>What is BDO Black Desert Online is a Korean MMORPG developed by Pearl Abyss. It features non-tab targeted action combat, RNG, guaranteed upgrade mechanics after you spend 4 times the item's worth and then they give the item away for free, more RNG, brand new fun pvp modes trust me, open world pvp and bullying/getting bullied, coomer outfits like slutkinis, shondoms, real rootin' tootin' American cowgirls, monkeys, infinite grinding in a circle or a private circle, +5% AP caps, RNG and a pseudo sandbox experience that doesn't matter now that marni exists.
>>2436095 I never read the >What is BDO part of the OP before, didn't realize it was written by anon and not by developers or google. Very funny >guaranteed upgrade mechanics after you spend 4 times the item's worth and then they give the item away for free
Newb here, the beginning of the game is a little odd in places but having fun so far. While I'm avoiding using anything until I have an idea what it's about, is there any other early game stuff to keep in mind?
Also, what does it mean if a class is on 'rotation' when you create a character? The one I picked had that over the box but I can't quite cotton to it's meaning
>>2436863 >Also, what does it mean if a class is on 'rotation' when you create a character? The one I picked had that over the box but I can't quite cotton to it's meaning The tag system lets you pick two characters who then share combat XP and (optionally) gear. The gear duping system is typically pretty expensive but its only 1 silver for a class that's on rotation.
>>2436863 I'm pretty new myself but just in case you didn't find out yet, 2 basic things you should know:
If you like questing, be sure to set the slider to "Show all quests" in the questlog! The game has thousands of quests, but they are invisible otherwise!
There are about 20 different group chats! You can change the group chat in the chat menu. As a new player you probably also started in the "Lunar Inn" Chat, which can be pretty obnoxious sometimes...just so you know, there are alternatives.
>>2440802 Is a Tamer something like a hunter? Where you get a pet? There are some charas running around with giant white foxes(?), those are cool. I always thought those were tamers, but the foxes look nothing like that....thing....?
>>2442085 tamer is a melee assassin. the pet comes from a skill you get at level 20. the white foxes are just the idle animation for maegu class, her fake pet is super confusing to new players
>>2442522 the highest spot i can grind is orbita atm, i'm surprised at how much money i'm making there. i'm starting to hit the real brutal grind wall but even still i'm always surprised at how much silver and mats i end up with by the end of each week just from weeklies and all the free stuff from events. wasn't ever concerned with hitting hardcap gear but these days it feels really really easy to gear up, and i barely grind.
>>2443068 You can either sell the ore on the marketplace, process it into ingots and sell those on the marketplace, or get workers to craft ingots into trade crates in Valencia and then sell those in LoML. Trade crates are the best long term by a small margin as long as you invest in your trading lifeskill, selling Ingots on the marketplace is next best but needs an active VP and a bit more management, then selling the ore is by far the worst. Processing is a short-term AFK activity, and really you want the maid outfit to make it not tedious, then extra weight if you want to leave it for ages, but that last bit isn't super necessary if you do it whilst you're at your computer doing other things.
>>2443068 processing mats for sale isn't worth it for you unless you're already seriously invested or on the path to becoming so just sell it raw unless you're really going devote a significant amount of your playtime to being lifeskills autist
>>2443143 well it takes seconds to throw it on the market so I guess, but yeah he should probably get better nodes for it if thats the way he's going (or just ignore it all)
>>2443155 It only takes seconds for each, doing it for multiple items it will keep adding up And that is assuming you're doing it efficiently everytime you visit the marketplace for other things and you dont have a 100k+ stockpile of shit cause it will just get worse and worse the more you get
>>2444060 You get everything you need, dont graduate before you have it and just do the weekly You want the failstacks, the desperate crystal of origins, caphrass and sharps for sure
Going back to regular farming after an event is always painful... >>2446182 Damn I hope you get it without too much pain! I could never stand gathering for more than a few minutes, it quickly becomes tedious for me.
I've only done a few hours of Orbita but I think I prefer Nymphamaré. One of the features of Aetherion that I disliked was how many effects were almost always happening on the screen, to the point where it sometimes became quite difficult to see what was going on. That's not the case in Nymphamaré, but now Orbita is quite busy again. Anyway, post 'em. >>2446341 There's a screenshot in the Global Lab patch notes which shows what I assume to be the treasure attached to the tent.
>>2451349 Anything after Mediah is more or less optional, which then you can get future season characters to take a powerleveling route instead for most of the same rewards.
>>2451693 At one point getting through a bunch of them would grant quest-specific accessories that could give season characters a power boost and some other armor, but now they can equip any Tuvala gear. Mind that some of the crystals you get from the questlines can be combined into a super crystal that is still relevant today, so there is some incentive but at some point you'll probably make a lot of money an hour from grindan anyway or get enough excess season seals to make them.
Questlines do have some practical use in obtaining knowledge to increase max energy, or getting to know the lay of the land somewhat. While the Magnus rewards barely need any progress into the questline now, a permanent +1 AP/DP and two crystal slots you can't anywhere else are rewards from the first half of Land of the Morning Light (before Seoul). Otherwise, not a formal 'questline' but the Bartali Log has a lot of permanent AP/DP rewards and more from doing assorted tasks.
>>2451705 No, Celestial Horns can be used as-is. There's a Celestial upgrade item for people with the original horn can grind for.
>>2451941 Personally I haven't done that, it relies on repeating a daily quest that would take you a month if below Artisan 1 Training, half a month otherwise, and all the ingredients to keep doing it. The calling horn is nice but you're best finding it as part of a bundle or through an event.
>>2452829 more like too retarded to realize the danger it was in.....
PA has an incredible talent for epically subverting their own efforts. They can masterfully set the stage for what could become an epic low fantasy questline and then the moment it actually starts in comes Faggoty McFaggotface, comic relief staple #783, here to ruin it all...
>>2452918 yeah really strange event, especially as it came directly after that completely OP farming event... from my 30 mysterious ores 2 from mining, 28 from mobdrops
I do not understand PA's mindset with respect to Girin, Bongwang, and Haetae's Tear, and now the same has happened to Reforge Stones. They were nigh unobtainable when first introduced, now you can get lots of them from just casually playing so on the marketplace all the items are minlisted with no reason for anyone to buy any, since there's no alternate use! Not even heating for Magical Shards or grinding for Black Stone Powder!
