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The Turn 2 Special.

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>>59138735

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>>59138785
>Go second
>Itchy Polen
>They kill my budew
>Turn 2 unfair stamp into night stretcher into budew into itchy pollen
LOVING EVERY SECOND OF IT

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What went right

>>59139974
Meowth ex

Why did they reprint that Dragapult card

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>>59139590
Reminded me to post mine

>>59139984
because you touch yourself at night

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Can someone please explain to me how this is being played? I genuinely don't understand how this card is useful

>>59140156
Free retreat basic that counters other free retreats, bulky enough that won't instantly eat shit to most early/mid game mons.

Or zoomers getting nostalgic for XY

>>59140156
Trapping good (that said Maractus can be better depending on the deck). Locking your opponent out of the attacks they want to use while you snipe their bench is a powerful thing to do.

>>59140156
Retreats for free so it sinergizes well with pecharunt. Having those two on field means all your pokemon virtually have no retreat cost. The clutch attack is a nice bonus, that way you can stall to catch up in case you get left behind your opponent (boss orders > fezandipiti/latias/etc > clutch)

>>59140156
Catches people lacking if they don't have Switch in their deck, especially now that Turo is gone.

>>59139828
I would close Live and uninstall

>>59140644
>Live
The greatest satisfaction in life is doing this irl and watching your opponent physically clench and sigh out loud. Almost on the same level of playing a devious devastating devolution, pure distiled dopamine.

>>59138781
>>59139277
But this is where the disconnect is. The judges claim the issue wasn't him fucking up the board state, and that they would have corrected it.
It's literally the act of taking off the headset and nothing else that caused the DQ because it was "dangerous".

If the cause of the DQ from the judges mouth was "you can't celebrate a victory" like it was for the Go guy, I'd just call the judges joyless fags. This is clearly the same intent, but for some reason, they refuse to state the same reason. So what the fuck is up with that incompetence?
Mind you, I'm not defending this guy, but clearly the judges have a disdain for people feeling joy when winning and want to punish them.

Like even if they said it was BM to celebrate before finishing the match. I'd get it, but it seems like that wasn't the problem.

Is it possible to break into TCG standard without breaking the bank
I want to go to my local shop and make friends.
I don't know how to play. How can I learn on my own

>>59140762
pokemon's standard format is the cheapest and most accessible out there. the easiest way to learn on your own is to download PTCGL on either mobile or desktop and play some games

>>59140762
tcglive to play the game online
finding and building a deck IRL can be a pain in the ass. Most LGS stores don't seem to have commonly used cards for sale, you're reliant on guys bringing bulk playable cards, which no one does unless it's upon request.
If you buy the cards from TCGplayer, you got about a week to 2 weeks of downtime before all your shit comes in. Budget 20-30 bucks for a meta deck.

Is ceruledge still the fastest ladder deck?

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Now that I think about it, this was probably the best thing any new player could've bought last year.

>>59140781
>Most LGS stores don't seem to have commonly used cards for sale,
This entirely depends on where you are. Around here (Mexico) most stores have plenty of readily available singles

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>>59140971
>tfw I bought the garde deck instead

What's the average age herem. I'm in my late 20's and not sure how weird it would be to get into this now.

>>59141182
18-34 at my locals. I don't know any children that play.

>>59141182
I would bet my left nut most anons here are at least 30. Most people who play at my local store are in their late 20's - mid 30's. It makes absolute sense when you consider pokemania was at its peak around year 2000.

>>59139828
it wouldn't be so bad if 80% of the playerbase wasn't doing the exact same thing to the point where you might as well be against bots

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>market price is $5.52
The perks of not being a waifumon.

>>59140002
>>59139590
Thanks bros! A few were taken but I got the rest, just came back to the game after being out since lugia V rotated.

>>59141182
there's kids at my locals but they're all there because their dads are into the game so average is probably 30s or late 20s

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>counter catcher and iono have rotated so the apes have to cling to the one other way to just meat puppet every game

...is what my post would say if I were just saying shit that doesn't mean anything.

>>59141182
34 but just rejoined because my 5 y/o is super into pokemon and I play other tcgs (lorcana is my primary, fuck magic post 2020)

Arboliva with Noctowl or without Noctowl?
3 or 4 Ogerpons?

>>59141752
I was meaning to look into this more because I was seeing Japanese people do it, and my first game I drew both and won turn 2 and then I started playing Deadlock so I haven't played any other games. I'm not really sure why it's a 1-1, so I was going to try both it and 2-2 but I'm not sure what I would take out of my pile for it, but the idea itself seems fine. I'm running 4 Ogerpon regardless because I already mulligan a lot more than I feel like I should.

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>>59141770
I'm using this at the moment

>>59141783
Just testing it out, it feels good but I've had the Noctowl prized more often than not so hard to get it, I don't know if my Live is bugged but it's been 4 games prized in a row

>>59141783
This is the list I'm running at the moment, just with 11 energy and 2 stretcher, and then -2 eswitch for a 4th ogerpon and 3rd pad. I thought about Eswitch when first playing the deck but I opted not to but I've also yet to run into a scenario where it would have gotten me a knockout so take that as you will.

