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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
/sthg/ #9237 - Sally Sprite Edition
==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 22 April 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 10 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 24 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - Summer 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026
==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4 (embed)
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r (embed)
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg
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Read this without laughing
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another poolrat
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Are you guys ready to welcome the newest member of the babylon rouges this wednesday?
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I prefer my version
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Previous thread was shit. i hate sonamyfags, sonamyshizos and anything to do with sonamy really
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I like this one that the link goes to. >>563471802
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It's probably bipolar disorder or related. I'm not laughing anon. Mental illness is prevalent in smart people because your brain isn't equipped to handle it all.
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With great and fervent hope, 2027 will be the tribunal Yuji Naka will be tried and convicted in before the eyes of those he brushed off and dismissed because of their desire for Sonic and Amy to be a true couple
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Noise at night
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Stop right there, Creaminal Scum!
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bestie...
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Nerds
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Hello everyone.
I hope everyone has a wonderful day/night.
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Yeah we smart here
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What's next for her?
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I hate rouge so much
Her smug bimbo face and bitch attitude makes me want to kill her
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Sal!
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>S: What's the matter? Something catch your eye?
>K: No, It's nothing...
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you're welcome ^^
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>ONE *munch munch munch* BADASS HEDGE *crunch* HEDGEHOG
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cOQk6aE6wY
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Holy shit, you added a fucking Ian Flynn quote. Are you demented? Are you drugged-out?
Ian "There-Is-No-Money" Flynn?
Ian "Silver-Is-A-Nice-Boy" Flynn?
Ian "Death-Egg-Robot-Was-Fought-By-Super-Sonic" Flynn?
Ian "I-Can't-Even-Interpret-The-Mandates-Correctly-Because-Of-A-Combinatio n-Of-Language-Barrier-And-Social-Cu es" Flynn?
... You know what? No. I'm at a newfound homeostasis with my incredulity. This is like getting disappointed with a sloth for being slow. It's like yelling at my faucet for leaking. No different than slapping a fish for choking on air. Some people are just beyond fixing. You are one of them. Have a nice life, I guess.
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Here's the full whiteboard. Thank you to everyone who showed up!
Full-res image is in the booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=19648
PSD archive (includes uncensored boards):
https://mega.nz/folder/DKBSlDYb#GdR4FN7QFEOFtS_30ZT4_A
Hope you all had a nice Easter!
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Kinda dissapointed the sonic master system releases never got to have the earlier weird minimalists cover prints
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>Held on June 28 (Sun): A live event where you can experience the music of the "Sonic" series with your whole body
>**SONIC -LIVE! A Musical Odyssey of Sonic the Hedgehog**
>A one-day-only live performance by a band and specially assembled orchestra formed for this live event!
>General ticket sales now available at each ticket agency!
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>standard 6 string guitar
>7 string guitar
How good are Shadow's finger skills?
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Super cute! <3
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Fatdow
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Not only is the entire whiteboard a banger but the Mystic Realm shoutout is the icing on the cake. not even Bean can ruin my smile rn 10lels/10
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>FINISH THEY/THEM
>*KRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*
>FATALITY
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Great work kids. Look at all those great, highly beloved characters (and Silver)!
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So say we all.
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*flies over everything and wins*
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Nothing makes you realize where you are as an artist like being forced to draw in ink (or in my case, fine point sharpie). The skill gap between "Oh I made a mistake. That's fine, I'll just erase it" and "Ah shit, I didn't read the line properly" shows the difference between an amateur and an intermediate.
You wanna be a lv2 artist i.e. fast. You get it right the first time.
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I like the little corner SonKnux fans have made... it's nice...
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I firmly maintain the belief that middle route with the springs is impossible without tails
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Probably not. I'm drawing the god-tier Looney Tunes characters not Sonic stuff. I doubt anyone here cares.
Pat Benatar's Heartbreaker was playing as I drew Daffy. Weirdly suiting.
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Sonic shares design roots with Looney Tunes, it's honestly what I should be studying for beaks and such
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After we were done playing I switched to Sonic and realized he had different mechanics for the mod, and then I played the mod's tutorial and it seems that those walljumping mechanics are what the entire game is built around, so we may have missed part of the intended experience. Maybe it has something to do with that, I think you can get a lot of height with those walljumps if you do them right
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Eggman's her plaything.
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is that right? I think it says something about how well designed it all was that we got as far as we did without knowing that.
that makes lots more sense in quite a few areas now that i think about it. It just wasn't until that specific part that the wall was finally reached
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What's your opinion on this orange creature?
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>Why can't you be more like Sally?
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Well, more Felix the Cat than Looney Tunes. That said, very few things don't have some influence from the Gods of animation.
