>>58874225
>What are you waiting for?
Nothing, just good ol' procrastination

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Why do you write?

>>58874225
>What are you waiting for?
Saving for a PC I guess, writing in my phone is hard. And maybe a gen 10 advance to know if canon is still worth something but after redeemed Lyssandre I'm not sure it is

We need more fics that include Elesa

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Found this bingo from a few threads back and fixed it up.
So Anon, what's a trope you enjoy even if it is a bit trashy? Alternatively, what trope really turns you off a story.

>>58874503
I kinda like Psychic-as-Translator as it helps bring some more focus onto the Pokemon. Can’t stand Aura for the opposite reason.
Absurd character bashing is at least funny, and it’s the kind of thing you can only find in fanfic. It’s like a personal stamp on the story by the author: “I’m the guy who has a ton of beef with Blaine, for some reason.”

>>58874503
>”Politics” and Burger Politics
What’s the difference?

>>58874538
>loicenses and bureaucracy
politics shows up 3 times

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>>58874538
It's what the original guy had on there, although I wouldn't replace licenses. I see politics as more like.
>You are courting death by defying the Legendary Blackthorn clan!
Instead of just bureaucracy. Maybe something like pokemon/human romance would be a good replacement?

>>58874591
What fic?

>>58874614
Well >>58874503 wasn't making a guessing game and neither was I, and I haven't found any fic that specifically has all of those tropes present, either one of them is absent or some other tropes I am neutral towards/dislike bleed in. I guess it would be my own fic, minus Betrayal because I'm just not sure how to work that in yet.

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>>58874658
Point taken, although no reason it can't be used as both.

>>58873529
Pokemon Mass Effect Dungeon

Alternatively:

You get a team made up of a pokemon for each of the six classes. What you picking? I'd have to make Venusaur my Sentinal.

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>>58874503
certain things are hard to judge, but generally anything well written is good and anything poorly written is bad

As far as the “BETRAYED” meme goes, is this strictly Ashfics or can OCs be BETRAYED as well?

>>58874745
Sure, why wouldn't it?

>>58874745
Anyone can be BETRAYED

>>58874503
I like wars and champions being more involved authority figures (military dictator is a bit much though). Bashing and discovering or doing anything that should be common knowledge is beyond shit though.

>TQ
Up until this past weekend, the inspiration. I had a few story ideas on the backburner that will remain there, but I got the spark to start something new and degenerate.
Begs the question, for those who write/read PMD fanfics, how do you view the dungeons themselves? Phenomena that randomly occur and take over an area? Structures that always existed in the world? Something else, perhaps? Every writer seems to have a different take on them and I like to see how others view them.

Edit new Pokémon chapter to get it ready for posting or write violent Rice Shower smut?

RICE SHOWER IS FOR TENDER HUGS AND POSITIVE AFFIRMATIONS YOU SWINE

speaking of Umamusume, what about a fic about Pokemon races?

>>58874303
No idea why the penguin meme has been popping up everywhere the past few days, but this was a nice chuckle.
>Why do you write?
I've always thought Pokemon could be so much more than what it chooses to be. For the longest time I believed in a generic shounen-y adaptation of game's plot would print money and was so confused as to why they never did it (kid's franchise, I know). So I finally got the balls to "be the change I want to see in the world," and I've been having a blast.

>>58874904
Is that not what the anime is already?

>>58874998
Shounen in the sense that it's targeted at adolescent boys. Think Naruto/One Piece in tone. Obviously I don't think it's gotta be gritty and edgy, but the anime's target audience is definitely much younger.

>>58874904
>>58874998
PokéSpe brahs, that's the closest you'll get and even then it sucks

>>58875025
Yeah, I went through my phase with Special. It's not great by any means, but closer to the tone I was hoping to see.

>>58874303
In general? It's the only thing I'm both half good at and enjoy, for pokemon specifically it's just something that I'm nostalgic for that I always thought had potential.
That and there's already a huge body of fanfic for me to sink my teeth into.

>>58874303
Nobody else is going to write my specific autism fuel / niche fetishes. And if the did, they might not do it as well.

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>>58875036
There's always Reburst too but, eeehhhh...

>>58875008
check Festival of Kings

>>58875222
I’ll check it out when I’m not balls deep in my own story or reading a threadbro’s

>>58874303
Because I can influence what the audience thinks and how information is presented. You can create entire worlds and play God that way, it's the ultimate sandbox.

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>>58874303
I started writing because I also wanted to make isekai journey-slop, but while writing it just felt so trite and I couldn't find a way of making it new in a way that others hadn't yet done. So I outlined what it would have looked like with all the beats and started writing at it's end with a new isekaijin, the character inverse of the first fully actualized protagonist, and went from there.

>>58875527
Pofag...

>>58874303
Because I needed to get the idea out of my brain

>>58874303
Because nobody was telling the story I wanted to read, so I'm making it for myself.

>>58874303
Mostly this >>58875572

Someone explain this to me, why is SI stuff so popular when all its modern readers used to shit on OCs? At the end of the day they're the same thing

>>58875569
No it's worse. It's Sellouts. lmao.

>>58875785
Because they make zany pop culture references and turn to look at the camera whenever something wacky happens like in the office

>>58875785
What's Cringe or Based in the public eye operates on a pendulum.
But mostly it's because SIs are typically "standard" humans and they don't treat the world with too much respect that it can make shallow readers uncomfortable(like >>58875838 said, basically Marvel-esque distancing)

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SI's don't definitionally have to be cringe
but most of them are
the core problem is most people, and almost all internet fanfic authors, are boring fucking people
the largest problem after that is that having an SI with pre-existing setting knowledge always makes for predictable and boring plots; they already know how it all ends
removes most of the stakes unless the author genuinely can write it so the villains are proactive when shit starts to butterfly
but most fanfic authors won't write themselves failing in any meaningful way
thus: dogshit abounds

this is why OC inserts, ie isekai, work so much better as a concept
even if most of those are shit as well
you're creating an actual character to punt into a setting, instead of putting your tubby lardass in

>>58875785
you made up a false problem and are asking why your made problem is a thing? It isn't.
>when all its modern readers used to shit on OCs
>At the end of the day they're the same thing

OC characters are boring in world people who are just regular folk. A self insert can flip the board and use otherworldly knowledge and meta knowledge to take advantage of the locals. There's also fish out of water. How does someone deal with the new culture, how do they adapt to clearly being unfamiliar with local rules and traditions and culture. It's a perfect world building tool for exploring everything, and lets you justifiably interfere with the story.

If your MC has nothing special about them, then the story is probably boring as shit. You could write the greatest journey fic ever with an OC character that doesn't interact with the actual content, and it'll be mediocre at best. If that character starts interfering with the OG characters and cast, then why are they doing that? They don't know who the MC is, they wouldn't have a reason for doing so except meta knowledge from the author. It comes off forced. Worse still: OC characters that have no idea about anything in their own world, as if they were from another world. 'reborn as a baby' stories have this issue where the MC seemingly did nothing for 10-15 years and has no knowledge about anything.

OC characters are often lame and gay and limit the author. An OC character in the original setting is often worthless. A SI isekai is just more fun for the reader and the community. It's enjoyable to see the clash of cultures. Also >>58875838 but unironically, there's nothing wrong with that.