>>59141791
Nah I agree with you, I think if you get it early and you're able to get a kill turn 2 with Ogerpon it's good but that's unlikely, 2 stretchers might be better

>>59141275
>fossile
Shame, it should be good in the Starmie deck

>>59141788
Just dog shit luck.
I could have won 40 bucks in locals today and it all hinged on 4 cards in my deck one of them being a hammer so I could kill a mega lucario, and run away drawing the other 3 cards I didn't need.

At a certain point, it just all comes down to luck desu.

>>59141752
the noctowl line seems good in the deck but I've rarely seen it get set up since arbolivia relies on bug catcher to get anything and your bench is usually clogged with ogerpons.

We may complain about the live devs a lot with all the card bugs and interactions
but least the VGC players are getting the same treatment in their new client KEK

https://x.com/CayenneVGC/status/2041773048781480404

>>59144994
Yes but does Dragapult actually have a Focus sash held?

>>59145371
Not any more

Is that single prize Okidogi deck any good?

Half of my friends are playing grass slop so Zoroark is out of the picture. Either I run Grass slop or bring out Pult...

>>59146040
it felt good when I played it
>>59146304
blaziken pult is great against the grass slop decks. especially if you include the shaymin.

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>>59146333
I have a list for it but I don't have a ton of practice with it. I guess I can try it out.

>>59146371
>I don't have a ton of practice with it.
in my experience it plays like a pult deck except now you don't have to worry about energy attachments anymore.

>>59146304
>mad cause he wasn't invited to the festival

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>>59146304
>calling other decks slop
>playing pult

>>59141607
Is lorcana fun? It looks interesting but it would be difficult for me to not feel like an enormous faggot playing it in public

>>59146952
It's fun, less "mental upkeep" and angle shooting opportunities than Magic but built on the same frame. Having most cards usable as "lands" is a nice change. No instants makes it less "feel bad" but is the source of the lower complexity.

The player base tends to be far more female and fewer traditional gamers or sois than other tcgs, in my experience. The art is top tier, if you like Disney. Pixar coming in the next set, Mayish release date.

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What is the endgame for the ogerslop deck?

grass is bliss

I just bought a MEG box because I need 1x Meganium for friday.

>>59147779
Replaced by Beedrill because this is Arboliva's deck

>>59148638
>just get rid of your draw engine bro
Lmao. Beedrill is more likely to replace Arboliva and or Meganium than the one card that makes the deck function.

>>59148958
History has already proven you wrong

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This is what I ended up with.

>Waited ages for rotation
>It's here
>Barely logged in and not even made/netdecked anything
What keeps you motivated

>>59149395
r commanding for 320

>>59147144
Interesting. Is it better than Pokemon? I'm a Disney Parks fag but generally don't care about any of the characters other than Mickey and the gang

>>59149247
I like it, I ended up playing noctowl one today went 2-2 at my local only got to use noctowl once

>>59147144
Having a lot of functional lands is kind of lame, since it incentivizes just throwing bullshit in and ignoring consistency because at minimum they're just going to be land cards as opposed to having them be inclusions you're mindfully putting in. I haven't played Lorcana though, so the actual scenarios might not be the same but I don't like the idea on paper.

>>59140781
>finding and building a deck IRL can be a pain in the ass. Most LGS stores don't seem to have commonly used cards for sale, you're reliant on guys bringing bulk playable cards, which no one does unless it's upon request.
Yeah, thats true. But at the same time it takes one day for you to go to a LGS or two, talk to people, see if there is any online group chat (discord or w/e). If there isnt, still you can ask people and they will bring it soon enough that its easier than buying online and waiting for shipping.
The downside is that you need social skills to talk to people.

Rocket decks, adding a Shaymin in the current Live Meta is not a bad idea.
It will reduce your Spidops damage and it will be a bit brickier, but there are way too many Mega Starmies for some reason.
I just had 3 matches in a row against Mega Starmie Mega Froslass decks and I destroyed them with a Battle Cage (because of the annoying Munkis and Froslass) and Shaymin combo.
I think those decks runs 2 or 3 ruisky ruins so I am seriously planning to have 2 Battle Cages and 2 Rocket Factories instad of my current 2 Rocket Factory and 1 Battle Cage.
Shaymin needs to be recovered with Stretcher unlike the Tarantoula/Spidops which I recover them with Sacred Ash since I can find them quickly using Proton or Poffin.
I don't know why Live players are using Mega Starmie deck.

>>59149931
Mega Starmie is fun
Any good MStarmie decks out there? I like it with Froslass not Dusknoir

>>59149720
>a LGS or two, talk to people
It's only helpful if you have lurkers who just sit around and play pokemon all day.
New england area? Fucking forget it, the only lurkers in LGS stores are MTG players. The only time I'm seeing pokemon people are during actual events/tournies.
And it is 100% easier to get people to bring you the shit you need, versus TCG player, but it's still lowkey a good amount of work. It took me like a week, visiting 4 LGS stores, and going to like 3 different events to fully build my alakazam deck. Granted, I did get a lot of other cool shit, and I'm going to hoard full art professors research since they are a dollar right now, they will go up in price when it gets reprinted like always.
It's a shame I think most of the antagonists from pokemon look stupid outside of Geovanni and of course his full art is 30 dollars. Lustamine boss's orders when?

