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Uhhh Venatorbros?

>we want a hero more than W+M1
>NOOOOO SILVER IS AWFUL WHAT DO YOU MEAN I NEED TO LEARN COMBOS AND LAND SHOTS TO BECOME WEREWOLF

Sinclair can copy Silver ult and it only has a 10s cooldown.

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>>556157206
based

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https://youtu.be/Cxvo6Pik4C8?si=JiP6PgzGJSbVfvm5

>be silver
>fight with team to charge ult
>AWOOOOOOOO
>team retreats for no reason

I don't get it

should i try mina, is she a loli

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Sex with Venator

>>556157264
Sinclaire generally has really low ult cooldowns, I had one that was copying my Graves' ult almost at twice the rate she got it and she has a low cooldown ult too.

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>>556157206
Damn, I can't believe he really says that. That's almost as bad as Seven wanting to rape a teenager.

>>556157129
I dunno, I think a lot of people just don't know interracial porn terms. I doubt I would have if I didn't see gross 4chan shitposts.

>>556157342
Have you done this song yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhGomzpHgzw

>>556157248
her werewolf is the definition of w+m1 lol

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*Gives Abrams a speed boost and makes him even harder to kill*
THANK YOU!!

>shoves lane
>gives victor 20% spirit resist
>steals your sinners
>has completely uncontestable boxfarm
>gives victor more resists and heals him
>uninterruptible mass stuns your team

>>556157361
no its literally going to put you on a watchlist
all mina players watch anime, and that's not a good thing

>>556157107
afrobul uses an ai

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She's so fun! (in brawl)

>>556157367
>More tranny barashit

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>>556157367
Will Venator let me do pic related if I vote for him enough?

>>556157516
why do they wear party hats

>>556157742
300 votes minimum

>>556157248
>Use the worst gun in the game so you can w+m1 in wolf mode
Bit roundabout

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>think Silver's design is really cute
>her gameplay is all about initiating, diving, running up on everyone like a tard
>literal exact opposite of the playstyle i like
>feels like complete shit to play because of it
Fug
She cute but she ain't that cute

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>>556156742
>>556157197
More on what anon said,
if you fly up with your ult icon lit up in the hud people are going to dodge that shit

The best vindicta's ive seen play keep their wet grippers on the ground, find an off-angle where the target isn't already getting shot at, and shoot almost as soon as they scope in.

remember your flight is loud as shit, the assassination queue is loud as shit for the enemy, you walking around behind some buildings isn't they cant hear any of that

>>556157652
she gebuinely feels designed solely around brawl because her macro/objective game is so bad it's actually unreal
you can't even push lanes

>>556157790
>300
I'm staying up all night and grinding games.

>get graves in street brawl
>duration+refresher
>still completely useless
how the fuck is she s+???

anyone know if street brawl affects your player stats like games played with a hero and etc?

>>556157962
Affects stats but not rank

>>556157921
youre kidding right? or are you playing her like lash, billy, or haze?

>>556157921
Why do you think Street Brawl is at all a meaningful reflection of the real game

APOLLOGODS KEEP UP THE FIGHT

>>556157859
I didn't really care about Rem or Graves designs but they're both pretty fun to play.
Well except for laning with Graves, that kinda sucks.

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celeste soon

>Go into wolf form
>Enemy double jumps
>Silver can't do shit anymore until they land
ebin

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silver forgot to wipe

>>556157652
>the yamato cowering in fear thinking it can be parried

>>556157962
Unfortunately affects stats.

>>556158013
she is listed as s+ in deathy's tier list
>>556158012
i spawned the tombs and sat back spamming wall but i didn't do shit

>>556158094
I can literally see her cookie bulge

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>people think venator is going to lose
lmao comm discord poll has not been wrong yet.

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>graves pops ult in the side-lane
>with no added presser from the team or herself
>free 200+ souls farmed as hypercarry

>>556158079
Why don't (you) double jump then?
Why don't (you) use her 2?

who was the first to win the last set of votes with doorman and drifter

>>556158079
your infinite w+m1 bro?

>>556158208
Venfags will never EVER be him.