We all know it's because OCs aren't monsters
>"Now's not the time to express regret!" I barked, silencing the old man. "You'll tell me what you did to me or else."

>He quickly gave up on explaining at my merciless gaze, merely bowing his head.

>"...I was not the one tasked with overseeing your progress. I only saw you occasionally… but from my understanding, we were tasked with injecting the cells of Mewtwo inside of you. I merely extracted those cells before giving them away."

>"What…?" Green said in horror. She glanced at me in horror and I had a carefully blank expression on my face.

>"Why?" I asked coolly.

>"I'm not aware of the reason why. It was not my jurisdiction," Fuji replied.

>"So which scientist's jurisdiction was it?" I pressed with narrowed eyes.

>"Please... I just. I just wanted to save my daughter," he said brokenly, gazing at me pleadingly. "I never intended for any of this..."

>I said nothing, staring at the tears forming in the old man's eyes with a tilted head.

>Then, I slowly walked up to him and placed a hand on his shoulder, leaning in to whisper into his ears.

>"I don't give a fuck about your daughter. Stop bringing her up like I care," I muttered cruelly.

>"If anyone asks, we don't know each other. If I find out you said anything before I speak to Blaine… You and him are gonna be in for a bad time," I pulled out my Pokedex and waved it, before shoving it in my pocket.

>"Thanks for your time, Dr. Fuji. Stick to caring for abandoned pokemon. You never know how much longer you'll be able to do it."

>"You're... you're a monster," he sobbed in defeat.

>Green whirled and glared at him with all the fury in the world but I simply looked back at him with a cold glint on my apathetic face.

>"Monster... I wonder if that's what you called me while experimenting on me

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>>58875876
and here we see the humble slop enjoyer proselytizing his views
he likes his meals with no gristle, no bones, no surprises

>>58875876
OK bro, read my fic and tell me why my OCs are bad then.

>>58875896
>humble slop enjoyer
You're reading pokemon fanfiction anon. You are already in the trough.

>>58875927
Because you didn't post it, thus it doesn't exist. I don't have 4chan Pass, so I can't see the IP address of each post and know who you are.

>>58875933
https://archiveofourown.org/works/59572648/chapters/151934926
Dig in man.

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>>58875929
nah, my read list is all high quality
if its shit I don't read it
if it becomes shit I stop reading it

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>>58875936
>Kuzey's shota stud genes will never activate and allow him to knock up the entire female cast
Feels bad man.

>>58875876
So in essence, meta knowledge (which is also something no SI Fallers and Reincarnators can have) gives them an easier path to becoming powerful and relevant, while also making it easier to deliver exposition.
Although I wouldn't say an OC character is worthless, you just have to give them a special trait aside from metaknowledge. Really Isekaijin tend to also have other differentiating qualities that set them apart, but they can take qualities from their own world that the writer can have be unique to them. N
utrition man is a prime example with his backstory as a zookeeper in the past life, or the glowie from BoD and his tropes knowledge. Of course that raises the question how people in universe aren't aware of these things. But I feel like most readers have the suspension of disbelief to ignore that sort of thing unless the narrative points it out as odd.
Although personally I'm not fond of reincarnator type Isekaijin, to me one of the upside of a child protag is that as a child, being vulnerable in ways an adult is not, there's more tension. But giving a child meta knowledge and the brain of an adult sort of deflates that tension a little.
Although I have to say, OC's can interact with the main plot and change things, just write them doing that in the story. Put them on a collision course with the antag, have them adventure with Ash and the gang if you want, really nobody is stopping you even if it might seem harder than writing an Isekaijin.

>>58876017
>(which is also something no SI Fallers and Reincarnators can have)
what? What does this mean and why did you spoil it? Are you saying that a SI can't have meta knowledge?

>easier path to becoming powerful and relevant
if that's your thing, sure. There are a billion garbage "SYSTEM" stories out there

>Of course that raises the question how people in universe aren't aware of these things. But I feel like most readers have the suspension of disbelief to ignore that sort of thing unless the narrative points it out as odd.
You seem to have some weird obsession about this. You're asking how the average person doesn't know Arceus is actually real and is the god of the world, or some obscure ancient secret? What are they supposed to do, go on the internet and look it up? The pokemon world is more complicated technically than Earth with the introduction of magic. Asking how the natives don't know something that you only know because of meta knowledge is odd. It's the exact opposite of what you're saying. It would be unbelievable if everyone knew all these things. It would also be boring as fuck.

>to me one of the upside of a child protag is that as a child, being vulnerable in ways an adult is not, there's more tension.
now you just sound like a pervert

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>it took e*rthlings 300,000 years to invent the wheel
Were they retarded? It's so simple?

>>58876076
>what? What does this mean and why did you spoil it? Are you saying that a SI can't have meta knowledge?
Oops, I didn't mean to put that no there, I meant it to 'a', I'm kinda tired right now,
>You're asking how the average person doesn't know Arceus is actually real and is the god of the world
That's not what I was saying, my example was the protag from BoD, who uses his knowledge of tropes. I was saying, 'if these tropes are essentially laws of the world, doesn't it make sense people would know about them.' At the same time, I don't think it's too important if something like that comes up. Besides I don't think knowing Arceus is god would change the DPP plot that much, people are already trying to stop team galactic since their evil and an OC has plenty of reasons to try to stop most villainous gangs.
But of course not everyone has to no these thing.

>>58876094
Why should I use this instead of cutting down a few trees and just rolling my stuff over that?

>>58876099
doesn't make sense with an "a" in that sentence either
can ya just type what ya meant?

>>58876135
Sure, which is also something a Faller or Reincarnator can have. i.e meta knowledge

>>58876099
>tropes
If your honestly using BoD, a story about having sex with lucario and making memes about tropes as an example of isekai, then idk what to tell you. The only answer I can come up with is normal people don't see it or attribute it to another phenomena. Remember, aura isn't some massively known thing either.

>>58876160
Isn't aura basically just magical martial arts? I imagine there might be some aura users around, but from my point of view I don't understand why a person would write an isekaijin instead of an OC who knows aura. That said, it's not like it's a deal breaker from a reading point of view, I just don't understand why a person would write it.

>>58876167
>Isn't aura basically just magical martial arts?
You start every post with a false assumption.

>>58876125
Because there's not a lot of trees in the desert or the steppe where you're going to invent the wheel retard. But there's more, you can actually attach these wheels to a big basket you can place yourself and your shit on, and have it be pulled by a four legged slave creature as a cheat power

>>58876174
I mean, that what aura is isn't it, it's magic?

>>58876175
If I'm in a desert or steppe, I could just drag that shit. Grass and sand have low friction.

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>>58876138
thanks, the spurious "SI" was tripping me up and I didn't want to assume
its also possible to give a non-isekai OC meta knowledge, either through time travel shenanigans (came back to fix shit) or being the right man in the right place at the right time to hear something they shouldn't have

or in the most entertaining way: the story is a quest
so the OC has no knowledge, and now the readers have to try and work their imperfect meta knowledge against whatever changes the QM and their own actions make in the world
the mindgames can be exquisite to see with a good QM

>>58876167
>aura basically just magical martial arts
It's basically the force, sealing, healing, precognition, barriers and resonance with Pokémon and even ghosts going by that gay scene posted a few threads ago

>>58876200
You fool. While you're busy dragging your shit I'm riding my wheeled basket AND holding a bow/spear, which means I can easily steal your shit (and your bitch) and take it back with me without breaking a sweat. You thought wheels were the WEAKEST when they're actually the STRONGEST

>>58876247
NOOO! HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN
CHARIOTS IMBA
MODS! PLS NERF!

