i hate heat cascade so fucking much

Why'd you make another one

>>563355983
to make the mindraped halo tard seethe

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>Should have let it die edition

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Marty won

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>failing at the easiest grift in existance

>>563356469
they weren't making a halo general tho?

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>no friends
>dont want to run this shit with random fills
time to sell em

Chuds got owned

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>outpost fill
>three free kits
>nothing to lose
>run up on some blues and purples
>we skin them and exfil

What a weird, fast match. No idea why this guy brought in all this gear AND a Marathon key for some reason. Oh well, all mine now.

holy deadgameroni

>>563355867
Why wouldn't they just attach a bigger cyber-penis?

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Installed to let my last purple shield go, theres no fucking loot on cryo no more. Uninstalled after my death, at least got one fucker nad last team to miss their exfil

>Knife 10 fuckers for Arachne

Goes surprisingly well.

Where the fuck is the hype?

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the general wasn't even dead you retards just forgot to make a new thread
girl on the left owes me sex

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>>563360752
>the general wasn't even dead
Good one

>>563356646
/ourguy/ Marty
He won
Trump won
Bungay lost BIGLY

>>563360867
Yeah bro 819 replies is dead as shit

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>>563360979
400 of those were me making fun of it and (You)

what happened to
>Im having A FUN
>Bungie returned to form
>This is like halo!
>I don't care about numbers, the weekend will save us!
>This game is A FUN!
this thread is just filled with people laughing at this trans coded game

whats the deal with cryo and preservation, everytime ive spawned there we've been bum rushed by another squad

>>563361079
>half the general was calling the game shit
So just like every general then?

>>563361330
Name one besides /dg/

>>563361117
I like the game but it gets worse and worse each day as only gold geared gods and free kit rats are left. There's also just not much to do. It's hard to believe it took 5 of years of dev time to get 4 maps and only Cryo and Pinwheel has any real objectives.

>This shit cost at least $260M
>4 maps
>7 heroes
>Dead after 2 weeks

>>563355971
I read in the tool tips that hardware helps with that. Who'd've fuck'n thought?

>>563361428
Jackie Chan

>>563361428
/mrg/
/dlg/
/owg/
/fog/
I don't remember the name but the Roguelike general was full of complaining the last time I checked
Is the /mtgag/ general still a thing? That was a big one for shitposting about how awful the game was

Give us this day our daily seethe.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.

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>Saturday night
>Player count goes down
I thought everyone was busy on Friday night

>>563364880
Turbo button?

>>563364880
Commence the jigglin y'all

>>563365607
Some weird interaction with the gold mod Repeater in my other slot. On the one hand - free ammo/weirdly fast reload, on the other, the extra shells from carnage cartridge and the reload from empty chip didn't work.

>>563365781
Neat

>Got three new uniques, two cryo keys, and a gold leg implant
What's your Cryo haul this weekend boys?

>>563366575
NOTHING I LOST EVERYTHING

>>563365308
KWAB

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>>563366575
First subroutine. We also actually cleared vault 02, but crew member who had the subroutine got fucked up by bots on the way to final exfil and died. I got to play with some gold mods I had bought from Traxus through the week which was fun, gold mod Misriah is a fuckin menace, gold mod magnum is fucking worthless, gold repeater is ass against players but >>563364880 was fun. Only got completely got by the server fucking up once, overall this was our best/most fun Cryo rotation yet.

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Do you think next week's update will contain a bunch of band-aid fixes to alleviate casual players' pain points? Would it be enough to regain some of the players who've bounced? Would it put off the diehard fans who want the balance to remain untouched?

>>563367318
I hope it doesn't go too casual

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>>563367318
This must be your first Bungie game. Free updates never fix anything, you need to pay for an expansion or sequel for any meaningful changes.

>>563367463
>>563367318
Realistically, I think people just want to be able to consistently make budget kits if you aren't that great. I am an incredibly mediocre player. I hit a snag where I run out of backpacks, out of credits and out of green shields. So you can definitely be soft bricked and then forced to free kit. What might go a long way is that escaping with a sponsored kit will net you some bonus gear only after the raid. It can change depending on the sponsored kit maybe. So escaping wiith a NuCal free kit or sponsored kit will great you some bonus med kits and shields. Escaping with a CYAC free kit will net you a green backpack or something. Just little things.

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>>563367318
Doubtful, I don't think we'll see any meaningful changes until season 2, and maybe not even then since it's probably still on rails content determined before launch. They will probably fix some sticking points for the people who are still here, like the Recon/Vandal changes, hopefully at least trying to fix the hit-reg / rubberband problems relating to ladders.
I imagine the CARRI event will be something that will attempt to help new players but will probably not really amount to much.

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>>563367318
hold on let me jus- AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA anon I-I AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

I wish they'd make Vandal slimmer

I wish they'd rape you to death

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>>563367318
yes because ziegler already confirmed we're getting some
any fix is just going to be a bandaid over a gaping wound though. rushing spawn will always be the best play with the current map sizes and movement speed, and they can't easily change either

>>563371229
I'm guessing this will be knockdown shields like Apex?

>>563371229
if only they could spare a million dollars to make some fucking maps

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I love that the character whose only redeeming factor is a double jump can't use guns while jumping

>>563372589
god please no

>>563372770
>using the freekit hardline instead of instantly killing the first robot you see for a v11 or a volt thrower

>>563372770
Why are you running hardline bwo

>>563372870
Yeah idk, I'm struggling to understand what he's saying with "common option" and "merciful option" like what more could you do in a downed state that isn't already there.

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Is this thing any good?

>>563373205
In Arc you can use defibrilators on enemy players, I think that's what they are trying to do

>>563373326
you can already drop a self-revive if you really want to rez an enemy, who the fuck is going to do that for no reason?