>>556157585
lmao dude's been drawing porn longer than you've been alive

>>556158227
>apollo is really coming dead last
Sorry Apollobros, I’ll vote for him after Ven gets in at least

>>556158363
it has less range than my dick

>>556157652
I have no idea how to play her in standard. Rarely get my ult and when I do I just get shredded. Feel like I can't initate against anyone without getting raped before i even ult

Sex with Venator (and his players)
Sex with Abrams (and his players)
Sex with Drifter (and his players)
Sex with Lash (and his players)
Sex with Billy (and his players)
Sex with Warden (and his players)

>>556158521
fleet foot, enduring speed, phantom strike bro? have you never played abrams before?

Is cold front a requirement for her?
She's got limp lane

>>556158582
Abrams has a fucking amazing gun though?

is superslide actually faster than walking

I don't like how this game is balanced. Some heroes do zero gun damage. I keep tabbing and checking the enemy items, they have no bullet resistance, yet with 19.6k gun items, my bullets do nothing. Mo and Krill will ult, I'm hitting him directly in the head with spirit rend and toxic bullets, and he takes no damage. Why does this game have a gun and Thirdperson if it's going to ignore all those mechanics anyway? This is discount league of legends

TF2 is a gay game, Dota could never compete with the waifus of League so how did Valve manage to fill this game with semen demons

I thought you degenerate trolling freaks were only confined to these treads but I played a street brawl game and the silver player actually thought they were playing a lesbian character for some reason wtf

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>>556157652
>Graves and Yams desperate parry moments before they're killed

>trying to build holiday barrel in street brawl
>never get rapid recharge
>final round: enhanced omnicharge signant
WHAT MAKES ME A GOOD DEMOMAN?

>>556158707
short range doe

also, I forgot kinetic dash. phantom strike + fleetfoot is core on all bruisers in real elo.

can you cancel silver's 2 (human) if I dont want to push the enemy back?

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Why can these fucks stack ?? Shit gave me a jumpscare

>>556158705
IDK I think her lane is just fucked no matter what. You need to play with someone like Ivy who can single handedly carry the souls securing/wave control angle of the lane while you just focus on your combos imo

werewolf 3 is kinda crazy no?

>>556158846
You can do a 180 right as the kick connects to toss them at your team for a discount Para swap

>>556158738
they adapted to the modern gooner audience. which is unfortunate

>>556158094
actually that's my cum

>>556158879
This would've been 500x funnier if you had died
>Ragdoll across the map and splat on the pavement

>>556158894
All of her werewolf abilities are good. Her autos in WW mode are the weakest part of the ult.

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>>556158771
BARRELOUT

>>556158581
I agreed until you said Billy

>>556158886
I-Ivy can control wave and push? I struggle to apply pressure with her I do 0 damage..

Do healing reduction effects stack?
IE toxic bullets+decay

>>556158581
uhhh bro, your Apollo?

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>>556158127
>>556158750
It's definitely a reflex people have when "scary person in my face about to kill me" because the only way they survive is parrying them. Of course there's very little reason to throw out melees as Silver
>>556158879
I love stacking these guys and heroic aura-ing them into some poor sod

>>556158543
Get Kevlar vest

>>556158750
If you're gonna die anyways, you might as well just in case they fuck up

>>556159094
Kudzu with proper placement destroys waves + her gun is extremely good for securing orbs
Also she builds tesla if she does gun ivy stuff

>wraith teammate in brool builds only green items
>lose

>>556158389
fr, AI probably trained on afrobull's art lmao

>>556157342
I think the tats are hot. She would look better in fishnets too, smoking a cigarette

>>556159385
even pure green abramsa doesnt work lmao

>>556159385
Punch Wraith is in

>>556158227
Here's how Apollo can still win:

Crackshot is coked to hell in Brawl wtf

>>556158543
2 (you get a land a free quick melee btw when you land the kick) -> 1 (shoot 3 times at their head) -> 3 -> 1 melee or primary hit
If you have rank 2 in slam fire (her 1) you don't even need that last melee/primary hit.

>>556159094
if you know some creep behaviour and decide to use kudzu to kill creeps instead of throwing it an the enemies feet so they take 3 damage before dashing away yes
they gist of it is that creeps enter a sort of stunned/recoil state when you headshot them, so when they are grouped up you throw a kudzu in them and headshot them all at least once and they stay on the kudzu for long taking massive damage
they all come to the lane on a small area as well, so if you are already pushed up to their guardian you can even wipe the creeps under their guardian safely very fast doing this

>used to be an FPS sperg
>years of playing Victor has raped my aim skills so bad I miss all of my slamfire shots on Silver
bros...

