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A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?
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How do you name your characters?
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>>58886228
Don't worry, I intend to link it here when I start posting in earnest. I already post nearly all my stuff to ao3 and I'll probably post to FF as well. I've heard Pofag got some good responses on QQ so i might look into some other sites as well.
>>58886619
I usually just look for names that sound nice. If they're a relative of a canon character I try to find a similar name.
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I was MINDBROKEN
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Chapter 17 of Spice and Fox is out. Next one is planned for Valentine’s Day.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/21307454/chapters/201086071
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>>58886705
>I've heard Pofag got some good responses on QQ so i might look into some other sites as well.
Honestly, there's no reason at all to not post your stuff on all sites. The more exposure and the more eyes it reaches the better.
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>>58886619
>tq
I pick something that starts with J because I like that letter, pick something at random, or just make noises until I go 'good enough'.
Literally named Tobio by going 'To... bi... oh... Tobio. Sure, why not?'
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14397816/16/Pok%C3%A9mon-In-Mine-Own
https://archiveofourown.org/works/59572648/chapters/206252976
A new chapter of In Mine Own is out.
Back home, rested and recuperated, Kuzey heads to the hospital to ask his Aunt Bounvialle the questions that have been lingering around their family, and to learn the secrets of just who Operative Seringue really is.
(Also, keep an eye out for the special cameo for The Strongest Pokemon of All!)
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>9k words for new IMO chapter
You've been rather busy IMOanon.
Obligatory "we're really about to have three chapters from threadfics posted in one day." What the actual fuck?
>>58886705
I have more engagement from QQ by itself than the rest of the sites I've posted on combined. They seem to like their Pokemon fics. Also I think having a few chapters done before posting is good as it lets you fix any logistical problems you may run into that need fixing. Maybe "logistical" isn't the right word but you probably get what I mean.
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>>58887255
Yeah and thanks for the heads up Pofag, but yeah I figured that out recently, it's why I'm writing the first 5 chapters before posting to various other sites. I already had to combine the second and third chapter and shifted around the appearance of the initial antagonist.
I think the first 5 is a good metric since that's usually the time I'm willing to give a fic to sell me on it's pitch. So I wanna be able to introduce Rhys, the general goings on and the initial conflict. But yeah I might end up updating my story today as well if I can get the current draft of Mahogany chapter 2 to where I like it.
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>>58886619
>How do you name your characters?
I have autism so I named them after their personality, profession or plant and flower motif like gym leaders in the games.Then I write the Japanese version of their names
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https://rentry.org/pkmnmhgny
Alright I've updated it, the current draft one is a revision of the 4th draft, while the new and current chapter 2 is a revision of a first draft after scrapping the old 2 & 3, and gluing them together. The first chapter is mostly unchanged aside from editing, but there is a small detail I added to the end of that chapter you may want to check out.
Anyways I need to take a nap before my eyes start hurting.
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>>58887639
Pokemon: Beyond the End. Guy gets isekai’d into his own SMD character, his partner takes it poorly.
Non-Pokemon: Watership Down. Clever exploration of what a rabbit society would look like. Huge inspiration for me personally.
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>>58887639
I've been enjoying Hypen recently, it's about a ralts who becomes a pokemon trainer to protect her pokemon enclave. Although it takes a while to get going.
For non pokemon? While it's really long winded, I've been enjoying Moby Dick
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Well shit, four chapter updates in one day. Might be a new record for the thread. Chapter 40 of PoPT is upfeaturing the resurrection of the Ian-Hyde beef and the first mention of the ultimate macguffin
https://archiveofourown.org/works/66210784/chapters/170669461
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>>58888473
Whenever I hear the name Hyde all I can think of
>Let him be Mister Hyde, I shall be Mister Seek
Reading that line was like reading Moby Dick only to discover
>Cool as a cucumber
Has been around since the mid 1800s
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>>58888497
Hilariously enough, Hyde’s name was made during the part of development of PoPT where it I was trying to do “Sengoku Jidai but on an island,” and the names represented that.Ian Cougar being a Tokugawa Ieyasu reference (name change included). Guzma’s last name is Doa (basically Oda Nobunaga). Hyde is a reference to Akechi Mitsuhide. Tom the contractor go being a Toyotomi Hideyoshi reference, etc
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I’m ready for it anon.
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>>58887639
might I interest you in gigachad elf?
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/peak-elf-performance-original- isekai.1213259/
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>>58889015
to sell people on it
>He, as a male elf, was normally slotted in somewhere between femboy, twink, or duckold. Male elves usually got in the way of the protagonist charming elven women, after all. Limp-wristed, reserved, arrogant, usually somewhat dextrous and magically gifted at their best. Sometimes they were yet another 'woman' interested in the designated protagonist, for the somewhat niche homoerotic appeal.
