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Pubescent Edition
>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/
>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/
>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/
>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.
>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.
Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gN JQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/
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>dying later in the round incurs a way harsher penalty than earlier
who designed this absolutely retarded fucking idea?
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Post Celeste
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I'm really trying to like Silver but she just feels ass to play in her base form. She's horrid in lane and her gun is probably the worst feeling gun in the entire game, even Lash's gun is decent compared to this.
In Late game once you manage to get into wolf form she feels better but eh, still doesn't feel great
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how the FUCK am i meant to see anything
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hope we get a Primal Beast style hero eventually,
just the most degenerate "fuck you" monster that barely even speaks and just shits up everything for everyonebring back Wrecker
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okay but everything else aside imagine her beckoning you over with a motion of her fingers and then spreading her legs and pointing down and letting you shove you tongue as deep as it can go into her pussy?
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https://youtu.be/2B5NkVqfIVo?si=BCXUCkFZFKhMNHrC
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>>556205025
it's meant to make sure the game fucking ends
you're a lot more powerful in later rounds which means dying carries a heavier penalty, your reward for managing to kill someone is that they won't be back for a while so you can end things sooner, it's not rocket science
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He is extremely underrated and can nuke people entirely by himself, has an extra dash via the Tornado, and has a get out of jail free card with his ult. A lot of people build gun because his abilities don't really do damage, but they don't realize that building spirit on Mirage also simultaneously builds his gun as well.
That being said his 1 is worthless, it's an extremely minor DOT even in the laning phase and gives almost nothing to him even if he hits four different enemy heroes
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Ive yet to encounter a single threatening Silver player
I'm sure the super duper high skill one in a trillion player that rapes everyone with her is just around the corner
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I buy Enduring Speed and Stamina Mastery on every hero.
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>>556205061
>not a gigantic futa horsecock
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>calico
>mina
>yamato
>vindicta
>silver
any recommendations for which 3 I should learn/main? I've played a few matches with all of them and like them all a lot, both character-wise and gameplay-wise
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>play Jacket
>dog on enemy lane
>get killed off every time by them off-screen
>feed them quality dog treats
I've spent the majority of the game spectating
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when they edit in her ear and tail they need to edit out the cutter self-harm scars
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>>mina
>>yamato
>>vindicta
this 3
vindicta is really good right now after the change to her ult, yama is getting a remodel and probably some new abilities too, mina is annoying and also the main of some dev plus the pseudo mascot of the game so a lot of faggots keep defending her dogshit kit, point is that she won't see any significant nerfs soon
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Crazy idea. What should Celeste's "darker" side be? Something that gives her some depth
I think making her a self harmer would be very interesting
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>>556201280
despite the animal head, i feel like there'd be better candidates than billy. he'd make for a good side character with a level or two, but someone else would have to be the MC, most likely
>>556202026
fuck i forgot how good decade dance was
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>>556206378
oh shut the fuck up
overtime mechanics eventually force the game to end one way or another, if one person dies it snowballs into a loss for your side and the way towers work in this game you have to be actively defending them because they do jackshit for actually being threatening
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>moba player has only played mobas
>moba player immediately attacks his favorite boogeymen when his favorite genera is criticized
>moba player hasn't thought critically about how competitive games are designed for even a moment
If I had a nickel for every time I saw this I could buy Gabe's yacht
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>>556206527
Seven has some lines that detail that he holds a grudge against Kelvin, and a literal fag over at the Deadlock wiki took that to mean that Seven is Kelvin's jilted lover.
If you go to Kelvin's page, though, it says that Seven is Kelvin's old friend "Ettrick", who vanished somehow. Fags take this to mean that they're gay, because they're fags.
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https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=patron_male_ally_un icorn_start_03.mp3
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=patron_male_ally_un icorn_start_04.mp3
>dark secret about her
>not magic related, something intrinsic to her identity that people cannot accept
>"you by her side" hidden king voiceline, so clearly not the patron himself
is it lesbianism cause vyper's bisexual and no one cares
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>>556205284
that shes impossible to gank because sleep dagger and a liability to even try because her ult is a fucking nightmare
atleast other carries you can shut down, even if you need to buy an anti escape tool to do it
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>hear sleep dagger in lane
>hear punch sound
is there anything more infuriating?
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>>556205401
>She finally gets into wolf form after struggling with her useless human form
>Click my 15 second CD Disarming Hex that can hit her from the moon
THANK YOU!!!
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Drifter if he was cool
https://youtu.be/wIuQfm1Y9rE?si=z6CyHervT2NRMdC6
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>the round needs to end chud... because it just had to okay?!??!
yeah I'm sure all the super fun late game powers you get are definitely things people want to lose in 2-3 minutes, your preferred design incentivizes nothing except super safe play which is boring
once again you're retarded, if death had a fixed timer it would be more than fine
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It is 'They're cute' https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=familiar_use_power3 _03.mp3
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>>556206420
>you don't play heroes because you like those characters. I understand this is how it works in literally every other game, but not in dota.
Works fine on my machine. I believe you're just having one of those, uh... what are they called? Oh yeah. Skill issues.
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>team randomly all decide to dive dynamo with his ult up on the final round of brool
How the fuck are people this stupid
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>Laning against Haze/Seven duo
>Seven would stun you
>They both coordinated their heavy punches
>Cry over the mic for my lane partner to help me
>They don't even try to parry instead just shoot
>Haze hits with me a dagger right after and they both go for their heavy
>This happened the whole lane
They only targeted me because they knew my lane partner didn't know what the fuck parrying was.
