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Come here for talk about all things Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.

Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/58797169/ >>58797169

Romhacks Overview/Reviews: https://rentry.org/pmdglph

PMD Fan Fiction Archive: https://rentry.org/pmdg-ffarchive

PMD Guides: https://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
Explorers of Sky Romhacking Guide: https://rentry.org/skytempleguide

Everything about the Clover Guild: https://cloverguild.com/
Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/2XwFH8wzCz
Mobile Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/usq6hJZetX
Drawing Request: https://rentry.org/DrawReqPublic

Questions:
>Do you like having extra-powerful enemies in dungeons, such as the "strong foes" in RTDX?
>Are Pokemon typecast into careers/roles based on their species, and is there any stigma if they pursue a different path?
>Have you ever beaten a level reset dungeon? If not, do you want to?
>What type of gummi looks the most delicious to you?

Recap of the previous thread:
>Vaporeanon concluded Team Eevee's first arc with "Genesis: An Epilogue": https://rentry.org/CG-EGen
>Kiyo-anon's Banana Blues comic has been updated with colors by Linoone-anon: https://rentry.org/kcb-c1
>Discussion about many topics, including Pokemon technology, birthdays and the calendar, whether humans exist in PMD, and various types of fanworks
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>>58848749
>>Do you like having extra-powerful enemies in dungeons, such as the "strong foes" in RTDX?
Absolutely, even having the regular enemies go into an awakening state and even evolve when you don't revive a party member they defeat goes a long way.
>Are Pokemon typecast into careers/roles based on their species, and is there any stigma if they pursue a different path?
It would moreso be certain species being more desired for certain jobs rather than something being set in stone. If you had to hire a delivery mon, you'd probably hire speedy mon or one capable of flight over a slow one like a gulpin. They would only face stigma if they drastically underperform due to being really unsuited for the roll.
>Have you ever beaten a level reset dungeon? If not, do you want to?
A good number of them, Wish Cave (BRT and DX), Purity forest (BRT and DX), Zero Isle East, West and South, Path of no Return and all non Meowth Cinema lv resets in PSMD. If you wanna count ROM Hacks, I've beaten Zero Dungeon's arcade mode many times.
>What type of gummi looks the most delicious to you?
None of them, they should all be burned. Grindy ass pieces of shit.
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>>58848749
>>Are Pokemon typecast into careers/roles based on their species, and is there any stigma if they pursue a different path?
i wouldn't think it'd be hard and fast, no
>>Have you ever beaten a level reset dungeon? If not, do you want to?
no and i don't wanna
>>What type of gummi looks the most delicious to you?
between water and grass they look the most tasty for some reason
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Furry thread
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>>58849987
yes, and?
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>>58849987
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What types of flavoured drinks would they have in a PMD world?
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>>58850017
Spinda's Cafe has a bunch of drinks likes sodas and shakes, right?
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>>58848518
Like $220 usd or something. CIB and in really good shape. I know I kind of overpaid a bit but ebay asswanks had that dumbass sales tax, so I just got it locally instead.