>Naturally, he wasn't going to tolerate that. Every other elven male seemed content being losers who focused on grace or sorcery or whatever. Wizards and duelists, who wielded devastating magical spells and swayed like willows to avoid mountain-cleaving blows. Lightly armored, with lean builds and arrogant sneers that devolved into incoherent outrage when they were inevitably defeated by some plucky young protagonist spamming his starter-attack over and over at them.
>He, on the other hand, was going to hit things in the face very hard, and laugh when things hit him very hard. He was going to wear heavy armor, use very big weapons, and throw himself into danger with absolutely no regard for potentially wasting a thousand-year lifespan by dying young.
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>>58889082
>Unfortunately, the archetypal elf has been somewhat diluted from the golden age of Tolkien, and a brand new archetype had taken shape in the far East, that of the Anime Elf. The Anime Elf was still long-lived and beautiful, and usually had a talent for magic, but they had a number of other, less agreeable traits.
two paragraphs above those
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Elfs in Pokémon sounds like a good concept, their world is a good mix between nature and progress, also since humans living hundreds of years outside of Az's "immortality" is a thing now and the usual time fuckery you won't have to worry about lifespan
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>>58888600
I couldn't do it, I couldn't get a fifth chapter posted in the same day. It's currently 2 am for me. RIP, committing seppukucide.
Chapter 7 of Crystal Light: Royal Chartreuse
https://archiveofourown.org/works/63406333/chapters/206365451
The Warriors of Light have much to celebrate in the aftermath of their battle in the world of nightmares, but Wol struggles with the costs of victory. But a victory is a victory, and the celebrations of a grateful kingdom do good for a guilty heart. Still, the future seems more uncertain than ever as our heroes return to Corneria Kingdom to close the book on their first adventure.
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>>58889336
That counts! We count those!
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>>58889336
Crazy that you post a picture of a Final Fantasy elf within hours of me finishing a chapter that heavily focuses on the elves of Final Fantasy. Then again, these elves aren't the immortal kind. Hell, Final Fantasy elves seem to die a lot.
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>>58889062
To continue the Final Fantasy elf rantings, my favorite depiction of elves is from FF 11, in which the elves are gangly monstrosities often compared to giraffes. Their long limbs have granted them the highest strength stat of all the races, and before guns were invented they sword and boarded the entire continent under their military might. The generic fantasy kingdom of knights are the elves, and the humans are more akin to what are generally the dwarves territory of digging in mines and using technology. This also means that the elves also get all the dogmatic christian like religious practices. They got an elf pope.
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>>58889370
>my favorite depiction of elves is from FF 11, in which the elves are gangly monstrosities often compared to giraffes
Oh, so that's where the Elezen came from! Anyways, I always wanted to write a story with an elf acting arrogant about his magic and long lifespan just to fall in a cultivation setting and have some elder call him a fag because a thousand years old junior DARES to think he's hotshit. Probably won't write it tho because Frieren is a thing and now people want autistic elves acting like kids
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Made a new edition of the bingo
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>>58890184
As far as I’m aware we didn’t started reading each other’s fics until after the Squirtle/Wartortle was revealed, so this was all independently done.
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>>58890196
Wait, does that you're all secretly pic rel?!
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>>58890213
>Charizard saturation has led to Blastoise being the socially acceptable KANTOOOOOOO starter
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>>58890213
Unintentionally yes. I just need to get some cool sunglasses. I made Ian's team be antagonist-coded and tried to be a hipster with the team picks, but Squirtles are too legit to pass up.Honestly the main reason I needed to use the Squirtle line in PoPT is something that happens in the next chapter, oddly enough.
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Silver eyes has gotten a bit boring but I did enjoy the author whining about people not liking his plot armor Green tournament win
The proceedingcry sessionfelt somewhat forced and wasn't nearly as enjoyableAnd then the whole "Yeah remember that side character with the Charizard well he got bleachscoped offscreen lmao" killing Petrel sidequest was stupid. The cringekino edginess has gotten oversaturated and lost it's charm on top of such a big plot point of tracking down and bringing Petrel to justice getting poofed into smoke with "yeah we already knew where he was or something because I had Domino who hasn't shown up in like 10 chapters track him somehow and then we fast traveled to his location on the map just don't worry about it lmao"
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>>58890462
I don't recall them being done in any particular offensive way. Turo and Sada AI was a fun plot development.
They aren't done often either so I think anyone working to implement a humanoid robot into their story probably has a fun idea planned. Or it could be a cookie cutter robot battle algorithm
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>>58891021
sure, mechas too I guess
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>>58890027
Obviously then the best fic would have all of them combined.
>Reborn in another world as the son of a pokemon during the Kanto-Johto war
>Lucario wife teaches him aura powers
>Ash shows uo
>Parent pokemon is either a Gardevoir, Zoroark, or a Lucario
>Human father betrays him and villain captures his poke-mother
>MC's knowledge of being half pokemon and being an Isekaijin allows him to fill out the rest of the bingo.
