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Pollux love

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Why does GDoll call the keeper puppy when they've hissed twice and never barked? Is she stupid?

>>556106794
She lobotomised herself. Of course she is stupid.

Which D-Zone should I be taking Lemurians to? I tried D-Zone 3 Alert 2 and wiped but am able to do Alert 1 and I'm wondering if I should be taking them to a different battle that's more suited to them. Honestly I feel like Goliath and Faros don't even do anything for me and it's all on Tulu and Miryam, I wish it showed me a nice damage breakdown

>>556110242
when people here say Lemurians theyre generally assuming GMurphy is involved because she gives by far the strongest and most build-enabling bonus. point being I don't have any sense of what should be expected of the other four without her.

>>556110778
Well that sure is unfortunate for me. To be honest reading the prior couple of threads I'd assumed Tulu's Lemurian passive was the core of the team

When should I unlock GRamona?

>>556112432

At Alert 2, Goliath can still do decent damage. Spend a few turns pumping up tentacle damages > Red tentacle > Goliath Exalt, right option

>>556112669

When you want to use her, which could be now, the next year, or never. In my opinion just unlock her now so you have her to play around with.

>>556112669
whenever you feel like it
i unlocked her after 5 months of playing the game lol. but i barely play characters that like having her around, like kath, so i didn't really feel like i needed her

>>556112669
Whenever you're comfortable with your standard awakener roster and wheels. Her kit is a bit harder to use than regular Ramona, and I'm pretty sure they count as one awakener for D-tide, so there's no rush unless you really like her.

>>556108087
Only geniuses can manage to lobotomize themselves. She is just too smart for the plebs to understand.

>>556112880
>>556112970
>>556112989
Oh, I meant when does she appear in the story.

>>556113553
You should do her event before chapter 7. You can actually spend the cores to unlock her later.

>>556113553
First appears in her own event story. She is mentioned in CH7. As for story appearence. End of chapter 9 and onward.

>>556090726
Tulu is not evil! The worst thing he's done is lying to a crazy woman in order to comfort her and her almost causing some world ending disasters because of it.

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One day I will stop hoarding
But nyot today

>>556116589
So is the story he is based on also referencing Cthulhu or is it somebody else?

>>556117339
why wouldn't you bring your favorite to 80?

>>556117339
Please, sir... just a crumb of blue balls...

>>556116589
I'd say almost causing an apocalypse makes you pretty evil even if it came from good intentions so my uooooooh still stands.

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QRD on Daffodil? And when is Hameln getting a rerun?

>>556119617
You provide skulls she provides damage

>>556119849
How do I scale her though? Clem?

>>556120063
Clem is really good yeah but she mainly scales with kills

>>556119617
>QRD on Daffodil?
>Daffodil
>QRD
She is hard to play. Hope that helps. Jokes aside. Make sure to give her last hit as often as possible. She benefits from exploration stages and killing normal enemies. ALWAYS make sure she can last hit. Main thing is her Thousand Mirrages exalt that allows you to create your cards and orison them. You use her cards as sorta setup/nuke. And you need decent STR stacker and dupes for her to go online. That's honestly about it. Have someone who can ramp STR + make sure she kills enemies for her reaver damage. It's mostly about timing.

>>556120174
>>556120110
So she's definitely not someone you want to take into boss only D-Zones unless you're gonna make her a buff bot with Erogenous Tides?

>>556119617
the best pandia support

>>556120373
correnct

>>556117397
It's 99% likely Cthulhu yeah but we can't be certain at this point because the "god" Tulu was connected to disappeared or stopped responding for whatever unknown reason towards the end of Lemuria.
I guess we'll know in November when GTulu's chapter releases.

>>556120373
as someone who owns everyone around the E3 level Daffodil is the most useless limited awakener even more so than Wanda. the way her exalt works is you have to build around it very hard with strength scaling which just isn't worth doing before OE because it won't do enough, and her command cards are really bad in general. i'm not saying this to be mean but just so you understand the challenge of trying to find an appropriate place to slot in a

>>556121675
No, I am talking about that one document from the fanbase about Awakeners and their inspirations. Tulu is Ctlulhu but also something else, a short story about a guy who is dreaming that he is something deep under the sea and needs to wake up.