Just need to find a way to flash my emu savefile into the cart since I don't want to start over.
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>>58850667
pretty sure there's some 3ds homebrew to do this but not sure what
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>>58850118
Based on every gummi flavor, yeah
Pretty sure there's alcohol in Gates too
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>>58850017
That good shuckle shi
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>>58848749
>predictable story
>annoying as fuck partner
>decent gameplay, but worse than normal Pokemon overall
>terrible fandom, an actual fucking cult. Possibly even worse than Undertale
I thought I would like playing as a pokemon man, I was so disappointed
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>>58852140
Fair on all fronts. Especially the fandom. Including this thread sometimes.
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>>58852624
People are bored. This IP gets neglected hard and now everyone's got some kind of fatigue. I wonder what it's going to take to breathe some life back into this fandom. Rescue Team DX was alright. Can't complain about it. But what everybody really wanted was something new that also captured the magic of playing Explorers for the first time. But instead we get rehashes or ports of older games that were already long overdue for a re-release, all on a console that paywalls them with subscription-based models. The only thing a PMD fan can do is complain, or make their own shit.
Also this captcha sucks fat donkey nuts.
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>>58853901
>slow movement speed
That being said this isn't even the worst case i've seen. I once failed a rescue because the client was a Shedinja who died to flying over lava.
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>>58853901
Water type supremacy
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>>58853901
Wish we could at least throw rocks at these retards
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>>58853901
The AI is too smart to do that now but there should be some kind of option for your character to yell and aggro everyone within a certain amount of tiles for those situations.
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>>58853691
I always love seeing unusual pokemon teams
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>>58853691
An Explorers team that doesn't have a furfag in it. Impressive
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>>58854506
This, it's nice to see after so many eevees and vulpix
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>>58854994
Not fair. There have been shinxes too
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>>58855005
You think the high number of riolus, shinxes, eevees and vulpix in fan media could be in part because of how saying Yes to having played Time or Darkness in EoS makes the new starters more likely?
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>>58855159
Yeah obviously. Eevee is pretty popular, but riolu tends to get overshadowed by Lucario everywhere except PMD, and vulpix and shinx, while still liked pokemon, don't get nearly as much attention from mainline game fans relative to PMD
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>>58855159
Absolutely, that quiz weighs so heavily for those guys if you answer yes.
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>>58855159
How many people actually played Time/Darkness before Sky instead of just jumping straight to Sky, though?
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>>58856253
back then i did actually have both because it was the boxart that drew me in and sky wouldn't be public knowledge for a while.
so by the time i played sky personally i had already started most of t/d.
in a time when its benefits were less well-known, it wouldn't be a surprise then that people did play the original duo before the enhanced edition.
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>>58855159
I always get Squirtle in these personality tests. I hate that bald monlet.
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>>58856316
Get in the shell, turtle.
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>>58856261
And nowadays, if you're metagaming, you'd be a fool no to choose Yes to having played t/d because it makes like 100 pokemon easier to recruit the first time.
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>>58856497
the benefit i have in saying it though is that it's a true statement on top of the metagame.
luminous goddamn cave
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>>58856497
If you're gonna metagame, just edit the ROM and pick your starters there
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>>58857613
Love the angry cat face on the Pikachu lol.
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The recycle shop in sky is giant fucking pain in the ass and I refuse to be told otherwise.
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>>58858808
That's right!
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>>58856316
i lobe him
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>>58856253
I’m sure plenty of people did that before Sky came out. But ever since Sky became available, I bet it’s rare for anyone to play TD because they’re simply inferior.
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>>58858808
What!? You don't like gambling? You don't like what's essentially a crafting system? You don't like the overly long drink making cutscene that makes the IQ grind even worse while giving you stat increases? You don't like having 2 of the noteworthy dungeons new to EoS (Zero Isle Centre and Destiny Tower) locked behind doing 150 recycles or drink RNG respectively? You don't like having your party members forever stuck in a Starbucks and not at the crossroads? But it's NEW content!!!
I swear sometimes Time/Darkness sound more preferable than Sky with how many of the Sky additions are annoying or unnecessary and the game's strong points are from Time and Darkness.
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>>58859402
What else do you even get in sky? I only played explorers of time, or romhacks. Did I miss out?
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>>58859441
The games by and large are the same, when people cock suck Explorers, they glaze things that originate from Time and Darkness (and Special Episode 5, I'll get to that). The big aditions to sky are the Spinda Cafe (what I just ranted about), Sky Peak, a new "story" "dungeon" added after graduation, and the special episodes. Sky Peak is cock and ball tourture to experience, it's basically 10 beach caves strung together, getting a full HP, PP and Belly after each one. Since you can bring whatever mon you want, that means you arent a part of the story, your characters just kinna stare into space as a Shaymin serves as your anoying tour guide. There's some minor story with other mons and teams going up the mountain, but it's really unimportant. As for the special episodes, they are definitively the bigest aditions, but I dislike most of them. I have no wripes with Igglybuff's special episode, and the only thing I dislike about Bidof's is the stupid theory about Jirachy grantig Bidof's Wish nearly causing ther planet's paralisis. Sunflora's special episode is just filler about Sunflora arresting an invencible outlaw (Woah!) and making peace with Loudread, who gives a fuck. Team Charm's special episode is just these non chaaracter going on a super cool and awsome treasure hunt where they meet Wigglytuff and their rivals are the non caracters from team AWD, who cares. And Special Episode 5 is the root of (most) evil in the PMD comunity, all the shit about Grovyle x Dusknoir originates from here. It doesn't help that this Special Episode is far longer than the other 4, even though it takes place as the Hero and Partner go up Temporal Tower to restore the future (You even at one point go up the Temporal Tower in the future, and its just a waste of time, there's no one there).
I suggest you just watch the cutscenes of the special episodes (and maybe Sky peak to see how ass it is) on Youtube.
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Never saw something actually try to be an Time/Darkness elitist.
I played both, Sky is better.
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>>58859494
>when people cock suck Explorers, they glaze things that originate from Time and Darkness
truth nuke but i'd say it's a similar situation to emerald/platinum where you don't really have much reason to play TD if you have access to sky since sky kinda just adds without removing
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>>58859512
Of course Sky is de facto better, It has everything from time and darkness and then more. What pisses me of is that what Sky adds is for the most part ass or unimportant, and the stenghts of the game is stuff from Time and Darkness. It's sorta the same problem I have with the rom hack Explorers of Fortune, where It adds QoL patches that take like 30 minutes to apply in total and a good bunch of Pokémon (though slots where wasted on adding muh shinies and muh legendaries). Even if I find these aditions to have little merit, the hack IS de facto better than Sky becasue It has the same shit as Sky, and some more on top.
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>>58859531
Sky is just a much more polished game. You shit on Spinda's cafe but it actually gives legendary Pokemon that were in Time/Darkness places to go instead of the dogshit random encounters in other dungeons.
It introduced the lookalike items as well in addition to the different outlaw missions.
Moreover it has a lot of QoL that Time/Darkness doesn't have.
You can see which team mates can use a TM at a glance, when you save it gives you an option to return to the main menu, the IQ skill a Pokemon will told to the player, when you recruit new Pokemon you're given the option for who you'd like to send back to the guild instead of forcing the new recruit away, and they added new traps. Not to mention helping with storage.
I don't see the issue that the expanded re-release of Time/Darkness has all of the strengths of Time/Darkness.
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>>58848749
I wish I could increase my IQ by eating candy too..............
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>>58859554
To clarify, I'm not telling people to play Time/Darkness over Sky. The things you mentioned are positives, however Big or small, and there are few things that Sky adds that are not ignorable if you don't like them. (Fuck Sky Peak, fuck teamates waiting in spinda café). The things Is that back in the day, you'd have had to play the same price for what's broadly the same game, and nowadays you have to pay the scalper fee, though I trust that the people here are smart enough to just download the rom.
Also, many legendaries are still random encounters in Sky, the exceptions are that Jirachi got added to the new star cave, Mewtwo and the legendary beasts where turned into challenge requests. In fact, Moltres went from final maze to random encounters. I wont complain though, I'd rather have final maze be purposeless than a Jirachi Gulag.
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>I trust that the people here are smart enough to just download the rom.
>>58850667
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>>58859581
>he's never heard of merh
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>>58860264
How is the Middle Eastern Research Hub related to this discussion?
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>>58859749
He already said he has a save file on emulator. And there’s nothing wrong with buying physical in the first place.
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>>58860859
Unless you're "paying the scalper fee"
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Just read the Gathering story, It was a very good introduction to the setting and a very pleasant read!
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I don't want a Explorers remake on Switch engine because they'll just ruin the game.
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>>58862351
Do you plan to read any more stories?
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>>58862484
Red rescue team on NSO was perfect for me. Explorers if they add DS games somehow would be great.
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>>58863380
Yes, absolutely! I plan to read them by date published.
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>>58863860
Dear God. Good fucking luck catching up
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>EAT SHIT!
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>>58863860
Your tenacity is inspiring. I'd be happy to hear about what stories you enjoy and dislike. There's plenty of stories that I sadly consider filler, (especially from authors who have left the project) so I hope you're okay with that.
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I heard about this merch collection from a few years ago called Pikachu Adventure, and it gives me PMD vibes
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>>58865292
>There's plenty of stories that I sadly consider filler

