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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
/sthg/ #9242 - Spiky with an handgun Edition
==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 22 April 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 10 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 24 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - Summer 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026
==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg
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Douge
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Sonic's cute green wife.
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Elias the Acorn
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Drink corn syrup
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Cream the Rabbit.
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Best Continue jingle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq9k7Eyk_m0
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>nicole, sally and scourge are canon
>i'm not
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>>563744149
Fiona you're the most canon Archie character.
>Sally and Bunnie cameos in Forces comic?
Sega reportedly yelled at the artist for that.
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>>563744454
Huh, so what I take away from this is:
>Tails' love interests are always canon
...Nicole? SCOURGE? Is there SOMETHING you want to tell us?
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the creampedo hours never end...
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NIGGER ASS FAGGOT SITE AND CAPTCHA BLAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHH
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It's actually very cool, you're just a hater
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>>563745230
they don't end with you anyways so it doesnt count
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>>563745358
How dare you insult us jellybeans!
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They’re actively making jokes about character regression btw
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>>563745358
That's what happens when you go long enough without sex or affection from the opposite gender, it makes you unhealthy
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Me.
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round is a curve anon
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>>563746092
I've never thought of it like that, thanks.
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>>563745230
Nicole lowkey would've been a good fit for Tails.
>Nicole was supposed to be another love interest for Sonic in SatAM
>She "dies" late in the reboot run, but she backed up her data in Tails' Skypatrol just in time
>Nicole is in that state when Archie ended, stuck in Tails' computer systems instead of Sally's broken handheld
>We would've had way more Tails and Nicole interactions but we lost them
Yes I know sometime later Flynn said they wanted to ship Nicole and Sally; however, 1) he has a habit of saying things intended to tickle certain 'tisms, and 2) seriously, what was the point of "transferring ownership" of Nicole from Sally to Tails?
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The ship that defined an arc.
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>>563745230
>Tailsurge]is the endgame ship
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post-em
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>>563746289
Classic Tails in the games doesn't have this problem as bad because it is much more strict about being on brand vs Modern's focus on telling a story where they can fuck up something so simple. Classic even showed there is no excuse to not have Tails be Tails in a Superstars cutscene, so clearly it is not a gameplay problem either
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Unironically how they think
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moshi moshi?!?
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> The honey badger's most important tool is neither its claws nor its teeth—it's its skin. It is so thick that it is almost impenetrable to bee stings, and tough enough to resist most bites and shallow punctures.
> The skin is not just thick but loose. If a leopard bites the back of its neck, the honey badger can literally turn around inside its own skin and bite back.
> It also has a remarkable tolerance for pain. As shown in this video, it will go to any lengths for its favourite food—bee larvae and honey.
> It is a fearless creature. Often, it scares away predators not by biting, but simply by refusing to back down.
> It has also developed strong resistance to venom. It can survive venomous bites from snakes like cobras that would kill most animals, recovering where others wouldn't.
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fucking NIGGER! and your bad manners...
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we've come so far...
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>>563750162
my favorite is cream the rabbit and i can survive entirely on porn of her, which will always be created.
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Rouge is pretty damn OP
>matches Knuckles in most aspects, just utilizing kicks instead of punches (because lol upperbody strength)
>she can fly like Tails or Cream but often chooses not to in order to not be totally unfair to other characters
>is pretty intelligent, not the "I can build mechas" kind but the "I can improvise" kind.
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He does play Football tbf
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>>563750572
I know wise guy i said mindbroken, yeah nazis are bad it doesn't mean i would cry like a wimp when i see some germans
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>>563750580
no shit i know but you didn't see that in ages
Also wonder if Sonic will sponsor the World Cup.
Probably not, but they did something with the Olympics so why not
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>>563750782
They're either focusing on Shadouge, or Shitaze is taking her spot as the badass cool girl
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>>563750447
>betterKnuckles
>betterEspio
>betterFang
>betterTails?