>>58876247
>using wheeled baskets instead of revavroom and cyclizar
>using bows/spears instead of honedge and clawitzers
this must be that multiverse thing people were talking about

>>58876263
Counterpoint: you don't have to feed a spear, or a bow, or a chariot, or beat them savagely and condition them when they're young to obey your orders. If only humanity had access to some sort of magical capsule device that could instantly turn the monstrous and demonic beasts that plague our world into servile pets, perhaps things would be different...

>>58876298
>that could instantly turn the monstrous and demonic beasts that plague our world into servile pets, perhaps things would be different
They just shrink bro, everything else is plasmafag cope

>>58876298
>he thinks the soldier, the weapon crafter, the cart crafter, the lumberjack, and the miner do not need be fed
Pokemon are logistics cheat code; you get the soldier, the weapon, the mobility, and the resource gatherers all in one. As for beating them savagely, have you tried using the power of human dick to convert them? It's unbeatable.
>you don't have to feed a [...] chariot
Who's pulling the chariot though lol

>>58876368
Why do the pokeballs NEED to be made out of apricots then? Shouldn't you be able to store them in any type of small container?

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>>58876258
canonically stronger than god

>>58876407
Because shrinking needs life energy to trigger, and in old fashioned pokeballs that life energy comes from apricots instead of pokemon and is triggered by the tumblestone instead of circuits.
Source: Modern pokeballs are made with harvested pokemon's life energy, apricots are plants that are/were alive, connect the dots.

>>58875785
I thought SI means the MC is the author's persona

>>58874303
Dunno honestly, I just do whenever a particular idea refuses to leave my head or motivates me enough to actually sit down and write, especially if it's something that I really want to see but know no one will actually write it (which makes the fact that I'm incapable of bringing myself to read my own stories pretty ironic).

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>Arceus is handing out power ups like candy
Aura? Psychic? Magic? Inferior to god's chosen

>>58876510
humiliation ritual?

>>58876510
It's called faith

>>58876510
>God gave Misty a bust upgrade

>>58876532
Only through humiliation can you attain God's divine candy.
>>58875806
Feel free to add your fic to the collection. https://archiveofourown.org/collections/vpfanfictionthread

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>>58876570
She's just bigger in Mastersex

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>>58876464
SI means the MC is the AUTHOR
OC is any sort of constructed character not normally in the setting
then theres Character-In-Name-Only, where a canon character is altered to the point where they're an OC nintendies does this themselves fucking constantly
this can either be a good or bad thing, depending Entirely on the authors skill

>>58876599
>where a canon character is altered to the point where they're an OC
That's inevitable for characters that have like five speaking lines in the game

>>58876607
He's talking about MCs like Ash, Naruto, Harry Potter or even side characters like Sakura, Orihime and so on.

Btw PokéSpe fans do think their characters are the canon characterization so if you use the same name as the manga they will call it in name only like what happened with Blue in LGPE

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>>58876610
yep, side characters too
the Dawn I posted is a perfect example of a character in name only

>>58875490
^this
Nobody's gonna write the fic i have in my head but me, and if they do write a similar one then it's a coinflip for it to not be shit

>>58876621
Mitsumi is hella underrated.

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>>58876706
evil dawn goes hard
shame the rest of that trainwreck is ass and butt

charmander is fucking retarded fire on tail is stupid forests will be on fire constantly

what were they thinking?

>>58876809
Rapidash fire manes don't burn their riders.
Slugma doesn't ignite everything around him or melt surfaces he crawls on.
Likewise, Charmander tails don't burn unless they want it to.
How does it work?
Magic. Snort snort.

>>58876809
charmander don't live in forest, they live in volcanic areas duh

>>58876812
slugma deez nuts

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>>58873181
>>58873194
>>58873231
That's likely me.
>Clair is what made me like rich tsunderes, I'll do my best.
Immaculate taste, anon.
I wish you the best.

>>58876094
>playing god
You will unga your bungas and you will like it.

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>>58876449
>mfw I was isekai'd into the bible and invented modern day cars to Mad Max God's chosen

>>58876510
Brock looks sick here. Hell yeah.

>>58876232
That does sound entertaining, the voters torn between various actions due to meta knowledge. And this is coming from someone who typically doesn't find meta knowledge all that interesting as a plot device.
I guess my problem is more with the assertion that OCs are boring as a rule and somehow making them Isekaijin makes them more interesting, when I don't consider being an Isekaijin particularly interesting.

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Arceus needs to reset humanity and set down laws against ind*strialization like the fungi goddess from Avatar did. Humanity should just be one more Pokémon species, not the dominant life form on the planet

>>58877311
Sounds like an interesting idea for a post-apoc setting. Will this finally be the fic where the MC teams up with Regigigas and kills Arceus?

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Wrote a second part to my Team Rocket fanfic. Set pre-RGB. Turned out okay but I think my first story was stronger. Don't know if I'll ever post it anywhere, just doing it for myself. Still fun.

>>58877525
Glad you're enjoying yourself.

>>58877525
>just doing it for myself. Still fun.
That's all that matters, really.

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>>58877254
yep, I'm not the original guy you were replying to
meta knowledge is a poisoned fruit, and needs precision writing to get around. like all prophetic knowledge, it needs to be imperfect and easily disrupted. every action we take alters the futures course and decision, a villain who doesn't react to such is merely a cardboard cutout
a story that glides from station of canon to station of canon is a slog, nothing more
and I see it far more often with SIs, possibly out of some narcissistic desire on the authors part to place themselves in their favorite stories events. such works can be discarded without care
that original poster >>58875876 was without imagination or spark, "an OC must be regular folk", don't make me laugh. as if the average SI author isn't an ur-example of mediocrity in their regular life.


I'm fairly certain I've seen ulcers develop realtime in the voting base of a quest, but in a cooperative way rather than a competitive way
the adversary is the world the QM has setup, afterall
and of course, the constant competition to troll the absolute fuck out of the QM

I remember when Cara Liss was hated

How do you think a Frieren-style story in the Pokemon universe work?

>>58878061
Immortal wanderer? You just need to shift the focus ti AZ or Volo so yes, it can work

>>58878071
Doesn't have to be immortal, just a "post-game" protagonist or champion that lost their position. First thing that came to mind was Steven taking some young Draconid under his wing and accompanying them on their journey. I'm sure Steven has tons of history throughout Hoenn.

>>58878061
Isn't Pokemon anime just that already? Journey plot with characters of the day?