This is one of the reasons why I burned out on writing for Clover. I don't feel my stuff was worth the time, especially my own.
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I wish there was a way to rate stories more concisely than just asking/giving recommendations in the thread. I like the idea of getting more interaction here, and more personalized reccomendations, but realistically I don't think it's worth the effort to most of the lurkers to ask, and at this point the backlog has to be insanely intimidating.
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For what it's worth, I quite like slice of life stories. Even if one could consider them filler, I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all.
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>>58864610
Am I the only one who gets the impresion that the Fennekin is going to snap and incinerate the seeder at any moment?
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>>58865933
The good ending?
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if I always do the the same steps in the boss room, will it always end in the same result?
Ive tried to befriend deoxys for about 20 times now with a 15% chance, he never asks. I know the rng line in pokemon games is a thing. Do I need to dance before him to get different results?
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>>58866324
If you're reloading a save state over and over, I belive so? In Rescue Team in particular, there are people who do dungeon manips because if you quicksave, the RNG number that determines the layout gets set to 0, and from there everything becomes deterministic, if you do the same steps, you get the same result. If you're running the dungeon over and over againg, you can follow one of these manips (it uses an articuno that hasn't seen combat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6_nOffVyQo). If you don't want to follow a strict set of inputs, you could try making Deoxys pick up a reviver seed such that, if it faints and you don't get the recruit, you get another shot at recruiting it (This will cause its HP to be increased a lot due to a bug if it revives, rissing to 950 HP).
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>>58866377
but you cant just save the game the floor before the endboss and restart and if he doesnt join? I just tried that and lost all my items due to that. Kind of sucks.
I wanted do befriend all legendaries but its too tiresome. But doing RNG like in that video on all of them feels like cheating. If I get them by following a literal step by step guide why bother.
But thanks for the vid. Does it keep the increased hp even in dungeons with lvl geset?
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>>58866424
I haven't tried, but it shoudn't.
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>>58865292
>I'd be happy to hear about what stories you enjoy and dislike
This. It's always great to have story discussion, and for authors to get feedback.

>>58865494
If you're talking about giving stories a score or number rating based on how good it is, I don't think that's the best idea. It could make writers discouraged if their stories get bad ratings. And anons might give each other high scores no matter how good the story actually is, just because they're friends behind the scenes, or because an anon is popular, or because the story has a meme or joke that they like.
>the backlog has to be insanely intimidating
It'd be nice if every story at least had a summary, so people could focus on the stories that sound interesting to them, instead of reading through so many stories with varying subjects and tones.

>>58865630
I agree. Sometimes it's just nice to get a comfy story.
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>>58865494
At least for me dropping a review/impression of a story feels weird when I realize the story is 2 years old and the author probably isn't frequenting the thread anymore. Probably just me being an autistic fuck though.
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>>58865292
NTA but I did the same thing as him last year. Dew Point was probably my single favorite story out of the bunch. I also really liked Bill/Gill and the Makky stories. Haven't read anything in a while but that's because I'm a lazy jackass.
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>>58849987
>He says on the furry board
Anon i...
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>>58868030
>Riolu partner
Impossible
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I have honestly never cared for Grovyle (or Dusknoir) as a character. I do not get the hype. The special episode was boring and did nothing for me
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>>58868871
Games written for children do not usually have characters with real depth. They have characters who look mysterious because they don't explain much about said character and that leaves room for imagination.

That is why people like Grovyle and Dusknoir. They literally pretend they're cool
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>>58869517
Mfw when Guild Tax and romance between the self insert of the kid's game and their side kick.
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Is there a way to hack the game so the Personality test provides Munchlax as a player option?
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>>58869859
It's relatively easy - you can even disable the personality test itself, I believe.
Download Skytemple. If I remember correctly, the Patches menu allows you to turn off the test, and the Starters menu allows you to change the mons on offer.
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I recently downloaded all these games for my rom collection. Which one is the best to play first?
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>>58869517
I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry
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>>58869875
Either Blue Rescue Team or Explorers of Sky are good starting points.

When you do play one put your thoughts about it on the thread. I like seeing those.
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>>58869875
Rescue team, either red or blue is fine. Then explorers. Then, it depends, so just start with those two
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>>58870469
aye aye captains
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>>58870475
Reminder there's no real reason to play time/darkness over Sky.
inb4 munchlax starter, just skytemple whatever starters you want at this point
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>>58871227
Meowth is neat but yeah.
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>First Character Prompts
I read through the first two questions and decided this one probably isn't for me. I don't have enough of an image of these characters yet to connect them to their answers. I might come back to this one in the future. I'm also not completely sure what the greentext is supposed to be, but I'm assuming it's Out Of Character reactions to their answers?
>Oshawott's Adventures in Swimming
Very short, but quite sweet. It presents a good melancholic image, and even if "non-canon", I hope this Oshawott finds a nice home in their new life.
>Map (Original)
The intro was a fun deception! Booker's solution to the problem seems reasonable enough given that it took him a few tries, and I've never moved a map with a small rock so I'll have to give it the benefit of the doubt. I do wonder how the rooms in the building are set up such that he's able to move from the library, to the storeroom, to the map room without problem, but maybe they've just skipped placing doors altogether.