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Hey Corocoro! Where's the English version of the Shadow the Hedgehog manga you promised? Surely you're "REEE piracy bad" blog post wasn't just a sneaky jap lie, right? RIGHT?
https://corocoro-news.jp/news/391382/
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ooc
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>>563750162
I mean I'd be okay with Tangle so long as Whisper isn't stapled to her and she gets to interact with other characters
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>>563750162
Tangle is a pointless donut steel OC who only appeals to terminally online, ultraliberal himejoshis. She has no place in Sonic
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Amazing how badly they’re fumbling this
>Sonic and Shadow’s popularity at an all time high due to recent games and movies
>Manga sales are currently very high in the US market
>Takes their sweet ass time with the official translation
I’ll be preordering it the day the listing goes up, if ever
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>sonic gently and lovingly stroking creams head while calling her cool
if amy saw that she'd piss herself in anger.
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>>563751584
Sonic 3d blast ruined the gaming brand potential
Shad05 ruined the communitys image
06 ruined the gaming brand image
Sonic boom ruined the respect Sega has a company
Sonic forces ruined the respect other gaming communities had for the brand
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>>563751551
She's hecking better than all the inferior game females.
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>>563752157
The tan parts of Sonic characters are always skin. I will not believe Evan saying it's fur. The people who work on IDW fucking hate Sonic and Sonic's design philosophies which is why they actively go against it out of spite.
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Preemptively making a fan translation of something that's claimed by the company, that you KNOW is coming in other languages, is painfully annoying to the company. "urf ruf tehy call it FAN translations!" Yeah, and fans wait to make the process smooth. Make your fan translation afterwards instead of forcing them to overlocalize to be different from you. Can't do that? You're more of an attention whore than a fan!
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Honey the Cat!
Amy the Rose!
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>>563751237
ok Chris Hernandez
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ok Yuki Imada
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...Except the "official" translation never happens. And I can say this as we live in an era where manga (and anime) does get dual releases in both Japan and the West. The fact that the Blade of Courage didn't go this route is very telling.
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ABT draws her with fur. Look at how the tiny lines on her arm overlap her glove. They fucking hate Sonic.
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ESL nigger
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>>563752918
You would think a Sonic fan would be happy that Sega is using resources to create nice little side products
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Woofs
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lol eat a dick flynn
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>The fact that the Blade of Courage didn't go this route is very telling.
Either the CoroCoro higher-ups' fault for treating Sonic like some indie series that may or may not be collected later, or Sega not wanting the manga to release concurrently with IDW.
I'm leaning towards the latter come think of it, considering WISE only releases JPN IDW in volumes.
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>Not even my art this time.
You haven't asked for the rent in three years.
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A lot of Blaze artwork has been dropping in my timelines.
Do people really like Blaze or just the idea of Blaze as a character?
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I wish for only the worst things in life to happen to this man.
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They want you to forget Bean’s old comic personality of being a spastic goofball (Archie & IDWs first classic special).
They are completing the transition to the personality that M2 laid out in some old character bio documents, which is uhh… he likes soccer.
And Bark likes snowboarding.
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Mexican fans are calling archie a bad fanfic
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The only thing tomboyish about her is her body
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I like Blaze
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>>563753915
More of a reason to not give a shit about piracy.
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It's about to be 4/20
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>>563749049
Oh my godthis sounds like the beginning of the fucking Metarex saga.
They WOULDN'T, would they?!
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>>563753993
95% of the fanbase is sold on the idea of a character, not just Blaze. You could even go so far as to say fans are sold on the idea of the franchise, and not for what it actually is
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Good to see Classic is still around. And apparently Jenhen too, she's a cool artist
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meh, wake me up when the kukkus get de-vaulted
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>More classicdiapers
Classic Sonic doesn't have to exist, doesn't have a standing audience that cares for it exclusively, classicfags bitched and moaned so Mania existed to prove their point and they fucked off.