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>"Oh yeah, this item exists."
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all these matches I have the most souls, most kills, and most damage on my team
FUCK this game man
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is deadlock a yuri game?
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>>556208648
>not a single argument left
Yep, I win yet again.
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Maybe its because I just rewatched this, but this is all I see when I look at Graves.
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You know it
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>>556208950
Deadlock is a hmofa game
Ivy, Vyper, and now Silver
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Could you elbaorate on your take then?
Mobas are built on your characters becoming strong the longer the game plats, the stronger a character is, the longer is the penalty for sucking dick. I literally cannot understand the problem, unless you are comparing to games where balance of the game as a whole is static, where it makes no sense, but even then, Payload mode maps which hero shooters are kind of built around, are literally specifically designed to make the game easier for attackers at the start, and defenders at the end.
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わたしに敵対する者は誰であれ死ぬ。
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The point is >>556209082
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>told why death timers are long in the game mode
that is explicitly for deathball fights and ending quickly because towers explode in two seconds
>speeding your ass back to lane would just drag it out longer for "comeback potential" because you can't handle your fuckups or straight-up item RNG actually costing you a game
>"UHM ARGUMENTS?? WHERE ARGUMENTS??"
literally zero point to a fixed death timer beyond making you feel better but keep being obtuse I guess
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>lil nigga still seething
kek
>literally zero point to a fixed death timer beyond making you feel better but keep being obtuse I guess
if there was "zero point" to a fixed death timer you wouldn't be arguing against it
you make no sense whatsoever, it's obvious the long death timer does in fact swing the game in a direction where you cannot do anything long enough for the enemy to gain the advantage in a huge way, just because the round took longer
it becomes a game of rock paper scissors of who got enough procs to go off amongst the turtling, making the mode even more of a meme than it usually is
you're dumb, and so are the devs who did this
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Yes. Anthropomorphic rock.
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nope there is no point to it because it'd only serve to make the gamemode meant for speed worse to play, if you die you die and can get fucked, you're treating it too seriously for a mode where you literally will just get screwed over by team comp from round 1 or randomized items in-between, there is exactly zero reason to change shit for 'competitive balance' because it is, as you yourself said, a meme mode and not the actual game
keep being retarded about it and coping I guess
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Why is it that every other thread some sperg comes in and has a meltdown about how dota and deadlock work?
Are we being raided?
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You can literally say pedophile. No wonder zoomers can't read a basic sentence and understand it.
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they're failing to recognize that this is a MOBA first and foremost and the extra mechanics don't change it having a bunch of MOBA elements so they treat it like a hero shooter and get pissed it's not catering to them
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Having a game with a miniscule TTK combined with an hour long respawn just isn't compelling design. You can come up with a million justifications for it, it doesn't make being forced to sit on your hands and watch the game spiral for a minute because you had the audacity to make one mistake fun or interesting.
And all this is assuming that you're actually much harder to kill in the late game than you are early. Personally, I think that's bullshit. If anything, it's way easier to die late game because everyone's fuck you combo is online and people are playing way more aggressively.
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Top row is correct and that's all I care about
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They aren't in the states, hero shooter on the other hand are, deadlock is part hero shooter thus hero shooter fans want to play, especially after the massive flop that was highguard, a lot of people started talking about deadlock after that
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Once I fix her depression she will trim it into a cutesy pawprint.
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Every rage post is just someone being filtered anon.
4chan is an extremely casual website now. The majority of the website are either gacha fags or people who watch ecelebs and only play the games their heckin' epic streamer plays, only to then drop it after a few days.
They see a big streamer playing it, download it, go into a match, get facefucked, then scream and cry and call it shit to everyone and say they're uninstalling. It makes them feel like it wasn't their fault but the game's.
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>dota 2
>sleep themed character is a nightmare demon that preys on people's deepest fears
>deadlock
>sleep themed character is a lil sleepy chibi trans icon
yikes
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>she will trim it into a cutesy pawprint.
WHAT THE FUCK
NOOOOO
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>>556210676
Ivy of all people would probably let it grow, if it can
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the 1st character you described is Doorman, knobhead
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I've been reflecting. I think lifestrike might not be the play for Silver.
It's not like it gives you a lot of melee damage and rarely the issue you'll have in wolf mode is a lack of sustain
However, getting an early t3 on Silver that doesn't help her gun really makes it hard to actually proc your ult.
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I still don't understand what they were thinking with Silver. She's fun to play but she just sucks at everything. You use up all your abilities and deal damage comparable to Rem pillow. Finally, you turn into a wolf and stand in a stun for its entire duration. God, I wish people would focus Victor as much as everyone focuses Silver. And it still feels like most items just don't synergize well with her. Maybe a couple of melee items are fine, but most of them feel a little disappointing.
Still, I feel better than Graves trannies because an underpowered fun character is better than OP braindead trash. Expecting even more Graves nerfs in the future.
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Paradox has Schrodinger's Pubes, they don't exist until you're directly observing them
Vindicta is a ghost from colonial times, she is absolutely rocking bush
Holliday is a cowgirl, I don't think she gives enough of a shit to shave
Wraith would trim
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You think a Marvel Rivals or Overwatch player are going to care about the moba aspect of the game? No they will just see le epic quirky characters with guns and abilities and play the game like they play a regular hero shooter
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they made it so she's a drunken fist alcoholic that can't aim for shit in normal form but starts raping as a wolf
her whole kit is cucked because of her ult's non-existent cooldown and fucking sinclair can rape the whole map with it as soon as he hits 3.6k
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This 5 second voice line has more soul than the entirety of Deadlock's voice lines
https://youtu.be/meH9uKpQfzM?si=ijR9AQtXlHE0uPU7
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Lifestrike is good for sustain and she really needs green items
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I don't think her wolf form is that great. At least in comparison with other ultimates. Like, yeah, you can fuck everyone up in tight spaces, but other characters can do that without even using 4, and it's easy to run away from her or just counter her.