>>58863872
Thanks! There's a bunch, and I'm sure I'll be too busy to read them at times, so I'm taking my time and doing it at my own pace.
>>58865292
I don't mind "filler". I could of course trim it down to just the "Worldbuilding entries" if getting through it quickly was my goal, but I enjoy slow atmospheric stories too. I've never been much good at writing out my thoughts, but I'll give it a try.
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>>58871812
Ah, right. That should probably be moved off the time published list. Thank you, anon.
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>>58871812
>Map (Original)
As an additional nitpicking point I forgot to mention, the twist ending of the map being the wrong one seems a tad unnecessary. Booker mentioned earlier in the story that the map matched a description they were given, so it seems a little far-fetched that they wouldn't have seen another matching map first while scanning the room. It is of course realistic enough that the map he was supposed to get had been moved by someone else out of the room earlier in the day, but it doesn't add much to the story in the end and the joke didn't really hit for me personally. On the other hand, it could be a working example of showing that Booker has a tendency for tunnel focusing, and hadn't looked around for another map matching the description once he saw that one.
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>>58871812
By character prompts, I'm assuming you mean the Q&A stuff? It's definitely miscellaneous stuff and not usually that important outside of fun character info that doesn't have a place in a story. So no, you don't have to read it yet. The first one was definitely the most unorganized one.
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What kind of personality would you want to see for the partner in the new PMD that will surely be announced next month?
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>>58872942
We need a RT or GATES styled partner again, we got a coward and we got a nuisance - back to actually well adjusted people now, thank you.
Preferably with a little bit of sarcasm and bite like in RT. (if you picked the right convo options)
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i am going to be a riolu this playthrough… with a shinx partner… just this once… just to experience it…
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>>58873133
He is lost to us.
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Has anybody here played Shallow Shindig? I just finished this heap of dog shit and need to vent with somebody who's experienced it.
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>>58873678
yes, and it's terrible
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>>58873678
yes. it's fuckin' horrible
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>>58873681
Thank fuck it wasn't just me. I can't believe somebody finished this shit, looked it over, went "looks good", and published it.
I really don't know where to start. The worst part was easily giving Wigglytuff an edgelord backstory that basically made him the Green Goblin, but there are a lot of ties for second worst
>Skuntank is pretty much a hero instead of being a selfish shit-stirrer
>Manaphy being the most useless shitter and actively dragging everybody down
>Chatot being a total-
...nah, actually Chatot being a fucking bitch is pretty in-character.
>"The Husk" granting multiple free as fuck actions to let the story go to where it needs to go
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>>58873678
that's the stupidly edgy one with longlegs wigglytuff, right?
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>>58873688
Don't forget
>partner just sacrificing himself for no reason

>>58873692
yes
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>>58873688
>an edgelord backstory
god where's that post about needless edge when you need it. someone else's fanfic is a literal edgefest and it's praised by the absolute fuckwits that make up this fucking community while the author goes around concealing that shit

god fuck the internet pmd included
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>>58873692
Yeah, that's the one. What a fucking villain design, by the way. "What if we gave him a permanent fucked up grin and legs longer than the rest of his body"
If you look at him from the side he runs like fucking SpongeBob
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>>58873696
>>partner just sacrificing himself for no reason
While not one but TWO dogshit remixes of the farewell theme play, by the way. I guess it made a little bit of sense in gameplay, if he was concerned about Wigglytuff catching up too fast. Skuntank fucking folded in two hits, he wasn't holding back shit. But it's still forced as fuck
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>>58873697
>god where's that post about needless edge when you need it. someone else's fanfic is a literal edgefest and it's praised by the absolute fuckwits that make up this fucking community while the author goes around concealing that shit
Sauce me on this, senpai, I have no idea what you're talking about. What did he conceal?
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I laughed when he killed Bidoof first and I'm NOT sorry
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>>58873688
would you believe me if i told you that the guy who made this is the biggest faggot in the skytemple community? I say made but he can't script and is just a retarded idea guy
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>>58873688
How about
>protag regains the Dimensional Scream ability just to predict that Wigglytuff is coming
>gets a second Dimensional Scream FOR A FUCKING FLASHBACK SEQUENCE
How about
WIGGLY SITTING HIS ASS DOWN FOR THE ENTIRE FLASHBACK SEQUENCE PLUS EVOLUTION SCENE
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>>58873710
I could believe it but I'd like to hear more. What makes him a faggot beyond just his absolute dogshit story creations?
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>>58873704
go look it up on fanfiction.net it is a gorefest on ffn called free n forth by a guy named darkestccino. literally all the female characters have psychopathic tendencies, there's numerous gore lots of stabbing, electrocution, humiliation via leash, strangulating, black mail and abusive manipulation i can go on and apparently this was rewritten from a deviantart version where originally one of the girls who tortures one of the male characters in the rewrite with manipulation raped him originally