>>556123458
>>556120373
And as a daff main ill say that you dont "find" a spot for any carry, you make it
And i played her a lot before i got her OE and can say that she works perfectly well but you have to play around her and her strenghts, her OE is not even great unless you're poison stacking
Obviously she's not for every type of player but definitely not useless if you like her

>>556125246
Alright, I'll plan for Daffodil, Xu, and I'm sure I'll find two more seductresses whose kits work here with Poison stacking and damage

>>556125246
her OE is even better for temp counter than it is for poison, and what else is there to play for?

>>556126097
I wont argue that its strong, i was saying that her OE vs reg exalt for temp counter isnt as big a diff as poison bc you can carry it over to ultra, going from 3 to 2 isnt as big as 5 to 3

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I WILL cum inside Karen!

>>556127397
does she retain it

>>556125246
Can you give me an example team?

>>556128526
I've been enjoying her with clem + xu + thais but it's a rather expensive team

morinut

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IA! TOHU WA BOHU!
IA! MANA-YOOD-SUSHAI!
IA! AZATHOTH!

>>556133407
AzaTHOTH? More like the Idiot

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>>556127564
Remind me again why I shouldn't stick my dick in this cute bug

So for D-Zone 1, I should take a Defense/Counter team. Thinking Alva/Ogier/Tinct/Nautila. Zone 5 wants Poison so probably Xu/Thais and two mystery slots. Probably Salvador and Agrippa?
and I have no idea what Zones 2 and 4 want from me. I'm quite weak so one of those I should probably sweep with a borrowed Kathigu-Ra right? Making teams for this mode sucks when you're still missing like half the cast.

>>556143819
if you aren't using Caecus anywhere consider replacing Tinct on the first team with him, it will be a major improvement

>>556144474
Even at E0L1? I can pump some exp into him, but probably not card levels.

>>556144661
at lvl 1 no
his enlightens are pretty important too so I'd roll blue for a bit until I got him to E2 at least, ideally to E3

>>556143819

W2 relic help with STR, but the main thing you need to know about the Jenkins boss is that she'll hit you harder if you hit her during her burst turns, so don't do that.

W4 specifically wants a team that can survive without exalting every turn, or you could just one-shot the boss with Mouchette.

W5 wants a team that doesn't play a lot of cards per turn.

how long is Xu's story more or less?
gotta remember to do it before event ends

>>556146360
just skip through and play it when you have the time

>>556146507
you might be a genius

>>556145348
>W4 specifically wants a team that can survive without exalting every turn
Funny how Clem is the only awakener that can remove madness. Very funny.

>>556146360
It's only about 4 story nodes long, there are no combat maps, and none of them take much time unless you read slow like me. The posse is pretty nice for Xu-centric teams with lots of keyflare.

>>556146757
got it, i was juts worried about time cause it says you should clear arc 2 ch2 first and i'm not there yet, but as the other anon said i will just skip thru it for now and catch up later

>>556146958
The story will become available to unlock later, so no worries

>>556128984
Am I retarded? Daffo doesn't poison enemies unless you create a custom card for it. Why Xu?

>>556150597
>unless you create a custom card for it
you're so close

>>556150597

There's only two real choices in her exalt, poison or counter.

Playing her require you to know which button to press and when.

I think anon's core issue if that Daffo doesn't inflict any poison on her cards. Exalt excluded. Which is very un-poison thing for poison focused team.

>>556151895
>>556152281
I always pick the 5x STR one because I consider it the strongest.

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>>556154058
>I always pick the 5x STR
>I consider it the strongest
UNGA
GOD

>>556150597
with Daffodil you ideally set up two 0 cost poison cards in ultra space, then on the ultra round use them with another poison card you exalt and huge str stacking to ideally inflict tens of thousands of poison in one turn. This requires a huge # of things to go right and requires tons of messing around setting up for boss fights. Theres a stupid take people like to repeat over and over that ultra is le difficult to play and its generally not, outside of Daffodil who requires this nonsense to be functional as a character (and Wanda for reasons unrelated to the ultra mechanic).

Ofc you can also just roll Daffodil OE and ignore the ultra space nonsense because the 75% scaling on the ultra round in mixed teams means you want to use your cards outside of ultra round anyways.