>>59149981
I guess you have to build something similar to Marnie's Grimmsnarl, but with Risky Ruins instead of her stadium. You replace the Impidimp line with Staryu line and add 2 Mega Froslass.
Poffins will fill your bench because the Snorunt and Staryu are only 70hp, but you need to find the Munkis with pads.
You only need 1 water energy to attack so Wally will help. I don't know if Ignition energies are worth it or not for Starmie's 2nd attack, you can perfectly use Mega Froslass to do the big damage and Crusltes are not that popular (and you can deal with them with your Munki anyways).
Finding the water energy to start attacking and a dark energy to move the damage counter around is going to be a challenge since you don't have that many drawers in that deck.
You need to be careful with Boss Order due to the small chance that your opponent has a Shaymin.

>>59150051 (Me).
Forgot to mention Salvatore, he allows you to attack in your first turn if you go second.
Something like starting with Staryu/Snorunt and going second, using an Ultra Ball go search for Meowth so you can use Salvatore so you evolve, charge an energy and start attacking right away.

Grimmsnarl's still pretty good.

>>59150786
Yeah. I thought it would suffer the most after rotation but it's in surprisingly good shape.

>>59149623
Idk about better, but it's very different. It doesn't have the same sort of search -> build -> payoff flow.

cumming inside pult players…

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REMINDER
Today is the last day you will ever be able to play BEST GIRL Gardevoir ex before it's gone forever. Same applies for Tera charizard and Goldengho. You better rush to your local tcg store to kiss them goodbye.

>>59151841
S to spit

>>59151883
SEETHE Pultie
Never forget who fucked your ass during more than half your lifetime lol

>>59151914
Both your decks are anti-fun trash.

>>59151914
>implying I play Pult
Cry harder, waifupleb

>>59151963
Ah sorry lucariosister *raises paw* owo~
You will be fwee to get out of your closet safespace tomorrow :3 no more meanie gard*voir bullying you anymowe!!!

>>59151841
Gayest and most annoying card in fucking history. Gas all Gardniggers

>>59151941
>Fun decks = unplayable jank trash
Never understood this notion by some tcg players. There is nothing more fun than winning so for me Dragapult and Gardevoir are fun decks.

>>59151841
V.1 gardy was based
V.2 and V.3 were dog shit and can forever fuck off

>>59152046
>There is nothing more fun than winning
Nothing fun about easy victories where you do the same thing 80 times because there's only one way/one solution to winning.
Same reason I don't find it satisfying or fun to play against retarded 10 year olds.

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>It seems like my superiority has led to some controversy
NEVER FORGET
THE QUEEN OF 2025
HER LEGEND WILL LIVE FOREVER

>>59152080
It is really funny how you equated off-meta shitters with retarded 10 yo kids.
You know what is really fun? Opening sealed product I won thanks to people like you inflating the prize pool with your entrance fee and showing up with venusaur or some other turd like that lol

>>59151841
Nobody's gonna stop you from continuing to play Mega Gard

>>59152102
>It is really funny how you equated off-meta shitters with retarded 10 yo kids
I'm not, I'm talking from genuine experience of playing against literal retarded 10 year olds and how it's absolutely not satisfying to win against them in tournaments.
It was a dogshit feeling, winning means fuck all if it's easy, thoughtless and not a challenge.

Those two decks suck because they are OP slop that has one method of play, no adversity, or challenge, just overtuned.

>>59152128
>that has one method of play,
But that's all decks, if anything Gardevoir and Dragapult are some of the highest skill expression decks in the meta, like, only stuff like pidgeot control is higher. Now charizard or goldengho are truly braindead decks that do the same shit every game except I never see anyone bitching about them.

>>59152145
Before I took a break, everyone was constantly bitching about Charizard him and Chien Pao ex. He just released and everyone was fucking seething about him.
I wasn't around for the initial dragapult release, but I can only imagine people glazed him because it literally ignored the biggest problem about tera pokemon and their innate immunity to bench damage.

>>59151841
Rest in piss.

>>59152128
>>59152145
Linear decks are consistent and consistent decks win tournaments. That's an unfortunate truth that underlies the trend - in nearly every meta of every tcg - of decks that "want to do one specific thing to win". Pokemon is particularly bad about it because of no opportunity to interrupt an opponent's turn, which necessarily limits the value of reactive and disruptive plays.

Another day of people seething

>>59151841
Good, I'm ripping up the copy of gardy I was unfortunate to pull when SV base set came out.

Gardevoir, Charizard, and Gholdengo have finally rotated out, can we please stop seething about them already?

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Explain to me why people run Pult so much despite its abysmal win %?

>>59152425
Retards bangwagoning onto the bdif skew the winrate.

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>>59152425
Why are you using old format data? It's just the bomb version that sucks now.

So does that MegaDiancie deck actually cuck dragapult hard? Tempted to build it but it seems too jank for my taste.

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>playing the billie eilish of pokemon decks and thinking you're talented

>>59149994
>It's only helpful if you have lurkers who just sit around and play pokemon all day.
>The only time I'm seeing pokemon people are during actual events/tournies.
Yes, exactly. You go to an LGS on the day they have the weekly tourneys of the TCG you want cards for. Otherwise you are left with MTG shit only most of the time, if that.
Theres little reason to bring your deck/bulk to a LGS on a random day, at a random time.
In my area the main LGSs have a Bo1 tourney Wed/Thu and Bo3 Thu/Fri (both at around 7PM), so I wouldnt ever try to find people on other days and on the morning for example.
Both stores have their group chats and theres one for my city with about 1k people.
People have work/family/school, inform yourself about the schedule of your local LGSs to not waste your time, you will only get frustraded otherwise.

