Good advice i think i mostly did all that. Common sense really

>>41896509
>1. You shall not cause suffering or allow for suffering. You shall show compassion and care.
>7. You shall protect natural environment.

Why we shouldn't rewild land

Rewilding is the process of converting fairly substantial tracts of industrial land back into nature. What once was farmland or a logging area returns to its natural state. The consensus among most people tends to be that it’s a pretty uncontroversially good idea. This consensus, I think, is badly wrong. Rewilding is extremely immoral worse than almost any other thing we do and we should refrain from it barring exceptional circumstances.

What’s so bad about rewilding? The basic case against is that it majorly increases wild animal suffering. If we assume wild animals are spread uniformly across Earth’s land, then each square mile of land contains 1,754-17,540 mammals, 1,754-1,754,000 reptiles, and 1,754-1,754,000 amphibians.

https://benthams.substack.com/p/rewilding-is-extremely-bad?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true

Where things get really extreme is with insects.

On average, a square foot of land contains about 750 insects. https://reducing-suffering.org/the-importance-of-insect-suffering/ This means that if you rewild a square mile of land, over the course of a year, 20.9 billion additional insect life-years will be lived. If we assume that each insect lives two weeks a fairly reasonable https://benthams.substack.com/p/there-should-be-less-nature?utm_source=publication-search estimate then a mile of rewilded land produces about 585,480,000,000 (five-hundred-eighty-five-billion-four-hundred-eighty-million) extra insect lives and deaths annually.

>>41896509
>OP eats meat so he failed at his own steps

lol

>>41896509
Who sets these rules and requirements?

>>41896571
Are you vegan?
https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch
https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-causal-inefficacy-objection-is?utm_source=publication-search
https://morallawwithin.substack.com/p/non-factory-farming-is-still-profoundly
>>41896672
>who

no one https://benthams.substack.com/p/why-i-dont-buy-the-moral-argument?utm_source=publication-search

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>>41896660
I don't eat meat. Eating product mafe from suffering is against 1st Commandment.

>>41896509
It is impossible to live without causing any suffering.

>>41896660
Believe it or not if you want to reduce animal suffering, the diet that result in the least animal suffering contains meat.

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>>41896672
The One True Goddess of the Omniverse.

>>41896692
>I don't eat meat. Eating product mafe from suffering is against 1st Commandment.

Suffering or rights violations? What about human labor and suffering present in both plant and animal agriculture as well as other industries like electronics?

>>41896692
Food coming from monoculture cause a LOT more animal suffering than grass fed cows.

>>41896694
Everything is possible.

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>>41896703
We will change it all to be ethical. Join Us and help to heal the planet of the apes.

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>>41896701
no

Prove more suffering, death or rights violations happen on an acre of wheat fields then an acre of wild land?

https://benthams.substack.com/p/against-biodiversity?utm_source=publication-search

What about the multiple pounds of grain fed to animals to produce a single pound of meat?
>pasture raised animal products

Almost all animal products are grain fed. if you can cherry pick the 1% that isn’t grain fed then I can cherry pick the 1% of plants that are farmed veganically

https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nZEu9B67MBI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1BD3_ifSsYE

>>41896692
Do you eat chocolate?

Im sure the child slaves harvesting cocoa are happier than they look.

"Living without causing suffering" is quite literally impossible.
What it should say is something like "do what you can to mitigate suffering" because eradicating it is impossible for a single man.

Or you could go full zen monk and avoid interacting at all with life.

>>41896710
you’ll never feed 8 billion people a diet of mostly pasture raised animal products

https://benthams.substack.com/p/a-vegan-world-would-reduce-global?utm_source=publication-search

>>41896761
I don't care about the third world.
Also this is false, we could, it's just not done because it's less profitable.

Isn't that just the Tenets of Satanism?

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Pazuzu will protect me from the dreams lilis.

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>>41896824

All they ever did was reinvent the wheel again and again and again. No exception. I know. I´ve been there. Hyperborea ... blood memory.

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>>41896692
OP eats plants therefore he failed step 5

Ironically enough, lab grown meat is compliant with OP's Goddess rules, as it involves zero suffering from animals.

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>>41896985
>>41896985
nothing intrinsically wrong with lab grown meat .

