply the fact that we do not have a true (canon) "Sonic vs Knuckles" game/story at all.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles being a classic 2D Genesis game means that this "Sonic vs Knuckles" story that emphasizes their rivalry and duality basically doe not exist at all. Honestly, the same could be said for Tails & Amy, as well, with their own debuts in the classics.
And then Sonic Adventure completely and utterly fails to properly capitalize on "Sonic vs Knuckles" either. Knuckles is one of those cases where his entire concept has never been well-executed and that is a severe problem that throws the entire franchise and fanbase off-balance, hence the obsession with Shadow to try and fill that space. But that doesn't work, because Shadow is functionally just another Sonic.
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What Sonic Fans think "character growth" is
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>>556046848
I'd beat the shit out of Krack and the rest of the women so I can force the males to have gay sex with each other for my amusement.
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The problem with Tails, Amy & Knuckles is that they just don't have "their game" like Shadow has SA2, Blaze has Rush, Jet has Riders, etc.
Sonic Adventure 1 has to be the closest thing for them, in that case. But for Knuckles, this also doesn't work because neither his rivalry with Sonic OR his own background/lore is explored well at all. Like, the entire game is built on HIS ancestral history and the reason why he even has this job, and it is the perfect foundation to explore his dynamic with Sonic through the lens of freedom vs responsibility... but none of this shines through in his story at all.
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>>556050398
Calm yourself down. I'm not gay. I hate all gay ships but I hate Sonadow the most because of how much it bastardizes Sonic and Shadow's characters and how its devotees are the most obnoxious and disgusting people in the fandom
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>>556049285
Shadow doesn't care about Rouge. He sees her as a tool useful for achieving his goals and that's it.
Rouge is constantly manipulating Shadow and exploiting his ptsd to get what she wants.
Official statement from Sega is they aren't even friends. Shadow will only ever love Maria. Rouge was literally designed for Knuckles. Deviating from this shows a gross misinterpretation of the characters but shitougefags don't care about that.
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I known that for years but I don't know why they keep doing this. Shadow is known for being a calm, calculated and emotionally reserved person. It's mostly a SoA thing because in japanese dialouge, Shadow acts way calmer and all that anger and hostility in the english version isn't there
I don't know why SoA wants Shadow to acts like this when nobody likes it
The only reason I can think of is because SoA sees Shadow being a "dark" character means he's evil and bad. It's a very western way of view "dark" characters
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>The problem with Tails, Amy & Knuckles is that they just don't have "their game" like Shadow has SA2, Blaze has Rush, Jet has Riders, etc.
Tails has Sonic 2, Amy has CD and Knuckles has 3K. What are you talking about?
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>Tails
don't have "their game"
Even if you dont count classic era there are plenty of examples.
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>>556050506
ASS > SSS
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>>556050347
If you look at the games purely as they are without dubs or headcanons, you'll find that Sonic as a franchise is bland and undercooked, such as >>556050171. So if anything, sonic fans are doing the heavy lifting in making the characters appealing in fan media, even when making them ooc
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>>556050940
Something buggin' ya?
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Explain this, Sonicfags
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>>556049460
Hakase from Nichijou. I know it's been years, but how are there anons here that haven't watched Nichijou?
>just dug through my 1000+ image Tails folder
>not a single one of him in a lab coat
What the fuck
https://youtu.be/TFFgpGFSr0w
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The problem there is that Blaze being "Nega-Sonic" immediately came with wanting a "Nega-Tails" role for her, which went to the Girl Tails (Cream) before we got the 'real' "Blaze's Tails" (Marine).
But the problem -there- is that when you take Tails and invert all of his character traits, OR if you take Blaze and reverse-engineer the perfect complimentary partner for her in that regard... you get Amy. Marine in Rush Adventure is just another Amy, with the same personality. Even her arc in that game is too similar to Amy, just without the romance angle.
And this all doesn't work because Blaze's need for a "Tails-analogue" clashes with Amy's own role and status where SHE is a Sonic-analogue with her OWN Tails (that Blaze "stole" in the first Rush game).