>>556154058
x5 > x2
dont let anyone tell you otherwise, king

Time to morishill

Sucks that Xu's event doesn't give any exp.

>>556159000
The first node does, doesn't it?

>>556156610
Explain yourself, chad...

>>556159237
You are correct. I was only looking at the shop.

>>556159760
the red number is bigger

>400 two rotations ago
>390 last rotation
>385 this rotation
i couldnt beat a single alert5 this week....

>>556165680

W2 and W5 is particularly brutal (compared to last two rotations, but only W5 is "hard" by the usual dtide standards imo), but you should be able to beat one alert 5 with a borrowed Mouchette, she destroys everything.

>>556166107
I could maybe get 5 more points if I'm able to alert5 wave 1 with a borrowed mouchette, I just have no teammates for her after Dorestink took Thais, Kath took Tinct, my own Mouchette took Helot+Aegis, and the bird boys needed Faint to A4W5. I also kind of hate all the pre-boss fights with mouchette NGL.

I'd have a similar point outcome if I was able to get discard (corpoE3 murphyE1 auritaE3 casiah E0) into a state where it could W1A4 but man that team feels absolutely hopeless.

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tfw i got 2 salvadors on realm study before i pulled a single faint

How good is Daffo's E3?

>>556168443

Then borrow a ghelot for W3, she fucks over Leigh, you'll only need some sustain (or death res), skey bot, and a lone seed posse.

>>556169946
it's a very small bonus

>>556169946
its 3 str per insight on a very leveled daff in arc2. it was released in a comically broken state (it would be 40 str per insight) and brought down so hard that it could never be a real problem again.

>>556170336
I could try that, could W1A4 with Xu and W4A4 with GMurphy (who both cleared W3A4) and it would be +5 points overall. Though lemurians vs madness bug could suck... we'll see might have to move other stuff as well.

>>556165680
d-tide is too high effort for me, I'll never beat alert 5

>>556171947
The bosses present an interesting challenge, its the cancer of the normal fights in W1 W2 W5 that filter me the hardest. This is the reason I dont regret my mediocre E3 pollux, he makes normal fights feel good.

>>556172153

They made the last few DPS easier against mobs (and easier to play in general). Kath, Pollux, Gmurphy, and Xu are great against mobs, and Mouchette's only hard fight is the first one.

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>fall for the tawil meme
>stuck in a4 with her forever

>>556174212
I will soon start gambling for her/them.

>>556174473
my condolences

>>556173430
Yeah Kath and especially Lemurians are relaxing. Mouchette still stresses me tho, because even if you have energy for T1 exalt you cant do anything with it if you dont have a bunch of mouche in hand. Grace Through Pain helps but I play Lily so mouche cant have it.

I dont find Xu that great vs alert4+ tier mobs, mine isnt turn 1 killing anything and str down only does so much. She's an improvement but its still pretty painful.

>>556174212
I'm on my way to having eight alert4 teams and dont use my E2 Tawil in any of them. Feels good getting to use Hameln with real awakeners.

>>556174621
I find the gameplay fun. I will probably try to get her from the Chaos gacha and then go to the mines.

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why doesnt your account look like this?

>>556174212
Flares thinks very highly of her so there must be a reason for it

>>556177871
I dislike autistic, retarded fishes.

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>>556177871
because it looks like this

>>556177871
hey a well invested Caecus, very nice
>11 omen
I can't even begin to image how many resources that must've taken

>>556177894

She still absolutely clears. You can see this from (mostly) non-English names on the leaderboard. That being said, playing her fucking sucks, especially against mobs.

Why not nerf the trash mobs? I just don't get it, I want to have fun, but I can't get to where the fun is, why make garbage trash mobs so fucking hard.
No wonder the whales I added when I first started in January, are all gone, even money can't help you if you don't do everything perfectly (talking about dtide story was okay).

I hope they change course soon if they want more player retention, guess I will be cucked out of A5 for a long time.

>>556174635

Throw Aigis with some madness omen, Tulu's wheels, and Gdoll's SR wheel on any team that you want the have an easier time with normal fights. It's stupid and I love it.

