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First for Maractus a cute!

How do I acquire the cards in the easiest manner for this cheap Team Rockets Honchcrow deck?

>>59117106
Paypig some codes from a 3rd party site, pull a shitload, get dupes, and farm currency so then you can just get whatever card you want.
It's what I do when I come back to this game, it's like 40 bucks for a fuckton of codes.

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If there's one advantage regarding packs instantly being sold out everywhere because of everyone ripping them all apart in search of mega super secret rares, it's that everything else from each set becomes waste product and by comparison and is incredibly cheap to buy

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>>59117350
Can confirm. I have 2 ETBs full of waste product for Chaos Rising.

>>59117408
*Perfect Order. I am retarded.

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Lucaribros, what happened?

>>59117533
Gets fucked by le olives.

>>59117533
japanese pokemon league is best of one so actual winners in championships are completely random

>>59117554
Can't imagine the rage I'd feel if I prized all my important cards in my one and only game

>>59117564
I've never even played Pokemon in a BO3 format before.

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>>59117564
yeah it's why no one takes the region seriously
the entire reason bo3 is the universal standard for TCGs is to mean you don't lose in the grand finals due to freak occurences like all of your alakazam being prized

>>59117533
I guess with everyone was playing quad lillie's clefairy mega lucario got swept

>>59117564
>>59117581
Zamn, it's almost as if prizes are a bad mechanic

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>>59117619
the game has only been out for 29 years i'm sure they'll think of some workaround eventually
pocket of all things instantly came up with the most obvious and easy solution but apparently it's too hard to actually ape that system and then errata the whole 4 cards that anyone actually plays that interact with prize cards directly

Bolt without Sada is just sad.
I saw a guy trying to use trumpet to charge Meowth and Kangaskhan, but those are a weak 2 prizer and a 3 prizer, Kangaskhan doesn't give as many cards as Sada and Trumpet won't charge the Bolt so it has to be charged with Crispy.
Something like Ultraball, Meowth, Crispy and Trumpet to attack in turn 1, very sad.
It doesn't help that Clefairies are common now because of Pult decks being like weeds.

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>>59117640
Embrace Bolt-Bolt.

Serperior deck looks fun in concept, but it's so bricky.

mega skarmory ex is a pretty good card
you put it onto the bench when your opponent has 3 prizes left and you instantly throw the game
hope more people do that

>>59117728
I'm trying to make something with it
My first idea is lead with arboliva, spread damage, and then let it get killed
Then Rosa to boost your army of snakes
I've never been able to use Rosa; arboliva just kinda kills everything if you get it going turn 2

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WtoDbx0D3Q
I just can't believe olives are meta.

>>59117793
I'm an Arboliever

>all the youtubers pronounce is "Arbo-leeva"
Wouldn't it be "Arb-olive-uh" because it's an olive tree? Arbor + olive

>>59117895
Oliva (oh-LEE-vuh) from the spanish word... oliva.

>>59117895
Also "Arbol" from the Spanish word for tree. The Pokemon's name is literally "Olive Tree" but in Spanish.

>>59117954
>>59117961
Sorry, I'm not a subeater. I didn't know.

How can I get started and learn how to build an actually decent Standard deck on my own? I want to play at my local card shop. I don't just want to mindlessly copy others and buy a deck online but work with what I have and find in packs. Also I like normal type can I do anything decent with that? Can I do a no evolution deck. I've played a little but never built my own deck from scratch with a preconceived theme.

>>59117981
>How can I get started and learn how to build an actually decent Standard deck on my own?
You don't. Look up guides and tournament results.
>I don't just want to mindlessly copy others and buy a deck online but work with what I have and find in packs.
You won't get anywhere doing that and will likely lose every match you play. Use what works because it's been proven to work.
>Also I like normal type can I do anything decent with that?
One of the best decks in the format is Fighting type. You won't have a good time.

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>1st seed undefeated
>drops
fucking BR i was rooting for you

>>59117073
She is!

>>59117981
You can do whatever you want. I have a friend who comes to locals every week and loses every game he plays by doing many of the things you've mentioned. He seems to be happy enough just looking at the cards.

>>59117793
I was telling y'all for weeks

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I think my opponent is very confused.

>>59117408
Sex

>>59117619
BO3 (or even Swiss) is standard even in games without prizes or even without shields because there's just inherent randomness to any TCG that you want to mitigate with a larger sample size if you want to measure skill more effectively. Pokémon is actually a surprisingly consistent game despite everything, but it really shouldn't be BO1.

This new big basic slop deck is so fucking cringe.

>new

>slop deck
I hate Azul.

Business idea: Stephen's Metagross and Alakazam

Sloppy toppy deck

>>59118382
Sorry buddy, Gardy rotated out

>>59118472
Thank god, fuck her.

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I had this Cinderace ex deck that I really enjoyed playing, it was a rogue deck, but it was fun, it was my rogue deck. Anyways rotation has impacted the deck, and I am not sure if it is worth it to rebuild. My fear is that without Arven I can't tutor for Rare Candy as easily, so I am worried it won't be strong enough.

Do you guys think I should rebuild my Cinderace ex deck post-rotation, or should I let the meme be a dream?

>>59118653
I mean you can try.
There's a bunch of people running 3 stage mon decks, it's not like they are obsolete.

Professor I know got an email from TPCi, tl;dr
>Booster boxes will no longer be a thing due to non retailers buying too many and withholding packs from customers
>Sets will release in Booster Bundles starting after Chaos Rising
>Next set is called Flare Odyssey (Mega Heatran?)

>>59118715
What the hell is the difference between a booster box and bundle? Pack slop aside, I do hope the Mega Heatran is playable if this isn't just larp, I love its design.

>>59118653
You have to run either Meowth + Petrel or the Tera Slop engine.

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Mega Cleafable is the new Gholdengo

>>59118715

my dad works for the pokemon company and he's says you're full of it

>>59118721
Theoretically, boxes have a set 'hit rate' within its distribution (for example, every 2 boxes one SR).
Bubdles have nothing like that and are completely random on top of being much cheaper, so less valuable for secondary market/scalpers.
Kinda like the new issue with OP TCG which has one "big hit" per box but the small tins with few boosters are completely random.

>>59118715
ebin april fools day clown

>play alakazam
>opponent pulls out the rocket stadium
>realize my entire deck is bricked until I pull a stadium of my own
Jesus, that was painful. That was the reason they won.

>>59119130
Honestly I don't really give a shit about the collector aspect but if it makes all the annoying people that grade and try to build investment porfolios of pokemon cards go away I'll gladly pay triple for singles.