>>563373392
It's pretty cumbersome to do that when they can just streamline it to pushing a button

Why do retards insist on playing this no mic and team muted? I have had three dipshits who clearly have us muted and do not talk
Turn friendly fire on so I can kill these cock suckers

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It's over

>>563373451
but there's still no reason to do it, it's not going to "add texture" to fights because literally no one is ever going to think
>well i downed this guy but now that i see the revive prompt i want to pick him up and be best friends

>>563373713
Happens all the time in Arc. Maybe they are reconsidering the KoS hardcore approach because of the playercount

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>>563373081
>>563373115
I was kinda just throwing gear away, I also had a thermal sniper, which I fucking hate. The next round I managed this beauty. This shot going insanely wide left was the margin by which this fuckass assassin managed to knife me because I fucked up my first 3 shots (this was number 1)
I'm not having a great time in Dire Marsh.

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Still not playing Cryo until they add Duos or Solos to it.

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>>563373673
Why was EU CCU peak higher than NA this time? wtf?

>>563373926
The auto tracking has been kind of fucky for me lately, I think they reduced the homing arc or something secretly. Feels like I need to be pretty dead on for the bullets to actually start tracking.

>>563374030
that was a Punch, so no tracking, just kinda bad luck that I didn't react fast enough (2 frame prior he was left and in my reticule) and the hipfire inaccuracy sent it wide left instead of wide right. I didn't play it well either, but also I'm just doing 50c Co-Evolution 4 suicide runs at this point so no big loss.

>>563374173
oh rip then, thumbnail kind of looked like a volt thrower so I just didn't really look properly when I opened it

>>563373964
It's not

Does Orion have the same voice actor as Vander? Sounds extremely similar

>>563374614
Orion is hot, I wish we could side with UESC and fuck over the stupid corpo shill runners

27k peak on Saturday lol

Godamn people are bored, 3 runs in a row someone is just camping on top of bio-research waiting for someone doing one of the 800 billion contracts that require you to run through there. Is the free kit goop so alluring?

>>563375607
Retards running thru bio research looking for upgrade material are free money

Bubble needs to be deleted, not nerfed not reworked not turned into a 2x2 slot. It needs to vanish. Fucking dogshit item that negates anything punished from being caught out in the open and poor position

>>563375718
lol sucks for those high rollers I guess I brought a cardio kick and a bio-chain

>>563376329
Theres a reason Gibraltar only has 1 dome on a cool down in apex the bubble is oppressive

>>563376329
Brother Bungie has been addicted to bubble cancer for 20 years now
They have kept doing it when everyone tells them they're dogshit in every game
It's not gonna happen, they're obsessed with the bubbles.

Do chems splash into bubbles?

thinkin about biting the bullet on this game, worth picking up rn or will there be a sale soon, also ill be solo only, still worth?

>>563377574
Big time

>>563377574
>solo only
There's a lot to do solo only, but you are by definition locked out of the 4th map unless you're willing to queue with randos or find a few people to play with, and it's absolutely sweaty enough that you will need to talk to stand a chance.
I'm not sure that'll ever change, and it sucks. Two of the other three maps are great though, Dire Marsh is a fucking shithole that you'll dread having to engage with at all solo.

>>563377769
what about the 4th map makes it not queueable solo?

>>563377886
It's trios only, can't queue solo on it but that may change later

>unload 4 shots of WSTR into a purple shield point blank
>whips around and two-taps me
>we both go down
>he has self rez
>teammates doesnt come finish him quick enough
AMAZING GAME BUNGIE THANK YOU FOR THESE PAJEET NIGGER SERVERS

>>563377886
It's just locked to trios only. The reasoning is presumably that there's too many enemy NPC bots to really deal with solo reasonably, you kill roughly 30 bots in the first two rooms within like 2-3 minutes, and then breach the thunderdome with more bots and where all the players collide and high value loot is. The map is also designed to be big and fairly labyrinthine, and has a boss at the end that is sorta like a baby's first destiny raid boss - fairly simple mechanics, but 100% designed with three people doing it in mind.
It would also be a fucking horrible map to do solo as solo is VERY assassin heavy, and Cryo (4th map name) is very dark/blue in a lot of places, where assassin's cloak ability works really, really fucking well. So it would just turn into a miserable rat nest map where Assassins just camp corners/vents hoping to surprise other people with shotgun instant-kills.

Thief shouldn't be able to see other players with her visor if Im being honest. That alone makes her better than Recon, if accounting for the Recon buffs coming next week

>>563378576
The secret to this is if you don't want to kill them just down them and let them crawl in

>>563378765
It only works out to like 40m, and someone should absolutely have a built in counter to Assassin's fuckass invisibility. Recon would be a perfect shell to have that aspect instead, maybe just replace interrogate with a threat detector visor since interrogate is mostly fuckin useless.

>>563378907
Nah, I think I fully ran out of tries to give. The boring cryo run with shit loot, this rook run. I hadn't uninstalled ever since last time I played. Would be too performative but got rid of this and deadlock right now. It's just boring you know? prox chat never gets anything to do and everyone is a murderhobo. PVP alone isn't exciting.

>>563379082
Ok see ya namefag you already said you were leaving anyway

The same thing that got me tilted on the 3 red keys run where i gave them to someone else basically.
This rook run.

After playing deadlock, I was bad but then I got better and really, at least that respects your time. You get on a shit fucking match and it's your own fault for not farming the waves or not building right. BS game too.
>>563379383
Yeah I was gone though most of these past threads and it's not like the generals are packed of content to read lol, this shit is going to /vm/ like apex soon enough

>>563379462
Ok byee

>pinwheel is the only thing worth running when cryo isn't open
>not even outpost in general, literally just pinwheel
it's a well-designed arena but holy shit it's getting old. i wish lockdowns weren't so annoying to run

>>563380493
I honestly think the only lockdown area that is a piece of shit is the Maintenance one. I've had no end of teams just shuffling around at the back and waiting for someone to turn the event on

>>563380493
This is a huge issue and they made it even worse by increasing pinwheel loot. Perimeter and Marsh may as well not exist.