And then there's the fact that when you reverse-engineer an "Anti-Blaze" or "Anti-Amy" ... the result is still each other, as well. Though, I guess since "Nega-Knuckles" is Rouge, then Rouge is Blaze's best Knuckles... But still, it basically creates a situation where Blaze becomes the MC, and Amy is just relegated to HER sidekick. When in reality, Amy herself should be the female MC while Blaze would be her -rival-, if anything. Though, I guess that's the same thing, just different perspectives...
Blaze is like a class president type while Amy is like your girl next door, and that automatically is just the girl version of Sonic and Tails -and- a typical jock/nerd dichotomy.
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>Tails has Sonic 2, Amy has CD and Knuckles has 3K.
Yeah, exactly, and that means that "their game" DOESN'T EXIST.
BECAUSE those are classic 2D games with basically no story at all whatsoever, in any way at all. Because the stories in the manuals and all the unspoken subtextual context within the game itself doesn't actually matter, compared to any of the Adventure/Modern era games.
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>>556051272
Why are they so cute and sexy together?
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Tired of this narrative. Naka was a day one hater of the westshit changes (except Robotnik as a name). He actively attempted to stop them. There was no "healthy blend of east and west". The original JP Sonic was supposed to be that and SOA changed shit without Sonic Team's permission because SOA is in fact larger than Sonic Team. It was only after the penders chronicles bullshit that eventually Sonic Team got to be top dog. Yuji Naka was literally on Television saying he hated westnic in the E! documentary.
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>Shadow is known for being a calm, calculated and emotionally reserved person.
So is Sonic.
And this is the reason.
The whole point is that they are the same, but everyone wants the opposite factor to force contrast, so that they can justify pairing the two together side by side.
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NO TOUCH POTATO
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>>556046682
I've come to agree over time. After the Metal Virus arc, they're just winging it. The ideas and concepts are interesting, but the executions suck ass more often than not. Not to mention they hype up stories and characters and then immediately undo the hype in half an issue.
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This is how we make Rouge popular
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>>556051927
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>Amy's a whole Stacy
Yes, she is, but she's also an approachable friendly happy genki girl next door.
Amy is the opposite of Tails, and thus her "status" is directly equal to him.
Sonic is a world renowned hero, Blaze is an imperial princess. Equivalent status, from opposite lenses.
Amy and Tails are the same. Tails being a bully victim and Amy being a "stacy" are very opposite, but both are on equal level when relative to Sonic.
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>>556052193
>Gadget
>Obvious self-insert
You don't say.
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>>556052132
Leftist love Bayonetta though, just say being a slut is empowering her or something
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>>556043325
>Chaotix Casefiles had Vector reference Metal Sonic Kai
..what tha-
Oh my god, they DID. Those IDIOTS...
All right, time go drop some basic weebknowledge no one asked for.
We already HAD a "改" character. E-101 Beta becomes "kai" when revised. There's several translations of this, but the way it's translated in the sound test is "Improved" - in the International version, they changed this to "mkⅡ" in the boss title. (Sonic X apparently didn't translate Kai.) If you wanted to keep the translation consistent, you would render "Kai" as "Improved", "mkII", or even "R" if you wanted the vague version from the guides.
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KAI IS A NONSENSE WORD IN ENGLISH.
Sure "DBZ did it" but this isn't anime and there's really no reason to be using a Japanese word. It's not even the right Metal Sonic - the Japanese manual indicates it's the regular Metal Sonic. Because he WAS "improved". He can shoot lasers now and stuff.
Ian "Starline" Flynn really likes the misinformed revisions on the old Sonic News Network it seems. We were supposed to be past that.
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The fact that you have to go out of your way to read the manual in the first place is the problem. Like, sure, -I- read those manual stories thousands of times, but who else would!? Any random person playing the games is likely to not even know the manual stories exist. And even then, it's all just "told", not "shown".
How much do the games themselves actually convey? Sonic 3 & Knuckles is widely considered to be the peak of the classic era stories for how much it tells the story in-game, and it's still severely limited by its own nature as a 2D genesis game with no dialogue or anything. And the fact that this is the best Knuckles has ever been handled is what severely hurts his character.
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>>556051927
Jesus, you could grab two handfuls of those hips. Imagine the noises he'd make as you railed him over his workbench.