Can't wait for the gardy spammers fade back to being nobodys again. fuck you chao!

no no they're really talented
like during tag team meta where the perma 0-3 drops now had the exact same chance of being world champ as anyone else

Why do some redditor quirkchungus here hate meta decks so much? My only guess is that they got their ass ravaged at their local store by bringing up sharpedo or something like that LOL

>>59152884
Are olives meta?

>>59152884
There are people like that no matter what game you play. They think their enjoyment of the game matters than anyone else's. They also think being creative and original is the most important quality to have in a competitive game and that it makes them better than you.

>>59153206
>>59152884
People like this want to be able to win with whatever bullshit strikes them at the time, and seem to believe that the community should bend over backwards to facilitate that. They want you to play decks slightly worse than what they're playing, but won't try to play the "best" decks to get that because they're snowflakes or something.

Don't get me wrong, I love decks like united wings or other silly bullshit. But I don't take them to a tournament with top heavy prizing and expect to win games.

I take them to Sunday family tournaments and dunk on children.

>>59153187
why is he mewing

>>59153673
Why aren't you?

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>>59153679
I'm a failed clone

Literally what the fuck can I do against Alakazam using Shaymin as Arboliva or Mstarmie?

>>59154069
It's a prize race.
Alakazam is the most schizo fucking deck imaginable. Guaranteed 200 damage per turn on a 1 prize Pokemon is fucking absurd. The deck takes zero intelligence to play and even if you judge/stamp them they will always get the exact 2-4 cards needed to recover.

>>59154069
play rocket's articuno

>>59149994
Whats your home LGS if I can ask? I'm in the area too and I go to Divine Gamez and Battlegrounds Framingham, but my main games aren't pokemon.

>>59154126
Why do you want to rape anon?

>>59154069
You rush froslass? Dude shaymin kills itself once you put froslass down, it's even faster if you already have your munki on board. As for arboliva guess you can only gust for it then hope they don't have stretcher on hand.

>>59154116
Isn't that for TR basic only?

>>59154160
yeah just bench solo articuno and the zam will play a couple turns to pretend they have an out but then eventually scoop when they're bkred

>>59154166
can't they load the dudunsparce or shaymin or whatever?

>>59153130
They are to me...

>>59154126
>3 people in the area in this thread.
No I'm not going to tell you which LGS is mine. I post my decks here all of the time and if you come to my LGS you know who I am.

>>59154139
Gotta rape someone

>>59154191
Fair enough. Sorry you didn't want my AIDS.

>>59154223
The thing is I know someone retarded enough to misspell common words like "Giovanni". It's spelled "Dragonite" btw.

Live player taking more than 1 minute for each Drakloak ability...

>>59154248
I am still waiting for my turn.
I end my turn in less than a minute while my opponent is taking like 6.

>>59154175
thats incredibly slow but yes they can. I think when you face a zam as arboliva and they play shaymin you have to hope they prize it or rely on meganium to be your attacker if you don't feel like insta scooping.

Fuck the pult player, he lost at the end, but they are insufferable in Live.
Not only he took ages to play, he conceded just before I took his last prize. If he wanted to give up, he should have done that like 3 turns ago.

>>59154307
It's better to make you feel the way that you are.

In a deck with 11 energies, what are the chances of not getting a single energy for 4 turns after using 3 Lillies?
Should I add more energies or is just RNG fucking with me?

>>59154347
probably low chances of not hitting at least 1. are you also discarding cards before playing lillie?

>>59154368
Of course I did. I used the 2 ultraballs I have in my deck just to mill a bit more.

>>59154347
Unlucky. I play 11 in olives and I find them rather easy even without bug catching set

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I love this fucking thing

>>59154421
If only the fossils weren't so shit.

Okay, this was hilarious and I feel bad for not taking the screenshot.
My Rocket Kangaskhan had 140 damage and it was my last pokémon. My opponent decied to use his Mega Kangaskhan to do the finishing rites and he got 11 heads.
Unnecessary overkill, even funnier because he got tails in the entire match.

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I hope they reprint this effect on something while we have Clefairy. I loved Suicune Ludicolo.

>>59154526
I hope they reprint this after Clefairy leaves.

none of my friends at league wished me a happy birthday today :)

>>59154568
sorry I forgot, happy birthday

>>59152884
one deck metas are not fun
blame whatever imaginary demographic you want
going against the same deck over and over that does the same thing every time is boring

>>59154568
They were being considerate.
Imagine wishing you a happy birthday when you are already an old man, they are celebrating for you getting one year closer to your death.

Fucking hell, why are Live streamers so toxic? For the love of god, they always rope their opponents for every single action. AzulGG is possibily the worst offender, dude would drop out every match to slow play if he played IRL like he plays Live.
Sometimes there is literally one and only one possible action to do next and they wait until the timer is almost done to do it.
>B-but content!
No, they farm short clips for their social media with as much action as possible in them, but thats like 1~2 clips out of a whole day playing and making everyone they play against suffer.
>They are thinking ahead!
No dude, you dont need two minutes to attach energy and play Lilie.