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They say hatred is born from fear. But what do I fear of Silver, a copy of a copy of Sonic? What does a time traveller have that fills me with hate? A fear of undoing Sonic and what he stands for: A proclaimed hero by others who is beyond the extraordinary. He lives life to the fullest with no regrets, and when adventure calls he reacts appropriately and swiftly. To have all of that torn down by some nobody that is a walking undo button, angers me. The once almighty hero that could always beat the odds and gods is now lesser than a grey hedgehog time being that may as well be the hand of fate according to their universe. Silver for all his fraudulence makes Sonic into the very thing Silver is called by existing: weak, a fraud, not nearly as capable as one would believe
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>Childhood 'Eggman' attack on hometown left him with Severe Expressive Aphasia
>Grew up with Tangle in Spiral Hill
>Learned sign language from her
>Got into archeology
>Utilizes ancient technology and uses it for tools/transportation/weaponry
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It all started when he joined the Sonic Academy...
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She'snot mine.
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>creation of Dark Gaia
>daughter of a Babylonian squad captain
>career brawler
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>lackadaisical tech wiz
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broadly what I'm working with so far
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>>563481296
Reynard and Jai-li's dark mentor, the cultivator and devourer of sin. He's a wolf snake and plays into the original mythos of Renard the Fox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynard_the_Fox#Ysengrimus
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Wolf Snake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycodon_capucinus
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Why are you discussing this off-topic shit instead of Sonic?? Find a chat room for yourselves fags.
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>>563481941
Yup.
'Nards and him have a bit of a beef...
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Creamy weamy wet n dreamy
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You'd rather spam random shit that has nothing to do with the general than discuss Sonic. No wonder why /sthg/ hates OCs so much now.
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*PECKS YOU* (affectionately)
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How does she manage to look lewder with pants on? Surely no one but Sonic's ONLY OFFICIAL WIFE could pull off such a feat.
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KING shit.
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>samefagging this hard
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHANONONONONOAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
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He's quoting the wrong guy again by the way. If you want to be mad at me at least reply to my posts!
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Delusional
see >>563482526
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>reply to my posts!
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Amy harem
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>Sonic is gently resting his hand on the back of Amy's head in a comforting manner as she cries into his chest in spite of him being nervous at all the attention he's getting
If no one was looking, he would've wrapped his left arm around Amy's back and would've begun to softly stroke the back of her head
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It's not OOC. Sonic literally hugs Amy back in Frontiers
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Apparently, then gets a crossbow.
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hi guys, my boyfriend loves Sonic. I came here because I want to learn more so I can impress him with my Sonic knowledge. I'm embarrassed to say I only know Sonic through some cartoons,I think I know the basics but apparently the cartoons change a lot so for all I know Sonic is actually green like the smurfs (if anyone gets that reference). Tell me what I should know about Sonic and why he has endured so long in your hearts,and are the games girl-friendly.
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What?
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No, it's Sonic's tail.
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Guys I really really really wanna fuck Cream
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>2005 Altered Beast reboot was such a flop not even SoA wants it leaving SoE to try to salvage SoJ's mess
>they make a Sonic game a few years later where Sonic alters into a beast
Was Sega trying to kill the series at this time?
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This is something Amy would do for Sonic
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Sonic Team really needs to portray Amy making good food for Sonic to eat in 2027. It's such a missed opportunity. It sucks so much that according to the writers of Sonic Boom, this scene and all the other ones weren't romantic and were just making fun of the ship. Typical millennial garbage.
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You know exactly what the left side is
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>Imagine
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>This is a compilation of information shared by Hoshino and Nakamura about the recent Sonic-themed café that opened this month in Taiwan, presented at the latest Sonic Fan Meeting there
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It's astounding how Evan manages to conceive every stereotypical tumblr trope so effortlessly with no self awareness. It just makes it obvious how much of her dogshit is virtue signaling and not actually thought out. Not an original bone in her body, 1000 more tropes and ideas I can find in every bad tumblr fanfiction.
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>>563490670
It is kind of sad in a way. Her writing is literally what you get from a tumblr fanfic in every way. It's the kind of thing someone would come up with if they wanted to make a mockery of tumblr mischaracterization.
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>>563490792
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>>563490967
>People on the alphabet spectrum are more likely to be liberals than conservatives.
>There is a high and noticeable correlation between being on the alphabet spectrum and being autistic.
Not a coincidence
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It's exhausting knowing exactly when we're talking to the uwuver silvazefoid that hates marine. You talk like a tumblr bitch and you spaz more noticeably than most schizos in this thread. Most people here dislike evan and you're always first to defend her
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>>563491147
Yeah.
https://youtu.be/kfEYOIn8Ktk?si=JDdM5BRg-TOj4HOE
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>>563491305
I don't read the comics. I'm tired of seeing the same rehashed posts, it's how I feel when any of the staff (comic/game/etc) are brought up. I only singled you out because you only come here to complain about her.