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The bad communication between SoA and SoJ on how the Sonic series and it's characters should be portrayed never fucking ends. I'm so sick of this, a lot of people whining about Sonic not having an identity comes from SoA turning and twisting Sonic against what SoJ does instead both of them of actually communicating between each other. It's also SoJ fault for not having a tighter grip. Then you have people like Flynn and Evan just turning the series into whatever the fuck they want but not what Sonic fans actually want to see
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Right before #68
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>>556052218
Their idea was flawed from the beginning. The moment Sega gives Silver another ruined future they cannot possibly make it make sense in the comic
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>>556052503
Unlike the 90s the fans are able to see it happen in real time
>>556052218
We've been trying to tell you the English versions of the games aren't canon. Sonic Team literally doesn't pay attention to them so it isn't possible for their plot poihts to carry over from game to game. Tails Knuckles and Amy development is only in the English version.
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Tails is just pure sex.
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>>556052454
Having to outsource management of your franchise's mythology to westerners who just want to turn it into a furry soap opera is utterly pathetic
>>556052503
Ian and Evan were the biggest things to ever happen to Sonic. Their writing and social media antics are what opened the floodgates to this once great fandom being infiltrated and infected with progressive activists who don't care about the characters and lore but only about muh representation.
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>>556051516
She's a big challenge to him. I'm sure he'll overcome it
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>>556053116
IDW is paying Sega for the license. The comics need to make enough to be a profit over what they paid and the labor costs. If the comic is still going, then it's making enough to justify its own existence
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>>556053075
Why are westerners so obsessed with turning Sonic into furry shit?
I get that Sonic and friends are animal characters but they are 30s inspired rubbershose animal characters like Mickey Mouse and Felix the Cat, not Disney anthro animals like Robin Hood and Zootopia
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>>556053215
Bratty bat, needs fox correction.
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>>556052537
>Evan: Y'all want another therapy session between Nite/Don, Whisper/Tangle, and Soleil/his family in the next issue? You folx would love it due to the representation
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>>556053818
Please take a moment to look at and download picrel
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>>556052537
>Evan had 2 years of prep time to figure out where she was going to put the timeskip and instead of doing something reasonable like doing a one-off issue where the CEs and main cast are absent for it to happen she just inserts it into some random issue where it doesn't even make sense.
The level of incompetency these people continue to show is genuinely funny if not mindboggling. How the fuck does this woman keep her job?
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>How the fuck does this woman keep her job?
I'm 100% certain it's because she's the only writer IDW can find that's willing to effectively be paid below minimum wage. We know that the only reason why Ian gets hired by Sonic Team at all is because he's cheaper than Pontaff were.
Saying this has made me realize that this franchise is quite literally scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
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all IDW has to do was put time skips in between each issue instead of having every single issue be set immediately after the previous. Then you can have a period of time when the emeralds aren't accounted for. Because IDW is one long ongoing comic there is only one time where you can fit Frontiers. That is why it's issue 68. In every other arc you can tell that Frontiers is impossible.
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>>556050926
Maria has actual tit bones in her SxSG model, used for animating breasts. Rouge doesn't. Maria has a bigger rack than Rouge now. What does Rouge do better than Maria again?
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>>556054025
The latter is the majority of the people who like IDW and picrel is what their Twitter accounts look like
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>>556054025
>either want to fuck all the girls
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>100 issues of comic book
>in the span of 10 years
>nothing happens
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I'm curious. If you were to put our namefags on a team to make a Sonic fan project together, who would you put in each role? What hurdles would you foresee them having? Would you have faith in their final result?
The project can be anything: game, a short comic, etc. To make this a tad more selective, the project lead can only be one person and the other pertinent roles can only have a max of three members (their respective leads included).
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>>556054356
I'm not even trying to be hyperbolic but this is actually disgusting behavior.
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Maria is smarter than Rouge.
Maria has a bigger ass than Rouge.
Maria has bigger tits than Rouge (despite being anorexic, so imagine if she were cured).
Maria loves Shadow more than Rouge.
Shadow loves Maria more than Rouge.
Maria tried to protect Shadow despite her weakness while Rouge needs to be saved like a damsel.
Maria was a better thief than Rouge (stole Shadow's heart).