I guess for Xu it was more of making poison team having an easier time in mobs (gdoll lol). I usually spend like five turns on the first fight then cruise through everything with Gdoll Xu Lily Nymphaea.

My most important tip for anyone trying for A5 would be to spend a turn or two durdle a bit before ending each fights.

>>556179325
because when they make the game easier, certain people start complaining
and to be fair a5 isn't for everyone, there should be some kind of super hard mode for whales to play with their toys and that's fine

>>556180841
>>556179325
I haven't experienced it yet but if I get stronger in time, I also expect the game to get harder so that I can keep having fun. I know it is autistic but I prefer it over how modern arknights or other gachas are for example.

>>556180841
>certain people start complaining
Gatekeeping your game for less revenue is fine with me, I was just going through my friend list yesterday, and after a month of play I saw some whales I added on early 5 of them left, they have 1 to 2 month of play time. That's when I realized that they were not having fun, and I asked myself do I have fun, the answer was yes, but I understood their mindset as to why they would leave even after spending so much.

morismooch

>>556180841
yes I'm at 385 after 68 days just on alert4s. yeah I swiped a lot but I really shouldnt be able to 400 yet, I dont own any limited or standard OEs I have years of optimization/improvement ahead and I'm glad there's still something pushing me forward for a long time.

>>556179325
they're there to build exalt etc, nerfing them leads to less setup time and also makes the game shallower

>>556181174
Whales have money where their souls should be. They buy out and max an entire character roster in a gacha over the course of a few months, get bored at the gameplay being "too easy," and move on to a different gacha they haven't bought out yet. People like them are the reason we have so much gacha slop these days.

I like to imagine there's some alternate timeline where Morimens is an incredible single-player game without any gacha involved.

>>556186952
>I like to imagine there's some alternate timeline where Morimens is an incredible single-player game without any gacha involved
Is that not just this timeline when Morimens inevitably goes EoS? I remember reading that the dev team would make an offline version when that happens.

>>556187105
Maybe, but that would also mean they'd have to rush the ending of the current arc (again) and leave lots of things unexplored.

>>556187432
>Maybe, but that would also mean they'd have to rush the ending of the current arc (again) and leave lots of things unexplored.
If you mean current arc as in "whatever arc the game is on when EoS hits" then yeah that's a good point, I dunno of any gacha game with a plot that actually ended the story as intended and then went EoS soon afterwards.

Just fought N for the first time. He looks very interesting. I love this game.

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Considering who I have now, is there anyone specific I should start saving limited rolls for?
Also, are there any teams I can start making?

>>556192537
it's early arc 1 for you, so just play Xu and use her 3 cost to kill everything.

morinight

>>556192537
>is there anyone specific I should start saving limited rolls for?
Horla is a good support that should be rerunning relatively soon
>are there any teams I can start making?
you can play caro/aequor poison with Xu/Miryam/Murphy/Agrippa

>>556193008
Yeah, that's what I've been doing.
>>556197782
Thanks.

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Winkle bedtime sex!

>>556181174

You can also click on the leaderboard, almost the entirety of 425 people are whales who still love playing the game for what it is and challenge themselves with sub par teams. You simple don't have enough characters and wheels in the game for ten optimized teams.

>>556208162
reminds me of that discussion from the last thread or two threads ago about what having an autistic winkle gf would be like

>>556211328
this game does a great job scratching the theorycrafting optimization autism itch I get

>>556211585
winkle pegging

>>556212342
Why would I peg winkle when I have a perfectly functional penis?

>>556212342
winkle pegging you and then using her ultra turn to go extra hard

>>556213552
>you think she's spent
>she exalts
>the strap-on can now exalt a second time this turn

mental illness is so rampant I have to filter shit in a thread with not even a dozen poster, that's the price I pay for playing a mixed toilet.

vmg fears the ovipositor

>>556214149
fuck off brownoid

no need to give me (you)s faggot, stay quiet and bump the thread

>>556211328
Why do they challenge themselves with subpar teams? Is it easy if you go full meta?

>>556216365

Because you need 10 teams to do 425, which is 39 unique characters and 78 unique wheels in a game with a total of 53 characters and 123 wheels.

You'll see some extremely sus teams doing Alert 5.

>>556215195
You are mentally ill. Treat it while it's time, Ali.