>>59119225
Bro you're already doing that with these scalper faggots. It just filters the hoarders from the people willing to gamble on the packs for resell.
I wish western pokemon wasn't such a dogshit shitshow of gambling and just went the JP route of smaller sets everywhere, where cards are way more common.
This whole model is biting them in the ass because they drag their feet in production. I can't even play the fucking game IRL because I don't want to drop a stupid amount of money just for singles. TCGL is unironically my cope because I'm too broke to afford to play this shit TCG IRL now a days.

>>59119225
I think prices might change for the stuff people collect, but if you want the basic versions of the cards it might not change much.

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>>59119289
>I can't even play the fucking game IRL because I don't want to drop a stupid amount of money just for singles.
the fuck are you talking about? you can build the best deck in the game from scratch for $50 and it's only that much because of the Unfair Stamp. You can probably find half the cards in the list in the bulk box at your locals.

>>59119369
Yeah, I want nice singles.
I could go pure poverty, but it's depressing. I'm a fucking boomer and enjoyed when alt arts would go for like 3-4 dollars tops instead 10+ per.
Shits stupidly expensive - and I'm not like talking about full art trainers and like staples like that. Just simple alt art of basic pokemon cards are going for stupid amounts.
Anything that's not the dirt common rarity is going for like either 10+ or close to it.

I need some kind of soul in my deck. Including when it comes to my trump/main star pokemon.

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>>59119432
>"I can't play the game if I can't be a blinged out rarity whore. Oh, woe is me. Whatever shall I do?"

Play Starmie

>>59117408
Cute

>>59119572
everyone on ladder is using shaymin

>>59119666
Starmie fad needs to die so I can be unhindered playing Olives

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>>59118614

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Are these bots or just really stupid people?

>>59119807
You won't believe how many people cannot read the cards for some reason.

Azul: "This deck <Arboliva> feels awful"
Me: This deck feels amazing.

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Easiest Master grind I've done so far. Basically uncontested.

>>59120149
What do you do about Crustle?

>>59120292
I press the surrender button and call the player a faggot.

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>>59120309

Team rocket murkrow's torment attack is so good now that people can't arven for air balloon anymore

>>59120292
Dolliv and win every 50/50.

>>59120292
On one hand I like it when they make random shitmon actually useful and viable, on the other hand Crustle is a nigger

>>59120149
No Meganium?

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>>59119521
It's called soul.
Same reason you play with full art lands in MTG. Why would you not play with beautiful and appealing card art?

For example, this? Dog shit, awful aesetic, awful art, it looks so god damn bad. It's a genuine eyesore. The fact this card is valued at 240 and was almost 500 a month ago? Fucking insult. These and ghost rares in YGO are a genuine insult to card art and the fact anyone values this slop because they are rare is a joke.

To be frank, I'm of the mindset that good art should be more common and not a rarity based thing. It's all FOMO shit to get you to gamble more on bullshit because the western design of the TCG is dogshit compared to the Japanese versions. 50 USD for a booster box (MSRP) with at least one SR and several ARs and the pool of cards are less bloated so you have better chances of getting shit you want/need instead of irrelevant slop.

I just believe we deserve better and scalpers are genuinely holding us back along with the international pokemon company's insatiable greed to turn the TCG into lowkey gambling and manufactured scarcity for no reason. Along with withholding specific cards for no reason. I'll never forgive them for withholding the hex maniac full art until 3 weeks before she rotated out, and threw her into a guaranteed Shaymin EX box which was also rotating out with it so the box was fucking worthless.

I love the game, but holy fuck do I loathe the methods and systems in place that systemically fuck us for no justification but money.

>>59120677
Meganium is bloat. If you get to the point where you need the Meganium that means you're already screwed.

>>59119968
Why does anyone watch him? He's a fuckboy dudebro who shits on everything just to get a reaction out of people. The XQC of Pokemon.

>>59120682
Budew? And yeah what would counter Crustle or how would you tech against it?
In locals

>>59120699
Budew is also (kinda) pointless. I don't get all of these players who demand so many options that they kill consistency. You go first. Preference is to start Pon. You don't do anything turn 1, Turn 2, you hope you have full combo (which is very likely), you retreat pon, put olives out, tree, evolve, either stretcher the energy or you have one. You can now rape your oponent with olives.

The strategy is brain dead. Either you have it or you don't. The only bad matchups I've seen are big basics which is probably why people tech the meganium / budew so you can just slow roll a Pon.

I'm a retarded schizo, so I play simplified decks.

>>59120679
>It's called soul.
It's called you being a bougie, pretentious fuck who can't play a game because your cardboard isn't shiny enough. If you actually gave a shit, you'd get cards to play irl and just play. But you'd rather do nothing and blame muh scalpers for ruining your experience instead. The text on the cards is all that matters, you don't need to oooh and aaah every time you draw lmao. I hope Live gives you all the soul you need.

>>59120699
I mean with arboliva you can just bench snipe all day.

>>59120679
>I loathe the methods and systems in place that systemically fuck us for no justification but money.
calm down rorschach

>>59120738
>J-Just pay the reseller scalpers who ruined the entire TCG economy already!!
>If you really cared you would just do it and only play with their discarded trash that they deemed worthless because of a rarity marking!
>Just play with visually noisy and ugly cards already!!
>You aren't entitled to the nice art cards anymore unless you pay hundreads! Just deal with it!
What a shit ultimatum man. Be soulless and have less fun, because of someone elses actions who don't even play these games fucking with the economy of the cards and STILL give them money on top of that because they bought out most of the stock and control it anyways!

>>59120749
Crustle plays a 4-4 Crustle line and no other Pokemon. The counter to Crustle as olives is to do exactly what I said here >>59120721 (me) unless for some reason the Crustle player got the perfect counter hand and you didn't mulligan 100 from the Crustle player being an actual schizo and only playing 4 Pokemon.

>>59120857
I love being a victim. I love everything being someone else's fault. I love it when they do it to me. I have no power. I can't do anything. I love it. I love when I have to do without. I love when I can wring my hands over how bad I have it. There are no options. There is no hope. I love suffering.

>>59120984
But everything you said, doesn't stop a Crustle and if that's true and EX counter decks have become that schizo that they just run 4 pokemon - you can't touch the Crustle.
Arboliva's [G] attack is damage, and not counters so it doesn't bypass the ability. What am I not understanding? How do you beat that?

>>59121047
You go first. Opponent cannot evolve on turn 1. Arboliva Turn 2. 1 dwebble dead and another at 30. If they don't have a Crustle they lose.