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Sonic 4 Complete, the full game featuring all the episodes!
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The movies aren't autistic
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Smiling friends is over...
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Shouldnt sonic team have more of a saying power on international projects rather than sega of america themselves?
It's their world and characters after all
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>>563494869
Yes and this is how Sonic Team would protect their franchise from bad employees but unfortunately, that's not what Sonic Team is doing right now. It's Sega of America that's wearing the pants in the relationship right now and that's not good at all
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anon, SoA isn't some rouge entity within Sega with a hateboner for Sonic Team
anything that gets done in this series has been overseen and approved by all relevant decision-making parties and to believe otherwise is lunacy, and yes that includes anything you yourself might not like
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They ended the show before Sonic could do a cameo. Bastards
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Shadow Generations and its animated episodes were translated accurately from English to Japanese, which I really liked. Why was this not the case for Frontiers and Crossworlds? This isn'r right. This isn't fair.
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>lesbians
>looking good
They're old and ugly druggies, and i'm not even joking i saw them irl.
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>>563495871
CHADckles always getting the girls first
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>>563496075
>the idea than wimpy is realistic
Finally someone says it. It's by far the shittiest aspect of this angle as these retards try to frame it as "toxic masculinity" if you don't start crying and balling like a baby as the slightest inconvenience and also ignore that the slob sack idw ocs exist for this reason so they can have it. But it's not enough, they want to see SONIC become a blubbering baby. Gigi is especially guilty of this mindset. It's definitely a fetish
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Tails is the true sonic wife.
After all he's always glued to him in every fucking media.
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Tails is your son.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dcBi0ByPVAE
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Movie, prime and idwtards of today's fanbase would have defended picrel
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None of your OCs are rapeable enough for me
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>>563496732
Open this fucking door and take my OC.
Or i swear to god i will tear it down.
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>>563496718
In a vacuum, this is a fun little indie design character for a typical 2d platformer.
But its not, the context is that this was some guys pretentious pitch to completely change the Sonic franchise and brand identity to this. This is someone who thinks they understand Sonic, thinks these are small tweaks to design, story and gameplay, but when you see it visualized, it's the furthest thing from anything people see appeal in the franchise for.
The most damning part of this is how he thinks this gives the series more identity when his example makes it more generic like any indie project you've ever seen.
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>With sonic defeated eggman took over the world, he raped the entire planet while zavok took a ride on sonic every sunday morning for months
That's it, this was the canon ending, all that came after until this very day is sonic hallucinating after yet another buttfuck by nintendo characters.
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You can't expect a corporate workplace to be that clean and collected right? miss communications, personal issues and half assed decisions are part of our lives, what ever SEGA does correctly is a high chance it was out of luck
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>>563500872
maybe if they had kept a leash on the americans they wouldn't have gotten their project raped. Fuck soa, and fuck soj. Both sides are retarded and all of this could have easily been avoided if both parties weren't massive dickheads
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Funny thing is people point to pre-Adventure as "the dark ages". That wasn't even close- the games were intact. Manuals were stuff most parents threw away as packaging junk like the instructions on how to operate that toy firetruck you had when you were two. Now it's actually bad because it'd directly affecting ingame content and we're on the verge of a segregation of canon (if it hasn't already happened)
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Are we done getting sonic characters for crossworlds now or is there still hope for
Gemerl
Marine
Ariem
Infinite
Surge
Kit
Lanolin
Clutch
Jewel
Chaos
Tikal
Eggman Nega
Mephiles
Zor
Zik
Zenna
Zomom
I wish we didn't have to waste slots on Avatar and TMNT the avatar movie got leaked in it's entirety and those motherfuckers replaced everybody's voices AND the story sucked, the TMNT despite the stage being from rise is confirmed to be the 80s Turtles I'm so sick of the 80s Turtles why couldn't it of at least been the 2003 turtles? Shit like this is why we keep losing to Mario say what you will about his boring ass games and by numbers movies but at least it's within Nintendo properties and not whoring ourselves to every fucker who wants to smash us I hate it, I hate being a slut
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I'm not sure who wins the aesthetic battle between Cream and Zooey, they both complement Tails pretty well.
>Cosmo and Mina?
Greenand deadand purple contrast too much.
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>SEGA
>a project out of love
Do you listen to yourself when you speak, goy?
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>>563501046
If someone acts like a dick to you, should you act kind in return?
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What was bad is releasing shitty comics and a shitty show that destroys what Sonic is. Sonic isn't some haremslopped protagonist who thinks "What girls should I make out with?"
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>Sonic isn't some haremslopped protagonist who thinks "What girls should I make out with?"
Funny, we only knew that because of Sonic CD. Before then? Well, Sonic 1 had the Madonna and groupies concept. Now consider these comics and shows only started coming out after Sonic 2. Series was young.