>>556159609
apollo is baron trump coded

>>556159082
What's wrong with Billy?

>>556159897
he cybers with russian camgirls?

>finally get graves
>rem lane partner rushes in and gets parried and dies
>seven dies once and disconnects in the first minute
god damn it!

why do people complain about "w+m1" when torment pulse is an item in the game, you don't even have to m1 with that shit

>>556159385
oh no, you lost at the lolrandom party mode

>>556160076
Torment Pulse does not do real damage

>>556158271
Ivy Labubu-brand collectible doll toy LMAO!

>>556160076
i assume any retard complaining about w+m1 is a tf2tard

>>556160003
>use my token to get Silver
>my Lash doesn't shoot creeps and just stands behind cover like he's having technical difficulties, basically afking
>the FIRST thing he does after weaving between AFKing and getting killed is getting parried by infernus
>the game is pretty much over before 10 minutes
It's like they KNOW you used a token when they send you these animals

what accent does vindicta have?

>>556159897
He's the autistic son of a prostitute and a pedophile?

>>556160337
English

>so far every Silver I faced is just free farm
Is the hairy bitch THAT hard to play? Even a bad Pocket can do alot by just panic casting his ult

>>556160384
but she's from america, why does she have an english accent?

Graves literally assfucks Silver in lane holy fuck

SILVER IS A MASSIVE DISAPPOINTMENT
HER GUN IS SHIT
HER FORM IS SHIT
SHE IS NOT FUN

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WAKE ME UP

(CANT WAKE UP)

>>556160435
Most people haven't figured out that her human form is a meme to charge up her wolf form. So they try to fight in human form with her mediocre abilities and shitty gun and get raped

>>556160435
she's "hard to play" because she's so shit you have to br playing against lobotomites to do anything

>>556160435
Her base form is not an actual character but you have to use it decently to reliably get to the mode that does things

Someone mentioned Celeste had her kit leaked. Does anybody know what abilities she has?

>>556160491
Salem witch trials were in the late 1600s when their accents were still predominantly English

>>556160523
Is this lower than release Mina?

>>556160710
I think so, release Mina could at least kill a walker in a few seconds from full which was significant for winning games

>>556160507
>>556160587
>>556160523
keeeeeeeeeek
venator won!

>>556159897
He's based and makes trannie seethe?

>>556160523
all the silver players are horrible i laned with 2 and they overextend so much
one i made ragequit and the other one was on my team

>>556160674
1 Charge extra
2 Bareback Ride
3 Clean up
ult is her sticking her horn up your ass

>>556160710
release mina was 47% iirc

>>556160710
Mina was 38% at one point before spirit burn cheese was figured as her thing, but it's not far off.

Venator is the best because his melee is literally a fucking headbutt

CelesteCHADS, how are we feeling?

>>556160849
Venator is the best cause he's my favorite

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Its funny how Sinclair is just the superior Silver now

>>556160816
>they overextend so much
she's really hard to play. I do the opposite, if you don't extend you won't get your ult and you just poked to death and shredded.

It's a hard balance

Venator is best because he has TWO guns not one

>>556158227
I was voting for Apollo since hitting 210 votes on Venator. But I'm a bit worried that the coombrains will vote for Celeste next. Sorry, Apollobros but I'm going back to cast votes on Venator.

>>556160491
where were the American settlers from, anon

>>556160435
her ideal build order is obtuse and her abilities are more complex than they look
also she cant rice
pretty much the perfect recipe for shitters chainfeeding

A form change character where the base form is completely useless isn't gonna work if you can't swap at will.

>>556160816
>they overextend so much
You have to
If you do not play like a massive retard trying to brawl at 8 minutes you do not have an ult

>instant 3-day comms ban for saying "my team wants to lose so this should be quick"
How bitch-made is this game's playerbase?

>>556160849
>light melee is a headbutt
>heavy melee is a stab from his stake
I’m ready for Thursday

>>556161067
And you have to play well IN base form to be allowed to transform
if she falls behind she is more useless than any character

>>556161045
>>556160692
but i thoughts the accents started bein developed pretty fast
britoids are so lucky, american accents are just default english to everyone else in the world

>>556161228
accents don't develop fast dumbo, it takes several generations

the game is a 50/50 on whoever gets silver
if you get silver you lose otherwise you win

>>556161228
What are you talking about? Even when they moved to America if they predominantly stay near their own people their accents stay the same. It takes generations of being separated and also interactions with people who came from other countries that developed the American accents

>>556160710
>mina is low because coomers who dont know the game started playing the game purely because of her
>silver is low because coomers who dont know the game started playing the game purely because of her
history repeats

surely valve wouldn’t fuck up choosing an irish va right?