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Is Sonic FABOLUS or gay?
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*Brain washes your OC*
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>Classic Sonic doesn't have to exist, doesn't have a standing audience that cares for it exclusively
It does and it does. I'm not one of them but I appreciate Classic and I want it around. It's the closest we can get to the raw version of Sonic. I can't imagine getting angry over that
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For some reason I don't like how toy-like the environments in IDW and its crossovers are. In theory it should fit because Sonic characters look like toys but something about it just feels off when its modern characters
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>Sega pauses IDW's Japanese releases to give Corocoro a turn in their home country
>"THE MANGA. IS NOT. AND WILL NEVER. BE CANON!!"
Why is reality so petty?
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I find it hard to believe some people just straight up hate Classic because that's Sonic in it's truest form imo. But whatever, opinions are opinions
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Did you peel your apple today? Don't eat those residual pesticides please
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>>563754892I was both until like mid-last year, going to be honest.The worst part was actually expecting to be surprised by Sonic, and so far the only thing that's been okay is the Fall Guys clone. Clearly they're cooking up something with main comic, but ngl I'm not really excited for Enerjak/Dr.Finevitus 2.0, since that's clearly who the new guy is supposed to be. No offense to the writers but we already seen them try that with Surge.
Oh well, classic will carry them as always.
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Glad to see jap purists hissing as ever discreetly to Classic Sonic, since they know deep inside it's the only era everyone and their grandpa respects unlike dark age and beyond.
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>>563755915
When you're forced to adhere to the look of/trace 3d models, art quality degrades. It reminds me of a recent Spider-woman ongoing. Everything is so blantantly traced from 3d models.
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>>563756064
Post Mania Sonic is "Classic Sonic", not the 90s Sega Genesis Sonic. It's what people think Sonic was through the lenses of a nostalgic memory. Sonic will never be the spirit of the 90s icon it once was ever again. What we have today is a bland, charmless and plastic-feeling simulacrum of Sonic
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Yeah it's so weird. A lot of these so called Sonic purists seem to prop up stuff like 06 or the Storybook games while disregarding the actual roots of the franchise
Regardless I don't think any of these posters are necessarily JP Purists
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I can't stand journos
They clearly showed Sonic 3 footage, the spaceship, "Robotnik saves the world" line
But not only that MPA-journalist thinks it is from Sonic 4, EVEN Sonic Stadium thinks it comes from Sonic 4
How can they be so stupid
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Metal will outlive Sonic
Metal will indoctrinate Sonic's children to be his loyal slaves
Metal won
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>>563756338
Ok it's still closer to what we got in the 90s than most modern Sonic games. Doesn't make either necessarily better or worse but still.
No I don't think the 2000s games are true to Classic except the Advance games somewhat. That doesn't mean I hate them or anything
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Ok
>these anons
Are you happy now? I don't think I was "doing" anything, I was just typing like I do
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>>563756890
I'm going to give you some advice so if you waste your time in the future it's on you:
If you ask or initiate a conversation with anything that someone who actually consumes Sonic could answer easily, and they can't seem to just answer, then they're purposefully wasting your time.
Have a nice rest of your day.
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No, it's not really closer at all, at least, aesthetics-wise. It's Fisher Price Santiago Sonic. If you'd ask me I think IDW-Frontiers-Sonic is even more of a thematic void and has dilluted the aesthetics of the franchise even further.
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Why jp fags hate good gameplay and quality?
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No I'm pretty sure it's closer, even if only by comparison with most Modern stuff. Presentation issues aren't exclusive to Superstars, plenty of other Sonic games have them
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This is literally just how the hardcore IDW fandom is for some reason. Remember how 2000s fans love to make everything extra shonen with fusions and transformations and grimdark edge? This is the modern version of that. IDW fans prefer relating the characters to real world psychiatric issues.