Wait, isn't that just Yellow/N.If it was started on SB it would 100% a man reincarnating into a female N.
>>58890089
Aside from what you mention and going by what we usually shitpost about, ntr is a tropePofag + Foxfag, but that probably falls under humiliation ritual. Although I'm a bit cautious about moving spaces around or removing them since I like the current selection.
Maybe if I can think of 5 more good options that aren't covered by the other squares I'll add a new row.
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>Spoiler
I don't think I've ever seen an OC insert genderbend and replace a canon character. One or the other but not the combination of the two.
Unless it's one of those 'im the female twin of said character' fic. I can totally see someone writing a story of an fem si girl bossing and defecting from Plasma because Ghetsis is so evil and grooms children and we can have pointless melodrama when she feels bad for leaving N behind.
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>>58891209
True, I was trying to combine as many tropes as possible and replace canon character and genderbend Isekaijin don't normally happen at the same time, although this does reveal the 'replace canon character' square, that'll go on my bucket list for the 5th row.
>>58891217
Good point, good point. The brain chemicals are brewing the most genuine slop today.
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>>58891369
I'm kind of abstract with it and don't say it outright, but Pokemon that are the main characters' get their nicknames used, while it's implied other people's Pokemon HAVE nicknames but aren't used in the narration to keep it clear who and what they are.
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>>58891369
Aside from what the poster above said, I haven't decided on a nickname yet and want to eventually use it as a signifier for how far the MC's and his Starter have grown since they start off a bit antagonistic and than reluctant.
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>>58891369
dogshit redditier opinion. No one thinks your interesting for giving confusing and historical names to pokemon. Most people won't even know what pokemon you're talking about because namefags love to mention the species maybe once by description and then never mention the pokemon's species again for 50 chapters.
Seeing an author give names to pokemon is the clearest sign you're about to read a shitfic
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>>58891369
I remember reading manga summaries on serebii in my younger years and constantly needing to look up what the nicknames for the trainers’ Pokémon were, so while nicknames would 100% be a thing in a realistic Pokémon setting (we don’t call our pet dogs “dog”), the written medium doesnt do readers any favors. I already have too many characters for readers to keep track of and that’s without nicknames. Imagine every trainer character has potentially six more named characters the reader has to keep track of… It's not fair to readers.
And to continue, for a one-of opponent in a 6 on 6 match, are all of the opponent’s Pokémon nicknamed? If you use nicknames, they should all have nicknames. It’s Pandora’s box to me once you start using them.
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>>58891369
When I play, yeah. But for my fics it really depends on the characters. Most of my characters don't nickname their pokemon save for I think two in separate fics. One as the MC's super special extra cool ace, and the other being a nickname given for plot reasons.
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Point taken, I didn't think too much of it at first, but the reasons for not nicknaming pokemon make sense. The fact that I kept moving Sneasel's being given a name later and later into the story during my outlines probably has something to do with how bad of an idea it was.
Well it wasn't like I had any good name ideas either and there's probably something more elegant I san use to show that their relationship has progress significantly.Like an evolution? Maybe just a cute moment, idk I'll figure it out later. Anyways I changed Growey to Growlithe and removed the joke about Clair's bad sense of naming.
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>>58891369
pokemon nicknames require you make your pokemon actual characters
this requires good writing, as its difficult to balance a multitude of different characters all with wildly different non-human mindsets, communication difficulties, and while still making them all interesting
you can crutch this by making pokemon intelligible to the reader, either through POV switching and/or through the main character learning to communicate with their pokemon better over time
this lessens the communication issue to a degree, but the other aspects are still there
in other words: not naming your pokemon characters displays either a lack of confidence in your writing ability, or you're playing games on purpose
this does not mean you should abandon references to your characters species, remind the readers on occasion while avoiding overuse
you should of course refer to other trainers pokemon by species more frequently, cause readers sure as shit can't be trusted to remember those outside of binge reading
in summary:
>skill issue
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>>58891235
That reminds me, there's that Dawn PLA, genderbender, SI story where Arceus makes her an Alpha Pokemon, alongside being a human, so she brainwashed everyone around her.
But if the Plasma Grunt SI!OC in this scenario has Salazzale genes and a Salazzle mom, then I think that lines up pretty well. Add into it Ghetsis being her father via poke-rape and you have an extra edge factor to better fit with the bingo.
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>>58891575
If you're giving nicknames, you better hammer the species name in and keep mentioning it. If at any point you find yourself calling a pokemon 'Princess' and the reader needs to go figure what that means, then you've already made your story worse for it.
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>>58891679
Poke rape feels ooc for Ghetsis, artificial insemination and GMO test tube babies feels more up his alley.