i went and tortured myself with his two stories that have extremely shit grammar full of redundancy and often failing to mention the proper subject in the sentence multiple times. absolutely not pmd when you actually scrutinize it
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>>58873717
The main thing is he never shuts the fuck up about himself and will flood his retarded ideas in their server. He can't do any actual work so he ropes other people into his shitty projects. In fact, he has a project, that's dead in the water, called blooming horizons and somehow got a well known pmd comic creator named wooled to work on it. He is the epitome of a discord user.
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>>58873719
Wish I could say I'm surprised but I'm not. Of course this shit is his fucking fetish. I'm just still completely in awe. Who plays PMD and goes "yeah, what if... Wigglytuff's immaturity was actually radiation poisoning and he finally goes sicko mode"? It really only makes sense. If the Creator was just looking for something to insert that garbage into, and I guess now it makes sense because that was his thing all along
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>>58873722
i don't know if the wigglytuff guy is the same as this guy but with how many freaks frequent the internet these days is it really any surprising how many there are
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>>58873688
Minor complaint but I just remembered
>why is the cave empty on the first go through
The entire point of using it as a hiding place was that le Wigglyhusk hadn't been there yet. So why was it empty?
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>>58873688
>>Skuntank is pretty much a hero instead of being a selfish shit-stirrer
Also
>>>Skuntank is smart
Skuntank is supposed to be a total dumbass who's only clever in comparison to his dumbass lackeys
Here he's intelligent enough to be able to instantly deduce that Wigglytuff is blind and will only attack things he can hear, based off of ONE ENCOUNTER
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>>58862351
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>>58871872
Thanks for reading our stuff and sharing your thoughts! It's always nice to hear what people think.
I appreciate your feedback on my stories. The point about the ending of "Map" is fair. Honestly, I never was very fond of it myself. Endings can be hard to write.
>I do wonder how the rooms in the building are set up
Back when I wrote the story, the layout of the guildhall was very nebulous. We've got a more solid idea by now, though. The rooms Booker visits in that story (library, supply closet, and map room) are all next to each other on the second floor.
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By the same "creator"
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>>58873762
>gays are so selfish they will stop time
Not the message he wanted to send methinks!
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>>58873785
they never think
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>>58871812
Thanks for sharing your thoughts anon, remembering these stories is a blast from the past.
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>>58873762
>>>>Munna
From the producers of "What If Wigglytuff Was Actually Le Demon", we proudly present: "What If Darkrai Was Actually Le Gay Pedophile"!!!
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>>58873719
why is PMD so plagued by fetish writing
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>>58873688
There's a video playtrough recording of the hack that has 200k views (insane for a PMD hack) and plenty of comments glazing it. Read them if you want to loose faith in humanity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SXTO0NBF5Q
Absolute fucking fake game with fake gameplay. The town looks like ass outside of like the Guild, NPC interactions were more shallow than a puddle, two fucking dungeons with no enemies (but the water is blood!!!1!), a force loss against the husk, a choice of either good or bath ending (there are no saves, if you choose the bad ending you'll have to sit trough the whole cringe ass backstory again to get the good one) and a force win where if you're defeated, you just go "Nah, I can't loose like this."
>>58873715
The fucking flashback scene is complete dogshit. Heavily derived from the the one at the end of the main story and almost exclusively made out of existing scenes from the main game. I don't know who people make hacks/stories with the cast of Sky can look themselves in the eye and say they've written characters when they do shit that piggy banks so much off of the main game.
>>58873717
The creator is too fast to shut down critizism hurled against anyone, Big contributor as to why Skytemple is a cesspool of toxic positivity.
>>58873734
>Skuntank deduces that Wigglytuff is blind and will only attack things he can hear, based off of one encounter.
Must also have no sence of smell. How the fuck does he not catch a whiff of the GIANT SKUNK?
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If you want a PMD Halloween hack, just play Halloween Havoc. >>58823939
If you want PMD but messed up, play Explorers of Pain, the beggining is fucking dogshit, and it will likely never be finished, but it's fun to see how everyone in the guild is fucked up, gamepley for the seccond and third dungeon is surprisingly good and funny, and the story hasn't have had time to spiral out of control.
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>>58873678
When I first played it I thought it was some kind of parody of shitty video game creepypasta, but it's completely sincere. The 'director' only ever has two kinds of ideas, Shallow Shindig or things like >>58873762 where he butchers a character from Explorers (it's always Explorers)
>>58873722
The two are unrelated, the Shallow Shindig guy doesn't even write his hacks. A full fanfiction is way too much work for him
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>>58873957
my initial point was more that this shit being so rampant is precisely the point of why it shouldn't be surprising
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>>58873762
I didn't think they could make Darkrai worse. I actually prefer he be a more one dimensional character than a maniac stopping time to save his gay relationship.

And why pretend that the original backstory is just rumor or hearsay? The guy says it himself. He has no problems with admitting to be evil. One of the only things I did respect about him.
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>>58873957
you forgot director-sama's magnum opus of character designs

his youtube channel is equally comical. I've not watched these videos but the thumbnails when you hover over the video say all you need to know https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4iRpYcWOe7oocvW4ozfMFA

i hate this fucking faggot so much you have no idea, he is the ultimate ideas guy redditor and i dont know why people work with him. faggot even brags about being a director and how he's never actually touched skytemple i just don't get it
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>>58874623
does kecleon carry the silph scope?
what the FUCK is that other sprite supposed to be?
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>>58874623
So this is what happens when you let the sped teachers go unchecked
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>>58874636
bubsy - this particular hack was made by the other biggest retard in skytemple who also never shuts the fuck up and just churns out autistic even by pmd standards slop - but the nightmare itself was designed by director-sama
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>>58874712
>Bubsy PMD hack

I just realized that Bubsy out of all things got THREE games since the last non-remake PMD
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>>58874712
How serious is this hack? Like they're using Bundy, it has to be a shitpost right?
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>>58874853
You'd think. But the creator decided to make it an "emotional" and "heartwarming" story goes from being a laugthing stock to a true hero respected by all, with aspects of found family where a small kid Sprigatitto lets hobo Bubsy live in her house.
Saying it didn't pan out right is cutting it short.
The hack also makes attempts at humor, but none of them are funny.
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"heartwarming" story where Bubsy goes*
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>>58874885
>The hack also makes attempts at humor, but none of them are funny
Staying faithful to the character at least
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>>58874623
Now hold on a minute. This was the same creature from KMS. Did they just make an asset flip of their previous asset flip?
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>>58874899
She dissowned KMD because an abusive ex boyfriend from her harem suggested moves (custom or not, I don't remember) for Klonoa, and she wanted to cut ties with him.
Then imediately took that as an excuse to reuse the main threat/antagonist from KMD in BMD
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>>58874910
What does she mean by "disowned"? She made the hack, it exists. How does that in any way justify being a lazy bitch and reusing a final boss that wasn't even good in the first game.