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We make fun of the toxic masculinity argument but it raises a point:
Windnic does not resonate with the younger audiences. They don't understand the cool inspiring guy who just loves adventure like Sonic. I think older zoomers who played the final stretch of the dark age games are the last people who really like that Sonic. It's no coincidence they made Sonic a dumb teenager with parents in the movies.
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They hate toxic masculinity because they can't understand anything they can't or project onto. They think emotional incontinence is healthy, any form of stoicism is just bottling your emotions up and all cool/inspirational figures must be fake.
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>>563757990
Personally I prefer mob psycho comparisons but Jujutsu has funny memes so
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True. Children with no parents can go fuck themselves and don't deserve main character representation.
In fact if you don't live in middle class suburbia with a mom and dad and dog then you also don't deserve representation.
This "relatability" of Movie Sonic is ironically deeply selective and only applies to a specific group of people. It's a self-defeating ideology.
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Sonic is a dumb teenager in the movies because Iizuka likes ADHD Sonic. See ShTH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsJetNzcQAo
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Shut up nerd
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DRAW ROTOR THE WALRUS lovingly eating up sushi off take-out!
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They actually have a lot in commun why are you pissing yourself like a little retard about this?
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This drawing is disingenuous because it baits for others to give it attention when apparently the artist is supposed to not care about it and just focus on the OCs. If they really didn't care they'd just enjoy without having to make this.
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One of the ten daily posters. I like slapping him around when he acts up but this is getting just sad.
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>>563758731
Let's see
Undervalue his own abilities? Check
Follows someone around like a dog? Check
Low physical strength? Check (if you think Silver is strong you didn't read the 00 game manual)
Doesn't understand jokes/socially awkward? Check
I think they have plenty in common besides having the same powers
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What's the story behind the Heroes outfit? Failed redesign? Why did Prime revisit this idea? What was the point if they're just going to keep using the SA2 version?
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>Follows someone around like a dog?
Blaze follows Silver
>Low physical strength?
It's literally the same as Shadow when they fight. Silver being weak has never been indicated in the games, what part of the manual indicates otherwise?
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>>563760007
Please tell me you genuinely are not a minority Jeet
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>>563759963
Both Shadow and Silver are exhausted because over using their powers, but they have never fought physically. His physical strength is quite literally nowhere near as strong as Shadow or Sonic. He has a weak physical body and that has always been the case
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See >>563760691
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>>563760479
>look at me dodging goal posts left and right because i can't form a counter argument for the 5th time
How about you consider cutting yourself since you let this fictional character get so deep under your skin?
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That's the Prima strategy guide, it's talking about how he's not as strong as his powers(which are stronger than Sonic) and he evenly clashes arms against Shadow in picrel after trying to punch him.
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A Switch 2 listing for a Sonic Frontiers "definitive edition" has been discovered through the French game retailer Sogamely.
The online retailer previously published listings for Sonic Colors Ultimate as early as April 2021, and Sonic Origins under the listing of "Sonic Collection" on May 2021; both games were revealed on that year's video presentation series.
There's also a release date for late June 2026, but that could be tentative.
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Sorry, I don't trust the french.
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>Literally told in the book
>It doesn't count
Iizuka could make a public statement and you morons would still be in denial. *Spit*
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Do you also think Tails have an infinite amount of wrenches stored in his ass?
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>>563761360
But do you kiss the french?
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I notice because the other 90% of the time we're actually trying to stay on topic. The biggest reason someone wouldn't pick up on that is because they're not actually here for Sonic ironically because no normal person would be saying half this crap.
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And? Replace wrench by rings
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All the characters can pull shit out of cyberspace in Frontiers. See Amy with her tarot cards that she can just float in front of her face telekinetically.
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>>563762184
Half the anons here have some sort of trauma.The other half are just retarded.
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Would Honey the Cat be into Sonic's dad?