My point is that she is not that strong, quite difficult to execute to 100% and very easy to counter
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imagine if graves tombstone was as good as undying tombstone the level of seethe that would occur, mind you, you can use undying tombstone at lvl 1
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How much of a biter is she?
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Making a shortranged character like Silver in a game as CC heavy as this is just a joke. Not to imply she's bad, but holy fuck does it feel like it's impossible to do anything in werewolf form most of the time.
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oh i just had a great idea
Silver's 2 should make her unstoppable during it's cast (which only lasts like 1.5 seconds) so it can be used to cross over stop traps or timed perfectly to evade stuns.
It's skillful and niche
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I played LoL back in the day, and even then it was a "pretty'er dota" Lol has never been a good game, and never WILL be a good game, the only thing it has over dota/deadlock is the fact you can give up like a bitch
And to this day I think "AoS maps" where a better name then assfaggots.
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Alright now tell us your great idea.
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That one really long drawn out death voice line was soul but then they removed it.
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bots, no updates, and a shitton of ugly comsetics?
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the owl hunts the little gay bird. it must do it to feed the tribe.
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>rem drops
>new age furries seeing underage on e621 for the first time and freaking out
Literally seeing this in real time. Wait until they see that the top post of all time on the website is a 2 minute rape scene.
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This is EXACTLY what I thought of first and foremost
I INSTANTLY envisioned her perfectly bare pale innie pussy under that skirt, maybe a tiny silver string of pussy juice sticking to her inner thigh from the outline of her hairless featureless moon white slit
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>>556205029
I really wanted a king kong type giant gorilla hero since it would fit the 30s theme. Problem is, how big can you actually make a hero in this game and hoe would you balence one thats actually significantly bigger than anyone else?
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people always say this but there are easy fix around the map geometry issue, most of them just needing some animation overhauls, or hell really just let the fuckers not get indoors, it's not like they're opposed to the idea as seen by whatever the fuck the tunnels are.
the real problem is that it's way too much work for valve. i mean let's be real they can't even be bothered to try and add a melee hero and you want them to do this shit?
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>adding a melee focused kit that doesn't suck is easier to do than map geometry adjustments
ah, yes, the taste of bait
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Holliday is not a real hero period. I actually looked at her for the first time yesterday, what the fuck were they thinking? THIS is real hero labs shit. Her aesthetic and look is terrible too. Fucking Woody "THERE'S A SNAKE IN MY BOOT" looking ass with her nonsensical kit. A fucking bounce pad? Is she not a real sheriff but like a circus sheriff? A clown dressed as a sheriff?
A fucking explosive barrel?
Are cowboys known for exploding barrels they carry around and toss?
She's a fucking rodeo clown not a sheriff.
Why the fuck does she have a Gangplank barrel?
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Yeah I expect them to be literally useless later but seeing someone rapidly spin trying to shoot them is really funny
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>vindicta is drifter without the isolation restriction now
I hate this bitch so much
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am i the only one who enjoys silver as is and doesn't feel like she needs any changes/nerfs/buffs
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It'll be very cute.
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7 or 8 out of 10 bite scale.
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>Deadlock is the future! Look at all these amazing and new interesting kits we have! All this innovation, this movement, the possibilities!!
>I-I-I-I-iss that.... a FREAKING MELEE ONLY KIT??? AIEEEEEE ICEFROGSAMA SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
remember when we could have something like techies shadowdropped out of nowhere back in the dota 2 days
that was a good time
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But why over something like Weighted Rounds or Point Blank?
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Mina
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a melee hero has never been done
>abrams
that's just a bruiser, a melee hero has never been done
>calico
a true melee hero has never been done
>billy
a TRUE melee hero has never been done
>silver
a TRUE MELEE hero has never been done
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>Weighted Rounds
same damage increase as hollow but negative stam recovery on a hero that really needs her stamina, also doesn't shred like h. point
>Point Blank
people do build that on her but also apparently it's bugged in her ult form and doesn't work, they might've patched it
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>>556215683
Retards on reddit and twitter don't actually play this game, they just ship the characters and hope valve makes their delusions canon.
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>JuicyMangoCubes
I've 100% seen this name posted on 4chan at least twice. Usually as bait of some kind.
I'm convinced now this is a troll account or one anon follows this person and reposts their shit as bait
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Silver beating Celeste and Venator means there are more hmofa chads in Deadlock than Christian cucks and trannies
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>>556215959
Cons never used to be like this.
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Silver was my #1 and Venator was my #2.
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Bros dont say street brawl doesnt help you
Im finally comfortable in lane because sliding, positioning, and map traversal feels second nature now
So I can actually think about macro shit and creeps more
Brawl also gave me some good habits of always killing creeps whenever possible to push a lane out, getting medic heals, and knowing when you can easily kill a tower/walker
Also Ive become way more into buying actives because brawl keeps throwing that shit at you
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>>556216148
>Silver beating Celeste and Venator means there are more hmofa chads in Deadlock than Christian cucks and trannies
And that's a good thing!