>>563379462
Make me cum to Slayyy again.

>>563380774
Beautiful and this is why I keep posting here, I wanted to catch you.
Hi! Add me!

You still play this shit, I am finally done with it. It's so cucked of a genre.

>>563380774
I've been giving this shit game countless attempts just so I could be updated enough for you to reply to me. Eventually in this thread...Who would do that? Moron...

>>563380557
lockdowns aren't hard they're just not worth it because they're not guaranteed

>>563381170
Yes, they ain't when the terminal is placed at the edge of the lockdown area, so teams can just rat right next to it without even using an anti-virus, then swoop in once the other team fights bots. It's especially shit in Maintenance because the terminal is placed straight next to the high wall, so teams can just wait behind and chuck nades inside.

>>563373241
maybe sometimes. id stick to bully only as long as you have ranged mods for 30-40m.

>>563373241
if you can get the recoil/ads mods for it its pretty ok

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>Vault full
>Take some of my best gear to Cryo Archive
>Try my best, but die
>Don't even feel bad about it, and now I have more vault space

>>563382045
you've discovered the loop fren...

>>563371229
>rushing spawn will always be the best play with the current map sizes and movement speed, and they can't easily change either
They could space out spawns, making sure that 2 spawn points next to each other are never used at the same time.

>>563355867
anyone playing in aus servers, is it dead?

>>563382045
I'm sitting on a purple m77 rn

>>563367318
Maybe. There should also be Recon and Vandal buffs and a new CARRI event, whatever that is. I've seen people speculate that it stands for Cryo Archive Rook Run Initiative, but that's stupid.

>>563382449
Maybe it'll rotate certain maps with additional carrier drone spawns, events and a bunch of incentives to go play a specific map which rotates daily?

>>563380493
>>563380686
Marsh technically has the anomaly but the map is even more dangerous than Outpost and the anomaly is more dangerous than clearing Pinwheel. Perimeter is the beginner map but it could really use something to do.

>>563383002
That and specific Lockdown oriented loot. Lockdowns are honestly the best singular sources for guaranteed Biolens Seeds, Shell ID's and Reflex Coils, without having to rummage through the entirety of Pinwheel.

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>chillin in some fuck off corner of cryo
>this fag runs up and domes me
cheating situation is crazy

>only meaningful content update we’re getting is night mode dire marsh (the worst map) in june
>bungie insists on saving the duos update for season 2 (june)
>bungie has to run the gauntlet of may while the game drops 10k~ concurrents every week
>every weekly patch is minuscule, no big swings anywhere
>

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/vm/ soon

>>563361117
Those faggots are fair-weather gamers. They got their 50 hours of a blast, and fucked off. Unfortunately, these are the worst people you want to attract. Because they glaze your ass with their toxic positivity and then don't even stick around to play your live service game and keep it alive.

>>563386804
umm ackshually 25k is normal for an extraction shooter you stupid fucking chud. Maybe this game isn't for you?

>>563355867
anyone got a steam game key?

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>>563373673
The raped.

Vibe: Shifted

>it's shitskin hours

aggro destroyer actually just fucks everything up, shits kinda insane

You fools. Don't you understand? No one wishes to go on.

New mode is casual rape fest

>>563384331
>playstation symbol
its like the last remaining players are all destiny console subhumans. actually noticed it a lot lately
>you VILL get aimbotted

I don't know what Bungie was thinking with the progression in this game

>>563393572
they weren't

Just rubberbanded out of cover into a outland.
How has your ///RUNS/// been /mg/?

Solo is genuine deplorable dogshit

>>563357196
Solo queue exists.

>>563373825
Arc has drop in and a way higher player count in lobbies compared to marathon, I could see this working in solos MAYBE, but the whole fixed player limit makes things weird for balancing the game.

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>>563373825
>Happens all the time in Arc
Sure, but Marathon has a slight difference from Arc.

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>Sure, but Marathon has a slight difference from Arc.

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>>563399218
Praise the sacred thermodynamics of violence!

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How will the sacred thermodynamics of violence help us with this slight difference from Arc?

>>563399768
By enhancing PvP mechanics instead of diluting them. I'd rather Marathon die than become a hugbox like Arc.

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>>563399768
69 000 dads skinned and sent back to play pretend friends in their proxy chat.

>>563366575
This is the first weekend cryo is gonna end and I’ve got like 2 guns left but my wallet is bigger and I’m up 2 prestige, a handful of purple salvage and 1 subroutine which is usually how it goes but I also usually break even on my WSTR stock. Might do one or two runs today and see if I can vacuum some off corpses for next cryo
Getting progressively sweatier every week now that average teams also move towards the spawn rush meta. The average fill queue player isn’t prepared to bunker down and counter rushes yet either

>>563399876
straight from the marketing campaign script

>>563400104
Thank you.

>>563399218
le retarded thermodynamics faec

>>563399920
le retarded permanent marker faec

>>563400457
you need to go back

ermmmm if bungie could seperate platforms and remove the retarded aim assist that'd be great

>>563401374
I'd rather play against console aimbotters than full blown PC hackers.

ermmmm if bungie could remove this retarded game from existence that'd be great

>>563401374
not a hugbox btw

>>563401374
Aim assist is the core of bungies gunplay

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>>563400649
le retarded raped faec

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>>563399768
Does more people playing necessarily mean better game though? Because a lot of people play that gacha horse girl game and I am pretty sure that game is ass.

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>>563403405
No! We need masses of third world players and even more cheaters, don't you see?

>>563403405
>>563403520
the coping phase

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>>563403664
>"It'll die any second now, we promise!"

>>563403405
We need less players so we can have nice and comfy 20 minute queues just to land in a lobby with a hacker every other game.