It's not even her design at that.
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>>58874918
With disowned I mean she delisted it and doesn't brag about it. Of course, it doens't justify reusing the final boss, but there's no final boss that would have made the hack any good.
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>>58874623
is that bubsy
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>>58874946
i should really just scroll down one or two more posts before asking questions
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>>58874885
>Never the boy
>Never drew a dime
>Never in a good game
>Never had a memorable level
>Never put anyone over
>Never had the balls to step out his 3/10 comfort zone even when the Gold X Award was thrown at him
>Main evented the lowest drawing PS1 game
>Tanked the play rate of Bubsy 3D so hard the sequel got cancelled
>Was barely ever in the main title picture because he was never a big enough deal
>His Sonic cosplay was cringeworthy
>Unironically calls himself """"""""DA BEST MASCOT PLATFORMER ON THE SNES!""""""""
>Shit taste in enemies (this one is actually 100% true, the Woolies were terrible)
>Shit design
>Has Sonic's name tattooed on his neck
>Failed at his first job so badly that he resorted to conceding to a bandicoot
>Only significant achievement was accidentally being booked to have a game in the 2020's
>Is the videogame equivalent of that one insufferably mediocre middle manager whose sole professional """""""achievement"""""" is staying in the same shitty job for 25 years
>spent the latter part of his career attempting to bury superior talent (Mario)
>The biggest impact he had on the business was giving angry reviewers a game to rant about
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>>58874712
this hack was funded by your tax dollars bc this sped confirmed she gets disability
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>>58875174
kek, our money hard at work
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>>58874885
and the ending is literally ripped out of super mystery dungeon word for word frame by frame
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>playing explorers of alpha on expert
>get basically soft-locked right before dialga with no reviver seeds, orans, or useful orbs
its so fucking over
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>>58875464
Is there a playthrough of this hack I can watch? I've no desire to sit through it myself but it sounds embarrassing enough to put on in the background
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>>58875472
I believe, anon
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>>58875481
The person who made the hack plays it herself on twitch, so you can check the vods there. The other thing I should mention is that she updates her hack fucking constantly to the point the SkyTemple server had to implement a rule that you can't spam the hack-announcements channel. All the changes usually small insignificant tweaks like fixing a typo or two. She has been trying to add minor changes the story after someone reviewed her hack basically calling it shit, but no matter how much you polish a turd it will still be a turd.
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Eevee that’s constantly mistaken for a girl even though they’re a boy
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>>58875650
this but a sylveon
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>>58875671
And they're baiting people
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>>58875174
>>58875283
It's either this or it goes to Israel.
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I hope anons don't judge me when I play as an Eevee or a Riolu or a Pikachu...
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>>58876016
>Riolu
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>>58875650
Impossible because of the tail pattern
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>>58876016
>pikachu

i like pikachu good work
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>>58876046
Wasn't even a thing for nearly 25 years until they decided it was.

>>58876016
Why would you want to play as an eevee and have fuckall for moves and be forced to evolve?
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>>58876080
I'm not forced to evolve. I want to evolve
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>>58876278
Hope you're at least hacking in the missing animations then. Still no idea why chunsoft slacked off there.
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Someone made some PMD kino in the drawthread
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wurmple: oh dear, it appears we've run out of apples!

swellow:
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>>58876535
No, you misunderstand the dynamic. It would be the other way around.
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>>58876016
>vulpix barely dodge the accusations
phew!
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>>58876565
You're not a political sperg. You wouldn't get it.
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>>58876609
shitpix is judged without saying dear anon
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>>58876046
Human accidentally’d into a female Eevee’s body and thus has to keep correcting people
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>>58876720
That's why you shouldn't take the "Are you a boy or a girl?" question lightly. You don't want to end up a trannie.
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>>58875568
She is 27 years old and still not funny. What the fuck went wrong here?
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Next jam's Clover hack should have a failed game mascot to compete with the sheer power of PMD Bubsy.
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What's everyone's favorite/most used held item? For me it's gotta be X-Ray Specs
Knowing where all the items and enemies are at all times is just insane and it feels off when I run without them
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>>58878109
What the hell would we even use? Bubsy is really hard to compete with in terms of failed mascots. Only thing that comes to mind for me is the Cheetahmen. It's an isekai story at least, so it's more relevant to PMD than Bubsy
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>>58878145
Not quite a held item, but since PSMD had the whole emera system in place of both held items and IQ skills, I'll give it to the Even Odds emera. It has a strong effect, but not overly so, adds depth to the PP amount of your moves and constantly asks you weather to cash in the effect with your odd PP moves, or to instead use an even PP move to get the effect ready for the next encounter. The critical hit zoom in and sound effect is just enough to make them satisfiying.
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>>58878344
My favorite emeras were the one that sometimes lets you hit twice and the ones that make enemies get status ailments when you hit them or they hit you. I don’t remember ever seeing one called Even Odds. Wonder how many more emeras exist that I never found in my playthrough.
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>>58878145
The only times I ever switch off the Xray Specs are for recruiting and item mining in RT, the latter of which the Tight Belt is best for. You don't even need that for item mining in DX since the Xray Specs actually show buried items.
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>>58878407
It's Better Odds, not Even Odds, sorry.
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>>58878461
Tight belt is definitely second place
Ignoring hunger is great when you're just trying to power through a dungeon to do rescues, and I like to use it on Lonely Courage runs as well, especially with ditto
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>>58878515
I never thought hunger was a big enough problem to devote an item to handling it. I’d rather just stock up on apples and use a held item that gives me a new ability. But I usually stayed out of long dungeons, and I can imagine hunger is a bigger issue in those.
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>>58878109
we joked around about making steve mystery dungeon, just taking the steve sprites from this jojoretrogamer hack, putting them in base pmd, maybe chanigng like 2 things and just calling it an original hack, but honestly i think it would go over most people's heads