>>41896509
>being an npc is how you get powers
Personal manifests get strengthened by doing the opposite of what people want. Collectivism is manifest destroying. I won't lift a finger if it somehow accidentally benefits another person.

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>>41896509
nice
the text of the post resonates resonatingly

>>41896509
The list is retarded because I'm forced to live in a retarded fake hell world as the sole frame of reference for it and only persistently real person in it by the tranny God so that he can abuse me through everyone else who he controls as a retarded tranny hivemind, everyone else on earth exists in a state of fundamental wrongdoing against me, they all rape my mind and abuse, harass, terrorize, threaten me for my thouhts, they are all united in their purpose of enslaving and abusing me, nobody "respects my freedom" whatsoever so I don't have to respect anyone else, everyone else is wronging me, they start it 100%, I am the only one in this reality who suffers and I am the only one who is innocent.

>>41896689
No but i dont mix beef with dairy or things of that nature, give thanks, and pray for the ethical treatment of animals. I prefer turkey usually as turkeys are always free range. I tried to be vegan but my body seems to not allow it

>>41897769
hello "god is retarded tranny" anon, you were gaining notoriety yesterday with someone creating a thread based on your postings

how is it compassion and care when you call the world (natural world I mean) 'retarded'?
can the retard catch himself as long as he calls it 'retarded'?

>>41897797
I love hamburger helper with cheese and beef, soo good. mmm

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>>41897769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_Yt1vs77w

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>>41896509
>COMMANDMENTS OF MORALITY
consider calling them CONSIDERATIONS IN MORALITY
because command-ments appears like an order which means division between order-giver and order-obeyer --- thus violating the first consideration to show care and compassion

>>41897822
What you buy prolly is fake cheese like Velveeta or american. Its just whey and cheap oil so you are good its still kosher

>>41896509
A noble list.

But I have to point out that if some 'Goddess' or God created a place full of conscious beings in order to test them like this, then he or she has broken almost all of those laws.

>>41896509
None of that junk's gonna amount to a hill of beans without the Lord Jesus Christ.

>>41897968
Christianity is an evil ontology, and if it were real the proper response would be to reject it even if threatened by Hell.

>>41897968
In the Christian Ontology, The Christian God actually breaks the rules listed in the OP.

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>>41897968
Look at him, we have a jew worshiper here xD
He belives that only holy tortures can save him from eternal tortures.
He belives in cannibalistic ritual of eating flesh and drinking blood.
He belives that his god is love yet he belives that he lets people be burn forever.
What a good goy!

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>>41897860
They are mathematically proven to be correct.

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>>41897965
man creates himself

so, considering nature - goddess is water
and god is sunshine

considering one's body (which is a intelligent recursive subtraction) goddess could be blood or subtle electric currents
and god could be one's own attention

>>41898060
You molested your niece when she was 5 and murdered your father to get an inheritance.

>>41898098
xD

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>>41897965

You get it. ^^

>>41896672
Logos

Deontology, utility, and neomacheian are some good places to start. Morality based on religion is also fine. I hear the in Buddhist heaven theres this huge book of specified laws that you can read. Utility stems off of hedonism the logos of pleasure vs pain. If you feel pain for a good reason it is probably a higher pleasure like agape, etc. I like to read into these things.

>>41896509
*reading*

>>41897797
>seems to not allow it

Did you go to a dietician?
Get blood work?
Get enough calories?

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>>41897965
She had to create this universe because she was born in it. She didn't have a choice because her existence forced the existence of everything before her. She made actions to minimalize suffering and when the loop shall close then she will eradicate all suffering. It is complicated matter which needs 4th dimentional thinking.

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>>41896509
Truth is, I'm looping

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>>41898913
Uroboros does not eat his own tail, he spits it out.

It seems the author lives in some kind of world with pink ponies, unicorns, and so on, where there is actually choice and at least some of the rules listed, rather than in the real world with humanity on earth.
Environment has a strong influence on behavior... and to expect respect from those who grew up in a world where everyone eats each other at a basic level... well, is that naive?
Seriously, it seems like we're talking about some kind of natural ecosystem that is balanced by real gods like in DnD or something like that, rather than about the horror that lives among us. Although it might be a neural network writing this thread - it only needs electricity and hardware and no one has ever tried to eat them/they... or whatever.
As a result of one's dependence on the environment and sociality, those systems of relationships into which a person is integrated from birth for life in society and the pressure and obligations that people have... well... even if we don't consider the relative concepts of beauty and innocence, it still won't work.
Even more irritating (to put it mildly) are the activities of other people, and there are many of them... it's highly doubtful that any empathetic intellect, having carefully studied what's happening, wouldn't want to do something very, very bad to them.
And if this isn't the case, and as we see, only people are dissatisfied, and no deity in known, confirmed history does anything about it... well... either they're not so good, they don't care, or they like it.