>>58878104
I think he means after the whole journey, like Black helping a kid become champion while looking for N or Ash being the traveling companion to someone

>>58877575
>possibly out of some narcissistic desire on the authors part to place themselves in their favorite stories events.
that's an exaggerated accusation. It's called Fanfiction anon, people put themselves in the story and change things. not Sorry if that offends you.
>such works can be discarded without care
99% of fanfictions are worthless with a large portion of them being effectively a single scene or idea wrapped into a poor short story, or just softcore porn disguising itself as fanfiction, or just woefully incomplete after the initial setup of the story like few chapters, sometimes up to 20, before being dropped before any actual events in story occur. The number of stories worth reading that actually go anywhere are quite few and are buried, and they don't fit into these overbearing assumptions and memes everyone throws around.

Seeing people complaining about tropes when the stories they take the tropes from are objectively garbage to begin with is just stupid and dishonest.

>>58878156
True enough, nearly any idea can be good if written well.

>>58878193
even the shittiest idea can be made gold if the author puts quality and depth into the work.
Finding a story that is executed beautifully, but then abruptly stops is the worst

I like to think of them as "shower fictions". Fiction ideas someone came up with in the shower, wrote down the general idea of in a few chapters or so, and then moved on. Not sure if there's another name for the phenomena.

>>58877660
I still hate her and those dumb fossils.
>>58878061
Easily. A wandering mentor-student pair where the mentor tries to reconnect with “normal” life would essentially be a slightly tweaked journeyfic.

>>58877660
I still love her and those dumb fossils.

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>>58877660
If I kill a bunch of Pokémon and strategically place their bones in her retarded fossil machine could I design an ultra powerful fusion of my choice?

>>58878841
She'd do it for shit and giggles, just ask her

>>58877022
Thanks, progress has gone pretty well and I've finalized the first chapter after adding a few more thing to chapter 1. I'll probably periodically update the Reentry with new chapters until as I work on them on the background.
Once I get to chapter 5 and have some time to focus on the fic, I'll look into posting it on various sites.

Writebros, do you have any movie or book scenes that you take inspiration from? For me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL7iLOGD9-E

>>58879595
Damn, glad my mom isn't like that on drugs.

What's a character detail about your OCs that you didn't plan and only discovered by writing them?

Mine was that as a side effect of being an attentive caretaker of his Pokemon, my MC would have to be a pretty decent cook.

>>58879678
NUTRITION is on the bingo for a reason

>>58879595
https://youtu.be/VvjQe83greI?si=n7DjS0BldeFO61jf
Is it weird I feel legitimately bad for my MC because he’s going to have to go through this? Or at least, get to the point where he has to.

>>58879678
Came to a scene where he needed a hobby and from that day forth he was a fisherman.

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>>58879595
Now that I think about it, no. But if I had to pick my favorite movie scene it would be from Kung Fu Hustle.
https://youtu.be/XePRxozV1yY?si=0UhqAkNYnanJ1Bxi

>>58879678
He got facial paralysis after a traumatic brain injury. It's my cope for realizing that I've been describing everyone else emoting except him.

>>58879595
Dune, basically all of it, but specifically the scenes where Paul has to prove himself and where his prescience is evolving.

What's your stance on held items in trainer battles? Finally getting around to including them in the setting in preparation for the arc-ending fight I want to use them in

>>58880942
Outside of Megastones and Z-crystals(which are required for mega evolutions and Z-moves respectively) , I think held items give more character to the Pokémon themselves.

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>>58880942
can they carry guns too?

>>58880942
>Official league/gym fight
Cheating, say whatever cope you want about the games enforcing that it won't change my mind
>Real fights as a mean of self-defense
100% legal

>>58880942
First four badges are without because not everyone is going to have them starting out, last four badges have items because you need to be ready for them.

>>58880942
keep the limit of 1 as a cultural / rules thing
have some sort of means for pokemon to "hold" them even if they realistically couldn't, voltorb and such
hold items add too much strategy and prep to discard; just handwave their effects as weird poke-magic + schizo tech and you're golden
how the fuck does a Bronzor eat?
don't worry about it

>>58881069
This would go under the realm of "real fights," so I'm having them be fair game. I probably wouldn't have the Choice items as they're too limiting for the battles I'm hoping to have.

>>58881148
I'm being pretty picky with the hold items I use (the weather/terrain extenders seem fine), even the type gems. But the more ridiculous ones are a no go at this point.

To add onto the question, as a reader, does each item need to be different or could there be three of the same if called for? IE the trainer has four Fire Types, they'd have multiple Pokemon with the "Water attacks less effective" berry.

I am begging you to stop having trainers call every single attack. Your fanfiction isn’t an RPG and it isn’t an anime padding for time.
This four-way battle in Szingy is getting rough

>>58881176
But anon, then how would you make the trainer relevant in a written work?

>>58881156
>multiple Pokemon with the "Water attacks less effective" berry
just seems like a good strategy, especially with how you can grow more berries from a single one
it'd make sense to have many berries

Do you guys remember to replace fruits/veggies mentioned in your fic with the equivalent berry?

>>58881176
in most weeb settings I'd agree but in Pokemon that's all the chracters actually do. otherwise they're just standing there and watching

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>>58881211
by having them, y'know, actually TRAIN the pokemens
calling out every attack is kiddy league shit; have your characters work out plans, strategies, combinations, it can even be something you do during a fade to black, so you can surprise the reader
then put that into play during the actual matches

>>58881269
aura farming is a legitimate strategy

>>58881211
>>58881211
Trainers are coaches. They do a lot of work out of battle and give general strategy advice inside it. They can also have feelings and reactions to a match. If that sounds boring to you then your MC should be Little Mac and not Doc Louis.

>>58881176
I think this truly depends on the level of sentience you give Pokémon in your setting.

Realismfag is that you?
>Pokémon are mindless animals so they should fight through instinct instead of orders.
You know some military units are divided between those that plan and call the shots and the ones that pull the trigger?

>>58881482
I’m mostly complaining about how it reads.
>”Murkrow, use Night Slash!”
>Murkrow slashed at the Magnezone
That’s not really from the fic but it’s close. There’s a lot of repeated information that makes the whole thing feel like a slog.
>The trainers kept barking orders as Murkrow slashed at the Magnezone
This way described the action as it happens, rather than just saying the same thing twice. You could still say specific orders from time to time, but literally every move reads so bad.

>>58881176
>>58881304
writing a fic like that rn

>>58881176
Nah, shouting attacks are a great tool for controlling the pace of a battle. Of course like anything it can be done poorly.

I like to have both combatants shout orders at the same time as we get to watch how those commands play out. Keeps each 'turn' so to speak easier to follow.

>>58881538
>>58881176
I get it, this is the thing that really had me struggle to write a pokemon fic for quite sometime. A 'standard league battle', (whatever that is lol), with two trainers standing on opposite ends of an empty arena as they bark orders out seemed hard to write. Even when removing the flat terrain and adding in a new environment I struggled.
It's what put me off writing a journey/champion fic, even if I know I could just write around them it irked me. Although that's just my struggles, I need to read more pokefic to see how other authors have dealt with the issue.

>>58881292
Yeah, but the strategy of battle is something pokemon aren't adept at. A Blastoise spamming hydro cannon as the enemy keeps popping protect may struggle to intuit that their strongest attack is never going to succeed. Or that the weird dark type move that doesn't come naturally to them is a better fit against an opponent. Trainers calling attacks should be about strategy and emotion, of course unga bunga attacking is going to be boring.