>be me >absolute trashcan in PvP >event that gives Lookin' Frosh for 1 ranked win >set gear/crystals for full tank >go in >be trashcan in PvP >get carried >get outfit >leave Solare and never touch it again Cya later nerds.
>>2455282 hash is an honest and balanced class at this point and PA needs to make more of these gapless SA iframe throw-skills-until-enemy-fall-over classes who sometimes even have grabs more like him. i pray i get a hash on the other team instead of my own because i know we can punish his mistakes and bad plays and that he can't casually shrug off any attempt at peeling while doing a full combo when one of my teammates or i get put on the ground. there are way too many classes that are just not interactive at all and hash is not one of them
This game has the most impenetrable pvp I've ever seen, you have to have exhaustive knowledge of every single class' movesets just to not get raped in 12 seconds along with somehow understanding how to walk the dinosaur on your own class (esoteric knowledge), and that's at absolute trench tier the absolute floor of participation.
>>2455413 It may seem that way but knowing other classes movesets is very high tier knowledge All you need to do learn is how to do protected movement and protected combos to get started, what I did was just use those at lower grindspots even though they suck for damage it helps build muscle memory and performing them seamlessly
>>2455413 you really don't, just be protected when people are attacking you and hit them back when your protection runs out. if they are still not cc'd then move away and you get to do it all again
>>2455413 Learning to be decently competent at bdo pvp requires a shit ton of reading and research and watching others play the game to get an idea of how you should play. Actually going to battle arena and practicing and getting used to things like desync and ping and class diffs fast tracks you to being better but most people refuse
>>2455445 thats true if you want to be smelly irl- i mean "good at pvp" but anon is speaking as if you need to know that shit to have fun in pvp at all, which is untrue
>>2455661 Entirely depends on the class you play. You're not going to have fun being a shitter on awakening ranger or awakening maehwa but you can probably have a lot of fun on scholar as a shitter.
Does anyone have a good guide for the platform jumper puzzles in Drieghan Sherekhan Necropolis? Or maybe even care to explain them here....? I could hardly find anything in google. A reddit comment mentioned there being 4 and you have to complete them in the right order and that unlocks a quest?
I've found 3 so far, but there is no black mist to interact with at the end (but there is an invisible object block), so I must be missing the first? Or do I need a quest beforehand?
>>2463535 Massive recovery unless PA decides to fix gathering It’s been a straight up nerf to sharps and the meme events are also over so supply is gonna dry up especially when the mini game event ends
HOLY SHIT DEM GIBS >>2463092 15 saber >>2463535 enchanting your vells will keep them as 5mil, and that's hc endgame with a 0.1% but also depending on weekly boses, long path nontheless
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>>2464815 It's got a lot going for it, best in the genre in some regards (worst in the genre in others.) But it is a product of gook mental illness and not for the faint of heart.
Is the radiant start box that's in every guide still a thing? I hit level 60 on my seasonal character on a fresh account and I can't find it anywhere. Also does anyone have a mentor code for EU?
>>2465812 Most of the catchup mechanics aren't permanent. They are moved around in new events every time, I think currently they are placed in Olvia Academy rewards, at least most of them and some are better than what you get from that radiant box.
>Also does anyone have a mentor code for EU? Sure, I can post a few. Last time anons dropped the game after the stage 3, let's see how it will go this time. 1B345CB669054A50 1B345CC115C94B71 1B345D0945454A22
>>2466184 I just received my final stage rewards but it didn't occur to me to use one of your guys' codes...so it went to some rando from the first guild I joined (and already quit)
>>2466184 Don't make me feel bad for my mentor >.< There's no time limit to the mentor thingy tho is there? So eventually the story-quest will force you to move beyond the Tuvala? Or is it all doable in Tuvala up to the endgame grinding zones?
>>2466980 >There's no time limit to the mentor thingy tho is there? July 9th The main story quests mostly avoid forcing you to fight a lot of the local mobs and have incredibly undertuned bosses, I think if you cleared Olvia Academy stuff just fine you'll be good for 90% of the story.
>>2467027 mmmkay every time I seriously start to plan graduating from season I get a headache after 5min of watching some "guide" consisting of a streamer chaotically clicking through his 5gb excel table while screaming into his mic why his excel table is better than that other guys excel table and my brain goes screw that, tuvala is still fun
>>2467972 If you've completed your season pass then you can graduate. You can always make another season character if you want those benefits e.g. servers with no PvP.
>>2467972 I delayed graduating for weeks and in hindsight it was totally pointless Especially since raising up a tagged alt is a lot of fun and you can't do that with season chara We have enough recent new people here where you can just ask questions about post-graduation instead of trying to get guidance from streamers Mentee rewards shouldn't be ignored, especially since it's just basic gear progression. No weird humiliation ritual or grind for its own sake.
>>2468128 The only thing that's limited is the triple pack and the premium pack, and of those the triple pack is only 10% off. If you have plenty of disposable income then go wild, but I typically wait either for a sale or for them to give out a discount coupon. It's a shame that this didn't exist when they last gave out discount coupons since I definitely would have bought rather than letting it expire.
>>2469044 That's the main reason, but I only connect when I want to transport and sell my crates, which I only do once every few months with the assistance of a Value Pack.
>>2469044 Not required for fishes anymore The only cities you need to connect for long distance trading is Valencia with Yukjo/Bukpo and that doesnt cost that much CP if you use the right path
Only people who are deep into trading autism for ranks would have other cities connected and most likely not at all times just during turn ins
I love seeing mushroom circles in games. I think if a dev took the time to place a circle of mushrooms it's a sign that he really cared about the world he was helping build and it makes me smile...
WoW had a secret mushroom circle far out away from the questzones, almost at the edge of the world and every night at a certain time a bunch of fairydragons and will'o'wisps would gather and fly around in a circle and a bunch of deer and other forest animals would gather to watch....