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>>59121059
>You go first. Opponent cannot evolve on turn 1
Are you stupid?

>>59121059
>You go first. Opponent cannot evolve on turn 1
if you go first you give your crustle opponent the chance to attack with dwebble which then turns into a crustle with a single crispin or energy attachment

>>59121059
Okay but, they can because of dewbble's attack that he can pull off turn 2.
So you're praying his turn 2, he doesn't get an energy or a poffin or you're conceding.

Your only strat/option is to go turn 2 for that to work. And you're still praying he doesn't pull a poffin or search to get 3 dwebbles on the board which at that point is GG.

>>59121042
Not going to lie, you just sound like a scalper whose trying to damage control at this point that they didn't rape the entire economy of a children's card game because of a boxer who overpaid for a shadowless charizard.
My complaints are valid. I'm not a victim, I'm living in a dogshit no longer functioning system, remember, and desire for the old system that worked that wasn't cucked by losers.

This is the equivalent of telling someone to eat bugs and they should like it.
I'm not an asshole for having not dogshit expectations of a better time and not wanting to look at shitty visually noisy cards. Terra pokemon among a few other cards were the worst designed things in this TCG in a very long while.

>>59121074
>>59121068
>>59121066
https://hownew.ru

>Still 3+ months before any meta change to counter dragapult
>IF the next set even has a counter or meta changer

>>59121162
Olives play well against Pult.

>>59121088
Have fun with your jpgs on Live, I guess. The cards are extra glittery there.

>>59121173
Still gets smacked with ghosts and it'll be even worse with red card soon enough. If dragapults strong now it's getting stronger then..

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>>59121234
Doom and gloom some more.

>>59121771
It's so fucking annoying now you just spam random useless cards with no fucking context. Please fucking kill yourself

>>59117533
People were hyping it because it does fairly well into dragapult but it honestly gets raped by unfair stamp, lily's clefairy, and arboliva.

wait, are olives actually a good deck and not a meme deck?

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how do we feel about mega zygarde

>>59122052
Hard countered by olives.

>>59122052
Bad

>>59122052
I saw an autistic child playing it at a LGS today, so it's stupid.
Also anything based on coin flips is fun gimmick, but stupid if you're trying to be competitive.

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>>59122041
It's the 4th most used deck after rotation. Take that information as you want.

>>59122052
I like the first and tool attacks. The 2nd attack is very weak for something that looks cool in the video games. I wish they did something else with it

>>59122052
Meme
Even if the 2nd attack didn't have a coinflip I don't think it would be good

>>59121042
Oh hey, as a follow up, I actually went to 4 of my LGS stores.
I could not find a single dudunsparse, hilda, or dawn. And all of them had the same story of most people now just throw away their bulk instead of giving it back to stores because all they give a shit about are the money cards.

So I'm justified in hatred, cause as expected I have to go to fucking online stores to get common ass staples because scalpers are hoarding the boxes and the ones that are opened, neanderthals are throwing away the bulk because they are only assed with cards that have value to resell.
Wasteful motherfuckers the lot of them, it was never this difficult getting basic trainers that everyone uses. It's a fucking wasteland.

>>59122163
Where can I see post-rotation decks?

>>59122309
Did you ask anyone? Nobody brings bulk to locals - you're supposed to buy it off of tcgplayer or ask if anyone has it. I will go to card shows to buy bulk and shit like Hyper Rare energies and if I can't find it there I buy it from tcgplayer. The most I'll trade for at locals is IRs/SIRs because that's the only stuff people binder.

>>59122314
Only one of 4 were hosting a league night tonight. And for some reason they started at 1pm on a fucking wednesday.
Because of that most of them were literal children on the spectrum and like two adult either NEETs or college students. But they were the ones who give off that weird vibe that they are super catty and clique-y so I didn't engage.

> Nobody brings bulk to locals
That's fucked up because I used to all the time for this exact reason. I remember helping new players sift through bulk and picking out staples that they would need to get started and they were always plentiful.

I know no players are going to have bulk on them, and I'm trying to run Alakazam. So a majority of my deck list is just bulk fodder. Took me like 3 hours but I found like 60% of it. There's nothing to find in binders for me either. I didn't want to wait a week for this bulk desu.

>>59122358
I don't know who in their right mind does locals on a Wednesday. Our two local Play Stores do it on Friday nights and Saturday. My philosophy on bulk is I will bring it in on request, I am not lugging a dozen ETBs worth of cards to locals every week, but I will bring cards on request (we have a Discord for this). My regular carry to locals is 4 decks, two playmats, and my damage counters tin which is pretty on par with what everyone else I know is running.
><NEETs at locals>
My locals is predominately 18-34 year olds, I'm the oldest at 36. We have one person underaged and he's 17. We also have 2-3 biological women that come in (our professor is a women) so we're probably not the standard. As far as I can tell nobody is unemployed and most have college educations.

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>>59122309
I'm so sorry that this is happening to you and that you've been thinking about it all day.

>>59122312
Pokecabook or look for city leagues at tcg limitless.
https://limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/jp

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>>59122371
MTG dominates around here.
I don't know if it's because Hasbro is(was) headquartered in Rhode Island or what. But fridays are FNM all day. Saturdays most people do YGO as a cope for them. Which means sundays for pokemon which are challenging, so pokemon gets mostly relegated to weekdays around here.
Wednesday isn't crazy - just hosting it at 1pm is crazy IMO.

And yeah most of the locals I've been to are normal. Just this store, it's new and I kinda realize the store name now isn't nonsense, it's political, and after looking at reviews. They brand themselves as a safe space LGS. So it makes sense why I saw the players I did. I might go to one of the other places and see if I can beg maybe.
Right now my battle is fighting TCG player and finding sellers who won't charge me 20 dollars on mailing 10 cent cards.

>>59122397
I haven't been just the past few hours where I've been trying to build deck for this weekend.

I must be the luckiest motherfucker in this thread. I can go to a different pokemon league each day during the weekend (sometimes multiple times a day on different stores) and they all are like 20 mins from me.

>>59122163
Do japs just hate zoroark or something? No way is worse than most of those, it's got a good pult match up. Why the fuck is mewtwo still around too

>>59122435
I'm in Massachusetts and it's literally just Commander.

>>59122467
Really? One of the places I went to tonight was doing Pauper.
I know commander was rising up in popularity, but I figured standard was still king. But... now that you mention it. FNM might not be standard anymore, they might just do another format now because standard became "BUY PAYPIGS BUY BUY BUY HERE'S THE NEW SET BUY IT RIGHT NOW IT'S A LIMITED RUN SO DON'T LET FOMO FUCK YOU!!" every 3 weeks. I know players were bitching about fatigue that they couldn't keep up/keep buying shit.