>>58881571
This, and not even mentioning stat buffs, physical/special defenses, shit like Trick Room... Hyper-intelligent Pokemon would get this, but then you run into trainers not being necessary, since if Pokemon are intelligent enough to put all of that together, they don't need a human to tell them to how to be better.

Although I understand the gripe with battle structure. And yeah, shouting "dodge" every other command as if the Pokemon wouldn't try to instinctively get away from something harmful is nonsensical.

>>58881558
>>58881611
There was an earlier example from Syzygy I actually did like. Cyrus says something like
>Sneasel, go around and advance through his attacks
And then the battle just plays out for a few paragraphs as Sneasel executes that game plan. Cyrus calls the play, Sneasel decides how to execute the play in the moment. That’s how I would do things if a trainerfic ever pops into my brain.

>>58881176
anon having an autism attack

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>>58881231
Gen 8 ruined that

An Alakazam should be able to be a trainer.

>>58881611
>shouting dodge
Depends. For most trainers it would be a sign of being bad, but higher level trainers might counter attack instead.

Having a narrator explain the complexity of simple situations is good. They can be an in story narrator like a sportscaster, or just in writing, or in the mind of the trainer (though in the mind of the trainer is overused in my opinion and becomes a cheap excuse to have the character go "SHIT" without saying it out loud).

>>58881888
That's why we ignore everything gen 8 onwards.

>>58881888
nah just think of the berries as a mix of medicinal herbs and fruits
other food exists, berries just got unique effects
they ain't eatin berries 24/7, and other foods have existed since Gen 1

>>58881938
Forgot to add I'm trans btw

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>>58882045
>tfw you want a sandwich but they ain't found a bread berry yet

>>58881211
make the Pokemon trainers "Pokemon Trainers". Have the Pokemon use what they learn form their trainers and use their intellect and experience to win battles; only for said trainer to tell them to stop once the opposing monster is KO'd. Make the monster battle a personal one to build upon their character.

>>58882045
Sure, but it's still stupid Leppa berries and normal apples existing in the same setting

>>58882117
Leppa berries don't look like apples anon

>>58882121
You could say that with Nanabs and bananas instead. My headcanon is that Nanabs taste like banana flavored candy.

>>58881888
I have a feeling that Applin and their evolutions were a call back to the PMD games, namely the Apples used for the Hunger machanic.

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>>58882125
My headcannon is tomato berries taste like being beaten to death by hammers

>>58882182
Why are the tomato analogues spicy as fuck

>>58882117
So what, to replace all fruits and vegetations with battle berries? We already have the whole Pokémon are Fauna of the world.

>>58881899
Pokemon can either Fairies and trolls, or wild animals; yet humans continue to be the dominant species.

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What happens if you eat an Enigma Berry? What's it taste like?

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>>58881899
>People used to mistake Oranguru for a human when they saw it issue command after command to the other Pokémon of the forest.
>It normally spends its time meditating in the treetops. It throws Poké Balls and gives other Pokémon orders as it pleases.
>Known for its extreme intelligence, this Pokémon will look down on inexperienced Trainers, so it’s best suited to veteran Trainers.

MOGGED by CHADranguru btw.

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>>58882197
That's RSE Berry used as a place holder for E-reader Berries; Now it's Spicy with a hint of Salt.

>>58882197
It's like one of those mystery candies, it's taste changes and warps depending on when, how, where, and who eats it.

>>58880942
I treat it sort of like D&D attunement to magical items. It takes a bit of effort to attune to a magical item that's already attuned to something else(can be circumvented with thief/etc), and the amount & quality of items that a pokemon can attune to depends on their own ability.
As for items that wouldn't technically need attunement, like berries, I treat them as legally requiring attunement for official matches. Even vanity items legally require attunement. Basically, if it doesn't get sucked into the pokeball together with them then it's not legal in a league match.

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>>58882207
Basically, one of these berries

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>>58882197
>hey Fred, give me a berry with extra enigma
>extra enigma
>and add the power of the stars
>the power of the stars?

>>58881211
Aside from the other comments about trainers being trainers, using intellect and experience, I like the idea of there being some supernatural bond humans can form with pokemon that allows a pokemon true potential to be realized.

>>58882197
>people criticize aura users
>meanwhile berries are cultivating the celestial dao of the heavens

>>58882208
>Needs attunement
Makes sense for official battles/matches. I'm realizing now my fic doesn't include any of those. The big fights are all more or less unofficial and outside any sort of governing structure. Having the item be with the Pokemon inside the ball itself would be way less clunky when it comes to writing a battle (especially a full 6 on 6 one). It's PoPT so post-societal collapse for the win

>>58882216
>I like the idea of there being some supernatural bond humans can form with pokemon that allows a pokemon true potential to be realized
Pretty sure that's the entire justification for the premise of the franchise, so you'd be correct.

Just had a stroke of worldbuilding genius off people discussing held items earlier. X-Stat pills, battle items, etc. have to be manufactured by a corporation to be around in such wide varieties.

>>58882233
>The big fights are all more or less unofficial and outside any sort of governing structure.
I salute you, my fellow comrade in the war against the internal pokemon association's official battling rules, Pofag.

>>58882253
Wait, you didn't know that?

>>58882253
A?
MULTIPLE

WITH FUCKING FANBOYS AND SHILLS

>>58882264
>No bro Devon’s X Speed is way stronger than Silph’s
>What do you mean they all have the same active ingredients as the generic brand?
>If they weren’t twice as good they wouldn’t be twice as expensive.

>>58882260
>Wait, you didn't know that?
I mean, I KNEW, but it wasn't something that warranted much thought before about how consumer goods and battle items are sourced when all the stores you purchase them are homogenized. But now that I need to explain how a company rose to prominence, a whole slew of brands that don't have a canon source is a goldmine.

>>58882264
"It's all a conspiracy man. The supplement corporations gotta have Leon stay undefeated because he's their biggest spokesman. All of the trainers who look to up him will pay for the bogus 'vitamins' no matter how overpriced they become. That's why I only use organic blends. One of my buddies used to be on a trainer team that raided Dynamax dens and he noticed their boss kept taking all of these special blue candies they'd find, and he swore he saw Leon feeding them to his own Pokemon. Few days after he told me, the guy disappeared. These corporations will do ANYTHING to keep their golden boy perfect. They even sent Mustard, a former champion and Leon's own teacher to the Isle of Armor to keep him silent, man. They'll stop at nothing!"

>>58881231
Regular plants and trees are still a thing though.
>All those generic trees/shrubs/grasses/flowers we see
>Lemons needed for Lemonade
>Possibly tea plants needed for tea
>Possibly grains used for flour for cookies/poffins/Brock's jelly donuts/etc
>>58882178
Apples were also used in the OG Pokemon Snap.

>>58874503
why is half of this Born of Caution and why do i feel called out for liking it?

Any fics with pregnancy involved?

>>58882285
are ya out of your fucking minds?
Exceed's the original X-Speed, not all those damn dittos
always go with the original!

>>58882203
fake news

>>58882356
BoC is/was hugely influential, these are mostly Isekaijin tropes anyways. Besides some of these are just common, even then things like a specifically underage harem aren't mentioned. Although like with the redundant politics spaces it might overlap too much with normal harem.
Either way I think Jordino and PRB might have some more tropes to mine.