Since people are helpful to new and returning players, here's my current gear. I wanna go the Kharazad route because I like gambling and slow but steady progression. This is my plan for the foreseeable future: TET belt (from the Tuvala exchange, +3 AP) > TRI ring (+2 AP from replacing the Capotia one) > TRI neck (same sheet AP, but I get another crystal slot) > TET awakening weapon > PEN neck and then TET ring. Does it sound good? Or should I get some DP somewhere since I'm running double distos? When do I have to worry about mh sov? I also don't know where to fit Kabuas in all of this since they're pretty expensive now, I think I'd rather farm them myself whenever I get to Yzrahid.
>>2466980 I didn't mean it in a way to inflict guilt on you. It's a normal thing for veterans in this game. The early and mid game is harsh on new players so it's expected that most will drop the game. I'm in a guild where it's welcoming new and returning players, and basically it's a core of 5 active people and 50 that come and go, usually lasting 2-3 weeks. That's where the freebies end and people realize they have to play the game.
>>2470876 Even if you prefer the RNG route, buy a TET debo neck at least to convert to PEN khara. That thing is super cheap The rest is fine, whatever makes you progress at that stage is okay you are like a baby at that gear score. For DP just get a couple DUO fallen gods when you're grinding at around hexe level and see if you're struggle. You can stay at 420 DP, full DUO FG, for like 200 hours if you want.
>>2470876 The cheapest route to upgrade accessories is to save up and buy TET Debos to convert to PEN Khara, then save up some more and buy PEN Debos to convert to NOV Khara. If you want to gamble but also make progress you could buy the TETs and upgrade from there? Also check out this for the cost calculations already done for you https://bdoworkshop.com/gear-upgrade-path >>2471116 Loot scrolls is generally the go-to unless you need Valks Cry or have loads of loot scrolls already.
>>2470876 If I started playing now with the experience I got reaching almost hardcap, my plan would be this: 1. Take that Kharazad belt from the Dec tuvala accessory, because it's 50% free due to the olvia academy freebie Dawns, and the rest of the dawns are really cheap lately. 2. Do the Jetina rings because it's a good early game cheap grind and their stats are solid. Later on you can melt them for Dawns, but only do that when you already have replacements for them and/or the Dawn price spikes up. 3. Buy temporary TET Deborekas which you will keep until you can later save 120-180b and buy PEN Deboreka, selling the TET back at the market. It may sound a lot, but with current age silver/h, freebies and weekly chores, it will come way sooner than you expect. Do NOT exchange TET Deborekas for PEN Kharazad, on average it will cost you almost double to reach the same level as straight up saving and buying a PEN Deboreka. 4. All the crons you get from events, throw them on your Sovereign weapons. There is no other alternative to level these, so you can't go wrong with cron taps at them. 5. All the J's hammer you will soon get from events and balls, throw them on your Silent armor you got from the DEC tuvala armor. If they give us boxes to choose a hammer of your preference, pick a hammer for your Kharazad, which you will use when you get your first PEN Deboreka (necklace probably) and use these hammers for free DEC Kharazad necklace taps. Kharazads have higher cron costs, higher chances to succeed, and lower pities to fill, so it's best to push these first with the free hammers. 6. If you grind more than 1 hour per day, consider trying lifeskills. Gathering is way lower APM than grinding, can go afk whenever, and the entry point to start getting decent money is very low, 4 free Floramos and 2 TRI Preonnes along with the freebie TRI clothes you get from Olvia academy, can bring decent money per hour, and of course if you like it, you invest more into life gear.
>>2471136 The tooltip on the Valks Cry could be in korean for what it's worth cause I don't understand any of it, so it's hard to tell whether I need it. But it's cheap, so I'll just throw in some of those.
Is the Advice of Valks 50 any good or is that like something outdated? I noticed there is always one or two Advices in the event rewards you could buy for [lot of event currency] so I imagined that was something important to have?
>>2470876 >>2471232 cont. 7. Since caphras prices started dropping, you could grind to make your own higher tier armors and tap them to DUO. Not to mention that going to the spots that drop the flame will be a change of pace and routine, so why not. Olvia academy coins already give you 50 of the flame pities needed to craft them. When you feel like you need more DP, you could sell DUO and buy TRI. Similarly when you approach Edania, you can sell the TRI and get 1-2 TET armors, giving you access to Edana armors. 8. Don't bother with the DEC Tuvala weapon. PEN blackstars sit on the market and are usually cheaper than tapping the DEC tuvala mats + crons. Don't tap PEN blackstars either unless it's from freebie blackstar hammers.
>>2471288 You can use Valk's Cry to boost an enhancement stack by 1 per Cry, up to a max of 10 per stack. Effectively they are very valuable when you're using 300 stacks, but not when you're sub-100fs. You'll need them later but not too many right now, probably. +50 Advice of Valks isn't worth spending, it's far too expensive. If you do your world bosses you'll get more +30, +40 and +50 than you will ever use, I personally have 250 +50s.
>>2471072 >>2471136 >>2471232 >>2471331 It's that bad, huh? It just feels so fucking sovlless to me to buy gear that you're supposed to carry to the endgame off the market...
>>2471367 You don't have to, I bought TET Debos and enhanced from there, now I have three DEC, one NOV and two OCT. Yeah I've spent more on Crons but in the end all paths lead to higher gearscore.
>>2471381 Alright I'll definitely buy that TET debo neck for now and see how I'll feel about the whole ordeal. I stopped playing right before Kharazads were announced IIRC so it feels very weird how PA has yet to do anything to fix this discrepancy in enhancing.
>>2474042 i wouldn't mind that if they filled the gap between seasons with huge rbf events and maybe even brought hardcore server back with all classes. it was fun
Pics looked good but when i tried it on and zoomed on the ass, i could see the inside of my character and not in a good way. Shits broken, it doesn't cover properly and textures are missing.
Just hit 61 on my seraph. Do I choose the awakening or the mainhand pen blackstar weapon? Do I then take the sub-weapon or the weapon I didn't choose as my tet blackstar?
Sorry for the newb question, but I just wanna make sure I've got this right in my head:
Using Patrigio's Pocket Watch levels a non-seasonal character up to 61, but since the character isn't seasonal they don't get all the free gear and buffs and such. Does the instant boost to 61 kind of make it worthwhile to create a different character, even if gearing and leveling skills becomes more a of effort? I've currently only got the one seasonal character
>>2475917 You can buy Tuvala gear from Blacksmiths these days and enhance that out of season, but you could instead get Narchillan gear which is slightly lower stats but doesn't require enhancing, and you can exchange the weapons for another class at will. As long as you've done the main quest up to and including Mediah, you can do the simplified questline on other characters and get those rewards regardless of Season status. Finally, having lots of characters above level 60 gives you Combat Fame which will in turn increase your daily silver.