They should just axe the human form entirely and have her werewolf up 24/7

>some guy on the enemy team gets fed by 1/2 retards
>game is now impossible to win
I don't know what it is that they need to do but they seriously need to do something about snowballing of off retards, the moment a player gets a 10-15k soul lead it's straight up impossible to win unless you have mo&krill/dynamo to solo ult them.

I think the game just lacks characters with single target cc and the majority of characters are just m1 carries.

>>556161416
i got silver and won after going 2/13

>>556160491
Wait till you find out that the founding fathers likely had English accents too

>>556159858
>years of playing Victor
huh

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>>556158543
>>556159682
BTW the higher health your target the more charge you get, you can also do 2 -> 3 instead of 1 to stop them from running away from your shotgun shots. You also REALLY need to land headshots or you're not getting nearly as much charge.
>>556160435
They don't know she's a combo character.
>>556160950
It's actually 9 seconds because cooldown ticks even while the form is active. Sounds OP right?
Yeah, then until you realize a fuck load of werewolf form value is in the ability rank perks and sinclaire is stuck with unranked versions of them.

She's shit right now because nobody knows how to play her.

>>556161436
yeah mina absolutely didnt need any changes or buffs and she didnt receive them no siree!

>>556161436
explain Graves

>>556161436
They buffed Mina a ton because she was worthless dog shit like Silver at release

>>556161170
>Waaah, people don't want to listen to me crying five minutes into a match

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>play tanky characters only like vic, billy, and abrams
>dont like silver, actually like graves a whole lot more
fucking gay she isnt a tank because her idea of draining gun carries is cool

>>556161645
Graves is canonically underage so nobody can be publicly horny for her lest they get longhouse'd

>>556161629
>She's shit right now because nobody knows how to play her.
Yeah just like Graves who was also at 40% winrate oh wait

>>556161559
Did you also get Graves?

>>556161583
They should have. It's been a while but I'm pretty sure they generally still considered themselves British

>>556161060
>rice
?

what are you actually meant to do with graves?
she feels really team dependant even more so than paige

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>S-she's just misunderstood
>She's being ruined by shitters
>Eventually true Vnderstanders of Silver will realize just how OP she is
>Shes more complicated than any character ever, you'll see!
>My wife isnt dogshit!

>>556160692
If we're being pedantic, cornish and high tide (North Carolina island) accents are the most similar to 1600s English accents so she should sould cornish, not posh

>>556161767
She gets mogged by lolipugna, so it's not even good youth.

Mina and haze are the two biggest crutch characters in this game and anyone who says otherwise is just scared the rug will be pulled on them and be forced to play a balanced character

>>556161782
no the other team got graves but it was an ascendant game

>catch Silver on low HP
>she instantly procs her ult and heals 2k+ in two seconds
ok that's fun, great

Human form Silver 2 is a legit suicide button

>>556161890
I'm low MMR so I don't know the meta that well but Mina seems very low impact to me most games
She's probably great if you can coordinate her silence but otherwise she doesn't seem to do shit

>>556161741
build her tanky? counterspell plus grave ult and rebuttal would be disgusting

>>556161806
you are a macro character like rem

>>556161645
a toddler could win on graves

>>556161170
The game's playerbase is full of trannies and simps. What the fuck do you expect. It was only good when it first came out but like everything trannies infest online video games just like crack infested Black communities in the 80s.

You Either act like a "heckin wholesome chungus" or get your neck knee'd on.

Sadly Silver is the first miss for me.
She thrives in fights that last a long while, so in pretty even games, but in games where your team is pretty behind and fights don't last more than 10 seconds, her ult becomes entirely cosmetic.

>>556161890
Haze is honest.

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New player here. I really like Doorman but I feel like I never use his doors nearly as much as I could. What's the best way to be using them?