N could be a result of him aura and poke gene maxxing a clone of himself so he could swap memories into.
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For your G*lar hating needs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G7vEkewI94
Brock and Misty defeated Milo and Nessa respectively. They even Dynamaxed, but still lost.
Was also the first round so you can't even say they got far in before losing first.
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>>58891679
>so she brainwashed everyone around her
No bro it's not like that she just releases an aura that causes everyone to love her so much that they're willing to abandon their preexisting friends family and loyalties for her bro cmon it's wholesome.
But capturing pokemon in a net? Fucking EVIL! DIE! DIE! DIE!
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>>58891506
>Zoomzoom can’t hold a name and a species in his head for more than 10 seconds
Maybe AI summaries of stories are a little more your speed
>>58891513
Sure, but you wouldn’t be the first story to have a lot of named characters. Most of them will just fade out of the readers’ minds once they leave the plot anyway, there’s not a lot of mental load keeping up with the names of jobbers who show up for a chapter.
If you really don’t want to do that, you could say it’s convention to call Pokemon by their species while they’re battling for convenience, like how people get called by their jersey number in real sports.
Plus if there are ever two Pokemon of the same species then names make it easier on readers, not harder.
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I will forgive people who do it for character reasons
>>58891618
This guy made the points I was gonna make. It just feels wrong to give a character a full personality and call him Elf just cause you’re afraid people might forget he’s an elf.
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>>58891820
> It just feels wrong to give a character a full personality and call him Elf just cause you’re afraid people might forget he’s an elf
Yeah, except there are over a thousand different species named, not just “elf.” I will re-iterate, in a visual medium nicknames would not be an issue (Richie in the anime for example). But in the writing medium where there are more than 20 trainer characters, including nicknames for all Pokémon (which would realistically happen) is an impossible mountain to climb. A Song of Ice and Fire has over a thousand named characters and guess what? Active readers need to have fucking notes for that shit, not even mentioning references to historical characters. That’s the most successful fantasy series of the past few decades and he can’t thread that needle right. Believing a fanfic writer could do it is retarded and is proof you don’t actually write.
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>nothing with pokemon beyond omakes
Every time. You seemed a lot more dogmatic earlier.
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>Sitting in the corner waiting to see if the guys arguing mention your fic as an example of nicknames working or not working
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>>58891840
>Most successful fantasy series of the last few decades
It sounds like he’s threaded the needle just fine. Seriously, I think Game of Thrones (and Tolkien, and basically every piece of epic fantasy) is proof that people aren’t as allergic to names as you think.
>You don't write
I write MD, where it feels extra weird not to give Pokemon names. Usually I just give a character’s species the first time they’re reintroduced in a chapter.
>You’re not Martin/Tolkien/whoever
Ain’t no tuition for having no ambition.
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I promise I will read IMO soon, it sounds really up my alley, I’m just a lazy bastard.
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>>58891934
>It sounds like he’s threaded the needle just fine
So uh… you didn’t read most of my post, which tracks with everything else you said.
To any current and future writers, take every bit of advice from this thread with a grain of salt. People like the anon above have half a brain and will zealously explain to you why your work sucks while having never written anything in the Pokémon fandom.
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Release the Undella files
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>>58891923
It is an issue, especially in pokemon fanfics.
>Western pokemon names: I looked up cool female greek gods and picked what sounded cool and only spared a passing moment to make sure they shared some traits with the pokemon in question!
>Eastern pokemon names: I called him blacky because his fur is black (´◡`)
It's pretty obvious which one is more intuitive when the author inevitably drops context clues later on.Also I'm tired of greek/roman mythology names. Please stop, for the love of god please get inspiration somewhere else. If I have to read about another trickster Loki I might begin ragnarok myself
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>>58891718
You have a point, although reincarnating as a knock off Silver Eyes man as N sounds funnier, especially since Ghetsis is the genuine type of edgelord you'd think originates from fanfiction. Now that I think about it, despite Silver having the worse attitude, due to Gen 5s tone I might prefer that generation for an edgy protagonist.
It sort of reminds me how confusing I find BoC using a nuke as the isekaijin device, it's not the nuke itself I question. Just, why use a nuke? WMDs aren't esspicaly relevant to the plot so if you're going to give your Isekajin a backstory they can angst about, why nuke?It'd make way more sense for a Kalos story.
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A couple of anons have mentioned it before, but a brainwashing villain does sound like a fun idea for an antag. Although I think Pofag is doing something similair since I've heard he has an Isekaijin villainess and a salazzle-blooded character does sound like she's fall into alot of the same 'isekaijin villain' tropes.Although Salzzzle is in Alolah, I hope you're taking notes Pofag.
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>>58892170
>Just, why use a nuke?