>>2475915 Weapon is a placeholder to put a garmoth heart in for full lifeskill crystals. Haven't hit mobs on shai since she was a seasonal about 3 years ago. Main has 395ap >>2475972 thanks!
>>2475917 >Patrigio's Pocket Watch it's kind of a scam since it doesn't give skill points, you're left with a very gimped Lv61 (which isn't hard to reach via tagging anyway) Probably its best use is for making a boss alt
I was doing some gathering for the new treasure when I ran out of energy and energy pots, so I wanted to log on my alts starting from my awakening Drak when I found out that all of my skills were reset... Fine I thought, but then I go to the awakening tab and everything is greyed out. I can't unlock any further skills other than the ones in the picture. I can't even C swap. What gives?
>>2475869 Wow congratulations, that must be a seriously fast time to get it! Where did you go for each? I typically can't stand gathering but whilst the double minigame event is on I kinda want to do a bit
>>2475923 >>2475949 >>2476146 Thanks very much for the advice; I'll not rush out to use it, but I may give it a try once I've got a better handle on what I'm doing overall
>>2476547 Lumbering: Caphras trees(slower than other options for the treasure piece but i make good crates with the timber) Mining: Pilgrim's Haven. The only real option Sapping: Mix of Ash and Thuja trees as they're alchemy bottlenecks Tanning: Navarne Steppe as i had 200 Atanis Element so this finished off a mana pot. If you have no Atanis and aren't close to making a pot, go Lizards over near Glish instead. Butchering: Any Red Meat. Your choice of Wolves, Foxes, Deer, or Sheep Hoe Gathering: I did Behr herbs, but i don't need or chase exp. If you want more gathering levels you should do Seed plants instead. There's video guides that show the particular spots for them, but i think they are Kisleev Crag, Orc Camp, Heidel River, and Olvia.
If you have a Splendid or Shining Alchemy Stone of life then you should unlock the crystal slots from a Fiery awakening weapon, that would be another 30 mastery and 14% exp.
>>2477004 Thanks a bunch. I was thinking of Snowfield Cedar for Lumbering, I'm always short of that. I was also thinking about collecting the blood that I need for Alchemy but Ash Sap is also a good shout. I'm only Mastery 9 gathering but I don't really care about power levelling, so I'll probably to to Behr for herbs too.
all I wanted to do was goof around and do some quests but now I have to reach 700gs until July 9th....
I just lost more than half of all my crons getting a stupid artina sol to V and it has like almost the same stats my tuvala V had......am I doing this right?
easy game, not enough siege wars, not enough real pvp and just full of baby gears. 10v1 me scrubs or just talk about drinking each others piss. pedosimps.
>>2479515 Blue Squadron gets fired then kicked from partner program over nothing, but this fatso can call people cottonhands turboniggers in the game voice chat and he still gets to shoutcast?
>>2476170 >>2480329 Some time ago they changed addons and reset every character to a default state, have you tried switching back and forth to succ/awak?
>>2482304 don't snap that pretty blade in half when getting up!
I still haven't figured out the mystery behind the Nazca Space Elevators......found an ancient post in the lost archives of teh interwebz saying these are remnants from an old Heidelbergball Event.....?
Realistically, how much better is CC5 vs CC4? The difference between auto-using 30 items vs 20 kind of escapes me. How do you even reach 20 items that you'd want to have active all the time?
>>2484388 Not by much tbdesu, they buffed CC4 a while ago so you can run pretty much anything you need unless you have some crazy 2023 elixir rotation. I'm able to have all of my grind buffs with 4 unless I'm retarded and missing something
>>2484678 kisleev seed rotation if you're okay with clicking 200 times per minute
less exp but more comfy and similar silver would be timbering anything but caphras trees or snowfield cedar trees are best money (and most cancerous rotations)
i have 50b raw silver and i honestly have no idea what to do with it. i guess this is the point where i start brute force tapping everything to nov, dumping all of my silver into vendor crons, and now i have to actually grind mobs to progress. is that about right? i got most this through pure luck from coupons and events. when am i supposed to upgrade my alch stone?
>>2484838 i 3 tapped the offhand, my luck continues, now what? belt? i have 37 bil left. i think i should get a garmoth heart for the mainhand but i don't know.
Now that I've graduated the season I've picked up my dec tuvala quests and the tet to pen boss armour quest from Jetina. Do I funnel everything into the Dec tuvala quest before I focus on getting the last boss piece to pen?
>>2486947 It's more that the Jetina PEN quests get more expensive the more of them you do, so the first is definitely worth doing but the last perhaps not. There's costs shown here https://garmoth.com/guides/post/jetinas-guaranteed-pen-boss-gear
It's pretty funny going through the early-game cutscenes as a Guardian, because it's pretty clear the camera expects you to be a head or so lower when it zooms over your your character. Still, I won't complain of a close-up of boobs
I enhanced some of my stuff and finally graduated from Honglim to Hexe. It was my first time ever to an Elvia spot and I was listening hitech psytrance when Gigagord spawned with its trippy visuals. It was unironically so fucking kino I didn't think PvE in this game could actually be fun. I'm finally having some tangible gains, too.
>>2487540 Oh, I see. Well, I'm on my first character over all so I don't know how fast I'm actually going to make an alt/get an alt to that point where I'd take on a 2nd Jetina quest.
>>2488397 Not gonna lie bro that link looks sketchy as fuck, but apparently iqon is some optimization service that even streamers advertise? I'm gonna choose to trust my brothers at 4channel dot com, they wouldn't do me like that.
Choice, a BDO streamer, commissioned a developer to make the loot tracker program. You can check out his stream and ask him about it, he loves to show it off.