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What Japan should have done was make Sonic a JP only game series for a few years before releasing Adventure to the west.
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And Japan using their wisdom realized that was a bad idea and didn't go through with. A series being young doesn't excuse character destruction. Should Eggman be a genocidal dictator that potentially terrifies kids? Should Sonic spend most of his time hiding experiencing furry soap operas during downtimes?
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This hopefully doesn't need to be said, but I need to make sure that you know that if you're playing the laggy Switch version with its heavily downgraded graphics you shouldn't be saying anything about that
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Sorry but WHAT battle strategies, Knucklehead?? What, motherfucker? Stop larping, you fundamental shithead. Knuckles from day-one only --O N L Y-- had the advantage over Sonic and Tails because they came to his home turf and he knows the terrain like the back of his knuckle-spikes. He'd be a master of guerrilla warfare, fine. That's respectable. But on the surface? He's terrible! His "strategies" don't amount to beans! He shouldn't be anywhere NEAR the "commander" position! In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if his island was boobytrapped by other echidnas, not him! I mean, thonkabout it! You think Knuckleshit had the ingenuity for all those traps?
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>who wins the aesthetic battle
Marine and its SOJ approved
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>Tails and Cream visiting Vanilla who appreciates that they are getting along so well, not having the heart to tell them that Cheese will be taking her to the great hero garden in the sky soon.
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The remaining JPcucks at SOA suck Windii's clit who didn't screw with Marine's koalafucker accent, so you can rest assured they won't dare touch it.
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Saw a qrt to this post that said this
>A lot of Sonic fans have gotten too old for this series and have developed the worst kinda mentality for what it "should" be. They can't enjoy anything from it because they can't satisfy what "their" Sonic is in their head.
But apparently, they weren't talking about 2000s fans, they're talking about the fans the picture describes and that made me realize something.
The 2010s and idw era kids are already getting old. The 2010s kids already are. IDW started in 2018, a twelve year old could have picked it up and been an adult by now. They're already getting too old for this by their own logic they use against 2000s erafags. And they're getting phased out by gen alphies that like hype moments and aura and jjk because it partly aligns with what 2000s erafags want.
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Is it really that much more complicated than Infinite?
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Her glasses disguise has more personality than her actual personality
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>look, I just wanted to play unleashed on a modern console
>what, 360? my grandparents had that
>if you're that old, go play the coin-collecting games in origins
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Elon thought about doing this and all it does is split his wealth 10 ways, and all his kids fucking hate him.
Very boomer brained. Have as many kids because it makes YOU happy and gets you many slaves bound to you by blood, fuck their own happiness or safety. The third world also does this.
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>>563508535
*Gen alpha hates the millennial tumblr shit that the 2010s brought
There's westshit that doesn't have this problem, but they're fewer and farther in-between. The kind of writing Evan and Gigi want to put into the series only appeals to what are now mid-twenties aged individuals and not the new kids who are being pulled into the series from seeing clips of the hype aura sonic vs shadow fight in movie 3 or the titan fights of frontiers or the dark beginnings animation while engaging with childrens horrorslop like poppy playtime and sonic.exe because it's edgy.
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Good western characters: Naugus, Nicole, snively, Fiona, Thunderbolt, Cassia, Clove, Dr Finitevus, Surge, Kit, Tangle
These could fit into the Japanese canon and world building if they tried with minimal changes without feeling too out of place, in a theoretical SA3, unleashed 2, third storybook game, or Sonic 06 remastered
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>These could fit into the Japanese canon
I'd argue Whisper can too if you just removed all the crying and therapy shit Evan added in the second half of the comic run. Sniper wolf furry should not have been that hard to do well
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Kids like all sorts of things, including cutesy things. You mentioned Poppy but most kids like mascot horror for the cartoony character designs not the horror elements
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>most kids like mascot horror for the cartoony character designs not the horror elements
If that were true, they would flock to regular children's content. It's a mixture of both because they like the feeling that they're engaging with something fucked up and "mature". It's the same logic that led to the edgy phases in the 2000s and why we got Shadow with guns and swears.
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Kids only like these because they feature cartoony character designs that are often times more cute than scary. They don't engage with conventional horror at all
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>They don't engage with conventional horror at all
That's my original point though. They like kiddie stuff with a pretense of maturity. It's the reason why kids autistically flocked and latched onto sonic into the mid 2000s to adulthood. Or why we have kids that grew up into adults still attached to fnaf.
It's also why the meta era had no staying power, its too mild and actually targeted at kids in a way they can tell they're being talked down to.