I figured it was because it made the MC a thermophobe which was relevant for his fire starter and a bit relevant for his conflicts with Team Magma. It also gave the MC experience with doomsday events which provides motivation to ensure he doesn't live through another, something a lot of isekaijins struggle with what with their "muh timeline preservation" bullshit.
That aside, why not use a nuke? Something has to isekai the isekaijin, doesn't really matter all that much what in most cases.
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>>58892294
A nuke just feels very impersonal, compared to something like a house fire. I get the thermophobia, but a nuke just seems silly to me compared to something more personal. Besides I don't think people need any reason in particular to want to prevent a doomsday, that's kind of the main strength and weakness of end of the world plots. You kind of just have to be alive to not want the world to end, it's very character neutral.
It's just a bit silly and hard for me to take seriously, being getting Isekaied is just a genre convention, unless the how AND why are plot important I don't really care.
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>>58892306
I'm not seeing what you're seeing. A nuclear armageddon sounds a lot more relevant to ORAS' storyline than a housefire, and I don't get how fewer people dying makes for a better isekai method.
It beats getting truck'd or dying of a heart attack in your gamer chair at least. Those things never have anything to do with the isekai.
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>>58892314
Fewer people dying doesn't really matter to me. But at the same time a nuke comes across as a bit silly. But at the same time, I don't think a nuclear Armageddon is anymore relevant to ORAS than dying via a truck or heart attack. When I think of ORAS I think of natural disaster plots and retarded ecoterrorists, not WMDs.
Although it's not like it's a real problem, it still gives the MC thermophobia, I just think it's silly and don't get why a nuke specifically was chosen.
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>>58892306
That's the beauty of it. Different anon, but I don't give a fuck about isekai. Most of the stories I hear about in this thread just blend together for me. But I remember 'the one where the guy got nuked' because it stands out. I'm not going to read it, but some people are and standing out in the homogeneous slop of isekai is a good thing.
Every story needs crazy, stupid, and weird shit in it. Not all the time, but at least one moment that makes the audience question the logic behind it. Because those are the kinds of things that give your story a personality beyond just being another story. Like the Honey Bee Inn from Final Fantasy 7, Voldo from Soul Calibur, the alligator from All Dogs Go to Heaven. They stick out in the audience's memories and become a part of their identity because they are unique.
It's honestly the same logic of pokemon's 'make them a little imperfect' design philosophy. Most franchises have cool monsters because its not hard to make a cool monster, so purely cool monsters won't stand out as unique.
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>>58892322
>When I think of ORAS I think of natural disaster plots and retarded ecoterrorists, not WMDs.
This is the disconnect I guess. I can't imagine comparing the awakening of Primal Groudon and all that entails to a natural disaster like a wildfire or typhoon. This shit's biblical and it's all mankind's doing.
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Well my story is still a WiP and it wasn't going to come up for awhile anyways so I have time to think it over and come up with a good name if I go down that path.All I can come up with is Clair based names but Sneasel would reject those out of hand.
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>>58892170
BoC has a brainwashing villain
frankly more interesting things come when you don't handwave grunts and followers as victims of magical brainwashing, but instead as traditional brainwashing victims
ie: cult tactics and strategies
afterall, Marshall Applewhite convinced 38+4 people, to kill themselves
Jim Jones? 918 people
how many could a charismatic enough leader convince on a quest to "save" the world?
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>>58892365
>I think it'd make way more sense for a Kalos story.
>Then use an ultimate weapon imitation, it's basically the same
Really? I hadn't thought of that.
>>58892574
Well the villain isn't meant to be a 'good' or even decently written one, it's literally an attempt to hit all the bingo squares as a character. While also making fun of some infamous fic that have been mentioned here in the past.
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>>58891958
> Also I'm tired of greek/roman mythology names. Please stop, for the love of god please get inspiration somewhere else. If I have to read about another trickster Loki I might begin ragnarok myself
Easier said than doneHow far would you go looking up names based off of Egyptian/African myths without coming off as an Imperial Retard? You're better off naminging those after Pegans and Gouls.
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>>58892777
Not him, but I agree with the sentiment pet-type names are probably better. If you don't want to use names from mythology you're familiar with, and don't want to use names from myths you're unfamiliar with then I think taking the safe option
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>>58892873
>immediately imagine a full team of actual zoroark to compound the mind game
>send out my first not zoroark the zoroark
>it disguises itself as a zoroark
>I realize the flaw in my plan
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>>58892170
>spoiler
If only I did the "Pokemon-genes" trope (I'm not a fan desu). It'd give her a greater justification than "she's just a lucky, privileged bitchgetting unknowingly manipulated by the real big bads", but oh well
There will be some mention of brainwashing in arc 4 oddly enough. Not actively happening to characters, but it will be spelled out that it's been happening in a certain place.