>>2488770 doesn't that guy date some chick who frequently viewbots the category destroying any integrity streaming this game might have to begin with which is probably a bad thing considering how much PA personally cares about streamers
>>2488914 It's being discussed in the thread, so clearly you're wrong >>2488936 Yeah I've popped into her stream once or twice and it's rubbish, far worse than most smaller streamers. No idea if she's viewbotting for certain but her viewercount can't be from the quality of her stream.
All this talk of guilds made me reflect that this game, despite being an MMO, really is mostly solo play. It's not really a problem, it's good fun, but the most interaction I have with others is glancing at the Guild/World chat as I'm moving from one area to the other
>>2470876 Gainz after a few days. I think I'm gonna make a fallen god helmet next since I already have half of the embers anyway, and also my FG gets shredded in like 1s during night time at Hexe so I have to waste time iframing instead of unga bungaing. After that I should be good for Yzrahid and am I reading this right? I'm supposed to live there until fucking 1400 AP?
>>2491747 supposedly there is one instanced group content but I am far for reaching the gs required... But from what I saw in a video it's mostly just players each doing there own thing next to each other....
What's going on with Memory Fragments? I never thought they would go back up. Are the newer gamba boxes not giving out any and so there's no longer a surplus?
>>2495460 Attack speed crystals like Olucas, learning the spot's mechanics better and leashing mobs better, switching to deep sea instead of courage, picking a class better suited for the spot. Up to you.
>>2496141 more important than that are skill burstpattern adjustments to hit HP breakpoints efficiently, backattack repositions etcs Aka just play better bro
>>2496276 yeah, usually you just keep the wild grass and silver azaela, can discard the rest of the plants too majority of money comes from sharps/extras
you can keep the inventory open and delete button running and keep gathering - during the gather animation you click a bunch of seeds and delete
try to not stop gathering unless you get two minigame seed procs in a row, always gather and delete 2nd priority
>>2436095 >newfag >doing the whole olivia academia questline >have to tame a horse >want to blow my brains out and just end it what the fuck is this dogshit trash? I needed 39 ropes for one fucking horse
How do I do the Star's End questline now that Star's End has been revamped to an absurdly powerful zone? I used to be able to complete that questline years ago but now the mobs are endgame mobs.
>>2504066 it literally doesn't matter on the mentee end as far as rewards go, I never interacted with my mentor a single time after using his code. Surely someone from here has a code you can use.
>>2504125 I hated the main story at first but after getting settled in it grew on me still think its presented terribly but the actual content is fine
I think I've used up most of all of my new player gibs now. Are my next cheap sources of AP all through adventure logs? character/COPtNwVrwF Also when should I hunt down the logs. I'm still moving through the main story, currently finished with star's end.
i have tried to kill odukinshi like 6 times now and every single time i am getting 100 to 0'd by something i can't see and have no idea what it is, did ANYONE bother to test this shit?
>>2504509 you should be doing igor's immediately since it generally follows the mainquests (which you're past now) didn't everyone get a free inverted garmoth's
>>2504700 yeah that's what everyone does you should have everything you need already from olvia academy but if you don't have a repairable rod, thats probably the one thing that is "necessary"
>>2504512 Lol you need to turn on remastered and effects to like at least 70 to do that fight reasonably, half the shit is literally fucking impossible to see. It's insane how much of a cakewalk it is when you can see what's hitting you kek how did they even release this shit
>>2505453 You will need all your accessories to be Kharazad for the Edania bosses, you're a little shy on DP as well. I'd advise working on getting new accessories and meeting the Jordine gearscore requirements asap so you can be getting your weekly Piece of Edana.
>>2505453 Go get everything from Olvia Academy's combat courses and the good stuff from it's seals Get your full 10ap/10dp from Adventure Logs Get another Kabua, Herald both Kabuas, buy all-out-attack lightstones, amplify them, and put them in the kabuas. Buy a Vell's Heart Buy two tet debo rings and convert them to pen kharazads+crystal then do earring the same way. Bless+exalt your vell's heart. Then start working on making a sov offhand and bring it to Pen.
>>2508013 I always held the opinion that it's quite a class based spot but I also haven't grinded there since it released so idk these days. You need effects on for that spot imo
>>2508663 There's plenty of purple gear to pity and waste a ton of silver on later, no need to force it early. Buy your wins while you can. It's all going to have your name on it anyway.
I basically committed every single debo cardinal sin in a span of 10 minutes yesterday and lost half of my ingame net worth But it led to a greater understanding of the game so it wasn't a complete loss I'm fine, I'm okay
>>2508890 Yeah I figured, its common for newish players to think that free crons are infinite but if you have any plans on advancing past early midgame your crons will disappear
And no matter the case, just because you didnt pay for crons, doesn't mean they dont have that value that you're potentially throwing away
>>2508898 you mean just because the taps require exponentially more crons? because every week there seems to be an event that shits out crons like the outfit boxes currently
>>2507589 Tanning takes the longest, yes. Took me about 7.5 to 8 hours for all 1000 of them Mining is about 2x faster than all the others because it's bugged and you get twice as much. Sometimes you'll even see two different stacks of them in the loot window and it's full amounts so not just the hedgehog proc.
>>2510037 >>2510064 started a Nova not long ago and i still have no idea how you're supposed to play Succ, it's so slow and awkward Awakening feels way better and sort of like an improved Ranger Awakening
>>2510322 nta, it takes me a considerable amount of effort to clear packs half of the time i'm just trying to stay mobile and weave around enemies to avoid getting chained to death
>>2510526 >half of the time i'm just trying to stay mobile and weave around enemies to avoid getting chained to death Unironically Chatgpt told me moving around too much means you're bad at Awak Nova.
>>2510544 i literally just said "lol fuck you asshole" after some dk whined about my teammate and I not doing enough while having the worst stats in the match in arena of solare. practice match by the way. i don't even care about winning or losing but god this game is full of insecure jackasses and you can't even tell them to go fuck themselves without getting banned. literally the most basic bitch insult "fuck you" is bannable.
>>2513309 The point is to *want* to cum but can't because 'affects muh collectors' value! You exist as the femdom's bdsm slave. Thats the exact bdo's dark knight vibe.
What grind spot do I go to so I can get from 60 to 61 quickly? There is a questline I want to do but after looking it up, it says I have to be 61 to start it but I am only 60. 298ap 364dp
>>2513601 vg is flooded by mentally ill cell phone gatcha game players ritual/avatar posting their waifu multiple times a day for years on end until their game hits EoS. There's literally thousands of posters doing it and it drowns out almost every other genre of game.