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I haven't played since BBWF dropped, are there any fun/decent single prize decks around again? I was thinking about rocket's porygon since its the closest to baby moon [which is dead now i think?]

>>59155060
Alakazam Dudunsparce

>>59155060
>He missed out on froslass munkidori
Shame

>>59141783
how do you make these

>>59155060
Rocket's Honchcrow with Porygon is pretty good, and fun. Paldean Tauros with Risky Ruins is a stupidly turbo deck, that's fun but potentially bricks

Bump

>>59155115
get destroyed by just one card>>59151627

>>59154431
It's perfectly valid to reject the
>Reddit
narrative of fossil Pokemon being """extinct for a reason""".

Also Flygonfags don't realize that their precious shitmon is actually decent in battle.

the lillie's clefairy and ogerpon deck takes zero effort to set up and play no wonder the japanese are crazy about this deck.

>>59155820
>Pick second
>Put Clefairy as active
>Use Crispin
>OHKO opponent's active
>????

I think there was a card with a girl holding a wrench. Would any of you guys happen to know which card that is?

Welcome "fuck Gardevoir in the ass" day.

>>59154613
You are the problem.

>>59154613
What deck is this?
In TCGL I go against Alakazam more than I go against any other deck because of the gay ass forced 50-50 algorithm. I don't even know anyone IRL that uses Alakazam.

>>59156153
Same, Arceus 1600 all I see are Zams and I'm thinking of adding a Xerosic to Arboliva

>>59156209
Yea I am using olives too and I am 1550-ish.

>>59156063
I couldn't find one, the closest I know of is either Welder or Worker, but neither of those are holding a tool per se. Sorry, anon.

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>>59156407
It was Welder. I thought she was holding a tool, and I see now that was my mistake. You did perfect anon. Thank you.

>>59155625
No one runs that card and Alakazam still wins despite its existence.

>>59156440
No worries, glad it was the right one.
Damn I love sweaty women.

I miss the JP card reveal news drip...

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myself trying to work out why pult onetricks need to burn the rope on every action and then remembering that they have to consult a google sheet to guide them through every action they'd take in the match
also that they're pedos

>>59156924
Fuck Alakazam

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>>59156573
> No one runs that card

>>59157051
I can't believe the Rocket deck runs a Rocket card. People shouldn't even bother playing Alakazam just in case they get paired into Mewtwo.

>>59157071
Exactly my point , how is a deck that has auto-losses to a certain matchup worth playing?

>>59157139
Because Zam hard counters shit like slop box.

>>59157139
>how is a deck that has auto-losses to a certain matchup worth playing?
Are you dumb? It has good matchups into a lot of other decks and it's still one of the best decks of the current format despite the Rocket deck existing. A deck having a bad matchup doesn't mean you can't play a deck.

>muh champion's league
I can't wait for the first post-rotation regional so everyone can stop referencing these shitty BO1 tournament results like they actually mean anything.

one day these retards will realize that there is no difference between bo1 and bo3

>>59157572
We need a sidedeck for this to make sense.
While we're at it, remove prize cards and change it to 'prize points/tokens', which you get at the same ocasion but instead draw a card for each one you get. TD;DR: dont set cards aside but wincon remains the same.

>>59154126
I'm operating out of Rhode Island.
So, I don't really have a "home" LGS. I stopped that practice desu. I just show up to events and play. Unfortunately your places are a bit too far knowing I can go to others that are like 1/4th the distance.

Idk would have been cool to meet some pokebros and just play a few games, but now is not the time with the way gas prices are around here.

>>59156440
Damn she cute. Up there with hex maniac.

>>59157139
Honestly, I'd just bunnelby/diggersby.
Most alakzam decks are already built around not allowing bench damage anyways. It's a little risky, but outside of psyduck/shaymin/fenza nothing on your bench should be holding that 30 damage long since dunsparce goes back into your deck anyways.
It's just finding room to throw in possibly 3/4 cards that are used in one match up and then rest of the time just hand fodder for hand size.

I might try to figure it out. I mean I could prob cut a kadabra and dunsparce, and possibly a rare candy for 3 slots to squeeze it in. It's not like dunsparce is hard to get with poffin/fan rotom - and kadabra is nice, but I feel like I'm rushing alakazams on my bench rather than slowly evolving them.

>>59158121
Honestly, I just played a match now with him, yeah he's lowkey useless to a small degree but I played against hop's trevanant and honestly diggersby was an option to knock out a trevnant stall with mist energy, cause I couldn't find my second enhanced hammer.
I didn't need him cause I just boss's ordered shit, but frankly, it was a misplay by me for not putting him out on my bench with an energy as back up.

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>>59157572
It does matter because prize cards are a garbage mechanic.
You can just get rng'd out of your Bo1 due to bad prizing, literally nothing you can do about that

>>59158208
And there's nothing you can do when someone decides to run coin flip memes and just hits on everything he does.
There's nothing you can do when you play fucking alakazam of all decks, deck out to 4 cards, and still can't draw your one wincon you need on a draw 3.
Welcome to card games, if it wasn't this, it would be something else. The point of the game is that it's RNG fundamentally and you can get fucked simply by luck. That's why BO1 format is shit because one game of shit luck doesn't determine your progress.