>Ali.
who are you projecting your little feud to you fag, not everybody is your enemy, but being diddled as a kid will do that to some of you I guess

I wonder if the developers consider Thais a mistake.

>>556219767

You can google translate JP Thais kit below

https://gamerch.com/morimens/954364

She's definitely nerfed (like most things in JP), but she still has mostly the same kit.

>>556220410
her hand size wheel being aliemus regen instead of keyflare regen seems like a pretty big nerf though that isn't really a nerf to her
getting the -1 cost from devour instead baseline and not getting an additional -1 from e2 seems like a huge nerf, she doesnt really seem worth investing in past e0 in jp

>>556222246
Don't you get anything out of her if you go past E2?

>>556220410
That's fucking bizarre. Like her dupes look like she wants to become some sort of aliemus regen scaling subDPS(e1 adds scaling, e3 adds 100% crit).

>>556223528
on global, e3 passively increases embryo generation which is relevant for longer fights and oe shits out babies/constantly upgrades to superbabies
on jp basically every single one of her upgrades tries to make her some sort of dps despite her not having any damaging skills

>>556224898
It's really funny because JP also removed the poison on her exalt. Hypothetically, dropping a fat stack of poison could have semi justified her changes(given the lower general powerlevel of JP).

>>556224898
>>556225621
Next questions. What are other Awakeners that require minimal investing. Or let's say the E0-E2 range.

>>556226153
jp or global?

>>556226340
Global. Unless we will become JP eventually.

>>556226410
thais, castor, horla, hameln, murphy, gmurphy, miryam, ryker

>>556226783
Isn't GMurphy whalebait?

>>556226153
Hameln and whorela, on global at least. I don't think anyone plays JP here.
>>556227192
Gmurphy is great from the get go. She just gets even better. It's basically an A+ character going to S+.

>>556227192
yes and no
yes because her OE is very strong and turns her into one of the best dps in the game
no because she's already quite good without it

>>556227312
Horla is very cool and I might get more copies of her if I have the resources to do so. I don't know about the musician guy, he felt like a Tawil support when I tried him several weeks ago.

>>556227556
Word of advice on horla, stop at e1. e2 is arguably the only dupe that is detrimental. Giving all her cards retain might sound good but you'd rather not have them clog your hand. Happy stance already lets you keep them around anyway since it gives everything retain. As far as hameln goes, he is a pretty general support. Free insight cards+ STR is nice is basically any team. Discounted or doubled cards from his rouse is nice in any team. And a doubled cast from his exalt is nice in any team. Like you won't always take him but he is pretty much never bad.

>>556228229
I don't know what I was doing but I already know how annoying clogging your hand is. Doresain's gimmick caught me off guard as well but it wasn't him.

I've been a Horla d2 defender for sometime but it's less useful now that you can use Mouchette's SR wheel on her for Vulnerability on demand.

moribump

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(Big Arc1 Spoiler) man, going back to read the events after you beat Arc1 really adds to any Dexter scene. We should throw bottles at Mr. N for some of the shit he does

>>556236815
Does the game explain why or he can't help it?

Now I think about it. Will we ever going to see committee again.

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>>556237262
It's the latter. You just know that in Sorel's event when the whole "You'll always have my back, right dad?" "Of course dear :)" scene was happening that N was laughing his ass off

>>556238526
I need to catch up.

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>>556228229
Why is retain considered good on everyone except for Horla E2?

>>556239153

The only "problem" with Horla e2 is her 2 cost; the card is expensive for the cost and tends to get stuck in your hand eating up your handsize. All of her other cards are great to stay in your hand. If you can sell that card, the problem goes away.

For Karen, I think Flares is viewing from the perspective of her playability with Tawil teams, which tend to focus on deck cycling, so it's a plus.

>>556239153
Part of the reason is that a lot of horla's best teammates want to fill the hand with their own cards. And you can't do that if horla is eating up all your handspace. In karen's case you gotta keep in mind it's only two of her cards that eat hand space and a lot of her best teammates aren't just letting all their cards sit in your hand until a burst turn. Karen is also like that from the get go, if you are playing a comp that ends up too tight on handspace you just wouldn't bring her to begin with. Meanwhile you COULD bring e0-e1 horla but might struggle to fit e2.