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>>58893222
Hilariously enough that whole faction is crossover reference between Teddy Roosevelt’s Rough Riders and NFL team called the Raiders (whose colors are silver and black). All of the names but the Teddy Roosevelt guy are slightly changed versions of known Raiders players/staff.
It will also surprise you how many people in the Pokémon world have gray/silver eyes.
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>>58887819 (me)
I updated the draft of the second chapter of my pokemon wip. There's some things I'd appreciate some feedback on. I'll spoiler them since I'd want (you), any other writer or reader really, to give me some feedback on this.
The first isthat I'm planning on introducing Petrel, he has to be introduced in some form this chapter since he'll appear at the end of the next one. I was planning on writing the scene to be after the Blackthorns leave but before Rhys and Sneasel go to bed.
The problem is I'm not sure how to write Petrel in this scene, but I think Rhys needs to be wistful and full of wanderlust for the world outside the mansion. Maybe Petrel needs to be a bit annoyed, he'll be in a full body uniform so his identity will be hidden but I'm wondering how honest he should be about feeling trapped and not particularly liking the Mahogany family.
The second thing isSneasel and Rhys' relationship. The final draft of the first chapter has Sneasel give Rhys her missing tooth he punched out. Rhys turns it into a necklace to represent their bond. In the second chapter she also speaks up (well chatters, she's like a bird/car) when Rhys dismisses himself as not having any friends, and Clair asserts herself as his best friend and rival.
I also thought of an interaction where she wouldn't want him to take off the necklace even when he goes to sleep. But I thought that was too romantic, I don't want their relationship to be *that* close.
Pictures of female Sneasel are hard to find.
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...Blastoise
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>>58893525
Forgot pic.
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>>58886619
>Thread Question
I look at names suiting the character's ethnic background and research the historical significance or commonly understood meaning behind them. It is very time consuming, picking a good name that both means something and sounds good, but I believe it's worth it in the end.
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>>58893935
Pofag here. It gets more serious as stakes get introduced and the plot becomes more forward. Team Skull is inherently kind of retarded so I have fun with that, but I like to think I keep the tone from being too comedic or too grim.
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>>58891369
I see pokemon having names in fics on the same level of anime protagonists having strange hair.
If everybody has strange hair then no one does. Or it's a clown house, one of the two. But eitherway, nobody sticks out.
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>>58894718
What makes you think that?
Although I'm sure a lot of authors have poked their heads in here at least once before getting filtered by the 4chan culture. Didn't Silver Eyes guy pop in and start seething over bants?
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>>58894724
Land Shark is just vibes but I started suspecting Evil Trainer when I decided to check it out while this thread was poking fun at it and coincidentally seeing that the only other person viewing the thread on SB at the same time was the author.
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>>58894724
When did that happen? I know I haven't seen any thread but I can't believe I'd miss something like that.
Aside from that I've heard of Fuggman appearing in some of the old /vpwt/ threads, he might even be here right now.
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>>58895165
>When did that happen
Sometime in the last few months I think. I can't remember any details beyond the fact someone who didn't type like an anon was getting really defensive of certain tropes that Silver Eyes shared.
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>>58895051
>Jolly Mudfish
SI into a mudkip who spends most of his time fucking around with other pokemon at a ranch/school. It's dead and didn't get too far but what's there was pretty chill.
>Pokemon Abridgestory Dungeon
Comedy comfy PMD webcomic, and it's complete too.
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>>58895381
Abridgestory is the exact kind of thing I’m looking for right now, but my service is inconsistent and reading comics might be hard. Let me see what I can do.
Will give Jolly Mudfish a look. At least it doesn’t really matter if SOL stuff dies since it’s not like they build to a grand conclusion.
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>>58895624
Nin-to-Five is the 2nd best I've read from him btw, lying is a free action, and mechs are totally puppets
starts off about 12-13 years pre-canon
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>>58887315
Well there's always the trusty joy.
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>>58895624
hopefully he actually finishes it, or at least arc 2
he wrote something about needing patreon bucks and releases chapters early there, I'm hoping that'll motivate him enough to actually finish this before starting another adam smasher crossover
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>>58896544
"When Praying to Mecca, Which Way do I bow in Another World?" -the series.
Although the thought of getting Isekai'd and a group of religious zealots thinking you're a prophet/angelic/demi-god would be pretty funny. Easy excuse for a harem.
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>>58896190
Seats one of the few where when he drops a fic he actually sets it to Dropped, so no worries thusfar
He fucking HATES drama though, its why he dropped the Roboute Girlyman sent back in time fic
We'll see where it goes from here, but I'm fairly confident at least Book 2 will get finished.