Kinda depressing. I was never a fan of commander myself.

>>59122485
I was at Pax East last weekend and the only TCGs anyone was palying outside of a dedicated event was Magic. I know my locals only does Commander, but I think they were just playing Standard. I don't know because I don't play that soulless game.

>>59122301
Without coin clips the second attack would be borderline game breaking

>>59122461
Zoroark is just a very awkward deck to play post rotation, that's just how it is. Without Arven you struggle looking for tools so your damage is subpar and juggling zoroarks around is not easy. Also Nest Ball let's you get either pecharunt or one of the dragons which is a huge deal, pokepad is just only good for darmanitan. Iono powerplays are also gone.

>>59122746
Outside a tech in lucario I don't see it being played in the current meta at least as it's own deck
>5 energy needs 3 acceleration types + over 2 turns
>Shaymin exists
>Teras exist (why do they even have that)

>>59122052
What were they thinking

>>59122776
Like... none of this is really true actually?

>>59122776
... what tools in zoroark?
You hit 240 with zekrom or vs dragapult reshiram ohko them if they hit into you. You can force that with psyduck

>>59122954
Zekrom+mochi+blackbelt hits for 330. It is probably less relevant without counter catcher in the format.

>>59122954
Mochi and balloon retard, how else will you get around the zekrom cooldown without fucking your attached mana, retard?
>inb4 pecharunt
Harder to look for it without nest and also a liability against pult.

If only there was a stadium that gave free retreat to N's pokemon then you could pecharunt switch back in..

>Relying on stadiums
As I said, awkward.

you can tutor any 2 cards by using ciphermaniac to reliably find mochi/stadiums/everything else, the only real loss is losing the extremely rare OHKO dragapult angle but ciphermaniac is reliable, fixes getting stamped, and zoroark already goes through the deck super fast so once you get them online the rest of the deck plays itself

>>59123203
>Ciphermaniac in Zoroark
The shit I have to read in this site.

>>59123236
>main card lets you draw 2 on command
>somehow it's bad in Zoroark and good in Kangaskhan and Gholdengo because it just is okay?

>>59123241
It is barely seen in Kangaskhan and dengo as a one-of if any and that's because it need another card to be useful (an evolution pokemon at that) while Arven is useful on its own. Again you are operating from an optimal scenario POV when you really have to address things don't go perfectly on curve most of the time.

>>59123246
I only ran it as a one of, but it's still a good card that lets you find key cards on demand which is very useful especially if you're running the pile and not the retardproof version with only the Zekrom/Reshiram. I agree Arven did too much for every deck and am personally glad it's gone, but it's not so dire of a deck to stop functioning without it, especially in the same format where Grimmsnarl is finding success without it when Grimmsnarl was one of the biggest Arven welfare recipients. There's so many ways to interchange your pokemon to get around Zekrom in the deck. For what it's worth, I don't think the solution is using Petrel either, because it simply doesn't do enough. I'm of the opinion that the deck is perfectly fine.

>>59123264
Yes, it is just "fine" that much I can agree with.

>>59123270
I'm afraid if you're wanting a deck on the same relative strength as Dragapult we'll all be left wanting for probably most of the year if not into the next. We have lost so many cards to rotation that left spaces too big to be filled by the likes of shit cards like Petrel. Mega Darkrai and Heatran are probably the best hopes since they're the featured cards of their sets that we know of but I'm not holding off hope considering the most recent batches of cards they've put out.

Would Drakloak work as an engine in non-Dragapult decks, or would it be too much investment to be worth it?

>>59121088
Dude, secondary market has entire decks costing a handful of dollars. Scalpers ruin it for collectors, not for the actual players. At least not in Pokemon.

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BUY SINGLES FUCKING SCHIZOS

>>59122987
N's stadium anon. You can ultraball for pecharunt. Thats why you draw 7+ cards a turn.

>>59122461
one zoroark got 12th at the last CL so they're still playing it.
>>59123401
a drakloak engine is a lot of cards but it works. dengo was using them before genesect released and was still getting t8. with tm evo gone it is a bit harder to set them up but you can probably just budew while you're working on it. however dundunsparce might be a better engine just because they can't get trapped like loaks can.

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Are either of these cards good enough build a deck around or are the basically just here to look nice and I should just go grab some tournament winning list

>>59123903
Left: Yes. Froslass is used all of the time: https://limitlesstcg.com/cards/ASC/47/decklists/jp
Right: No, that's just a shittier version of Lillie's Clefairy ex.

>>59123911
Guess I'll try buy a deck for left, much obliged. Wasn't sure if it was gonna be a trap card for new idiots like myself.

I'm gonna try olives on Live today.

>>59123757
Read >>59122309
All my LGSs are a wasteland of bulk commons because scalpers and value hunters just throw away every card that isn't worth money.
Instead of giving them back to a LGS and getting maybe 10 bucks, they would rather just throw them away and fuck the entire card economy.

So now I'm sitting for two weeks waiting for shipping having to spend 20+ on said shipping from TCG player because I had to order from 11 vendors and I'm paying them 20 cents but 4-5 dollars in shipping for worthless cards since I have no other option to get them. Absolutely abysmal. One of them unironically tried to charge me 20 dollars on fucking USPS tier shipping.

>>59124006
Let's figure out a Crustle counter since the other guy can't
I'd say we add a dusknoir line or lopunny or munki
or can we just hit it in bench with Fez

What's the best Pult list right now? I want big spread damage and multiple prize cards at once. Is Pultnoir still the best archetype for that?

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>>59124101
Different anon, played against enough Crustle to have some insight.

Budew until you have a Meganium with 2 energy, stamp when Budew is KO'd. If they set anything else up behind it (Munkidori, Dwebble) then take it out with Arboliva. Use your bosses wisely. You can also attack with Noctowl to finish off a Crustle if you need it. Enhanced Hammer could also be worth playing to lower their HP and possibly get another free turn.

If you want to get real spicy, there's the Bulu that deals 220 for 4 energy (could play Eswitch for quick charge) or this Pinsir

>>59124112
Just copy the list used by touching grass and having sex.

>>59124112
yeah pultnoir is the best one for huge multiprize comeback turns. the other builds don't really use noir except maybe the noctowl builds but you can use a 1-1 noctowl line in pultnoir too. the blaziken builds might be better in the meta if there's more arboliva in your area

So I've run into that water ogrepon that uses Sob and locks you down from retreating.
Is the only answer to that bullshit using switch?