>>556239153
What doc is that?

>>556241069
That's flares' guide.

>>556241069
Just a fair warning. You might need new pair of eyes after reading this.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cC7FOebdy_J2hONmVT1QUSk6SxIRTuVoI4XADVlq5JU/edit?gid=1697410364#gid=1697410364

>>556228229
i don't buy this. E2 lets you actually use horla's mechanic and switch psalms on turns you want to with a guarantee you can go back into another psalm the next turn. you can use red much more often with kath. I recently went from E1 to E2 and it's really good. without it you constantly draw into happy psalm with draw cards and miss the transition otherwise.

>>556244617

It's comp dependent, which is why it's "arguably" worse. Kath doesn't care about it, Castor/Pollux does, and Ghelot does to some extent. Mainly, those who regularly hit the hand size limit will care about it.

>>556245185
i've had fewer hand issues with E2 because I'm allowed to leave joy. you will constantly feather into psalms with castor which is a big nuisance without E2. If there are actual players who regret activating E2 fine they've seen both sides of it I guess they're entitled to their opinion.

>>556246026
I think the biggest issue is that if you activate it and realize it fucks something you play you can't unactivate it. Why games don't include toggles for these things if only to let people test out weaker builds I'll never understand. I've played plenty of gacha where a skill ends up messing up certain things. Zhuge's stun.....

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>>556248083
if there is anyone who owns horla E2 and regrets it I'd like to hear from them. but i get the feeling this idea that horla E2 bad only comes from here.

>>556245185
I would rather have guarenteed vulnerable on retain for the burst turn than an extra feather/heart/flail.

>>556248306

My Horla is OE so you don't have to convince me.

That being said you should really use Mouchette's SR wheel with her, that's a guarantee vulnerability.

>>556241345
You were not wrong jeez

Going for E1 Horla and will try my luck at E2 Pickman then, will wait for the new blue character first just in case though.

is manor echoes bugged? i swear it doesnt draw a card for me

>>556255689
It works for me, but the card kind of sneaks in there sometimes it's not always clear what got drawn.

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Good mor(i)ning, bros

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>>556255689
Is it supposed to draw?

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>>556257364
well it certainly doesnt draw shit for me so looks like a mistranslation yea

>>556255689
>>556257364
>>556257602
it gives 1 arithmetica instead of drawing

>>556257364
Are you meant to use them with the Awakener? I am using the Mist one with Mooch and it kind of slaps even if the + 3 arithmetica feels better.

>>556262672
varies from character to character but they are usually pretty good

>>556262672
if you have a way to guarantee her strikes in your hand (helot devour, ch 7 gimmick, etc) the +3 arithmetica is better but technically its draw 2 almost always good cards and gain 2 arithmetica so i prefer it on mouchette teams
some are designed for explicit use with their awakener (doresain, xu, pickman, kath) explicitly do bonus effects if you have them on your team and are worse than normal posses without them
especially relevant if you are doing dzone because you cant use the same posse in multiple teams

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What are Doresain's issues and how bricked am I without a Lily for poison?

>>556271726
>Doresain's issues
He scales with enemy missing hp so against a boss with 2 million hp it takes him a really long time before he can start dealing meaningful damage. Also generates 0 cost cards when last hitting enemies which becomes progressively harder when even trash mobs on alert 5 can have 30-50k hp. His signature also has scaling from last hits so the same issue there. He's basically a win more character.

>without a Lily for poison
You can play poison without her just fine.

>>556271726
>What are Doresain's issues
His cards will prioritize enemy with least HP. Which means his targeting is actually quite fucked during some fights. Also he can't generate corpses fast enough if there is no adds to kill and no adds means no special card to play. This things affect his damage. He is ok otherwise. Well you still need to cover for his STR needs and someone who can punch the boss a bit. Or you meant plot?
>how bricked am I without a Lily for poison
Lily is stat stick and her poison is irrelevant for the most part. Poison teams do struggle with survivability. But any other tank will do.

>>556271726
Doresain just doesn't damage enough, and has almost no tools to help you drag out a fight (which you'll need to do because his damage is low). it doesn't help that april praise is a bad fit for his kit and crimson pulse is so mediocre by comparison and he has no other choices.