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>>58896557
>hello pokehumans, I come from a world that is exactly like yours but technologically worse and we don't have magical creatures and we're ruled over by elites that practice evil rituals and eat babies
>please worship me now :D
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>>58896580
>Isekai'd inexplicably from this world
>Arrive in new world, coincidentally on a sacred altar during a ritualistic celebration honoring a/their god
>They all think you're divine
>Become Paul Atreides just with different magical cocaine and a harem
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>>58896584
nta but I wouldn't say it's good. It's feels very AI and it's a clear case of "isekaijin discovering things that should be common sense".
But if you have low standards for fulfillment fantasies and you like Cynthia it might be good to you.
>>58896580
tbdesu an elite pdf filewould have a field day getting everyone to worship him in the pokemon world. If those dumbass villain team leaders could do it then Bezos would have all the regions watching Cuties and transing their genders within a couple months.
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>>58896584
If you wanna read "young awkward Cynthia Slowly falls in love with local amnesiac who has Bulbapedia stuffed in his brain + journey shenanigans happen", go for it
Doesn't have the vibes I'm looking for personally, but its not bad, competent even. Its very romance focused, less so on long term plot.
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>>58896613
You left out the bit where the amnesiac is legitimately no-exaggeration as skinny as a starving ethiopian child yet Cynthia still finds him hot for some reason.
I just couldn't get over that part lmao, it kept coming up but the author never addressed the dissonance.
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>>58896584
I'm not who you are asking, but I'll chime in anyways.
Land shark is at minimum heavily AI assisted.
If you can stomach that, then you might like the inexplicable romance between an amnesiac hungry skeleton and young insecure Cynthia.
It isn't very good overall, but there are some half decent ideas in between the AIisms.
I will give credit for the author being brave enough to just entirely redo large portions of the fic after deciding he didn't like his tacked on cultivation bullshit. It takes guts to do that and the story is much better without it. Makes me wonder how much was his idea though.
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>>58896623
Its not pure physical attraction going on there, and hes filled out a LOT by the text. Love is blind, etc etc. + Cynthia is a massive fucking nerd.
He wasn't holocaustmaxxing at the start either. Not quite as bad as what you're saying.
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>>58896624 >>58896613 >>58896605
Doesn't sound like my cup of tea, I try not to read AI fics if I can notice the AI. The whole skeleton things sounds creepy as well, somehow fetishes always come across more disturbing when they're not specifically part of porn.
I don't really get why people use it as an assistant either, aside from it always sounding pretty generic it allows you're brain to too easily offload the mental stress of writing things when you kind of need that friction to learn and get better
Although that makes me wonder if anybody has posted some slop here
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how easily can you hide your fetish in a fic without being too obvious?
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>>58896659
If you say so, but the way it was described to me it sounds like >>58896672
When an author focuses on something odd and particular it make it seem like he's getting off to it? Sometime it's off phrasing like how Spicefag described Holly as 'young and clean', although that just made me raise my eyebrow for a moment, I don't know how he feels about cleaning equipment but that was probably just honestly odd phrasing there.
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>>58896648
There was some slop posted here recently, caused some drama because the anon who posted it didn't say it was made with AI and heavily edited to not seem like AI. People seemed to like it until somebody said asked if it was AI, and the anon said yeah he had spent like 100+ hours trying to edit it to make it 'not AI anymore'.
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>>58896694
There hasn't been a sex scene yet, it isn't a constant thing, and its basically resolved by the latest chapter. Cynthia was also appropriately aghast at his condition.
It really doesn't feel like a fetish thing around the physical appearance to me, perhaps a fetish oriented towards care and recovery maybe? Even that's a stretch with how the stories gone. No baby-bird esque scenes or anything. Just acknowledgement that he's weak and overdoes things during recovery.
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So I'm reading Hyphen so far and I just finished Chpater 16, but I have a guess that...the colony of Ralts and Kirilia are totally partly descended from humans right? There's the freaky fake mega-stone that's probably made by the founder and she has this whole song about being in love with a human, and the megastone mysteriously gives Astra knowledge of how humans are and her grandpa used it and probably got the same effect. So it's totally like the Founder's imprint on there and she'd mad either because she got cucked or the human she was in love with betrayed her.
Did I get anything right in my guess?
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>>58896923
actually I should mention we delve into another highly intelligent Pokemon species with very alien thinking which torpedos your theory pretty hard. also I think Metagross is self-aware and psychic too and I don't think anybody'sclangingthat
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>>58897018
Really, the fic is that slow? Well I guess I'll have to stick in for the long Haul I guess.
>>58897023
Metagross is a supercomputer from an ancient civilization and a psychic type, of course they're all intelligent but with weird alien thinking.But then again the Gardevoir line are already pretty humanish, but the grandfather did also mention the boundary between human and Pokemon being less apparent back then as well and he said that for a reason.