>>59124182
Switch, kieran, surfer, pecharunt-ex, evolving, devolving, or blocking effects from attacks (mist energy, stone energy). Or having more munkidori than your opponent to keep damage off (doesn't work if they sudowoodo for 0 damage)

>>59124101
How about I accept I will lose.

>turn two unfair stamp every game
mental retard design

>>59123903
Froslass is retardedly OP and I'm shocked it hasn't caught on more yet

>>59124568
You can only have one in your deck though, so it's balanced.

>>59124578
Mega froslass is too easy to play around as soon as you see a snorunt on the board. And no one is playing salvator to make it a surprise option.
You no longer have iono to 6 for 300 damage anymore either.

>>59124585
LITERALLY all you have to do is pair it with mega Starmie. gg2ez

>>59124101
You already have one in Meganium. Just power them up lol

>>59124578
it was used in a greninja deck in the most recent champions league and it'll probably show up this weekend for orlando in munkidori frosslass decks

>>59124033
The other anon said it all tho. You want bulk? Find the LGS's or other local chat groups and tell people what you want and they will bring it, nobody brings their bulk everytime they go to the LGS.

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>>59119432
I just use the free prize pack league stamped cards I get for playing in my decks to bling them out now.

>>59124863
I don't know if it changed in the past 6 years, but as far as I knew we never had like dedicated group chats outside of cliques for like LGS shit.
Maybe since discord is popular now, maybe people are running those but I have absolutely no ear to the ground on how to reach out besides going to events which is tonight.

Still absolutely sucks ass that LGSs no longer just have the bulk available. Also the fact that fucking packs are like almost 10 dollars per when they used to be 3 for 11. How the fuck did the price go up that much? Is everyone just buying from scalpers or did the pokemon company spike the suggested MSRP out of greed because of scarcity?

>>59124967
with the release of SV, they increased the price of a single booster to $4.5, but that's before scalpers.
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/pokemon-tcg-scarlet-violet-brings-changes-to-the-pokemon-trading-card-game

>>59125048
I'm seeing boosters go for double RN, and now bundles going for almost double MSRP if they are still holding the 4.50 MSRP. Insane.
I feel like a boomer who talks about when bread was 50 cents a few decades ago.

What does Arboliva do against Shaymin? Just Boss and kill it and hope they don't bring it back?

>>59125292
Yeah. The best case scenario is to hit it with Meganium so you can try to force a 1-1 trade at the very least, but Shaymin really fucks this deck up. Personally I just like to hold olives in the hand until I can play forest into the entire tree, because if you do then your opponent has to guess whether you're playing the good deck (olives) or the bad one (venusaur). Shaymin really fucks this deck up unfortunately, but that's also going to be a slightly less severe problem when we get Beedrill, since it functions as a strong attacker alternative on a beefier body than Ogerpon,

What can I play to make these fucking Niggerpon playing faggots suffer as much as humanly possible? I am off the back of my 5th ladder loss in a row to shitass Grass decks that just get to ramp and do whatever they want. I want them to be disallowed from having fun.

If only there was a fighting ogerpon that was immune to 95% of grass decks..

>>59125451
I would make a shitty response to this but I forgot about Cornerstone Ogerpon, you got me. What's a good shell to run it in other than Absol Box? I want to be as fool-proofed as possible to prevent them getting anything for free.

>>59125461
Terabox or lucario, just don't overbench turn1 until you figure out what you're vsing or you give them enough gust outs
Or go full pettiness and run crustle walls with it

>grass gets the first playable deck in over half a decade
>not even top 3
>manchildren still find ways to cry about it
lol

>>59125486
theres also that barbaracle and okidogi deck that plays cornerstone. I've played it a bit and it seemed alright right now but it might not be good until the spinner set

>>59125489
They hate anything that's good because it won't let them play the trash they want to play. Anything that's better than their jank homebrew needs to be banned.

>go to a trade night in a cope/hope for hilda/dawn
>don't find any
>Learn my old decks are worth hundreds of dollars and so is my trade binder
>make 400 bucks tonight getting rid of old full art cards and still have some for sentimental reasons
Insane.
Still no closer to finishing my deck for Saturday. But I met a guy who said he will be there and will let me bum his deck.
So at least I can hang out at a local?

Also a lot of these sellers/collectors will really not value shit like full art judges and shit which is insane to me. And all of the professor's research full arts are like 1 dollar too. Like those won't spike back up as soon as research is reprinted again in a few months like it always is.

I got a binder from a pokemon center in Japan, outside of the fact that pages are impossible to get, how many pages is it safe to have on that binder? It's really pretty and all but really low quality.

I think I've gotten more competitive playables from ripping the halloween trick or trade set than any of the real sets that have released so far.
>>59125870
>>Learn my old decks are worth hundreds of dollars and so is my trade binder
my $5 UR zards are worth about $20 a piece now. it pays off being a playerchad sometimes
>Also a lot of these sellers/collectors will really not value shit like full art judges and shit which is insane to me.
majority of them only got into the card business a couple years ago after watching tik toks. I love them, really easy to get nice deals from them since they're desperate to move cards too.

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>>59125893
My only argument with those types is that ALL of them will call everything LP.
I had things in that binder that went from pack to sleeve, into my binder and they were calling them LP. They didn't try to outright shark me, but their status quo was to basically say anythin mint/near mint was LP.
The cards I played with? Sure I get the LP. Pic rel from pack quality was LP. So I have zero clue in their eyes what mint is because cards get fucked in boxes all the time with roughed edges.

>>59125449
>What can I play to make these fucking Niggerpon playing faggots suffer as much as humanly possible?
banning fogp and not printing good grass cards in ages was not enough?

Wanna "upgrade" from playing TCG pocket to the real thing, what should I consider as a first time joinee for TCG?

>>59125963
It's a bit outdated, but this should still apply
https://www.justinbasil.com/deck-building

>>59125963
I don't remember them offhand, but if you play on TCGL there's a handful of codes you can probably use to fix the free decks they gave out recently which you should also get when you log in. Otherwise, just steal shit from Limitless tourney results and do some research to figure out why they run the cards they do.
>>59125959
I bet his gay ass is on a better deck too

>>59125959
I don't mind Grass being playable. What I do mind is Ogerpon existing in the same space as Meganium and Forest. It sure is "fun" and "exciting" to get my ass blown out by Ogerpon getting to come in, get 2 energy (that count as 4 teehee), draw a free card, and one-tap whatever the fuck is on the board if I've gotten to do any set up.