>>58882356
>why is half of this Born of Caution
Because that writer knew what tropes it took to succeed and he strove for it.
The Bingo could use a rework though, it's got a few overlapping tiles.

>>58882371
Does Isekaijin mean “isekai written by gaijin” or “the isekai protagonist is a gaijin in the new world?”

>>58882379
All isekaiers are gaijin to their new world, so they get called isekaijin. It combines the two words into one for optimal xenophobia and to poke fun at the genre.

>>58882379
I'm using it to mean any isekaied person, since their a foreigner from the world they isekai into, a foreigner who'd been isekaied. An Isekaijin. Isekaied person doesn't roll of the tongue and isn't funny, while a term like reincarnator, SI, or Faller is too specific.

Basically what >>58882386 said.

>>58882379
人
-jin suffix as in person, like saiya-jin or nihon-jin

>>58882356
also, related to my question. This is my first time here and i just finished reading boc (its my first pokemon fanfic)

I read the thread and have a vague idea of a slice of life author-self-insert fics not liked here for their mediocrity

Is there any list of pokefics i can use or at least one more example of a renowed good fic?

I just dont wanna yakuza-0 myself again if you know what i mean

sorry for the loaded question

>>58882427
>Good?
Good fics? Well there is THE LIST
>Borne of Caution
>I Will Touch the Skies
>Pokemon Trainer Vicky
>These Silver Eyes
>The Most Evil Trainer
>Pokemon Jordinio Version
>The New Normal
>Hard Enough
But these are more influential than good.
You can also check out the ao3 collection for the thread: https://archiveofourown.org/collections/vpfanfictionthread/works
And somebody (me) posted a WIP last thread: https://rentry.org/pkmnmhgny
Other than that I've heard Hyphen and Tanya the Chansey mentioned on ao3. There's also A Murder-Fox's Pokemon Journey also from Ao3 which I've been meaning to check out. All three of them have pokemon MCs instead of human ones, but they aren't as influential as THE LIST.

>>58882427
What kind of story are you looking for?

>>58882433
Thats more than i could ever ask for, thanks anon. Many sleepless nights await

>>58882439
If you try The Most Evil Trainer then keep in mind that it's recommended even by people outside of this thread to stop reading it at a certain point. I think that point is shortly after the tournament ends? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
The story's gold up until the point, then it turns to shit.

>>58882436
I probably would stay away from the ones that have no plot except for the slice of life, again my only point of reference right now is BoC so im pretty short sighted right now.

Im interested in stories that have thrill, that dont have everything handed to MC at a silver platter. Thats probably the only thing i can surely describe right now

>>58882447
I will keep that in mind, thanks

>>58882447
No, that's I want to touch the skies. Author actually trooned out after writting like 10k words a day for 2 years. After a certain point it becomes an endless series of "what gay trope can I shove in next" and "the MC always loses important fights from now on"

The most evil trainer was canned for the MC being suddenly revealed to be a 34 year old homosexual pedo who's whole goal is to go back to groom his adopted son on earth with his fag partner

>>58882455
Checked some older threads and found these. >>58523944 >>58523965 >>58523983 >>58524000
I quickly looked through my collection and compiled these stories.

>https://archiveofourown.org/works/13875483
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/14692875
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/22569919
The first two are classics. Very long adventure drama stories involving all the gen 1-4 Dexholders fighting evil to save the world. Tries to stick to canon. Later stories inclide the gen 5-7 Dexholders. Lots of great action and melodrama with some death. There is shipping. Characters like Blue (the girl) and most after gen 3 aren't written that well. The author's pet is Platinum, which might hurt your experience if you already hate her for being a Mary Sue. The author also starts hating random characters and switching opinions on ships later on, so they just disappear from later stories.

>https://archiveofourown.org/works/13667028
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/14169204
Written by the same author as above. These are also long ensemble cast stories with all the Dexholders, but this time they're in episodic joke or shipping situations. A lot of the chapters can be funny, but I can't remember if they were actually any good. Again a lot of these are classics.

>https://archiveofourown.org/works/2746598/chapters/6156842
Very long Battle Royale/killing game story featuring all the Dexholders up to gen 6. Lots of action, drama, death and some gore. Some Dexholders are more in character than others, especially the gen 4-6 guys who get the short end of the stick, but otherwise it's not too bad. There's some shipping but it's not the main focus.

There's a bunch of others in those linked post but it's too much to fit cleanly here, you can check the archive on b4k for the full list.

>>58882455
>thrill
If you’re interested in Mystery Dungeon, I think Mimiga’s stuff is very thrilling (and kinda angsty). The Ears trilogy is great, haven’t read his new thing. They’re all on Ao3

>>58882484
It can be both. I lurk another community and they've also said that TMET falls off after a point and should be dropped. 'Course they're usually not brave enough to make a big mention of the MC's reveal as a 34 year old homopedo, but even aside from that the story does fall off massively past a point.

>>58882486
Wow, thats a lot, holy shit!
A big thank you, anon. Sorry dont know what else to say lol.

>>58882497
noted, thank you

Have to make a big list of all these fics to read lol didnt expect so much help, i thought somebody just gonna call me a retard as usual and move on

>>58882500
Most evil trainer is like 29 chapters long, finishing it is trivial.
IWTTS is like 300 chapters and becomes nearly unbearable at 200~

I would finish MET so you can have context. The ending is literally "I guess the most evil trainer is the one who abandons their pokemon." pure kino

>>58882486
>Dexholders
Nta but I fucking hate that

>>58882455
>that dont have everything handed to MC at a silver platter
This might as well be shouting out "In Mine Own" and "Prince of Po Town" from a rooftop. Those are regularly updated threadfics in the collection linked >>58882433

You're getting bombarded by a ton recommendations (a lot more than usual when people ask). Been in these threads a while and haven't seen these linked >>58882519 Never read 'em so I have no idea of quality.

>i thought somebody just gonna call me a retard as usual
Oh we will, only when you say you like anything you were recommended.

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>>58882117
>Lemons and limes shouldn't exist in the same setting

>>58882551
>Been in these threads a while and haven't seen these linked
This was meant for >>58882486

>>58882197
It's spicy, dry, sweet, bitter, and sour. It says right there anon.

>>58882553
I looked them up and they look pretty old, not sure if im gonna include them in my list you guys recommended.

>>58882551
I will add those as well, many thanks!

If the price of having a good time, is getting retarded then i wont regret a second of it!

>>58882427
Being contrarian and hating on popular thing has always been culture on this site. BoC is good but people will always have their gripes (rightfully) about some parts of it. The pokephilia parts and the bag chasing in particular have been talked about ad nauseam here.
There's also >>58882371. Popular tropes are popular for a reason, and the oversaturation and under cooked execution of them is what gets some people turned off from it.

>>58882360
>have huge pregnancy fetish
>used to run a legend of zelda quest on pregchan
>need to keep my sfw account clean so I don't end up just being the pregnancy guy
>make pregnancy a huge secret plot point of my fic anyway[/spoler]

>>58882567
by bag chasing do you mean the author begged/ing for donations? Im not engaging with the community during the reading, plus the fic itself is already a bit aged like wine so i assume i most probably missed EVERYTHING drama/speculating/bashing etc etc

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Got this a few days back, deleted it cuz I don’t want a culture war in my comments. Anyone else getting this?