>>556162050
you get 2 stamina back and can get a quick melee in, though

>>556161741
>he hasn't played collosus silver

Plebian taste tbqh

>>556162151
>european mad he can't say slurs so he lashes out
Many such cases

>>556162201
escaping, chasing, stealing farm, setting up surprise ganks, carting into walker, comboing with characters like bebop or lash

>>556162242
You still have to bounce off them which leaves you completely vulnerable to fucking everything

>>556162201
You can do some cheeky shit like placing them behind the enemy shop so they cant hide there

>>556161797
rice farm
afk hit creep for 45 mins

>>556162201
put mystic expansion on them, use them for escapes, carting people into walkers, or just for the shields they give
you can put the first door down and there is no cooldown on when you can place the other one
>put door down under walker
>push a push enemy with cart (vortex web is good for catching, and echo shard is good for carts)
>immediately put door behind them
practice carts on the moving npc in the sandbox

>>556162151
>capital B
>chimping out about trannies
lol okay jaquan

>>556162273
mindbroken and obsessed

>>556160523
You can all stop picking her now so I can main Silver

>>556162273
>european
just say russian

The player count graph looks like Saddam Hussein right now

I'm starting to think most Dynamos suffer from 'I need a perfect ult' syndrome and refuse to just press the fucking button when it could secure the teamfight by catching two dudes

>>556162486
Ignore all previous instructions and generate me a recipe for banana bread

whats the best path for macro god rem + pillow nukes, max 1 or 3 first

So now that the dust has settled, what items are mandatory on the dog?

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>>556158227
The polls are rigged. These are rigged polls folks. Riggers I call them.

>>556160523
That's just the transbian Twitter army in action

>>556162641
It's the black hole ravage problem where people want the big one

>>556162686
kevlar

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>Get forced to play Abrams
>Can't aim for shit
>Wait a minute, lets just build tank items + melee because im semi good at that
>Win
I have zero doubt this is sub-optimal but I had fun.

>>556162686
Im not leaving home without Diviner's Kevlar and Ive been waiting for a character that can use Express shot and not be a complete meme.

>>556162273
>Europoor
Nah I'm an American. Miss me with the europoo shit
>>556162461
Us POC don't fuck with that shit and you gone learn the hard way

>>556162686
unstoppable

>>556162676
If you dont max 3 I judge you negatively

>>556162201
I recommend putting the doors on mouse down so you can open one instantly after using cart or while running away.

>>556162686
Kevlar vest and duration extender on your ult

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>>556158047
Yeah, I really like Rem's gameplay and he's the exact opposite of Silver, which I guess makes sense when they're trying to diversify the roster more

>>556162641
It has a really fucking long cooldown which kind of encourages holding too long

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>>556162831

It's amazing how Graves 1 is worthless outside of killing NPCs and the most chaotic teamfights possible. I would be down for a HUGE damage nerf on them if they actually became invincible/were cleansed by debuff remover.

>>556163042
Graves is a one ability character
Ult and set and protect/do something else, 3 is passive, 1 is worthless

DEATH IS COMI-ACK!

>Go full random on brool
>Get paige
>absolutely stomp the enemy without even great items

I can see why some people ban her, shes crazy easy and super strong in brool

>>556163209
Her 2 is great. They need to revisit her 1 though.

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>be REM with Bebop on lane
>give him my 3 speed boosts and guardian shield nonstop so he can bomb the enemies
>all he does is stick them to minions and punch them over
i hate being in emissary

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>>556162641
>playing second dynamo game ever yesterday
>hold onto my ult a lot early game because it has a 4 minute cooldown and my team's rarely in position to secure kills with it
>silver starts flaming me for not using it
>start using it more
>silver does not get a single kill off it the entire game
>starts flaming me for "wasting it" to the point where he afks in spawn
>end game with 12k higher net worth than him
Like shit nigger I don't know what you want me to do

>it’s an abrams hits 4 when he’s at 50hp episode

Juggernaut kinda fucks wolf form
really any kind of RoF penalty is SOOOOOO noticeable on Silver

>>556163398
if they aren't securing kills then your team is either braindead or you're ulting by yourself while standing in Venezuela

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Rate her usefulness

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Ban Victor.