They don't care for real conventional horror, but give them a beloved cartoon characters in a fucked up setting and they'll eat it up like their last breakfast
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All the themes of 2010s era tumblr crap is full of messaging that talks down to their audience like babies and therapy shit that treats them like they're helpless. It's not a surprise kids are tossing it to the side. It doesn't uplift them, its patronizing and annoying to them especially when they can choose between that and their "hype moments and aura" that actually gets them excited
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They like stuff like Kirby and Mario and Pokemon and those are very clearly kids things without "edginess" (no I won't consider Twitter-tier examples of edginess like a care bear doing a cool finishing move)
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Like the other anon said, a redesign is the only thing that’s required. And the relation to witchcart is genuinely a nice memberberry before they became too over the top (time stones)
An evil as fuck wizard who’s in it for the love of the game is great. It’s great for low stakes stories that give eggman someone to outsmart without being the typical end of the world doomsday monster. My selection criteria is "do I think their presence enriches the jp canon without having to change the character severely"
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It’s really sad that Sonic fans are so browbeaten into being afraid of edginess because of shadow the hedgehog, despite it obviously selling gangbusters in the modern era.
Mario and even fucking spongebob has routinely been more edgy than Corporate the Hedgehog
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Yes, I think anon still has a point though, the mix of both has its own appeal, and a lot of Sonic media in the 2010s did a poor job at being purely cutesy (and then did a poor job when it tried to mix both again with Forces). At least some of its attempt at comedy with the Boom cartoon were liked by kids
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You don't know what edgy means and lazily apply it to anything. Lost World has edgy moments according to you
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>>563511342
I think Colors reception was an overcorrection for Unleashed, because it's not that good either. Better than Boom/Forces, at least. No one looks back fondly on Baldy McNosehair and even recently I've seen new players say it just isn't very fun compared to some of the other games.
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What I'm saying is that kids like cutesy media for kids, but also like cutesy media for kids that has elements that they see as "for adults", and a lot of Sonic media does or at least tries to do the latter. That doesn't mean a series that doesn't try to look "grown up" at all can't be successful with kids, it also doesn't mean it's automatically a success. Anon was definitely correct about that.
>Colors and Generations and Mania were successful when they came out
Only Generations was successful with a large portion of kids. You don't really see anyone nostalgic for Colors or Mania nowadays, those were primarily praised by the adults they were pandering to. The 2010s were a waste because they spent most of the decade on a failed spinoff series no one cares about, Mania is a low budget rehash, Generations is a rehash, and those are the only two games that people still care about today.
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Kirby, Mario and Pokemon appeal to different sensibilities though and are not victims of 2010s tumblr writing (for the most part not including the movie) which was my point. Cutesy things is not the same as constant therapy talk. And besides that, one can like Mario and something tonally the opposite like Jujutsu Kaisen but you won't like those for the same reasons. And most probably wouldn't like Jujutsu Kaisen as much if it suddenly became very light hearted and cute.
Sonic at its core has always been marketed as the "edgier" one to Mario, so if you get into it for it's edgier qualities, it suddenly switching to what it did in the 2010s is bizarre.
In this current era of Sonic that's blooming through the rise of gen alpha that got tired of the therapy shit and media talking down to them about their emotions or how they should feel and the preaching, they're not going to fuck with the 2010s era Sonic as much either and they're fighting against idwfags too.
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NTA but I did and now I have to deal withPASSIVE-FUCKING-AGGRESSIVEJaps all the time.No one prepares you for how PASSIVE-FUCKING-AGGRESSIVE the Japanese are.
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>>563511745
I agree with you, but I don't know why you're making this about "IDW therapy shit" as you call it, that's not in any of the 2010s games, which I'd say are unfitting of the Sonic series and unappealing in their own ways that have nothing to do with IDW.
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When I was a kid, I definitely recognized a difference between a simple lighthearted story and a story with more serious elements that wants you to get invested and emotional while still using cute characters. I liked (and still like) both for different reasons.
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You shouldn't have fallen for the Wii meme, DS Colors is unironically the best portable game since Advance 1
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>>563512231
Edgy now means anything that’s meant to be taken seriously.
But I do disagree that (old) Mario and SpongeBob weren’t edgy. There was some genuinely mean spirited stuff in the older works that got past corporate review because things were less locked down. Super paper mario (mimi's head cracking and breaking upside down as she chases you as a freakish spider abomination) comes to mind. Stuff like that would never happen now because it’d scare some retarded boomer who tries to sue the company over it these days.
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That was actually my impression soon after I started playing, but at that point I couldn't just get the DS version, so I could only play the demo of it. I remember bringing up that idea online and everyone told me I was wrong and that the DS version was bad because it included various characters in the dialogue for side missions.
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>Naugus
Useless, we have the witchcart from Tails Sky Patrol.
>Nicole
Sage.
>snively
Sage, Orbot and Cubot.
>Fiona
Wave and Rouge.
>Thunderbolt, Cassia, Clove
All useless and Eggman has already Sage and Orbot and Cubot.