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>>563762445
Sega approved them to make their own version for Sonic, they have nothing to do with the games so they aren't part of the game canon. This is a guidebook of 06 made for the game Sonic 06. You are just coping my dude
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What we see in the game is that Shadow couldn't beat Silver with his own strength so he was forced to use a chaos emerald. That's the only thing you should learn from their fight
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Making mistakes such as typos. Completely making shit up is not what happens in these types of projects. Everything that was written is based on Sega's official material
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>This is a guidebook of 06 made for the game Sonic 06.
Yes. It exists to give tips to players on how to play the game. All the supplementary bullshit they add to the story that is NOT SUPPORTED BY THE VIDEO GAME can not be trusted. It's not written by anyone at Sega and we know how much Sega doesn't give a shit about people on the outside making different versions of Sonic like you just admitted. Prima is a third-party. Seethe.
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Dude, you're trying to use a hyper literal interpretation of one statement to gaslight us into thinking Silver is weak when we have multiple things that indicate otherwise >>563761048, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>563763578
Maybe we should have a guide that takes everything from the wikis that took everything from the Prima guides so wikis don't have to cite the Prima guides so much. Would that be satisfactory?
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>>563763513
Has there ever been a case where something from a guide or magazine became hard line canon in anything? Not something dumb like Ray's shoes being blue or Luke Skywalker's favorite flavor of yogurt, it should matter.
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You guys are just mad everything points Silver isn't strong physically. Why? He only uses his powers to fight anyways.
Whatever morons
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Shadow himself.
Other than that, I like the Shadow Rifle because it just looks cool. But it's also very powerful gameplay-wise, so it's a bit of a generic answer. Other than that, I like how Shadow uses environmental objects as weapons, because it shows that he'll use whatever's at his disposal to reach his goals. It's not really the case that he's obsessed with or even particularly cares for guns, they're just convenient to him. It's fun when the weapon is huge compared to him too.
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>I like how Shadow uses environmental objects as weapons
Using the environment to your advantage in anything will always be great
>It's fun when the weapon is huge compared to him too.
makes you remember how small these characters are yet how capable they are
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>Has there ever been a case where something from a guide or magazine became hard line canon in anything?
Every time we get concept art
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>>563763958
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Should invest in some hair loss prevention desu. Luckily in 2026 you don't need to get a scalp reduction or even hair plugs if you catch it early.
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Tails says: even a genius has to manage their mental health!
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>>563764419
I didn't run out of argument, you just don't like the arguments I made so it's pointless to argue with someone who refuses to listen
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The guidebook is just the most blatant direct example that shouldn't leave room for argument, yet you refuse to accept it. But if you want more:
>Slowest movement than Sonic and Shadow
>Can't harm Solaris like the others, he is forced to yet again use his powers to retaliate
>Can't spin dash
>Physically drained when he ran out of ESP in 06, rivals and IDW. In IDW it is so bad he has to lay in bed after protecting Sonic from the explosion
It's not like a psychokinesis with a weak body isn't a HUGE TROPE or anything but sure let's pretend the Sonic team doesn't has the most classical cliches now
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>>563765423
Silver was supposed to have a speed upgrade in 06 but it couldn't be coded right. The rest of that is just the nature of his powers and doesn't indicate that he's physically weak. You still haven't disproved any of the instances of him being physically strong and athletic. You're trying to argue he's a stereotypical trope in a series with a cat with fire powers that likes water.
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https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=surge_the_tenrec++s onic_the_hedgehog+
>15 pages of Surge fucking Sonic
>9 pages of Surge fucking Amy
Yes, I accounted for the franchise name as well and checked every page, that's why the number is different than the list. Measure it yourself.
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"Sonic and Amy can't get together because it's a shonen series!"
Like Dragon Ball, where Goku and Chichi get together in the first third of the fucking story?
There are MANY examples of shonen protagonists falling and love and dating, what makes Amy any different? I think some of you just hate Amy.