>>58882619
Just another bot post, seen the exact same post on some fetish fics

>>58882619
Reads like a false flag troll bot lmao.

>>58882619
Annoying as always bots I posted it last thread but here's a comprehensive list of them.
https://fanlore.org/wiki/AO3_Comment_Bots
The culture war bots are newer

>>58882455
I'd recommend To Live is to Dream for sure then
MC is a homeless street urchin who is more interested in the free meal and room that comes with going on a pokemon journey, at the start
she finds her dream along the way, while battling her inner demons
its in Quest format btw

you might also like Hyphen and A Backwards Grin, both are Pokemon POV

How would you play Surge's military past in a world without guns?

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>>58882572
based

>>58882749
Whatever you imagine the military of a nation would be in the Pokémon world, he was that and became too legit to not get hired as a gym leader.

>>58882572
>I'm into skirts with pantyhose
>Yummy thighs
>But every Pokémon female uses pants or shorts and are sticks outside of like 3 women
And now I'm sad

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>>58882762
Thats why off model is god.

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>>58882197
I know it has a flavor profile in some of the games, but I like to think of it as white airhead flavored.

What do you remember as your favorite battles in Pokémon fanfiction you’ve read?

I’ll go first. It’s in in BoC, the Lee vs. Moore fight.

>>58882197
Datura seed

>>58882864
In Traveler the Entei fight and Ash's murder boner was pretty kino

>>58882864
>>58882877
I liked the Sydney fight in Traveler. Though funnily enough I thought that Phoebe fight right after was really dull.

>>58881148
Write a scene where bronzor psychics the berry in the air and rubs it on his own face

>>58881546
Same, is it THAT bad?
>>58881176

>>58882318
Poffins are just berries and water according to the anime

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>>58881611
>shouting dodge

>>58882196
Pokemon are smarter than humans because they get their trainers to do taxes

>>58883029
>Inb4 my shout gets dodged
F

>>58882566
Only because I feel the need, here are some pitches on the threadfics regularly talked about. (I haven’t read Spice and Fox but if the author wants to drop a blurb I’ll add it to the collection).

https://archiveofourown.org/works/59572648
In Mine Own
Young trainer from Paldea returns to his family's old home in Kalos after his parents mysteriously disappear, and runs into a strange girl being hunted by a criminal organization. MC's starter is a Charcadet.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/63874153
A Crazed Creation
Several antagonistic souls with no memory awaken within the mind of a newborn Gibble and try to guide it towards some dark destiny that none of them understand. A violent Mystery Dungeon setting of medieval warfare.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/66210784
Prince of Po Town
A Faller gets isekai'd to an alternate Alola torn apart by a Legends Arceus style ultra wormhole crisis, gets picked up by Team Skull, and fumbles into turning the gang's fortunes around. MC's starter is a Deerling.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/63406333
Crystal Light
A knight and his Blastoise set off on a journey to save the world after the awakening of an ancient evil pokemon nearly tears the kingdom apart, taking on the mantles of the prophesized Warriors of Light. Medieval fantasy adventure, a retelling of the plot of Final Fantasy 1 but with pokemon.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/66247705
PokeNormal: Tales from the Celadon Extranormal Detective Agency
An assistant detective at an agency that deals with spooky pokemon phenomenon realizes that his boss has been erased from the world's memories. Now he has to figure out why while also protecting a confused client from the ghosts trying to murder her. A horror mystery comedy set in Kanto +20 years after gen 1. MCs have a Poochyena and a Raticate respectively.

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>>58881148
>how the fuck does a Bronzor eat?
like this

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>>58882433
>>58882740

Hyphen's Granite Cave arc and its resolution were absolute peak fiction. I really liked the fic-original music that popped up a couple chapters afterward, and the art is pretty cool too. The beginning of the fic can be rough at times, though.

Since nobody posted a summary, it's about a Ralts disguising herself as a human and running Hoenn's Gym gauntlet in order to become the champion, gaining enough power and influence in the process to prevent her hidden Kirlia village from getting steamrolled by humanity once they get found. It's also explicitly set in Emerald, so there's no Ash. Or Fairy-type. Or Pokespeech.

Notably, it's over a decade old, still updating (slowly), and is the earliest example of 'Pokemon as a trainer' that I can think of. Maybe the very first to exist in any substantial manner.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/3881578/chapters/8677237

>>58883181
boring.
Bronzor eats by putting the food inside its bell and then blasting it with tiny but controlled sound waves that psychically break it down into dust that enters through minute cracks in their inner bell.
Magnemite eat similarly but by breaking it down with a magnetic field.
Arceus boofs everything.
Chandelure burn it with their flames and let the pieces collect in their braziers.
etc.

>>58883184
It's been a while since I've reread it but I did like that scene where Roxanne realizes the violin playing was a sham.
>Fairy-type
Doesn't Astra have a weird mega stone with her though?

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>>58883195

It certainly looks kind of like a mega stone, but by all accounts it just lets her turn into a hyper-overclocked shadow pokemon on command and lets the Ancestor do her spooky shit. It also got a name recently, it's called the Heartshade Fulcrum.

>>58883188
Unown eat by looking at the food, their meals drawn into their retina as if it were merely light.

>>58883184
NTA, but Yeah, I started reading and I noticed the roughness, but if you say it gets better I'll give i'll hold out.

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>>58881176
By yelling out your attack and potentially giving your opponent the means to counter it, you're actually entering an Auric contract with them that boosts your move's power. Declaring your intent to the world also boosts the resonance between you and your Pokemon's soul, powering them up. It's why Trainers will yell out seemingly obvious commands like 'Dodge it!' so often.

It sounds fucking COOL, okay? Fuck off.

>>58883519
I do this except on top of the negligible power boost it also gives them your own perspective to work with.
So shouting 'Dodge it!' isn't just ordering the obvious, the auric intent also brushes across your pokemon's consciousness and gives them a better idea of the danger as you perceive it and/or your idea of how best to evade it. And because of how aura translation works you technically don't even need to say dodge, you can just shout "Shit!" and the pokemon would get some instinctual idea of what's going on.

>>58882567
>The pokephilia
It's funny pokephilia is shit on so much here, considering that both of the people who commented on my wip wanted the MC to eventually marry his starter. Although they were probably joking.

>>58883550
Do we shit on pokephilia? We warn against it since it's not kosher by SB standards and may scare off the average reader, but I don't think we as a thread are very against it.

>>58883558
I shit on it, but only really with non-humanoid pokemon. Besides it's funny to make fun of.

>>58883549
Based, yeah this makes sense. Would explain why someone as powerful as Red never talks, he has no need to, he's telepathically shit-talking you with his Pokemon

>>58883096

https://archiveofourown.org/works/21307454/chapters/50740379
Spice and Fox
William, nearly an adult, finally begins his Pokémon journey in the frontier, rain-locked country of Hokubu. The two face misadventure and occasional coziness as he catches up on being a trainer and Fennekin opens up to him. Mostly slice of life for the first 15 chapters, gets more serious after that.