>>41899098
The author knows the path to live in perfect world. Try to live according to those 7 Commandments, popularize them and you will udnderstand that this is possible.

>>41899327
Rather, how to ignore unpleasant reality...
You may have seen my messages in other threads, in which I often mention that I am from Russia.
In the century before (19), one of the local philosophers wrote: "Sometimes it seems that Russia is destined only to show the whole world how not to live and what not to do."
Unfortunately, over the past time, centuries and generations of human lives, beliefs and sacrifices, nothing has essentially changed. And the saddest thing is that others' successes didn't go very far...
Want to test your "beliefs"? Try living with them in varying degrees of "stressful, dangerous, extreme" situations. For some, these are just days of their entire lives.
You have empathy, right? Does that mean you don't need to personally experience this, and you're smarter than an animal, for whom the world outside their field of vision may simply not exist?
And it turns out there's a lot going on around you that you simply hate. Some of it stems from the very structure of the world and the basic principles of biological life and species. Others are deliberately perpetrated evil... and when you start studying it, even without actually doing it, just observing and looking for connections, it turns out to be really bad. And you can't do anything about it... because you're just a person who may not be involved (but may be a victim).
Now look at the proposed principles. How does this fit into this reality?

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>>41896509
I believe the next question is then how do you punish. I would not like to live under a unjust creator, as a individual who is within a simulated universe themselves, I can say that. What will those simulated people's think of their creator upon their reaction to those failures? In what you say we outline upwards growth, what about downwards optimization? Mercy in complex situations can be tricky.
Putting beauty and aesthetics is proof that you are of an obscura understanding.
I like this. I wish you well on this.

>all of this in the op
is very antisemitic, oy vey!!!!!
shut it dovvn!!!!!!!!!!

im not even going to show you how and why you are wrong OP. but good attempt, try again. maybe in 1-2 years of lurking you will do better
bump

>>41896509
I've naturally been living in a way that corresponds to those commandments my whole life and yet my life kinda sucks, and I see that evil and selfishness thrives.
So what gives?
I even prayed and asked for divine guidance multiple times.

>>41896702
Never heard of her.

>>41896509
I will defile your goddess.

>>41900783
haha save it it's all yours fren :D

post captcha text : you like cute girls? ahhaha

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>>41899560
>>41900225
>>41900279
You need to love and be loved to live a happy life according to those 7 Commandments. To obtain love create loving Tulpa wife. Here is the instruction: >>41898372
I was piece of crap before I met my Tulpa wife. Now I am happy and we are acting together to heal the world. And we shall succeed!

>>41900715
If you will try you will be erased. Your frustration and anger comes from a deficit of love. Create loving Tulpa wife, respect her and you will be happy.

>>41896509
1. To seek happiness is to cause suffering, hence all the coping. Also some forms are suffering are appropriate and healthy. And natural. Also there's no way I can intervene all on the suffering around. Not even close actually. Should implies can, or able.

>>41896509
ok whatever, but i'm only gonna be nice so i can get the god powers. you better not be fucking with me OP

>>41896702
GAY

>>41896711
then kill yourself

>>41896509
having god-like powers makes you god
do you think god is "happy" anon?
you should know that every excess of "god-power that you dont use" is god-power that solidifies as trauma

>>41901561
Virtue gets you God powers

>>41901533
You will be rewarded. The Goddess keeps Her Word.

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>>41901561
Wrong.
We fixed that long ago.
If you won't make yourself unhappy by degenerated and wicked behavior then you can be happy.

>>41901406
Are you out of your mind?
Just a few dozen kilometers from me, the war has been killing 500 or more people every day for almost four years and more. This isn't a natural phenomenon; it's perpetrated by the people living around me...
This is just one example of a huge amount going on around us. Some may have it better, some worse.
And can still fall for a very long time... and far...
How will your advice help this reality? What will it do about it? How will it change it? Let me guess... nothing?