> Dr Finitevus
Breaking Knuckles canon, no.
>Surge
Shadow, Silver, Jet, etc. No.
>Kit
Battle Bird Armada for Tails. Useless.
>Tangle
Literally Amy is RIGHT THERE.
Games are perfectly sufficient on characters. Stop shoving in your retarded comic shit and let it go.
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>that's not in any of the 2010s games
I think that it is between Lost World and Sonic Boom, that's where I remember seeing the tumblr side of the community start to crop up. Boom sonic is more sarcastic and willing to show vulnerabilities mainly due to it being a comedy show and making these things into a joke. It very much consisted of millennial humor especially toward it's second season with the meta jokes. With Lost World it tried to make make a melodrama factor between Sonic and Tails and make sonic learn some bizarre lesson about trusting Tails and the uncharacteristic whining over loosing his buddy. Lost World is the game that pontaff had the most control over script-wise of any of the 2010s games and it shows. This writing did not show its ugly rear and effects until the late 2010s going into 2020 with idw and prime however.
Therapy speak, the obsession with making sonic cry and be vulnerable, the obsession with making the cast more relatable and realistic is the cascading effect from boom and the meta era not taking these characters seriously. Laughing at yourself and the self deprecation was "relatable" and made these characters feel more "real" for breaking the 4th wall and not taking their roles sincerely. Prime and IDW only expanded an issue that was simmering on the surface that now the push back to get away from that and go back to more sincere writing like the 2000s is being met with the "that's boring and toxic".
Current gen alpha culture is built upon faux sincerity in which anything once consider cringe and played straight with sincerity is now based and hype and has aura no matter how ridiculous is can be. Which is why they have similar pushback to the 2010s era and idwfags that 2000s era adventurefags have even if the reasoning is not quite the same.
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>using characters made after Nicole and snivelys existence as reasons for them being bad
kek. Cubot/Cubot, and sage are literal expies of Nicole and snively, and yet they still do it worse than what came before.
Also, Nicole is completely different from sage. She’s more like a rival to her.
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Bro kids don't give a shit about windnic. I've seen a lot of them headcanon Sonic as having ADHD or whatever because of his portrayals in the movies and Prime. And Prime's characters like Nine or Chaos Sonic were liked by them
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>>563513245
Gen Alpha culture is really bad unfortunately. Worse than Gen Z therapy speak. At least therapy culture is unique to itself, while Gen Alpha is a bastardization of shounen. jjk and nu-dragonball are awful and pale in comparison to what came before. Even the "hype moments and aura" are complete trash and can’t even aesthetically accomplish in 10 pages what piccolo or vegeta could do in 1.
It reminds me a lot of Invincible, actually. Worthless shit once you look past the surface level glazing. Zero substance.
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>Bro kids don't give a shit about windnic.
Where did I say they do? I said that I don't think they care about the characterizations or character development either way. I think they liked Prime for the fast action scenes, Nine and Chaos Sonic are liked because of the action scenes.
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>piccolo or vegeta
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https://youtu.be/_CIYR_XgBSY?si=RQiYPgWrPdf0XGY3
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Looks great. Who's the artist? Google, Yandex and SauceNao give me fuck all.
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>>563513461
For the 2000s era adventurefags we know this is driven mainly by nostalgia, but I do think theres merit in the idea that going back to the sensibilities shown in that era would be complete nostalgia baiting as there are aspects that aren't quite dated yet the same way we see with classic sonic themes. These are the types that are more focused on say characterization.
For gen alpha, they're not as attached so in the end I don't think sonic needs to be quite in character for them as it is they just want him to be "cool". They slander the fuck out of my hero academia these days so essentially they want him to be anything but a deku or a too emotional hero ala steven universe who they also slander a lot.
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That's also the bad side to gen alpha cause thats where the standards stop. They're happy as long as they get their action and fights and cool animation and flashing likes like demon slayer. They're not paying that much attention to sonic being written like shit in prime outside of the last season where they complain about him not locking in.
But that's also why they align with 2000s erafags, they wouldnt be mad if sonic suddenly goes to back to windshit the concepts utilized in the 2000s plus the titan fights of frontiers are still what they're into and as far as they can tell, idwfags/boomfags want sonic to be the opposite of their hype moments and aura
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>>563513638
Yes.
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You think you're so slick, disrespecting the SOURCE MATERIAL that 99% of people on this world love and have for years. You think you're so cool having the nerve to tell me some fanfiction OCs no one ever heard should take priority over ACTUAL game characters.
That's cute.
>>563514286
Westies just cannot think at all. They have no principle, no dignity. They want to tear down everything for only them, a minority of minority.
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>>563514424
>understanding what makes good things good makes you le cringe nerd
Okay, have fun with your ghetto rap, shit in the streets, and dogshit action or writing. Enjoy being "based" in a literal landfill while boomers got to enjoy the pinnacle of civilization.