>>59126016
I don't think Rocket's Mewtwo counts as a better deck, but your mileage may vary.

>>59125963
Figure out the rule differences between pocket and the real TCG.
TCG doesn't work off of a point system. They use prize cards. Energy isn't free supply, it's part of your deck. Games will take about 20 mins or so. And I think pocket limits what pokemon are/aren't available in game.
Power creep is different.

Outside of those, the only thing I would genuinely suggest is just play some games with the decks they provide you. They are good enough to play against a majority of people if not almost 1:1 a net deck.
If you like the game and want to expand/explore decks, the best way to do so in TCGL is buy like 200 codes from a reseller for like 20 bucks. Redeem them, you will get a fuck load of a golden ticket currency from duplicate pulls from those packs, and you can just use that to build/buy any deck you could wish and then some.

selling codes hmu

>>59125963
I wish people read the op.

>>59126110
nta but
>4 year old image guide in OP
>No cards there are legal anymore to serve as a good reference
>Imgur links bongs can't even view

>Pastebin is 5 years old and talks about PTCG online instead of live
>Majority of the info doesn't help anymore because that

I don't blame people for not reading the OP, it's honestly way too outdated to be of any help now

>>59126499
The very first reply to that post was a link to justinbasil, which is in the op. Nine times out of ten, any time someone comes in asking how to start, some anon just gives a link that can be found there. No matter how outdated parts of it may be, it's still useful.

>>59126038
Rocket's Mewtwo is not a good deck, but it counters the Meganium Grasspon beautifully because Mimikyu one shots it if they use a Meganium.
Despite being called Rocket's Mewtwo, the ones who actually do the big job are the supporters, Articuno, Mimikyu and Spidops while Mewtwo is usually the unfortunate 2 prize.

Any Arboliva pre-rotation decks? Will participate in Orlando this saturday

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>>59126992
Thinking of doing this but might switch out Lana for Super Rod

Why are we not using the new grass energy for grass decks?

>>59122485
>>59122467
Oh hey, other new england bros. Magic is all commander at the two stores I frequent, plus people show up for prereleases. Both stores have solid Riftbound and Lorcana populations, one of them has flesh and blood, yugioh, and even Elestrals (which is yugioh with Pokémon aesthetic and more interesting resource system).

>>59127037
Does it count as a grass energy while in hand? Otherwise you can't cycle it with pon.

>>59127115
It doesn't but you can manually attach it

>>59127037
Why would you? +20 HP on something isn't worth having less Teal Dance outs throughout the game.

>>59127037
this ain't glc

>>59127000
super rod seems good maybe energy switch too? removing 1 pokegear

Why don't any of the Slowking decks I've seen run either Haxorus? With the number of big basic Megas and people running mist or rocky fighting energy to counter Zam a one-off of either seems like a good idea, especially with Poké Pad now.

>>59127122
Anon...

>>59127000
>>59127161
Not a bad idea but I think Lana is too valuable

Any other suggestions?

>>59117053
What the fuck did you do to Talonflame?

>>59127248

Read mist and rocky energy bucko

>>59127829
Ok yeah my brain smooth, I realised that after I posted, but the basic killer Haxorus still deals with the big megas without killing Slowking as well (looking at Annihilape)

>>59126670
I wouldn't rely on that too much, eventually it's gonna go down since they can't pay for the website to stay up anymore. Who knows if someone will archive it

Stall decks are cringe and people who act toxic when playing them are the biggest faggots in the world.
Emote spamming wasting 8 turns with totodile is such a dick move.

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>>59126992
If you want specifically Arboliva and not the post-ro version, I was playing one with Dusknoir a while back but it's hard carried by Arven. This is the list I was running to try it out (offscreen is energy), but I think in hindsight I would find a way to put 2 Arven in, -1 budew and something else, probably band or nest ball. Band gives you extra damage only on the active, so you need to hit the active once for it to proc but I didn't use it that much but the 2 Ignition were nice to OHKO any 320- hp dark. I found a lot of success with it, especially when you could pop Dusclops and get rid of annoying things like 1 dreepy 1 drakloak, but you need Dusknoir for 2 drakloak. Alternatively, you could run a Hawlucha since a lot of basics tend to be 70hp now and take 2 early but I don't know how consistent that is since I didn't try it.

>>59128197
Actually valuable cards should be kept in top loaders or those magnetic slab like things, binders are not good for cards.

>>59125308
NTA but as soon as I see any grass deck I play Shaymin.

>>59128014
>Check their domain expiration date
>2nd of june
60 days left until justinbasin goes down for good..

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Doubladebros? Do we have a functioning deck at all?

>>59128368
I'm sure you'll get a second double energy eventually before genesect+ignition rotates and you can have a consistent deck.

>>59128379
Hilda finds the Energies fine. It's searching for the Genesect and baby mons that's tough, at least to the point where you're hitting the big numbers needed to knock ex mons.

>>59128363
Yeah, Shaymin sucks but I just try to take as many avenues as I can to obfuscate the deck I'm on until I can swing with Arboliva.
>>59128368
I've been playing this some, but I haven't been able to get around the annoyances of finding Honedge. I was thinking about just playing Steven's Metagross instead of the Metang for energy, since you're running mandatory bench liabilities already I figured having consistent energy attachment would be better than losing off of Metang shit, but if I do I would consider running something to take advantage of the Psychic energy that isn't Lillie's Clefairy since the point of the deck is to swing big with Doublade. I like the single prize Clefable that has attack copying but I don't know if it's worth actually running or what you'd actually use it for and it also feeds into the annoyance of finding basics you already struggle with. Someone else posted a Doublade list a few days ago with Trolley as well if you want to find it.

Bought 3 packs of Perfect Order, two yesterday and one today. All three packs had reverse Landorus and 2/3 had a Gengar holo as the rare.
Fuck this set.

dumbass

so what do you guys want them to print? i hope mega heatran works with burns personally but as long as its playable i'll be happy

New set reveal when?

>>59128950

like a month from now

>>59128903
another draw supporter but one that's not as strong as lillie

>>59128903
a good playable ho-oh

>>59128903
I want two sided ability lock to return

>>59128903
Coombait Lusamine art.

>come to lgs event
>shop opens up at 10 when the event starts
>get here early thinking I could trade before event
>40+ year old lanky dude ripping darts with a plastic toy sword practicing his imaginary swordsmanship waiting for the shop to open
Ah yeah... this is why I stopped doing locals for tcgs... where are all the fucking normies everyone says are at their local events.