Maria mogs Rouge even when she's dead.
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We should make our own Sonic comic. And every issue, Rouge makes out and has sex with Tails. And in issue 100 she gets pregnant.
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It's the emblematic of a franchise made by Japan for a western market, that means the west believe they have the right to just "change anything to appeal more to the western market" and just muddling the series identity and the western people who would actually like the series real vision. If you want change things then actually communicate with the people who owns the series
It's no different than taking any non-western IP and just changing the tone, world, lore and how the characters act when brought over to the west. Same if it was a western made IP the was changed when brought over to the east
Taking someone else work and changing it behind their back is always disgusting no matter what
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I have to give credit where credit is due. I don't think it would be possible for me to make 100 issues of a comic and have literally nothing happen or change. That has to take some genuine effort of some kind.
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>See picture of a women happily with her loving husband and a child
>Reaction is screeching and demanding she be a miserable dyke who doesn't reproduce just like them
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She is a blatant Sonamy self inserter so yeah that's usually how women draw males, but not only fujos
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For them, marriage is just a means to an end for tax benefits. They have so many sexual partners on the side at the same time and they expect straight people to not cringe disgust at that and to just accept it as an alternative expression of love
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IDW is not good. It has one engaging arc which was blatantly just an Archie plot being recycled. Everything after has been some of the worst filler ever. People defend everything about it with "le mandates" but if it sucks it sucks. If mandates are the reason why it sucks then it still sucks. The most successful character in IDW has been grossly misread by her own fandom as a blushing tsundere probably because her real plot has no potential
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Shit like this is why I really wish IDW got a new writer and they made Tangle and Whisper straight again and gave them unnamed boyfriends just to solidify how straight they are.
God could you fucking imagine the nuclear meltdown that would happen on Xwitter. We'd have content to laugh at for weeks on here.
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It's kinda neat.
Metal is a reflection of Sonic's inner self, so he would have the same crush on Amy Sonic does. If Amy clues in on this, she might struggle to accept Sonic's personality despite the cold shell.
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All it would take is one writer depicting an IDW OC doing something heterosexual and it would be impossible to overwrite, decanonize, or take back since they can't do anything heterosexual. IDW characters are allowed to show attraction since there's no mandates protecting their characterization.
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>GR15
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>Shadow is stuck in the nofap cross
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Iizuka said Shadow and Silver aren't related
Amy will only love Sonic or nobody for the rest of her life
Rouge doesn't want to have kids
Sonic doesn't want to have kids
Every Tails love interest is some non canon nobody
Tangle and Whisper aren't lesbians
The only girl who could have fully fallen for Knuckles got decanonized
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>He's referring to an article that said it's rumored that she's from the future or a different planet or something. CD elements.
It's just the Terminator, and Amy's Kyle Reese.
>I came across time for you, Sonic. I love you. I always have.
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First: that's not what "whore" means.
Second:______________________________________________________________________ _________character development
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There's an old fancomic about Rouge and Shadow being roommates with Shadow having a porn addiction. He ends up being fuck buddies with Amy and has sex fantasies about Sally and Rouge. Then he walks in on Rouge and Knuckles roleplaying, has a meltdown and chaos blasts his own house. GUN puts Shadow and Rouge in prison and force them to share each others memories. Shadow now has nothing to lose so he rapes Rouge in the prison cell.
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>>556058578
This image explains exactly why Shadow ISN'T the father. Do you really think this fag came from Shadow's DNA and care? Look at him.
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>Whispangle tards are the same people who attack straight Sonic ships by crying incest even when it's not incest.
Same freaks try to claim Sonic and Miku are siblings. How? Miku's licensed by SEGA and they weren't even made by the same people. They're so alien and weird.
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>>556059036
Why do you expect him to be a carbon copy of Shadow when he will be spending more time with Amy since Shadowhas no time for baby sitting
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You people are delusional. If Movienic turns out to be straight, that woudln't deter Sonadowfags, what would happen is they would all get radicalized into becoming windfags and say the movie broke Sonic's personality by making him attracted to Amy.
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>So she will be much better than JapAmy, got it.