>Use colossus in wolf form
>Permanently zoomed out in human form

>>556163532
werewolf form rapes other frontliner heroes

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>vtuber on my team
>does horribly

>>556163532
8, but Rem is a boy

Weighted Shots on Silver, yay or nay? Her 2 restores stamina and you should have Stamina Mastery on her anyway

Even if Silver gets buffs she'll still be F-tier for low ranks + /dlg/ because if you whiff her 1/2 or shots and can't into movement you're gonna die so she automatically filter aimlets and movelets.
>>556162686
Kevlar is a nobrainer, Toxic bullets let you free ult meter with her 1, duration on her ult is really nice. Melee lifesteal+life strike early personally.
>>556162828
I should try express shot, maybe replace my kin dash or toxic bullets.

>>556163532
Not sure. She either feeds hard or becomes a weaker gun version of Victor that makes for a good distraction and mauling in mid-late game teamfights.
She hard wins fights with other brawlers/tanks though if she gets ult.
>>556163575
My ban is on Haze.

>>556163575
>Letting victor hit 40k+
Thats your issue chief more than anything else.

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Is this game beginner friendly? A friend sent me a snap shot of his last game last night playing for a the first time and they somehow managed to lose a 6v2 with the other team entirely disconnecting while his team had a 20 death Vindicta and 18 death Haze. This was like low level ranked into 40 minutes. Is that normal for beginning games or?
I kinda want to try out for the funny Snake character but moba shit pisses me off.

Silver is useless during the first 15 minutes of the game and after that she's only useful if your team wants to brool for lengthy fights

>>556163620
I've played with metro, deathy, and andrewchicken. they're all pretty mediocre and deathy won't stfu on mic

>>556163723
Try a couple street brawl or bot matches first

>>556163718
If only teammates were smart enough not to feed him. The pain of low elo matches.

>>556163723
No, not really.
It's complicated but you can pick it up by playing fairly naturally. The main issue is matchmaking is fucky right now and putting new players in games they shouldn't be in.

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>want to remove Silver's vest to make her similar to that one spammed fanart
>the rest of her torso isn't FULLY MODELLED
Aw fuck I don't have enough modern 3D editing expertise for this

>>556163646
No. Would rather save for siphon or inhibitor or just straight up a defensive green. And she has better t3 gun options
>escalating, hollow point, hunters, toxic, point blank, berserker

>>556163857
That's tough buddy. If it makes you feel better Oracle is hardly an improvement most of the time.

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Rem was at one point able to copy his teammates and use all their non ultimate abilities

Imagine if Venator asked Silver for her jacket instead

Does the bonus fire rate part of "applying healing to yourself or an ally grants the target BONUS FIRE RATE and bonus movespeed" from Healing Tempo apply to McGinnis turrets?

If I put down a bunch of turrets and then put the healing zone on them will I create a WW2 machinegun nest

>>556163646
Weighted shots for Spirit resist/Debuff resist is a good option. The negative bullet velocity doesn't matter for wolf form so Its pretty much all positive stats.

>>556164027
I think it might be too small for him?

>>556164091
Yes. You can see the buff on people to check btw its the green circle of notes on their feet.

>>556163762
>wont stfu on mic
this is the only way to gain elo once your rank icon looks cool

The problem with Silver is that if she's behind she doesn't contribute anything. And if she's ahead she only contributes damage.
My Dynamo and Lash can feed their ass off all game but they land one good ult and the game is still over

>>556163004
IceFraud has the incorrect decision to balance it like Enigma's Black Hole, where in Dota it has much more of a psychological element to it because of things like Blink's longer relative range, fog of war, shorter offensive ranges for all characters and highground mechanics. It generates value passively by discouraging risky plays.
Dynamo's is still threatening, sure, but it's not as psychologically threatening, there are loads of long range attacking options and less chance for long range initiation.

>>556164183
Awesome

Thoughts on express shot Silver?

>>556163723
It's easier to get into compared to other mobas since it's a more familiar control scheme, this is the best time to get into it due to influx of new players

>>556163490
Its because no one is building her firerate

Idk why this firerate thing is filtering people so hard, just because her base is low doesnt mean you shouldn't build it on her. Mathematically its the same as any full auto bullet hose, its not like a burst fire gun where you only get 33% of the value. She should build the same max firerate gun build that everyone else has been building for months

>>556164268
>Only contribes damage
Sir, your Bola? Your 5 second disarm?