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I'm sure there is "in character" but with this community there is no consistency of what that entails. Sonic fandom argument almost makes me think they just want a Sonic action figure that does nothing but repeat what he has already said, like in those Dragon Ball games where the intro interactions is just repeating lines from the anime.
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We see Blaze running alongside Sonic, she is physically strong because she is physically strong. We never see that side of Silver, because he isn't and because Sega isn't subtle about what their characters are. But you do you gaylord
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>When Sonic wants to be her friend
>when Surge is mind controlled to hate him
>when Sonic holds his hand out to her every time they meet
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I'm personally not obsessed with needing Sonic and Amy to be an actual couple and actually prefer their love chase dynamic way more since it creates fun banter between the two and it fits with Sonic being free spirit adventurer
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We know Toriyama was ready to end dragonball after Frieza but even before that he once threatened to end it earlier if he wasn't allowed to age up Goku and after Piccolo jr. Gohan is the de facto main character from that point on. Goku and Chichi are not the exception, in fact they prove the rule.
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They’re trying to prove Japan cares about Sonic more than the U.S. by comparing per-capita spending on a single game’s first week (Frontiers) vs. monthly comic sales — ignoring that games cost more, release less often, and that U.S. game sales would dwarf these numbers. The math is rigged to make Japan look superior.
they’re either being deliberately dishonest (cherry-picking data to force a conclusion) or they genuinely don’t understand why comparing first-week game sales in one country to monthly comic sales in another — then scaling by population and price — proves nothing about which country “cares” more about Sonic as a whole. It’s just bad logic.
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>Robotnik saves the world
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Who fucking cares. Japan only cares about games if they are either Dragon Quest or moe shit. There's a reason why most people in Japan don't even own a console any more and just play Gacha shit on their phone.
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>Using Red Ranger manga as an example
The entire point of Red Ranger is to break every shonen and isekai trope. Instead of being oblivious it's revealed that he was pretending to be oblivious so that he could be the symbolic hero character. That manga is a deconstruction of shonen tropes. The only reason he gets together with her is because the manga is actively trying to break the rules by establishing that it isn't human to be oblivious or aloof. Pay better attention.
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No she's trying to point out that comics aren't as popular in america as video games are in japan. Archie fags and idw fags keep saying the west should take over Sonic and that the FF should come back because Sonic isn't as popular in Japan. Everyone already knows that the games don't sell as well in japan and someone like krack prob knows that too, but they still sell better than any american comic. If archiefags or idwfags say popularity should be the main factor in deciding who controls the series then why do they push media that sells worse?
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True, but 4 looks like it's only gonna be loosely gonna be based of CD at best. I would rather that 4 focus on making the best Metal Story than pretend that it's gonna be a fateful adaptation.
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You’re shifting the goalposts. The original claim was “nobody in Japan cares” — comics vs. games proves that’s false. But now you’re arguing popularity should decide control of the franchise, which is a dumb standard. And comparing comic sales (niche) to game sales (primary medium) is just dishonest.
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It always made sense. Every time Krack is called out it's the same vapid crap. "She's just stupid" "She's obsessed with the black rat" "She is arguing with twitter trannies".