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Amy has her own DNA
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He would be patrol the world to make sure it's a safe place for his new family
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Shade can't use Chaos Control, she just teleports using tech. When you play as her in the hub world it works the same as chaos control tough.
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Don't they imply something like that in Gerald's journal?
>Using his DNA, I was able to overcome every hurdle "Project: Shadow" had put before me. The small, sturdy biped I developed can perfectly interact with Chaos energy. Black Doom wanted me to craft a herald for his future invasion. G.U.N. wants "Project: Shadow" to generate undying soldiers for them. I will play them both for fools.
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>Peaked in SA2.
Sounds about right. Heroes was *not* SA3 and was a slap in the face for all the original fans of the series.
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>G.U.N. wants "Project: Shadow" to generate undying soldiers for them
This don't say much, but could also mean ways to turn their soldiers into "undying soldiers" instead of a bio weapon. One of the reasons Gerald was working on project Shadow is to find a cure for Maria, which would mean using Shadow as a base to heal Maria.
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Metraton reference please
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>They say true love don't come cheap...
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>chili dogs?
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My soul is being pulled in two directions. I can feel it ripping at the seems. The spicy aroma of chili and onions on pork is tantalizingly, but the comfort and textured masterclass of beef between 2 buns and cheese, with any topping you can imagine.
I don’t know which to choose, desu. Both have onions.
Which way shall I go?
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Shadow will never love anyone. Millions of human females kill themselves. Millions more human males weep.
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baka you senpaitachi need to stop eating onions so much desu.
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I don't think it's exactly comedic
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That's fine
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I aim to please
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lol I was gonna post that pic eventually.
>Fear
Nice.
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Wh-what is she doing to Tails?
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Carry on.
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It was a complete fucking waste of everyone's time. They couldn't even do what they wanted to do with it, which was smooth out the lore because the one and only time they address it, they fuck it up completely.
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>Slam dunk it in there
Sonic never said that
>Faker
Sonic never said that
>You turned into a big time villain doctor
Sonic didn't say that
>I die hard
Sonic didn't say that
>Do you know who I am
Sonic didn't say that
just a guy that loves adventure
Sonic didn't say that
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Her too.
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That's eggman visiting.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/77052891
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AI_Knux a lil' bitch.
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Knuckles is underrated. I bet he's fun to bully sexually. Grope his ass and watch his face get all red, the stoic guardian facade cracking at any type of intimacy
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>smooth out the lore
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Sonic Pocket Adventure has a similar situation with Sonic Advance 1 & 2.
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>I'm not leaving
>hmp fine, but you leave when I tell you to leave
Reading AI stories is like watching two people with alzheimer talking with each other. Genuinely can't understand how anyone could read this other than wanting to make ram and chips cost more money
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>Reading AI stories is like watching two people with alzheimer talking with each other.
Its not far off from how millennials write now. Maybe they ate too many cereal with their Saturday morning cartoons growing up and it gave them early onset dementia. I wish I was making that last part up.
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Sometimes I want to make a twitter account to call out the loads of fans who keep acting like Jim Carrey is some kind of angel we're graced to have when he literally sexually assaulted Alicia silverstone on stage and even putting aside moralshit his creative input on the movies has done nothing but make them worse
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In my studies, the most common thing to see fixated on in smut for women is:
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In that order. Obviously they also fixate on how pretty/handsome/rugged the man's face is but different women have different types so the face depictions vary wildly.
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The same reason you fixate on how tits look. Balls are fascinating to me. I wonder what it feels like to have them and touch them. It must be extra good to touch soft fuzzy balls.
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>What specific errors was she making?
Idk how to exactly explain it but she makes the men thing way too hard and deeply during sex and making out. I get that she's trying to be emotional and romantic but most guys aren't thinking like "I have to be delicate with her while pounding because I don't want to destroy her." when they're going at it. At most we'll probably be thinking something like "This might be hurting her but she'll say so if it's too much."
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I've been kicked hard in the nuts.Just the once. Never again.
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>the most popular game in high school was trying to kick each other in the nuts
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I slipped my foot between one of these in Elementary School.
It was more like a connecting bridge though.
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Oh so I'm not the only one who had to live through that stupid game. In hindsight that shit was gay as hell since guys were literally touching other guy's balls.