I kinda like the mega zygarde ex deck you get for free, even if it's just for the meme
but I feel like it can be improved. anyone messed with it at all?

Lads, should I bring Rocket's Spidops or Garchomp to locals today?

>>59158451
Have fun going x-3 with the bye as your pity win.

>>59158289
Can't go wrong with a Wally's Compassion, some Rocky Fighting Energy, and a Cornerstone Mask or two

>>59158472
Well yeah, but that doesn't tell me which deck to run

>pokepad
>won't let me pick my fan rotom
>now lose the game
Man, why can't this fucking international company that makes hand over fist make their program work properly?

>>59158500
Don't worry, it's only been a known bug for the last 4 years

>>59158472
>>59158451
Spidops is solid though?

>>59158208
>>59158261
You can diminish the luck factor by removing card prize mechanic

>>59158261
Coinflips are a LOT less oppressive than prize cards, even comparing them is laughable. Very few decks actually run coinflip cards let alone rely on them as their core strategy
Munkidori confusion isn't that impactful. There's more counterplay and if they're relying on that then they're in a bad spot anyway.
Pokemon catcher is probably the most powerful coinflip card we have, raging bolt would get attack benched mons while using sada. Still even that deck stopped running them eventually, and other decks don't bother either. They all prefer the consistency of boss orders instead. Coinflips just aren't worth building around

You can prize all 3 of your dragapult ex in a Bo1, then what to do you? Cope with trying to blow something up with dusknoir to get one? If they have the duck you've lost, without you being able to do any counterplay.
Bo1 will never work in this game until they rework or remove prize cards

>>59158613
>Bo1 will never work in this game until they rework or remove prize cards
japan says hi

>>59158635
It works the same there as it does here. You brick or get fucked by prizes, you lose.
"I'm sorry you got a leg cramp and couldn't run, I still won. gg lol." isn't a real match.

>>59158635
You try playing Bo3 in a locals where there's 5x the amount of people. JP does Bo3 for the tournaments that matter

>>59158451
I lean towards garchomp. both have zero on biard draw and rely on top decking but garchomp is decent into pult depending on the build and the deck's attackers don't need as many pieces to set up as spidops does.

>>59158939
On the other hand, is not hard to fill the bench in a Rocket deck thanks to Proton and the Spidops usually have 2 Mimikyu and 2 Articuno which helps a lot against Pult matches, although most Pult players knows when to use the Unfair Stamp completely destroying a Rocket deck.

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FAIRYORDER26

>>59159011
Execute Fairy Order 66

>>59159011
thanks anon

>>59159011
You know, I am going to build a Mega Clefable deck in Live now.

>>59159031 (Me)
Made one, tried it on Live and utterly lost 3 times in a row.
Looked up an example of the deck in Limitless after this pathetic defeat to improve my deck, it was almost the same deck, the difference was that the JP deck has Red Cards while I am using Judges for obvious reasons.
I don't feel good.

how does Zoro beat pult?
i feel like they draw so insanely well that they can set up a shaymin asap and I can't do the usual 90 90 that way
also, zekrom isn't enough damage to beat it, they can just hit me for 70 and do munki shenanigans

>>59159169
With 3 Boss Orders.
It's a bad matchup for Zoro (not as bad as against Rocket Spidops or Grasspon).
You just have to set faster than your opponent.

>>59159169
You have to be good at the deck to do it

Live decks are quite wild if you go under 1500 Elo, it looks like the testing deck zone.
I just lost in turn 1 because someone put a Meloetta on his deck.
I am seriously considering staying on low elo just to see what kind of wild things testers come up with.

>>59159169
hit them with outrage and use your own munkis.

2-1 at league night again. I am the king of 2nd place.

>>59159275
What'd you play? What was your loss?

>>59159282
>>59149247 (me)
Lost vs Starmie/Frosslass because I'm an idiot and thought something was prized during a Dawn that was in my hand.

>>59159157
>spend all the time building alakazam
>just learn red cards are incoming soon
Well fuck. There goes any fun I had for a minute.

>>59159362
Red Card doesn't cripple Zam as much as you think, just don't pop your Dudunsparces like a retard.

>>59159362
>Alakazam worse after red card
Honestly awesome. This deck is lame as fuck.

Why are Dragapult Dusknoir's matchups so bad now compared to the other versions? What changed? Looking at Limitless, it seems unplayable while the other two are thriving.

>>59159529
Is the remaining top deck from the previous set, a lot of shit players decided to play this without understanding how to use the deck without Iono and Counter Catcher.

Sleeving decks for this weekend. I want to play Dragapult and a deck that beats Dragapult. What's the best secondary?

>>59159700

also dragapult

>>59159700
>I want to play Dragapult
dragapult blaziken
>and a deck that beats Dragapult
dragapult blaziken with psyduck

>>59159362
It's still the 2nd best deck in JP after that >>59156924

>>59159788
Looks like Crustle is still playable? I thought it was dead.