>>58883519
>doesn't know about kiai

>>58883609
don't forget you said you'd update by the end of the month. don't leave me hanging bro. need my spicy fox

>>58883609
Incoherent blurp. That’s what I get for just waking up and phone posting.

>>58883644
I’m wrapping up edits on the new chapter. It’ll be posted later today or tomorrow morning.

>>58883658
>new chapter posted later today or tomorrow morning
what an absolute king

>>58883644
What's kiai?

>>58883807
Ever been to a gym and heard some psychopath shouting on each rep? He was practicing kiai instead of simply exhaling like a normal person. Kiai is based on the principle that exhaling can ease upper body movements, but taking it to an autistic extreme.

>>58883807
Ever heard japanese Goku going atatatatatata? That

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>"Let me just do some quick set-up at the start of this chapter, and the rest can be the real action."
>7000 words later

Does Arceus have angels? Could Noble Pokémon work like them?

>>58883900
>going atatatatatata
That was Kenshiro's thing

>>58882864
IWTTS had a lot of well composed battles. They were a bit beefy at times though, and later on you could go into them knowing the MC was just gonna lose, but earlier ones did well. I don't remember one sticking out, only that the gym battles always felt intense for what they were.

>>58884131
Yes, and Goku does it too but the meaning is the same

>>58884150
I don't think Goku has ever atatatatata'd. He might have you're already dead'd but there's no way he's done atata without it being memed to hell and back.

>>58884158
>without it being memed to hell and back.
...? Ah, you weren't in the /a/ threads nor watched the ToP?
https://youtu.be/1X3ua68IAUk

>>58884215
Oh, right. Somehow my brain sealed these memories away as if they never existed.

>>58884215
>nor watched the ToP?
I respect myself, so no

>>58884276
You wouldn't be a Pokémon fan bro, everybody knows the ones that play the games have no standards

>>58882455
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13407176/1/The-Game-of-Champions

You should definitively read Game of Champions, anon.
If there's a classic fic you should read, it is this one. You'll get plenty of thrill here.

A personal recommendation of a favorite of mine is Pinnacle Platinum.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14109390/1/Pok%C3%A9mon-Pinnacle-Platinum
It stars slow and somewhat rough, but it improves as it goes, and in my opinion, it is the best fic out there that I know of that truly captures the spirit and feel of the anime at its best.

I've seen a few stories where Reborn events happened and the place is implied to exist in the world, do you need to ask for permission to use the setting in a fanfic?

>>58884546
It would be polite, but nothing is legally stopping you. At least nothing beyond normal fanfiction stuff.

>>58884546
I've never played the fangame but it seems polite enough to ask for permission if you're going to be involving a fanregion or another fanproject in depth.
If it's just an offhand mention I don't see a reason to.

Any pokemon fics where the mc is a cop or low level glowie that comes upon a conspiracy? Getting tired of the gym battling circuit and don’t see a lot of fics where characters have to deal with random world bullshit

>>58885095
Pokenormal is basically that

>>58885102
>>58885095
This, except that the MC is a former criminal turned paranormal detective. So it does have the 'comes upon a conspiracy' part but it doesn't have cop/glowie vibes if you're looking for police drama sorta vibes.

>>58885154
>paranormal
In what sense? As in real spooky shit or just ghost Pokémon fucking around?

>>58885102
>>58885154
Thanks for the rec-will give it a go!

>>58881176
>stop calling every single attack
Fuck you. Scyther-kill

>>58885163
Real spooky shit, though most of the spooky stuff is inspired by weird things from Gen 1 era parts of the fandom. Inspired being the key word here, like Erika's original design in Red Blue having implications.

>>58885254
>Erika's
What sort of implications.

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>>58885286
Erika's original sprite had her kimono folded in the style of a burial, her eyes were closed, and a pokeball looks like its floating in her hands. This was later changed in Yellow version, the closed eyes explained as Erika being a very sleepy person, and the pokeball just sorta ignored. There is a theory that Erika was originally supposed to be a ghost type gym leader at some point in pokemon's creation.

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>>58885221

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>>58885364
Oh, I remember that now, it's a bit surprising Agatha would have originally been an eevee trainer instead. It gives her character a completely different vibe.

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>>58885369
This but with Amelia from desolation

>>58885369
Did he say sorry, that he didn't mean it or that he forgot?

>>58885221
Exploud, power word liquidize!

>>58878245
Yeah I've read a few stories like that, and a few with fall apart after the initial premise. It usually happens due to poor planning. I know since I've done it at least twice.
But it's always a shame when it happens to a story you really like, especially when there's nothing else like it. Although I haven't read enough Pokemon fics for that to happen to me in this fandom.

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Same size as ours or larger?

>>58885631
Anyone who thinks it's bigger clearly needs to travel more.

>>58885631
Smaller. It's the only way to rationalize world ending threats with pokemon being as weak as they are.

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>>58885574

>>58885456
Interesting, didn't know that about Agatha.

>>58885641
the world being smaller wouldn't appreciably make it easier to end
theres a certain range on energetic events where you're not actually increasing the radius, you're just accelerating the same mass of air into space at increasingly faster speeds
it isn't until you get high enough to crack the crust that radius increases again

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Reminder that Devon is evil as fuck, probably worse than multiverse conqueror Giovanni

>>58885865
Something I've been trying to settle on for my fic is that Steven's a lot older than in the games, and has taken over Devon. But I don't know if that means I should make Devon a little more ethical a business, or do I want to make Steven a little more of a bastard from running it?

>>58885865
>>58885865
>Reminder that Devon is evil as fuck, probably worse than multiverse conqueror Giovanni
Devon's not even close compared to the atrocities Giovanni did across the multiverse in my fic. Basically leaves apocalyptic-tier bad-ends once him and his army have taken what they wanted from that particular world.

>>58885871
I headcanon that Steven made Devon go off the Infinity Energy and lost most of his family's wealth in the process. But afterwards when he finds Zinnia again, they fall for each other.

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>>58885631
It's clear that they wanted the Pokémon world to be more like Strangereal of Ace Combat, inspired yet distinct.

>>58885871
You gotta think bigger than that anon, how dependent is Hoenn on Devon's energy? Nice intentions mean nothing if the world doesn't let you make them true and there's Rose's retarded plan based on a possible energy crisis

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>>58885890
Fixed your map bro

>tq
forgiveness, for the world to become a better place, for a friend to message me and ask if i want to play a game with them
>>58874303
one day someone made a thread about "diaphanous perception" by cge0361 and after reading it, i felt like something inside me broke, i have been much more emotional ever since and while getting noticed by the man himself or being able to at least thank him for writing it would be my dream (which definitely wont happen as i dont see myself posting a lot of pokemon work online (so naturally he likely wont see a single thing i've made or will make (unless, cge if youre into enot from rain world im gonna personally come over to your house and show up with a gift basket))) and would rather feed my much more niche communities (as well as being autistically head over heels for a fictional character, leading me to discharging fics of the same fucker over and over, which would likely discourage him from looking at any of my works)

now isnt that a fuckin walltext, tldr; read a version of twilight that was catered to me because of 4chan and now im writing for a community that would hang me if it realized i ever used said site in my life

,,also chatbots, that was how it all started, chatbots, /vpcai/ specifically, ive had my moments