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>>556216325
There were always horny bastards at cons but back then people cared more for the hobby so it wasn't a major thing. That was until the normalfags invaded. Now a con is basically a meet&fuck especially if you're a guy in shape when every other dude is skinnyfat/overweight.
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>Now a con is basically a meet&fuck especially if you're a guy in shape when every other dude is skinnyfat/overweight.
Which is precisely why you have no excuse not getting laid at a con when 90% of the dudes there stink of BO
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It's like fucking impossible to carry retards in this game like you can in Dota.
Like I actually can't believe the total lack of game sense everybody has. Pushing into their base when they have the rejuv, just off doing god knows what when team fights are happening, nobody defending the base, nobody taking obvious fights.
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this is a hmofm general thoughbeit
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>load into 4v4
>2 rounds won
>push walker
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>four half hp morons ignore a fresh wave of creeps near their walker and rush our tower
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>people ITT and in some games say Lightning Scroll does absolutely nothing on Silver
>test it
>everything in her ult mode, even her m1, stuns
Why did you guys lie? Is this a good idea?
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>Get Deadlock invite from my gf
>Check launch page
>3 of my friends have it
>None of them offered an invite
>I talk to all of them regularly
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>playing seven
>enemy team must have had the bad touch by a seven prior because they spend the entire game 4-5 man hunting mee
>no matter which lane I rotate to or what jungle camp or sinner I try to get they all immediately show up
>realize after the 3rd time they do this that they're gonna keep doing it
>build green and intentionally rotate away from where my team is pushing
>my team capitalizes and we win by minute 32
I went 3/7/17, and am still the reason my team won because these dumbfucks spent so long fighting me that they threw the game.
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I just want to get to an ELO where people at least have some form of MOBA experience and can use it. It's unreal how nobody knows how the fuck to play around the map in Seeker/Alchemist and treat it like a hero shooter.
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Dont worry Silversisters, very soon we will discover the secret sauce that makes Silver not a total piece of useless dogshit
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You can't. It's over.
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Why exactly is she bad and what does she need to be good?
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>Why is she bad
Shes useless in her human form and any form of snare, slow, or stun will shut down her ult easily
hell even just being faster than her works, and god help you if you're up against lash or mina
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>My team won 4 out of 5 games tonight.
>I underperformed in every single area (except assists one time), even compared to most of the worst performing enemies.
I'm honestly just not improving in this game. I've played twenty hours and all I've learned is what the terminology is.
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This new coin system is honestly garbage. It basically means you are playing the new hero once every 10 games (5 hours of play if you're lucky). Then you get your shit stomped because you don't get to try them out and the game ends in 15-20 minutes and you get to spend another 5-8 hour grind just to try again.
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>throw down wall
>enemy silver is now a useless punching bag
its really that shrimple
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for me it's gonna be celeste is a build up pop off nutty suppy carry who rips wins outta the hands of loser ass teams like you know what i mean? it's celeste for me, then apollo, who everyone forgets but's gonna win hella shit with his aggressive and super stylish sleek clean in your face gameplay.
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>>556219429
AYE, STOP THAT YOU CUNT
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*rapes your health when you try to kill buffed troopers early game*
THANK YOU!!
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I will however stick with "THANK YOU!!" for my posts. I'm too deep in to change.
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>>556219821
>he thinks it's league jargon
these fucking newfags
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>>556219935
taker is a female
that's not me, ask greeks
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>>556220303
Her eyes look too low she looks retarded. But the art is cute otherwise. Also valve should add hero with autism or FAS or down's syndrome or some really over the top deformity (not Celeste's horn) or something.
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the greeks outlawed homosexuality
they should add a greek hero
something like
m1: throw spears
1: throw a spear that knocks enemies back and stuns them if they hit a wall
2: cone melee attack that does some knockback and slows
3: passive: when holding m2 pull up his shield, active: deploys his shield and locks rotation to 90 degrees to defend from attacks in the direction he's facing
4: create a giant colosseum that allies can pass through but enemies can't and enemies are shoved back towards the center and damaged when they touch the walls
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>any stuns like Seven or Talon snare totally shuts the ult down because no range
>Doorman can just run into you and ult you will always lose because he'll have a cart waiting once you escape
>Warden's flask+cuff combo is guaranteed because you have either one or zero stamina after it hits
>Vindicta and Kelvin literally hard counter you just by pressing 2
Silver has all the problems of Shiv's easily gankable slowness but without bloodletting, or the health, or the homing execute to make up for it. Why the fuck did they think a close range hero with zero stuns or snares would work in this game?
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>>556219910
I miss the old mcginnis design, her protective mask was peam
If they ever brought it back, it should slam down when she uses her 4
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>>556220894
>Does Valve ban cheaters
No. Never. They never have and never will do anything about cheating.
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I miss the old artstyle ngl.
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>buys debuff remover
>buys unstoppable
I think its a massive mistake to treat dog mode as the primary goal of the character
its a way to save your ass after you dive in and explode a squishy and the dog 1 acts as an execute in case your burst wasn't quite enough. disarm everyone dog piling you then when shit looks bad 2 out of danger
holding m1 is a meme and only works if your team was gonna steamroll the fight anyways
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Will I get banned if I leave? This really just isn't fun.
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You can't even increase the range of your dash attacks with items lmao. Now I'm 100% sure they barely managed to finish her before release, they didn't even have time to make her unique animations lol.
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>>556220180
not much believe it or not. humans and other species with a relatively high of degree of intelligence like dolphins or other apes will fuck anything that moves. it's really polite society and rational that stifles such behavior, and before you say "but not me! I'm not a ___ fucker" you aren't on some moral high ground. nobody cares.