>>2513540 pretty sure most people who haven't played it think of it simply as korean coomerware, not as a real, solid mmo game so it rarely gets mentioned when discussing mmos It's really not unless you play it yourself for a few hours that you realize what a fantastic game it is.
>>2513715 I don't think most people even know this game exists, the marketing has always been nonexistent as far as I can tell. Which I don't really fault PA for because they didn't have the western marketing infrastructure or infinite CCP funds to brute force it like Chinaslop. That being said I don't think your average casul has the masochistic fortitude to endure korean style weapon enhancing anyway.
>social media brainrot zoomers this is so oddly specific it's bizarre, anyway we haven't had anyone shit up the general in a good year so i appreciate you giving us a laugh
>>2513742 there was a point in time a few years ago when they paid some major streamers like shroud and summit to play it. i dont remember any marketing since then. was that just release? >>2513757 yeah lets ignore the very real discussion currently happening so you can feel like you won :) fine with me zoomerguy
>>2513637 >>2513839 wait no sorry im thinking of 61 to 62, i think i leveled everything to 61 in traitor's graveyard, should take you like an hour with xp buffs
Pit should have a defeat sex mechanic, i think it's only fair. Logically if i, for example, "forget" to equip my armor, then by the same logic i should be dominated by futanari Ascendra in the mating press position. Just trying to be rational here, pragmatic even.
>>2513742 >I don't think most people even know this game exists, the marketing has always been nonexistent as far as I can tell.
BDO has been in my Steam top featured games continuously for the last 8 years tho. I think it's the only one (next to CS of course) that's been on there non-stop for so long and the ad-spot won't be cheap. I always scrolled past it thinking "no way I'm every gonna be playing THAT slop...." and here I am
I asked if I could use Seraph in NW and they guild leader said if I did I would never be allowed to war with them again. Is she really that ass or do they think I'm a one trick?
>>2515660 Seraph got heavily nerfed but your guildleader is a gay faggot nigger for restricting classes unless its one of the top guilds of the server (Then you're also a gay faggot nigger for being there)
>>2516171 Nice one dude. For a while I was consistently only ~20 gearscore behind you but you've jumped much farther ahead now. >>2516257 35 AP is always a lot but at this gearscore it's a humongous jump. It's basically from just about being able to do Nymph to Zephyros and Stars End, i.e. the hardest spots in the game.
>>2516201 >>2516333 Maybe you guys should just play the game? Here is what I do weekly: - Grind whenever I have Agris up (if out of Agris I usually go grind D2 Oluns). Making about 3–4b/hour right now with Agris at Tenebraum. - I do 6× T1/T2 NW/week — this is min. 6 × 800m (+1,000 Cron stones from medal exchange). We just got T4 Fort today, which got me 1.9b. - Hard-mode party shrine bosses (BIH, BON, UTU, JIG, BUL) = min. 5b/week (sometimes much more). - C9–C10 solo shrine bosses = min. 5b/week (sometimes much more). - Guild bosses (all of them) = min. 5b/week. - Atoraxxion dungeons O/V/S/Y + RH = min. 5b/week. - V Pit of the Undying = 500 Cron stones/week from seal exchange. - My workers net me around 500m–1b/day just in unprocessed materials. - World bosses whenever possible. I have an alt at every boss (Vell + Garmoth included). I got 2 Vell's Concentrated Magic drops in 2026 so far. - I make 3–4b on average from fishing each day when I am not actively playing. And there has been some crazy events going on lately... And I might have forgotten stuff from this list. Happy grinding :)
>>2516452 Yeah you're right I don't actively play much, but I wasn't really complaining about not keeping up with you, just remarking. I mostly afk either processing or fishing, then doing various types of bosses through the week. I probably grind less than an hour per week these days.
Previously, when you obtained a valuable item during your adventure, your character would cheer. While this clearly indicated that you had obtained a valuable item, the animation could put players in danger when it triggered unexpectedly in the heat of battle.
To keep the notification while preventing this risk, we have removed the cheering animation and added a UI notification instead.
>>2517636 >>2517745 There's a gap between the cheer i-frame and whatever protection you use out of it. I don't know about these days but ash forest took plenty of vipers and rebellious crystals from me during my debo grind back when it was the second most dangerous spot in the game due to the cheer animation letting the mobs clump up on me and spam attacks while I'm stuck in an animation, then I'd get instagibbed before I could iframe away. The hard spots these days feel a lot more fair with more telegraphed heavy hitting attacks and less gay like old ash so idek who's dying to cheer anis anymore
>>2517749 I would understand someone getting fucked in Yzrahid, getting a cheer at the wrong side of the pizza and getting oneshot due to the spot's mechanics, but losing a crystal because of the 0.1 seconds of non i-frames, and dying in that 0.1 second, that probably means you were undergeared for the spot in the first place.
>>2518595 It was from the release of a few outfit boxes last year that requires paying real money for seals on the side, that could be used to get more outfits or those titles.
>>2519695 I dont think all classes can do it, then there's also variability in crystals used, skill issue with animation cancellings etc Definitely some have it easier than others though
>>2519695 Typically no, with one CC plus a follow-up to max out the CC gauge you generally won't kill someone with full HP. If you downsmash however then you have extra time and should be able to, also you have teammates who hopefully would be able to help with some extra damage.
>>2519770 Depends on the classes desu, a succ ranger will get onecombo'd by a shai. Add to that E buff and you can have a class you wouldn't expect onecombo a succ nova.
>>2519454 Your mentor received the crons, didn't enjoy them yet. I ran out of failstacks so I'm waiting for enough event thingies to grab the 250fs and the hammers first, and then I'll tap. Good job mentee. Feel free to ask for advice for the next gear score checkpoints.
>>2522014 Not carried, just wrong choices. Think of all the failstacks you need for a HEX kharazad all the way up to NOV. Now do that 5 times. And then for hitting DEC, you need anything that's 280-300fs as well, so that's 6 big failstacks into the blender as well. The last thing I'd need for my next tap is to spend 20b for another 300fs, so I may as well wait a bit, grab the 250 from the event and save a fraction of the total cost.