>>59129966
Is the blade scholar bothering you? You sound like a bitch.

>>59129966
>where are all the fucking normies everyone says are at their local events
here most arrive just a bit early or at most 10 minutes late so we wait for them. Some people go only to trade but they get there later to catch players in between rounds or after the event ends. Those that play also stick around a bit afterwards to buy/trade/sell.

>>59130159
I mean he was standing on the steps infront of the door. He didnt even come in, just effectively like blocked the door and didnt allow us to at least line up.

>>59128903
A ton of fossil support. That, or just get rid of the shitty "you have to play the fossil as an item hurr durr enjoy itchy pollen nerd" bullshit. Just have Tyrunt be a basic etc.

>>59128903
A playable Butterfree for a change. Vivillion has a good ability and Beedrill has some legs as a playable, but not super competitive, archetype. If those two can get it then the best bug should get a decent card as well.

>Dragapult player slow playing on his drakloak abilities on purpose to force a draw
>Once they are in turns he suddenly cleared all his mental fog and played iono + budew superfast
What a rat.

>>59130520
If the best bug should get a decent card, then I have high hopes for Ribombee

>>59131125
Some TCG players are absolutely fucking animals man. Those people are the ones trying to shark 10 year olds in trades to steal their value and give them a goose egg.
I used to hang out with people I knew from elementary school who would do this shit and I just refused to hang out with them. Watching mid 20 year olds scam children and early teens to brag about their binder value is disgusting. Zero morals.

>>59131125
dragapult abusers are the greasiest fucks we've had the misfortune of dealing with for a long time

>>59131958
>playing a deck means you're abusing it

>>59131958
hey at least you don't play expanded

>>59131958
You think Dragapult created these greasy fucks or have they always lived among us and will just jump to the next shitty BDIF

I don't understand the hatred toward people who want to play good decks to win games.

>>59132074
just evolve the Drakloak lil bro

personally i just think its cringe to play time because you know you've lost

>open the game
>queue into a dragapult player
>boss his drakloak up, stamp him and put him on energy to win
>plays his turn, finds zero energy, and goes completely afk
lol

>>59132074
The match was against a gardy so it is not a powerlevel complain. Some faggots will sit to ponder on every drakloak activation. Ngga it's just two cards, you don't need to check your hand twice and your discard pile thrice to decide between boss orders or counter catcher.
Of course not all pult players are like this and it is not limited to that deck but somehow these kind of players tend to gravitate towards dragapult.

>>59128903
Machamp or Golem but good

this set fucking blows

>>59132683
What do you mean? Meowth is an instant staple, so is that special psychic energy. Doublade makes for some interesting memedeck as well, then you have starmie which is a good alternative to grimms.
I'd say it is alright, not great but not a nothingburger either.

>>59132683
I think this set has some good cards and fun decks it's not as bad as phf was

>>59132687
Meowth is good in everything, that's 1/30ish cards in a set that might not be throwaway trash
Telepath energy is broken but only psychic bullshit can use it (fine, i just dont give a shit about psychic 99% of the time)
Doublade is meme tier, might be as good as honchkrow (take that as you will) if we get a way to find basics easier
Starmie is just worse Grimmsnarl, which I already play
For the first set to come out after a big ass rotation, you'd hope for something with potential. At least next set we're getting a few options. A lot more than this set anyways.

Ninja spinner isn't much better for changing the meta. It just enforces dragapult even more..
And the next JP set is delays 2 months. It'll be the darkrai one so who knows if it will even change the meta. Lucario will probably keep it down from toppling dragapult

>>59132747
Yes but at least it has some more options for some decks starting to get represented. Beedrill, Greninja, a little metal support, slowking gets 300 damage as an option, Delphox is actually pretty decent, sadly a stage 2 but playable. Red card, some poison support, some more special energy but only the metal will probably see use

I have made everyone at my locals apologize to Gardevoir

for what it's a good thing that card is gone

>>59132772
In terms of "playable" cards it's around the same as perfect order. but the fact it doubles down on dragapult with red card is an overall negative for meta diversity

Neither are great sets, it's only bearable right now because rotation just happened so it's still different. The extended wait for the next darkrai set in july is going to be painful. If that set doesn't have some meta impacting cards it's going to be extremely boring having the same post-rotation meta for 6 months (which is when the rayquaza set will come out SURELY that would shake it up)

>>59132841
>which is when the rayquaza set will come out SURELY that would shake it up
Reprint Sky Field and MegaFug, adjust its damage for modern times. It's fine if its broken because Clefairy will benefit from Sky Field as a counter.

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>>59132845
>Terapagos/area zero cope version of megafug is still around for 6~ months
I don't think we'll get a reprint of the og megafug archetype since it currently exists in a neutered fashion..
Might just be the new raging bolt energy drop deck. but probably something new archetype wise since it's bound to get a whole package deal like megafug did before

>>59132841
>but the fact it doubles down on dragapult with red card is an overall negative for meta diversity
Osaka says otherwise
>>59132845
Reprint Chaotic Swell I beg

>mfw I queue into the ladder with honchkrow on a weekend night to farm all the no lifers playing crustle

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>>59133074
whoops

>>59132019
of course i play expanded
you play expanded by flipping a coin
whoever wins the coinflip wins the match 2 games to 1
use the saved money to buy cookies

>another retard DQ’d for shuffling face up on stream

when will they learn

>>59133328
When? Yesterday? Mind sharing the timesatmp

>>59133354
R9, I don’t have a time.

Also, /ourgirl/ is 10-1

>>59133386
You got the rk9 pairings?

>>59133354
https://xcancel.com/i/status/2040777217257472459

>shuffles face up
>draws 8 cards
You can even see the right judge look at him while he does this
https://www.youtube.com/live/8zD0FbC5a90?si=-EY_VtM2T0D147LT&t=28395

>throw your headset on the table and ruin the board state before you actually play the cards to win
>get a game loss
>cry about it on twitter

Makani Tran really living up to his trans name

>taking 2 tools or items off secret box
>popping off only to end up with a game loss
>bench sniping tera pokemon
why are so many people bad at this munkidori deck

>>59134041
he's a retard

Pokemon boomer here, if I wanted to learn how to play are the original 151 outside of maybe Charizard or Pikachu power crept and dead compared to any new Pokemon? Is it a Yugioh situation where cool older cards can't get much viable play?