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>>563514538
Characters like Kakashi and Gojo are loved so an IC Sonic could be loved too. Just make him cool again. Kids and teens would appreciate it.
https://youtu.be/GYtxRmFwMcY?si=saE98_m7roOaR7Ds
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>>563514667
All very reasonable, I have nothing to add.
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Yes, that's what that means.
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Sonic Colors on Wii was the first game that made me question the general consensus of Sonic fans, people just wanted the daytime stages from Unleashed but it was so cut down for Wii, the levels were way too short just like Sonic Team warned Unleashed would be on a less powerful console withput nighttime stages, and the ranking requirements were dumbed-down for little kids. It should've really been insulting for Nintendo fans who wanted Unleashed HD, but amazingly, people liked the saturday-morning simplicity. Apparently they LIKED the Happy Tree Friends writers at the time. They ENJOYED that you could turn your brain off completely. I thought they were all nuts. The wisdom on this game seems to have turned by Colors Ultimate, but not for the right reasons.
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>an IC Sonic could be loved too
That's what I'm saying essentially. IC Sonic would still be loved by gen alpha's standards even if it's for shallower reasons than the 2000s era crowd. And that's also why I'm saying idwfags/2010 erafags are getting phased out between with this slight overlapping alignment, it puts them at a minority position while they are becoming older and no longer being the target audience. To go back to 2000s era concepts or at least and IC sonic would give sega and sonic team the nostalgiabait money from the 2000s era crowd while also still getting the money of the modern target audience
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Again source? Reverse image search is a piece of shit these days
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>another westtard moment forcing irrelevant ocshit
>another westtard moment imagining scenarios on his mind
Falseflag as jpgods as much as you wanna, know that everyone knows your shtick by now. Mods will come eventually and delete all your shit, and we will see once and once again how much of a pathetic you are.
Go off, lil' westie.
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>people just wanted the daytime stages from Unleashed
And I still don't know why. Hold the forward button and avoid obstacles. It's very shallow compared to any Sonic game that came before. The Werehog is the more substantial part of the game.
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>Hold the forward button and avoid obstacles. It's very shallow compared to any Sonic game that came before.
I've seen some dumb shit posted in this general before but god damn. You just described every Sonic game.
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>>563515357
Man I just want more Sonic Adventure 1 but more expansive and polished...
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>>563515461
If playing a 3D Sonic game with Sonic elements is what they wanted then they would have asked for more of Adventure/Heroes, not high budget Subway Surfers.
>>563515539
No, I didn't. Sonic doesn't play like that in the games released before Unleashed. There was no "automatically go forward with invincibility button", movement was more natural and didn't mostly involve just switching between 3 to 6 lanes at a set distance by pressing L/R, the main challenge didn't revolve around hitting QTEs. I don't even dislike Unleashed, but it's very dumbed down compared to everything before it.
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>>563515730
If she was, the most fitting comparison for her abilities is Shinra Kusakabe.
>>563515797
Iron Man is just Eggman, which is cool in that regard, but only half of what Tails is, and going in that direction hurts Tails' character because it's one step away from making him the guy in the chair.
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>Colors has better controls and bigger emphasis on platforming.
This is true, but I rarely see people praise it for this. Even back then, it's not something most people liked or cared about.
>You could finally play as Super Sonic again.
That's a 100% completion bonus that amounts to nothing. A fun unlockable, but you mess with it for 3 minutes and then you stop playing. It can't be a major factor for anything.
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Sonic doesn't have to be IC to be cool.
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>Sonic doesn't have to be IC to be cool.
He doesn't, but a gen alphie wouldn't complain about an in character sonic the way idwfags do by calling him boring because he doesnt cry and have mental problems
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You're not getting anywhere if you try playing the Classics or the Adventure games as if holding right/forward is the same as the boost. Those games demand you to move, change directions, stop, go slower, speed up, use different attacks, engage with enemies and gimmicks, and had more platforming than Unleashed. Rolling has its own properties and is used to gain height. Rail grinding in Adventure 2 actually had its own unique mechanics, whereas Unleashed just makes you go forward and that's it. Unleashed is extremely dumbed down and its positive reception lead to the later games dumbing down the Unleashed day gameplay even more. That's how it got even more degraded with Colors, Generations, and especially Forces.
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Yes, even Rush had a more involved Boost system than Unleashed. Rush also doesn't rely on 3D, which is where Unleashed gets dumbed down the most with its lazy lane switching level design and pointless rails.
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>>563516539
Other way around, westietroon. :)
>>563516518
Diversity of soul, kino and cinema, all coming from japanese people, yes.
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>You're not getting anywhere if you try playing the Classics or the Adventure games as if holding right/forward is the same as the boost. Those games demand you to move, change directions, stop, go slower, speed up, use different attacks, engage with enemies and gimmicks
So sidestepping, drift turns, choosing to boost or not boost, slides and homing attacks, and light dash? Okay.