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ty I think I'll play Lash Bebop Viscous then
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>Sinclair is literally just a superior Silver
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>>556221096
Think if it is not that frequent you should be fine.
>>556221223
Not him but pretty sure they/them refers to Pocket.
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Silver sends people flying with her kick in the direction of your camera.
If you wheel the camera around 180*, you can kick people behind you.
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>woe keg be upon ye
ive been learning holliday and she doesn't feel particularly more mechanically intensive than the rest
yeah you punch after throwing a barrel but that's really not that steep of a learning curve
the bounce pad air strafing doesn't feel that complicated either but that may just be the quad digit tf2 hours talking
that just leaves crackshot, which i guess consistent headshots would fit the bill but even still her skill floor feels slightly exaggerated
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>>556221314
I'm not even discribing something uncommon.
People play ring-around-the-rosie on the buff bridge ladders nearly every match and that consistently works too, so it'll be even stronger when the person your doing it against doesn't have a gun or a way to pin you down.
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good picks, bebop is really fun once you get good with hooks, can be tricky before that, also i recommend watching like a small lash guide as knowing how the games movement works helps him shine a lot more
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>>556221614
I'm still not sure how I feel aboute spirit damage scaling with a magic stat, it's a big divergence from how Dota handles its balance.
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okay THATS IT! im not jerking off until celeste gets released
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>>556222213
>throw a molotov
>goes on cooldown for 15 seconds
>lob a grenade
>goes on cooldown for 23 seconds
>activate the poopenfarten shield breaker
>goes on cooldown for 45 seconds
>activate the steak and garlic combo
>goes on cooldown for 110 seconds
wooo, exciting
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Name one reason not to buy curse or focus lens every game
especially when there's double stone Ivy or Calico against you
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I had my first loss on Graves today and I have to say that a character like her feels useless when behind. All you're capable of doing is keeping them from pushing deeper, until they have your entire team down and you feebly throw jars at them.
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>>556223024
catholics aren't cunts?
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>>556223228
red pill me on using rem's helpers on troopers
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>>556223228
>mcginnis vs rem
>spend the entire lane shooting troopers because they can tank half a mag each even with monster rounds
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Actually, when used on boxes they only have a 3s cd and only have a full cd when used on sinners/troopers/other players.
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>>556223393
maybe it's just years of playing dota talking but isn't constantly shoving the wave bad? aren't last hits more important than trying to chase out the other team, assuming they are of equal skill?
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>Made someone so mad they added me to their friends list multiple matches later because they started yelling over mic in a Mexican accent and got cut off by the match ending
Genuinely what do people think will happen? That I'm going to be like oh yeah sorry you got mad, dude.
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No, you still get souls. You just stand behind your creeps and attack the enemy, while he has to hit your creeps twice as long because of the Rem buff. Your creeps will hit the enemy more, and you'll be able to hit the enemy more, too.
Also, in deadlock, the fact that you get souls from proximity and tower aggro works differently means you pretty much always want to be shoving the lane. This isn't just a Rem thing.
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>constantly shove the wave
>their ganker constantly comes to gape your asshole because you have the wave shoved outside of relative safety
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shoving the lane is good in deadlock
diving is reliable, you can secure boxes which take less time to farm than the next creep wave showing up, guardians die faster and more easily than a t1, there aren't tps, and the distance between guardians is tiny
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I see. I have been enlightened just a tiny bit more.
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To add to my comment here: >>556223721, the main reason you farm close to/under your tower in Dota is because you can't get right clicked by the enemy hero or he'll take tower damage. In Deadlock, the towers just attack the closest thing, and so if the enemy has a full wave of creeps next to your tower, he can harass you at will until his wave dies. Thus, you pretty much always want to be attacking creeps and shoving the wave.
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>buying curse for echo shard ivy
the trouble with that build is that you need superior duration, vortex web, echo shard, and this is before considering your 4800 gun and vitality spikes. this is on a hero that sucks dick at farming early unless your team somehow feels like saccing every sinner and solo lane
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55 minute games don't bother me because I'm not a zoomer with an ADHD-ridden brain from tiktok nor a third worlder that has to rent a computer in an Internet cafe where time is money.
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>4 Losses in a row
>Key player in all 4 for having most kills on my team
Do I count these as wins?
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>>556224393
humans have been eating dog for the past 9k-14k years. humans started eating pigs about 8.6k years ago.
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what about it? I don't work 16 hours a day 7 days a week
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>"Turkish Silver"
uhhh
what did they mean by this?
>The Grey Wolves (Turkish: Bozkurtlar), officially known by the short name Idealist Hearths (Turkish: Ülkü Ocakları,) is a Turkish far-right political movement and the youth wing of the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP). Commonly described as ultranationalist, neo-fascist, Islamo-nationalist (sometimes secular), and racist, the Grey Wolves have been described by some scholars, journalists, and governments as a death squad and a terrorist organization.
maybe download this mod before normies realize what kind ofdogwhistle it is
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>>556224959
is it because you're being carried by smurfs? that's where most of my wins are coming from lately. that and people on the other team ragequitting
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>>556225193
I know you don't realize this because you're brown, but white people who go in the sun don't turn into swarthy Mexicans they turn into slightly tanned white people or they get sunburned
she's also a magical cursed being and pale skin is just rightfully recognized as more attractive by everyone who hasn't rejected objective standards of beauty out of spite
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FLOOD ALARM
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>>556225374
no the fuck they don't
I don't know what ethnicity gets the high blood pressure pigskin tan but most white people tan normally
I think the only people who do are brits and they're an ugly, dysgenic breed
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>wraith is a stream nigger
>constantly talking
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Which Haze mod do I get to make her guns cooler? So they don't look like a Lego piece (pic related).