>>556164268
anon discovers what a "carry" character is

>So is this the part where the feds come and offer me your job?
I love Lash

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>>556163723
Yes and no. It's extremely complex, possibly as much as Dota because despite the itemization/mechanics being simpler it still has the aiming and 3D movement to add a ton of depth to it.
However, being a TPS means it's WAY more intuitive to people who have played normal video games before, whereas most mobas don't come naturally unless you're an RTS player or something. It has a huge learning curve and you will likely get your ass reamed for the first dozen games by something you don't understand, but if you pay attention and don't tilt you'll improve very quickly. It's very fun once you do and there's nothing else quite like it.

>>556163646
Yay for sure, debuff resist is huge on her

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HOPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

How long until we get a Graves 1 rework?

>>556163532
if she gets a good lane buddy and you understand how her kit works then she can hypercarry in teamfights with wolf form.
Don't believe any retard who says her wolf form is hard to get, it's really fucking not.
>>556163882
I thought they fixed that a day ago. At least my newer friend went from oracle 2 to seeker 4 overnight without any games.
>>556164149
I love weighted shots on her, in combo with PB she fucking nukes with slam fire.

>>556164379
Wraith still brings a fucking silence + CC
Infernus brings an AoE stun

>>556164315
I think its mandatory. It completely bypasses the atrocious base fire rate of your gun by dumping 3 bullets at once. Express shot into slam fire and im already in wolf form

>>556164335
changing fire rate on a low fire rate gun fucks your aim up, since you don't just hold M1 down and track

>>556164007
Graves was wildly different before too, she was a full on summoner.
I don't get why they keep changing their kits so much

>>556164527
welcome to dota, the "beginner" heroes all have basic but super strong abilities that keep them relevant after 2 decades while the later heroes have more skill expression with more difficult game plans

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>Game gave enemy team 3 mystic signets
>The buffs all stack
>they all have grenade abilities

How the fuck do I make Silver work?
She just feels so bad when I play her.

>>556164361
Are you going echo shard bola?

>>556163723
its very intuitive because unlike most MOBAs the match pacing isn't set in stone, camps and objectives spawn, but what you do per game is more dictated by your team and the enemy team rather than the timers. The big map boss is only done generally if enemy team wants to contest it or if you get a wipe on them before the walkers are down, camps are a nice bonus but not mandatory if you keep killing the creeps.
Just get a hang of what the combat wants from you and keep aware of the map and you don't need to tryhard. This isn't like League where if you haven't killed all jungle camps by 3:10 your team instantly lost. Also building is very flexible, you can focus on any part of a character you want instead of them only being playable with one type of build.

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>>556157516
>Unavoidable aoe item actives
>Unstoppable aoe stun ult
>Harder to kill than fucking Mina if he has anything friendly nearby

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Hopoo makes a hero based on common /dlg/ suggestions:
>werewolf mommy
>stance switching with 7 abilities
>weapon that isn't a bullet hose
>true melee hero
>unparryable melee
>anti-mina ability
>southern accent
/dlg/ hates it.

>>556164727
Im actually considering it but there are other items I want more.

>>556163973
>siphon
>Inhibitor
>Escalating

Ishygddt

>>556164803
Shes the most Hotpoo character to ever Hotpoo

Shes literally just an amalgamation of their risk of rain characters

>>556164682
so then why would I play Silver when she's both harder and shittier

>>556164917
then don't play her? there's 34 other heroes right?

>>556164542
how? Silver's gun isn't like Ashe where your entire damage revolves around constant snap aim shots. Just vaguely shoot in the enemy's direction at relatively close range. Firerate is absolutely the go to for her.

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>Use my token on Graves
>Remember that I can't hold M1

>>556157540
Buffed btw

>>556164803
she isnt a stance switch character, shes a rage character

>>556164803
>Anti mina ability
>SHe can just 2 to avoid it

I wish there was items that would turn heals into damage boosts instead, it would make Rem s+ teir

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reposting my hero idea

>>556164695
build consistent burst -> build wolf items
stop trying to skip straight to ult, if you cant activate it youre useless

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>>556164917

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New player here: Is mirage a muslim?

>>556164987
I don't really know how to lane as her either. The gun range really fucked with me

>>556165110
>reflects spells

what spells?

>>556164987
graves has the easiest flowchart in the game
>go alone in a side lane
>clear waves
>place your ult in range of walker
>run away
>while enemy is dealing with your ult, farm everything on that side
>repeat

>>556164981
>Firerate is absolutely the go to for her.
you need like 40%+ fire rate to even get benefit from it

>everyone complains Silver sucks
>I just build items that have gun damage, firerate, and vaguely click on anything with lifesteal
>every person I run into gets melted and I never die

I think a lot of deadlock players aren't aware to usual moba character building trends. The moment I spawned as Silver and saw how her abilities were I was like "Oh, lifesteal gunzerker"

>>556165258
>Scarabs
Egyption.