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Oh, I see now. To be honest I have made that mistake myself while fantasizing. It's difficult not to project that type of thinking. "Ooga booga me want sex me hump" is very shallow and uninteresting to me. What is the point of it without love? But now that I think about fics I've read from men, it makes sense. There's hardly any build up or emotional attachment in comparison to what women write.
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Little girls are pure, I would never ruin that.Except maybe Cream.
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It's not pure primal thought. Men can get into that kind of romantic mood too and it's not like we don't think about our partners and how much they're enjoying it. It just boils down to what sex is for the two.
Women get horny over emotional and romantic stuff because sex is a sign of commitment and meant for bonding for them.
For men, it's more like a hunger or a thirst. We have sex because sex makes us feel good. Again tho, it's not black and white and there is some nuance. You're going to have a hard time finding a guy who's going to bang some random chick he's never met before because it's awkward for us too when it's someone we don't know at all.
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Why is Knuckles such a hot slut?
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How does he do it?
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I know it's not that black and white, men are capable of love and romance. It still doesn't help that feeling I get that it's shallow. What about Shadow/Maria and Silver/Blaze, both written by a man? Isn't that the type of writing a woman would want?
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>>556068309
Much like with Crossworlds, there's no story ergo nothing to actually put on the timeline. Sonic Drift 1, 2, and Sonic R have stories granted very brief ones.
There was consideration given Amy used her flying car in an IDW comic but IDW has since admitted their shit doesn't line up with the games (thanks Editor for failing to keep track of things).
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My favorite joke.
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Stop conversing nicely like normal people and start aggressively attacking each other for no reason. This is a Sonic general, act like it
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>What about Shadow/Maria and Silver/Blaze, both written by a man?
I haven't actually read any Shadria or Silvaze fanfics by men, now that I'm thinking about it. Those are pretty dominated by women. I'd imagine that if it was written by a man, the focus would be how nice, warm and comforting their SO is to them and how much they want to protect and cherish them.
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Both Sonamy and Sonally involve changing Sonic's character to an extent that has never been seen in the games and are out of character. It doesn't matter if Evan Stanley, who works on IDW says. It doesn't matter what Naoto Oshima says, he hasn't worked on the story of a Sonic game in three decades. It doesn't matter if Sonic has random comments in Frontiers that vaguely suggest he would like to date her. There is nothing in the games to suggest that Sonic the Hedgehog would ever want to be in a romantic relationship with anyone. Ever.
People who disagree with this always have to rely on things that aren't in the videogames or retroactively framing the "dates" from Unleashed, 06, and Black Knight. None of those games actually show Sonic enthusiastically taking Amy on a date, something paramount for a romantic relationship. At their very worst, these come across as pity dates.
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He learnt from the best.
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>Eggman music kicks in
Based and topkek.
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Yeah I'm not touching the can of worms of answering why Sonic is a cop or how he got his hands on a starship.
Sega AM1 made that stuff, not Sonic Team. Could be canon. I don't rule it out.
Also, lol at Sonic's voice acting.
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Why does every amatuer voice actor specifically try to emulate the sound of Los Angeles made anime english dubs? They sound that way so that they can fit lip flaps, copy Japanese voice cadence and they hire the same 7 guys and girls every time. This isn't an artistic choice.
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We finally made it to the end. Did it make you horny?
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Careful, they can be a real handful.
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https://youtu.be/zsVKMpQiSiU?si=9mYzyTJA_Bzyl33W
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Sometimes male fantasies and female fantasies overlap perfectly without meaning to.Geez it's almost like as if we're the same species and supposed to like each other or something.The writer for FMA made some of the most wholesome couples and ships in anime and she's a woman.
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https://yarn.co/yarn-clip/6d93c05f-d9d1-4d92-b0f7-e9dace370f52
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>got vaulted for over 14 years because Free Riders was complete shit
>their big return was an underperformance sales wise despite all the crossover shill characters to boost it
What is wrong with these guys? Why can't they carry anything?
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>give them a shit game for a failed gimmick that had no chance succeeding
>take them out of their environment and shove them into a soulless kart racer
It started with ZG when they started to move away from the more saturated visuals and dropped the 2D assets, but they've been doing nothing but sabotaging them after Riders 1.