I do NOT want her to be a Valve unoriginal black woman. I want the flowy hair that belongs to a white woman shrouded in dream magic. I do like yellow OSIC more than this orange OSIC though.
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What is a single minor QoL thing you'd love for them to add?
For me it's a more noticeable headshot indicator and sound, it's a very minor thing but it makes a huge difference in making gunplay more enjoyable, a jolt of dopamine.
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It feels like it depends on the composition of the enemy team. Half of the roster hard counters Silver. Basically anyone with healing, CC, burst damage, or good mobility can make you game unplayable. Like, I transform into a wolf but the enemy team has Bebop, so I'll go kill some creeps because the entire enemy team is standing under the tower waiting, and I'm basically useless here. I really like the idea of spontaneous transformation, but most of the time it was more of a hindrance than a help.
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>>556226136
On that topic, am I the only one who misses the tubes on her guns? Her guns felt more weird and odd, which I personally felt fit her oddjob.
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>people are starting to pick up that 3 first rem is broken in lane
Stop it niggers you're gonna get my son nerfed. Only I, who has been doing that since day 1, have the right to use that strat
All of you should just be working to keep hir wr under 45% so icefraud never notices the monster he released and keeps buffing him FOR ME
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>endless graves crybaby seethe like victor’s release
sigh, why do low rank shitters absolutely sperg out on a heroes with the simplest, direct counterplay
one thousand more years of gun warden and bebop rape though is better !!
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>you're gonna get my son nerfed
then he can finally retire and have my children
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Once she gets her ult the lane's over. If you feel threatened by people calling out your easy mode character maybe you belong in lower ranks.
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Please get those brain worms removed soon.
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>>556226810
It didn't even have coombait characters until 6 months ago when Mina arrived. Even now it's safe-horny stuff. It was going to be a woke faggot game before Valve saw what would happen with that and hard pivoted away to add more attractive characters.
It's basically Dota (or League if you're more familiar, but actually more in common with Dota) but a third person shooter with intensive movement mechanics.
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I haven't lost to a graves
I'm pretty sure she's supposed to brool with her skulls to protect them while stealing spirit res so they do more damage, but most of them are too stupid to build greens. the character just dies
tombstone is retarded. even if you back off and disengage then the zombies still auto push waves and create space
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>drifter alt fire: slashes in front of him like silver ult form, doesn't waste ammo and can be used while reloading but reload is halted while using it
>vyper alt fire: shoots 40% faster with a 50% accuracy debuff
>graves alt fire: deals 50% less damage but slightly pulls the target towards her
Thoughts, none of those heroes benefit from aiming anyway?
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>Silver's release pushes the player numbers higher than Rem and Graves
>she sucks
Whatever they're paying these clowns at Valve, it's too much
Anyone with their head screwed on right knows that Silver would be the most popular character
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the vyper buff is insane. giving her free 40% firerate would have her melt objectives even harder, and it's not like you can miss something as big as a walker. the graves buff is also stupid, if you're going spirit the gun damage means little to you but a slow would add far too much utility.
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If it makes yurifags fuck off from the game, that’s all that matters
I hope Celeste is ass too
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>>556227472
this image is so fucking gay and lame compared to what we were posting 10 years ago
"chudjaks" ruined the right
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Anyone know how to fix the HUD getting fully stuck open in Brawl like this? Ended up playin the whole damn match this way. Thankfully I was playing Graves so it's not like aim particularly mattered but kinda hard to have awareness of what's going on when the top half of your screen is covered by shit
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>>556211058
game warring is really lame and faggy but this does show the difference between male brain character design and female brain character design
I don't dislike nudeadlock but its clear that a lead artist grew up on tumblr
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>>556227664
doesn't matter how you label the player base; that's what they voted for
>>556227751
the vote was an empirical conclusion, unless you want to make the argument people didn't vote for the hero they wanted the most?
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>>556227692
How do we fix Silver, realistically and without a complete rework of her weapon or skills? Dogshit laning phase wouldn't be a problem if she had other things going for her but not really at the moment.
Also in other news people were getting mad at Graves nerf but most players I see still seem to be doing good with her, could it be Gravesfags are dishonest?
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>>556228076
you may not like it but valve probably made the right move not designing characters that still appeal to people that are now in their 40s.
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>>556228137
1. I think her tier 3 ult upgrade should be given to her base ult at half effectiveness. Half the duration restored, half the heal, half the cooldown reduction on wolf abilities. Then I think her m1 should apply something similar to fury swipes in dota 2.
And give her slightly faster base fire rate at the beginning of the game. If you do all that I think she's good, aside from maybe giving her a little more base hp
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Silver just needs one more stamina bar and more numbers all around. I really don't see why her gun should only have 5 shots and fire so slow when there's an Abrams. If that's not enough, give her another passive to 4, something like some stats from wolf form in normal form depending on her rage is.
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>internet cuts out
>get banned
so fucking gay, valve needs to differentiate unintentional d/cs and not ban for this shit
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>>556228653
This post just hit me like the restaurant critic in Ratatouille except instead of remembering food I remember playing Dota and getting low prio because my wifi would cut out randomly and having this exact thought.
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>>556228653
what does it matter if it was unintentional or not if the outcome is the same? having a stable Internet connection is your or your household's responsibility.