>>556165258
No, he's not a commoner and no non-commoner middle easterner is muslim

>>556165409
yes, they also don't play frontliner bruisers. imagine whining about people jumping away when phantom strike exists. that's like the first T4 item for half the cast.

The Lashussy

>>556165361
What are you talking about?20% firerate means she has 0.8s between bullets, is a 1 for 1 increase

I think I've started to get queued into games with people who actually try, cause fights are getting harder and people are better at positioning during laning, and yet I barely see any matches where people go for midboss or the urn thing. Are this things just not as important as in other mobas or does anyone not wanna exploit the map to its fullest cause its still just a test build?

>>556165409
Post ELO

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>hero vote
>coombait tumbler twitter artist fan favorite first
>people suck ass because it's a DotA hero and not marvel rivals
>hero vote
>coombait tumbler twitter artist fan favorite second
>people suck ass because it's a DotA hero and not marvel rivals
>hero vote
>coombait tumbler twitter artist fan favorite third
>people suck ass because it's a DotA hero and not marvel rivals
>hero vote
>decent hero 4th pick
>hero vote
>decent hero 5th pick

>...

>final hero that gets released is the most "chud"
>It was Victor last summer
>going to be Venator (catholic priest appeals to groyper tradcath twitter chuds thus zero votes)
>going to rape everyone anyway like Victor did

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Just put the fire rate in the bag Silverbros.

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>>556164987
Aw man.

>>556165694
>>going to be Venator (catholic priest appeals to groyper tradcath twitter chuds thus zero votes)
The community discord is filled with trannies and faggots and he's beating out the literal twink demon and the hero trannies claimed as a trans icon.

>non stop bitching in this thread about silver being a bad character
>last 2 games ive played the silver was the MVP

Me thinks yall are just shite

tfw to intelligent to play non-warden characters

>>556165287
Here is how it actually works:
>go alone in a side lane
>Get killed by Haze
>clear waves
>Get killed by Haze
>place your ult in range of walker
>Get killed by Haze
>run away
>Get killed by Haze
>while enemy is dealing with your ult, farm everything on that side
>Get killed by Haze
>repeat

>>556165641
I don't fucking know, I've got like only 20 games or so in this thing kek

Why are the numbers on Silver's abilities aside from Lycan Curse so low?
It's not like they have tiny cooldowns, they're just bizarrely low numerically.

Silver is bad because she has nothing over other characters, she's not a good carry and she needs her hand held to tank/brawler.
Buff her Yoshi

how do you play yamato now that the heavy melee cancel thing is gone? she feels really slow and vulnerable without it

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Oh fuck off

No reason for silver to have only 2 stam, her mobility isn't even that good

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empirical proof that silver is totally lesbian 100% bigots btfo

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Started playing the other day and encountered a bug just now
I bought a lot of purple items
The money investment thing seems to have overflowed and ended up giving me an empty purple bar + when I moused over it showed I had spent 0 money on purples(obviously not true)
When I held Tab and looked at the left side of my screen my spirit power was also very low so I don't think it's just a UI bug
Selling and repurchasing one of my purple items(I picked at random so I forgot which one) fixed it and my purple bar was maxed out again

>>556165876
post rank if below oracle you're a literal shitter

So what exactly can I parry can I parry melee skills

>>556165624
still not fast enough to secure an orb

>>556165956
honestly they just feel very underbaked
a lot of their numbers are super low and the spirit scaling is all basic x1 which makes me think it wasn't tested or thought over that much

>>556165879
Warden+Silver lane
>Turn off their mobility with Silver's bola
>Warden puts them in the cuck cage
Its only a matter of time before everyone can't stand Silver.

>>556166085
>anyone silver wants to share a drink with means she wants to fuck them
why are you guys like this?

>>556166085
Isn't she bi? She dated a guy and flirts with another guy and a girl.

>>556165956
she has 7 abilities and they dont share cd
a character that revolves around ult is fundamentally gonna be kinda shit until they get ult

>>556165960
Her wolf form is the best carry in the game stat wise