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>>58897041
>the fic is that slow?
yep. if it spent all that time being a generic slice of life or badge farming I'd be pissed, but shit has been going down. the ongoing human-pokemon strife keeps me interested and stops it from being let's play gen 3 with a tiny green haired sprite
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>>58897143
Yeah, slowly developing the main plot doesn't mean nothing is happening
Hell, To Live is to Dream spent 600k+ words in the Eterna Forest, which turned out to be a Xianxia hellscape of weirdo Pokemon complete with:
>rebel terrorists
>false flags
>kidnappings
>aura farming
>forbidden romance
>a hallucinatory drug trip
>self-immolation
>three coup attempts
>one successful coup by the MC
>beating the stupid out of an old man
>genuine actual character growth
>a strength based military dictatorship
>beating up an idiot turtle
>diggy diggy hole
>embarrassing an entire species of pokemon
>vietnam style tunnel warfare
>no I am the demons
>the founding of a european style order of knights
>multiple impromptu photo modeling sessions
>scaring the piss out of some old men
>tickling god
>advanced television repair
>making national level authorities panic
Its a quest too, the QM gave us outs constantly, but we 100%'d that bitch.
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>>58897241
>fairy—that last one being newly discovered or something and having gotten all trainers and science-y types everywhere in a tizzy.
Why is it always Fairy being recently discovered? Why never Dark or Steel? Where are the kanto variant rock magnemites to maintain consistency? Reeeee
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>>58897443
>out of universe justification that doesn't make any sense in universe and isn't even consistent with itself
Every fucking time. If Fairy recently got discovered then the whole ass region of Kalos should be recently discovered to, except oh wait it isn't it's always been there for some reason but not the Fairy type no that's new and oh apparently Alola's always been here too and we've always known about it even though it's newer than Gen 6 was but somehow not the Fairy type nope no that's newly discovered
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>>58897241
I think the author of Hyphen even put out a little mini chapter where Astra met the protag of that quest. They way overthought the details and it turned out meh, but it did make me wonder how each character would handle dealing with the others arc location. The cave would probably just be more misery but the forest could be fascinating, especially if there was some contrivance that forced the use of the secret weapon.
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>>58897462
ORAS introduced different timelines, so you could argue that Fairy type is a recent discovery in one of them while it always existed in other timelines
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>>58897424
I liken it to something like how Neptune was discovered
People had seen it all the way back to Galileo's time, it just was never recognized as a planet. It wasn't until the early 1800s when some mathematicians were running calculations to chart out future movements of the planets, that they realized something wasn't right. There had to be a perturbing body tugging things off a little bit.
Two decades later they finally worked out the math on where Neptune had to be in the sky, and started searching.
Its not that it was invisible, that nobody had seen it prior, its that it just wasn't known as a planet.
How I link this to Fairy is that it wasn't until enough evidence really collated, and a theory of what in the fuck this typing is and what it represents was formed, that they figured out that it wasn't a type. Instead of some Ability or Move oddity, or even an environmental factor like diet.
I think this is shown in just how few moves it has, relative to other types. 3 gens after its introduction, there are only 20 non-legendary Fairy moves. Dark has 40.
Steel and Dark were also going to be in Gen 1 before they were cut.
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>>58897503
>it wasn't a type
it WAS a type
Also note the backdated Fairy mons:
Clefairy and Mawile line are rare and seclusive
Togepi, Marill, and Ralts are rare as fuck
Mr. Mime are for rich fucks and not for battling
If anything it'd be discovered through Jigglypuff and Snubbull
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>>58897503
I don't find scientific failures a good enough reason. There's no way they'd overlook something as obvious a datapoint as being susceptible to Ghost attacks and completely immune to Dragon attacks, that's not something a simple diet can explain away. A Fairy conspiracy to keep pleb humans in the dark as a joke or for secrecy's sake is more believable than that, which funnily enough goes well with the "dragon clans suppressing the truth" meme too.
But none of this really matters. It's an easy thing to overlook in a story, I'm only bitching because I'm annoyed writers perpetuate the same meme still.
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>>58897514
I think a good way to help it along is having global communication and travel be vastly hampered by territorial oceanic pokemon until technology catches up
Hard to do international trade and communication in wooden ships when ornery Gyarados inhabit the deep. Not to mention what else lurks out there in the deep ocean.
This lets regions with loads of Fairies know about it far ahead of Fairy deprived regions.
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>>58897520
Plausible in ancient or isolated settings, but it's not something I can nod along with in a modern-day setting that implies the regions having had longstanding contact with each other.
At least for TLitD the author has the excuse of not having actually played PLA or possibly anything beyond gen 4 for that matter, so it's understandable. Maybe he was under the impression that the Fairy type really did just pop into existence through Arceus magic and the trainer world justifiably went apeshit over the new addition to their world.
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>>58886743
Binged the whole thing last night and it's really fucking good! Nice shit anon, can't wait for the next chapter!