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>>556204876
>paige and mina
It'd be neat to see Silver's and Shiv's interactions but I don't know if Paige and Mina would be that interesting.
Feel like you could replace Mina with Billy and this would be way more interesting. Either that or replace Paige with Billy.
Or just straight up replace both of them with Abrams and Dynamo, have a guys trip with a girl that's One Of The Boys if that makes sense.
I put way too much thought into this.
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>>556204405
I wish they'd remove the rank shit in this game for now or make a separate queue
I know rank really doesnt fucking matter right now but it's still annoying and kinda stressful when I just want to have fun or fuck around with testing shit on the new characters
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>>556228860
you should see the hair around her asshole
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>>556228949
you should be doing that in private bot matches anyway instead of fucking over other people's matches, regardless of if it's ranked or not or co-op.
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Deadlocksisters.. its officially OVER, TF2troons won..
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Is Silver a virgin?
I don't play female characters who have ruined their purity.
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Yeah the numbers are whack, but it's more about the idea of giving alt fires to heroes who don't care about aiming at all
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>>556205401
she's good but she gets insanely fucked over by CC and she has none outside of her bola
other melee oriented characters like billy or abrams have CC and shit so late game they have more use
if the enemy team has a brain and CC which they should they will just chain-cc lock you into death even when you get into wolf
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>>556228860
Go to the doctor and get your testosterone checked.
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Hugging ivy's perfectly flat and slightly rough stone cold chest!
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>>556212915
>try to queue silver in both gamemodes
>can't get her without burning a token
>When I burn my token my teammates feed a bebop so hard he healed over 12k from spirit lifesteal alone
AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>556229528
>diaperfurs
but he's barebutt and perfectly hygienic
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>>556229326
1) you don't need to feed to actively ruin a match
2) rank still won't matter to people who don't play for rank whether it's closed beta or not. what matters is some asshole ruining their (un)ranked match
3) there's already a place for non-tryhards faggots such as yourself and I already told you what it was. use the tools already given to you.
the world doesn't revolve around your opinions let alone what's convenient for you, nigger
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>>556217195
The funniest shit to me is when I play with friends who just started, so I see a lot of newbs and I tend to give them tips in chat, item to use and what not. At one point my friend told me :
>That must be a change from high elo, huh ? Seeing people who don't know anything about the game doing stupid mistakes
Nope, that never change.
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>>556229649
I shaved my armpit one time and now I have a reoccurring cyst in one of my armpits that gets swollen, it comes and goes randomly but never comes to a head to properly drain. I could unironically get sepsis from it one day and die. Thanks a lot, jews.
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>>556229840
>game adjusts your MMR if you haven't played a character a lot
>get turbo smurfs regardless if I pick a hero I've played for a year or a literal brand new hero without fail
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>>556229845
NTA but going off model to make him pear shaped is a big giveaway
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See!?
Silver isn't bad, YOU'RE just bad, she doesn't even have the lowest winrate anymore.
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>>556229990
would you guys frot with Celeste?
I'm not gay but I would.
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>>556227751
Silver jacked the player numbers up because all the secondaries that were going "VOTE SILVER" only downloaded the game to play as her.
It quickly settled back down to the normal player count because these faggots found out deadlock isn't finished, nor a team shooter and got filtered hard by the moba aspects.
Also yuri-fags projecting got BTFO after it turns out the only person she actively finds attractive is victor and the leaked lines about "her asking celeste to a bar" was a complete nothing burger as she's a fucking alcoholic.
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>>556230103
Why do you have this saved?
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>>556230167
>Silver jacked the player numbers up because all the secondaries that were going "VOTE SILVER" only downloaded the game to play as her.
Holy headcanon
Silver has definitely had the most amount of people talking about her since they revealed the new 6 heroes and the player numbers back it up.
Voting is also more of a "who has the most grinding neets voting for them" rather than a normal vote.
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>>556230167
>You don't understand! You have to play characters you don't like while waiting for a character you're interested in!
It's not even muh waifu, I just don't like the playstyle of the old characters and Silver offered exactly what I wanted.
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>>556230229
I didn't until a minute ago to provide an example supporting my claim. here's something I've had saved for over a year.
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Silver is the first "real" character in the patch, and she's a hot girl. Rem is gay furry bait lame support character with an unbearable voice/voice lines and Graves is destined to forever be either broken or nerfed into the ground, a glorified splitpush bot.
Venator is the next "real" character in the patch but he doesn't have the hot girl buff.
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>>556230134
I think silver is a skill-issue hero but I'll gladly take buffs that don't do anything for shitters because they still don't know how to play her and only serve to make her good playstyles even better.
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>>556230631
yeah imagine if she was bottom heavy with a big butt and thighs and just pinchable little perky tits haha and all the other characters always greet her by slapping her on the butt and she pretends to hate it but secretly likes the attention haha
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>wonder what the retards on the official discord are saying about Silver
>check the Silver channel
>there are "people" unironically saying she doesn't need buffs and all her weaknesses are skill issues
>and that once "real players" start playing her then she'll actually turn out to be broken
I sincerely hope that Yoshi and friends only made those channels as placebo feedback and completely ignore these retarded monkeys.
By almost every single metric, Silver is weak and bad, shitty hp, 2 stamina for some reason, arguably the worst gun, bad scaling, a lot weaker to her weaknesses than most other heroes, an extremely situational ult that's not even that good and is functionally out of your control and can simply be waited out.
I don't know what has to be wrong with you to not see that Silver is bad, she's utterly reliant on her team holding her hand.