>>563403768
>here's why marathon having 1k players is actually a good thing

>>563403405
of course not.
Unfortunately, something not being popular doesn't mean it's good either, something most 4channers and teenagers struggle with. And as Marathon, or any live service online-only game goes, more players makes a better game for all the people playing it. Ever played an old MP game where the only people still playing it have been doing so for 10 years and have forgotten more about the game than you'll ever learn? It's a bad experience unless you're a masochist.

But also this game just won't exist if it doesn't get more players, more pressingly, so it really doesn't matter. If you wanna play the game you want more players.

>>563403903
>here's why my 16 videos of Marathon dying faster than Concord/Highguard combined missed the mark.

>>563403520
Wake up! A new marathon cope just dropped!

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the layoffs are coming
predict the number

just realized I haven’t been raped for almost a Fortnite now, feels bretty good, decided to boughted Starfield since it has been fixed and might delete Marathon, but might wait for the Night Rape map

>>563404582
>60k is good
>50k is good
>40k is good
>30k is good
>20k is good
keep moving that goal post
>BUT YOU SAID IT WAS A CONCO-
no i didnt. it sure is a big flop though. 3.6 billion dollar studio, other games are dead and this one clearly missed the mark.

>>563405384
90% of them most likely unless a miracle happens in the next year

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Today might be the day. Woke up, full day off, coffee ready... Not much desire to play. The constant narrative about how hard the game has gotten is wearing on me and I don't feel like opening the game because I'm afraid of just getting washed all day. Like no matter how hard I fight or how good I get, some team in my level bracket is just going to shit down my throat and all of it will be for nothing.

Any way to beat this? Is there hope? Is there something I can do, or is this just it? I'm the bottom 10% now and so I quit?

>it doesn't have to be Destiny numbers
>it doesn't have to beat ARC Raiders
>it doesn't have to have good matchmaking
>it doesn't have to fix the UI that's still a psychedelic fever dream
>it doesn't have to fix netcode rubberbanding across Tau Ceti
>it doesn't have to let you read terminals without squinting at ASCII vomit
>it doesn't have to have voice chat that isn't DOA
>it doesn't have to stop crashing on extract
>it doesn't have to have destructible environments worth a damn
>it doesn't have to fix audio bugs sounding like they're underwater in Australia
>it doesn't have to not feel like $40 Concord with moth aesthetics
>it doesn't have to address the plagiarism receipts Bungie swept under the rug after "crediting" the artist
>it doesn't have to have players outside 3-hour peak windows
>it doesn't have to not get compared to The Finals every thread
>it doesn't have to save Bungie from another Sony bailout rumor
>it doesn't have to be the spiritual successor oldfags begged for
>it doesn't have to have good music beyond zoomer hyperpop slop
>it doesn't have to let solos queue without getting farmed
>it doesn't have to fix the blurry chromatic aberration mess
>it doesn't have to not feel empty despite "massive" maps
>it doesn't have to have substance beyond "extract biomass lol"
>it doesn't have to be Marathon
*SLUUUUUURRRRRPPPP*

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I tried so hard
And went not very far
But in the end it didn't even matter

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>>563406870
>Any way to beat this?
Why do you need a way to beat that?
If you're not having fun, stop playing, uninstall
And then wait.
A future update might alleviate some of the pain points, and then you can pick the game back up. Or they might not, and the game just dies. This is Bungie after all.
But I don't know why you would torture yourself by trying to play a game you're clearly not enjoying anymore

To me, I can't feel the difference in players. My queue times have always been short. I play at different times as well. Just never at like 2-3am my time. So if my queue speeds are always the same, why does player count matter?

>play trios
>connection issues out the ass every 8 minutes
>play rook
>connection is fine for hours

Ignore me.

>>563407502
It's not that I don't enjoy it I just feel like there's no way to improve with the way the game is currently set up. Solos is just a stealth avoidance game. Trios will match you with ultra sweats where you just get creamed every game. So what's the point? Where can I get better?

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>Harass a team as a rook
>They all have purple shields
>Fuck off after downing and killing one of them but they're hunting me down
>Manage to hide in drone wing
>They mistake another rook in pinwheel for me while searching
>Can hear them talking in the prox chat followed by gunfire
>"PLEASE BRO I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING IM FRIE-"
>*muffled blam blam*
>quietly slip out and exfil

>>563404582
>noooo you're wrong it wasnt an utter failure because it lasted a bit longer before shutting down

>>563377574
It depends on whether you like extraction shooters or not, especially ones where in solos the playerbase is hostile 9 times out of 10. It’s not as bad as it’s made out to be and there is genuine fun to be had, but the lows in the game can truly be crushing.

why am I such a cheapskate? I could rock several great gear sets and stash is full but instead I rook when I die and then use whatever gear I gained on rook.

>>563377574
>or will there be a sale soon
No
>also ill be solo only, still worth?
No use discord

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What's the maximum you've gone with an enduring weapon? I had a bully that I got to 4x and then I got nervous and sold it with two purples and two blues for 7.1k. I was waiting to find two more purple attachments before selling and I wasn't going to risk 5x, but I needed that fuckin' vault space to stock up on barter goods.

>>563410786
This is the gameplay loop I'm at, unfortunately. My friend isn't Cryo ready and we don't have a third, so I'm saving all the great shit for that. But it means I have my hands tied as far as playing with any of it.

>>563377574
>will there be a sale soon

at this point the game is doing so poorly and things are looking so incredibly dire that I can almost guarantee if you wait till the next season it will be F2P, or shuttered, just hold on anon, you really don’t want to join the Raped

>>563411510
they are honest to god fools not doing a free weekend at this point
there are plenty of people that didn't play the server slam, or wrote off the server slam, that would probably be willing to check it out after the massive hatetrain started to die down and a tiny little ember of "actually maybe there's something to this?" began to spread
but now I think they've waited too long and those who might have cared have completely moved on and dropped it from their brainspace

>>563411803
A free weekend would only work at the launch of a new season, newbies would still be going up against a huge knowledge gap against vets but at the very least there would be no colored loot disparity. If a free weekend user were to jump in now, they’d absolutely get the floor wiped with them and truly write the game off then and there.