>>59159225
way to justify being a perma low elo shitter
nah just messing with you
that's why casual play is fun, you never know wtf you end up against. ranked is just the same few decks for the most part

>>59160706
Between mist energy and psyduck you shut down dragapult/alakazam and wall the rest of the decks. In a Bo1 format like JP you can just get walled and lose

>>59157572
so true oomfie

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>>59158635
yes and then they abandoned bo1 after their "grand finals" back in unbroken bonds meta ended on the first turn
one day you're going to have grow up instead of blindly believing japan is this flawless shining star for everything ever made

>>59161207
oh nah I'm just saying they still use it
not that it's better or anything
just that they consider it usable (enough)

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Howd I do? Traded in some MTG

>>59161483
Why?
I should have took a picture of my card show haul, but it was a bunch of Hyper Rare energies and the nuance would probably be lost to both /tcg/ and /tcc/.

>>59158451
The one with the waifu.

>>59161491
Because ripping packs is fun. Im going to get screwed for sure but thats part of the gamble. I recently bought a base blastoise to almost master base set (need alakazam and nidoking) and everytime i look at it its like a stain on my childhood collection. Most of the cards im chasing are super expensive anyway.

>Game is not a coinflip simulator.
Iron Thorns won a world championship.

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Just learned you guys use these for the online game. I have a bunch more as long as i can use them to also show my collection : )

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>>59161703
No

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>>59161933
it didn't.

So after todays results with bunnelby and diggersby. It has legs, but honestly? It probbably could do some more cheesy things if you also pair it with other alakzam that uses psychic and the damage counter movement. So you could comfortably load up on your bench and let it all go on theirs as long as you don't cuck yourself with cage.
But I don't know, I think it might be the best way to deal with articuno and possibly do some other cheesy shit as a back up too.
I'm not sure what else I can do. I went 2-2 today because of the fact there were like 3 fucking people playing team rocket and I got paired with them.

I'm at the point where I'm just accepting that anything I play loses to Dragapult and picking something that does well into everything else. Pult has an answer for everything, doesn't feel like there's anything you can do.

>>59162504
Olives have a play into everything as well.

>>59162504
yeah meta is shit rn
pult's worst matchups are a 60-40 for it so no point playing anything else

>Meta goes to shit as soon as JP takes a 2 month break from releasing sets
To think that half of this years rotation will be pure dragapult meta
Releasing smaller sets for collectors was a mistake

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>jump back into PTCG after three months of inactivity
>don't know anything about the current meta post-rotation
>pick up Alakazam
>feels kinda ass to play, deck just doesn't click with me for some reason
>try M-Lucaro
>farming wins left and right
This nigga tuff.

>>59162202
140 for 1 energy is pretty busted. diggersby won me a ton of games during prerelease. I wouldn't be surprised to see it pop up as a tech since the 30 bench damage is a plus in a munkidori format

>niggersby
you could never get me to use such a retarded looking creature

>>59164579
>Diggersby Munkidori potentially does 4*30 + 140 (260) damage per turn.
It can rape pons but it's still short of 320 per turn needed to screw over pult.

>>59164606
290 with bangle. If you mix it with Risky Ruins you get 310. Really fucking sad.

Has anyone been playing harlequin over judge? I have and while I'm still not sure if it's better like I've seen people say, it doesn't feel worse than judge even when I flip tails. I've also noticed theres been times after getting stamped where my opponent has 4 or less cards in hand and playing judge there feels awful. I'm thinking of going all in on the clownussy until special red card is legal.

>>59165233
Tried it while testing Pult because I saw JP lists playing it, and it never felt good. Might be just because I got so used to playing Pult last format, but I kinda don't want to touch the deck again until Special Red Card is out. Current hand disruption tools just don't feel good enough.

>Get bored decided to look at cards from ninja spinner
So like. Beedrill ex, seems pretty funny, are people actually running it?

>>59166370
Yup, they draw with the Dudunsparces and have Olive as a bench sniper or lategame attacker once they don't have more Beedrills.
The deck is not that good though, you need 3 Beedrills to hit 330 after all.
Grass decks have an easier time to get to stage 2, but precisesly because of that the Beedrills are not that good because you can just field a Mega Venusaur with the same effort it takes you to have Mega Beedrill or just make an Olive deck without the Beedrills giving you 12 extra space to add more useful cards.

>9 game winning streak in arceus

yes I've won half the games because my opponents can't read their cards but it's boosting my confidence in garchomp

>>59166530
What just take olives, -6 for your Meganium line, -4 for Ogerpons, and add a 4-4-4 Beedrill line. The deck is better because you can run a very thin Grass energy line because you no longer need to run 'pon.
Is this better than Pon Olives? Probably not.

>>59166530
>you can just run a dogshit card instead of a good one with higher investment cost
lol

>>59166777
Venusaur have higher hp pool, they can move the energies around and abuse Wally to heal and sustain the Grasspon draw machine.
You need to have at least 3 Beedrills in play for them to work, it's almost as hard as having a Meganium and a Mega Venusaur.
Both decks aren't good, but Beedrill is worse.

>>59166907
Venusaur doesn't even make sense as it fills the same role as Pon except it has higher HP and is slower to set up.

>saw mega abomasnow
>the concept of milling to do damage and recycling energies seems fun
>realize I'd just get fucked on one prizers
Damn, almost seemed fun in concept. Like mega dragagle.

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>check city league results
>filter by winners from past 100 tournaments
>37 Dragapults

>take an early KO on Dragapult with Solrock
>he has Candy into Pult into Crispin INTO UNFAIR STAMP on a four-card hand
Fastest I've ever closed Live.