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>q brool as silver
>max gun
>rape people in ult with m1 spam
she's so easy
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>>556230891
character from one of my fav looney tunes shorts
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>>556230820
>just say you hate kids bro
yeah, sure, why not
>also, "kids"
>a "kid" voiced by an adult, probably a woman doing a kiddy voice, with lines written by redditors/tumblr hires
I can jerk off to Graves.
>>556230925
Play the game.
People say to play like 10 minutes of an aim trainer every day and you'll see results over time.
Figure out a sensitivity that feels good and gives you a reasonable cm or inch per 360 for your desk/mouse pad space (how many centimeters or inches it takes you to move your mouse to do a full 360 in game)
Speaking of which, you probably want a mousepad. Sweats and tryhards use glass pads but that seems like overkill.
Speaking of sens, most people say to use a lower sens because it's better to aim with your arm and make micro adjustments with your wrist both in terms of precision and also to avoid repetitive strain injury but that's up to you.
And a crosshair that works for you (when you aim, you shouldn't be following your crosshair, you should be "looking past it", it should just be there enough that your brain registers it while aiming, but not stupidly obtrusive, and a good color that stands out like bright green).
Make sure you don't have anything causing input lag like frame gen (does Deadlock even have frame gen?)
Make sure if you have a 144hz monitor or whatever to go into display settings -> advanced display settings in Windows and actually set the monitor to its proper fresh rate if you didn't or if you recently installed fresh drivers
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went from 2-8 w/l to this, never give up !!
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So when the fuck does this game actually release? Played a good few hours and I don't get what's stopping them from just slapping a store/ranked mode and releasing it as it.
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>>556231551
that's any team that matchmaking wants you to win against to maintain your forced 50% winrate
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>>556231553
All the parts of the map with grey walls is unfinished. The vast majority of the old cast needs visual reworks (Viscous, Shiv, Talon, Yamato, Sinclair...) or polish (Seven, Warden, Calico, Wraith...). The MM algorithm still isn't good. Proper tutorials to the level of DotA 2 need to be made. Various UI stuff. We also need maybe 5-10 new characters.
They're getting there but depending on how fast they work, could be anytime from late this year to late 2027.
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>>556231553
you mean besides half the characters not having their final design set yet, or how the majority of the backend systems not being in place, like proper MMR or ranked? zoomers are completely buck-broken by the modern game industry that they don't know games used to ship after they was completed and mostly bug-free.
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Just started playing this today and I like how Seven plays but no one else has really clicked with me so far. Who else should I try out?
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>>556231618
Yeah I know but street brawl has its seperate balancing.
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I don't even know what that means, unc.
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>>556232076
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>check out several different deadlock streams
>all of them have suspiciously accurate tracking
They're cheating aren't they?
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>dozens of e6 players
e621 players, you mean
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>>556230857
the heal should stop on hero damage or at least a melee
it's retarded how it takes like 4 heavy melees to kill it, like genuinely braindead unbelievable dogshit balance
who the fuck approves some of the kits in this game? they're legitimately either useless like mirage forever or overpowered forever like haze+paige
the balancing team is just the worst I've ever seen even netease, a mobile game company, is better at balancing marvel rivals
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>Graves on enemy brawl team
>I'm playing Sinclair
>Win
Wow!
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Anyone got a link to a good Sinclair Bunny punch build? My pure Bunny/ult build is budgeted at around 35k so it has no room for extra melee items, I need to make some cuts.
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>>556232523
I don't know for a fact but this game does have controller support and it's not uncommon for game devs to add "aim assist" to controller plebs. if its tranny or girl streamers they'll blatantly aimbot on stream because they know there's a very low chance they'll face any consequences for cheating.
I remember watching a known aimbotter girl streamer playing marvel rivals and her crosshair would snap to the heads of people behind walls. she got called out so many times she started using a hand cam to show her mouse and keyboard but the thing is her mouse would barely ever move but her crosshair would swing 180 degrees and snap to opponents head still
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>>556232993
>he doesn't know the sloptube meta
when you're a "content creator" for a live service game, any video on a new addition (weapon/character) should be "[NEW THING] IS ACTUALLY BROKEN??!!!" with an optional pic of you doing a pogface in the corner.
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>>556231510
Basically from the moment she gets ult t9 min 20 she's the best hero in the game(while in ult)
I dont agree with all this guys takes but he nailed the silver breakdown
https://youtu.be/JVehMLnNdGI?si=Y0jF6MW7SS79AUfz
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>>556233163
its kinda fact though, silver is OP, it'll turn out that way as the good people learn her and the noobs in this thread learn to hit all 3 Q shots, you'll see, knowers and good players are already catching on
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>>556233221
I dunno man. Silver occupies the same spot as a good Abrams to me. Not overly dangerous on their own, not something you can ignore either but the real danger is just how much they distract and ruin your positioning while the rest of their team lays on the hurt.
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She hasnt gone up, those are the eternus stats
Shes still the lowest WR in averaged
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>5 seconds in
>"EVERYONE THOUGHT GRAVES WAS JUNK, I THOUGHT GRAVES WAS JUNK, THEN SHE GOT NERFED"
So already he throws his credibility out the window by being both wrong in gauging public perception and being himself retarded and wrong
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>>556233565
she's a burst pick off character that dives in then turns into a space creating bulletsponge tank
people think of the transform as potential man and try to get clipfarm moments of holding m1 at people but that's not the point. the functionality of being a big fuck off healthbar in the middle of a fight is really strong if you have a team. issue is everyone thinks they're the main character
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I have zero fucking Rem pics because I've only seen gay porn of him posted.
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