>>563407864
Live service multiplayer games need money, they get that money from players.

>>563413452
A free weekend will (most likely) bring in thousands of new players at once and that's going to mean there'll be, even by statistical randomness with no matchmaker, a lot of new people facing mostly new people.

I don't think waiting for the next season is going to do them any favors. There was a window (and I guess we're still vaguely in it) where the fires died down and people started looking into it to see if maybe there was something there, but now the narrative is swinging back when people look in that the game is a nightmare mess unless you've really gotten hooked into their promises. They had a good period to capitalize on the "actually this game is great!" crowd getting their voice out, but now the people who were saying that have started breaking and even the subreddit can't keep up the positivity.

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They already tried a free weekend and it didn't work, remember?

Why are the Marathon players scrambling to try to save and fix the game when Bungie should be? Pearl Abyss isn't just sitting there, they're pushing out massive updates every week that directly address feedback and communicate that they are actually working on larger changes at the same time. All Marathon gets is "ok here's duos for 5 days and then it goes away until some undetermined time". We get a patch in a few days but it's only going to be some small bug fixes. Bungie is just a bad developer.

>have purple 10k gearset
>accidentally go trio instead of solo cuz it never saves your fucking setting
>two freekit NGGERS
>get wiped by full purp faggot retard stack that almost dies

>>563414303
honestly I tried really hard to get into the alpha/beta whatever, but their discord was a single general chat and some other cryptic access places, and then a hoard of peasants begging for an invite to the test. Throngs of people, dying to get in. There was no information about how to apply, just a survey and a promised emailed confirmation. Everyone was begging, screaming even, to be let in. They were seething, and so was I for a moment.

On top of this, you had players quickly returning with their review. "Game's not even good, wouldn't continue playing." Clear across the board, the writing was on the wall. They had a nice wave of freeple trying to get in just to see the new hotness, and then casuals that would log in and bounce hard off of the game's difficult nature. I had written the game off as being a long way from release, so i unplugged and stopped going there because I was unsuccessful at jumping through the hoops to get invites.

If I had known about the server access I would've been happy to try it. I hear so many stories from these reviewers about that experience, that everything was new and there were tons of folks that had NO idea what the hell was happening. I jumped in right in the middle of week one at launch instead. Still got that immediate wave crest of unskilled server population. I miss it, to be honest.

>>563414303
i remember people saying that of COURSE people were dropping the game one day after the server slam launched, theyre waiting for the real release duh!


JEJ

>>563367723
you should work on your nucaloric contracts! i was having the problem of not having enough shields and heals and that helped. it's kinda hard finding unstable biomass to unlock the free patch kits daily but it's worth it

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The game is good. I'd just say that its difficult for weak spirited players. Honestly, the same bunch of people who bounce off of dark souls and soulslikes are the same bunch of people that bounce off here. If you look at the kinds of games they do play however, its usually low stakes "chill" games. If most gamers are these "dude chill" types, then we are doomed. I have met more people who said "Yeah man, I tried dark souls but I kept dying on the first boss so I turned it off." than I have met people who beat the game. Hard games are for gamers for sure. But the medium has been infiltrated by weak willed players who water down everything unfortunately.

>>563414627
Because there's nothing to fix.
The game is entirely built around an imaginary genre that make no sense.
It's FUBAR.

>>563415308
my nucaloric is level 21 now. I basically only focused on them for like 10 hours. But I am a shitter and die a lot but its fun. I just like being able to bring in 3 green patch kits and 3 green shield charges.

>>563415525
People bounce off bad games.
Marathon isn't a difficult game, it's an idiotic game.

>>563415525
Really liked Dark Souls. Didn't like this game. Game sucks.

>>563415702
that's why it's fun. yes it's stupid to play fps in the grand canyon but it's play, like kids do.

>>563415702
This. Even if Marathon was a truly difficult game, that's not what's preventing it from being popular. Dark Souls and Elden Ring are fucking huge because they're well-designed and fun, Marathon just isn't.

>People hate hard games, fucking plebs!
Okay so why did millions and millions of people buy Elden Ring, which has the hardest boss fights out of any Dark Souls game?
>Uhm errrr....FUCK YOU CHUD!

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>>563414627
Bungie is just a studio that's known for offloading the work onto the fans ever since Destiny. They have good elements are parts to them, but their onboarding process became dogshit since D2 Shadowkeep.

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The genre taps humans in a way that most find uncomfortable. Like most people are risk averse to a very very extreme degree. You don't realize it but the vast majority of people aren't gamblers. A casino would make you think otherwise but most people aren't gamblers. In a game like this, you are effectively gambling your gear and people don't like that unsure feeling of "I may lose this." However, I don't see it as gambling and I don't even see it as a risk. I just see it as everything is liquid and I am using this liquid as a way to achieve the goals I want. For example, I want to feel myself improving or playing better which I have been. I also want to see the lore and setting more. As well as get into build crafting a bit more. I like scrounging around and trying to overcome obstacles. So to me, there is no risk and there is no gamble. The gear is just gear.

>>563416142
Elden Ring isn't hard, outside of Malenia and DLC Radahn.

you dont lose all your progress in elden ring and everyone can overcome bosses eventually. most people cant overcome getting assfucked by better players though. beating elden ring and getting good against actual human opponents are two entirely different things.

>he fell for the dumb ragebaiting destiny chud
ik, im retarded

>>563415775
>Dark souls
>>>>>>>>>>>hard

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I honestly don't believe game populations should ever be a factor in if the game is "alive" or not. I play quake champions frequently and its a good day if that game gets 1000 players. The fucking gacha horse game has 400k players or some shit. So games that are good like quake live or quake champions have lower populations but games that are true ass like horse race gacha game have 400k plus? This leads me to belive that shit games can have high players and good games can have low players.