>>2519454 wish you luck onwards! I just reached 701gs yesterday.....completely broke, down to 52 crons, 3 memory fragments and 0 caphras but finally I can get back to enjoying the game
At what fs would you stop using a stack for DEC Kharazad taps and save it for OCT/NOV Sovereign taps? I have a 324 stack right now plus pic related Advice of Valks.
>>2515363 That's a fair suggestion but it should also be symmetrical. If I defeat Kryll, for example, then perhaps Kun should come out and demonstrate what happens to the loser?
>>2523434 Can easily go to 350 if you want to as up to 350 each stack has a certain silver value cause you can recreate it anytime you want if you spend enough silver
>>2523434 Personally I would save the 324 you have and the 350 for the 2 OCT sovereign (succ/awak and sub weapon) and the 400 for the first NOV. Everything else literally doesn't matter especially since you have 7 x 300fs.
>>2523645 Yeah I hate this. The node at Garmmoth shows the exclamation regardless of the fact I have the knowledge and no matter how many times I've talked to it
>>2523929 There's grind spots in the game where +% resistance crystals are mandatory. At endgame spots you risk dying, but low tier spots are still annoying even if you're safe so you can't really go without them.
ESC -> F5 > 4 Look up the spot and it will have a hashtag with the CC the mobs deal, turos have knockdown/bound so buy adamantine crystals and slot in 2 of them.
>>2523929 it's mostly the boulder chuckers you have to worry about I think but they can't really hit anything that's moving turos taught me to reposition more while farming
>>2525582 aos is pure suicide fuel idk how anyone enjoys that, esp if you play a bad class. every time i watch a streamer playing aos they're malding even the top tier ones playing good classes
>>2525745 i frequently see like 400-500 elo crevices in players in a match between the lowest and the highest player. matchmaking should not transcend 2 whole ranks, it just makes the match an unfun stomp, but I guess queues would be longer so I suppose it is a population issue.
it feels bad when you get a guy who is getting completely knowledge, skill and/or comp checked because he's several hundred elo below the rest of the lobby. it also feels bad to be that victim who gets matched up in a ridiculous lobby and ran down. so far I'm not having fun and I would rather there be a huge RBF event going on. genuinely feels like shit to play poorly and be the weak link.
>>2525798 i unironically think real dodging needs to be a thing, a person who is in an abnormally high elo match should be able to dodge and eat the timer penalty and retry. likewise go for a high elo player who gets matched with people two ranks down from them.
>>2524291 it took me 4 crashes to figure out it was the fertilizer doing it >google >"working as intended guise, we've deactivated the item so if you use it, you'll crash your client" >"but we don't know how to adjust a tooltip so we'll just leave it as is until we figure out how to remove an item in our game" insane....is this normal for bdo?
>game has several options settings to remove obnoxious notifications >still get spammed with obnoxious notifications FUCK YOU I DONT CARE WHO JUST BEAT CALAMITY 9 DINGDONG
>finally get second carrack, a Valor >need 90€ in sailor slots for combat ones Should've done something better with my time like heroin or blowing dudes
>>2528388 I think people live too long. It's not uncommon for the round to go almost all the way to the timer. Barely anything happens in a lot of fights these days, it's mostly people iframing in a circle throwing SA skills at each other until someone desyncs or fat fingers the wrong key and falls over. 12-15 minute matches are absurd and happens more than I'd like it to.
>>2529884 >>2529804 I miss being at this rank. Yellow red and above are so stressful and it's when people start demanding comms and bitching on the mic when I don't really care. I haven't done ranked solare in a week and am heavily considering inting like ten games in a row just to get back into fun elo so I don't have to play with assholes.
>>2530674 Target priority, knocks and pings - if anyone needs more than that, they're too mentally inept to handle comms and report information that isn't distracting noise. AoS is 30% of the class rotation having dramatic advantages over others and then pretending anything other than metaslaving is playing well. It's a purely skillless game mode that boils down to class-first, ping test that you're obligated to engage with random players who are only invested in their own ELO, not yours, even if you're on their team for that round. Horrific PvP made worse by the dregs who grind it to death. And no, I do not want to listen to mouthy niggers and spics, so no, I won't be joining voice either - shutup and play better.
>>2530674 Yeah I hate these comms tryhard niggers I dont fucking care if you're being CC'd - If I was in a position to help you then I would already see that I dont care if you have someone CC'd - If I was in the position to follow up I would see that I don't care if someone used V - I'm not gonna change anything in my playstyle because this game is all about fishing for CC's anyways
I want to put an alt through season to tag it onto my Seraph. My current equipment puts my mainhand 7ap (305 vs 298) ahead of my awakening weapon so I was mainly looking at succession classes, but how big is that difference really?
>>2532190 Really you want to check the difference in monster AP rather than sheet AP, but overall it's not a huge issue. I am in the same situation and occasionally there are AP thresholds for grinding that I cross on my main but not on my tag, but in such a situation I either just deal with it, pop a perfume, or grind at a slightly lower spot. Nothing to worry about compared to not playing the class you want.
>>2515363 >someone tries to steal your rotation >flag up and grapple them into the dirt >fucking breed them BDO with sex mechanics and fetish shit would be too based it's a wonder no MMO or any game really has incorporated this
>>2533092 From my experience LA has worse balance than BDO so... yikes. I never gave a shit about enhancing or the main quest or weeklies etc etc but if i make a class and it deals 30k damage and i feel like a shit covered retard, and i make another one i don't like and i deal 500k then your game has a problem. Every day i am reminded that a slant eyed smushed nosed virgin gook made me waste 110 hours, and every time i look at a world map i see the solution. Let north korea reign over these incompetent yellow sterile finger-pinching emoting morons, and maybe they'll make decent games.
>>2536825 I've never seen the series but the book is possibly my favourite that I've ever read. I'm rereading it now for the first time in fifteen years, and I intend watch the show afterwards, but I doubt the show can capture the essence of Peake's prose. >>2539058 It could just be a coincidence, old sprawling castles aren't particularly uncommon, but I guess if you pair it with the mountain just nearby and the forests around it, it does start to have many similarities.