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I will love you more when it all burns downI will love you more when it all burns down
More than power, more than gold (yeah)More than power, more than gold (yeah)
Yeah, you gave me your heart, now I'm here for your soulYeah, you gave me your heart, now I'm here for your soul
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And here's the sequel.
https://files.catbox.moe/h1x23h.mp4
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>>556070585
What the fuck is their appeal actually meant to be?
>What if we made Sonic into an unlikable bird asshole?
>What if we made Tails into a mean bird girl?
>What if we made Boom Knuckles about 8 years in advance?
They're a group of petty thugs with the only interesting thing about them being their unexplained Babylon lore which has been abandoned since 2008.
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>What if we made Sonic into an unlikable bird asshole?
Jet has almost the exact same personality that Archienic has
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>>556070879
yes there are, what they don't understand that is a design choice by japanese people to make sonic look more anime (japanese), you can see that type of eyes design all over anime stuff, klonoa for example. sonic having black eyes is cool, but green eyes are even cooler and more edgy.
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Reminder that anyone who's remotely intelligent has pointed out since early 2025 that CrossWorlds was going to flop due to Sega paying all these companies to use their characters, many Sonic fans feeling alienated because of the shitty roster, and Mario Kart World + Kirby Air Riders being much better racing games.
Now with the recent Puyo Puyo controversy and CrossWorlds failing to meet expected sales, people are realizing that CrossWorlds was never a good game to begin with.
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I know, they're another example of Sonic Team fumbling their characters. The Rogues have their niche, and ST destroyed it. And Crossworlds being more of a showcase just means they're included for appearances and nothing else.
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The only people who dislike green eyes are classic purists. The eye colors injects new life and energy to the characters look, just like the Adventure era itself. That's why I think the classic designs are kinda dull in comparison, they look good but the black eyes makes them lack that extra color that gives them more life. Ueakawa's graffiti artstyle also helps
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Never forget all the fucking gaslighting.
>N-NO MARIO KART WORLD IS IRRELEVANT
>N-NO KIRBY IS IRRELEVANT
>WE DO NOT NEED MORE SONIC CHARACTERS, WE NEED MORE MORE CROSSOVERS
Crossworlds was an example of how full of shills this fandom has gotten. Nobody wants the truth anymore.
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And another.
https://files.catbox.moe/20xuws.mp4
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It's kind of crazy that Kirby and Sonic have never had a crossover when the two franchises artistically go well together but Kirby has had a crossover with Metroid and Kid Icarus. I think Kirby is one of the few franchises that Nintendo doesn't have 100% control over so it's not like Hal Labs couldn't work with Sonic Team if they wanted.
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>>556072624
Puyo Puyo just celebrated it's 35th anniversary and nothing good came out of it.
>There's a new decal to celebrate the anniversary in CrossWorlds, but no playable Arale
>A new web series, but doesn't feature any of the memorable characters from the series. Just the Puyos
>The new merchandise isn't good and of course, Japan exclusive
>Compile making a public apology for pissing off fans, mentioning they can't announce shit due to Sega not allowing them
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>The literal first scene where Goku and Bulma interact, Bulma tries to seduce Goku and stares at his dick several times.
It's crazy how much perverted stuff Toriyama was able to put in his stuff. Nobody mentions the fact that Bulma flashed like half the fucking cast in OG DB.Oh yea, she was 14 when Roshi was trying to smash.
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>devalue Kirby
Kirby has the lowest critics of Nintendo for most of his games. Much like Sonic, Kirby has sold nothing but slop for decades except instead of trying to reinvent the wheel every time they sold the literally same product every time.
Kirby's image is nothing but being a cute mascot with no personality and his collab potential cannot possibly ruin something that is already ruined.
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Toriyama should have worked on a Sonic game
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>>556073646
Because Pokemon didn't spend a literal decade apologizing to their millennial fanbase for the 2000s games and dropping all of the lore + interesting storytelling for unfunny western meta comedy that actual fans don't like
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Here is a very very simple truth. Too easy > Too hard. It doesn't matter how shit the game is. If the game is shit and too hard, people will hate it, if the game is shit and too easy, people will overlook that for the monster designs, story, world building ect. Sonic games are shit and too hard, Pokemon games are shit and too easy. It is hard to get frustrated playing a Pokemon game. You can be mentally disabled and still beat the hardest pokemon game. Even Sonic Forces can make people angry with its difficulty.