>>563416253
the thrill of losing a 3000 credit assault rifle is keeping me off the crypto casinos desu

>>563415991
>>563416142
soulsfaggots can't even beat ultimate zinaida

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>>563416407
>everyone can overcome bosses eventually.
Absolutely not true given how some peoples souls are created. I have met people who forced themselves to fight tree sentinel over and over again in Elden Ring and then they quit because they thought the game was setting them up to fail. Some people are dumb as fucking rocks in addition to having a weak soul. What you described is NOT the norm. The souls games have more people that quit them than they do people that beat them.

>Starfeld CCU is demolishing Marathon CCU

Starfield! FUCKING STARFIELD!!! Bungo offices must be an absolute warzone…

I saw a video today about how Rook might be Marathon's version of a seasonal artifact because of its entry saying that Rooks meant to be tinkered with.

>>563416253
it is funny how much fun the BR33 is to use and how the thought of losing it and being forced to play with the Overrun makes me feel so much less excited to launch the game at all

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>>563416914
>NOt ThE NoRm

Add pve nigga

>>563417385
What? I don't know what your screen shot proves. That boss is mandatory to fight if you want to beat the game. Elden ring came out what.. 4 years ago? So in 4 years only 40 percent of people have that achievement? Seems like a lot of people had their soul broken at one point and never returned.

>>563417414
Remove pve cracka

>>563417414
Depends on how its implemented. IF they just add "Maps but PvE" its going to fuck the balance too much. Because then the play is to just do Outpost but PvE then take the loot you acquired in PvE into PvP which is lame in my opinion. There is no way they can make the risk the same between both the modes. In all comes down to risk balance. If one mode is significantly more easy to gain loot in, people will just do that.

>>563417602
its like the second last boss chud. in fact most bosses have a success rate of well over 40% from the players.

that such a large % of players beat most bosses in the game obviously tells us that it is in fact the norm.

Realistically, how much should a game coddle to more "casual" players? I think Arc Raiders probably took the spectrum the wrong way. Apparently in the game if you do get into the "Rape Free" lobbies, you basically never lose loot. So how do they ever keep any tension in the lobbies? Or is it literally just giant kumbaya loot fests of people just roaming around and opening cabinets?

>>563418092
>40 percent is large
>that boss is second to last
What the fuck is going on here? The point I am making is that for a game that has been out for 4 years, the expectation on completion should be higher. Its not because people get filtered. Hard. That boss you screen shotted should realistically be 80+ completion because it has been out forever now and he is mandatory. But he doesn't. Why?

>>563418442
bruh most people dont play elden ring for 4 years retard

It's over for Marathon, space Tarkov is coming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HXp0KTNBm4

>>563418709
I'm not playing Slavshit or stuff starring Slavs

I want to play as hot chicks

I didn't play Marathon at all yesterday

>>563418709
>space tarkov
thats marathon
>all that storycrap and worldbuilding and marketing bullshit
this game is going to suck ass

>>563418229
>Realistically, how much should a game coddle to more "casual" players?
Zero amount, casuals are scum

>>563416707
Yeah but if I tried playing Quake Champions today, I would have a miserable time getting smeared into the floor by people that haven't stopped playing since launch. So is the current state of Marathon. This is how games die.

>>563419083
Marathon isn't Tarkov, it's Destiny 2 gambit but worse.

Literally all they need to do is enable some form of SBMM into season two and the entire game will feel better for it. If they aren't doing this behind the scenes already, they're completely delusional and the game is lost.

>>563419613
What you don't like Level Based MM and getting punted into the rape squads if you just play the game semi-regularly with trios?

>>563419987
>>563419613
SBMMers need to die. Get better or quit. If you're already matching with streamers you need to form your own team

>>563419613
SBMM mixed with bot players would truly be the only thing that could save Marathon. The higher you level up the harder it is to get back up from hard losses.

>>563416707
It's the rape genre there's not much else you can do. But something you can do is make the maps much larger. More places to loot, more places to hide from the kill squads, more places to discreetly extract.

>>563419151
>hurrrr casuals are le scum
You have to accommodate them somehow. The whole reason the playerbase is in freefall without any signs of stopping is because the bottom 10% are getting raped 24/7 and giving up. You think you're safe because you're not a shitter, but the more people leave, the more the average skill level increases. It's a rape conga line and sooner or later you're going to find yourself at the front of it.

>>563420246
>the bottom 10% are getting raped 24/7 and giving up
Do you think that people just starting the game are facing against level 100 players? That's not how matchmaking works.

>>563420169
>Get better or quit.
The message has been understood, the raped are fleeing

would you guys play a mode in this game at all with limited loot that let you grab basic items like ammo and consumables that was solely co-operative? i would

>>563420509
anon you can just grab every sparkleaf you see and you’ll get healing items for free as you play

Either make the game pvp only or pve only. Don't mix both.

>>563419328
>Marathon isn't Tarkov
Indeed, it's much harder and more unforgiving than Tarkov

>>563420169
LBMM is aids and will always be aids because it doesn't account for anything except the funny number. You're just another fag who wants to farm retards and then cry about nobody wanting to play your game anymore. I've seen your kind a hundred hundred times across games. Genuinely subhuman.

>Bungie NEEDS to add a PVE mode!! I keep getting third partied!!
That’s the point. Contracts, bosses, they’re all designed to get you running through hotspots and making noise to consistently generate PVP content. Stop doing your contracts and start camping the locations and wiping lobbies and make your own PVE mode.

>>563420938
t. has never played Tarkov

>>563420978
They have sbmm it's called ranked

do people really think a pve mode would be fun? because the uesc aren't interesting enough to carry a pve mode imo. they're filler enemies that are juuust challenging enough to keep you engaged in between pvp but if fighting them was all you did you'd get bored after an hour

>>563392371
what's casual about that?