>>59134740
Rotating format means you don't play with old cards but it also means pokemon get new cards to keep up with the game. I don't think there's any specific deck centred around any of the gen 1 mons right now beside an okay Mega Starmie and a not that good Mega Charizard, but popular gen 1 mons print too much money to not keep getting new cards so there'll be something sooner or later. Oh, and Meowth is good right now but it's a supporting card used for its on play effect and splashed into a variety of decks rather than a build around centerpiece. I might be forgetting something.

>>59134769
Right, I did forget: mega Venusaur is played in some grass decks but is arguably the worse of the options those have. Mewtwo and Articuno are played in Team Rocket decks but the latter is a defensive card and the former is usually not your main damage dealer, more of an occasional big play if the situation calls for it since it requires commitment and can backfire if the opponent has an answer to it.

>>59134041
Didn't this guy almost get canceled for unintentionally "disrespecting" some troon judge's pronouns last year? Now he's intentionally trying to start drama with one of the only big female players?

>PoGo player DQed for throwing his headset after winning finals
I know pokemon is filled with manchildren but people need to stop spazzing out

Gardy slop gets the rope

everything is slop to retards now

gardyslop
slopbox
metalslop
grassslop
slopbox (this one has absol)

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Shall we have one last dance, dear?
>To make pulties seethe?
Yes honey, to make pulties seethe.

I just won today's local tournament at my lgs with her, btw.

>>59134166
because munkidori taught them they can play like retards and still win so they feel no reason to actually learn how to play the game above the level of a trained chimpanzee

>>59134900
he didn't even throw them
don't believe everything you're told

>>59135425

I watched it, he threw them lol

>>59135425
I saw a clip but it had his hands cut off so it's hard for me to see exactly what happened

>>59135619
>it had his hands cut off
That's a bit of a harsh punishment just for throwing a tantrum

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>>59136546
Haha, wow, look at how diverse and varied our meta is. Everything has a chance to shine, no bad picks. Healthiest format we've had in a while.

>>59136563
and all of that has an objectively worse matchup spread than pult

>>59136779
nvm the image loaded you were being sarcastic
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Big tournament in Boston the first week of May and I'm trying to figure out which deck I want to pilot.
>Ogerpon-Arboliva
>Ogerpon-Arboliva-Meganium
>N's Zoroark (No Pech engine, no Darmanitan)
I could also run ChickenPult or BoltBolt but I don't think those would perform as well.

>>59136815
My criteria so far is
>play something fast that can run the Stage 2 decks off the board asap
>something that doesn't care if it goes first
That's left me focusing on Arboliva, Lucario, Tera Box, and ClefairyPon. I just want to get as many attacks in as I can

>>59136825
I love my Arboliva and Zoroark variants because neither of them care if they go first. Honestly Arboliva prefers going first.

>>59136830
That's why I like it. Even if you don't get Arboliva up on turn 2, you can still attack with Ogerpon to get things rolling.
Lucario is better going second, but if you're forced to go first, it just means you can attach to Riolu intsead of Solrock and respond with either Aura Jab or Mega Brave on turn 2. Same thing with Clefairy, it gives you an extra attachment and the attack on turn 2 anyway.

I want yo start playing the TCG, know the basics and all, what are the best current budget decks to get started?

>>59136877
I find you wanna go first in the hopes you can get a T2 jab, or mega brave

holy fuck the summer set's name goes so hard

>>59137065
Dragapult ex, it is the top of the meta, just be sure to pick a post-rotation list.
Every deck in pokemon is a budget deck.

>>59137327
Is that so? Maybe I was missinformed when they told me to look for budget decks, and probably should look at the top meta decks on limitless

>>59136563
This is genuinely a better meta than last format

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>>59137410
The only "expensive" cards are Meowth ex at $11 and Unfair Stamp at $17 because they're high-demand staples right now, but even with those, none of the top decks go above $100. Once you buy all of your staples, any new deck you want to build is like $30 for the core stuff you don't have.

>already shilling dlc in tcg sets
>half of the new megas are still missing
why are we rushing this hard if we won't have a new game until 2027?

>>59137873
Gen 10 isn't coming but that doesn't mean anything isn't. BW3 this holiday season, just you wait.

>>59137873

>not all megas got a print in the original mega run
>some retards here really thought we'd get all megas nowadays

I'd still be lmaoing if the stupidity wasn't so common

>>59138448
We will get them all bro... just believe...

>>59132067
They have always been in TCG games
In MTG these players are what we call control players. The run 1 win con in the entire deck, and all they do is stop you from playing the game while they wait to top deck their wincon.
They are the sole reason MTG standard is dead and everyone plays commander now.

>>59138448
>we will have to wait until 2040 to get mega chandelure
oh well

>>59138500
>They are the sole reason MTG standard is dead and everyone plays commander now.
Lets not get too crazy here, everyone plays EDH because WOTC doesn't give a shit about standard anymore. Unfortinately MTG is also plagued by the terrible game design of blue so unless they fundamentally change how blue works the game is going to forever be gay and retarded.

>mega darkrai

haven't they gotten the memo that gardevoir rotated

they don't need to print 20 different dark meta decks

>>59138538
don't worry, shiny mega gardevoir 2.0 will be weak to metal to shit on every single darkness deck

>>59138504
>WOTC doesn't give a shit about standard anymore
Is it because of the endless promotional sets they keep churning out that have zero balance? I mean I can see that also, but I still think every time when I used to play FNM and I'm spending 60 minutes each round staring at a phone because the blue player is on game 2 of 3 and they have yet to actually finish the game everyone else did 40 fucking minutes ago.

They could change the way blue works, but that requires giving blue literally any kind of deck mechanic or engine that is something other than denial of doing anything. Like if their control was something in form of a board presence like in pokemon, at least then people can try to do shit.
Regardless greasy motherfuckers who entire goal is to ruin the player experience of everyone around them has always been a thing. And no one whose normal/well adjusted likes them.

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>>59134900
So like, is this just judges overstepping and power tripping or what?
I mean if what he quoted is what was actually said about the action being "dangerous" and could hurt something or someone, that's fucking insane. It's a headset, a multi million dollar company can't fucking buy a new headset if it got minorly damaged?
Honestly this just screams troon judge power tripping and not enjoying anyone being happy or showing any sign of emotion at a victory. It's not like they are dancing or bragging. They got a win and got excited.
I see this shit all the time in competitive things. Imagine actually thinking the only way to celebrate a win is to behave like a statue and not react at all. Like that's ass backwards. The judges at this event on fucking crack, idk if they are like actual representatives of the pokemon company, or literal who professors/judges that they just get locally, but if they are this is just a huge blow to the company's reputation that's already in shambles.