>>2542478 My problem is moreso that the most toxic obnoxious annoying players who think they are god's gift to BDO and believe they deserve to be in purple and above are permanently stuck in condiment rank with the rest of us and never blame themselves, whereas the players who are actually competitive and good at the game reach purple and have no problem staying the fuck out of our elo, and they can get the matches they want with the players they want. I don't want to hear anything from the meta abuser hard stuck in low rank matches complaining about teammates and lack of comms.
>>2542478 Anon you cant just partially delete an entire content thats tied to another currently useful content Even if its absolute total dog ass shit and completely worthless, they probably spent a bunch of time making it
>>2543890 Just turned 100k blush leaves into stonetail fodders, at least those are still selling on the market It will be nice to save time on the stupid busywork of replanting your farm every few hours so I expect lots of normies to jump onto it and drive prices down sooner or later
>>2541819 Heh I remember that when I used to barter back before naval karma was a thing. I'd go around blowing up all of the unmanned ships blocking barter ports and freeing up space for the active barterers.
>>2545239 That's even less than average on garmoth lil bro I usually got 58k or something along those lines, more if I got lucky with meme spawn things that happened there
the topography in bdo cannot be beaten, the mainland to this day is still almost perfectly designed with that touch of love you rarely see in games. damn it's so fucking good bros. i feel at home no matter where i go even when i'm disillusioned with the game, it still feels good to stand at the peak mountain in dreighan or to autopath down a river in calpheon
>>2545688 the ancient orzecans used to sacrifice children, and they kept the children locked away in the caves that are now the prison of the fallen ahib (under the crypt of resting thoughts) But the children cried a lot so some architect guy created the brass soldiers automaton (aka Gyfin Rhasia.....?) to amuse the children and keep them from crying. Then the snake of Hadum discovers the despair of these children and teaches them a song they can sing for their new toy soldiers. But it's a magical song that animated the toys into wrecking the prison and some of them escape (prolly the Rhas of current times...?) Hexa, who is the witch-concubine of the Orzeca chief, is pissed off and brings order to the prison and to punish the children and teach them not to sing anymore songs.... .... she has all of their teeth ripped out and placed into the cup of oblivion.... ...then a lot of magic stuff and Hadum and Kzarka and legend stuff and Bahit the hero which I didn't remember much... ....and then out of the remaining teeth of these children the fairies get reincarnated...
>>2545937 hexa moa not sure if she is the same as hexe afterwards... tho the Orzeca chief is the one who becomes Belmorn, founder of Hexe Kingdom, so he would prolly bring his bitch Hexa along...
>While it is widely known that the Oluns, the weakest of all who lived in these barren lands, were sacrificed as living offerings to Kzarka, before Kzarka, nameless children were offered up to the divine tree of the Thornwood Goddess once worshipped by the Orzecans. >For they believed that the innocent blood of the wailing children would bring about the abundance of the goddess. Only the priests knew about sacrificing the children in the Abyss of Oblivion, and no one else. This was due to Belshuan's witch, Hexa Moa, had a trick up her sleeve to deal with the crying, scared children. She would call forth Cantarnia, the genius architect of Orzeca, to gift her pastime of crafting toy soldiers of brass and bronze to the children. Once the toy was thrust into their hands, the children would cease crying, and the witch would make them sing songs about the toys. >The children would lose themselves for hours playing with their toy soldiers in the pitch-black cave without a single light. And yet, one being would come to hear this song that resonated throughout the deep and lonely Abyss of Oblivion.
>>2545925 sounds like some shit aidungeon would hallucinate which makes it kino because it came before ai and it was just pure unfiltered schizophrenia they spent years making sense of later
So far the Kamasylvia - O'dylita questline is my favorite....and I would never have thought saying this when I went into the Kama questline. It starts off as your standard good forest elf vs bad dark elf scenario but the further it progresses the murkier it becomes until by the time of O'dylita pt 2 the fullscale clusterfuck of bdo elfdom is revealed. Funny detail at the very beginning of the questline I think there was someone in Calpheon that said "don't become too involved with any of the elf factions, they're ALL seriously fucked up in the head!"
>>2548015 while humans are just average basic bitches
all in all maybe i'm overinterpreting things again but I get the feeling bdo women in general give a clue about why koreans aren't having babies anymore.....
I love how the Vedir are such girlfailures that they were at a complete loss after getting kicked out of Kamasylve into the wilderness of Odyllita, until they dug into the Orzecan records and discovered SLAVERY.
I'm gonna be away for five days and not interrupted by maintenance, I'm thinking the best thing for me to do is training at scarecrows over that time. Has anyone gone for that long before? I guess I'll need lots of worker food in my main inventory but besides that I should be fine.
>>2550199 I recommend at least having a google remote desktop thing active so you can check if you're still have it running with your cellphone because one mini-dc and it will boot you out of the game
They're giving away too many crons so i think they will lower the price to 1 million. Next they'll introduce a new set of gear superior to khara/sovs that will not downgrade, instead it will be use a weekly gated material like edana armors. The next class is male, deadeye's brother, and he uses a gun and also necromancy. The OG J will make an appearance during the ball. He will announce that the elvia realm is now super corrupted and the purple edania energy has spread. The elvia icon turns purple (very scary) and all zones will have 390+ AP versions. The thread is on page 10 so i predict someone will make a new thread.
Two random people invited me to grief their afk guildmate and had me cc them from town into a grind spot. I think we spent like 10 minutes just chatting while I carried this afk guy to a grind spot. I was incredibly unsober and barely knew what I was doing the entire time but they asked me to help so I did. It was the weirdest and most endearing online experience I've had in an mmo in so long like I just sat with these two guys who wanted to pull a prank on their friend and I was just some random faggot they came across and decided to use. As soon as I got the guy to the grind spot, we all said quick goodbyes and the whole experience evaporated into nothing. I will probably never see any of those people ever again. It was fun
>>2550709 they're giving away more crons than ever and doing 1+1 boxes out of season because the game is dying and players are dropping off again literally bdo is in maint mode, more mmo competition is coming too, the glory days are long over
>>2552308 can you kite the field bosses in bdo across the map? some of the best wow memories I have are of kiting fel reavers thru quest zones and into shattrath city with random players jumping onto the bandwagon until the gm's showed up and threatened to ban everyone....