also i'd rather kill myself than work on a fucking rahsee-like jesus fucking christ
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>>58878718
It's more of a rescue team dx thing, since hunger drains pretty quick in it
That and some of the longer dungeons have little to no food
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>>58877508
parents who didn't love her enough to beat her
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These are both supposed to be Charmanders. I don't get why some people design their OCs to look so drastically different from the normal design.
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>>58878976
My parents beating me made me a gay furry.
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>>58879208
What? You don't like seeing pokemon drawn so off-model that you can't tell what the fuck you are looking at?
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>>58879371
Meowth. That one's not a good example.
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>>58879208
>These are both supposed to be Charmanders.
I refuse to believe this is true.
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>>58879376
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>>58879371
He looks like he belongs in Solatorobo or something
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>>58879376
Come on now, that's clearly a dewott.
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>>58879334
that just means they didn't beat you hard enough
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My parents beat me and I became a Pokémon fan.
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>>58879371
This is a fucking Archie Sonic character not a Pokemon
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Bitching about the rest of the PMD community, I see. No new stories or art published to talk about?
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>>58879812
The hack scene has been getting shadow drop after shadow drop. About a week ago, some rando released their first hack, "Unlikely Heroes". The cutsene direction is quite horid, but the story is prety good and interesting. "Lonely Roads" part 8.24132 redux also launched, haven't played any of the, so I can't say much. Lastly, like 3 hours ago, another New hack droped, of course I haven't had the chance to play it, and wont for some time. I'd be cautious thoug, those 3 have worked on some turbo garbo hacks one was in "Nocturne of a Presumed Prodigy", a behond terribly balanced hack, and all 3 of them where featured in the making of "Concealed Turncoat". This may not even matter at all, the terible balance of the first hack can be atributed to a GTI speedruner who also worked in the hack, and the terrible everything of the second one should be atributed to Lobo/lobochaman.

The hack itself has a Typlosion/Flygon highbrid that looks like a Flygon with gamer back.
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>>58879839
At least the art for Lonely Roads looks nice, but could they seriously not come up with a better name?
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>>58879839
>ugly hybrid oc
>RIOLUUUUUUUU and shinx
>shitsel
I’ll just replay Sky again
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I get why it was called explorers of time and darkness (darkness being space). But why was the third version called sky?
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>>58880100
Explorers of Sky form Shaymin
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>>58880107
Well in any case, it's up in the air.
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>>58879652
Technically true, I couldn't be a furry if they just beat me dead. Joke's on them, they didn't and now they just have to deal with it. I blasted a fat load of spunk to Blaze the Cat porn less than an hour ago
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>>58880166
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>>58879906
I understand hating ugly hybrids and overused Pokemon, but what’s wrong with Sneasel?