>>563420978
I play on my PS5 for an hour after work every other day. If you can't beat me, I don't think you're worth catering to.

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>>563421342
The mode that is completely compromised by cheaters?

>>563421375
Nothing, if you want to test your skills go to ranked

>>563421525
If you think there are cheaters that you will encounter in bronze III, I don't know how to help you

>>563421667
anon there's cheaters in unranked perimeter

>>563421147
Yes I did, but you haven't played either.
Dis you know you can secure loot in Tarkov and can't in Marathon?
That in Tarkov you can equalize any gear fight with headshot and ambushes while being outgeared in Marathon turns the game into survival horror?
Do you know that being passive is nearly impossible in Marathon and good players have countless ways to rotate (even with shell specific movement abilities).
Marathon is far more mechanically complex than Tarkov, regardless of the latter milsim larp

>>563421342
Pinnacle players can buy low stakes tokens :)

>>563419187
are the real enemy of games the autistics who never stop playing?

>>563422340
unironically yes

>>563421754
Don't forget that Tarkov squads have friendly fire and no icons showing them where their allies are. A Tarkov squad with shit comms can unironically be at a disadvantage against a decent solo player; in Marathon n+1 is always better and the only counter to snowballing is self-revive spam.

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>>563422439
>There are still autistics playing unreal tournament 2004 who never stopped.

>>563398383
how am i supposed to solo the cryo keys though

>>563421754
What a fucking retard

>>563418572
and it turns out most people who played elden ring couldn't beat it

>>563422340
not really because those games wouldnt have been big anyway. the general public was not clamoring for quake champions or marathon, the general public doesnt want to play hardcore turbosweaty shit even if you add sbmm. these are games designed to appeal to autists and gen xers (who grew up in the era when all video games were designed to appeal to autists) so of course they end up with small autistic playerbases

I dont understand what the point was of Bungie adding Recon when there's UAPs or whatever that can showcase where enemies are on points of interest. She's useless compared to any other class.

>>563422961
I accept your concession

My favorite thing about Recon is her scan pulse just giving her position away when Thief can scan fuckers for free with almost no drawback because gamers don't look up.

>>563423494
And steal loot and check rarity and counter invis and smoke and they hack turrets on the same ability why not and have a reposition tool that doesn't build heat and fucking works in places that aren't perfectly flat hey why is every team 2x thief and a destroyer thats weird

>>563423308
I get the feeling Recon was designed specifically in a bubble of 'counters Assassin but don't counter too hard' early into development and just never got updated. Like her niche is 'pressing an advantage' but her retarded drone and 'come kill me' prime means she has little to no ability to make an advantage happen, and finisher being stupid to do 90% of the time a fight is still ongoing and her complete lack of mobility means stalker is less useful than it would be on half the other shells.

>>563423494
People are starting to catch on to the sound the drone makes, though it also doesn't reveal where the thief is just by using it

>>563423909
>though it also doesn't reveal where the thief is just by using it
Yeah and if you go see what people are saying online they just go "yeah just ignore the drone and go find the thief and kill her she can't kill you if she's in it" like yeah nigga let me fucking slice the pie and full sweep the map while she's watching me and can swap out if I start getting close to where she's hiding. If I see a thief drone scouting at a POI I'm in in solos I just fuck off from there.

Another day of cheating to ruin the game.
Feelsgoodman.

>>563424248
Based, keep up the good work

>>563423494
The point of the scan is getting real time pings and being instantly aware of other crews when you start making noise, not detecting enemies

>>563424418
The pings aren't real time, they're just TAD pulses centered on your player model. If they were actually real time pings that'd theoretically be an okay tradeoff for giving yourself away.

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A PvE mode isn't gonna work because the PvE in this game is a joke besides maybe Compiler and even that isn't so hard, just tanky. I think what it actually needs is a mode where you start with a free kit on Perimeter and exfil your way to Cryo. If you wipe you gotta start back at Perimeter.

>>563424618
they are buffing necron already (and thats a bad thing)

>>563425378
Will the pings be real time?

>>563423494
Thief has built-in x-ray and anti-smoke glasses, it's fucking retarded that her visor even scans players. The only benefit to it being toggled on should be the hack when landing hits on players but otherwise it should not be able to see them through smoke or walls.

my favorite thing about thief is running away from my team to loot a purple on perimeter and then saying "jeez the loot here sure sucks..." over mic

I have literally never been outgunned by a Recon that is stupid enough to use their scan in solos but the amount of times I've been droned out and pushed by Thieves is enough to be genuinely annoying. Awareness is the ultimate tool in this game and their kit is way too strong at it.

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>server slam and week 1 were fun because nobody knew what to do
>S2 reset is going to be sweatier than the current game because everyone will go back to zero and everyone will be rushing upgrades and contracts so the sweats wont be in endless cryo/outpost loop.

>>563424618
>The pings aren't real time,
Yes they are

>>563415525
>Comparing Dark Souls
>with Marathon

Duskbloods will corpsefuck every bungo employee from marathons grave.
On a shitty handgeld console.
That costs 500 burgermoneys.
With online fee of 20 burgermoneys.

Marathon is just shit and unfun.

>>563425365
They did something like that in Let it Die Inferno, basically an extraction Soulslike. It worked fine for what it was, problem was that the game was so low budget and it felt like you were in mostly the same environments.

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>>563426727
Duskbloods is going to be a true sight to behold, probably the first Fromsoft flop in their modern era besides Deracine.
>on a console with people who don't care for Fromsoft games
>using not-BB imagery so people view it as a knockoff
>with a mode that even Nightreign players don't care for
>putting high focus on an aspect of Souls games that everyone views as a janky minigame for griefing lulz but never to be taken too seriously

>>563421346
Its not about the fun, its about getting your shit done without some giganigga shooting you on spawn.
If it was about the fun, Bungo would have made an actually fun game instead of this skinnerbox.