>>59166931
Venusaur tankiness is helpful since only fire pokémons or the higher hitters + Dusknoir can one shot it.
With Wally it becomes a pain to defeat it and gusting doesn't even help because it can just charge the new attacker (mostly Grasspons).
The problem is that the benefit is not worth it in most cases. Beedrill and Mega Venusaur are both unnecessary because Grasspon does a better job than them.

damn why is mega frosslass $10

>>59167213

because there are 39 (thirty nine) double rares in the set so it's basically impossible to pull

same goes for dragonite, meganium, and all the other mid exs

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>>59167213
The collector scene is insane. On Saturday I went to a card show and one of the vendors had an entire CASE of picrel. I mean the guy probably had 50 of them.

>>59167282
well that's a collector's card only retarded faggots care about that. I'm talking about the normal rarity that you would use to actually play the game

>>59167290
The market is driven by collectors, not players.

>>59167292
collectors should drive to the unemployment office

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Am I retarded or is this banned for no reason?

>>59166626
Trying Garchomp too because I saw a some people posting cup wins with it today. The deck seems like it's just better Lucario so far. I'm really impressed with it.

>>59167351
it was probably causing huge headaches in expanded

>>59167351
If something like this sees play, it would only be to do something unfair

>>59167351
Literally Yata for Pokemon in a game where consistency is the most important thing.

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>>59167351
It's part of a bigger picture. Strip your oppoenent's hand and stack their deck so they never draw out of it.

>>59167369
post a list? can't find that on limitless

>>59167500
nvm I see it

>>59167369
>The deck seems like it's just better Lucario so far.
How so? Haven't touched Chomp in months, but I've been M-Lucario for a while now.

I'm not sure why they gave team rocket's murkrow the torment attack but it's funny how many times it has saved me. The deceit attack can be useful too.

>>59166931
>it fills the same role as Pon
No it fucking doesn't you baboon. Pon's entire strength is being a draw engine that comes online on turn one and powers itself up in the process. It's a massive consistency boost and accelerator. If you think a stage 2 with no draw capability "fills the same niche" just because it moves energy around you don't understand what makes pon good. And conversely, Venusaur is a much tankier attacker, it hits hard without needing a meganium, and can take advantage of pon being a huge energy silo and get rid of the disadvantage of using its ability.

>>59161227
They have no option because of the size of the events, not because its good.

with how popular shaymin is getting I wonder if theres another attacker you can use in olives so you aren't relying on ogerpon the whole game. I would assume it would be mega meganium since you would really only need to play 1

>>59168231
Yeah it's called beedrill

>>59168254
There is no bench space for Beedrill.

>>59168301
You gotta take out the meganium and ogerpon but in return you get a better attacker instead of 4 liabilities on your bench

>>59168325
At this point people should just run Lillie's Clefairy Tur-
Fuck

>>59168325
>You gotta take out the meganium and ogerpon
You can take out the Meganium but you can't take out the Ogerpon. Consistent card draw is too important and will be even more important in a red card meta.

>>59168642
City League lists disagree with you because Ogerpon is a pretty large investment in Beedrill-Olives (~10 cards).

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>>59167290
>he doesn't max rarity his standard deck
Shiggity

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>>59168938
Here we fucking go again.

>>59168996
Iono's pointy teeth... Like sticking your dick in a bear trap.

>>59169015
You're assuming that Canari doesn't have eel teeth.

>>59169023
Lamprey teeth are legitimately terrifying though.

I'll stick with the closeted lesbian tradwife Erika, thanks.

>>59168938
>riffle shuffles your deck

What's your record for queuing into the same opponent over and over in ptcgl? I got up to 6.
7th game against a new opponent I got disconnected

>>59169153
Has literally never happened to me

>>59169194
I once woke up at 3 am and wanted to play, I was having a match with the same person until 4 am

>>59169051
You know, there's nothing I hate more than people who cut your deck and do shit like this, or anything more than a simple fucking cut.
These are the people who always break your fucking sleeves and have the most asenine demands during gameplay that you have to spoonfeed them.

"You have to search individually on each card or else I can't follow along." Fucking annoying nonces.

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>>59169575

>>59169575
>That guy who asks me to use an actual coin for coinflips instead of just a dice
>That guy who shuffles your deck when offering to cut it while having greasy fingers from eating slop
How can I call him out while not looking like a bitch?

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Holy crackers

>>59169748
>Mdiance in zam
??????

>>59169756
a VERY expensive way to deal with Rocket's Articuno

>>59169717
Reminder to always call out faggots like this. If you do not call a judge on them it only feeds their ego that they can get away with anything and no one will report them. Tell on all the smelly greasy pedantic cheaters no mater what.

>>59169756
I dont get it either. They never had the time to attach to it.

>>59169863
*matter
also I know none of this technically breaks the rules, but it goes along with good sportsmanship and the "get-along" guidelines. So sometimes just pointing out that they're being bitches is enough.

New

>>59169923
>>59169923

>>59169856
BUNNELBY SUPREMACY!!!
But also why bench it if they aren't playing against rocket.

>>59169929
They wouldn't have time to set up another zam since all their abras and a night stretcher were discarded, meaning losing that Zam lost them the game, so it didn't really matter what they did with diancie.