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>>556073646
>tons of cute mons
>tons of cute humans
>games are much simpler, just pick up and enjoy
>various other ways of enjoy the franchise even if you aren't into vidya
Meanwhile Sonic struggles with simple genre flexibility.
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The reason why Pokemon succeeded and Sonic failed is a lot simpler than you guys are making it out to be.
Pokemon lets you play out your fantasy of raising a bunch of cute/cool monsters.
Sonic has consistently failed to let you play out the fantasy of playing as Sonic. So consistent is this failure, that even Sonic fans expect the games to fail at it.
For all the faults that Pokemon has in it's games, the glitches, the graphics genuinely looking worse than N64 games, the nonsensical stories and redesigns and all the rest, at the end of the day I can still pick up the newest Pokemon game, catch a few Pokémon that catch my interest and train and raise them.
When was the last time (You) picked up a Sonic game and actually enjoyed playing as Sonic?
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newcomers can get into pokemon absurdly easy like you don't even need to play the games or even watch the anime
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maybe I'm wrong but I remember fans complaining about the lack of abilities and challenge on forgotten land, the way they fix the lack of abilities with levels was super lame. its sad you don't care about the lore is kinda neat.
yeah sonic have bigger problems but to say doesn't is a dumpsterfire too its just a lie, hell even animal crossing has its shit
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Even the worst Pokemon games are far better than the worst Sonic game. Like for how shitty Pokemon ORAS can be, at least it has great character design, great music, decent storytelling, and fun multiplayer scenes despite having so many issues that can drag down the experience. There's literally nothing for something like Colors, Lost World, Forces, Boom, and even arguably Gens. They have no redeeming qualities and they come off as desperate pandering than being genuine or ambitious.
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>Dexit changed how I play Pokémon in two ways:
>I can't use fun teams anymore, like "Ungulates only," "fossils only," or "just my favorite Pokémon." I'm kinda just stuck using what the game gives me. If I raise a cool Pokémon that I am proud of, I kinda just have to accept that next gen I won't be able to use it anymore.
>More importantly, I don't trust GameFreak anymore. Before Dexit, I was a diehard fan who maybe was frustrated with some GameFreak decisions but trusted the company and bought every Pokémon game day one. Their games were a big part of my childhood and culture in the 90's, so they had a lot of goodwill from me. Now, I am very careful and selective of which Pokémon games (if any) I buy. I don't trust any of their trailers, interviews, and professional reviews. Leaks are necessary to know if their games will ACTUALLY be good. I bought Shield used and am skipping SV for the time being. Dexit and their response to Dexit completely destroyed my faith and trust in the developers
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>When was the last time (You) picked up a Sonic game and actually enjoyed playing as Sonic?
Honestly, Sonic Advance on an emulator.
Something about the way the characters handle in that game feels comfy and the music is really relaxing, especially Cosmic Angel Zone.
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>spoiler
I know that feel bro. Frontiers ironically would have been kino if the maps were smaller or it played like a real H&S with Sonic having better combos. The novelty wears off fast and the Cyberspace zones handling like shit kill that game.
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This doesn't really disprove what he said. The cast after 06 are literally just NPCs. Even if you count Rush (you should), those games are only meant for Sonic and Blaze and her story. Storybook games are spinoffs, Sonic 4 is only Sonic and Tails, Forces is Sonic with a Shadow reskin along with create-a-character and Santiago. They were not using the cast after 06 and it makes no sense to pretend they were.
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>Metal
I didn't mention him because he was a more forgettable reskin of Sonic playable in only a fraction of the game. The only difference is that he can't drown.
>another spinoff
That's nice.
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Would Shadow say this?
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I warned all of you, now I have to cum in all your assholes.
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Cream thanks (You) for your service.
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heyyy guys it's the blossom anon again! things going well? until /co/ finally gets less strict about PPG stuff expect to see me around here lmao, I'll post about sonic stuff too don't worry