I expected more PvE and Coop, i dont want to become an MMO Mob or NPC for a better player to farm.
I feel like a uberjeets whenever i die with purple salvage in my freekit backpack.

I just want to do all priority contracts and delete the game from my drive.

>>563427413
I dont play to buy a snitch for it, but i will bet you it will still sell more than marathon.

I only bought marathon cause i wanted to check out PvPvE, and its the most dogshit genre in existence.

But, if anyone can pull it off, it will be GODzaki.
I hope he sits in his dungeon, witnesses this pile of shit burning and grinns his ass of while taking notes.

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I got a message in-game to do a survey.

They're getting desperate as fuck. Bungie NEVER gives a shit about what players think, EVER.

>>563427413
You overestimate FROMsloppers. They'll buy it in droves, they'll buy a Switch to play it even if they never touch another game on the console (they did this with Playstations for Bloodborne), and they'll sing its praises to high heaven because FROMslop is their religion and Miyazaki is their god.

>>563428773
Those are kinda just sent out randomly, I think I got a mail for one of those 3 weeks ago.

>>563427801
Stop moving like a npc then
Grenades, shorties, and snipers are cheap

>>563427801
No

I will just wait for PvE mode or my refund.

I will get one of those eventually.

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I have booted the game up 3 times this morning and end up closing it after fiddling with my vault for a few minutes. I'm genuinely paralyzed at the thought of going into fill trios to be the only kitted player, or doing solos and getting rat camped by assassins. I'm level 77. I have 160 hours on this game. It was so much fun for a while.

What the fuck did they do to fuck this up so badly.

>>563411263
So basically no one gambles with enduring here?

>>563430020
Sounds like you just have gear fear. Let it go, your vault fills back up before you know it.

>>563430101
I just don't keep track of it at all. I know I exceeded whatever the requirement for that one codex challenge was on a backpack and haven't thought about it since. Surviving runs doesn't really mean too much since if I want to do that I'll just be a passive rat in solo and take a safe late exfil with a smoke.

i fucking suck at pvp but there isnt enough pvp and isnt consistent enough to git good, wat do?

>>563428601
See
>>563421074

You’re making yourself the content when you commit to PVE.

>>563430269
>I'll just be a passive rat in solo and take a safe late exfil with a smoke.
I loaded up on all my enduring once to do this and it didn't go so well. Also I hate waiting until the late part of the map holding an already stuffed bag.

>>563430126
It doesn't though. My vault is full through barters not because I'm killing people in PvP. How the hell are you supposed to get better at PvP in this game when you're at my level and every game is just getting pasted into the ground by invisible shotguns or premade purple trio stacks?

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>>563430404
The answer to this in games like Hunt Showdown is just play more, queue more. You get better because the game lets you. Marathon, however, you will die and keep dying over and over, learning nothing, and wasting your entire vault. It's incredible they never even thought of that considering it's the prime driver behind why people quit extraction games. Can't get good if you're just getting railed every single game, every single encounter.

In fact they made it worse with LBMM; lmao doing your contracts actually means you put yourself in tougher PvP lobbies lmao lmao lmao youll never get better ahahahaha

>>563415525
Dark Souls is mostly a PvE game and people that keep losing in that are mostly encountering a skill issue because the game is learnable and designed to be beaten and will never change. Marathon on the other hand is the worst aspects of any PvP shooter with abilities and poor weapon balancing its basically just D2 crucible but even more giga aids. Since its also live service good luck learning a gun or character because within 3-6 months or less they could be completely gimped. That is not even mentioning other issues with Marathon's PvP besides balancing like the self cannibalization of the playerbase with sweats and streamers running around murdering everyone until they quit out of frustration. There is also external factors like cheaters that you have to worry about as well. If you compare Marathon's PvE to any other FPS shooter's PvE its laughably easy and is obvously just filler to make up for all the dead space between PvP fights. Vast majority gamers have never really engaged with PvP games that have stakes beyond just losing a match for decades. Writing people off that are dropping a game as "weak willed" is just cope to distract from poor design.

>>563430020
You can just chill for a couple days

>>563430020
Just use the 2.5k sponsor kits, no ones gonna bat an eye at green shields outside of cryo, sekgen starts you with a volley rifle too.
Completely anecdotal but I feel like green shields still get pulled from the same pool of free kitters the game seems to enjoy paring with actually geared players

>>563415525
>all that rambling just to say "git gud"
You are a subhuman retard.

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>>563430431
We will see.

I have trust in micheal zaki.
Cant say the same for bungo retards.

>Duskbloods will launch with PvE mode pic rel

hit a free kit run on perimeter and lucked into a massively geared squad that we ganked and took out
quadrupled my vault value and snatched a ton of useful salvage for upgrades, what a w
and i finished that arachne contract and the level up awarded me a wstr instead of a lmg

>>563430701
this is an interesting post. why do you think you can't get better at mara pvp? i have, observably, over my time playing it. but i have practice in csgo and valorant and quake live.

>>563433616
It's not really possible to get better when half the games, you get immediately beamed down upon making contact with the enemy, and the other, you maybe get 2-3 engagements that are so far apart you never get really warmed up. Feels like there isn't enough gunplay to GET better.

>>563433616
Not him but I barely get to actually play. I just die too fast and the vault melts too quickly.
Also, that assumes you are only playing for pvp. If you play for contracts / pve, there's not much you can learn if shitters shoot you in the back or camp your poi or camp your exfil.

>>563434460
>>563434634
i've died to ppl who remind me of what you're saying a few times but the game seems to have then moved me out of their lobbies

They really need to nerf UESC troops when solo-queueing.
Either less of them or not as hard hitting.

Yeah call me a shitter if you will. It's still true.

>>563434735
(same anon self replying) you might need to do stuff like mess with your mouse sensitivity or play kovaaks

>>563434825
they already did once