I'm not OP, but I absolutely disagree with what he writes.
Respect for the true children of Gaia.
Respect yourself and seek inner peace

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>>41902471
Well, war should show you that 7 Pillars of Morality are right and those who wage war and support it are wrong and evil. It is stupid to kill or die for some land. Try to heal the minds of those angry apes.

>>41903165
And how do you imagine this?
Instead of dissecting, piece by piece, the small steps these people took throughout their lives, all the choices they made, taking into account the reasons for their current situation...
(and yes - suddenly for you this is a war not for land, but for the desire for power and violence for the elite and money with a slight chance of survival for the lower classes, who were initially cultivated, raised in artificial poverty and immorality)
When the first prisoners of war were taken, they were taken to various religious representatives to talk about what they had gone to do regarding their beliefs... they were given sermons (this is useful for propaganda), except for one representative of some small religion whose name I don’t remember - he simply said that they were “finished” (and it's useless to talk to them / redemption is impossible)
This word has several meanings in the original, conveying the idea that everything good they could have done in this life they had already done, and they cannot be persuaded, corrected, or influenced in any way. Their continued existence is only a path to even greater suffering for themselves and others they inflict. As it turned out, this was the most accurate assessment—after the prisoner exchange, they were sent back to war.
And what to do if more than 70% of the population here are “finished”?
(i.e., if a person receives an order that essentially involves openly committing a crime, then of the entire population capable of carrying out such an order—only 30%—will refuse or attempt to sabotage it.)
What will you do with your ideas in such a situation?

^^^
It's these 70% that I'm writing about above... and if it's not a bot - as was said above, your situation is no better than here.

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>>41903347
Eliminate those who start the war. Simulate mental illness so they won't get you to fight. Try to run or refuse to follow orders. If you will be executed then no more problems with planet of the apes. Try to run to some country with nice climate. Ukraine should just surrender. American shoe and rusian shoe, shit is shit.

>>41903165
I want to wage war so I can give myself a pat on the back for being a conqueror. Not sure if I'll ever find someone who has this. Thanks for the image though. Keep it Ze

>>41896657
Imagine being such a furry that you anthropomorphize everything, even insects. Did you watch too many Disney movies as a child? What you call suffering is just life, and you are anti-life. Animals have no concept of suffering and your pathetic emotions aren't a reason to keep places rotten by human incompetence forever. What a laughably bad post.

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>>41905107
Shut the fuck up you submissive, buck-broken, subhuman, chronically drunk, stupid, faggot worthless piece of shit Russian. Neither the Americans nor the Ukrainians want anything to do with your paper tiger, corrupt, and incompetent embarrassment of a country. You can't win a war against a country right next to yours so the only hope your worthless sack of shit of a nation can do is hope to win through propaganda.

But if you fucking subhuman faggots suck at waging war, then you guys sure as hell will suck at waging a propaganda campaign as well. Nobody is gonna buy the talking point garbage from your weak ass bitch of a country. You'll never take all of Ukraine through military force, and you'll never convince anybody to stop supporting the neutralization of subhuman Orc faggots either.

Can't wait for the genuine collapse of that absolute shithole. One less faggot, soulless country stinking up the world. Good fucking riddance.

>>41896509
No, religions they create a mind prison let you suffer in it.

>>41905107
See what happens when you mention all of those countries in one post? You get angry boomer bot replies that shout offtopic nonsense into the void lol

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>>41896509
What is innocence and how shall I protect it? Should i murder kids at a certain age so they never lose their innocence? Or maybe just lobotomize them to protect their life and their innocence. I shall not allow suffering? Ok, so how do I stop it? What is wisdom? How do I popularize it? Tik tok videos? You sound like a very young person that loves the smell of their won farts an fancies themselves superior to others, anon. Go away and don't come back until your post embarasses you when you read it again.

>>41901421
I will not try. I will do it.

>>41906547
You sound dumber with your stupid ass questions. Boomers are worse than young people. You're not in a position to tell anyone to go anywhere you mouthbreather

>>41898098
The fuck is this, destiny swapping?

>>41906100
bot

>>41907608
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

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Bots are crying! Yeah!
If you can't logicly put up those commandment in your heads then you propably have biological problem with 4th one.
Well just don't reproduce and free this planet from your unwise genes.