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>>563515639
Tails has been becoming less of a fighter and more of "the tech guy" for a long time now. Maybe having another tech character would be good for Tails since it could highlight his other skills instead of being pure tech support and turning into picrel.
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NTA but Gen alpha is the generation more likely to be friendly and welcoming to jpsonic than the millennial/zoomer hybrid of the 2010s
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>NO YOU MUST ENJOY SONIC MY WAY
>NO YOU MUST ENJOY IT MY WAY
>MY WAY IS THE CORRECT PATH
>YOU CANT DO THAT WITH THE HEDGEHOG
Why can't you like more than one portrayal of Sonic? It isn't like you're some autistic kid who gets mad because his chicken tenders aren't reasonably salted, or the mustard touches the ketchup.
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>>563516715
The "other tech character" is Eggman, already.
Tails' core ability is Sonic + Eggman + Flight (which just adds to the Sonic half). Even comparing him to Iron Man is like comparing Tails to the Flash, he can't be that when Sonic & Eggman themselves are meant to be the absolute pinnacle of that already.
If you'd find it silly to compare Tails to the Flash, the fact of the matter is that the same thing applies with the Iron Man comparison.
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>>563516694
None of those cover what I described. Unleashed day gameplay in 3D mostly plays more like the Sonic 2 special stages, not like a proper platformer. The later Boost games even more so. The Werehog is unironically closer to most previous Sonic games when you aren't fighting, and even then that is also a lot different.
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The series is already getting rid of different portrayals and is trying to be more cohesive now.
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They like the movies, Prime, and the Frontiers boss fight animations
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>2010 erafags
Those barely even existed. At most you get Sticks fans. No one cared about Boom beyond the cartoon, and the main series was so busy nostalgiafagging that it forgot to have anything substantial of its own. Result: 2010s kids like the classic games, not the 2010s games.
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You can't force alphies to suddenly think all of idw is good, at best they're into the recent stuff and some parts of metal virus plus Surge and Kit for the shonen vibe. That tweet about sonic being allowed to be scared and wimpy is getting slandered by THEM. Not windfags, not jpfags, teens with jjk pfps who think sonic in frontiers dlc sounds like a fat deku
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>>A lot of Sonic fans have gotten too old for this series and have developed the worst kinda mentality for what it "should" be. They can't enjoy anything from it because they can't satisfy what "their" Sonic is in their head.
I agree with this. It applies to ALL the nostalgiafags. I also agree with the rest of your post, I had similar thoughts recently
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Wasn't the most recent Sonic game fully focused on SA2 and Shadow nostalgiabait?
Didn't the one before it have a serious tone with dark themes, with the main villains being a humanoid girl and a giant space monster?
I think Sonic Team has been trying to go back to their old style for quite some time already.
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>And along with them, also like Sonic as portrayed there, yes.
The freaks on social media aren't the norm, retard. They're the freaky theater kids we've always had. Most people aren't willing to be so public with their shit aside from women.
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>>563519238
Anon what the fuck are you talking about
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2042000549810467163
>You’re back in the early 2000s. You’ve just played Sonic Adventure 2 for the first time and now this is your entire personality.
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>Those are IDWfags.
Likes are private, we can't tell.
>You know, the type to frequent social media and treat it like it's life?
Just like jap purists?
>Kids are mostly on YouTube and Roblox. Dumbass
Moving goal posts + kids are kids and they will like anything.
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>>563519821
>kids are kids and they will like anything
I hate when people say this stupid bullshit. No. Kids have their own tastes and opinions, and also have trends and sensibilities directly affected by the context they're growing up in.
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>>563519749
People liking SA2 absolutely exist though?
>>563519762
That the average Sonic fan doesn't really care enough to go deeper and play only the japanese version. They see Sonic on SA2, they cool wow cool! and then move on to some other game.
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>You aren't the target audience.
True. I still like the recent Sonic games though, even if they weren't made for me first besides some cheap nostalgia pandering. What does that have to do with my post?
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>Genesis games
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A crossbow (sometimes became a bow-and-arrow or a straight-up pistol in the fanmade online continuations). This was actually Amy's original weapon, predating the Piko Piko Hammer by two years..which, by the way, was stolen from Tails Adventures (the Pikon Hammer is an equippable item Tails can find). Actually makes a bit more sense since Knuckles is already the melee fighter and ST doesn't do much unique with the hammer except those hammerjumps she can do in Adventure. Turning the tarot deck into throwing cards restores the projectile ability she had at least.
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Why are you trying to twist this into something else? Why don't you want to accept that 2010s/idw era kids are reaching that age? The person he's talking to made the slander image and he's saying he agrees with it.
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