It's so cyclical. Her name pops up on a daily basis here whether she's present or not. You have people utterly obsessed with making sure as many people know how "evil" she is as possible, or trying to roleplay as her to make her look bad or weird. It's been really good PR for her. The people who absolutely despise her just happen to be insane.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIgq9spZnhk
UUU, Tangle, I’m sad and gay
Everyday-yeah-y-yeah
UUU, Tangle, I’m sad and gay
Everyday
[Verse 1]
Teardrops ever fall beneath my eyes
I’ll be crying on every page
Even as the day turns into night
This comic’s so damn shitty
[Pre-Chorus]
But I’ll always vegitate
There’s no way to lose weight
[Chorus]
UUU, Tangle, I’m sad and gay, everyday (yeah yeah)
I wanna tell you I’m sad and gay, everyday (yeah yeah)
I wanna cry on you night and day
[Verse 2]
Mimic pissed in my fries and made me cry
Even though I still ate the fries
You wonder how I have the tears to whine, whine, whine
Well there’s a hose stuck up my behind
[Pre-Chorus]
But I’ll (boo hoo hoo) vegitate, la-dee-dah
There’s no way to lose weight
To lose weight
[Chorus]
UUU, Tangle, I’m sad and gay, everyday (yeah yeah)
I wanna tell you I’m sad and gay, everyday (yeah yeah)
I wanna cry on you night and day (UUU TANGLE UUU TANGLE PLEASE)
[Bridge]
Well, I’ll, I’ll vegitate
There’s no way to lose weight, yeah
[Verse 3]
I can see the fatigue in your eyes
UUU I’m gay, please be my wife
You are scrubbing my folds in the sun
But I will still cry, hun
Need no reason
[Pre-Chorus]
But I’ll (boo hoo hoo) vegitate
There’s no way to lose weight, oh
[Chorus]
UUU, Tangle, I’m sad and gay, every everyday
I wanna tell you I’m sad and gay
(I wanna tell you I’m super goddamn gay)
I wanna cry on you night and day
(Every day, don’t go away)
Ah-bloo-bloo boo hoo hoo hoo hoo UUU
UUU, Tangle, I’m sad and gay
I wanna tell you I’m sad and gay
I wanna cry on you night and day
UUU, Tangle, I’m sad and gay
I wanna tell you I’m sad and gay
I wanna cry on you night and day
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I wonder why, in-universe wise, because apparently Metal Sonic upgraded himself in Heroes and it wasn't something Eggman did and lost control of.
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>>563757862
They'd better not make 'em long lost brother 'n sister. Although I suppose I could make it work...
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She gives you a hug!
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She now has a shiny soapy brain
Also she's dead. Way to go.
Next time don't use the scourer.
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>>563772074
Her dad's right there.
It was the Chao all along!
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Super Amy is happening soon. Thank Fowler.
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No,but I ate a chicken pasty-type thing.
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>>563771715
Red Sally's a fox like her dad and probably herself in SatAM. She just lost her tail.
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>I wonder why, in-universe wise
Obviously because Shadow was considered the ultimate lifeform and Metal wanted to incorporate some of that into his design to improve himself.
Also we need Neo Metal back, Even if it's only as a side kick to another villain who isn't Eggman.
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WTF was Hurst thinking that this pitch would be approved lol.
Even without the alleged Penders sabotage there was no way it hell he was seeing vision pull through without serious meddling.
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>>563772767
Sparkle should've been from his toof.
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Ben Hurst's pitch for Nicole sounds like good set up for Shadow
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Yes, Sonic exists to be a timeless franchise and characters should always stick to their core traits. Amy always has to wear passion on her sleeves. Sonamy is not an endgame but a nuance game of cat and mouse.
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Trump is a slave to Israel, we all lost
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>>563773118I used to work in one of those lol. It fucking sucked.
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>/pol/fags realising they were actually supporting the Jews the whole time
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>>563767396
Sure, Sonic dominates all porn but in terms of wholesome content Surgamy easily has it beat.
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>>563773098
why does vanilla like this
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Nah, I just hate leftists, whiney little bitches simple as.
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Yeah, Israel runs the media literacy.
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Sonurge is cute
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Timeless dynamic fits more than whatever the fuck they got going on right now. Even so, JP management need to realize passion Amy is Amy and the SoA lore team need to be communicated that through them or vice versa whatever is going on.
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>>563749232
I get a really huge boner when I see them as in I really want to fuck them
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>in terms of wholesome content Surgamy easily has it beat.
Lesbians aren't wholesome.
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Because the Classic comics aren't ass.
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He's been like that ever since Jared Kushner married his daughter.
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Based and me too.
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>>563773098
Blaze looking like Master Tigress
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I cant tell if you guys like the classic sonic comic because of the art or because it has no story or character development in it.