>>556271726
Even though Doresain has a better design, it would be better for your account to roll Pickman coming really soon

>>556271726

> how bricked am I without a Lily for poison?
You can play Ultra Xu, I think Chaos is way better but Lily (and Gdoll) is the reason to play Chaos

>>556273462
> her poison is irrelevant for the most part. Poison teams do struggle with survivability
Lily with Xu is how you steamroll A5 mobs with a poison comp. She tanks everything and does just enough AoE poison for mobbing. She can also do significant damage against multihit enemies.

>>556279586
>lily
what about no signature WoD E1 lily

After watching flares do dtide, turns out I really like Wanda's kit even though her design is whatever, what a fun character.
What's her enlighten stopping point?

>>556281372

E1 should be fine on A4, but she will be a lot less consistent without her WoD + Alva's WoD combo.

Do note that Lily is a shielder, and just like all shielders, she scales extremely hard with stats, so soulforge and levels matter a lot. Specifically for Lily, you'll also need a Feast from Afar covenant with a lot of death resist (my set is 90%).

Yeah, high investment, I know.

>>556281768
E3, you'll barely get any Dreamlure stack without E3

>>556282317
>soulforge
so it's worth buying the shard thingies from the shop right?

>>556282480

It's the first thing you buy from that shop; ALWAYS buy it.

Passive effects aside, the difference in total stats between Soulforge level 0 and level 10 is 30%, the same as the difference between level 60 and 90.

>>556281768
>>556282317
Doesn't she stack the counter buff?

>>556281768
I find Caecus to be the most fun counter character. There's just something incredibly satisfying about copying (or multicasting) his 3 cost and watching the extra counter numbers and tentacle counters from exalt delete the health bar of the enemy.

>>556287805
I am surprised Pandia isn't the best one to be honest. She could have even had taunt.

>>556292048
Counter stealing still a niche. I guess. And maybe we going to see G-Pandia one day. Maybe. She is red-headed step child of awakener family after all.

>>556292048
her wheel is the best counter wheel so that's something

>>556292048
>>556293068
counter stealing will always be niche because enemies will never have an amount of counter high enough to threaten themselves with and pandia just doesnt generate enough permanent counter on her own

N's theme is so good.

I am still not getting the Daffodil/Xu combo. Isn't Daffodil's Poison choice the weakest one?

morinight, survive!

>>556302474
You want OE for daff.

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>>556248220
I only did it cause I randomly got E3. I mostly just use her with Caro and yes I do have hand size problems because of it. I wouldn't recommend it simply because Fear is a 2 cost brick.

>>556192537
I added Goliath and Nautila recently, should I focus on getting more copies or focus on wheels at some point? Which wheels are the best to go for?

>>556321996
you can consider rolling ultra for winkle but honestly i'd just start wheel jailing since you seem to have a solid base of standard characters

>>556323391 (me)
>>556321996
go for +12 titan blade and by the time you get it you should know what you want to do next

morinight morifrens

>>556308165
So I can't do it before OE? I am currently missing Clem and decided to try it out on a weaker farm stage. Daffo/Xu/Thais/Horla. I am still missing covenants and my Xu is only E0 but I feel like she does more than Daffo who is E2.

>>556333876
Yeah even with OE Daff, Xu deals about 70%+ of the dmg in that comp

>>556333876
>>556334404 (Me)
And it's honestly rough without at least E3 Xu bc as I said it's a dps Xu comp, whereas she's fine at E0 for supp
You want to stack 10 spellbound fast and pop it on Clem's exalt
Without OE daff you wont get to do 5 poisons in 1 turn (3 normal + 2 on ultra) but you can do 1 + 2
I imagine it still can work but you'll need one more exalt rotation

>>556333876
try liz instead

>>556334687
I don't have it yet. And I think I want to use Thais elsewhere. But I will manage to make it work somehow.
>>556334720
Yeah, mine is e7 so I will give it a try. I guess Xu will still be the one carrying though.

>>556334884
I was considering swapping thais myself cause she's not a key piece and too valuable for other comps
Just dont forget a vuln source if you replace daff too

>>556335314
this is what I wanted to ask some time ago. Isn't Aigis' wod super good on its own?