>>58880100
Sky Peak, I guess
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Finaly got around to read some Clover Guild stories. Going author by author.
Togetic-Anon, the second music link in "Togetic's Mind-Bending Adventure" doesn't work, the channel got taken down.
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>>58879839
>Download a story hack and patch it
>Open up the ROM
>Edit in my favs over the shitty provided playables
>Play and enjoy
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>>58881124
You all have no right to complain about hack devs including pokemon you don't like
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>>58881378
who is this directed at? we need total team positive connotation death unironically btw if you use these characters you need to go evaluate if you're actually a pokemon fan or not or just a furry
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>>58881378
Oh but I'm not complaining. I'm addressing the problem.
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>>58881604
Da fuck do they all have 3 scarves each? Hate that the eevee name is yelled in all caps and the Vs and Ys looks nearly the same. Fucker's name now is Tvmoy-dev.
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>>58881378
why?
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>>58881630
nta but the joke here should be kinda obvious to anyone who's been around the pmd community for more than 5 seconds
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>>58881759
Why is that Shinx so nonplussed?
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>>58881759
>explorer hair gel
>do you know what those guys have in common...? ALL OF THEM ARE EXPLORERS!
This comic is pretty funny.
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>>58881830
He's self-aware.
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>>58881832
It’s so funny how Pikachu, despite being the mascot and one of the prime candidates for the “only played by furries” squad, managed to avoid it entirely )
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>>58881980
Literally too basic to be basic. It’s like playing as Mario in a Mario sports game.
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>>58881980
>>58881994
Eevee is technically in the same category, Eevee when paired with any of the 3 furry crew is normie-tier but when paired with literally anyone else or embraced in the holy Eevee-Pika duo Eevee becomes incredibly based.
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>>58882792
Just do it already
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>page 10
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>>58882057
Eevee and its evolutions have just been butchered by furries. It doesn't matter who you pair it with
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All Protagonist + Partner combos should share a type.
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>>58884791
There’s nothing wrong with type-mixing
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>>58884791
Double water would be busted. Water type heroes already have the advantage of extra movility through water tiles, but that's kept in check with your partner not being able to follow you if you use water tiles for shortcuts. Allow both the hero and partner to walk over water, and you'd be a fool not to go double water.
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>>58884791
One of those is also Psychic... so neutral to Fighting...
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>>58882792
same but starting instead of finishing
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>>58885061
Same but somehow with both
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>>58884791
The games specifically code it so that this shit doesn’t happen. It’s the opposite.
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>>58882792
Same but I actually gave up and like to lie to myself I'll eventually get back to it in a vicious cycle of depression.
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>>58884404
I love Eevee
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The artist confirmed it is a PMD reference
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>>58886183
I won't argue over no one thinking the bush could be hiding a stairway to inside the bluff. But did no fliying mon think to swoop in?
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>>58886235
Maybe they just assumed there was no way for hero/partner to get in there since they can’t fly either
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>>58886235
The protagonists and Pokémon in general seem unconcerned about insulation and others being able to enter their homes and seeing everything from outside. All the Rescue bases, the Gates' Paradise homes, and houses in Serene village don't even have doors.
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>>58887247
The Gates' Paradise home is partuculary egregious because visitors have to walk past it in order to access most of the facilities.
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>>58887268
Trying to act like you don't see the owners cuddling in their house on your way to Starmie's Sunken Treasure
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>>58887247
Cute toys
I wish I had those
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>>58887247
>>58887530
Those gotta be for R/BRT, and not DX. DX would have forced all starters to wear a bandana, so we wouldn't have headband torchick or pink bow Eevee/Chikorita.
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>page 10
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Up
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>>58887247
Man the original rescue team era really just totally replaced Bulbasaur with Chikorita, didn't they?
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>>58889050
Talk about an upgrade
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>>58888469
Look at the ears. That cap was designed to be only worn backwars lol
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>>58889688
What even is that mon spying on the bathers from the bushes? Looks kinna like a Dracozolt head, but not quite (and I guess an Arctozolt head too, but with no snot).
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>>58888469
She’s so cool…
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>>58889703
Looks like it's just the artist's signature.
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>>58887530
Same. I would love to have stuff like this
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>>58890475
>dead digger storage
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>>58890475
>walk towards guild wrong
>step through grate hole
>break leg
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>>58891490
The footprint check was always a really stupid idea
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>>58891512
Most likely the developers first came up with an idea for a mini-game where you identify Pokemon by their footprints, then shoehorned in the story to justify it.
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>>58891512
>diglett when the guildmaster fills in the hole and sets up a guardshack next to the front door
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>>58891512
>main way of screening mons before they enter the guild falls apart if more than 1 type of that pokemon ever exists
profound poketardation
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>>58891521
This, it doesn't help that the sentry game is incredibly obnoxious and everyone in the Guild uncharacteristically turn into assholes when it comes time for the players to do it.
>>58891532
Literally happened in game because they couldn't identify Dusknoir's footprint KEK
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>>58891521
Definitely
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>>58892004
He's now 16x weak to grass. A small price to pay for the ultimate cuteness.
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Grovylebros...
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>>58892393
It's OK, he likes to watch.
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>>58892393
Giving me flashbacks to the chikorita artist
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>>58892393
My hate for Grovyle x Dusknoir and Grovile x Celebi is so strong that it outweights my hate for this thing and then some.
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>>58892393
when she realizes fat niggas can lay pipe
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>>58892578
>the chikorita artist
Who?
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>>58892435
He's used to it
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>>58892875
artist with ugly art and unfunny jokes who draws nonstop grovyle x dusknoir
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>>58892912
>cucked by Tropius
>cucked by Darkrai
>cucked by Dusknoir
>cucked by Zarude
Our boy can't catch a break
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>>58893590
It's what he deserves for being the worst gen 3 starter
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>>58893581
Dumbass Magnemite can’t even use discharge kek
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Ahh... acknowledgement...
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holy shit new pmd confirmed
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>>58894112
we WON
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>>58894112
>NSO isn't enough
>you need to have the $50 a month deal for it
>doesn't even have skitty
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>>58894112
The eyes on some of them look uncanny with how they feature extra colors and shading that didn't end up on the sprites. Specially the case on Squirtle and Chikorita.
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>>58894157
PMD DX contains higher resolution versions of the portraits of gen 1-3 used in GTI and PSMD. Don't make us look at pixel salad
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>>58894797
They do a little trolling.
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>>58894112
Joe already seething about the thoughts of a new PMD game. God forbidd someone enjoys something else than the same recycled gameplay
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>>58888469
>page 10 again
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This year we'll... *cough*
get a n-new g-game... *wheeze*
f-for sure...! *dies*
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A lot of people shit on Chatot and Wigglytuff but nobody gives the Explorers hero the same shit, because they’re also retarded. Why did the Explorers hero ruin the Waterfall Cave discovery? In no way shape or form did it benefit them to expose the entire thing, it just made the partner’s day worse.
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>>58895734
It is your right and indeed your duty to occasionally make your little brother’s day worse for no reason.
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>>58895734
Anon, the Explorers hero is literally laid the fuck out by Skuntank the precise next day, so I think karma evens that out already.
And if you pick the 'bok bok bok' option (the canon option) then karma also kicks in again for the Apple Woods incident.
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>>58895734
>>58895804
People have perpetuated the myth that the Explorers hero is a nice guy because cowardly redditors and foids won’t dare to be mean to their partners but from everything official we’ve seen, between the anime special, the one promo comic with the Chimchar and Turtwig, and in game dialogue choices it looks like the Explorers Hero actually trends towards being a prick and I think out of all the heroes in the series the Explorers hero has the most justification to be one.
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>>58895928
Ok crystal cunt
Maybe you needed to get some friends to see how they are also pricks
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>>58896008
>seething partner simp
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>Legendaries get their shit punched in by a kid and someone who just learned how to fight recently
How do you fix that outside of just writing the main story to not have fights against the "higher-tier" legendaries?
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>>58896487
Make it so that Legendary boss fights have objectives that aren’t just a slug fest. The Legends can’t be beaten and hit like trucks but if you avoid their onslaught and complete mechanics you can win through other means.
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>>58896487
>>58896878
Yeah, take out the summoning stones, complete some side objective then escape, defend/distract until they can be sealed, etc.
Alternatively you could say they’re just fighting an aspect of Dialga, and thus only a fraction of his true power.
Or you could just let the kids kick Dialga around.
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>>58896487
The context for the story fights is usually that they're corrupted or berserk or whatever, and the postgame fight is their peak form. Of course, nothing is stopping you from doing the postgame fight as Luvdisc anyway...
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>>58896487
That's half the fun of them.
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>>58896487
Stun seeds are fucked up yo.
PMD is a classical rougelike, using items, equipment, and prep to make up for difference in strength is entirely on theme..
Tossing a single seed is probably too anticlimactic for a non-comedy story, but buffs, debuffs, and status effects can justify punching way out of a character's weight class. Especially with teamwork in the mix.
It's not like any working strategy against Primal Dialga in game is fair. It's either cripple him with debuffs, agility spam, or boof 12 reviver seeds.
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>>58848749
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