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The problem with modern Sonic comics is that they don't feel like they are about Sonic games, but the classic Sonic comics are ALL about Sonic games. The modern Sonic comics are about OCs and their emotions. The game characters don't act like themselves. The only game that even resembles the world of IDW is Sonic Forces, I hate Sonic forces. Do you like Sonic Forces? Does anyone out there actually enjoy that this comic is permanently synergized to Forces? Why can't it look like something cool like SA2 or at LEAST Frontiers.
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I don't think I spotted a single SSS on that Sega fanart compilation.
Can't wait for this trio to interact in movie 4.
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Sticks (my weiner in) the Badger
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Not him.
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Team Sonic
Team Dark
Team Rose
Team Chaotix
Team Mighty
Team Metal
Team Hooligans
Team Witchcarters
Team Babylon Rogues
Team Sol
Team Future
Team Avatar
Team Diamond Cutters
Team Surge
Team Clutch
Team Eggman
Team Deadly Six
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>>563774784
So sorry Anon but...he died being a herounlike Sonic who went out like a little bitch.
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>Ready to doubletime Amy
Lucky gal.
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I mean the closest we've come to that so far is that Merlina stole Sonic before a date. But generally no, I mean like actually going on a date.
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I prefer character development and innovation instead of stagnation. I’m not a brandfag. I know it goes into one ear and goes out of the other for many people but it’s simply pointless and deceptive for a romance between Sonic and Amy to be teased without those teases actually materializing into something substantial. That’s garbage and lazy storytelling
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Have your preferences but that kinda mentality lands better with supplementary material. But all works need to respect Amy wearing passion on her sleeves. None of this subtle crap. Amy doesn't shy from heart.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_video_games
Take your pick.
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>>563776687
The fuck you want me to say?
"Boost is a detriment to the franchise, results in boring, automated levels that offer little engagement outside of "Hold X" and Sonic Team's insistence to continue using it - or perhaps cowardice to try literally anything else - is infinitely infuriating"?
Because it's been said a million times before.
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I say this and do this.
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>>563777501
They kinda have a point though. The games in the series vary so wildly in content and quality that the only real constant is the characters. If you don't like the characters as they are, why are you even here?
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A character still needs to be recognizable when they develop. Like the other anon said, character development doesn't mean they become a different person. The point is about improvement or devolvement. They either get better or worse, but are still the same character at the end of the day.
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I think it was the blue arms actually...
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>sonic would be better if he slowed down and showed his emotions more and cried and was more vulnerable
>silver would be better if he was a sweet socially awkward soft boy
>shadow would be better if he smiled more and told all of his friends that he loved them
>tails would be better if he was a platinum gigachad who fucked a hundred women
>amy would be better if she stopped loving sonic
Yeah I'm thinking Comic fans hate the characters
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Some of the Frontiers cyberspace stages were half way to somewhat beginning to solve this by, effectively, reusing level layouts from previous games (i.e., Sky Rail, Green Forest, with more open movement with multiple paths to take).
All they need to do moving forward is giving the player more direct control (starting with a better turning circle and preferably re-adding a forward dash in place of a homing attack when no enemies are locked on) and let the player proveed with their own moveset (running, spindash) instead of overly relying on automated boost pads or the Boost itself.
Hell, they even added the spindash / dropdash into Frontiers and it works far better than Boost because you still have movement control while using it, whereas Boost by design keeps you effectively locked to the rollercoaster. It's to the point that adding the spin/dropdash single handedly improved the enjoyment of the entire game.
So the answer is "delete boost" fuck you
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>If Tails learning to not be scared of threats and enemies isn’t changing the character
It isn't because it's part of his arc. He wants to be brave and cool like Sonic. But Sonic being a lovey dovey romantic isn't Sonic's arc. He doesn't have one since that's not his character. Sonamy's point is about Amy improving herself to reach Sonic's level.
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